Great fix. I have a donkey Kong 1 duel screen.. I brought boxed used tidy condition 2 years ago since my parents wouldn't get me one when I needed it 40 years ago.
I'm sure the lcds are laminated sheets of glass. I'd like to see you do the same again, but apply extra heat, to get the glue soft, then push some glue from places that are laminated good, then apply some pressure while it cools. It's just a theory. But might work.
So glad i found you, well actually thanx to Mymatevince who reccomended your channel. hoping this channel will give me my fixit fix now Vince is not doing as much fix it videos. Keep up the good work.
@@ebenolivier2762 IT is lot ofa what good idea w You're a 4 to Spel they are the best I can do for you and you can do it for me to get a new one for you and your family and I will be there in a few minutes to can come over and see if you can find it in the mail and same long as you comes with a to ask to Gboard 4clipboard, any text you copy will be saved4 here.n I'lql úUse the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the editing is icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.
@@zanyt13Sorry for past-blast, but I can confirm - I have the same model with mostly all working bits. There are front/back overlays on both screens. The one in the video is missing the back overlay on the top screen (some foliage, branches and fruit around the sides/top of the screen. and the front overlay on the bottom screen (red cables across the middle and branch along the bottom with red "machinery" left/right). Sadly I diddled with the top screen when I was a tweenager and now the top LCD doesn't work (probably connectivity issue).
I know this is nearly a 2 year old video but in this time I saw a trick on here where you can basically use an eraser or whatever but firm to the point you feel you're going to crack it, and rub it out towards the edge it does work. Here's a video from LCD bleed on a vintage watch, same panel just smaller -- ruclips.net/video/zxRBohepzwc/видео.html
Wooow! I forgot about this toy but your video braught back the memories! Such nostalgia. Odly, i remember the smell. A new plastic kind of smell. Anyway. Love your videos.
This handheld brings back memories, I had one when I was a kid, but I was more into tetris at the time. I remember there's one with a waitress game as well
Could you cut out and stick rubber pads behind the reflector so that it applies pressure in all the right places when the case is screwed back together?
Nice try with the hairdryer, its ashame the Mark's came back. There is still a lot of fun left in this device even with the marks. Sprites definitely look better. Great upload 💯⭐.
thank you for the nice video! Any idea if I can replace the flat ribbon cable? If so, any idea where I can find a new one? thank you and greedings from Greece!
I love these game and watch, as well as bootleg lcd games, I had loads of them as a kid, the problem is the prices have gone through the roof, it's cheaper to buy a game boy, ironically we had these as kids because they were a cheap alternative to a game boy
What I did with an LCD game that had screen bleed is I dismantled it, got a cotton bud, and rubbed hard on the glass so the bleed moved to the edge of the display. It too a while, but it worked, and the bleed has not returned. I see you did the same thing, it just needs a lot of work and patience to get rid of it all.
This is an old video, but I'm catching up while waiting for new videos. Your bottom screen is missing something. Junior shouldn't be floating in the air. Keep up the good work, Dave!
Right I've just found you and going through all your videos. Absolutely amazing and I love them. I think you are definitely onto something with screen bleed. Is it still holding up or has it reverted back?
Hi would like to ask..where can I find the silver foil...other than eBay at inflated prices? Would like to find a big piece to cut out and it's more price friendly... appreciate the help...does the silver foil have an actual name?
It's called a silver reflector. I believe you can also use metallic silver heat transfer vinyl, although I haven't tried it. It will definitely be a cheaper option 👍
My battery cap has the same discoloration, and i cant remember ever replacing it, pretty sure it is the original. I always assumed it was made from a different plastic and thus aged differently. Cause i dont remember it being like that as a kid. Also i had the same bleeding problem in a different device. The solution i came up with was to install a glued cusion on the backside to apply constant presure. Perhaps not the prettiest solution, but the result i got was okayish.
