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A Look Inside China’s Social Credit System | NBC News Now
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2019
- NBC’s Janis Mackey Frayer goes inside the factories making facial recognition scanners that track the movements and communities experimenting with China’s social credit system.
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A Look Inside China’s Social Credit System | NBC News Now
I think we still underestimate how utterly terrifying this is.
That is because it is not easy to even grasp how terrifying it is.
It'll be like this here soon
It is a supressing system, invasive, but it is giving results. Super Sad. Almost playing to be God. Once Again
And how likely it is to happen all over the world within 6 months
@@pisceananarchyvortex7223 highly
“But some people are fine with it”
Agree +100 points
Disagree -100 points
IT'S OVER BLOWN BY AMERICAN TROLLS
Don't lose that sandwich Mr Yoshikage
Better than credit based on wealth(which I have none) like in the us
agrees 100 times
However, I am disagree
“You’re not gonna be punished if you’re not doing anything wrong”
And who decides what’s “wrong”?
I don’t know, what do judges use to decide if someone is wrong?
who watches the watchers? in a way, the social credit rating system is already here. and it's everywhere. bank credit ratings, phone apps detecting fraud callers and promoters, amazon/markets rating your products, service related apps rating your services, businesses being rated online.... and of course govt. officials aren't spared either... it's not for any odd reason, that YT removed the dislike button right before the last presidential elections. what china's done is accelerate our passage towards the dystopia many have envisaged and dreaded.
@nelauren 我们已经无言以对了😂一个简单的银行卡的信用额度问题都会被你们扭曲成这样，甚至没有人愿意相信维基百科上的解释，而是去相信一些莫名其妙的报纸；Something wrong is if you are actually a criminal, you may get limitation on public facilities like high-speed train or bank account, and that's it😂first time to hear about this strange system's existence
@@nelauren taiwan is a country: -500
putin is a good guy: +500
跟他们较个锤子真，直接编点更离谱的但又明显漏洞的谣言把他们当猴耍岂不美哉
“I love super idol”
*+1 Billion social credit*
😭😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂
Taiwan is a country -300,000,000,000 social credit 😡
I love Xi Xinjiang
♾ social credits
@@youngpolo8760 Taiwan is not a country +300,000,000,000 social credits 👍🏾
you just said taiwan is a country??
-30,000,000 social credit 😤
A Nuke Is Being Sent To Your House!
*-999,999,999,999 social credit*
HUH?
@@xijinping.2338 Please don't execute me, glorious leader. I promise I'll bring my social credit up
@@xijinping.2338 winnie the pooh? 🤨🧐
I’m still waiting for double xps weekend event
You win the most underrated comment award of 2021!
Oh god...😂😂😂😂
Same bro i stuck hard at my credit
nc
If you play video games in China you’re gonna end up in jail cuz you can’t be lazy
If this doesn't utterly terrify you to your core than something is wrong with you. Do not allow this to happen in your country.
China is exporting these surveillance systems to Africa and South America
@@cobaltstar_8281 Fk China. I hate china, they bring the worst to our countries
It’s happening, July 2023 USA electronic banking system is being implemented.
Look into what Microsoft is doing it’s already started.
@@GINGER_KING_Yeah but Microsoft isn’t implementing a system that rates citizens social behavior. This is entirely on a different level.
I just want to let you guys know that I think the social credit system is amazing and that I am totally not at all being forced to say this against my own will at gun point
oh shut up robot 🤖
unless you get bad score, then you no good to CCP
+69420 credit score
Legends say if you go to George Orwell's grave you can hear a muffled "I told you soooo"
@杨健 What? If someone borrows, then don't they owe? What's up with that grandfather and grandson analogy? Are you throwing out ancient Chinese secrets? Or (more likely) do you work for the Chinese government as a media watchdog? We know that people who are more loyal to the government get higher scores and people who speak against it get low scores. And since low scores are synonymous with being a criminal, it pretty much a reason to throw dissenters in prision. What say you confucius?
