I’ve got the WOA 18 SPR barrel on my precision build too! Love that thing! Farthest I’ve hit is 600yds on a 12 in gong. Glad to see you staying with WOA! Their shop is actually just across town from me!
WOA barrels have gone on sale for Black Friday multiple years. Bought a 18” SPR barrel in 2017 for $195. I have no doubt the predator barrel will be a performer just as well. Enjoy retirement eighteen incher! You have served us well.
This AR15 testing video are awesome. I just started shooting AR15 on f-class at 600 yrds max, using WOA standard service rifle barrel Thanks for the videos
Great Vid. The family member of yours that your giving that upper to is getting a great Barrel with plenty of life left in it, that’s awesome of you. I’m really gonna miss the 18” .223 vids, as I have the same WOA SPR Barrel and your Data was great! was fun comparing load work ups. The ACT trigger is definitely not a bench-rest trigger, but is better than a stock milspec. Make sure and run the included purple hammer spring, that will help. If you don’t have the purple hammer spring, the $10 JP precision enhanced reliability spring set improves the ACT greatly. Keep up the great vids.
Love your videos so keep up the great work. I do have to say I am sorry you have had problems with your PSA barrels. I have several and have had fantastic luck with them. I have had no problems with accuracy. Looking forward to your next video.
Johnny, love the vids. I recently upgraded my ar build with an 18" Faxon .223 Wylde gunner profile match barrel 1/8, in an effort to tighten my groups, but am still struggling with best groups right around 1 3/4" at 100yds. I have tried wide array of match grade factory ammo, Nosler and Lapua included, and recently started handloading with little improvement in group size (so far, 53gn Nosler Varmagedon over 27.5gn CFE being most promising). I have upgraded my optic to a Leupold Mark AR 6-18 and am shooting from a Caldwell stinger rest from a seated position. I am going nuts! When shooting, I have noticed that the rear of the rest does not keep the rear of the stock from shifting a bit. I am relatively new to handloading, with only a couple years under my belt. I don't believe that it is shooter error, as I have worked up very accurate handloads for my Tikka T3 .270 bolt gun, with best groups measuring sub .5 MOA. I am wondering if the inaccuracy is attributable to something other than the ammo that I've used, possibly the receiver/barrel extension fitment. I haven't seen any content related to that topic. I'll add that it is a decent fit, but I decided to shim it anyway with .002" ss stock to take up nearly all slop. Barrel is free floated. I have also considered shooting position or rear support as the culprit. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I sense an inventory reduction sale coming on the 18" SPR barrels and an manufacturing overtime shift hired on for the 20" predator barrels....... Great job as always
You mentioned that the velocity increased more than you suspected for only 2 inches of barrel. The other and just as impactful factor is increased burn duration from the longer gas system, before it hits that gas port.
Might I recommend that while this is a new barrel and you made a comment on wondering about velocity gains/losses over round count. You could also look into accuracy as well by choosing a load out of the ones you shot that groups well and has a small SD for velocity. Load up 100 rounds of this ammo and set it aside. Then every ~500 rounds or whatever round count take the rifle out and clean the bore. Then shoot two 5 round groups (the first for fowling) and record velocity and group size. I might also recommend doing this for all of your new barrels. This would be very interesting data for sure.
I just built an spr with a Criterrion 18” match Chrome lined barrel with rifle length gas and it’s a Tac driver!!! Sub-Moa all day with handloads and factory match Ammo! You should look into them for your next Barrel.
Glad to see a come back to 556/223. Seems like a small workup for each bullet type may be needed again though. Those 69/75/77 bullets should group better than that. 53gr smks is another great bullet used for service rifle.
We been shooting this same 20” barrel for over a year now. We have 4 of them betwixt all of us. They all like 25.5 8208xbr. 50vmax/zmax at 1.850-1.860 Ogive length Around 3300-3350 FPS in the barrels. Usually holds .75” or less at 100. Lot of times under .5”
I cerakote all mine different colors for different calibers. 6.5G is ODG, 22 Nosler is Stone Grey & 300BO pistol is white with the Imperial Insignia on it. Yes it is my Storm Trooper build. Still have two stripped lowers one spare SBA3 brace thinking of doing a 6.5G pistol build ODG of course. Haven't gotten into camo type stuff yet. Just started doing stencils came out good.
