Graeme, your portraits have been so perceptive without being didactic, I think it’s remarkable for a man in your profession. I think it comes from a deep understanding of human nature, which you have not felt it necessary to constrain by official dogmas. At the same time, your knowledge of pathology brings an added dimension. Bravo!
@@professorgraemeyorston I’m also aware that you bring tremendous knowledge of the culture and zeitgeist of these creative people: that’s why these portraits are so good: you put them fully within their time and place.
I’m an arts graduate doing psych studies in preparation for a PhD on the mental illness and creativity(not sure of the exact direction yet)- my honours thesis was on the history of mental illness in art- and I absolutely love these videos- so inspiring! Thank you!
Glad to be of help - good luck with the PhD - don't miss my video on Richard Dadd - the interpretation of his crazy cat paintings is a perfect example of reading something into an artist's work that isn't there.
@ I have seen it and agree completely with your analysis. I’m both mentally ill and an artist myself, so I have a personal reason to be wary of people ready things into my work that aren’t there, or seeing developments in my art as a sign of a change in my mental health, when they are often actually unrelated. A lot of my art now is very vibrant and based on the nature I have around me here in Australia, but that is actually a reflection of me needing to find solace in my work, not that I am more well- it would be easy to look at my older darker works and think it was a sign I am getter better, and that’s far from the case. Art can be cathartic, for sure, but also it can be a place to find beauty when all inside your mind is dark and painful. It’s such a fascinating subject!
This topic fascinates me! This must make for a great research. I don't know you but i wish you well on your findings. I wish i could read it once you are finished. As an artist myself , i am very intrigued!
thank you. I appreciate the scope of your knowledge and your analysis of this painter. We are so ignorant of historical canvases and the mindset of those times, especially in artistic terms. This is a fascinating glimpse into the lives of European artists of the early 20th century. Thank you for sharing your expertise so freely. So appreciate it!
@@professorgraemeyorston It was spectacular. I wasn’t the only person in tears that day. His work, especially the earlier portraits are painfully beautiful.
As an artist myself, who uses my drawing ability to help navigate this world every day, I find your approach to understanding the artistic nature, VERY REFRESHING and ENLIGHTENING. THANK YOU for studying deep into their lives. ARTISTIC EXPRESSION in itself is a form of therapy. Vincent Van Gogh would have benefitted greatly from knowing you, as would have many other artists.
Thank you for introducing Aegon to those of us who had never heard of him. I would love to buy one of his watercolors but it seems unlikely there are many in the open market.
My old friend from Germany last name was Shiele. He was one of the smartest but most troubled and depraved ppl lve ever met. I had to stop hanging around with him after lending him money stupidly and never getting it back. He moved to Canada from Germany when he was 25
Thank you. I've never really been acquainted with this artist or his paintings, but I feel I've gotten a fuller grasp of what he was doing or trying do express.
Wow, what a mixed blessing of a life! So young, again, the waste of potential, yet he'd been recognised as an excellent artist during his lifetime, being recompensed well for his talent, unlike poor Van Gogh. Thanks for another marvellous intro to an artist I'd not previously known.🎨
Thank you for all the hard work and research you put into your episodes. I truly enjoy them. The choice of subject is both interesting and engaging. I've watched them all and I appreciate the effort. Wonderful!! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
I think your speculation about Egon possibly being on the spectrum is very well founded. I’m autistic and I was thinking the same thing - Schiele was quite possibly autistic. The difficulties with change and separation as a child, the deep introspection and artistic talent and many other little factors you mentioned are all congruent with autism. Even the way he had an odd stature and body language is there🌻🌻🌻
Yet another fascinating video. Thank you. I haven't seen many Schiele paintings but the ones I have seen always trigger the thought "il est mal dans sa peau" which literally translated means "he is not at ease in his skin". I think that fits in with several things you mention in this video: he did not live up to his parents' expectations so he was not who he was supposed to be, according to them. He couldn't help that. He had to be who he was and so that could have made him "mal dans sa peau". He had, imo, a fascination for humans as interesting shapes and variations. He was studying humans and that is how he represented who he saw, not what he saw. Anyone who has drawn people knows how complicated that is (what you see and what others see while looking at a person is often quite different) and this is something I think he "played" with. I think the autism theory would fit nicely into this because that would also explain his "mal dans sa peau" as he would have felt outside any group other than the art groups. Fellow artists are likely the only people who would be accepting of whoever he was.