Yeah certain Party members probably jerked off to 1984 in a Brave New World orgie porgie.
Not sure I can expect a tourist visa after typing that lols
In China you can't Eve criticize president xi unlike you do in USA
You will probably end up dead or executed in false charges.
No better than Saudi Arabia
The USA is the epitome of George Orwell's dream. They will invade an entire nation if they don't assimilate...
1984
imagine you and your friends grinding for social credits
Ha! more like farming social credits
Well, just go and buy tons of diapers and your social credit score will rise...we will be seeing people buying diapers in droves! :P
😂😂😂
Gamers 20 years later: me and my bois farming that social credit scores
Imagine the Karen’s of the world visiting you and writing you up
Narrator: ‘Everyone seems to have no problem with it’
Also Narrator: ‘There are millions of cameras monitoring your every move’
"Mao Zedong was the worst human ever"
Social credit: Execution
Of course shes gonna like the system or her score will tank. 😂
That's true. The Communists keep track of who has anti-government attitudes and/or makes anti-government comments. Even when they are abroad! They use the Confucius Society and other front organizations to monitor and record what their citizens are doing, saying and thinking in other countries.
Lmao that's true
I'm pretty sure they have the right to say that they like it now but are afraid of what it might become if corrupted? I saw some other guy say that anyways.
Reginald Bowls exactly, you can make guns illegal and your government may not infringe your other rights, but if other countries do the same, then the government can do what it wants without a revolution or help from another nation. Guaranteed if China were to infringe critical human rights America and even Russia would interfere, but if they did the same... well you know
This is fear mongering. There are laws on what increase or decrease one's score. If criticising the system resulted in reduced score, then Western media wouldn't miss the chance to report that. Coming from a neutral country, I'm so sick of these "independent" media companies in the US having the same agenda.
"i think...." -300 credit score!
Execution Date: NOW
"Tawain is not a country" +15 social credit
Wow so original and totally not a ded joke
@@darthhuntanoth3134 Thank you for defending the Chinese regime, glorious citizen!
+100 SC Points
what happened in June 4 ,1989? ... Nothing +1000 social creds
Imagine grinding to 900 social credit then calling Taiwan a country
‘Good person’ = Obedient Person
"Its weird that so many people seem okay with it." Well...with thousands of cameras monitoring your every move, you kinda have to be.
Nah. The chinese and Asian people in general are very collectivist.
Speaking out against the system will lower your score. So of course it'll become of censorship.
N st. Well it’s like you get rewarded for being good. So why would you not want to live somewhere where people want to be good?
@@ipareidolia it's because whoever is administering the system has the ability to abuse it for personal gain. It happened in the USSR and all the banana republics of the cold war. This is an extreme and worrisome development for any human system to try to regulate daily behavior and on a level that's even beyond authoritarian.
@Aleksandar Filipovic we don't like that the "West" is doing it. We acknowledge it happening but don't condone it.
I’ll live in the woods if this hits America
Charlie Dallachie me too, this is a bit too much things are getting crazy
Its kinda here.....its your credit score. Start with tieing that score with automated red light/speeding tickets. Make an illegal right turn on red, lose a point on your credit score.
@@Frank71 that's not how the credit score works...
@@joeyschmutnick5695
Unpaid red light camera tickets are reported to the credit reporting agencies.
Frank E credit score is mostly financial, a way for lenders to determine risk of lending....not every aspect of your life.
"I play minecraft 10 hours a day"
*-300,000,000,000 social credit 😠*
If EA was China they'd be like
"Buy 2x for 1 Week for only $500 Dollars!"
"Human beings have rights"
- 2 billion social credit
american citizens: -999999999999999999999999999 social credit
Well they don’t, we make our own rights. Human beings are just humans being humans.
*You are legally obligated to be cancelled by everyone on Twitter too*
*Winnie the Pooh*
@@drixcek9782 *whooosh* thats the sound of the joke going over your head
"Makes you become a Better Citizen" aka "Forces you to be an obedient subject of the government"
Now that's 'democracy' in a Chinese Communist society.
