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Was finally time to come back around to this group, you all said we had to check out this powerful song and it was just that. We loved it, thanks for recommending it, what’s next?! 🙌🏻🔥
Don’t forget to check out Southern Man on CSNY’s Live 4 Way Street album....
You should see the footage of the Ohio shootings..they sing of-- it's so sad... This was really a time period of turmoil 🥺csny was fantastic 🎼🎹🎹✔️✔️
Wooden Ships--🎸
Teach your children well 🎸
Woodstock🎸
** NEXT the remake of Joni Mitchell's Woodstock is phenomenal
Our House
leslie rosenstrauch about Graham Nash and Joni Mitchell’s place.
David Crosby's anguished cry of "how many more" is one of the most genuine things you will ever hear in a pop song.
+1,000,000 ("how many more" is one of the most genuine things you will ever hear in a pop song.)
Followed by his anguished cries of "Why? Why?"
another one is Bob Dylan's: "Hurricane"...literally, the whole song !
@@gbsailing9436 A must do, a Racist City, and its Police Force takes the soon to be Champion of the World Boxer down by faking witness's and threats etc. And then years later 3 Canadian University students take their lives in their hands go to Patterson etc and continually fight for his release for years, finally getting the help they need to free him.
They also call out the names of those who died.
RIP Allison Beth Krause, Jeffrey Glenn Miller, Sandra Lee Scheuer, William Knox Schroeder. Not one over 20 years old. 💔
Thank you. Rarely do I see their names in print. Real people with real lives. 🙏
Amen and thank you for that.
May 4, 1970.
RIP Allison. My babysitter. This song has special significance for me.
Her spirit lives in you. Beautiful
The line “what if you knew her and found her dead on the ground” always gives me chills. RIP
I'm 67 now but still every time, no matter where I am, this song brings tears to my eyes.
I'm 67. And it does to me also.
I'm "only" 52, but I have the same reaction.
69 here. I understand. Imagine a high school grad listening to the radio that summer to see what your draft number was. We couldn’t all afford college. They send boys because men know better.
72 here, I still remember that day, and the song moves my heart to tears every time.
One young man was killed just walking to his car after a class. There is an iconic photo of a young woman, kneeling over a dead body. She's looking directly at the camera, screaming and crying. Absolutely terrified.
That young girl was actually only 14. SHe wasn't a student, just happened to be there. THere have been follow up stories on her - apparently that incident (and the photo) profounded traumatized her.
It was an iconic Life Magazine cover that inspired Young. And the song, with that image, moved the war protest mainstream. I was 8th grade or so, and angry my 9 years older sister wasn’t raging in the streets. But she was a home economics major... 🤪
That was Mary Ann Vecchio, and that photo won a Pulitzer prize. Imagine the trauma of being only 14 (in a MUCH less desensitized America than today) and seeing up close a young person being shot through the mouth. I don't know how I'd ever handle that.
All four who were killed had nothing to do with the protest. The guard fired over the heads of the people actually protesting but they were too stupid to realize they were firing up a hill. There was a parking lot at the top of the hill where students were walking. That's where the deaths and injuries occurred. A complete act of utter negligence.
@@tommybruner01 and nobody was ever convicted of anything except the protestors.
I was a little kid when this song first came on the car radio just a few weeks or months after the Kent State massacre, and I remember my dad (who was no fan of rock n' roll) pulled over to the side of the road, told us kids to be quiet, and listened intently. I think a lot of people who knew the story behind the song had a similar first reaction.
My entire family cried when we heard this...
That is a great story.
I believe they recorded and released the song in a week.
Man your story gave me some chills and made me tear up a little.
It is impossible to overstate the division in the country at that time. A national poll conducted shortly after Kent State showed that most Americans supported the National Guard. I later served in the Army as a volunteer when Vietnam was almost over. This country has not fought a war of necessity since WWII. America dishonors both its troops and its veterans when it continues to send us where we don't need to be.
My Dad WWII guy-that was where belonged. RIP 55K and survivors.
