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  • @nicetomoleyou4534
    @nicetomoleyou4534 4 года назад +7152

    I think we still underestimate how utterly terrifying this is.

    • @Lesrevesdhiver
      @Lesrevesdhiver 3 года назад +294

      That is because it is not easy to even grasp how terrifying it is.

    • @briancannon3987
      @briancannon3987 3 года назад +85

      It'll be like this here soon

    • @mvilla7668
      @mvilla7668 3 года назад +105

      It is a supressing system, invasive, but it is giving results. Super Sad. Almost playing to be God. Once Again

    • @pisceananarchyvortex7223
      @pisceananarchyvortex7223 3 года назад +33

      And how likely it is to happen all over the world within 6 months

    • @DELANADINE
      @DELANADINE 3 года назад +8

      @@pisceananarchyvortex7223 highly

  • @justsomeguywithasandwich5906
    @justsomeguywithasandwich5906 2 года назад +3409

    “But some people are fine with it”
    Agree +100 points
    Disagree -100 points

    • @21boxhead
      @21boxhead 2 года назад +16

      IT'S OVER BLOWN BY AMERICAN TROLLS

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 2 года назад +21

      Don't lose that sandwich Mr Yoshikage

    • @jnighs8380
      @jnighs8380 2 года назад +3

      Better than credit based on wealth(which I have none) like in the us

    • @fulltimecommenter
      @fulltimecommenter 2 года назад +1

      agrees 100 times

    • @curesat0ria106
      @curesat0ria106 2 года назад

      However, I am disagree

  • @charliedallachie3539
    @charliedallachie3539 4 года назад +1748

    I’ll live in the woods if this hits America

    • @pierreg9328
      @pierreg9328 4 года назад +115

      Charlie Dallachie me too, this is a bit too much things are getting crazy

    • @Frank71
      @Frank71 4 года назад +55

      Its kinda here.....its your credit score. Start with tieing that score with automated red light/speeding tickets. Make an illegal right turn on red, lose a point on your credit score.

    • @joeyschmutnick5695
      @joeyschmutnick5695 4 года назад +181

      @@Frank71 that's not how the credit score works...

    • @Frank71
      @Frank71 4 года назад +20

      @@joeyschmutnick5695
      Unpaid red light camera tickets are reported to the credit reporting agencies.

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 4 года назад +115

      Frank E credit score is mostly financial, a way for lenders to determine risk of lending....not every aspect of your life.

  • @r4v4g3r
    @r4v4g3r Год назад +130

    “You’re not gonna be punished if you’re not doing anything wrong”
    And who decides what’s “wrong”?

    • @nelauren
      @nelauren 6 месяцев назад +3

      I don’t know, what do judges use to decide if someone is wrong?

    • @delmanpronto9374
      @delmanpronto9374 4 месяца назад

      who watches the watchers? in a way, the social credit rating system is already here. and it's everywhere. bank credit ratings, phone apps detecting fraud callers and promoters, amazon/markets rating your products, service related apps rating your services, businesses being rated online.... and of course govt. officials aren't spared either... it's not for any odd reason, that YT removed the dislike button right before the last presidential elections. what china's done is accelerate our passage towards the dystopia many have envisaged and dreaded.

    • @inshi_recluse
      @inshi_recluse 3 месяца назад +1

      ​ @nelauren 我们已经无言以对了😂一个简单的银行卡的信用额度问题都会被你们扭曲成这样,甚至没有人愿意相信维基百科上的解释,而是去相信一些莫名其妙的报纸;Something wrong is if you are actually a criminal, you may get limitation on public facilities like high-speed train or bank account, and that's it😂first time to hear about this strange system's existence

    • @firstlastfool
      @firstlastfool 2 месяца назад +1

      @@nelauren taiwan is a country: -500
      putin is a good guy: +500

    • @小桃王-k5x
      @小桃王-k5x Месяц назад

      跟他们较个锤子真,直接编点更离谱的但又明显漏洞的谣言把他们当猴耍岂不美哉

  • @drewan22
    @drewan22 2 года назад +3889

    you just said taiwan is a country??
    -30,000,000 social credit 😤

    • @boombasticx8031
      @boombasticx8031 2 года назад +124

      A Nuke Is Being Sent To Your House!

    • @Mysterious..
      @Mysterious.. 2 года назад +119

      *-999,999,999,999 social credit*

    • @xijinping.2338
      @xijinping.2338 2 года назад +38

      HUH?

    • @drewan22
      @drewan22 2 года назад +86

      @@xijinping.2338 Please don't execute me, glorious leader. I promise I'll bring my social credit up

    • @sumtingwong7869
      @sumtingwong7869 2 года назад +39

      @@xijinping.2338 winnie the pooh? 🤨🧐

  • @N.St-
    @N.St- 5 лет назад +3562

    "Its weird that so many people seem okay with it." Well...with thousands of cameras monitoring your every move, you kinda have to be.

    • @stephenmurray2851
      @stephenmurray2851 5 лет назад +66

      Nah. The chinese and Asian people in general are very collectivist.

    • @wyattcon11
      @wyattcon11 5 лет назад +277

      Speaking out against the system will lower your score. So of course it'll become of censorship.

    • @ipareidolia
      @ipareidolia 5 лет назад +9

      N st. Well it’s like you get rewarded for being good. So why would you not want to live somewhere where people want to be good?

    • @wyattcon11
      @wyattcon11 5 лет назад +109

      @@ipareidolia it's because whoever is administering the system has the ability to abuse it for personal gain. It happened in the USSR and all the banana republics of the cold war. This is an extreme and worrisome development for any human system to try to regulate daily behavior and on a level that's even beyond authoritarian.

    • @wyattcon11
      @wyattcon11 5 лет назад +7

      @Aleksandar Filipovic we don't like that the "West" is doing it. We acknowledge it happening but don't condone it.

  • @johnnymcblaze
    @johnnymcblaze 5 лет назад +3563

    Legends say if you go to George Orwell's grave you can hear a muffled "I told you soooo"

    • @johnnymcblaze
      @johnnymcblaze 5 лет назад +116

      @杨健 What? If someone borrows, then don't they owe? What's up with that grandfather and grandson analogy? Are you throwing out ancient Chinese secrets? Or (more likely) do you work for the Chinese government as a media watchdog? We know that people who are more loyal to the government get higher scores and people who speak against it get low scores. And since low scores are synonymous with being a criminal, it pretty much a reason to throw dissenters in prision. What say you confucius?

    • @wanking5425
      @wanking5425 5 лет назад +60

      Yeah certain Party members probably jerked off to 1984 in a Brave New World orgie porgie.
      Not sure I can expect a tourist visa after typing that lols

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh 5 лет назад +47

      In China you can't Eve criticize president xi unlike you do in USA
      You will probably end up dead or executed in false charges.
      No better than Saudi Arabia

    • @petepetersen5418
      @petepetersen5418 5 лет назад +5

      The USA is the epitome of George Orwell's dream. They will invade an entire nation if they don't assimilate...

    • @tibora13
      @tibora13 5 лет назад +5

      1984

  • @Skillzfr
    @Skillzfr 2 года назад +484

    “I love super idol”
    *+1 Billion social credit*

  • @shivadityasinghmachhan
    @shivadityasinghmachhan 2 года назад +4339

    "i think...." -300 credit score!

    • @kevinflaherty1
      @kevinflaherty1 2 года назад +234

      Execution Date: NOW

    • @manofyourdreams129
      @manofyourdreams129 2 года назад +264

      "Tawain is not a country" +15 social credit

    • @darthhuntanoth3134
      @darthhuntanoth3134 2 года назад +12

      Wow so original and totally not a ded joke

    • @kevinflaherty1
      @kevinflaherty1 2 года назад +199

      @@darthhuntanoth3134 Thank you for defending the Chinese regime, glorious citizen!
      +100 SC Points

    • @MemeConnoisseur
      @MemeConnoisseur 2 года назад +105

      what happened in June 4 ,1989? ... Nothing +1000 social creds

  • @MrTrevers99
    @MrTrevers99 5 лет назад +5037

    "Makes you become a Better Citizen" aka "Forces you to be an obedient subject of the government"

    • @yengsabio5315
      @yengsabio5315 5 лет назад +140

      Now that's 'democracy' in a Chinese Communist society.

    • @GameSpyDarkAge
      @GameSpyDarkAge 5 лет назад +224

      Click 'like' and lose 50 points.

    • @donrainesoh
      @donrainesoh 5 лет назад +82

      Brazen Bull every radical leftist sjw’s dream until it is enforced on them as well haha

    • @roeese1
      @roeese1 5 лет назад +83

      Are Americans this dumb and blind sighted to think that this is any different from their own credit scoring system? Answer: Yes. they are really stupid.

