1 Buffalo Heated Driveway Snow Melt Time Lapse, 2 Different Cameras - Which one is Better? - 1/22/23
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- This video is my first "night lapse" since installing 2 new cameras designed to perform better in low light conditions than the GoPro I've used for years. Watch the same Timelapse from both cameras in this video, and let me know which camera (1 or 2) you think is "better" in the comments and why. I will reveal which camera is which in a later video showing how I tested these 2 models as well as several others. You can purchase the Wyze Cam v3 here using my affiliate link if interested: amzn.to/3XXX6gF
00:00 - Intro
02:10 - Camera 1 Timelapse
05:08 - Camera 2 Timelapse
08:31 - Stats & Outro
By 6:00 PM on Sunday January 22nd, we had accumulated approx. 1" of snow and were still receiving a steady snowfall. I turned the heated driveway snowmelt system on around 6:00 PM. The snow continued off & on throughout the night.
The snow continued until about 11:00 pm, and then completely stopped and the slab was able to begin drying. By 3:00 AM, on Monday January 23rd the slab was completely dry, however we received another brief snowfall preventing shutdown. By 5:30 AM the snowfall was over and the system was shut down.
Hopefully you enjoy this video. Please leave your thoughts in the comments below, and remember to help me out by liking the video and subscribing if you’re not already by clicking here: / @deckerchristopherj
Below are links to several of the products, tools, video equipment and channels that I used to build the system. I receive a small commission from these links. You can find a more complete list at Http://www.cdecker.com
Products I used to build the system:
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Tools I used to build the system:
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What I use to record my videos and time lapse videos:
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If you’re new to my channel and want to start at the beginning, I recommend you visit my Heated Driveway / Snowmelt playlist which can be found here: • Heated Driveway / Snow...
The playlist will have all of my videos in the correct order form start to present, regardless of the date I uploaded them. It starts with how I designed the PEX and Snowmelt Loop Layout, shows the process of installing the actual heated concrete slab, demonstrates how I did the math to calculate the boiler and pump sizes, installation of all of the components, and ends with lots of time-lapse of the system melting snow. It also includes snowmelt system startup and shutdown videos, as well as walkthroughs of the mechanical room, continuous circulation design and electrical system.
Music Credit:
Sappheiros - Falling (ft. eSoreni)
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Sorry for the mistakes in the outro guys. It was definitely shut down on January 23rd, 2023, not 2022, and the cameras will be "revealed" in a future video. 😩 I do all of this RUclips stuff (editing, etc.) in the very little free time I have, after working a full-time job, and sometimes I don't catch things even after watching it several times before publishing. I will slow down and do a better final check in the future, I promise. Thanks!
Don't be hard on yourself Chris, you are doing fantastic!! Keep it up! Slow and steady wins.😊
Chris- are you using a thermostatic mixing valve with that boiler? I've mine all set up for driveway best but not connected yet. Wasn't sure if the mixing valve is necessary?
I enjoyed camera 1 more! much more crisp in my opinion. but they are both pretty good quality!
Thanks Alan!!
Cam 2 is Wyze, I got a bunch of em aha.
Both are very similar, 1 is a little better in quality but not as wide.
If it's just looking for image quality, you could go either way. If price means anything, then the wyze is a great value.
Thanks Whiffen!! 😉
I liked camera 2. I thought the video quality was better, sharper. The colors were also well defined. I opened up a second window to watch them both side by side and, to me, camera 2 is far superior.
Don't worry about the outro. Some of us, me and apparently you too, still use 2022 also. At least we recognize our mistakes and acknowledge them 🤣🤣
Thanks for a great video. Can't wait for the results!
Thanks Snoozie Q!! I also appreciate your comments on the outro. I normally like to edit on weekends when my mind is clear and fresh instead of after work when I'm mentally exhausted, but I have a bunch of content in the backlog for the channel and I wanted to get this one out tonight. Ugh. Oh well. Thanks for your understanding. The results video will be out soon, and I think EVERYONE is going to be surprised. 😉
The image of camera two looked sharper when comparing the first few seconds of footage from both.