They could have used us in Rwanda, but I honestly don't know how much we would have helped. The fact is we just sat back and watched. BUT, I agree with your basic argument that we haven't fought a war of necessity since World War II.
Deplorable behaviour by the National Guard. Right-wing fascism hasn’t changed much. This could have been written during Trump’s “presidency”.
@@bobbabai It was beyond criminal that the U.S. kept troops out of Rwanda. After they got their asses kicked in Somalia they were afraid to go back into Africa. 😢😢
@@thecynic9232 Absolutely! He wanted troops to go in and shoot racial-justice protesters. Thankfully, people with more brains and rationality prevailed over Trump or it could have been one of the more horrific moments in U.S. history.
“The harmonies are a little much” said no one ever for CSN&Y
Yeah, no shit!
Yeah that was pretty funny
Without the harmonies, there is no CSN&Y.
They were talking about CSN, no Young yet.
A natural path to Buffalo Springfield. "For What It's Worth". Great band including Young and Stills before CSNY.
Add to that Bluebird, Mr, Soul and Broken Arrow.
An absolute great suggestion!! 😎
Yes, For What it's Worth was the protest Anthem for 1967, written by Stephen Stills and iconic guitar by Neil Young!
“For What it’s Worth” was written about the 1967 Sunset Strip Curfew protest and riots in Los Angeles. Stephan Stills who wrote the song, lived up in Laurel Canyon and was caught in the middle of the protest.
I've been waiting for months for them to do Buffalo Springfield's For what it's Worth. It totally represents those times
Is the crazy thing about this song, Neil walked down Into the Woods came back a 1/2 hour later with this song. He played it for Graham Nash, Nash calls Crosby and Stills and says we gotta get to the studio right away. They had a number one hit can't remember the song . When you have a number one hit you wanted it to stay there Ist for a while. They brought out Ohio and stepped on their own number one song. that's how important this song was to them.
That song would have been "Teach Your Children." The juxtaposition of those two songs, eh?!
It's been 30+ years since I heard the story.
@@teamviagraham Just watching David Crosby telling the story on his " TV "special". He might have embellished...👍
Awesome comment my friend I was hoping that someone would tell the story of this song!!
Having lived through that era. Being an active protester we were devistated by what happened. Ohio quickly became our Anthem. We knew that at anytime we could be killed but the issue was more important to us. Viet Nam should never have happened. I lost allot of friends over there and so many of the ones that came back were not supported by anyone. Many took their own lives!
Short story... I had a friend Jimmy who came back totally depressed and twisted. We always said "Dude, you can't kill yourself, your mom would be broken by that.". The night after his mom's funeral he went to her grave and ate his gun!!!!
For those of us who were in college at the time, ‘68-‘72, this was a huge anthem. It was a chilling time and all these years later it evokes great passion.
Thanks for reacting to this. This song will always bring tears to my eyes.
May 4, 1970 at Kent State was the result of a DEEPLY polarized nation, divided by the war in Vietnam.
I was an 18 year old draft eligible student at the time.
Student protests had been widespread across the nation for several years, most college campuses had seen violent protests, with tons of tear gas and police, and National Guard troops using batons and bayonets to "control" the crowds.
This protest was a response to yet another expansion of that disastrous war. The students had burned down the ROTC building on campus a couple nights before, the Ohio Governor promised to do whatever it took to stop it.
Shooting 13 students, killing four of them, paralyzing one for life didnt stop the protests.
It was a very dark day in US history.
Tears to my eyes and goose bumps -- every time I hear this song. Cops were cracking heads of protesters in Madison WI, 15 miles from my home when the Ohio murders happened. Gaaah!
The REAL unfortunate thing was that two of the dead weren't even a part of the protest. They were trying to get to the building their class was in.
***This dirge got a lot of airplay because so many disc jockeys were "Liberals" & mainly against the hideous, useless war. play the SONG!!! The morning it was released, it was an instant hit. Remember, not only was there the Kent State massacre, but also many campus demonstrations, sit-in's, BOMBINGS, disruptions of everyone's domestic USA life!!!! It was horrendous. Many people never recovered from the shell-shocked depression, especially Vietnam vets who were ostracized when they came home, kike they had nade the politocal decisions not the "suits" in D.C.