Hi, what an interesting artist and your unbiased portrayal on this video. I am grandmother to a grandchild with a disability. Prader-Willi syndrome. Being involved in her schooling, I was exposed to many individuals on the autism spectrum. Maybe this artist was indeed autistic, but oh so talented. Thanks for the video. 😊
What a life! What an artist! So young! If I'd have to choose between paintings by Klimt and Schiele, I would certainly be hard put for an answer and take one by Otto Dix.
I used to work with autistic adults and about half way through your video, I said to myself he was autistic and when you said about this perhaps being the case I totally agree. Listening to the narrative of his childhood, he exhibits meany of the indicators found in autistic children, only being interested in sketching the trains not actually being interested in the train . Also his lacking in academic subjects but only being interested in drawing and painting certainly points to a savant presentation of autism. Very interesting, thank you
Thank you for a thoughtful presentation of Schiele's work and life. I always enjoys your videos. As a psychotherapist myself, I find art a fascinating entryway into people's worlds. I agree with your guess that he might have been on the autism spectrum. However, his expressions of torment about his sexual feelings, his possible sexual interest in his sister, his preoccupation with bodies, distrust of authority, interest in children, and his reported introverted, childlike demeanor might also suggest that he was sexually abused as a child. Perhaps the physical distortions of bodies in his work, especially self-portraits, are expressions of his sense that he was different from others, and/or that something was not quite right about himself. As a feminist, I do not see his work as misogynistic. Instead, I sense an element of anxiety, or even fear, in his drawings of adult women. This is something I have noticed in some of my patients who were abused as little boys.
I discovered Schiele's art when I was a teenager obsessed wirh art history. I found it disturbing but also intriguing & eye opening - who has depicted the human body and also human relationships (see "The Lovers") like this before? And that Klimt, whose art is in many ways very different supported him! Schiele was an exceptional talent.
I have been binging these videos for several weeks now, watching each several times over. The insight you bring to each person is remarkable. I would love to see more on people like Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, P.A.M. Dirac (both geniuses in their own right and both suspected of being firmly planted in the autism spectrum) and perhaps someone like Pol Pot.
I love this artist’s oeuvre…. I have never heard of his life story in such detail before. Thank you so for bringing it to life. How interesting that one single event can have an effect on so many lives. What if the Mother had not rejected the Father on the wedding night? But, such is life. What if Hitler had been accepted to the art school? What world would we be living in…..
Fascinating and the jury is still out! Maybe he was reacting against the stylised decorative treatment of Klimts paintings. I also thought the colouring and detail marks of his nudes look like they are dead. But I love the bold angular expressive passion in his work and the beautiful line work. Thankyou
Wow - I loved this video and it is certainly worth a second viewing. I love his art. But dead at 28 - agh - thank-you for your insight. Have a great day. 🙂
It's one thing having mental baggage, having powerful sexual urges.To be an unlikeable character....but having the ability to express your inner feelings through your artwork is another thing. This is why we remember him. As an artist, if I had half his ability I would feel very fulfilled. What a volume of work he produced, considering he died so young.
I must say, I'm not the biggest fan of the Expressionists. most of their works are unnaturally personal, complicated and weird in my opinion. one gets the impression that the artist intentionally made his or her work weird and abnormal just to get attention. anyway, thank you professor for another wonderful work of research. I can't name another channel as great as yours.
Thank you for this thoughtful and thought provoking insight into Schele. I really appreciate it. Is there any possibility you may be interested in looking into John Graham and his work on Systems and Dialectics..
i like the position he took himself .. i like the breaking of what mainly issaid to be art .. i like the perspective .. or the lack of perspective .. i like it how every sigle picture challenges my mind and my understanding .. i always like egon schiele
A very interesting portrait of Schiele! His work with it's twisted, disturbing forms remind me of the crucifixion paintings of Matthias Grünewald. Perhaps he was identifying himself with Christ? The way that he used garish, morgue -like colors to color his subjects and self portraits. His work is undoubtedly forceful and his talent was immense, but how hard it must have been for him as an unloved child who was not interested in academics or in following his father's footsteps. How hard he had to prove his worth to people who devalued his talent and passion!