Thanks Underdog!!
I like camera 1. Cam 2 was too affected by the exhaust "smoke" from your house vents and the lights on the street in the back. Cam 1 was more of a steady trucker through the whole thing and provided better visuals.
Thanks for your feedback Elizabeth!! 😊
Hey there I am absolutely looking forward to your time lapses this year! Hopefully we can see some beautiful christmas lights too!
Camera 1 is HikVision. Camera 2 is the cheapo. Maybe a different angle on the HikVision will give you a better FOV, or possibly replace it with a varifocal version. The HikVision optics are pretty good.
Both cameras are very good. I actually like the 1 camera.
Thanks William!!
I liked camera 1. It has a wider field-of-view. BOTH were really good in quality though.
Thanks David!!
Camera 1 was the best resolution and clarity, FYI it was clear enough to read the plates. Camera 2 has the better field of view and could work if I didn't need the resolution or the files sizes are too big to work with assuming the video files are smaller. But yeah, I'd go with camera 1 because of the resolution/clarity. Eagerly waiting for the reveal.
Thanks William!!
I like the second camera better wider angle of view
Thanks Cornelis!!
The middle one is clearly superior. Seriously, #1 was much clearer and better exposed.
😂 Thanks Kevin. As you’ll see in the test video coming shortly, I actually tested 4 of them, so your comment isn’t that far off! 😊. I doubt you would’ve found the other ones superior though. In fact, I’ve already sold / returned them! Thanks again!!
Camera 1! Crisper. Better color. Handled lighting differences better.
Thanks for your feedback!!
The green motion borders and the 'S' turning black in the osd gives them away. I definitely prefer camera 1's image, but I really like camera 2's angle. Overall I would be perfectly fine watching either camera from either angle, your videos are super entertaining and really it's all about the snow lol. Thanks for all the effort you put into the videos.
😉 Thanks for your feedback, Chase!! I also appreciate your compliments. Hopefully everyone will keep enjoying my content when the snow stops too 😊. Thanks again!
both camera are good , how much did cost you to do that drive way is it glycol running or water ? how do you heat the water , what system did you use , thanks
I think cam 2 is more bright and I like that it’s more pointed up but cam 1 seems clear
Thanks!!
I prefer cam #1. I like less contrast and sharper further away. I don't care which is pricey-er, it's what is liked. Ultimately, it's your decision, Chris.
Thanks for your thoughts Snow Cub! I’ve actually already decided, and I’ll explain why in a future video soon. 😉
cam 2
Thanks Dee!
Thanks Chris for sharing this .. Camera 1 is clearly a better image capture than Camera 2. ( hint, look at the details on the 2nd car, example the license plate ). Now it looks like you have a good amount of external light for this test, I suspect with lower light levels and a person moving on the driveway we would see even more differences. Most of the higher priced cameras have numerous tuning parameters that you can adjust.
Thanks Mx!!
Camera 2 for sure
Thanks Bryan!!
Thanks for great videos! I prefer camera 1. More sharp and less overexposed light from the street.
Thanks man, really appreciate it!!
Camera 1 seemed to have much better resolution (and/or maybe less compression) and better shadow detail. I think for the purposes of this channel, honestly either is acceptable. But 1 seemed noticeably better to me.
Great observations Sean!! Thanks!!
Hi Chris, I’m thinking using this method for my koi pond. How efficient do you think. And do you think is work ? Thanks in advance
Camera one. Much better. Higher definition
Thanks Colin!!
Although I like camera one, just like most, I certainly don’t see a $240 improvement between the two! Truth be told, camera two does a fantastic night capture as well. If camera two is the cheaper one, it would be my in my shopping cart!
Thanks Gil!!
