Do you Need a Mentor to Be an Artist?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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Комментарии • 36

  • @BaddeBadger
    @BaddeBadger Месяц назад +8

    I straight up never thought about ever buying prints from Proko. That was an awesome point you made, branding seems to be 90% of the battle.

  • @Janos.Artzone
    @Janos.Artzone Месяц назад +3

    Interesting Conversation :) ! I leave a sub keep it up Kristian.

  • @REIQ
    @REIQ Месяц назад +7

    Good stuff!!!!

  • @Mvvooopaj
    @Mvvooopaj Месяц назад

    woah man, this channel is such a goldmine and i hope it continues on growing. This is like top tier stuff

  • @Fightookaishii
    @Fightookaishii Месяц назад

    I love listening to your podcast whilst I'm sketching at work. Really helps me relax and get into my flow. I appreciate your hard work! ❤

  • @YassineCherifi
    @YassineCherifi Месяц назад

    This was a fun and mind openning talk thank you and keep up the awesome work Kristien 🙏

  • @TristanLewis-cv8kp
    @TristanLewis-cv8kp Месяц назад +1

    I learned some dynamic sketching with Patrick via CGMA and it was a great class; it definitely helped me reinforce knowledge I'd had from other resources and told me where I was going wrong, which is I think the value of a mentorship as a whole, just reinforce what you've been learning and where your skills may be lacking a little.

  • @chinnerchilla
    @chinnerchilla Месяц назад +3

    I think mentors really help just for efficient learning, and it’s probably worth it even if you aren’t looking to make art into a full time job, I have a lot of trouble just absorbing the information on my own as a self taught artist and my goal isn’t to make money it’s to make better art and learn more about the craft! And having somebody there to ask why? And how? And what specific exercises should I do? Also all the critique is probably the biggest help in terms of improvement. at least for me that’s how i learn best! Also mentorship’s can be a lotttt cheaper, you can get an entire 2 month course with Peter Han for $790 or a 1 on 1 mentorship with him for $2000 and that is a lot of money but not really compared to how much art school is, a lot of masters like him offer much cheaper and more immersive experience’s for much less.

  • @0ia
    @0ia Месяц назад +2

    God I love patrick's voice!

  • @Tha_Pencil
    @Tha_Pencil Месяц назад +2

    I'm trying to learn as much as I can from RUclips tutorials and art books
    wish my luck on my art journey

  • @riccia888
    @riccia888 Месяц назад +7

    The reason most newbie artist don’t improve is because they buying those buffet courses like netflix no wonder they are not improving.

    • @user-pt7qv9ir8x
      @user-pt7qv9ir8x Месяц назад

      can u elaborate ? :) you mean they spent all they time searching for new courses and buying them, pilling them up, thinking they always need one more new course and never actually sticking to them one by one ?

    • @riccia888
      @riccia888 Месяц назад

      @@user-pt7qv9ir8x Yes, what I mean by buffet course is one size fits all, specially for beginners you should stay away from those. Yes its cheap paying $30 for subscription and get all the courses but are they really teaching you the truth? If you think about it fundamentals exist 500 years ago when Leonardo Da vinci was alive. its still the same today, nothing change. But why is when you subscribe to a monthy subscription and then get an email saying "spring sale 7 days left with a matching cute thumbnails"

    • @danielcalencar
      @danielcalencar Месяц назад +2

      I disagree. I think they don't improve mostly because of a lack of deliberate practice.

    • @riccia888
      @riccia888 Месяц назад

      When I said Buffet course, I mean one size fits all courses such as Schoolism, Learned Squared, etc. In science they call it Decision Paralysis.

    • @danielcalencar
      @danielcalencar Месяц назад +1

      @riccia888 then again, the problem is not with the courses necessarily, but with an underlying mental state of the artist. Deliberate practice is key 🔑

  • @shredmajor700
    @shredmajor700 Месяц назад

    Had no idea you were a blader, cool to here! Love the podcast Kristian, keep it going. Hope to skate with you sometime!

  • @justfrancesca8185
    @justfrancesca8185 Месяц назад

    I studied with Ron! Awesome teacher.

  • @betsi_jae
    @betsi_jae Месяц назад +1

    Love love love these videos! Just a quick question, is there a reason why you tend to interview male artists? Is it hard to find professional female artists to interview? I would love to see that more.