Aw what a sweet cat, imagine my own fun and games with 7 here trying to do intricate stuff and Jasper the kitten-young adult he is an alpha so can't be simply ignored proper in yer face or else sort of hooligan cat hehe Favourite game at moment with him is pointing finger and thumb guns at him and doing pew pew noises, he goes abs bananas running up and down the hall, swipes at my "guns" and a total looney hehe (he is also addicted to Mario games, abs loves watching Mario from my shoulder)
I have close to 200 of these G&W about 70 being nintendo and mini classics panorama widescreen etc, i'v also sold hundreds over the years, there's plenty out there, although I have quite a few pristine in the box with poly and paper instructions i don't want to let them go, i also have loads that i'm currently refurbishing...the problem is the greed of some folk have pushed these games to astronomical prices, ebay has almost singlehandedly rendered these gems out of the hands of genuine collectors and out of circulation, its almost impossible to get hold of the lesser named lcd G&W games because greedy folk are putting them up for thousands of pounds so these treasures fail to circulate...i'm currently emulating these to keep the memories preserved
I never knew they sold for so much. I still have mine from childhood. It's in way better condition. Nice stiff hinges no faded screen hardly any scratches on the outer case same battery cover. Are you saying I can get £80 for it? Hell. Pay me now and it's yours.
Necroposting, I've seen this issue before, so just leaving what I heard and read about it. In advance: there is no fix. I might be wrong, so don't trust my comment alone. So, the way these things work, indistinguishable from magic :P, is that they are a sandwich of polarizing filters and transparent electrode substrates... plus you know, protective layers and in the case of these Game & Watch things, the layer with fixed art. But of course, it can't be only that. It needs a special chemical, which is the liquid crystal part of Liquid Crystal Display, that changes properties when electricity is applied. I have no clue about chemistry details, but basically this liquid forms a structure that becomes opaque the more electricity is passing through, using the polarizers, and that's how the image forms. Oversimplified explanation, but enough. Ok, back to the case. It seems that the cases in which old LCD panels develop black blotches and whatnot, majority of cases, is because this liquid crystal chemical degrades overtime. It becomes another sort of chemical compound which does not behave the same way the original formula does, so it just accumulates there. I've read some people saying this could be drained somehow, but you have more chances of damaging the entire panel. It's highly dependent on case. For instance, if your panel already delaminated a bit right between the layer the liquid is trapped, it might be work trying to drain it out. This is why you have people saying they pushed the blotches out... their panels were probably already a tiny bit delaminated on the borders. But this blotch issue can develop even if the panel hasn't delaminated, and it's just too easy to completely destroy these panels while trying to separate it's layers. Not to mention external contamination and whatnot. Those things are not made to work if they come apart, and it's likely they won't last long if they are already a bit delaminated, because then you have oxidation and other stuff to worry about overtime. Yeah... think that's more or less it. If anyone know this subject better, please do correct.
I still have this wonderful game with several screen problems but now, looking at what u did, it encourage me to try to fix it. The only thing Is that I don't know the name of the material to replace the original screen. Can u help me with that?
The material that I replaced was a Polariser (or polarizer). Have a look on eBay for polarising/polarizing film. You may be able to find one already cut to size, but if you're comfortable, just go for one off a mobile phone or similar and cut it (it will be much cheaper). Good luck, and thanks for watching! Steve.
I was thinking about something... What if someone come up with an kind of simple emulator (like libretto G&W) and put it to run on an e-ink display ? That could be very fun. We could even have a platform for new/modern G&W games with the same style as before, since e-ink has good resolution and slow refresh rates...
@@schmitty1944 Yes, this is true. The bottom screen is missing one of the overlays. The JR55 has two overlays laid on top of each other to create a subtle 3D/parallax effect. One of them is missing. i.imgur.com/aIGI3nP.png
I guess it depends what the problem is. Do you mean that the screens are physically not connected, or you are just not getting an image on either screen? Do you get sound?