Interesting that we share the same name! Happy Christmas to you Blessings and Happy Thoughts!!!😇🙏🕺⛲🌈🎉💥🎭💃The world crushes beauty and talent so the beast system can continue....
You can translate schielen as squint ( more like one eye in the chimney, the other in the pot). Etymologically the name Schiele derives from Schilohard, schil meaning quiet, peaceful or bright. Just incase you wanted to know😅😊. All the best for 2025.
Oh thank you for pronouncing my name properly ( it being Spanish). Brits and Americans tend to pronouce the 'i' like in 'side'. And then Elvira sounds sort of posh.
@professorgraemeyorston pronouncing names is a matter of taste I suppose. But your German pronunciation is the best I've heard till now beside Stephen Fry's.
one's reaction to art is just that. one's reaction. Schiele is not my cup of tea, but he managed to gather a loyal audience, and i can see why. a sidenote. while Vienna in the early 20th century was a place of expression, it was also a place of repression.
Well I think this man's artwork is alarming...what was going on inside his head ...I bet he could never switch it off...how his ladies slept near him..the mind boggles...😬😬
Like with lots of art, Schiele's style probably began by accident and experimentation and he liked what he had produced. Whether this is influenced by other experiences or not...probably, we are the sum of our interactions with the world, but it doesn't have to be symptomatic of a mental 'disorder' to not create a photographic image, surely? We are humans not robots.
I don't have a problem with the ideas behind psychoanalysis - but I have read dozens of mid-century psychoanalytic studies or artistic and literary figures and have generally found that they have added little to my understanding of a person.
You're certainly above my humble class. Where do you hear about these obscure people and why do you asume they're important. Or am I crazy to ask? (Not that the occasional psychiatrist doesn't lose his mind (I'm a certified witness to the contrary)). "All very Freudian" - the guy with his sister in the hotel. Are you the Nietzschean, saying what happened isn't important? Is this or not fraught with whatever it is psychiatrists ponder? Does it matter psychiatrically if a brother has sex with a sister? This is for the sociology of knowledge. (Edited because I forgot a parentheses)
Schiele is a major figure in 20th century art - we simply don't know what happened in that hotel room and I can't see the point in speculating - it won't bring us any closer to finding out.
Graeme, your portraits have been so perceptive without being didactic, I think it’s remarkable for a man in your profession. I think it comes from a deep understanding of human nature, which you have not felt it necessary to constrain by official dogmas. At the same time, your knowledge of pathology brings an added dimension. Bravo!
Thank you - I simply try to adopt the same approach I would use with a patient - listen first before jumping to conclusions.
☝🏻 People start to heal the moment they feel heard.
@@professorgraemeyorston I’m also aware that you bring tremendous knowledge of the culture and zeitgeist of these creative people: that’s why these portraits are so good: you put them fully within their time and place.
I'm glad you have an inquisitive mind. It means we will always have a wealth of interesting videos. Thank you!
I'm glad you find them interesting to watch - I find them interesting to make.
What a gift to express your thoughts with such ability, but what a time and place to live....
On a par, if not even more of a creative hothouse than Paris for that pre-WW1 era.
Having been to Vienna and Berlin many times, I have appreciated Schiele's work at first hand. Fascinating. A wonderful post and many thanks, as ever.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@professorgraemeyorston I always look forward to each new post.
Absolutely excellent channel. Always looking forward to the next video. Thank you Professor.
My pleasure - the next one will be "The First Vampyre".
I’m an arts graduate doing psych studies in preparation for a PhD on the mental illness and creativity(not sure of the exact direction yet)- my honours thesis was on the history of mental illness in art- and I absolutely love these videos- so inspiring! Thank you!
Glad to be of help - good luck with the PhD - don't miss my video on Richard Dadd - the interpretation of his crazy cat paintings is a perfect example of reading something into an artist's work that isn't there.
@ I have seen it and agree completely with your analysis. I’m both mentally ill and an artist myself, so I have a personal reason to be wary of people ready things into my work that aren’t there, or seeing developments in my art as a sign of a change in my mental health, when they are often actually unrelated. A lot of my art now is very vibrant and based on the nature I have around me here in Australia, but that is actually a reflection of me needing to find solace in my work, not that I am more well- it would be easy to look at my older darker works and think it was a sign I am getter better, and that’s far from the case. Art can be cathartic, for sure, but also it can be a place to find beauty when all inside your mind is dark and painful. It’s such a fascinating subject!