    • @steven-tf4bn
      @steven-tf4bn 5 лет назад +233

      @@roeese1 are you really that stupid??? if you have bad credit in America can you buy a airplane ticket? YES. take a train? yes. get a passport? yes. speak out against the government in america? won't be sent to prison.... our finanical credit score is absolutely nothing like this dystopian nightmare thats happening in China. every country on the planet has financial credit scores.... nobody has this black mirror crap that china has.

  • @subscribetoscp-173oritsnap5
    @subscribetoscp-173oritsnap5 2 года назад +3493

    I’m still waiting for double xps weekend event

    • @etzstyy6301
      @etzstyy6301 2 года назад +109

      You win the most underrated comment award of 2021!

    • @sweet_and_sarcastic
      @sweet_and_sarcastic 2 года назад +32

      Oh god...😂😂😂😂

    • @doragoker1220
      @doragoker1220 2 года назад +6

      Same bro i stuck hard at my credit

    • @sczy.e
      @sczy.e 2 года назад +1

      nc

    • @stephano5759
      @stephano5759 2 года назад +3

      If you play video games in China you’re gonna end up in jail cuz you can’t be lazy

  • @keeganbrown9967
    @keeganbrown9967 2 года назад +179

    If this doesn't utterly terrify you to your core than something is wrong with you. Do not allow this to happen in your country.

    • @cobaltstar_8281
      @cobaltstar_8281 Год назад

      China is exporting these surveillance systems to Africa and South America

    • @yakyyaky1
      @yakyyaky1 Год назад

      @@cobaltstar_8281 Fk China. I hate china, they bring the worst to our countries

    • @sadenight
      @sadenight Год назад +1

      It’s happening, July 2023 USA electronic banking system is being implemented.

    • @GINGER_KING_
      @GINGER_KING_ 9 месяцев назад

      Look into what Microsoft is doing it’s already started.

    • @timothybrown8424
      @timothybrown8424 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@GINGER_KING_Yeah but Microsoft isn’t implementing a system that rates citizens social behavior. This is entirely on a different level.

  • @GlamorousTitanic21
    @GlamorousTitanic21 4 года назад +803

    1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a blueprint.🤦‍♂️

    • @aikou2886
      @aikou2886 3 года назад +50

      Make 1984 fiction again.

    • @Niktuono
      @Niktuono 2 года назад

      Sadly the opposite also happens.

    • @vaccinefraud5570
      @vaccinefraud5570 2 года назад

      Why do people keep saying that? Eric Blaire was Family. He was putting the script out there as part of established psychological warfare that people are less likely to fight against something with which they are familiar.

    • @DeezN1892
      @DeezN1892 2 года назад

      Literally 1984

    • @thelegominers2175
      @thelegominers2175 2 года назад +4

      On behalf of the Chinese Government, I regret to inform you that your social credit score has been lowered by 300 points, thank you 😊

  • @nopentireiii2147
    @nopentireiii2147 2 года назад +2311

    "Human beings have rights"
    - 2 billion social credit

    •  2 года назад +65

      american citizens: -999999999999999999999999999 social credit

    • @drixcek9782
      @drixcek9782 2 года назад +9

      Well they don’t, we make our own rights. Human beings are just humans being humans.

    • @MariOmor1
      @MariOmor1 2 года назад +13

      *You are legally obligated to be cancelled by everyone on Twitter too*

    • @yellinglaozu
      @yellinglaozu 2 года назад +6

      *Winnie the Pooh*

    • @Unnamed-_.
      @Unnamed-_. 2 года назад +6

      @@drixcek9782 *whooosh* thats the sound of the joke going over your head

  • @bobboon7982
    @bobboon7982 4 года назад +4633

    imagine you and your friends grinding for social credits

    • @quocvietophu1627
      @quocvietophu1627 4 года назад +311

      Ha! more like farming social credits

    • @Zekrom569
      @Zekrom569 4 года назад +192

      Well, just go and buy tons of diapers and your social credit score will rise...we will be seeing people buying diapers in droves! :P

    • @Alaska-mk4ok
      @Alaska-mk4ok 3 года назад +5

      😂😂😂

    • @Anderson-ly9no
      @Anderson-ly9no 3 года назад +127

      Gamers 20 years later: me and my bois farming that social credit scores

    • @michaels8355
      @michaels8355 3 года назад +41

      Imagine the Karen’s of the world visiting you and writing you up

  • @xrenegade87xchannel88
    @xrenegade87xchannel88 2 года назад +135

    I just want to let you guys know that I think the social credit system is amazing and that I am totally not at all being forced to say this against my own will at gun point

    • @yakyyaky1
      @yakyyaky1 Год назад

      oh shut up robot 🤖

    • @SF-ww9xe
      @SF-ww9xe 6 месяцев назад +1

      unless you get bad score, then you no good to CCP

    • @adamgonzalez9650
      @adamgonzalez9650 26 дней назад

      +69420 credit score

  • @apocalypsepow
    @apocalypsepow 5 лет назад +1434

    Black mirror is supposed to be a warning not a blue print 🙄

    • @taylorslade8080
      @taylorslade8080 4 года назад +68

      apocalypsepow so was 1984

    • @-----------------------------
      @----------------------------- 4 года назад +36

      Imagine being a normie and referring to black mirror. It's like no one ever read 1984.

    • @thar768
      @thar768 4 года назад +7

      Actually Black Mirror core is kinda laughing of his audience looking and knowing things like this happen and not doing nothing

    • @bryanbroacosta
      @bryanbroacosta 4 года назад +30

      Dude shows like black mirror is predictive programming, I mean it’s called black “mirror” means they are reflecting a reality, or at least that’s what I processed in me head

    • @bryanbroacosta
      @bryanbroacosta 4 года назад

      Josh C. Yes that came up too, but the screens aren’t insignificant, they’re programming

  • @rileyp5172
    @rileyp5172 4 года назад +3092

    This is exactly what George Orwell warned of...

    • @longwlenguyen4214
      @longwlenguyen4214 4 года назад +25

      Riley P Terry Gilliam "Brazil", "We are all in this together."

    • @macmac9371
      @macmac9371 4 года назад +71

      The Bible mark of the beast said it first

    • @kfirlevy7635
      @kfirlevy7635 4 года назад +12

      @@macmac9371 What do you mean?

    • @macmac9371
      @macmac9371 3 года назад +26

      @pop sickles the Bible is not fake . Lol. It called scripture cause people are scripting it’s outcome silly.

    • @oscarchute5702
      @oscarchute5702 3 года назад +4

      George Orwell is a white dude. Do not judge people of a different culture by the Western standard.

  • @tofugakiraidesu
    @tofugakiraidesu 3 года назад +806

    "She's an information collector"
    Imagine your neighbors spying on you.. oh what a lovely system that builds on "trust", you can't even trust your own neighbor from not spying on you.

    • @brumhelldah917
      @brumhelldah917 3 года назад +27

      1984

    • @aimeeh400
      @aimeeh400 3 года назад +12

      NASI Germany

    • @SIMnCed
      @SIMnCed 3 года назад +7

      @@aimeeh400 soviet russia

    • @SnrubSource
      @SnrubSource 2 года назад +4

      Combine

    • @bencastor9207
      @bencastor9207 2 года назад +2

      I mean that happens every where, it just has a different result in China.

  • @Alexmadeyousmile
    @Alexmadeyousmile 2 года назад +22

    ‘Good person’ = Obedient Person

  • @trevorlamb9749
    @trevorlamb9749 4 года назад +5664

    Of course shes gonna like the system or her score will tank. 😂

    • @gregs.2679
      @gregs.2679 4 года назад +253

      That's true. The Communists keep track of who has anti-government attitudes and/or makes anti-government comments. Even when they are abroad! They use the Confucius Society and other front organizations to monitor and record what their citizens are doing, saying and thinking in other countries.

    • @HDMordey
      @HDMordey 4 года назад +24

      Lmao that's true

    • @reginaldbowls7180
      @reginaldbowls7180 4 года назад +11

      I'm pretty sure they have the right to say that they like it now but are afraid of what it might become if corrupted? I saw some other guy say that anyways.

    • @bryanbroacosta
      @bryanbroacosta 4 года назад +9

      Reginald Bowls exactly, you can make guns illegal and your government may not infringe your other rights, but if other countries do the same, then the government can do what it wants without a revolution or help from another nation. Guaranteed if China were to infringe critical human rights America and even Russia would interfere, but if they did the same... well you know

    • @zannierzan9634
      @zannierzan9634 4 года назад +16

      This is fear mongering. There are laws on what increase or decrease one's score. If criticising the system resulted in reduced score, then Western media wouldn't miss the chance to report that. Coming from a neutral country, I'm so sick of these "independent" media companies in the US having the same agenda.

  • @plinyelder8156
    @plinyelder8156 4 года назад +2704

    This is scary. People aren’t perfect and this capitalizes on that.