Make a heated vacuum chamber and pop that thing in here. As far as what to use just a vacuum pump, a pot, and a thick sheet of plexiglass. Suck the air out of it. Then warm the pot
Hi, does it fix the lcd bleed? I saw that the bleed seems to be caused by a cloudy patch between the 2 glasses. Not sure if it is mold or dried up lcd liquid
Caaat cats can't ruin shots, they make them. A shot about anything filmed for the internet, if a cat walks in, the shot is about the cat, and the video probably does better because of it. They know what the internet wants Wait what was this video about? DK vs GaW? I wouldnt know anything about that matchup, I'm not very good with slow characters. I can tell you though that kirby always wins because his dad is the god of smash bros. Also because he has stupid survivability and can 1-shot people, so all you need to do is play like a coward and wait for everyone else to kill each other, then you definitely win! I may not be very good at combat, but I can certainly win a war! lol These are neat devices! Such a rudimentary gaming console. I like when things are complex enough to be sort of computery but simple enough to be fixable by a human with common bits. Cutting your own polarizing screens was quaint lol
Damn, I used to have one of these, it was a mario one though and tbh never liked the actual game, you just moved the guy up and down levels to catch packages on conveyor belts, had zero to do with mario. Sister had the Zelda one which was much better as it was more like an actual game.
Call me a “conspiracy theorist”, but my suspicious mind thinks, these guys have already dismantled the object in question already and half diagnosed the problem, before the camera is turned on 🤔 Is it just me..? It usually is 😂😂😂👍
I love when you say "some IPA", every time I think you are using some pale ale
The cat feels solid.
Beautiful kitty, Steve! Cats are my favourite furry pets. And I also like fixing things and building/rebuilding everything :)
Great fix. I have a donkey Kong 1 duel screen.. I brought boxed used tidy condition 2 years ago since my parents wouldn't get me one when I needed it 40 years ago.
At least you have it now!
Steve reads out listing description - "can see some dark patches at top of screen..."
Me: Yeah this video has one too, in the shape of a cat. 😂
lol, dark patch on the top of the screen was clearly the cat!
I'm sure the lcds are laminated sheets of glass. I'd like to see you do the same again, but apply extra heat, to get the glue soft, then push some glue from places that are laminated good, then apply some pressure while it cools. It's just a theory. But might work.
Cats ! When they want attention, they MAKE sure they get it. The amount of times we used to be reading and a cat would sit on the open pages.
Kinda sad he moved the cat, made the video so much better
So glad i found you, well actually thanx to Mymatevince who reccomended your channel. hoping this channel will give me my fixit fix now Vince is not doing as much fix it videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Graham! Much appreciated... hope you enjoy 😊
@@StezStixFix Also found you through Mymatevince! Love your vids!
@@StezStixFix Me too in the christmas special💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻
I like your work and soldering skills. Gave you a sub.
I've still got this game in the box from my childhood. I must dig it out now
Wow... What a classic. I haven't seen one of these since I was kid in the 80s. That game brings back so much memories.
Lower screen is missing a graphics overlay with lower and middle walkways. Wonder if you could print one onto some clear sheet?
Was just about to comment this.
I think both screens do miss overlays. I think both screens should have light green bushes/leaves as well!
@@ebenolivier2762 IT is lot ofa what good idea w You're a 4 to Spel they are the best I can do for you and you can do it for me to get a new one for you and your family and I will be there in a few minutes to can come over and see if you can find it in the mail and same long as you comes with a to ask to Gboard 4clipboard, any text you copy will be saved4 here.n I'lql úUse the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the editing is icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.Use the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.
@@zanyt13Sorry for past-blast, but I can confirm - I have the same model with mostly all working bits. There are front/back overlays on both screens. The one in the video is missing the back overlay on the top screen (some foliage, branches and fruit around the sides/top of the screen. and the front overlay on the bottom screen (red cables across the middle and branch along the bottom with red "machinery" left/right).
Sadly I diddled with the top screen when I was a tweenager and now the top LCD doesn't work (probably connectivity issue).
What happened to most of the painted art on the bottom screen? Maybe I missed that part in the video but most of the background is gone
I know this is nearly a 2 year old video but in this time I saw a trick on here where you can basically use an eraser or whatever but firm to the point you feel you're going to crack it, and rub it out towards the edge it does work. Here's a video from LCD bleed on a vintage watch, same panel just smaller -- ruclips.net/video/zxRBohepzwc/видео.html
Wooow! I forgot about this toy but your video braught back the memories! Such nostalgia. Odly, i remember the smell. A new plastic kind of smell. Anyway. Love your videos.
This handheld brings back memories, I had one when I was a kid, but I was more into tetris at the time.