Great video! I shoot a 20” Ballistic Advantage Premium fluted barrel with 1:8 twist un suppressed (for at least another month) and have had awesome results shooting the Hornady 62 gr BTHP with 25.1 gr of Varget over the last 3 years. I have a TON of those bullets and would be happy to send you some for testing on your new .223 upper if you would like. Thanks for the great content!
Coincidental timing. I just bought an 18” upper assembly. I went with an upper assembly that costs less than a White Oaks Armament barrel. We’ll see if it can shoot. I think it may be a rifle length gas system as well. Looking forward to more .223 videos. Keep up the good work!
Great vid! I have a 24” bull barrel .936 at gas block and over inch under hand guard..... its my go to cause it shoots like a laser!!! You will love the 20”!!
So did you determine how White Oak times the gas port drilling position, so it does not plunge down through a bbl thread land and raise a burr or sharp corner that rips the jacket off the bullet every time it passes through? Also, can you get these bbls in chrome moly steel, like the original chrome plated military barrels? Chrome moly has better heat transfer coefficient than the stainless steel barrels. I am suspicious of SST barrels that string groups as they heat up, possibly because of assymetric heating. Also, I have read that SST bbls do not respond to cryogenic-treatment.
Thanks for the mark 262 videos save me a lot of time have you ever considered trying to make an inaccurate barrel shoot better by recrowning Blueprinting lapping and so forth In your opinion what makes a barrel inaccurate?
Lucky friend/associate/family member/ese/home boy who will be receiving this rifle. Clearly put together by a guy who values empirical knowledge. :) I'll take the speer loads out of a rare case of brand loyalty. They would do a number on small game.
I have a 20" Black Hole Weaponry 5.56 barrel. 1:8 twist. Couldn't get it to group anything other than Hornady 60gr VMAX and 68gr BTHP. But those two would group 1/2-1/3" at 100yds all day long over AA2200. Unlisted as a powder for 5.56, but I got 2750-2800fps with the 68gr and 2950-3000fps with the 60gr.
Next time you end up needing a new stock, you should look into the Luth-AR stocks. They’re a pretty good bit cheaper than the Magpul PRS stocks and they’re lighter too. I have their MBA-4 on my rifle and I love the huge flat bottom section and the fact that I can lock it down on my carbine buffer tube and it has no wobble at all.
This is my WOA 18" complete upper free floating varmint barrel fluted 1 in 7" twist attached to a Colt M-4 with a Geissele SSA-E trigger. Using reloaded Sierra 69 grain Match King bullets it shoots 3/8" five shot groups at 100 yards. I also have a Bushnell 4.5-18x40mm scope with Custom Turret label accurate out to 900 yards. The rings are 1" high QD aluminum. The group in the picture was with 65 grain Sierra Game kings which I use for deer..
Good timing. I’m using a LaRue 18” barrel right now and feel I’m at the barrels limit as far as accuracy. I can get MOA sometimes but I’m inconsistent. For example, I’ll shoot a 5 shot group, 4 will be dime size but one will be 1.5” out. I’m at my wits end. I’m looking at the White Oak SPR, or ?? I want to shoot MOA all day and anything better would be a bonus. I reload and have watched all your 223 videos.
You ever try the rock river 2 stage varmint trigger? Very nice trigger for 80$. Recently bought a 1007 tactical 2 stage trigger I guess is that’s the brand that’s what’s engraved on it but I’ve seen them advertised as fox trot mike and fm 2 stage triggers. For 66$ it isn’t bad but the 80$ rock river is worth the extra 20$
Ha, you went longer, I went shorter. Daniel Defense 12.5". It shoots 50g ballistic tips in 2.5" groups at 300 yards! Got a witness! Shoots the Speer 62g under moa also. Tried those after your video on them. Love the DD barrel.
Actually the ALG trigger is much better than a GI trigger. In fact I will even go so far as to say the ALG ACT trigger is what a milspec trigger should have been in the first place.