    • @LSheWolf84
      @LSheWolf84 3 года назад +121

      Its all about control

    • @anyoneanywhere8212
      @anyoneanywhere8212 3 года назад +55

      You can bet xi ping farce has a "perfect score" 🤗🤗🤗🤗 what a great guy!!

    • @bidenadministrationischina5091
      @bidenadministrationischina5091 3 года назад +34

      Exactly. Everyone loses. If your a smart person you realize you can't control yourself successfully. Your bound to lose your temper or outrage in public. I do believe the USCS will be more in favor of the left and will be less harsh with them.

    • @yuunpaan580
      @yuunpaan580 3 года назад +14

      in starcraft servers you get the message: you have been playing for 1 hour be sure to take a break, something along those lines. It is because china has implemented in their online games that if you play games for more than an hour or two a day it starts tanking your social credit score, and not only you it starts affecting people who associate with you.

    • @TheRedditKing1
      @TheRedditKing1 3 года назад +4

      Not sure about "Capitalizing" cause im pretty China aint Democratic

  • @user-yg2up4lg3r
    @user-yg2up4lg3r 5 лет назад +2520

    That girl with the 700 score just went down to 30 for talking with the United States media.

    • @knightshopper
      @knightshopper 5 лет назад +9

      David Alexandrovitch Is this true?

    • @martincibulka588
      @martincibulka588 5 лет назад +37

      @@knightshopper no.

    • @yoooovictor
      @yoooovictor 5 лет назад +1

      David Alexandrovitch link?

    • @yengsabio5315
      @yengsabio5315 5 лет назад +95

      David is just being sarcastic, I presume!

    • @Rakesh-ec2pz
      @Rakesh-ec2pz 5 лет назад +206

      her score went up after praising the credit system

  • @muhammadwaxali4494
    @muhammadwaxali4494 Год назад +29

    Narrator: ‘Everyone seems to have no problem with it’
    Also Narrator: ‘There are millions of cameras monitoring your every move’

  • @neko_aple
    @neko_aple 2 года назад +972

    "You're not going to be punished if you did not do anything wrong."
    I've heard that, time and time again, from the apologists of the authoritarian regimes.

    • @zlatyan
      @zlatyan 2 года назад +29

      And who is checking the ones creating and pushing this system?

    • @ashishbhatt3467
      @ashishbhatt3467 2 года назад +2

      Well..he doesn't have any choice regarding it.

    • @benward3762
      @benward3762 2 года назад +6

      what else is there for her to say or do? these people aren’t given a choice

    • @mq-r3apz291
      @mq-r3apz291 2 года назад +16

      This social credit system is literally 1984 Book coming to life u know the one with the "Big Brother"?

    • @antmc9388
      @antmc9388 2 года назад +2

      Those people are cool with it think laws will stay as they are and not become somthing horrible

  • @talabinhussain8800
    @talabinhussain8800 4 года назад +2069

    Even if they have nothing to hide every human has the right to their own privacy!

    • @BigPuffyNipples
      @BigPuffyNipples 3 года назад +104

      Unless you live under communism...

    • @yuunpaan580
      @yuunpaan580 3 года назад +182

      not even just privacy, this system dictates how you live your personal life. how many hours you can play video games, how many beers you can have at the end of the day, absolutely everything affects your social credit score. Its insane.

    • @theemet8010
      @theemet8010 3 года назад +98

      @@yuunpaan580 that’s basically total control of human life right there

    • @pisceananarchyvortex7223
      @pisceananarchyvortex7223 3 года назад +1

      Not anymore!

    • @packerman7410
      @packerman7410 3 года назад +30

      -78,000,000 points, public execution scheduled for September 29th, 2021 at 12:30PM

  • @MrFragologist
    @MrFragologist 5 лет назад +1515

    Scariest thing I've seen in a long time

    • @darkphoton_15keV
      @darkphoton_15keV 5 лет назад +17

      1:11 You can see "Zhima credit" on the top of the screen. It is merely a score indicating on how much can borrow money from Alipay. Just like the FICO score or your credit history in the US. And it makes sense that having a higher score indicates a good credit history and thus no deposit for using a shared bike. 4:54 Do you know what kind of people get to on the black list? Those who borrow from bank but never return the money, those who did't play their employees salary and those who physically attacked staffs on the train/plane. Does that make sense that they can no longer get loans or get onto a train/plane?

    • @krys8494
      @krys8494 5 лет назад +1

      Yimin Wang lol wut?

    • @First-Last-108
      @First-Last-108 5 лет назад +9

      Try walking around the streets of Hollywood (and many other cities) in the evening and you'll wish this existed in America. If this can stop almost all crime, I kinda like this

    • @xiaopingwang6408
      @xiaopingwang6408 5 лет назад +3

      it's fake news made by USA fake news media

    • @twinkieau981
      @twinkieau981 5 лет назад

      They found a way to stop people spitting n pooping on the streets lol

  • @ChineseHistorian2022
    @ChineseHistorian2022 Год назад +15

    Imagine grinding to 900 social credit then calling Taiwan a country

  • @carlosserna521
    @carlosserna521 3 года назад +1442

    All the "I like it, it's good" is so that their credit won't drop lmao

    • @talalzero1418
      @talalzero1418 2 года назад +135

      Exactly. These interviews are useless and funny

    • @canadiancollector696
      @canadiancollector696 2 года назад +1

      Yep

    • @acu7741
      @acu7741 2 года назад +32

      What happened in tianamen square in 1989?

    • @rinkbg8019
      @rinkbg8019 2 года назад +76

      @@acu7741 none *+999 credit score*

    • @yangleezhao5847
      @yangleezhao5847 2 года назад +7

      gab many fried dogs were being eaten and a large festival happened. Then the next day students protested and police massacred them because protesting and freedom of speech isn't allowed. +999999 social credits

  • @two_toned_rooster
    @two_toned_rooster 3 года назад +915

    Imagine being neighbors with “information collector” Karen

    • @elliottb7009
      @elliottb7009 2 года назад +23

      soon it will probs be facebook/ twitter ect.
      AOC already wants people on a list, her drones will happily assist.

    • @banjoman2035
      @banjoman2035 2 года назад +32

      It’s like that one kid in the class who tells on you for everything

    • @TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
      @TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 2 года назад +9

      Being an "information collector" is a great way to an have an "electrical fire" while the doors were "blocked" resulting in your untimely death.

    • @antimatterinc.7026
      @antimatterinc.7026 2 года назад +4

      she's not really a karen, her social score will probably drop if she doesn't do it

    • @TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
      @TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 2 года назад +4

      @@antimatterinc.7026 There is no excuse.

  • @nanog1836
    @nanog1836 5 лет назад +557

    If everyone is focused on each other, they can’t focus on the government

    • @jesseconstantine
      @jesseconstantine 5 лет назад +16

      wow so true

    • @doomshot7324
      @doomshot7324 5 лет назад +1

      I mean there is some cons but getting discount and being secure in streets is what I need

    • @nanog1836
      @nanog1836 5 лет назад +14

      Doom HeadShot that’s how they make it sound good to people like the girl in the video, look at the bigger picture and you see the malicious intent behind its implementation. Read some George Orwell

    • @bradenross4182
      @bradenross4182 5 лет назад +6

      @@doomshot7324 for the cost of freedom?

    • @thee_morpheus
      @thee_morpheus 5 лет назад +3

      Ding ding ding, a diversion

  • @davidmoss2576
    @davidmoss2576 2 года назад +4

    US is doing it too, just not telling you

  • @pzyqux6641
    @pzyqux6641 2 года назад +589

    "what is weird, is that so many people seem okay with it." Yeah, you would have to be very brave to disagree with the ccp in public.

    • @alfaseeds13
      @alfaseeds13 2 года назад +39

      They literally interviewed by NBC one of the largest media company in america, and this stupid journalist thinking they would critize the ccp openly with their face in HD camera lol

    • @chiangmei1265
      @chiangmei1265 2 года назад +3

      I feel like people dont have right in west taiwan , as taiwanese im sad for those west taiwanese

    • @Volnixz
      @Volnixz 2 года назад +1

      @@chiangmei1265 Sorry to hear that. Do know that a big portion of the world is watching closely at China's actions. There's always hope.

    • @thanh6523
      @thanh6523 2 года назад +1

      @@Volnixz When will you westerners stop interfering with other countries’s business ?

    • @a1t168
      @a1t168 2 года назад

      That's why China will overtake USA

  • @KodeLiMe
    @KodeLiMe 5 лет назад +908

    "She likes it."
    Of course she does, she HAS to!

    • @hairbeauty8083
      @hairbeauty8083 4 года назад +44

      So many people are missing this point!! These people are kept in check, told what to do, what to like/dislike, who to interact with, what to believe.

