How Long Does It Take To Get a Black Belt in BJJ?
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2019
- How Long Does It Take To Get a Black Belt in BJJ?
Professor Marcelo Bonança, from Gracie Barra, explains how long it takes to get a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
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Belt promotions should be based on ability, not attendance. Nobody wants the experience of going to another school and getting run over by lower belts.
Yes, ability is super important! Attendance seems only to be the best proxy but I agree that some adjustments need to be made.
Sorry to burst your bubble but no matter what you do you'll always be less than you aspire to. I'm not a black belt in BJJ but in another martial art. Once you get there you WILL be smashed by other lower belts no matter what. You will be older. Slower. Others will be stronger or have a stronger will to beat you (smash the black belt). It will only get worse with time.
Another thing to remember is, some female black belts or smaller men will always be smashed by semi-competent lower belts no matter their rank or experience.
And that's the whole trick to being a black belt. You don't become a monster, but your responsibilities change. You become a mentor, you become are servant, a listener. You realise how little you know. BJJ is a lifelong journey that starts at black belt, just as it does for other martial arts.
@@sochin7777 NO. To some extent it may happen if there is a large gap in age and size and they're relatively close in belt ranking, or the occasional lower belt submission on an upper belt, but theres no upper belts getting smashed by lower belts at my gym. A black belt will not get smashed by even a purple. This would indicate lax belt standards.
@@berningsandwiches2662 I think it's great that you gym hold such high standards, I really do.
We have a 4 stripe white belt, he's probably around 130kg and 2m tall. He's huge. He smashes everyone just by his pure size and strength and willpower. We have an amazing purple belt but she's small. She will beat me easily every time but she's older and she's no match for the white belt. It's pretty depressing but it's the reality and it plays out in many gyms across the world.
So, does she suck? No. Should we take away her belt and put her back to white belt? No. Is she wasting her time? No. Do we suck as a gym? Maybe in the eyes of some people. In the end, size, weight, height, athleticism, skill, talent, etc all matters in bjj. Should bjj be giving away black belts like some TMAs? Absolutely not!
I think it should be based on both. As well as the character of the person. Ability is important but it's not the only factor. Should we promote all D1 wrestlers to a high BJJ belt even though they have no fucking clue what BJJ even is? I have some very athletic students who use to wrestle in college and they can sometimes give my blue belts a hard time. But they wont get a belt until they can show blue belt level technique and actually show up to class regularly.
When I was a white belt I cared far too much about promotions. As a blue belt I cared less and less about promotions and now as a purple belt I don’t want to get promotions.
That's natural too. As long as you care about learning new skills and facing greater challenges it's all going well. Have fun!
@@gbsainteanne oh I love everything about the game. I never want to stop learning I just feel like there’s so much pressure, no pun intended, at purple belt. You constantly have a target on your back and when I hit a plateau it’s really frustrating because I’ve been training for 5 years now and I should know how to avoid that.
I am a very fast learner and a wrestler. I began wrestling when I was a freshman in high school until senior year, and went on to wrestle in college for a year. By the end of my 4th year of wrestling I was competing against top state and national wrestlers that have been wrestling since they were 4 years of age. Keep in mind I started wrestling at 16 years old. I recently joined a BJJ team, Gracies Jiu Jitsu and have an easy time competing with the Blue belts, and have submitted a Purple belt. So I believe it honestly should be about ability mixed with time, and not just time.
Agree 100%, only time is not enough!
Only ability matyers. But Barra does things differently and that's OK too.
@@curraja14 What do you mean by ability? Submissions count?
Your belt promotion system makes the most sense, with the ability to achieve black belt in 6 years. The 10 years to achieve black belt that a lot of schools adhere by is a little long if someone is attending regularly, competing, can demonstrate the techniques or for older practitioners that practice years maybe limited. I wish Jiu jitsu followed the judo framework, 5-7 years to black. Judo also views black as just the beginning of your journey since there are 9 other dan ranks to strive for. Bjj has those other degrees as well, but everyone just chases 1st degree, mainly because it takes so long to achieve and with that some people think 1st degree is mastery. In Japan, as it was explained to me by my instructor, the Kodokan sees 1st-3rd degree black belt as high school diploma, 4th-5th degree Bachelor's degree with 6th-8th Masters degree and 9-10th PHD. People like to argue Bjj is more technical than Judo,hence the long belt process. Both are technical, people in both arts have loads of techniques to still learn once they reach black belt. The two arts are literally brother and sister, just have different personalities, one prefering standing with some ground and the other prefering ground with some stand up. In the end tho, they are from the same family. The belt systems should be identical in the arts with people aiming for Masters and PHDs.
Oh man I wish someone would write a story about siblings names Judo and BJJ and how their fun adventures.
I appreciate the longer timeframe option. There is a great difference in skill between a 6 and 10 year practitioner and a black belt ought to be incredibly good at not just knowing techniques, but being able to apply them against other skilled fighters.