At MY college, UMaine, even the ptofessors were risking their tenure by protesting in the streets! This song was a musical culmination of ALL that division, hatred, frustration, and sadness that marked the end of the '60s & well into the mid-'70s. Great fodder for inspiration & rejuvenation. ROCK ON in 2023!!!
And yet we now let mobs of people run amok stealing and looting and terrorizing innocent stores, shop owners, and civilians. And when I say mobs you know what I am saying. hoards of black people thinking they are entitled to do whatever they want. 5-4-70 is nothing like what we are seeing today. Believe me, I was there on 5-4-70.
" Almost cut my Hair" jam crazy 👍✌️♥️
For protest songs, Marvin Gaye's classic What's Goin' On will be coming up, but for a real gut punch you gotta hear Billie Holiday's Strange Fruit. It will bring you to tears within 60 seconds. Maybe not for the channel, but you should listen to it. One of the gutsiest acts of revolution in this country's history.
Teddy Swims does a killer cover...
I absolutely agree. So much a part of our history. I won't listen to Billie Holliday's song again. I get deeply depressed just hearing the title. 😢
inner city blues is another amazing marvin gaye song. i think they should do the entire 'what's goin' on ' album.
@@marieparsons9908 seriously, it makes me tear up when I hear it. To think what our Black brothers and sisters have had to endure...
Strange Fruit has to be the heaviest song I ever heard. It's incredible she had the guts to publish it in the 1950's.
It's interesting how I can love a song while it simultaneously enrages me. Goosebumps every time.
Every time. Tear up, too.
The cover was painted by an obscure artist named Joni Mitchell.
This song is chilling, but not near as chilling as the events of that day. Read up on it, and I'm sure you'll get lots of comments from those who remember how the event unfolded. It was a reaction to anti-Vietnam War protests that were taking place on Kent State campus. The National Guard was brought in to quell the protests, but it all turned tragic when shots were fired, resulting in four deaths (and many more injuries). It was a horrific event, and Neil Young penned this song within minutes of hearing the news on the radio.
It subsequently got tons of airplay.
And Chrissie Hynde, of The Pretenders, was attending Kent State as a student when the shooting happened. Her friend's boyfriend was one of those killed.
The book "67 Shots" by journalist Howard Means is a great look at the wholebuild-up and clusterf*ck.
Even the Beach Boys made a protest song about it ‘Student Demonstration Time’ an oddly heavy rock one.
And just 11 days later Mississippi National Guard soldiers opened fire on students at Jackson State in Jackson, Ms. killing 2 and wounding 12 other unarmed students..
@@thegeezertour116 Indeed; Jackson State shouldn't be forgotten.
Joe Walsh was also at that University at the time.... His song "Turn to Stone" was partly inspired by the incident.
CHRISSIE HYNDE from PRETENDERS as well
So was Devo
The concept of devo-lution was heavily influenced by this catastrophy.
@jimmy fortrue, so was I, I Joe lived in the building across from mine off campus. We went over there sometimes and he was first playing in a band at Kent called The Measles, we used to go down to the bars in downtown Kent on weekend nights to see when Joe was in the James Gang. Jimmy Fox who was their drummer sometimes walked to class with me part way, are classes were in different buildings.
At the time, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young had so much tension between them that they were on the verge of breaking up. During breakfast on May 19, Young saw Filo’s photos on Life Magazine - an issue dated May 15 with the cover line “Tragedy at Kent”. After that, he grabbed his guitar and started writing the song. In only fifteen minutes, he came up with what he called “Ohio”. Crosby began working on the harmony part as Young wrote the lyrics.
Before they were supposed to fly back in Los Angeles, Crosby called up Graham Nash and told him, “You won’t believe this fucking song Neil’s written.” He then asked Nash to book a studio ASAP.
CSNY went into the Record Plant Studios in Los Angeles, rehearsed the song and completed it in only five takes with no overdubs. Crosby ended up crying after recording.