This topic fascinates me! This must make for a great research. I don't know you but i wish you well on your findings. I wish i could read it once you are finished. As an artist myself , i am very intrigued!
I know that, if not for you, I would have never known of or about Egon. It's a wonderful sidebar to my ongoing historical studies. Thank you!
Glad to have made the introduction to his art.
Thank you for your knowledgeable take on Egon Schiele plus for your good pronounciation of all thse long German words.
thank you. I appreciate the scope of your knowledge and your analysis of this painter. We are so ignorant of historical canvases and the mindset of those times, especially in artistic terms. This is a fascinating glimpse into the lives of European artists of the early 20th century. Thank you for sharing your expertise so freely. So appreciate it!
You are very welcome.
I was fortunate enough to see the Egon Schiele exhibition at MOMA in 1998, which I remember to this day.
Fantastic - I didn't really know his work until my recent visit to Vienna.
@@professorgraemeyorston It was spectacular. I wasn’t the only person in tears that day. His work, especially the earlier portraits are painfully beautiful.
As an artist myself, who uses my drawing ability to help navigate this world every day, I find your approach to understanding the artistic nature, VERY REFRESHING and ENLIGHTENING. THANK YOU for studying deep into their lives. ARTISTIC EXPRESSION in itself is a form of therapy. Vincent Van Gogh would have benefitted greatly from knowing you, as would have many other artists.
That's a lovely thought - thank you.
Never heard of this man,but I absolutely loved learning about him. Very good!👍
Fantastic - I love the idea that I've helped introduce an artist/writer to a new audience.
Thank you for introducing Aegon to those of us who had never heard of him. I would love to buy one of his watercolors but it seems unlikely there are many in the open market.
My old friend from Germany last name was Shiele. He was one of the smartest but most troubled and depraved ppl lve ever met.
I had to stop hanging around with him after lending him money stupidly and never getting it back.
He moved to Canada from Germany when he was 25
I guess the moral of the tale is be careful who you lend money to!
Thank you. I've never really been acquainted with this artist or his paintings, but I feel I've gotten a fuller grasp of what he was doing or trying do express.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow, what a mixed blessing of a life! So young, again, the waste of potential, yet he'd been recognised as an excellent artist during his lifetime, being recompensed well for his talent, unlike poor Van Gogh. Thanks for another marvellous intro to an artist I'd not previously known.🎨
Thanks for watching and I'm glad I've introduced you to someone new.
Fascinating. Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for all the hard work and research you put into your episodes. I truly enjoy them. The choice of subject is both interesting and engaging.
I've watched them all and I appreciate the effort. Wonderful!! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
I truly enjoyed this!!! Thank you
Thanks for watching.
Very interesting. Thank you!
I find his work intriguing…
I agree - it's even more intriguing up close in the museum.
This was great! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
So excited for this one. I have ADORED Schiele since I first discovered his work when I was 16! ❤
One of my favorite artists, thanks for this!
I think your speculation about Egon possibly being on the spectrum is very well founded. I’m autistic and I was thinking the same thing - Schiele was quite possibly autistic. The difficulties with change and separation as a child, the deep introspection and artistic talent and many other little factors you mentioned are all congruent with autism. Even the way he had an odd stature and body language is there🌻🌻🌻
I agree - I just couldn't find enough detail about his adult personality to be sure.
Yet another fascinating video. Thank you. I haven't seen many Schiele paintings but the ones I have seen always trigger the thought "il est mal dans sa peau" which literally translated means "he is not at ease in his skin". I think that fits in with several things you mention in this video: he did not live up to his parents' expectations so he was not who he was supposed to be, according to them. He couldn't help that. He had to be who he was and so that could have made him "mal dans sa peau". He had, imo, a fascination for humans as interesting shapes and variations. He was studying humans and that is how he represented who he saw, not what he saw. Anyone who has drawn people knows how complicated that is (what you see and what others see while looking at a person is often quite different) and this is something I think he "played" with. I think the autism theory would fit nicely into this because that would also explain his "mal dans sa peau" as he would have felt outside any group other than the art groups. Fellow artists are likely the only people who would be accepting of whoever he was.