    • @xiaominglee801
      @xiaominglee801 4 года назад

      能不装逼吗?还has to?

    • @RandomAwesomeism
      @RandomAwesomeism 4 года назад +2

      @@xiaominglee801 他就是说,政府要求你支持

    • @Zekrom569
      @Zekrom569 4 года назад +1

      Well, i guess it is that, but also it might be stockholm syndrome

    • @gsosa40
      @gsosa40 4 года назад +4

      Her social credit score will go down if she doesn't like it. She's being watched 24/7. Wake Up America!

  • @skittlz111
    @skittlz111 5 лет назад +2464

    So let me get this straight;
    If I am a person who works a 40 hour a week job, is nice and amicable to everyone, pays my taxes on time and maybe even does some community service, my "social credit score" can and will go down if I decide to use my leasuire time to play video games?
    Doesn't sound like a system I want to live under

    • @tommy7830
      @tommy7830 4 года назад +310

      Or buying video games, what does that have to do with morality? The whole thing is dogshit obviously but even in their twisted view what is video games effect

    • @ajsmith8587
      @ajsmith8587 4 года назад +169

      @@tommy7830 it's not about morality lolol. If people play video games they spend less time doing productive things like working at a job or whatnot, which is bad for the economy and etc. Obv the gov doesn't like it.

    • @Twoideas915
      @Twoideas915 4 года назад +17

      You just described our social score

    • @David24476
      @David24476 4 года назад +36

      It wouldn't hurt your score too much as long as you don't play video games and drink a beer at the same time.

    • @lass1234
      @lass1234 4 года назад +92

      There is this trick everytime you buy a beer or video game you ALWAYS BUY BABY DIAPER WITH IT

  • @rozlincoln3568
    @rozlincoln3568 2 года назад +9

    You said the word “freedom”
    -50,000 credits

  • @the_real_swiper
    @the_real_swiper 2 года назад +376

    4. Juny 1989? Nothing happened!
    Social Score: +15 points

    • @yangleezhao5847
      @yangleezhao5847 2 года назад +20

      No, students were massacred because freedom of speech and protesting is not allowed. +79 social credit score

    • @chronosbat
      @chronosbat 2 года назад +63

      @@yangleezhao5847 Speaking English. -520 credit score.

    • @reveluvji8743
      @reveluvji8743 2 года назад +2

      @@chronosbat lmao not the "520"💀

    • @legoman8960
      @legoman8960 2 года назад +11

      @@yangleezhao5847 -1,000,000 social score

    • @brynthmacoto1258
      @brynthmacoto1258 2 года назад +4

      hong kong is part of china +500 sc

  • @Toophunn
    @Toophunn 5 лет назад +1389

    Scammers be like:
    Free Social Credit Generator

    • @david-ql2ge
      @david-ql2ge 5 лет назад +59

      Forever L wtf who’s talking about that

    • @johnatangonzalez9099
      @johnatangonzalez9099 5 лет назад +12

      @Forever L I hope the come to Venezuela, if you like socialism too much we can trade places if you want.

    • @maxkasmir
      @maxkasmir 5 лет назад +36

      @Forever L r/NobodyAsked

    • @Yespeacsignplz
      @Yespeacsignplz 5 лет назад +19

      Commentors be like: thats so crazy
      Forever L: Did you know that the US used crazy bombs to cause the first crazy person?
      Did you know the US sued the world health fund for spreading crazy?
      Did you know the US created breakfast cereal to control your mind?

    • @gtamonkey3061
      @gtamonkey3061 5 лет назад +23

      Forever L bet they gave you 10 credit to write this

  • @savexme
    @savexme 4 года назад +870

    The fact that the system knows when you’ve been spreading rumors is honestly terrifying

    • @jonathanjeffrymulyana4390
      @jonathanjeffrymulyana4390 4 года назад +14

      No, this is pretty common to prevent terrorism and crime and have proven to be effective

    • @Imansportfolio
      @Imansportfolio 3 года назад +1

      @Ar S palestine*

    • @mcmilk107
      @mcmilk107 3 года назад +96

      @@jonathanjeffrymulyana4390 Even if this stopped every crime imaginable this type of system would not be worth it.

    • @mafismathis8012
      @mafismathis8012 3 года назад +3

      this likely means fake news online... like posting extremism things... like separatism, terrorism, etc

    • @wiizero4422
      @wiizero4422 2 года назад

      @@mafismathis8012 You don't think china is seperatist?

  • @jar8808
    @jar8808 2 года назад +13

    If EA was China they'd be like
    "Buy 2x for 1 Week for only $500 Dollars!"

  • @saulgoodman7139
    @saulgoodman7139 4 года назад +2212

    Imagine being a farmer. You wake up before the crack of dawn everyday and get ready for the day. You go out to your fields as soon as the sun comes up. Things aren’t looking too good. Lack of rain, insects, you name it. You reach your boiling point and start swearing and getting hot headed. Uh oh. You just lost social credit points for that. Now you can’t go out of town to get whatever you need that could help your farm. Oops.

    • @chimerablack4913
      @chimerablack4913 4 года назад +236

      The genius of communism.

    • @ipekaktas127
      @ipekaktas127 3 года назад +106

      its so messed up to be honest

    • @oscarchute5702
      @oscarchute5702 3 года назад +53

      The social credit score of the farmer in your example will suffer if the 'lady enforcer' catches him. Surveillance cameras are mostly found in cities and towns not in remote areas. So, I think the farmer will not lose any point.

    • @robertmartinez7307
      @robertmartinez7307 3 года назад +86

      @@oscarchute5702 what a complete chode you are for even remotely supporting this.

    • @nischaymiglani2617
      @nischaymiglani2617 3 года назад +41

      @@oscarchute5702 didn't you know that Chinese government had already installed cameras in majority of farms in china ?

  • @zach7855
    @zach7855 2 года назад +570

    The only reason they’re saying the system is great is that they would lose a ton of social credit if they said it was bad.

    • @Maid-Saikoudaze
      @Maid-Saikoudaze 2 года назад +46

      Or they are brainwashed

    • @samkimball9085
      @samkimball9085 2 года назад +41

      @@Maid-Saikoudaze Probably both

    • @kurimuncher6142
      @kurimuncher6142 2 года назад +24

      They realize their being monitored as they speak!

    • @kingkongchief1177
      @kingkongchief1177 2 года назад

      And they’d be arrested cause there’s no freedom of speech in China

    • @jslee132
      @jslee132 Год назад +12

      Imagine they said it sucked and that aired on tv... now on the blacklist

  • @Chuwie
    @Chuwie 5 лет назад +403

    The snitches even have quotas
    this is messed up

    • @PrmtymeTheGamer84
      @PrmtymeTheGamer84 5 лет назад +19

      They need to snitch 50 times a month or else....

    • @user-ci9sb5wp3v
      @user-ci9sb5wp3v 5 лет назад +3

      It's a self imposed 'quota' 🙄
      Also, it's good things and bad

    • @samwestminster9135
      @samwestminster9135 5 лет назад +7

      Didn’t it say that she was snitching on a man that was cursing?
      Don’t we all have our bad days?
      Aren’t we allowed to relieve some of our stress from a bad day?
      This doesn’t make someone a bad person, only shows that people can have bad days

    • @Wetsloppytomatoes
      @Wetsloppytomatoes 5 лет назад

      The CIA had or still does a program like this. I can't remember.

    • @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
      @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 5 лет назад

      @@samwestminster9135 just imagine your whole live, working and grinding, then one day you crash, you would've chill out, and release the anger.. Then your neighbour snitches on you, and all comes crashing down, then for what did he work for?

  • @joeclark7298
    @joeclark7298 2 года назад +10

    At 6:57 the guy answering that question looked like he was responding as carefully as he possibly could lmao

  • @WickedGamez
    @WickedGamez 5 лет назад +1307

    Reporter : do you think this is a good idea?
    Citizen: yes absolutely “winks at security camera”

    • @stefanx8344
      @stefanx8344 5 лет назад +29

      LOL

    • @phillip6131
      @phillip6131 5 лет назад +11

      You are a genius

    • @First-Last-108
      @First-Last-108 5 лет назад +5

      If this can stop almost all crime, I don't think this is such a crazy idea. I kinda want this in America

    • @stefanx8344
      @stefanx8344 5 лет назад +51

      @@First-Last-108 yeah but "crime" will most likely include disagreeing with the government in china!

    • @alphen9487
      @alphen9487 5 лет назад +25

      @@First-Last-108 I think you should watch the black mirror episode "nosedive" if you haven't already. It's super similar to this. I don't think you would want it if you watch the episode

  • @terra69
    @terra69 2 года назад +1351

    I was laughing about the memes, then now sad after watching this.