Camera 1 is hikvision I'm pretty sure (timestamp gives it away) and better for me, but both were pretty good. I would be interested in what would be better in a storm when snow and ice is building up around the camera if that affects it at all. But it looks like the hikvisions angle should stop it from building up
Thanks Myles!! Hopefully we will get another decent storm this winter with enough blowing snow to test. Time will tell!!
Camera 1 looks better I think, clear and crisp
Thanks Mike!!
Both time lapses are good. I couldn't identify any significant differences.
Thanks Mark!!
it seems like Camera 1 is a new one. I’ve watched a lot of your videos but you know i really feel like #1 is the best. it’s more detailed looking especially when looking at the crisp edges of the van. you can tell clarity in the megapixels.
Thanks Dallas!!
Camera 1 was better. You could tell that the resolution was better in objects that were further away. Camera 2 seemed blown out by anything that exceeded its dynamic range.
Btw, I have an older Wyze Cam, and I really like it. But I think it was camera 2, which is the cheaper camera?
I'm a photographer, btw, and the difference to me was instant.
Thanks John!! I think you’re going to enjoy the testing and results video coming soon 😉.
Camera 2 in my opinion is better. I also am working on my snow melt videos on my driveway. Trying to get the right angle and camera.
Thanks!!
@@DeckerChristopherJ I have watched probably all your videos on your driveway. Gave me tons of ideas on when I designed and did a portion of my driveway this past fall. Good stuff man. Keep it up
Subscribed! Your setup looks like it works great!! Glad you found my content helpful as you designed and planned!
They are close, but camera 1 has slightly better clarity and resolution to me. Maybe not hundreds of dollars better, but better. Camera 2 also overexposes the street. I would suspect the more expensive camera will withstand the elements better than a cheap camera.
It will 😉. The more expensive one also has some hidden features built in that make it far superior. I’ll show everything in the comparison video! 👍
I thinm cameras 1 looks the best. Much sharper and better light definition. If i could vote for it twice i would. Been watching your videos for months now, inspired to do my own some day.❤
😊 Thanks, I appreciate you watching my videos!! if you have any questions along the way in your journey, please don’t hesitate to ask!!
The camera 1 was the expensive one and camera 2 was the reasonably priced one. I can tell from the angle. Both looked good to me. One advice is whichever one you choose just make sure it in the camera 2's position (lower) so that whole drive way is covered, might get a little snow from wind perhaps but should be better overall
Thanks for the suggestion pooh! So are you saying you like camera 2’s picture better because you can see more of the street? Either camera can be adjusted, so I can re-angle them. I tried to align them both with the bottom of the picture at the same “line” on the driveway. I’m learning a lot from the comments on this video. I always thought “who cares about the street, people want to see the driveway melting” but I’m learning people like to see the “big picture” including what’s going on in the street. Anyways, I’ll be releasing the testing video soon! Thanks for your comment!!
I liked camera 1. I could tell it was the least expensive camera because it was unable to cover all the way down the driveway but I felt the video was clearer and straighter view. Camera 2 had a curved vision that was annoying however it did have a longer view of the driveway and more of a panoramic view but the video didn't seem as clear or like a normal straight view. Anyways that's my comment. Thanks!
Thanks Charles!!
Looks like camera #2 is more expensive but not worth the investment. Think 1 can do the job once again love the video I was at the bills game and when we were losing I was wondering about your drive way lol
Thanks sheeny!! I think you're going to find the testing / results video very interesting! I also find it hilarious and somewhat humbling that you were thinking about my driveway from the game while it was snowing. 😂😂 We watched it of course (from home) and were just crushed. They never got into a rhythm. 🙁. I'm getting sick of saying / hearing "next year."
Love your videos. I'm designing my system right now. Do you use snow sensors or just manually activate the system?