Gracie Barra really changed my life whenever I started it it was so much fun and I loved it so much I try not to miss a few days but other than that I go to her three days a week I take my training very serious at Gracie Barra because I really love jujitsu it’s a really fun sport I met so many new friends and they helped me thanks to Gracie Barra
My instructor won't even think about adding a stripe to your belt unless you place 1st in NAGA 3 times in a row.
That's a bit too harsh man!
lol naga
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That is a very nice dojo!
“A black belt is a white belt who never quit”
That's it!
And a black belt is a major step in the journey, but it’s not the last step.
@@jamosensei so true!
As long as I've trained Jiu-jitsu its been pretty standard students get their blue in 1.5-2 years and maybe black in 10-13 years. Maybe. Assuming no major injuries or other setbacks and training 2-3 times per week. The only way I could see someone getting their black belt in 6 years would be them being a phenom who has trained 6-7 days per week for 4-8 hours per day. Its happened but they were given belts based on fights they won or other personal reasons, not always skill or BJJ knowledge. Just because one can tap a black belt doesn't make one a black belt. #justsayin
Would be nice too see a video from beginners too blue belt and show stripes how often ??
I'm a black belt in jiu jitsu and see then merits of having a standardized system, but an attendance based system (especially as you get into higher belt ranks) is a bit weird in my opinion. I can see it working for kids and also for adults getting a blue belt, but to me purple belts should reflect a certain level of quality in their technique and in randori. So, the twice per week to get new belts seems a bit odd.
Agreed.
How long will it take me to reach the blue belt in general?.And does the belt ranking system differ from one country to another?.
One year at least if you have no prior experience in grappling. That's how works here. and it shouldn't differ depending on location.
About 1-3 years (depending on country, how many times/week you are training, how fast you learn new techniques, how good you are doing during sparing etc.). Average is close to 1,5-2 years.
That make me feel I am a very slow learner. I train 26 years, I am a third degree black belt (12 years of black belt) and I took 14 years to receive my black belt and now I see people being graded black belt in 6 years due to 2 days a week attendance. Madness!
With so much online content and improvement of the methodologies, it’s kinda of expected to see more and more people making it shorter. Anyway, 6 years is the minimum therefore not the average time.
@@gbsainteanne so you are trying to say that because there is so much online content a new student with attendance of twice a week deserve to grade black belt in 6 years. Maybe the other 3 to 4 days of training he learns jiu jitsu watching youtube. I also learned from Carlinhos' brother and I do not agree that professors nowadays have better methodology than the Gracie. By the way, I know the rules of CBJJ/IBJJF very well and despite they say minimum time, that allows any gym to sell plans of black belt in 6 years. So, the problem persists.
@@rafaelcaumo8887 I didn’t say deserve but I agree the problem persists. We work over here to minimize the subjective part and hold the student accountable for his/her development.
@@gbsainteanne I think you should re watch your video as you clearly said at 0:46 :"If you train twice a week or more you know how long will take to you achieve all belts".
What’s the difference between the kits, the black tracksuit, the blue and the white. I was going to go ahead and buy one of EBay but I need to get a beginners.
The difference is the color and the tradition leans more towards white and blue gis.
I’m youth, yellow, 4 stripes. I train 7-8 times a week, with an average class 1 hour. How long till orange?
Don't you know? You should. 8 times a week 😉
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How long does it take to defend myself
Excellent!!
A white belt is supposed to get darker over time with training to become black .!
If you want to know how long it takes to get a black belt, you won't make it. You should be wanting to learn how to pass, counter and submit.
Yeah skills are paramount! How long shouldn't be the focus but there is nothing wrong to have an idea of time.
I 100% AGREE. I have pretty much always trained 2/3 days a week, started at almost 41. When I was a white belt I just wanted my blue, got my blue at 2.5 years. Then at blue ALL I thought about was purple and almost quit MULTIPLE times because I was frustrated about promotions. Got my purple after 4 years at blue and I think that was a good amount of time. Blue for me was a humbling belt. It mentally prepared me for purple more than anything. I've had my purple for 2+ years and MIGHT get brown next year at which point I'll have 10 years in. I feel VERY comfortable with that time table.
@@opinionmaximus you passed the blue belt curse then ;)
@@gbsainteanne 🤏
WOW I MUST REALLY SUCK....BEEN THERE FOR 14 YEARS HAVEN'T GOT ONE YET. I GUESS THAT PUTS THE PEOPLE IN THE FEED CALLING THE SCHOOL A MCDOJO TO REST.
I don't believe anyone should attain a black belt .some people don't have the athleticism..I am a BJJ beginner ..good wrestler for 10 years a LONG TIME ago...if I never make black belt because of my age..I can accept it
In devoting two years to BJJ 12 hours a week..I wanna see how far I can go
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