I run the ALG trigger with $10 light pull JP yellow springs and I get great accuracy. I have also used the same JP springs on a BCM NIB trigger with great results. There is creep , a wall, then over-travel with a short reset on both "mil-spec"triggers. They behave like a poor mans 2 stage trigger and the anomalies of creep, wall, over-travel, and reset are extremely consistent on both triggers, so the performance is great. I'm so satisfied with the JP spring mod performance, that I don't plan on running any further upgrades for my AR triggers. I'm told not to run them like this if it's a duty rifle or using military 556 ammo because it may misfire with harder primers. Though I have yet to have that happen. I generally use Remington BR primers and WSR, as well a CCI 400 @@rdsii64
Think I’ve heard you reference QL before. I’ve just picked up a copy and think there may be something to the OBT theory. I’m sure the node locations are different between the 18” & 20”. In fact I’m gonna crunch some of your result and see in any of your loads lined up with the 18” vs the 20”
Maybe try the 40 gr Barnes varminator I was very impressed with the accuracy with benchmark. Funny your using the 50 gr zmax too. Its it's my go to gopher load with 25 to 25.5 grains of benchmark. I think I'm getting around 3000
That 69 gr load with 8208 is my exact same load my kreiger barrel shoots its good. I use ar comp for the 75s too. 22.5 grains. crazy that we use so many of the same components
Awesome cant wait. 308? 6.5 creedmoor? I got a savage 308 bolt gun with a 26 inch shilen that shoots great and I want to put a 6.5 creed barrel on it. Maybe another shilen or a Krieger.
Good to see you with new content. I didn't know WOA barrels were under $300.00. I have a spare receiver set that isn't doing anything right now. (hint). As always I'm always looking forward to your content. ESPECIALLY YOUR 308 SEMI AUTO content. (another hint) Anyway. All of your content is top shelf. Good shooting to you sir.
Great video.Great idea to give it away too. On another note my friend Frankie wants to know Which is the best Reloading Press to get when buying 1st one
Wow. I totally missed that you got rid of the 18 spr barrel and got this 20 inch predator barrel. I was about to buy the 18 inch spr barrel and doing my research when I stumbled on this video. Are you happy with this barrel compared to the SPR? I would love to see some loads through this!
I don't know enough about in barrel gas dynamics, but would the mid vs. rifle gas system explain some of the extra speed seen? If you're bleeding the gas off a few inches sooner on the 18", could that drop in pressure make that much difference? One way to find out would be to get two barrels, same length, different gas lengths. Thanks for the video and information as always!
Has anyone tried using bulk Stainless Steel screws and adding some of them in with your pins, have you tried doing your grouping tests using a lead sled so the gun fires from the same spot every time.
So I’m wanting to buy one of these barrels. Do you know the difference between a predator profile and the spr version I’m 18”? (Weight wise). Also, do they come with a polished finish or a bead blasted finish? Thanks!
I could care less if companies *gift* items to RUclipsrs, if the quality holds up, then great! If not, we know you’ll call it what it is. Keep ‘em comin man! Still hoping for a cleaning mat! 🤟
My 18" barrel gets 1/2 inch groups with hand loads. Got the AR complete and nothing marked on the barrel that I can see. Why mess with success? 55g Hornady VMax with CFE 223 powder
your previous video on WOA SPR 18" have better grouping result, right out of the box or it's because it's reload ammo? Just wondering what's your opinion between your 18" SPR vs 20" Predator accuracy/grouping out of the box difference? I know you have not replied to one of my previous question. Lastly, has your 18" SPR grouping changed after 5000 rounds, by how much?
When are you going to review the 130 game changer in 6.5 Grendel? I have tried CFE , RAM shot , 8208 and can't get better than 1 moa. CFE did get 2354 .but can you get better velocity and accuracy?
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I put caliber specific dust covers on all my uppers. I specifically look for the ones that are laser engraved on both sides (open or closed).
That's good thinking.
I do not care if you're sponsored or not if a company sends you barrels you put out great video's keep it up.
75gr Hornady match is an awesome value and is sleeper that people should stock up on!
Just found that bullet messing around with heavy bullets for my AR pistol. With the right powder you and up with a "poor mans" mk262 and I love it!
“Great stuff, man!” Looking forward to seeing more videos from you, particularly with that new .223.
Thanks Johnny. Maybe someday you can use a 16" barrel which i would say 80% of shooters have. Keep up the great videos.
Awesome I been jonesing for a JRB vid
I’ve got the WOA 18 SPR barrel on my precision build too! Love that thing! Farthest I’ve hit is 600yds on a 12 in gong. Glad to see you staying with WOA! Their shop is actually just across town from me!