I remember there's one with a waitress game as well
I owned this, back in the day. Was my pride and joy. I also had the Donkey Kong original in the orange case I believe. Great stuff :)
Just looking at the gameplay bit I want to play it. These were addictive.
Could you cut out and stick rubber pads behind the reflector so that it applies pressure in all the right places when the case is screwed back together?
Nice try with the hairdryer, its ashame the Mark's came back. There is still a lot of fun left in this device even with the marks. Sprites definitely look better. Great upload 💯⭐.
1st class video to watch thank you take care kind regards from me kenneth
if the spots are not in the play area...and since you are keeping it... can you trim out the polarizer in the blob areas and make it look better?
thank you for the nice video! Any idea if I can replace the flat ribbon cable? If so, any idea where I can find a new one? thank you and greedings from Greece!
I have the same one. You are missing the coloring on the bottom screen (across the middle). What happened? BTW love the channel!
Where did you find the music? It's awesome
My jewel's often go unadjusted as well.
I was gifted the the original donkey kong as a small child it was about 40 years ago
I love these game and watch, as well as bootleg lcd games, I had loads of them as a kid, the problem is the prices have gone through the roof, it's cheaper to buy a game boy, ironically we had these as kids because they were a cheap alternative to a game boy
What I did with an LCD game that had screen bleed is I dismantled it, got a cotton bud, and rubbed hard on the glass so the bleed moved to the edge of the display. It too a while, but it worked, and the bleed has not returned. I see you did the same thing, it just needs a lot of work and patience to get rid of it all.
+1 I did it that way, too
I'm going to give this a try...
Does soaking the lcd in warm water help?
This is an old video, but I'm catching up while waiting for new videos. Your bottom screen is missing something. Junior shouldn't be floating in the air. Keep up the good work, Dave!
Right I've just found you and going through all your videos. Absolutely amazing and I love them. I think you are definitely onto something with screen bleed. Is it still holding up or has it reverted back?
Thanks Alex. It's not got any worse but is still there. The game is playable but I can't stop looking at the little blobs! 😬
Can you reproduce this screen?
@@StezStixFix pretend they are coconuts
@@StezStixFix I'm told that sometimes massaging the screen will make it go away and no this is not a joke.
@@remylebeau9430 he gave that thing a longer massage than youd get ina 5 star spa
Love it
Love your vids man but you have literally got Carl Pilkingtons voice 😂
Hi would like to ask..where can I find the silver foil...other than eBay at inflated prices? Would like to find a big piece to cut out and it's more price friendly... appreciate the help...does the silver foil have an actual name?
It's called a silver reflector. I believe you can also use metallic silver heat transfer vinyl, although I haven't tried it. It will definitely be a cheaper option 👍
My battery cap has the same discoloration, and i cant remember ever replacing it, pretty sure it is the original. I always assumed it was made from a different plastic and thus aged differently. Cause i dont remember it being like that as a kid.
Also i had the same bleeding problem in a different device. The solution i came up with was to install a glued cusion on the backside to apply constant presure. Perhaps not the prettiest solution, but the result i got was okayish.
owned it in the 1980s, epic device
Using the flathead will damage those screws. You need a triwing screw to properly take them out
Aw what a sweet cat, imagine my own fun and games with 7 here trying to do intricate stuff and Jasper the kitten-young adult he is an alpha so can't be simply ignored proper in yer face or else sort of hooligan cat hehe Favourite game at moment with him is pointing finger and thumb guns at him and doing pew pew noises, he goes abs bananas running up and down the hall, swipes at my "guns" and a total looney hehe (he is also addicted to Mario games, abs loves watching Mario from my shoulder)
Cute cat
I have close to 200 of these G&W about 70 being nintendo and mini classics panorama widescreen etc, i'v also sold hundreds over the years, there's plenty out there, although I have quite a few pristine in the box with poly and paper instructions i don't want to let them go, i also have loads that i'm currently refurbishing...the problem is the greed of some folk have pushed these games to astronomical prices, ebay has almost singlehandedly rendered these gems out of the hands of genuine collectors and out of circulation, its almost impossible to get hold of the lesser named lcd G&W games because greedy folk are putting them up for thousands of pounds so these treasures fail to circulate...i'm currently emulating these to keep the memories preserved
Can you sell me some? I am a genuine collectot and would like to get Egg at a reasonable price. I have flagman and juggler..