    • @cubepiano4630
      @cubepiano4630 2 года назад +16

      same exact thing for me

    • @nicre133
      @nicre133 2 года назад +139

      you laughed? at memes? -3000 social credit

    • @decay144
      @decay144 2 года назад +37

      @@nicre133 taiwan is not a country

    • @david-rd2qc
      @david-rd2qc 2 года назад +21

      @@decay144 xi jinping is more peaceful than ghandi 😃

    • @yuuhemi
      @yuuhemi 2 года назад +26

      @@decay144 +10 social credits

  • @truthseeker4504
    @truthseeker4504 5 лет назад +477

    I DO NOT CONSENT!! This is real life not some BLACK MIRROR experiment.

    • @Pewpewpew1991
      @Pewpewpew1991 5 лет назад

      no it real life IS

    • @Wamsuo58u
      @Wamsuo58u 5 лет назад +11

      @杨健 what about the ugyurs and human rights activists surely you know what happens to them.

    • @santiagorappy71
      @santiagorappy71 5 лет назад +1

      @@Wamsuo58u nobody has consistent proves about whether something is happening in Xinjiang or not, it can be true, it can be fake news too (no wonder)

    • @Wamsuo58u
      @Wamsuo58u 5 лет назад +2

      @@santiagorappy71 why don't you go there oh wait once you get in there's no getting out!

    • @santiagorappy71
      @santiagorappy71 5 лет назад +1

      @@Wamsuo58u? A lot of people has gone to Xinjiang, so your comment is nonsense

  • @itsme-gm9oi
    @itsme-gm9oi 2 года назад +12

    It would be naieve to think that this system wont be coming to western countries soon...

    • @jonalderson5571
      @jonalderson5571 2 года назад +1

      Luckily we have something called the US constitution

    • @auhsojacosta1672
      @auhsojacosta1672 2 года назад

      Breaking news:
      *United States constitution stolen*

  • @rahulrajala1166
    @rahulrajala1166 5 лет назад +715

    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
    -Ben Franklin

    • @amosthemagician
      @amosthemagician 5 лет назад +18

      @@dordly bro this the second dumb comment you made. Just leave this video please.

    • @YusuphYT
      @YusuphYT 5 лет назад +1

      Amos Wilborn He did make a dumb comment but he’s right.

    • @phannypack3951
      @phannypack3951 5 лет назад +4

      Unarmed sheep are the first to die.

    • @amosthemagician
      @amosthemagician 5 лет назад +1

      @BitterVoid Bro, what? Are all of yall stupid

    • @michaelsladnick5482
      @michaelsladnick5482 5 лет назад +2

      @@haofu173 Franklin didn't own slaves...the American Revolution in the northern colonies was the first movement in the world to declare the abolition of slavery, but they allied with the southern states in the war against Britain and to put up a united front against the colonial powers in general.

  • @jasonr3862
    @jasonr3862 5 лет назад +311

    It's alarming to see these young people attempt to justify this... and correlating this score with being a good person, very alarming.

    • @theodorbutters141
      @theodorbutters141 5 лет назад +7

      @Varoom Zazoom Except the SJWs that want to shift the balance in favour of diversity and equality (both contradictory terms) represent a small minority of the population (they're mostly white upper middle class ironically). Most of the population HAS to live a life of responsibility, not victimhood to survive in a free economy. The small minority of people advocating for victimhood culture are ironically priveleged enough to be in a position where they don't need to be responsible due to nepotism or just being spoilled in their childhood.

    • @theodorbutters141
      @theodorbutters141 5 лет назад +3

      @Varoom Zazoom The Media, Political class and universities do not represent the entire country.... their values are not alligned with that of the majority, which is a major reason why Trump won, despite having no political background.

    • @delic.
      @delic. 5 лет назад +3

      I think the system is fine, other than the fact that there in no way to opt out unless you move.
      But in such a small place with such a large population they need a system.

    • @lucianraphael9527
      @lucianraphael9527 5 лет назад +2

      Nick Goertzen you’re stupid

    • @yiginger8057
      @yiginger8057 5 лет назад +1

      because China does not have a credit system. The score 753 on video is from Alibaba. A private company

  • @jay-zdenton6094
    @jay-zdenton6094 4 года назад +739

    "Give me liberty, or give me death!"
    -Patrick Henry

    • @andi2658
      @andi2658 4 года назад +7

      the thing is, while a very strict system that has those 'enforcers' unwatched, is dangerous (eg: she can blackmail people if she wants to, or become unjust themselves)
      the other side of the coin , 'liberty' , is also not very ideal if people took it too far (eg: anarchy, or simply provocators everywhere bashing one group against the other)
      the middle ground is the solution. The problem is, people distort 'the middle point' especially when their own personal bias (eg: greed, selfish) takes place

    • @Ozymandias1
      @Ozymandias1 4 года назад +9

      @@andi2658 China executes people who are corrupt. So that should serve as a deterrant.

    • @maxpower1337
      @maxpower1337 4 года назад +1

      @@andi2658 definitely that's human nature it will happen.

    • @jjshaw8360
      @jjshaw8360 4 года назад +15

      It will never fail to make me laugh that that phrase was uttered by a man who owned slaves.

    • @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
      @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 4 года назад +10

      "Give me liberty, or give me death!"
      Chinese gov: "I see it as an absolute win"
      *continue to crush students protest with tanks*

  • @user-xm5gp8fg3g
    @user-xm5gp8fg3g 2 года назад +9

    Coming soon to the US

  • @zeroproof8723
    @zeroproof8723 5 лет назад +237

    I was firmly against the stop snitchin thing when they were protecting murderers. But turning in people for mismanaging money, practicing religion, and having political ideals is ridiculous.

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад +7

      Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
      神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
      We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
      If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .

    • @avgvstvs7
      @avgvstvs7 4 года назад

      @@condorX2 robot

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 4 года назад +1

      @@avgvstvs7 Nah. I'm just a gamer. You can check out my ad free videos via my profile.
      Anyway, please read this and get some idea on what's happening in Western media in your country.
      Why do people still think Chinese government is tyrannical while many Chinese people are very satisfied with the government themselves (and know what it’s like in the west)?
      Most people in UK, US, Australia, and Canada hold the view that the Chinese people have been brainwashed by the CPC and Chinese State media and agencies.
      It is ironic that the same people in UK, US, Australia, and Canada have no awareness that they themselves have been brainwashed and conditioned by their own mass media exemplified by Fox, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, NY Post, and so on concerning matters relating to Chinese people. They know little why the Chinese people are largely satisfied with their everyday lives. Some 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of abject poverty in 40 years, and the 200 million middle-class Chinese are growing in size and wealth. Well, you have seen a horde of Chinese tourists invading your big cities, haven’t you? Are they all fake Chinese tourists, maybe S.Koreans, Japanese and Vietnamese masquerading as Chinese? Is the money they are spending to help propel your country’s economy also fake? Yeah, right.
      The Chinese people are happy to have Freedom from gun violence, Freedom from drug trafficking, Freedom to walk the streets of Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen without fear of molestation at 2am, and Freedom from politicians like Trump mouthing off fake news with impunity.
      Source
      qr.ae/Taeosv

  • @jayg339
    @jayg339 3 года назад +521

    Well this is completely terrifying. Also, you cannot take those interviewee’s opinions verbatim - they are on camera with their face visible and they are clearly going to say whatever they think the CCP wants to hear and what will benefit their credit score on a personal level. Beneath the surface, I bet people are terrified but just do not know what to do.

    • @mattneko4225
      @mattneko4225 2 года назад +3

      You’ve got to be crazy!

    • @jayg339
      @jayg339 2 года назад +1

      @@mattneko4225 Dogs! 🐕

    • @jizalahbdid3625
      @jizalahbdid3625 2 года назад +10

      Unfortunately, I doubt that these people disagree with this system beneath the surface. They were born into a society in which personal privacy rights were already being encroached upon. They also all have good social credit scores; humans tend to like things they’re good at. History has shown that people who are oppressed tend to agree with their oppressors actions.

    • @Co-ordinator
      @Co-ordinator 2 года назад +1

      @@mattneko4225 -5000000 social credits!!

    • @AdmiralSloth
      @AdmiralSloth 2 года назад +1

      This is just like Animals; your profile photo.

  • @tomservo5007
    @tomservo5007 5 лет назад +485

    Hong Kong, let's hope your backbone spreads to the mainland.

    • @gendoruwo6322
      @gendoruwo6322 5 лет назад +19

      Nah, no way it will spread to mainland.
      Live long enough in prison, you'll start to love it like it is your home.

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад +5

      Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
      神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
      We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
      If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .

    • @johnborden9208
      @johnborden9208 4 года назад +9

      You can bet the people of Hong Kong wish they had our SECOND AMENDMENT!