Crosby wrote, “I was so moved by it that I completely lost it at the end of the song, in the recording studio, screaming, ‘Four… Why? How many more?’ For me, ‘Ohio’ was a high point of the band, a major point of validity. There we were, reacting to reality, dealing with it on the highest level we could - relevant, immediate. It named names and pointed the finger.”
“Ohio” resonated with listeners and has become one of CSNY’s most enduring songs. And it became a turning point for Neil Young as a songwriter as this was his first protest song. Throughout his career, he would pen a plethora of tracks reflecting his political stance and activism.
This record was made and released VERY quickly. Under a week, if I remember correctly, which is INSANE if you know the mechanics of releasing vinyl in 1970! Even the recording sounds much more spontaneous than their normal records, which were fairly pristine. The harmonies weren't quite there yet, the vocals aren't really tight yet, but it had the fire and they went with it. Awesome stuff!
I believe it was something like 4-5 days which was regarded as 'impossible' in those days
If your looking for mind blowing harmonies, try Carry On by this band. It will take your breath away.
"Carry On" is flipping amazing. I think that they may have done it. Let me see if I can find it...
A&A did "Carry On". It was blocked on RUclips but is still posted on Patreon, Nov 16, 2020.
My fav CSNY song
7 bridges road is always my go to for harmonies.
@@zmanjace1364 Agreed! The Ian Matthews version of Seven Bridges Road.
When I was in 5th grade, I was in a different country in a class with American high school students. There is no way I can describe what the high school girls in that class were like. How petrified they were that their friends and boyfriends were approaching graduation and being drafted to go fight in the jungle on the other side of the world. Seeing a girl like them lying dead on the ground at Kent State just destroys me. I get tears every time this song starts. Those feelings are coming from Janis, Hendrix, The Doors....it permeates the music at the time.
I've heard this song so, so many times, and I get chills every single time.
It's worth noting that the four-some rushed this into immediate release just as "Teach Your Children" was peaking on the charts - they knocked it off the top 10 costing Graham Nash a ton of royalty money and he was 100% in favor of it. It was particularly bold for Nash and Young - both were foreign nationals at the time inside the US on a green card and calling out Nixon by name was putting a target on their backs, but they never hesitated. As dark as the political scene feels these days, it is nothing compared to how it felt in early May, 1970.
This is the reason when I celebrate May 4th instead of Star Wars I celebrate in remembrance of these four students. Long may their memory live!
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” - George Santayana
I think of this every May 4th
@@dbrook44067 Yes!
So do I, I was a student at Kent State. I was upset when I heard that now May 4th has become some sort of celebration for Star Wars. Don't get me wrong I am a fan of all the Star Wars movies, but I wish they didn't do it on that day (and I do "Get" why May 4th was picked for it....'MAY the FORCE ( 4th) be with you. But still.....May 4th is a day for remembering a horrible event in our country.
This song still brings tears to my eyes after 51 years. I was 19 at the time and it was absolutely shocking. Thanks for the cover.
On that day in May, 1970, I was days away from graduation from college. Standing on the porch h of our Fraternity House just enjoying a cloudless blue sky when my roommate from last year came screeching up in his Mustang. He was doing Masters work at Kent State and shouted "they're shooting students at Kent!" We all thought he was putting us on until we turned on the TV. The world turned on that day. 51 years ago and it's STILL fresh in my mind....😔
That opening hook immediately gives me chills. It isn't simply a reaction to how good the song is, but the fact it could be sung TODAY and sadly, still be relevant.
When I was a teen, we would say Crosby, Stills, Nash and sometimes Young!
Crosby said Neil's nickname was "Sometimes"
😜
Buffalo Springfield (including stills and young) - For What It's Worth
Rush did a cover of that.
"We're finally on our own". My generation felt that deep in our bones, as our elders sent our young men to kill and die and then killed our friends for trying to stop it. Those students were unarmed and shot down like dogs. We here in Australia went through it too
This song was written, recorded, and released within days of the shooting. It still gives me chills 50 years on. This is S-teir for me, one of my favorite songs of all time.