Just wow i had one of those.
Like 40 years ago.
When i got i felt like the richest kid in the world.
I never knew they sold for so much. I still have mine from childhood. It's in way better condition. Nice stiff hinges no faded screen hardly any scratches on the outer case same battery cover.
Are you saying I can get £80 for it?
Hell. Pay me now and it's yours.
Can heat transfer vinyl be used as a reflector ?
I had one of these, my kids wanted to play it in the garden and then left it there in heavy rain :(, I have the bar top Donkey Kong 2 though still.
Necroposting, I've seen this issue before, so just leaving what I heard and read about it. In advance: there is no fix.
I might be wrong, so don't trust my comment alone.
So, the way these things work, indistinguishable from magic :P, is that they are a sandwich of polarizing filters and transparent electrode substrates... plus you know, protective layers and in the case of these Game & Watch things, the layer with fixed art.
But of course, it can't be only that. It needs a special chemical, which is the liquid crystal part of Liquid Crystal Display, that changes properties when electricity is applied. I have no clue about chemistry details, but basically this liquid forms a structure that becomes opaque the more electricity is passing through, using the polarizers, and that's how the image forms. Oversimplified explanation, but enough.
Ok, back to the case. It seems that the cases in which old LCD panels develop black blotches and whatnot, majority of cases, is because this liquid crystal chemical degrades overtime. It becomes another sort of chemical compound which does not behave the same way the original formula does, so it just accumulates there. I've read some people saying this could be drained somehow, but you have more chances of damaging the entire panel. It's highly dependent on case.
For instance, if your panel already delaminated a bit right between the layer the liquid is trapped, it might be work trying to drain it out. This is why you have people saying they pushed the blotches out... their panels were probably already a tiny bit delaminated on the borders.
But this blotch issue can develop even if the panel hasn't delaminated, and it's just too easy to completely destroy these panels while trying to separate it's layers. Not to mention external contamination and whatnot. Those things are not made to work if they come apart, and it's likely they won't last long if they are already a bit delaminated, because then you have oxidation and other stuff to worry about overtime.
Yeah... think that's more or less it. If anyone know this subject better, please do correct.
I still have this wonderful game with several screen problems but now, looking at what u did, it encourage me to try to fix it. The only thing Is that I don't know the name of the material to replace the original screen. Can u help me with that?
The material that I replaced was a Polariser (or polarizer). Have a look on eBay for polarising/polarizing film. You may be able to find one already cut to size, but if you're comfortable, just go for one off a mobile phone or similar and cut it (it will be much cheaper). Good luck, and thanks for watching! Steve.
@@StezStixFix I'm from argentina, so forget about receiving any eBay purchase. I guess I could obtain it from an old mobile phone. Thanks!
I need to dig mine out and see if I can fix it!
Aaaaahhh the fuzzy fur bum of Doom 🤣🤣🤣 got to love Cats, they don't care
Could it be that the metal reflector is causing the blotching. Cleaning that might help.
That is one of my favorite games that and one
Ok... the coin dropped on this video... I hear Karl Pilkington in your voice... that is why it is so sooothing to game and watch your videos. ;)
definitely show more of the cat.
what sort or make is the lcd microscope
Oh man, I really wish I still had mine.
Could the hinge be tightened at all?
good one cat, talk about saying daddy i want cuddles and fuss lol lol or your cat wanted to help you out lol
Too bad about the screen. Glad you could still improve it.
Are the loose hinges fixable?
I was thinking about something... What if someone come up with an kind of simple emulator (like libretto G&W) and put it to run on an e-ink display ? That could be very fun. We could even have a platform for new/modern G&W games with the same style as before, since e-ink has good resolution and slow refresh rates...
Those nintendo game and watch go for loads
The battery cover is off the Mario Bros. Game & Watch. You'd probably get your money back just selling that on eBay.
Your upper screen looks great but the lower one lacks of background. Do u know why?
I think its just the camera angle. It looks much better with my own eyes!