    • @infinity4evr
      @infinity4evr 4 года назад +7

      @@condorX2
      Yeah, there's always a hook ins't there? a way to justify a future misdeed. No control, no matter how altruistic the motive, can be justified when perpetrated over other people. Control of humans against humans is completely Godless, and a violation of supreme law and human rights.

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 4 года назад

      @Slavic Science gotta watch em all wumao parrots.

  • @PokeDude011
    @PokeDude011 2 года назад +9

    Winnie the Pooh
    *SOCIAL CREDIT DECREASED*

  • @ronniedarko2536
    @ronniedarko2536 5 лет назад +971

    Watch Dog mixed with Black Mirror type of society

    • @jahjoeka
      @jahjoeka 5 лет назад +20

      Its like this anime im watching again called Psycho Pass.

    • @nathanking6670
      @nathanking6670 5 лет назад +6

      Or the movie ‘In Time’.

    • @jessicamullins5006
      @jessicamullins5006 5 лет назад +4

      @@jahjoeka literally about to comment Black Mirror episode

    • @First-Last-108
      @First-Last-108 5 лет назад +4

      I’d rather have good people loose privacy than bad people get away with bad actions

    • @FuhrerHeisen
      @FuhrerHeisen 5 лет назад +6

      First Last than you’re a sheep who will help facilitate the downfall of all freedoms

  • @youwild00
    @youwild00 5 лет назад +321

    Of course the girl with the 752 score would like it, it benefits her but if she had a 470 than I bet she wouldn't like it as much

    • @3goats1coat
      @3goats1coat 5 лет назад +75

      We got no idea if she likes it. She said what has to be said to soften the repercussions of even talking to a western media. Saying anything bad about the social credit system is a sure way of a

    • @youwild00
      @youwild00 5 лет назад +9

      @@3goats1coat You got a point there

    • @boulderbash19700209
      @boulderbash19700209 5 лет назад +8

      Be a sheeple, and it's all sunshine and rainbows.

    • @daletang6054
      @daletang6054 5 лет назад +7

      You are mislead by CNBC. Alipay score is a foot print according your behavior in buying or loaning with Alibaba Apps. You can have 0 score if you did not any activity in this apps. So what? Even you may uninstall the apps and no any problems. But why do you call it social credit system like every one has been engaged in it? It is not the trues.

    • @shmookins
      @shmookins 5 лет назад +2

      @@boulderbash19700209 Right up to the slaughter...

  • @daddylonglegs3698
    @daddylonglegs3698 5 лет назад +555

    1984: *Exists.*
    China: Can I copy your homework.
    1984: Ok, just make it different.
    China: Ok. *Makes the social credit system.*

  • @7b4Tomorrow
    @7b4Tomorrow 2 года назад +11

    It’s sad they can’t be truly honest when they were interviewed

  • @MrMo3big
    @MrMo3big 5 лет назад +843

    THE PART WHERE THEY SAY WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS SYSTEM ITS MORE LIKE YOU BETTER BE OKAY WITH THE SYSTEM OR YOUR GOING MISSING

    • @Doofwarrior88
      @Doofwarrior88 5 лет назад +64

      "Yeah I am okay with it." Shifty eyes and sweating bullets.

    • @wanking5425
      @wanking5425 5 лет назад +12

      Resistance is futile!

    • @RazsterTW
      @RazsterTW 5 лет назад +3

      Forget that noise! Screw SCS. I would rebel.

    • @miket4234
      @miket4234 5 лет назад +1

      *you’re

    • @duckking09
      @duckking09 5 лет назад +11

      "I don't like it" score drops to 350

  • @tucker2251
    @tucker2251 5 лет назад +217

    "for some reason everyone I talk to seems to like the social credit system"
    Well obviously they cant just walk around bad mouthing the social credit system or else they will lose their social credit, ESPECIALLY if they bad mouth it to the American media.

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 5 лет назад +6

      That's true! And possibly idealistic, if they are young and haven't seen the real world of their Gov't Corruption and injustice!
      Chinese Gov't had found another way to muzzle its people!

    • @michaelfitz56
      @michaelfitz56 5 лет назад

      Lenita A At least you can move around without the fear of been robbed, or get shoot up in the schools malls etc.

  • @bluwolf098
    @bluwolf098 5 лет назад +601

    Omg this is like 1984, like wtf

    • @c.l.1820
      @c.l.1820 5 лет назад +2

      @@wowmindesdye4043 bingo. Frogs.

    • @gehesnuts2444
      @gehesnuts2444 5 лет назад +2

      @@wowmindesdye4043 orwell was a socialist though 😕 and he was warning about oligarchs

    • @Arm6nn
      @Arm6nn 5 лет назад

      Any other ideas for how to maintain law and order in a country of 1.4 billion? Durr durr

    • @Contact_Info
      @Contact_Info 5 лет назад

      Wake up! Its getting worse.

    • @ftsa6654
      @ftsa6654 5 лет назад +2

      or like the us credit system, pretty much the same thing

  • @alwaysstrength_
    @alwaysstrength_ 2 года назад +33

    "I play minecraft 10 hours a day"
    *-300,000,000,000 social credit 😠*

  • @tangyorange6509
    @tangyorange6509 5 лет назад +219

    This is crazy. It’s literally, 1984.

    • @cindydo8781
      @cindydo8781 5 лет назад

      USA

    • @johnames6430
      @johnames6430 5 лет назад +5

      if you think that's bad you should see how much google knows about you. They know everywhere you went if you have google apps on your phone.

    • @First-Last-108
      @First-Last-108 5 лет назад

      Why is something that can stop almost all crime so crazy?

    • @drive-thru9169
      @drive-thru9169 5 лет назад

      LOL

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter 5 лет назад +3

      @@First-Last-108
      You people are indeed naive like 3 yo old toddler

  • @jds189
    @jds189 4 года назад +606

    4:00 this is every Karen's ultimate dream

    • @royal3rabeats637
      @royal3rabeats637 3 года назад +30

      Wet dream

    • @samriwelkeish7981
      @samriwelkeish7981 3 года назад +14

      So noisy.

    • @Lesrevesdhiver
      @Lesrevesdhiver 3 года назад +9

      Like the kind of erotic fantasy that people have but do not even talk about because it is so private and outlandish.

    • @oilylondon
      @oilylondon 3 года назад +2

      @@samriwelkeish7981 heyy bestie

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 2 года назад +2

      A friend of mine was friends with an info collector and she said that they get harshly penalised if a report of bad behaviour turns out to be false.

  • @PeterMasalski93
    @PeterMasalski93 4 года назад +496

    This will end up in revolution...I can feel it..

    • @Guccius_Maximus
      @Guccius_Maximus 4 года назад +61

      I really hope it does but it doesn't seem like it will happen anytime soon. The ccp is a virus and the world will better off without it

    • @paymans1153
      @paymans1153 4 года назад +33

      Not in China. People are too brainwashed for that. It'll take much more than that for that to happen...

    • @dxsolate
      @dxsolate 4 года назад +3

      Payman S *Maybe with the help of other countries?*

    • @mravocadotoast8129
      @mravocadotoast8129 4 года назад +4

      It wont hit the US because America is to scared to take our guns and if they don't there will be a revolution anyways

    • @oscarchute5702
      @oscarchute5702 3 года назад +3

      According to a Harvard University study in 2016, the CCP has an approval rating of 93 percent. This study was conducted on 31,000 individual interviews by Ash Center China led by Program Director Robert Cunningham. Revolution not coming in China any time soon.

  • @marklegendgangmei
    @marklegendgangmei 10 месяцев назад +5

    In the United States it is known as Credit Score. Stay away from misinformation.

    • @lalalalala7779
      @lalalalala7779 10 месяцев назад +3

      credit score in the us has barely any effect in day-to-day life

    • @Heartnet-yq6dq
      @Heartnet-yq6dq 4 месяца назад

      @@lalalalala7779same in China…

  • @jacobkhu-oldacc.4491
    @jacobkhu-oldacc.4491 5 лет назад +388

    Black Mirror Nosedive.
    Based on a true story.
    IN CHINA.

    • @christopherabraham
      @christopherabraham 5 лет назад +3

      I was literally thinking about nosedive the entire time watching this omg

    • @ariastrwn7933
      @ariastrwn7933 5 лет назад

      Yeah dude, I give you 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @doemijmaarfriet
    @doemijmaarfriet 5 лет назад +148

    everyone who says something bad about the credit system -200 points /resistence is futile

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад

      Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
      神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
      We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
      If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .

    • @janetteniles4396
      @janetteniles4396 5 лет назад +5

      @@condorX2 I bet THAT promo gave YOU a very large social credit bonus.. even Pavlovs dog got fed when the bell rang. 😒

    • @MM-pv5tp
      @MM-pv5tp Год назад

      This is a horrid comment. Stop mocking a cruel, dehumanizing system.