Neil Young gave them a harder edge musically and lyrically.
Always dug Neil Young in all of his phases ! Even liked some of the songs on his "Trans" album (believe it or not) he's one of my favorite guitarist ! I know technically there are better guitarist than Neil, but he plays with so much feeling.
He made Steven sit up and play as well, which was great, in Buffalo Springfield as well as CSN&Y
They were asked why they added Neil Young to an already successful formula.... and one of them answered, "Have you heard Stephan and Neil play guitar together?" It was like Nash and Crosby's harmonies, in a way.
@@charlesharris2749 Another reason was that on the first album, Stills played almost all of the instruments, so they felt that if they were going to go on tour, they would need another instrumentalist.
@@charlesharris2749 yep
The RUclips video, incorporating photographs from the day, is very powerful.
It really hits hard and this is one of the best protest songs ever written.
Showed that vid to my seniors when I taught history. The class was post WW2 to present with a focus on historical events represented through pop culture. So much fun to teach!
@@kmorri9 Sounds fantastic, Kimberly! I taught history for 30 years to high schoolers, and was a young man in my twenties during the Viet Nam era. Living it then, and remembering it as history now broadens one's mind in ways hard to describe. As Viet Nam dragged on for 9 years, and the body count grew daily, there was a sense of angst and anger that
seemed to follow us around like a shadow. The music of that time was so damned good, and I believe now it served as a kind of balm for the grieving hearts so affected by the sight of flag draped military caskets arriving home. We forgot too soon the 'kids' who went to southeast Asia and shed their blood.
I was actually in a college protest march when we heard about the shootings. Definitely was a wake up call, many of us never regained full trust in our country!!
This song had a profound effect on many people of my generation. There’s an iconic photograph of a young woman kneeling over the dead body of her friend...talk about chilling!
This was THE counterculture anthem of it's time, and it's hard to describe just how chilling the actual event was when it happened.
It was terrifying, even if you were a thousand miles from Ohio... the right to peaceful protest, blown away...
@@nancybrownlee6518 Don't go overboard. It was NOT a peaceful protest. Still no excuse....but.
I'm 63. I don't think of it as counterculture. I think of it as human empathy and justified outrage.
@@bobbabai I'm 62 and I agree with you.
@@eddiewillers1442 It was up until the Guard showed up!
My friend called me hysterical that day. She said "They're killing us! The National Guard is killing kids at Kent State." I was a teenager then and I'll never forget her voice and the sorrow and fear in it. :(
The National Guard was ready to kill more Americans on Jan. 6th at the Capitol. And now you have to ask yourself why they still have a fortress around D.C.
@@5burowz Those were seditionists attacking the Capitol, and the National Guard wasn't allowed to respond. I do remember Kent State and the Jan 6th insurrection has absolutely nothing in common. You can't have our protest in the 60's vindicate your tratorous behavior.
@@TheDeadlyDan LOL please! it was a giant photo op. "attacking" with what?
@@5burowz I am one of those who had to deal with the Kent State massacre. You obviously have no understanding of its significance.
At the time the shots were fired, some students at Kent State were peacefully protesting our involvement in another country’s civil war while others were simply trying to get to their next class or off campus.
They were not invading a government building. They were not trying to obstruct government. They were not trying to overturn an election. They were not attacking the guardsmen or police with clubs, flagpoles, bear spray or anything else. They were not carrying guns and they were not threatening to hang the Vice President of the United States.
Because of the massacre at Kent State, tactics for dealing with protesters - peaceful or not - changed. Once unbiased analysis and investigation of the incident revealed that the attack on the students was unprovoked - i.e., the shooting was not in response to an attack on the guardsmen - crowd control and protest response changed to emphasize peaceful, nonviolent action. Because of this, the only deaths on Jan. 6, 2021, were caused by the insurrectionists - not by the authorities.