Click 'like' and lose 50 points.
Brazen Bull every radical leftist sjw’s dream until it is enforced on them as well haha
Are Americans this dumb and blind sighted to think that this is any different from their own credit scoring system? Answer: Yes. they are really stupid.
@@roeese1 are you really that stupid??? if you have bad credit in America can you buy a airplane ticket? YES. take a train? yes. get a passport? yes. speak out against the government in america? won't be sent to prison.... our finanical credit score is absolutely nothing like this dystopian nightmare thats happening in China. every country on the planet has financial credit scores.... nobody has this black mirror crap that china has.
Winnie the Pooh
*SOCIAL CREDIT DECREASED*
You said the word “freedom”
-50,000 credits
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a blueprint.🤦♂️
Make 1984 fiction again.
Sadly the opposite also happens.
Why do people keep saying that? Eric Blaire was Family. He was putting the script out there as part of established psychological warfare that people are less likely to fight against something with which they are familiar.
Literally 1984
On behalf of the Chinese Government, I regret to inform you that your social credit score has been lowered by 300 points, thank you 😊
This is exactly what George Orwell warned of...
Riley P Terry Gilliam "Brazil", "We are all in this together."
The Bible mark of the beast said it first
@@macmac9371 What do you mean?
@pop sickles the Bible is not fake . Lol. It called scripture cause people are scripting it’s outcome silly.
George Orwell is a white dude. Do not judge people of a different culture by the Western standard.
"West Taiwan is insane"
-1 Trillion social credit and ☠
At 6:57 the guy answering that question looked like he was responding as carefully as he possibly could lmao
All the "I like it, it's good" is so that their credit won't drop lmao
Exactly. These interviews are useless and funny
Yep
What happened in tianamen square in 1989?
@@acu7741 none *+999 credit score*
gab many fried dogs were being eaten and a large festival happened. Then the next day students protested and police massacred them because protesting and freedom of speech isn't allowed. +999999 social credits
Black mirror is supposed to be a warning not a blue print 🙄
apocalypsepow so was 1984
Imagine being a normie and referring to black mirror. It's like no one ever read 1984.
Actually Black Mirror core is kinda laughing of his audience looking and knowing things like this happen and not doing nothing
Dude shows like black mirror is predictive programming, I mean it’s called black “mirror” means they are reflecting a reality, or at least that’s what I processed in me head
Josh C. Yes that came up too, but the screens aren’t insignificant, they’re programming
It would be naieve to think that this system wont be coming to western countries soon...
Luckily we have something called the US constitution
Breaking news:
*United States constitution stolen*
In the United States it is known as Credit Score. Stay away from misinformation.
credit score in the us has barely any effect in day-to-day life
@@lalalalala7779same in China…
This is scary. People aren’t perfect and this capitalizes on that.
Its all about control
You can bet xi ping farce has a "perfect score" 🤗🤗🤗🤗 what a great guy!!
Exactly. Everyone loses. If your a smart person you realize you can't control yourself successfully. Your bound to lose your temper or outrage in public. I do believe the USCS will be more in favor of the left and will be less harsh with them.
in starcraft servers you get the message: you have been playing for 1 hour be sure to take a break, something along those lines. It is because china has implemented in their online games that if you play games for more than an hour or two a day it starts tanking your social credit score, and not only you it starts affecting people who associate with you.
Not sure about "Capitalizing" cause im pretty China aint Democratic
"She's an information collector"
Imagine your neighbors spying on you.. oh what a lovely system that builds on "trust", you can't even trust your own neighbor from not spying on you.
1984
NASI Germany
@@aimeeh400 soviet russia
Combine
I mean that happens every where, it just has a different result in China.
Now its coming to the US via the “covid passport”
How do you feel about the social credit system?
"We can't complain!"
So you like it???
"No, we CAN'T complain"
+ 420 social credit points
"You're not going to be punished if you did not do anything wrong."
I've heard that, time and time again, from the apologists of the authoritarian regimes.