  • @TsetsiStoyanova
    @TsetsiStoyanova 5 лет назад +226

    This is beyond crazy and invasive. Watch out, its coming here too!

    • @user-lu6yg3vk9z
      @user-lu6yg3vk9z 4 года назад +8

      5G towers are being built rapidly through this pandemic.

    • @alexisd6106
      @alexisd6106 3 года назад +10

      Ehhh maybe not in the same way. We're not a communist country like they are.

    • @SaraH-jn5db
      @SaraH-jn5db 3 года назад +4

      It is here. The US has had credit scores longer than China. Anything you dont pay back on time because you can't drops your score, you can also drop it by breaking the law bc you can't pay bills from prison. If you have a bad credit score you can't get a car, a house, an education. How are we not at least partially there yet?

    • @followerofthekoronecult
      @followerofthekoronecult 3 года назад +30

      @@SaraH-jn5db you are kinda d*mb to compare credit score to social credit. Credit score is black and white, while social credit is in the grey area. Social credit requires you to pay back your debt (aka financial obligations). Meanwhile the social credit score rate you on whatever you do, including your private life, what you post online, what you spent time on, where/how you spent your money, etc. Moreover, the CCP can publicly shame you with your ID and address on the big screens. Also, China have an unelected government body (CCP), do you think the CCP will be fair on assigning scores to those they dislike?

    • @colbythom223
      @colbythom223 3 года назад +3

      @@followerofthekoronecult not that dumb or stretch to compare them. The current credit score could be turned into the social score. (that might be how they spin it to low credit people). companies like freecreditreport.com already give you a credit "boost" for linking your bank account so they can track your spending and see your financial data. like who you pay first and what you prioritize. the current US credit score is from 3 main "credit bureaus" which are already private companies, thats just acouple corporate mergers away from being fully linked to your social media.

  • @COMMANDO21B
    @COMMANDO21B 2 года назад +5

    Now its coming to the US via the “covid passport”

  • @okayyyy8028
    @okayyyy8028 5 лет назад +2099

    "Information collector" ? you mean a rat

    • @garcvict
      @garcvict 5 лет назад +87

      OKAYYYY - AKA “Snitches”

    • @Goneout2eat
      @Goneout2eat 5 лет назад +8

      Your profile pic freaked me out for a sec... thought there was a bug on my screen haha

    • @jl9554
      @jl9554 5 лет назад +7

      @@garcvict literally informants.

    • @Suomi91
      @Suomi91 5 лет назад +10

      Yes, a snitch.

    • @FlamingoVlogs
      @FlamingoVlogs 5 лет назад +1

      OKAYYYY 🐀

  • @aznwilly8013
    @aznwilly8013 5 лет назад +28

    The public-shaming thing just makes it all medieval.

  • @Alpha-Ultra
    @Alpha-Ultra 5 лет назад +623

    I'm glad I can live in America where I can talk smack about my government's corruption, and still go to work come home without g men giving me a hard time

    • @raidenstark315
      @raidenstark315 5 лет назад +34

      Let me guess you're a fat blue collar

    • @effiodiego
      @effiodiego 5 лет назад +6

      @Box Addict RFID is literally only able to be detected from literal centimeters away

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz 5 лет назад +14

      Hehehe... just go to a Trump rally wearing a rainbow shirt without a MAGA hat, see how long it takes before a Trumpette gives you a smack-down.

    • @Alpha-Ultra
      @Alpha-Ultra 5 лет назад +2

      @@raidenstark315 naw I'm just a troll wasting your time while I take dumps

    • @MyEpiphany430
      @MyEpiphany430 5 лет назад +14

      You're sadly mistaken. Whatever negative or controversial statements you make on social media in the U.S. will negatively affect your job, livelihood and social standing. College admissions and prospective employers will go through your FB, IG, and Twitter accounts before selecting you.

  • @bconlon13
    @bconlon13 Год назад +4

    Craziest part is 70% of Americans will accept this without question.

  • @lucasrobin2788
    @lucasrobin2788 5 лет назад +238

    Oh my god, this is Black Mirror’s Nosedive in real life

    • @PrmtymeTheGamer84
      @PrmtymeTheGamer84 5 лет назад +6

      Exactly and this wont end will. Tech will catch and the we are in a cyberpunk type reality. I saw in about 200 years

    • @ariastrwn7933
      @ariastrwn7933 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, I give you 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
      Please give me back 5 stars
      My rating : 3,9

    • @barrygoldwater9450
      @barrygoldwater9450 5 лет назад +1

      Yep, facebook was created as a means to operate such a system. Black mirror based the episode off of all the government white papers outlining the plan for global dominance and total social control.

  • @SuperRadChad
    @SuperRadChad 3 года назад +113

    glad to see that 99% of the comments are against such authoritarian overreach

    • @akrama225
      @akrama225 2 года назад

      It's common sense lol
      -500 social credit

    • @sereneorb
      @sereneorb 2 года назад

      WHAT??? 100% OF US ARE against CCP

  • @w3n33dam1racl3
    @w3n33dam1racl3 2 года назад +224

    This is real - life "Big Brother is watching you". It basically takes away your right to privacy, your reputation, and way of living. Basically if you don't behave the way we want or think the way we want, your social credit score goes down. This is utterly terrifying and if people don't stand up it will come here.

    • @aptspikeybird1005
      @aptspikeybird1005 2 года назад +4

      I watched the movie for 1984 today

    • @cheftodaydjtomorrow410
      @cheftodaydjtomorrow410 2 года назад

      Lol it will end in china

    • @marcusmeins1839
      @marcusmeins1839 2 года назад

      @@Kevin-ez4th all countries do the same however, in China you could lose everything for stupid reasons .

    • @anilanoorjahan4559
      @anilanoorjahan4559 2 года назад

      Imagine the corrupt government you disagree with them they put you on blacklist! You voted for the other party you are blacklisted! You don't want to sell your land to the corrupt corporation you are blacklisted! You can say goodbye to your freedom!

    • @Chocolatesauce81
      @Chocolatesauce81 Год назад +5

      It’s already on its way

  • @isShit-xr9sw
    @isShit-xr9sw 2 года назад +22

    "Mao Zedong was the worst human ever"
    Social credit: Execution

  • @romantisanon4647
    @romantisanon4647 3 года назад +149

    This is one of the most predatory and anti-human systems I have ever seen in play

    • @m_t_t_
      @m_t_t_ 2 года назад +20

      😡🤬🤬😡🤬😡😡👎👎-5000 🇨🇳credit 坏公民

    • @romantisanon4647
      @romantisanon4647 2 года назад +6

      @@m_t_t_ 您好中国,我是约翰·塞纳(John Cena)。 我现在必须说,在《速度与激情9》中,我有很多很多采访。 在其中一个中,我犯了一个错误。 每个人都问我是否可以使用中文。 Fast&Furious 9的人给了我很多信息。 嗯...我弄错了。 我现在必须说,这是如此重要如此重要。 我爱并尊重中国和中国人民。 我为自己的错误感到非常抱歉。 抱歉。 抱歉。 我很抱歉。 您必须了解,我爱并尊重中国和中国人民。 抱歉。

    • @quickzero289
      @quickzero289 2 года назад +6

      @Romantis Anon bing chilling
      🍦

    • @280Names
      @280Names 2 года назад +1

      -100 social credit

    • @yeltsakcir8468
      @yeltsakcir8468 2 года назад

      @@romantisanon4647 More like Zhong Xina

  • @ireneblack7526
    @ireneblack7526 4 года назад +49

    Goverment playing sims with the citizens... terrifying

  • @conormcgregorwasnevermyfri1984
    @conormcgregorwasnevermyfri1984 2 года назад +68

    “You’re not going to be punished if you haven’t done anything wrong.”
    Translation: we will do whatever we want to you and you will thank us for it

  • @Cypher791
    @Cypher791 Год назад +6

    I seen an old twilight zone episode like this, guy had a mark on his forehead that forbids anyone from talking to him. When anyone seen it they backed away, afraid of the consequences. His family, friends, colleagues, strangers, even the doctors at the hospital all refused to speak to him because he had the mark of shame. 😐

  • @williamcalabrese4966
    @williamcalabrese4966 5 лет назад +283

    “Imaging a world where everything you do is tracked”.
    Alexa ... “HELLO”

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад +2

      Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
      神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
      We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
      If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .

    • @rafe5556
      @rafe5556 4 года назад

      @@condorX2 lol

    • @Zekrom569
      @Zekrom569 4 года назад

      @@condorX2 Well, you shouldnt depend on the government to enforce specific behaviours on adults so that they dont behave moronically overseas...Also it can happen with those that have good social credit scores to go overseas and misbehave because of the country they are into...Usually most people follow the norms of each specific country, if the majority of the citizens are litering and doing other such stuff, of course sometime the Chinese person might get tempted to do the same, especially if most of the time locals are doing it(like jaywalking in Greece)

    • @jayjjoshi
      @jayjjoshi 4 года назад

      FU Alexa I am try to do conversation

    • @orangutan324
      @orangutan324 3 года назад

      Sorry, Siri knows everything you do. So is uncle Sam.