@@StezStixFix you are definitely missing something on the bottom screen. I think a plastic overlay with more coloured graphics on it.
@@schmitty1944 Yes, this is true. The bottom screen is missing one of the overlays. The JR55 has two overlays laid on top of each other to create a subtle 3D/parallax effect. One of them is missing.
i.imgur.com/aIGI3nP.png
@@vresi Indeed, DK Jr. is supposed to be balancing on power lines in the bottom screen.
god, I have that game! :)
I had that one
had this 1987 Dad and mum bought me it at the airport duty free
Jebus I got this Game & Watch along with 2 others apparently they're worth quite a bit of money these days
I have the same one , but both screens are disconnected , how I can fix it?
I guess it depends what the problem is. Do you mean that the screens are physically not connected, or you are just not getting an image on either screen? Do you get sound?
@@StezStixFix physically not connected
@@StezStixFix I do get sounds
@@darrencen6934 What happens when you try to reconnect the screens? Are the ribbon cables intact?
@@StezStixFix they're intact , the polarizers are long gone ( yellowed ) , but I still have images
Put it in an autoclave to draw out the air.
The bottom screen is missing some of the artwork. Monkeys and snapjaws can't fly like that.
Make a heated vacuum chamber and pop that thing in here. As far as what to use just a vacuum pump, a pot, and a thick sheet of plexiglass. Suck the air out of it. Then warm the pot
Hi, does it fix the lcd bleed? I saw that the bleed seems to be caused by a cloudy patch between the 2 glasses. Not sure if it is mold or dried up lcd liquid
@@suzukigsx1807 dunno, I was just putting an idea out that would be neat to try. I assumed it was just air gap that needed removed.
Find another broken unit with a dead board but good screen?
Damn. The bottom screen misses a drawing :c
What drawing?
@@EikottXD DK Jr. is floating in mid air while avoiding the enemies on the lower screen. Somehow the backdrop of the platform is missing.
@@EikottXD It's mission one of the overlays i.imgur.com/aIGI3nP.png
@@EikottXD DK Jr. is supposed to be balancing on power cables. This is missing, amongst other things.
I have the version one of this game, with one screen.
I will just say that it's not working ok... There is a lot of stuff missing off the bottom screen.
Never Remove the CAT there our little helpers when soldering
🤣 this is true!
cat bumps against hot soldering iron and dies
better make the cat be safe
Caaat
cats can't ruin shots, they make them. A shot about anything filmed for the internet, if a cat walks in, the shot is about the cat, and the video probably does better because of it. They know what the internet wants
Wait what was this video about? DK vs GaW? I wouldnt know anything about that matchup, I'm not very good with slow characters. I can tell you though that kirby always wins because his dad is the god of smash bros. Also because he has stupid survivability and can 1-shot people, so all you need to do is play like a coward and wait for everyone else to kill each other, then you definitely win! I may not be very good at combat, but I can certainly win a war! lol
These are neat devices! Such a rudimentary gaming console. I like when things are complex enough to be sort of computery but simple enough to be fixable by a human with common bits. Cutting your own polarizing screens was quaint lol
hi, if you need i have a spare top screen for thih g&w
if your interested, you wanna pay how much this ?
hello kitty ar 0:40 :-)
"How do I turn it off?" You don't!!
Is there much point
Nice try, pity you weren't successful. What's the antistatic tray you use? It looks very functional.
It’s easier if you buy one that works
Damn, I used to have one of these, it was a mario one though and tbh never liked the actual game, you just moved the guy up and down levels to catch packages on conveyor belts, had zero to do with mario. Sister had the Zelda one which was much better as it was more like an actual game.
If you press the time button while a game is playing I believe that should stop the game.
Cat Cam
Put your logo on the blue mat and start selling them.
70 or 80 pounds for that?
Move the cat into the bin and get a dog 👍🏻
its basically a ds wich is basic with only 1 game
YOU
CANNOT
REMOVE
THE
CAT
Call me a “conspiracy theorist”, but my suspicious mind thinks, these guys have already dismantled the object in question already and half diagnosed the problem, before the camera is turned on 🤔
Is it just me..?
It usually is 😂😂😂👍