    • @KristianNeeTV
      @KristianNeeTV  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much! And good point! I'll try and do that more often

  • @Firen-vh3xc
    @Firen-vh3xc Месяц назад

    good shit

  • @franciscofeest6691
    @franciscofeest6691 Месяц назад +17

    I live in the third world and work a little as an artist on the side (small job). The type of works I see posted on artstation would put me on 1% earning bracket around here. I'm not succesful yet but everytime I watch an "art business" video it's all doom and gloom dude. Sorry to tell you but this video is mostly complaining about the career path of being an artist. Are there any positives about being an artist? You might want to make a video with a more positive take next time dude. Just my two cents.

    • @KristianNeeTV
      @KristianNeeTV  Месяц назад +6

      Heyo, sorry if it came off as pessimistic.
      There are tons of really great things, but also it is like any other job and can be stressful.
      The video is mostly about making art and finding a voice during the inevitable pressures of life. Having kids, getting sick, money issues. That sort of stuff
      An art career will feel like it sucks sometimes but ultimately it is worth doing

    • @franciscofeest6691
      @franciscofeest6691 Месяц назад +4

      @@KristianNeeTV Thanks for the quick response man. English is not my 1st language so my comment might have sounded rude. I have had a lot of problems getting new jobs so I get what you say. What do you think about the living cost differences in the 1st vs 3rd world and how that affects art job externalization? 2k usd a month is a good salary where I come from but I reckon it's an unlivable wage in the US. Thanks for the podcast and your insight! Great work too!

    • @KristianNeeTV
      @KristianNeeTV  Месяц назад +10

      @@franciscofeest6691 No problem and totally understand. Sorry for long response lol
      The compensation difference between third world countries and the US at times seems arbitrary to me. A lot of the higher end companies do outsource a lot of art to countries that do it much cheaper than in the US. I've heard some of my friends work at Riot say that the freelancers they hire over sees are much better technical artists than them, even though those artists are earning a fraction of their salary. In that Proko interview I did with Rembert Montald, he talked about paying $300 a month for an apartment in Croatia, where as an apartment in LA right now is $3000+ a month.
      If you're looking for a higher salary in my experience, the higher paying art jobs ($100k + a year) generally tend to value soft skills, and your ability to work on a macro scale of a project, or being able to make work that determines the overall style of a project. Sometimes they're just looking for a unicorn artist who can do something incredibly specific and it's just cheaper to pay them a U.S. salary vs trying to hire it out. A lot of the time, big companies are just looking for someone they can trust to fulfill an important role in finishing a project.
      I think as the world gets more connected on the internet, the pay gap will probably start closing more and more dramatically. A U.S. based artist is valuable because they can talk directly with the CEO and solve macro scale problems on a project.
      But as the skill of being a creative person becomes more common, the demand for the skill is going to go down and artist salaries will go down with it. It feels like we're in a transitionary period where all of the companies that make the most money right now are in the US, but at some point somewhere in a less developed country someone will make a thing that is more popular than something like League of Legends.
      On the more optimistic side, with the internet I think anyone can boost their money making by just putting themselves out there and finding an audience. I suspect the world is going to move from needing to work for big companies because they have the means of distribution, to having your own thing that supports you.

    • @franciscofeest6691
      @franciscofeest6691 Месяц назад +4

      @@KristianNeeTV Amazing response thanks!!!

  • @aberwood
    @aberwood Месяц назад +3

    Kristian I wanted to check out your course but I can't find any polished works you've done to see if the style resonates.
    Is it basically the Watts Atelier type of stuff?

    • @KristianNeeTV
      @KristianNeeTV  Месяц назад +2

      Hope this isn’t a cop out but my polished work right now is my podcast / teaching.
      That’s what I enjoy / spend my time doing. If that stuff resonates with you then whatever I have should resonate. If not then my finished images are essentially just studies.

    • @aberwood
      @aberwood Месяц назад +4

      @@KristianNeeTV Makes sense, it's just tough to sell yourself as either an art teacher / consultant when we can't see evidence of the work. Although your association with Proko and Peter Han gives me confidence.

    • @MFDOOOOM
      @MFDOOOOM Месяц назад +3

      ​@@aberwood or he could just be good at networking lol

  • @danielcalencar
    @danielcalencar Месяц назад +1

    You will always get my view and like. But I would prefer that you listen more to the guest rather than talk about yourself. Why not asking their history etc? It feels that the podcasts are repetitive and always crossing the same subjects