And who is checking the ones creating and pushing this system?
Well..he doesn't have any choice regarding it.
what else is there for her to say or do? these people aren’t given a choice
This social credit system is literally 1984 Book coming to life u know the one with the "Big Brother"?
Those people are cool with it think laws will stay as they are and not become somthing horrible
Scammers be like:
Free Social Credit Generator
Forever L wtf who’s talking about that
@Forever L I hope the come to Venezuela, if you like socialism too much we can trade places if you want.
@Forever L r/NobodyAsked
Commentors be like: thats so crazy
Forever L: Did you know that the US used crazy bombs to cause the first crazy person?
Did you know the US sued the world health fund for spreading crazy?
Did you know the US created breakfast cereal to control your mind?
Forever L bet they gave you 10 credit to write this
Craziest part is 70% of Americans will accept this without question.
fr
Coming soon to the US
also EU
"what is weird, is that so many people seem okay with it." Yeah, you would have to be very brave to disagree with the ccp in public.
They literally interviewed by NBC one of the largest media company in america, and this stupid journalist thinking they would critize the ccp openly with their face in HD camera lol
I feel like people dont have right in west taiwan , as taiwanese im sad for those west taiwanese
@@chiangmei1265 Sorry to hear that. Do know that a big portion of the world is watching closely at China's actions. There's always hope.
@@Volnixz When will you westerners stop interfering with other countries’s business ?
That's why China will overtake USA
Even if they have nothing to hide every human has the right to their own privacy!
Unless you live under communism...
not even just privacy, this system dictates how you live your personal life. how many hours you can play video games, how many beers you can have at the end of the day, absolutely everything affects your social credit score. Its insane.
@@yuunpaan580 that’s basically total control of human life right there
Not anymore!
-78,000,000 points, public execution scheduled for September 29th, 2021 at 12:30PM
It’s sad they can’t be truly honest when they were interviewed
Fun fact: Xi Jinping held the reporter at gunpoint when she said this
That girl with the 700 score just went down to 30 for talking with the United States media.
David Alexandrovitch Is this true?
@@knightshopper no.
David Alexandrovitch link?
David is just being sarcastic, I presume!
her score went up after praising the credit system
Imagine being neighbors with “information collector” Karen
soon it will probs be facebook/ twitter ect.
AOC already wants people on a list, her drones will happily assist.
It’s like that one kid in the class who tells on you for everything
Being an "information collector" is a great way to an have an "electrical fire" while the doors were "blocked" resulting in your untimely death.
she's not really a karen, her social score will probably drop if she doesn't do it
@@antimatterinc.7026 There is no excuse.
I seen an old twilight zone episode like this, guy had a mark on his forehead that forbids anyone from talking to him. When anyone seen it they backed away, afraid of the consequences. His family, friends, colleagues, strangers, even the doctors at the hospital all refused to speak to him because he had the mark of shame. 😐
NBC acting like western countries don’t use extensive CCTV networks, facial recognition technology, vehicle tracking systems and online/internet data monitoring on ordinary citizens going about their day.
Imagine being a farmer. You wake up before the crack of dawn everyday and get ready for the day. You go out to your fields as soon as the sun comes up. Things aren’t looking too good. Lack of rain, insects, you name it. You reach your boiling point and start swearing and getting hot headed. Uh oh. You just lost social credit points for that. Now you can’t go out of town to get whatever you need that could help your farm. Oops.
The genius of communism.
its so messed up to be honest
The social credit score of the farmer in your example will suffer if the 'lady enforcer' catches him. Surveillance cameras are mostly found in cities and towns not in remote areas. So, I think the farmer will not lose any point.
@@oscarchute5702 what a complete chode you are for even remotely supporting this.
@@oscarchute5702 didn't you know that Chinese government had already installed cameras in majority of farms in china ?
The only reason they’re saying the system is great is that they would lose a ton of social credit if they said it was bad.
Or they are brainwashed
@@Maid-Saikoudaze Probably both
They realize their being monitored as they speak!