Thanks for upload.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this! Greetings from Vienna, Austria.
Hi, what an interesting artist and your unbiased portrayal on this video. I am grandmother to a grandchild with a
disability. Prader-Willi syndrome. Being involved in her schooling, I was exposed to many individuals on the autism spectrum. Maybe this artist was indeed autistic, but oh so talented. Thanks for the video. 😊
Thanks for watching.
What a life! What an artist! So young!
If I'd have to choose between paintings by Klimt and Schiele, I would certainly be hard put for an answer and take one by Otto Dix.
All fantastic painters, I wouldn't want to be without any of them.
Very good. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Very good, I also like very much your Schoenberg like music that you use at times.
I couldn't think of anything more appropriate to illustrate Schiele's world - the Leopold Museum has a few of Schoenberg's own paintings as well.
I used to work with autistic adults and about half way through your video, I said to myself he was autistic and when you said about this perhaps being the case I totally agree. Listening to the narrative of his childhood, he exhibits meany of the indicators found in autistic children, only being interested in sketching the trains not actually being interested in the train . Also his lacking in academic subjects but only being interested in drawing and painting certainly points to a savant presentation of autism. Very interesting, thank you
Thank you for a thoughtful presentation of Schiele's work and life. I always enjoys your videos. As a psychotherapist myself, I find art a fascinating entryway into people's worlds. I agree with your guess that he might have been on the autism spectrum. However, his expressions of torment about his sexual feelings, his possible sexual interest in his sister, his preoccupation with bodies, distrust of authority, interest in children, and his reported introverted, childlike demeanor might also suggest that he was sexually abused as a child. Perhaps the physical distortions of bodies in his work, especially self-portraits, are expressions of his sense that he was different from others, and/or that something was not quite right about himself. As a feminist, I do not see his work as misogynistic. Instead, I sense an element of anxiety, or even fear, in his drawings of adult women. This is something I have noticed in some of my patients who were abused as little boys.
Interesting - yes that self-loathing would fit with his early self-portraits.
I discovered Schiele's art when I was a teenager obsessed wirh art history. I found it disturbing but also intriguing & eye opening - who has depicted the human body and also human relationships (see "The Lovers") like this before? And that Klimt, whose art is in many ways very different supported him! Schiele was an exceptional talent.
He was indeed.
I have been binging these videos for several weeks now, watching each several times over. The insight you bring to each person is remarkable. I would love to see more on people like Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, P.A.M. Dirac (both geniuses in their own right and both suspected of being firmly planted in the autism spectrum) and perhaps someone like Pol Pot.
This was an easy subscribe! WOW! thank you.
Well done, thank you.
Great episode.
I love this artist’s oeuvre…. I have never heard of his life story in such detail before. Thank you so for bringing it to life. How interesting that one single event can have an effect on so many lives. What if the Mother had not rejected the Father on the wedding night? But, such is life. What if Hitler had been accepted to the art school? What world would we be living in…..
Fascinating and the jury is still out! Maybe he was reacting against the stylised decorative treatment of Klimts paintings. I also thought the colouring and detail marks of his nudes look like they are dead. But I love the bold angular expressive passion in his work and the beautiful line work. Thankyou
Me too - and 100 years later some people still find his nudes too much.
Thanks!
Love Egon Schieles art work
Me too!
Wow - I loved this video and it is certainly worth a second viewing. I love his art. But dead at 28 - agh - thank-you for your insight.
Have a great day. 🙂
It's one thing having mental baggage, having powerful sexual urges.To be an unlikeable character....but having the ability to express your inner feelings through your artwork is another thing. This is why we remember him. As an artist, if I had half his ability I would feel very fulfilled. What a volume of work he produced, considering he died so young.
I must say, I'm not the biggest fan of the Expressionists. most of their works are unnaturally personal, complicated and weird in my opinion. one gets the impression that the artist intentionally made his or her work weird and abnormal just to get attention. anyway, thank you professor for another wonderful work of research. I can't name another channel as great as yours.
That's very kind, thank you.
he has been a favorite of mine for over 50 years. I love the more odd and unique artists; Ryder, Ensor, Gertrude Aberccrombie
He was certainly different to the pretty Jugendstil artists.