@@deborahphillips500 what happened at Kent State was horrific and should never occurred. The riot on Jan 6 was also a terrible event. The deaths that occurred that day though were not caused by the rioters . One female rioter was shot & killed by authorities while the other deaths were heart attacks and a stroke in the case of Officer Sicknic. The media doesn't report these things accurately. Not one single rioter has been charged w/murder, only trespassing, breaking & entering. Not defending anyone in that situation but facts are important. Americans are being held in solitary confinement with no murder charges, c'mon ppl.
One of Neil Young’s best songs. The vocals and emotions in this song have made more people than not tear up. Especially when it was first released. So Powerful.
This song still brings tears to my eyes. Bless both of you for researching the context of this song.
Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On?"... another great social commentary.
Steff G The whole album is so 70s...the message hasn't changed much in 50 years, because the negative forces of racism and bigotry still permeate the land. I truly believed back then that by now questions of voter suppression, police violence on protestors and minorities and economic inequality would have long been settled.
What's Going On? Won a poll recently, so they'll be listening to it either this Friday or next Friday ✌🎶
@@jaycorby The message is compelling and timeless. A brilliant compilation of social commentary. One of my favorite albums to this day. 😊
Except it isn’t a question. It’s a statement. Just learned that myself this year.
@@laurakali6522 Yeah. Tragic redundancy. 😥
Love that you covered this song. CSN were known for their harmonies. Crosby came from the Byrds, Stills from Buffalo Springfield, Nash from the Hollies. They got together and it was magic.
And Neil Young, who occasionally joined CSN, had also been part of Buffalo Springfield.
@@parissimons6385 Buffalo Springfield was a regular band at the Whisky a go go back in the day, and played often with the Doors, who were the house band at the time
Have A&A covered For What Its Worth? That's kind of similar in vein to Ohio.
@@matthewdrake4385 I thought t he same thing. I don't know if they have or not
@@HamiltonRb Yes! Was living in LA the year that Buffalo Springfield was the house band at the Whiskey.
If nobody has told you, Neil Young heard about the shooting and walked out into the woods. He walked out into the woods and wrote this song in about 10 minutes. So amazing!
This was one of those times when art and history converged into a single critical moment in time. After seeing a magazine article about the massacre, Young went off, and wrote this song, reportedly in about an hour. It was rehearsed by the band first, but then it was recorded live in just a few takes. According to none other than Neil Young, David Crosby, who was the one with the primal outbursts during the outro, broke down and wept after they finished recording it. After the event occurred on May 4, 1970, the song was written, recorded and released by the record company in June. In the early 70's, that was as close as you can get to today's instant social media dissemination, completely unheard of at that time.
Guys, the optimism and hippie dreams of the 60s died in pools of blood on May 4 1970 at Kent State. This song was an ice bath then, and it is now to us that remember. The guitar and vocals rip right out where our youth had been. It got TONS of airplay, and rightfully so.
"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming...". Such a great opening line.
Even if factually incorrect, since Nixon didn't send the National Guard to Kent St.
Absolutely savage lyric.
Thank you for finally getting to this. It was a mess and caused even more divisions within families and the country yet at the same time, brought people together. Watch the version with the video for your own learning experience. It is extremely moving. I also knew someone who was there but not shot.
Crazy fun fact. Mark Mothersbaugh of the band Devo was attending Kent State University at the time of the events they’re singing about. And one of his band mates had a friend that was one of the 4 that was shot and died from his wounds
Good one, boys. I was too young to understand the events of Kent State, but I recall this song, and the impact it had on people's awareness. 👍
Only CSNY could get away with a second verse of Lalala's
Play, Find The Cost of Freedom which is the b side of the single,very apt even today
I remember the tragedy when it happened at Kent State University....still gives me chills when I think about it...deep song.
They never lost their values. I saw them live shortly after GW Bush took us back to Iraq and they performed this. Amazing. Young & Stills jamming was amazing!
The cover art of So Far (a greatest hits comp) was painted by Joni Mitchell.
Joni is FAR too talented for one human being...
She and Graham Nash were a couple at the time.
David Crosby recounted the genesis of this song. He was hanging at Neil Young's ranch and they watched the live news coverage about the Kent State massacre in disbelief.
He said he watched Neil write OHIO right then and there.