Thanks Ryan!! Let me know if you have any questions!! I did install the Tekmar 091 Socket in the slab and ran a conduit back to the utility room so I can add the sensors if desired, but for right now I'm just turning it on/off manually. I can do it physically from the switch on the wall in the utility room, or remotely from my phone. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!!
@Chris Decker that's what I plan on doing. Any concern about heating the slab to quickly and cracking it?
I am not really concerned with heating it too quickly. I'm really only raising the surface temperature of the concrete to 40º-45ºF, and it does that slowly over 2-3 hours until up to temp. My system only puts out 70-80ºF glycol when first started, and eventually increases slowly to 100º. Once the return glycol coming back hits 80ºF, the heaters are turned off but the driveway still circulates until the return drops below 65ºF, at which point the heaters are fired again to add more heat. This way it's not a constant heating, it's off / on over a period of time so the slab can slowly adapt. In addition, I once read an article by Dan Foley labeled "The cold, hard truth about snowmelt systems." You'll find it if you google it. In that article he discusses how in all but commercial and industrial applications with huge boilers and pumps, it's pretty much impossible to thermally "shock" a slab. Such a huge mass of (in my case 1,600 square ft of 5" thick) concrete is in complete control, and there really is no way to raise the temperature of all of that concrete fast enough with a couple of tankless water heaters and 5/8" pex at the bottom. He is a professional (I am not), and I believe him! 😉. So far it's on its 4th winter and I do not notice any cracks that weren't there before turning it on for the first time. I guess time will tell! Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching! 😊
@Chris Decker thank you very much. We don't get as much snow here in Denver as you do but my driveway is sloped and faces north so it never melts. When it does melt it re-freezes at night. Your videos have been a great help for me to design my system. Mine will not be as complex as yours, but I'm confident it will work well to do what I need. Thanks again
I think that camera 1 is hands down way better. It is so much clearer and doesn't over-smooth the image allowing you to actually see details in the reflections, license plate, etc. It is exposed a little darker so it doesn't get super overexposed near the street like camera 2 does.
Thanks Erik!!
I use hikvision cameras so I knew right away which was which based on the time stamp text
😉 🤫 Thanks Ryan!!!
Camera 1 for me.
Thanks!! 👍
I like camera 2
It’s brighter
It seems to be a wider lens
(Nit picking) I like the date and time on the bottom. The one with it in the top corner distracted me.
Thanks Nicole!!
1st camera better resolution. 2nd better at looking bright but could be edited brighter.
Thanks ohane!!
I think either would do you fine. the 2nd camera has a slightly larger field of view, so we can see all the way to the end of the driveway, giving it a slight edge on #1. if there is a difference in how they perform in blowing snow (in at least 1 previous video you had to keep cleaning the lense when snow built up on it) then the one that would prevent/reduce snow build up and/or clear snow build faster would be a bigger factor for me. otherwise on my phone screen I don't see a big difference in quality.
Thanks Doug!!
MKBHD of Driveway cameras
😂 😂 Thanks for watching Mick!
Camera 1 better. I could see the aging on the concrete sealer and the details of the car headlight better.
Thanks Alexander!!
Chris, your heated driveway system control panel is a work of art. Pictures of it should be considered suitable for framing.
An Interesting comparison of your two cams. A $270 cam against a $30 WYZE cam being used for the purpose of providing a video of your driveway heating system. There were pluses and minuses (although not many) in both time lapse videos. Both cams are impressive but I couldn’t justify paying $240 more for the more expensive cam.
I have been using WYZE cams of varying models for several years those being used to monitor the street, front and back yards, a number of bird feeders, and the interior and exterior of two Bluebird houses, home interior when on vacation, etc, and they are impressive. The newly released V3 version has a very improved low light capability.
I’ve been wondering how much better a high priced cam would be over the WYZE cams but didn’t want to spend the money to purchase and install one to test it like you did. Thanks for settling that issue.