WOA barrels have gone on sale for Black Friday multiple years. Bought a 18” SPR barrel in 2017 for $195. I have no doubt the predator barrel will be a performer just as well. Enjoy retirement eighteen incher! You have served us well.
Every week that goes by without a JRB video I die a little on the inside. **rubs his firearms**
@Blake ^ Hes right you know 😉
@Blake, AND you'll grow hair on the hand doing the rubbing.
Mentioning for a friend. :-)
@Blake
Remember:
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Gun=fun
This AR15 testing video are awesome.
I just started shooting AR15 on f-class at 600 yrds max, using WOA standard service rifle barrel
Thanks for the videos
Great hand me down! I'm sure your friend is going to love it.
The 20 looks like it has some serious potential. Looking forward to the new series of 223 with the new barrel.
please come back to this series
"We're driving straight through that gun show loophole" LMFAO Hell yeah brother!!!
nice to see JRB vid, also love this format of shooting and discussing one load at a time
Thanks for putting the AR together for me :->.
@@KJV1611AV Yep, they have dropped all fees, even vanity calls.
Wel well well, the sun has come out and brought Jrb back to the Jrb's posse with a video... 😀😀😀😀😀
Great Vid. The family member of yours that your giving that upper to is getting a great Barrel with plenty of life left in it, that’s awesome of you.
I’m really gonna miss the 18” .223 vids, as I have the same WOA SPR Barrel and your Data was great! was fun comparing load work ups.
The ACT trigger is definitely not a bench-rest trigger, but is better than a stock milspec. Make sure and run the included purple hammer spring, that will help. If you don’t have the purple hammer spring, the $10 JP precision enhanced reliability spring set improves the ACT greatly.
Keep up the great vids.
Love your videos so keep up the great work. I do have to say I am sorry you have had problems with your PSA barrels. I have several and have had fantastic luck with them. I have had no problems with accuracy. Looking forward to your next video.
Dude,a thing of beauty Johnny, I want to upgrade to a 20 inch...dig the show......KEEP ON ROCKIN IT! Johnny's Reloading Bench.........................
"They" is definitely a him Haha love your channel Johnny thanks for all the useful info. It's helped my reloading game out tremendously
Johnny, love the vids. I recently upgraded my ar build with an 18" Faxon .223 Wylde gunner profile match barrel 1/8, in an effort to tighten my groups, but am still struggling with best groups right around 1 3/4" at 100yds. I have tried wide array of match grade factory ammo, Nosler and Lapua included, and recently started handloading with little improvement in group size (so far, 53gn Nosler Varmagedon over 27.5gn CFE being most promising). I have upgraded my optic to a Leupold Mark AR 6-18 and am shooting from a Caldwell stinger rest from a seated position. I am going nuts! When shooting, I have noticed that the rear of the rest does not keep the rear of the stock from shifting a bit. I am relatively new to handloading, with only a couple years under my belt. I don't believe that it is shooter error, as I have worked up very accurate handloads for my Tikka T3 .270 bolt gun, with best groups measuring sub .5 MOA. I am wondering if the inaccuracy is attributable to something other than the ammo that I've used, possibly the receiver/barrel extension fitment. I haven't seen any content related to that topic. I'll add that it is a decent fit, but I decided to shim it anyway with .002" ss stock to take up nearly all slop. Barrel is free floated. I have also considered shooting position or rear support as the culprit. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I sense an inventory reduction sale coming on the 18" SPR barrels and an manufacturing overtime shift hired on for the 20" predator barrels....... Great job as always
Love your vids. I only started summer 2018 and your videos have taught me a ton. Keep em coming :)
I always enjoy my target blowing around in the wind by 2-3"
You mentioned that the velocity increased more than you suspected for only 2 inches of barrel. The other and just as impactful factor is increased burn duration from the longer gas system, before it hits that gas port.
Don't discount differences in rifling, bore finish, diameter, and straightness too
Awesome vid. Love getting new toys. Look forward to more on the new 20".