Thank you for this thoughtful and thought provoking insight into Schele. I really appreciate it.
Is there any possibility you may be interested in looking into John Graham and his work on Systems and Dialectics..
i like the position he took himself .. i like the breaking of what mainly issaid to be art .. i like the perspective .. or the lack of perspective .. i like it how every sigle picture challenges my mind and my understanding .. i always like egon schiele
A very interesting portrait of Schiele! His work with it's twisted, disturbing forms remind me of the crucifixion paintings of Matthias Grünewald. Perhaps he was identifying himself with Christ? The way that he used garish, morgue -like colors to color his subjects and self portraits. His work is undoubtedly forceful and his talent was immense, but how hard it must have been for him as an unloved child who was not interested in academics or in following his father's footsteps. How hard he had to prove his worth to people who devalued his talent and passion!
Yes, I don't think he had the happiest of childhoods.
Interesting that we share the same name! Happy Christmas to you Blessings and Happy Thoughts!!!😇🙏🕺⛲🌈🎉💥🎭💃The world crushes beauty and talent so the beast system can continue....
Cool name and the same to you!
The last name supposedly means something is wrong with your eyes in German
😂😂😂😂😂
You can translate schielen as squint ( more like one eye in the chimney, the other in the pot).
Etymologically the name Schiele derives from Schilohard, schil meaning quiet, peaceful or bright.
Just incase you wanted to know😅😊. All the best for 2025.
Thanks - I didn't know that.
@@professorgraemeyorston I didn't either till I looked it up 😂. I love to go on a tangent.
Shocked you don't have the views you deserve.
People are too busy watching Mr Beast!
Oh thank you for pronouncing my name properly ( it being Spanish).
Brits and Americans tend to pronouce the 'i' like in 'side'. And then Elvira sounds sort of posh.
I do my best with pronunciations - glad to have got one right!
@professorgraemeyorston pronouncing names is a matter of taste I suppose. But your German pronunciation is the best I've heard till now beside Stephen Fry's.
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Love your presentations. Schiele might've been the Michael Jackson of his time. There are some similarities.
one's reaction to art is just that.
one's reaction.
Schiele is not my cup of tea, but he managed to gather a loyal audience,
and i can see why.
a sidenote.
while Vienna in the early 20th century was a place of expression,
it was also a place of repression.
I think every major city at the beginning of the 19th century was a place of repression.
Looks like a hangover
The worst hangover ever.
For me, refreshingly honest. Yes, influenced by the the expressionism of the times Europe wide and his own personal history.
Why the 'subtitles'? I can read english. I find them annoyingly distracting.
Well I think this man's artwork is alarming...what was going on inside his head ...I bet he could never switch it off...how his ladies slept near him..the mind boggles...😬😬
Like with lots of art, Schiele's style probably began by accident and experimentation and he liked what he had produced. Whether this is influenced by other experiences or not...probably, we are the sum of our interactions with the world, but it doesn't have to be symptomatic of a mental 'disorder' to not create a photographic image, surely? We are humans not robots.
You have five minutes starting now
Pedophiles are often called “childlike.”
I just think he was trying to produce a nude or portrait differently than his fellow artists.
I think you're right.
You say you disapprove of psychoanalytic interpretations-yet your ideas rely HEAVILY on psychoanalysis.
I don't have a problem with the ideas behind psychoanalysis - but I have read dozens of mid-century psychoanalytic studies or artistic and literary figures and have generally found that they have added little to my understanding of a person.
Agatha Christie . . . .. . ?
Mmmm...such a predator. This video has put me right off him.... Never liked his work anyway.
You're certainly above my humble class. Where do you hear about these obscure people and why do you asume they're important. Or am I crazy to ask? (Not that the occasional psychiatrist doesn't lose his mind (I'm a certified witness to the contrary)).
"All very Freudian" - the guy with his sister in the hotel. Are you the Nietzschean, saying what happened isn't important? Is this or not fraught with whatever it is psychiatrists ponder? Does it matter psychiatrically if a brother has sex with a sister? This is for the sociology of knowledge.
(Edited because I forgot a parentheses)
Schiele is a major figure in 20th century art - we simply don't know what happened in that hotel room and I can't see the point in speculating - it won't bring us any closer to finding out.