Thanks for your detailed response and opinion Fred!! I also appreciate your kind words!! I think you’re going to enjoy the test video 😉. Thanks again for taking time out of your day to watch and respond, I appreciate it!!
I have Wyze cams. I can tell which camera is which. Camera one definitely has better resolution and would be my choice if money was no option. With that said. The difference isn’t worth the price in my case, but for you that price might be justified since this more of a business purchase.
Thanks for your feedback!!
Camera 1 was obviousy better quality. Compare 3:10 to 6:08 and 4:49 to 8:00. Also, you can read the license plate on the Chrysler with cam 1 and not with cam 2. I watched this video in 4k.
Thanks Kyle!! You hit the nail on the head with been able to read the plate on Minivan. Hold that thought for the testing video coming soon 😉.
How long before you got an arduino controlling an air puffer to clear the lends automatically on a timer? then you'll round the corner into running tenserflow to detect snow on the lens and only puff when needed and make sure its clear.
Haha. Now that sounds like a fun project! Instead I ended up installing a different camera with a heated lens 😉. Not as fun, but still cool. If you want to check it out along with an FLIR thermal imaging video of it, you can find the video here: ruclips.net/video/g6KNzM8oh3w/видео.html Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!!
@@DeckerChristopherJ is the heat lens keeping up?
I prefer Camera 2. It looks brighter.
Thanks Jon! 😊
It was a coin flip for me. I would be interested to see what a thermal imaging camera would do. I would love to do a drive by and see what it looks like with my flir :)
I've done a walk through with an iPhone FLIR one, you can see it here: ruclips.net/video/-4gOLuY8pFE/видео.html A fixed one running for a few hours would be cool though. In the "test" video I use the FLIR to show how warm the lenses are. No more snow build-up blocking the view 😊.
@@DeckerChristopherJ I missed that vid… resolution look ok for a phone attachment camera 👍
Camera 1 is better! I just wished it had a smaller focal lenght (wider angle)
Thanks Eduardo!!
Don't know if it's your aiming or the camera, but can't see end of driveway with #1. As for quality, both are really good, but would have to give it to #1.
Thanks Glen!! The Field of View is different between the two (wider vs smaller angles) so I tried to aim them the same, but one of them definitely shows more! 😉
Camera 2 shows more content or details. for the cost of camera 1 is perfect
Thanks alex!
#2
Thanks Tanya!!
Camera 1 looks better. I can see the license plate clearer. It was not possible with cam 2.
😉 Thanks Nicolas!! I'll think you'll enjoy the testing video coming out soon! 😊
I personally liked camera 2. I would say camera 1 has a better quality to it as the license plate on the minivan is more legible; camera 2 has a better field of view, providing additional context to the videos. Is there a $200 dollar difference in quality? No.
Thanks for your feedback Derek!!
I don't know which is which, and to me, without running the videos side-by-side, though I did go back and forth a couple of times to see a specific time spot, I like video 1. Why? Because you could put the day of the week in the time stamp. Now if camera 2 can do that, but not as a default, ok, then it's a toss-up. And I appreciate you not putting in music while you are speaking. I wish the other YT hosts (Mentour Now, for example) would stop it. You added the music after you were done speaking, which is fine. Granted, not my choice of music for it, but the point is, you did not do it during your narration. I realize my analysis probably isn't really helpful, but, really, I didn't see any real differences. I'd go with the cheaper one if I had pick one. I await your announcement as to which is which.
Your analysis is actually extremely helpful Stephen!! Thanks for your feedback!!
I don't think the different cameras make that much difference. So I would probably chose the less expensive one, and spend the money saved on some other aspect of your video creation set-up. (Or put the money toward something else altogether, maybe a trip somewhere tropical.)
Thanks for your feedback Annie!!
Camera 2 has a more crisp picture
Camera 1 looked better to me, sharper clearer picture
Thanks mark!!
1 is hick - more expensive, better looking but not so good angle
Thanks!! 😉
#2 was of better quality
Thanks!!