Might I recommend that while this is a new barrel and you made a comment on wondering about velocity gains/losses over round count. You could also look into accuracy as well by choosing a load out of the ones you shot that groups well and has a small SD for velocity. Load up 100 rounds of this ammo and set it aside. Then every ~500 rounds or whatever round count take the rifle out and clean the bore. Then shoot two 5 round groups (the first for fowling) and record velocity and group size. I might also recommend doing this for all of your new barrels. This would be very interesting data for sure.
I just built an spr with a Criterrion 18” match Chrome lined barrel with rifle length gas and it’s a Tac driver!!! Sub-Moa all day with handloads and factory match Ammo! You should look into them for your next Barrel.
Cool stuff! Great information. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad to see a come back to 556/223. Seems like a small workup for each bullet type may be needed again though. Those 69/75/77 bullets should group better than that. 53gr smks is another great bullet used for service rifle.
We been shooting this same 20” barrel for over a year now. We have 4 of them betwixt all of us. They all like 25.5 8208xbr. 50vmax/zmax at 1.850-1.860 Ogive length Around 3300-3350 FPS in the barrels. Usually holds .75” or less at 100. Lot of times under .5”
I have a 18" W.O.A. Predator barrel , haven't put it on yet. Looking forward to it soon.
I cerakote all mine different colors for different calibers. 6.5G is ODG, 22 Nosler is Stone Grey & 300BO pistol is white with the Imperial Insignia on it. Yes it is my Storm Trooper build. Still have two stripped lowers one spare SBA3 brace thinking of doing a 6.5G pistol build ODG of course. Haven't gotten into camo type stuff yet. Just started doing stencils came out good.
We've missed you!
Great video! I shoot a 20” Ballistic Advantage Premium fluted barrel with 1:8 twist un suppressed (for at least another month) and have had awesome results shooting the Hornady 62 gr BTHP with 25.1 gr of Varget over the last 3 years. I have a TON of those bullets and would be happy to send you some for testing on your new .223 upper if you would like. Thanks for the great content!
Good to hear from you seems like it's been awhile. Good. Stuff. Thanks.
Totally psyched about new barrel and furure videos. I just picked up a WOA 20" varmit 1 in 7 twist, fluted to reduce weight... shoots amazing
Coincidental timing. I just bought an 18” upper assembly. I went with an upper assembly that costs less than a White Oaks Armament barrel. We’ll see if it can shoot. I think it may be a rifle length gas system as well. Looking forward to more .223 videos. Keep up the good work!
Great vid! I have a 24” bull barrel .936 at gas block and over inch under hand guard..... its my go to cause it shoots like a laser!!! You will love the 20”!!
Outstanding. Great vid & good data. Thanks Johnny.
So did you determine how White Oak times the gas port drilling position, so it does not plunge down through a bbl thread land and raise a burr or sharp corner that rips the jacket off the bullet every time it passes through? Also, can you get these bbls in chrome moly steel, like the original chrome plated military barrels? Chrome moly has better heat transfer coefficient than the stainless steel barrels. I am suspicious of SST barrels that string groups as they heat up, possibly because of assymetric heating. Also, I have read that SST bbls do not respond to cryogenic-treatment.
SSALT and PEPR scope mounts, huh?
Mind = blown
Nice catch!
Thanks for the mark 262 videos save me a lot of time have you ever considered trying to make an inaccurate barrel shoot better by recrowning Blueprinting lapping and so forth In your opinion what makes a barrel inaccurate?
Love the new barrel jrb. Can’t wait to see more of it.
Lucky friend/associate/family member/ese/home boy who will be receiving this rifle. Clearly put together by a guy who values empirical knowledge. :) I'll take the speer loads out of a rare case of brand loyalty. They would do a number on small game.
Your friend is a lucky mystery person.
First too!
I have a 20" Black Hole Weaponry 5.56 barrel. 1:8 twist. Couldn't get it to group anything other than Hornady 60gr VMAX and 68gr BTHP. But those two would group 1/2-1/3" at 100yds all day long over AA2200. Unlisted as a powder for 5.56, but I got 2750-2800fps with the 68gr and 2950-3000fps with the 60gr.
Next time you end up needing a new stock, you should look into the Luth-AR stocks. They’re a pretty good bit cheaper than the Magpul PRS stocks and they’re lighter too. I have their MBA-4 on my rifle and I love the huge flat bottom section and the fact that I can lock it down on my carbine buffer tube and it has no wobble at all.