And they’d be arrested cause there’s no freedom of speech in China
Imagine they said it sucked and that aired on tv... now on the blacklist
“China sucks tiktok sucks islam sucks”
-infinite credit
One dude publicly said MMA is superior to traditional Chinese fighting styles and they sued him for 60,000 USD and crashed his social credit
Scariest thing I've seen in a long time
1:11 You can see "Zhima credit" on the top of the screen. It is merely a score indicating on how much can borrow money from Alipay. Just like the FICO score or your credit history in the US. And it makes sense that having a higher score indicates a good credit history and thus no deposit for using a shared bike. 4:54 Do you know what kind of people get to on the black list? Those who borrow from bank but never return the money, those who did't play their employees salary and those who physically attacked staffs on the train/plane. Does that make sense that they can no longer get loans or get onto a train/plane?
Yimin Wang lol wut?
Try walking around the streets of Hollywood (and many other cities) in the evening and you'll wish this existed in America. If this can stop almost all crime, I kinda like this
it's fake news made by USA fake news media
They found a way to stop people spitting n pooping on the streets lol
The fact that the system knows when you’ve been spreading rumors is honestly terrifying
No, this is pretty common to prevent terrorism and crime and have proven to be effective
@Ar S palestine*
@@jonathanjeffrymulyana4390 Even if this stopped every crime imaginable this type of system would not be worth it.
this likely means fake news online... like posting extremism things... like separatism, terrorism, etc
@@mafismathis8012 You don't think china is seperatist?
You haven't taken your 8th booster shot = -10,000 points
If America had this; Karen’s would run the earth.
"Information collector" ? you mean a rat
OKAYYYY - AKA “Snitches”
Your profile pic freaked me out for a sec... thought there was a bug on my screen haha
@@garcvict literally informants.
Yes, a snitch.
OKAYYYY 🐀
If everyone is focused on each other, they can’t focus on the government
wow so true
I mean there is some cons but getting discount and being secure in streets is what I need
Doom HeadShot that’s how they make it sound good to people like the girl in the video, look at the bigger picture and you see the malicious intent behind its implementation. Read some George Orwell
@@doomshot7324 for the cost of freedom?
Ding ding ding, a diversion
‘I live in a country with Free speech’ - gets cancelled (lose job, lose friends, lose all career prospects) for making a statement the masses find offensive on social media.
Extra child: -200 social credits
Donating organs: +400 Social credits
I THINK I FOUND A LOOPHOLE
Reporter : do you think this is a good idea?
Citizen: yes absolutely “winks at security camera”
LOL
You are a genius
If this can stop almost all crime, I don't think this is such a crazy idea. I kinda want this in America
@@First-Last-108 yeah but "crime" will most likely include disagreeing with the government in china!
@@First-Last-108 I think you should watch the black mirror episode "nosedive" if you haven't already. It's super similar to this. I don't think you would want it if you watch the episode
"She likes it."
Of course she does, she HAS to!
So many people are missing this point!! These people are kept in check, told what to do, what to like/dislike, who to interact with, what to believe.
能不装逼吗？还has to?
@@xiaominglee801 他就是说，政府要求你支持
Well, i guess it is that, but also it might be stockholm syndrome
Her social credit score will go down if she doesn't like it. She's being watched 24/7. Wake Up America!
This is why china keeps getting roasted on how its government treats its citizens.
Do we want to live like this? We need to ask ourselves if this is the life we want!! This is terrifying!!
I know righttt.. anywaysss drop that snap Lizzie
So let me get this straight;
If I am a person who works a 40 hour a week job, is nice and amicable to everyone, pays my taxes on time and maybe even does some community service, my "social credit score" can and will go down if I decide to use my leasuire time to play video games?
Doesn't sound like a system I want to live under
Or buying video games, what does that have to do with morality? The whole thing is dogshit obviously but even in their twisted view what is video games effect
@@tommy7830 it's not about morality lolol. If people play video games they spend less time doing productive things like working at a job or whatnot, which is bad for the economy and etc. Obv the gov doesn't like it.