  • @door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978
    @door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978 5 лет назад +294

    China is an IRL RPG. You need grind scores to level up and unlock perks.

    • @Brandon-uy1uv
      @Brandon-uy1uv 5 лет назад +28

      this actually seems like they are bringing Psycho Pass to real life. it's an anime

    • @acenosce3334
      @acenosce3334 5 лет назад +5

      @@generalaccount6531 the only way to exit is to die

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад

      Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
      神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
      We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
      If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад

      @@acenosce3334 Hi, I wrote an essay for my school project. Please tell me what you think.
      I'm a western myself and I enjoy my freedom, but we must understand that China is not the west we grow up with.
      I'm not going to tell yall to look up China long history of civil wars or how many lives are lost to see China finally be unified.
      I won't ask yall to check how many countries that had invaded China or how they plunder China after poisoning them with opiums.
      I won't ask yall to check how many people try to sow discord to open the door to other civil war, but China is doing fine. They learned their lesson from their past and western countries past as well.
      This is why you rarely see China have mass shootings, bombs going off at a race game, air plans flew into buildings, air plans get hijacked, partian gridlock, recessions, the great depression, all sort of crisis, racial profiling, racism, business filing for bankruptcy left and right, 22 trillion in debts, more mass shootings in churches, schools, concert, movie theater, supermarket and those got affected will forever have their lives changed.
      Those never hear the sound of weapons of war will continue to live in borrowed time. They'll enjoy riding on a high horse by ignoring their own problems and make others their problems because they're so deep in ignorance.

    • @acenosce3334
      @acenosce3334 5 лет назад +1

      @@condorX2 don't you dare justify authoritarianism like that. wanna see a good example of authoritarianism gone wrong, go look at india's modi, he's obsessed with nuking iran and he's done the same things china has done

  • @BarryMaskell
    @BarryMaskell 5 лет назад +334

    Does everyone in China love the social credit system? “why wouldn’t we love it - we can’t leave home without it “

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 5 лет назад +7

      Check out this mind blowing respond from an intellect about the social credits system.
      神州 Shenzhou: And about the Social Credit System, foreigners often complain Chinese people are rude, spit in public, smoke in non-smoking areas, jump queues, occupy multiple seats, disobey traffic laws, jaywalk, speed past red lights, etc when's not all Chinese people are like that.
      We Chinese feel ashamed that such bad people represent China overseas, so the government come up with Social Credit System to penalise such bad behaviour and promote better behaviour instead. This is an meritocratic way to reward good behaviour and punish bad behaviour. But if they persist with bad behaviour until their scores fall to become unacceptable, then they will be barred from buying plane tickets to fly out of China and make nuisance of themselves overseas. At least until their scores improve until it becomes acceptable for them to travel again.
      If this system is ever extended to Hong Kong some day, then we might seem a marked improvement in social behaviour among the people of Hong Kong.. . .

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 4 года назад +18

      condorX2 as an American, we’re very opposed to the government doing this type of micromanaging, it should be through culture or upbringing, you shouldn’t just force someone to have good manners, let them do what they want usually they figure out the consequences on their own.

    • @longwlenguyen4214
      @longwlenguyen4214 4 года назад +12

      condorX2 you are sick you know that pretending everything is ok in reality the reason why the Chinese are nice because they are fear for their lives and their family.

    • @EricRomeoCooper
      @EricRomeoCooper 4 года назад +1

      Seems like when Asians have socialist governments they are mindless souless zombies but when they have free governments they our some of the most creative model citizens. Compare japan, south Korea or American Asians to like north Korea or china.

    • @RichardGilligan33
      @RichardGilligan33 4 года назад

      @@condorX2 sooo is it better m

  • @readerrabbit6690
    @readerrabbit6690 2 года назад +7

    How do you feel about the social credit system?
    "We can't complain!"
    So you like it???
    "No, we CAN'T complain"

  • @laurenkahre4785
    @laurenkahre4785 5 лет назад +46

    “Paid enforcer,” aka a spy. You know who else did that? The Gestapo.

    • @GosuTenshi
      @GosuTenshi 5 лет назад +4

      I know right. Minus 1000 points for hiding a Jew! Plus 1000 if you turn him in!

    • @markjacobs3898
      @markjacobs3898 5 лет назад

      Lauren Kahre China did have all three Abrahamic religions banned

    • @First-Last-108
      @First-Last-108 5 лет назад

      You know who else drank water? Hitler! Do you drink water?!

    • @qualitychannel1528
      @qualitychannel1528 5 лет назад +1

      Lauren Kahre The police is also a paid enforcer

  • @iCarlysmom
    @iCarlysmom 2 года назад +23

    You know what I think of this system?
    -10.000.000 Social Credit 😧

  • @sherwoodwolfpack7959
    @sherwoodwolfpack7959 5 лет назад +87

    Benjamin Franklin
    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ...

    • @neoepicurean3772
      @neoepicurean3772 4 года назад +5

      That's a bit of a silly quote, often misused and people that share often haven't thought about it. We have all given up some liberties to live in a safer society - that's actually the fundamental basis for society - and we're all better off for it.

    • @DacLMK
      @DacLMK 4 года назад +3

      Said the slave owner. Grow up and learn your history first and then criticize other nations.

    • @neoepicurean3772
      @neoepicurean3772 4 года назад +2

      @@DacLMK Was that comment aimed at me? I'm fully grown and I am pretty informed when it comes to history.

    • @DacLMK
      @DacLMK 4 года назад +2

      @@neoepicurean3772 Not you, the one who quoted Franklin.

    • @sunjanakulkarni3217
      @sunjanakulkarni3217 4 года назад +1

      I can easily see anti-maskers using this quote to justify themselves being selfish, so maybe not the best quote for all situations 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @chrissie3678
    @chrissie3678 2 года назад +3

    This is by far the scariest thing I’ve seen…. I can’t believe I’m just learning about this.

    • @marcusmeins1839
      @marcusmeins1839 2 года назад

      Be scared because there are politicians in American who want this and other countries too.

  • @yamnayaseed356
    @yamnayaseed356 3 года назад +68

    We all know every government is watering their mouth at a prospect like this. Imagine the ultimate control it gives.

  • @ignizxnr3021
    @ignizxnr3021 2 года назад +26

    Social credit is evil, chinese government should be destroyed for such an inhumane system

  • @redmend2793
    @redmend2793 2 года назад +68

    It’s like a real life black mirror story.

  • @tonycns
    @tonycns 2 года назад +5

    "West Taiwan is insane"
    -1 Trillion social credit and ☠

  • @stephaniestewart5697
    @stephaniestewart5697 5 лет назад +131

    Basically Black Mirror's Nose Dive episode....so sad its become real in a part of this world

    • @thee_morpheus
      @thee_morpheus 5 лет назад +1

      **Point loss theme**

    • @johnames6430
      @johnames6430 5 лет назад +5

      That's where Black Mirror got the idea, not the other way around!

    • @Zahiimchen
      @Zahiimchen 5 лет назад

      Community did it first actually.

    • @davidk.1917
      @davidk.1917 5 лет назад

      We have to stay diligent, it probably won't be long before this is being pushed on us too.

    • @hy128
      @hy128 5 лет назад

      As a Chinese m I can tell you it’s a fake news lol 😂

  • @Reikixu
    @Reikixu 5 лет назад +329

    God imagine our politicians had a social score, i wonder what there score would be.

    • @davidgramajo4145
      @davidgramajo4145 5 лет назад +1

      Ray x 😄👍🏻

    • @joeextraknow2854
      @joeextraknow2854 5 лет назад +14

      Very good one. Social score system shall apply to our politicians here.

    • @samstarr7766
      @samstarr7766 5 лет назад +24

      -5823

    • @marseillesvieux2987
      @marseillesvieux2987 5 лет назад +36

      Ray x you notice the system isn’t for the government, only the citizens.

    • @sgsggsgsshshs8900
      @sgsggsgsshshs8900 5 лет назад +5

      ez, they will use underhanded trick to keep their score high

  • @savedphelps8369
    @savedphelps8369 2 года назад +41

    4:05 lady literally has “Sus” written all over her door

  • @lizzienepia
    @lizzienepia 2 года назад +21

    Do we want to live like this? We need to ask ourselves if this is the life we want!! This is terrifying!!

    • @lofiboyM3P
      @lofiboyM3P Год назад

      I know righttt.. anywaysss drop that snap Lizzie