White Oak make some of the best barrels! My 18" will shoot 1/4" groups all day long.
This is my WOA 18" complete upper free floating varmint barrel fluted 1 in 7" twist attached to a Colt M-4 with a Geissele SSA-E trigger. Using reloaded Sierra 69 grain Match King bullets it shoots 3/8" five shot groups at 100 yards. I also have a Bushnell 4.5-18x40mm scope with Custom Turret label accurate out to 900 yards. The rings are 1" high QD aluminum. The group in the picture was with 65 grain Sierra Game kings which I use for deer..
Good timing. I’m using a LaRue 18” barrel right now and feel I’m at the barrels limit as far as accuracy. I can get MOA sometimes but I’m inconsistent. For example, I’ll shoot a 5 shot group, 4 will be dime size but one will be 1.5” out. I’m at my wits end. I’m looking at the White Oak SPR, or ?? I want to shoot MOA all day and anything better would be a bonus. I reload and have watched all your 223 videos.
Thanks as always for an informative no bs video....
You ever try the rock river 2 stage varmint trigger? Very nice trigger for 80$. Recently bought a 1007 tactical 2 stage trigger I guess is that’s the brand that’s what’s engraved on it but I’ve seen them advertised as fox trot mike and fm 2 stage triggers. For 66$ it isn’t bad but the 80$ rock river is worth the extra 20$
Good looking barrel. White oak is on the brands i want to try list!
Really like the aero enhanced uppers and handguards.
Interested to see what direction you go with your 223 videos now! Exciting times!
Great video, really sweet barrel!
Ha, you went longer, I went shorter. Daniel Defense 12.5". It shoots 50g ballistic tips in 2.5" groups at 300 yards! Got a witness!
Shoots the Speer 62g under moa also. Tried those after your video on them.
Love the DD barrel.
What magnification?
I have a 20" whiteoak built upper and I run the 77gr bullets with 23.6gr ramshot tac, lc brass, cci primers
You should do a comparison between your labradar and you're other chronograph.
I love this channel.
ALG is owned by Geissele so that trigger set up isn’t as bad as you would think it’s probably just a nose hair better then mil Spec
Actually the ALG trigger is much better than a GI trigger. In fact I will even go so far as to say the ALG ACT trigger is what a milspec trigger should have been in the first place.
I run the ALG trigger with $10 light pull JP yellow springs and I get great accuracy. I have also used the same JP springs on a BCM NIB trigger with great results. There is creep , a wall, then over-travel with a short reset on both "mil-spec"triggers. They behave like a poor mans 2 stage trigger and the anomalies of creep, wall, over-travel, and reset are extremely consistent on both triggers, so the performance is great. I'm so satisfied with the JP spring mod performance, that I don't plan on running any further upgrades for my AR triggers. I'm told not to run them like this if it's a duty rifle or using military 556 ammo because it may misfire with harder primers. Though I have yet to have that happen. I generally use Remington BR primers and WSR, as well a CCI 400 @@rdsii64
10.00 trigger adjuster at Joe Bobs outfitters will make that trigger much lighter nicer and take the creep out !
Is the lucky person your grandpa? He did give you that sweet benchrest 6br....
Please do more with the 75 grain hornady BTHP!
I can send you a odin to test; you channel is the best
My Odin Works 22 Nosler barrel shoots great!
A good way to keep track of your uppers is to buy a dust cover door that has the caliber engraved on it. ;-)
You are the best there ever was. And ever will be.
Think I’ve heard you reference QL before. I’ve just picked up a copy and think there may be something to the OBT theory. I’m sure the node locations are different between the 18” & 20”. In fact I’m gonna crunch some of your result and see in any of your loads lined up with the 18” vs the 20”
Johnny, you should look into reviewing the BARNS 85gr that fits into a GI issue mag. I love them!!
i've been using the "wmd" nickel boron bcg and their barrels(1/8 twist) barrels and coudn't be happier
I know this is an old video but you should go with aero scope mount too. Cheaper and way lighter than the Burris and swfa
Your thoughts on suppressed AR's. Please share. Tell us about the suppressors. Thank you.
Nice upgrade.
Can't wait to watch this video. I run a 20 inch 223 Wilde hbar krieger with a 1x7.7 twist and it shoots everything amazing.