You just described our social score
It wouldn't hurt your score too much as long as you don't play video games and drink a beer at the same time.
There is this trick everytime you buy a beer or video game you ALWAYS BUY BABY DIAPER WITH IT
I was laughing about the memes, then now sad after watching this.
same exact thing for me
you laughed? at memes? -3000 social credit
@@nicre133 taiwan is not a country
@@decay144 xi jinping is more peaceful than ghandi 😃
@@decay144 +10 social credits
As a Chinese, I don't even know this system exists until I started to stream on RUclips🤣
"Hong Kong should be completely independent"
*system crash*
The snitches even have quotas
this is messed up
They need to snitch 50 times a month or else....
It's a self imposed 'quota' 🙄
Also, it's good things and bad
Didn’t it say that she was snitching on a man that was cursing?
Don’t we all have our bad days?
Aren’t we allowed to relieve some of our stress from a bad day?
This doesn’t make someone a bad person, only shows that people can have bad days
The CIA had or still does a program like this. I can't remember.
@@samwestminster9135 just imagine your whole live, working and grinding, then one day you crash, you would've chill out, and release the anger.. Then your neighbour snitches on you, and all comes crashing down, then for what did he work for?
I DO NOT CONSENT!! This is real life not some BLACK MIRROR experiment.
no it real life IS
@杨健 what about the ugyurs and human rights activists surely you know what happens to them.
@@Wamsuo58u nobody has consistent proves about whether something is happening in Xinjiang or not, it can be true, it can be fake news too (no wonder)
@@santiagorappy71 why don't you go there oh wait once you get in there's no getting out!
@@Wamsuo58u? A lot of people has gone to Xinjiang, so your comment is nonsense
Honestly, sounds easy, just chant "TAIWAN IS NOT COUNTRY" 'OPPRESS TIBET" "T SQUARE IS MYTH"
Sounds like an actual credit score
Well this is completely terrifying. Also, you cannot take those interviewee’s opinions verbatim - they are on camera with their face visible and they are clearly going to say whatever they think the CCP wants to hear and what will benefit their credit score on a personal level. Beneath the surface, I bet people are terrified but just do not know what to do.
You’ve got to be crazy!
@@mattneko4225 Dogs! 🐕
Unfortunately, I doubt that these people disagree with this system beneath the surface. They were born into a society in which personal privacy rights were already being encroached upon. They also all have good social credit scores; humans tend to like things they’re good at. History has shown that people who are oppressed tend to agree with their oppressors actions.
@@mattneko4225 -5000000 social credits!!
This is just like Animals; your profile photo.
4. Juny 1989? Nothing happened!
Social Score: +15 points
No, students were massacred because freedom of speech and protesting is not allowed. +79 social credit score
@@yangleezhao5847 Speaking English. -520 credit score.
@@chronosbat lmao not the "520"💀
@@yangleezhao5847 -1,000,000 social score
hong kong is part of china +500 sc
Everyone gangsta till they find out this isn’t just a meme.
"it's a mechanism that pushes you to become a better citizen" yeah but less of an individual.
1984: *Exists.*
China: Can I copy your homework.
1984: Ok, just make it different.
China: Ok. *Makes the social credit system.*
A dystopian nightmare!
@@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 every comment in this form is, I agree
@elijah mikle I agree, it's free for a reason
china copying homework? LOL WTF
Do you know about Libra and Calibra from Facebook? Yea usa is next
I was firmly against the stop snitchin thing when they were protecting murderers. But turning in people for mismanaging money, practicing religion, and having political ideals is ridiculous.
Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .
@@condorX2 robot
@@avgvstvs7 Nah. I'm just a gamer. You can check out my ad free videos via my profile.
Anyway, please read this and get some idea on what's happening in Western media in your country.
Why do people still think Chinese government is tyrannical while many Chinese people are very satisfied with the government themselves (and know what it’s like in the west)?
Most people in UK, US, Australia, and Canada hold the view that the Chinese people have been brainwashed by the CPC and Chinese State media and agencies.
It is ironic that the same people in UK, US, Australia, and Canada have no awareness that they themselves have been brainwashed and conditioned by their own mass media exemplified by Fox, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, NY Post, and so on concerning matters relating to Chinese people. They know little why the Chinese people are largely satisfied with their everyday lives. Some 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of abject poverty in 40 years, and the 200 million middle-class Chinese are growing in size and wealth. Well, you have seen a horde of Chinese tourists invading your big cities, haven’t you? Are they all fake Chinese tourists, maybe S.Koreans, Japanese and Vietnamese masquerading as Chinese? Is the money they are spending to help propel your country’s economy also fake? Yeah, right.
The Chinese people are happy to have Freedom from gun violence, Freedom from drug trafficking, Freedom to walk the streets of Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen without fear of molestation at 2am, and Freedom from politicians like Trump mouthing off fake news with impunity.
Source
qr.ae/Taeosv
what happened on june 4, 1989
A: Something
B: nothing
US is doing it too, just not telling you
"for some reason everyone I talk to seems to like the social credit system"
Well obviously they cant just walk around bad mouthing the social credit system or else they will lose their social credit, ESPECIALLY if they bad mouth it to the American media.
That's true! And possibly idealistic, if they are young and haven't seen the real world of their Gov't Corruption and injustice!
Chinese Gov't had found another way to muzzle its people!
Lenita A At least you can move around without the fear of been robbed, or get shoot up in the schools malls etc.
4:00 this is every Karen's ultimate dream
Wet dream
So noisy.
Like the kind of erotic fantasy that people have but do not even talk about because it is so private and outlandish.
@@samriwelkeish7981 heyy bestie
A friend of mine was friends with an info collector and she said that they get harshly penalised if a report of bad behaviour turns out to be false.
taiwan isn't a country !!! Ok, nOw where is my social credits?
-♾️
The sheer amount of false/misleading information in this video is absurd. As someone who grew up in Beijing, I’ve never even heard of the so called social credit. The connection between individuals and the government isn’t as close as portrayed by certain media. Some people are fine with it because they CHOOSE to give up some privacy for security and safety. By saying that I’m neither crediting ccp government nor denying that there may be lots of problems with the government. But the truth is, what’s presented in this video is just nowhere near what’s happening in China.
The CCP praises your answer! 100 social credits to your score! Well done citizen!
+100 social credit points!
It's alarming to see these young people attempt to justify this... and correlating this score with being a good person, very alarming.
@Varoom Zazoom Except the SJWs that want to shift the balance in favour of diversity and equality (both contradictory terms) represent a small minority of the population (they're mostly white upper middle class ironically). Most of the population HAS to live a life of responsibility, not victimhood to survive in a free economy. The small minority of people advocating for victimhood culture are ironically priveleged enough to be in a position where they don't need to be responsible due to nepotism or just being spoilled in their childhood.
@Varoom Zazoom The Media, Political class and universities do not represent the entire country.... their values are not alligned with that of the majority, which is a major reason why Trump won, despite having no political background.
I think the system is fine, other than the fact that there in no way to opt out unless you move.
But in such a small place with such a large population they need a system.
Nick Goertzen you’re stupid
because China does not have a credit system. The score 753 on video is from Alibaba. A private company
Watch Dog mixed with Black Mirror type of society
Its like this anime im watching again called Psycho Pass.
Or the movie ‘In Time’.
@@jahjoeka literally about to comment Black Mirror episode
I’d rather have good people loose privacy than bad people get away with bad actions
First Last than you’re a sheep who will help facilitate the downfall of all freedoms
George Orwell nailed it. It is amazing the rights people will give up for being "safe".
China citizens : This social credit system is totally bul....