Maybe try the 40 gr Barnes varminator I was very impressed with the accuracy with benchmark. Funny your using the 50 gr zmax too. Its it's my go to gopher load with 25 to 25.5 grains of benchmark. I think I'm getting around 3000
That 69 gr load with 8208 is my exact same load my kreiger barrel shoots its good. I use ar comp for the 75s too. 22.5 grains. crazy that we use so many of the same components
I've got some Krieger videos coming soon. Just not in 223. :)
Awesome cant wait. 308? 6.5 creedmoor? I got a savage 308 bolt gun with a 26 inch shilen that shoots great and I want to put a 6.5 creed barrel on it. Maybe another shilen or a Krieger.
Im excited too for more ppc vids. And grendel. You've got all the bases covered
Johnny,
What barrel has shot best for you?
The Predator?
The SPR?1X7,1X8?
18" or 20"?
Good to see you with new content. I didn't know WOA barrels were under $300.00. I have a spare receiver set that isn't doing anything right now. (hint). As always I'm always looking forward to your content. ESPECIALLY YOUR 308 SEMI AUTO content. (another hint) Anyway. All of your content is top shelf. Good shooting to you sir.
I bought an 18" from brownells on sale and think it is a deal for what you get. Shoots very well for me and I have read most people agree.
Awesome vid as always...
Great video.Great idea to give it away too.
On another note my friend Frankie wants to know Which is the best Reloading Press to get when buying 1st one
thats a slow moving 69gr load. I use 23.8 8208 with 69gr SMKs in a 20" White Oak 1:7. They run well
Wow. I totally missed that you got rid of the 18 spr barrel and got this 20 inch predator barrel. I was about to buy the 18 inch spr barrel and doing my research when I stumbled on this video. Are you happy with this barrel compared to the SPR? I would love to see some loads through this!
I ever change my barrels, heavy profile barrels on a dmr or vermanit gun is the way to go.
I don't know enough about in barrel gas dynamics, but would the mid vs. rifle gas system explain some of the extra speed seen? If you're bleeding the gas off a few inches sooner on the 18", could that drop in pressure make that much difference? One way to find out would be to get two barrels, same length, different gas lengths. Thanks for the video and information as always!
good stuff.
WOW! Can I be your friend, associate, family also! I could sure use an awesome Aero upper WITH a nice Vortex scope! Heck it's even sighted in! lol
Has anyone tried using bulk Stainless Steel screws and adding some of them in with your pins, have you tried doing your grouping tests using a lead sled so the gun fires from the same spot every time.
Can I have the barrel??😁 awwwww.😢just saw the part where you crushed my dreams...lol
5 months and still not broken in
So I’m wanting to buy one of these barrels. Do you know the difference between a predator profile and the spr version I’m 18”? (Weight wise). Also, do they come with a polished finish or a bead blasted finish? Thanks!
I could care less if companies *gift* items to RUclipsrs, if the quality holds up, then great! If not, we know you’ll call it what it is. Keep ‘em comin man! Still hoping for a cleaning mat! 🤟
I have no idea about gaining or losing velocity with barrel use, but just so we're clear, you are crazy.
Where do you get those targets that you use in load development. The ones w/ red dot and lines and room to write on?
🙄 still waiting on that 458 Socom
My 18" barrel gets 1/2 inch groups with hand loads. Got the AR complete and nothing marked on the barrel that I can see. Why mess with success? 55g Hornady VMax with CFE 223 powder
your previous video on WOA SPR 18" have better grouping result, right out of the box or it's because it's reload ammo?
Just wondering what's your opinion between your 18" SPR vs 20" Predator accuracy/grouping out of the box difference? I know you have not replied to one of my previous question. Lastly, has your 18" SPR grouping changed after 5000 rounds, by how much?
If you want more than 2.260” COAL check out the C-Products 10 round magazine sold at Primary Arms. I load mine out to 2.295” and it feeds reliably
Is that the Aero M4E1 enhanced upper with the hand guard mount built into the upper? Curious about that design vs mounting to the barrel nut
This is the only video Ive seen with the 20" barrel. Did I miss something?
When are you going to review the 130 game changer in 6.5 Grendel? I have tried CFE , RAM shot , 8208 and can't get better than 1 moa. CFE did get 2354 .but can you get better velocity and accuracy?