*-300 social credit*
China citizens : *GOOD & PRACTICABLE*
*+10000 social credit*
I'm Invisible
Of course the girl with the 752 score would like it, it benefits her but if she had a 470 than I bet she wouldn't like it as much
We got no idea if she likes it. She said what has to be said to soften the repercussions of even talking to a western media. Saying anything bad about the social credit system is a sure way of a
@@3goats1coat You got a point there
Be a sheeple, and it's all sunshine and rainbows.
You are mislead by CNBC. Alipay score is a foot print according your behavior in buying or loaning with Alibaba Apps. You can have 0 score if you did not any activity in this apps. So what? Even you may uninstall the apps and no any problems. But why do you call it social credit system like every one has been engaged in it? It is not the trues.
@@boulderbash19700209 Right up to the slaughter...
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-Ben Franklin
@@dordly bro this the second dumb comment you made. Just leave this video please.
Amos Wilborn He did make a dumb comment but he’s right.
Unarmed sheep are the first to die.
@BitterVoid Bro, what? Are all of yall stupid
@@haofu173 Franklin didn't own slaves...the American Revolution in the northern colonies was the first movement in the world to declare the abolition of slavery, but they allied with the southern states in the war against Britain and to put up a united front against the colonial powers in general.
Me: Taiwan is a country
China: -999999999 social credit (execution date-tomorrow)
"Give me liberty, or give me death!"
-Patrick Henry
the thing is, while a very strict system that has those 'enforcers' unwatched, is dangerous (eg: she can blackmail people if she wants to, or become unjust themselves)
the other side of the coin , 'liberty' , is also not very ideal if people took it too far (eg: anarchy, or simply provocators everywhere bashing one group against the other)
the middle ground is the solution. The problem is, people distort 'the middle point' especially when their own personal bias (eg: greed, selfish) takes place
@@andi2658 China executes people who are corrupt. So that should serve as a deterrant.
@@andi2658 definitely that's human nature it will happen.
It will never fail to make me laugh that that phrase was uttered by a man who owned slaves.
"Give me liberty, or give me death!"
Chinese gov: "I see it as an absolute win"
*continue to crush students protest with tanks*
THE PART WHERE THEY SAY WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS SYSTEM ITS MORE LIKE YOU BETTER BE OKAY WITH THE SYSTEM OR YOUR GOING MISSING
"Yeah I am okay with it." Shifty eyes and sweating bullets.
Resistance is futile!
Forget that noise! Screw SCS. I would rebel.
*you’re
"I don't like it" score drops to 350
On June 4, 1989, what happened in China?
Tiananmen Square massacre -30,000,000 social credit
Nothing happened +300,000,000 social credit
they make social credit sound so much better than it actually is
It's a great concept though
Omg this is like 1984, like wtf
@@wowmindesdye4043 bingo. Frogs.
@@wowmindesdye4043 orwell was a socialist though 😕 and he was warning about oligarchs
Any other ideas for how to maintain law and order in a country of 1.4 billion? Durr durr
Wake up! Its getting worse.
or like the us credit system, pretty much the same thing
Hong Kong, let's hope your backbone spreads to the mainland.
Nah, no way it will spread to mainland.
Live long enough in prison, you'll start to love it like it is your home.
Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .
You can bet the people of Hong Kong wish they had our SECOND AMENDMENT!
@@condorX2
Yeah, there's always a hook ins't there? a way to justify a future misdeed. No control, no matter how altruistic the motive, can be justified when perpetrated over other people. Control of humans against humans is completely Godless, and a violation of supreme law and human rights.
@Slavic Science gotta watch em all wumao parrots.
Too bad China 🇨🇳 has 2~3 MILLION Uyghurs Muslims in Concentration Camps. I bet there score is in the negatives.
-150 social credit🇨🇳👎☹️
"spreading rumours" == "talk about the government and you'll end up homeless"
This is crazy. It’s literally, 1984.
USA
if you think that's bad you should see how much google knows about you. They know everywhere you went if you have google apps on your phone.
Why is something that can stop almost all crime so crazy?
LOL
@@First-Last-108
You people are indeed naive like 3 yo old toddler