CSNY recorded and released the single within weeks, with the B-side being Steven Stills' FIND THE COST OF FREEDOM. You should hit that one next.
Must be done in conjunction with "Daylight Again" leading in - ruclips.net/video/0nlXmYVE_X8/видео.html
Yes and they quickly assembled a "greatest hits" album so they could get it out quickly.
@@sourisvoleur4854 It was released immediately, but as a single...so they could get it out quickly. Ohio was released in 1970, the Greatest Hits album was released in 1974.
@@Scaramousche1955 - I was the victim of misinformation. Thank you for setting me straight.
There’s a version of this that illustrates it with actual photos of the incident. It really brings it home.
At the time this song almost seemed like a reaction to the fulfillment of a prophesy from when Buffalo Springfield (including Crosby, Stills, and Young) released their 1967 song "For What It's Worth" (written by Stephen Stills) to try to get people to pay attention.
Kent State was a watershed moment in our history. The anguish in their voices and how their harmonies almost scrape your eardrums. Songs that make you think as well as remember are the ones that stay with you throughout your life.
Next song from them ought to be “Wooden Ships.” Talk about heavy subject matter. Woof!
The version by Jefferson Airplane is even darker.
"Horror grips us as we watch you die.
All we can do is echo your anguished cries.
Stare as all human feelings die.
We are leaving, you don't need us"
That verse always gets to me.
This came out a week after the shooting
Or a two-fer with Randy Newman's "Sail Away".
@@jeffmartin1026 Yes
I was 10 years old when this song came out. It was written and released as a single just a few weeks after the Kent State massacre. It still gives me chills whenever I hear it.
CSNY are among the gods of Folk Rock n' Roll and always write and perform music about social issues as The Beatles and many groups did in the 60's and early 70's. So good. Love this song!
Neil Young's ripping "Powderfinger" tells a cold story you should also hear, and the fuzzy distorted guitar is sublime.
When this happened, it was like a death in the family.
54 years ago. It still fills me with anger and rage.
Love your subscribers insight. Nothing to add but thanks fellas. Cheers!
Southern Cross! Please! My only more favorite than Ohio.
Yes! I know that the Southern Cross does NOT refer to Confederate flag, like I used to think! It's a natural phenomena like the Aurora Borealis.
Seconded!
@@scottboswell6406 It's a constalation that can only be seen in the southern hemisphere.
@@Meeker128-Amy See, I still didn't know, lol! Thanks!
My absolute favorite CS&N song!
"Wooden Ships" by CSN. Stephen Stills is also a great guitarist. He is cleaner than Neil Young and Wooden Ships is a great example. There is also a fantastic version of Wooden Ships by Jefferson Airplane. The song was written by Stills, Crosby and Paul Kantner (from Airplane) while sitting on David Crosby's sail boat. That's why the song belongs to both bands. You didn't like White Rabbit by JA but I think you'd enjoy this. There are beautiful Grace Slick vocals on this tune. (Monday you asked for woman of Rock from the era of the 60s and 70s and Grace was one of the greatest.)
Wooden Ships forever. Neil Young forever. Ohio, Old Man, so many more he did on his own that still make me cry. Wooden Ships was the best of the best with all four of them together. Wish Neil would pen one for the Black people.
Joni Mitchell is the artist responsible for that album cover.. Classic song. The whole album is amazing... The harmonies are beautiful. The song is brilliant. I can't say enough. 💚😊🎶
The intro itself is so haunting.....it's one of those songs that when it comes on the radio, you just can't change the dial.
This track was recorded 17 days after the Kent State shootings and released a couple of weeks later
Shane Egan Thank you for the data. I recall the time vividly...like it was yesterday!
I was 25 when the Kent State massacre occurred...I'll turn 76 this coming September. Enjoy and cherish every single day of your life...it passes in the blink of an eye.
I bought the 45 the day it came out. Still have it.
A true classic, and sad memoir in the same breath. I grew up in the 70's about :45 from Kent state. The event left a scar on the state that we will never forget. CSNY did a super job of leaving a true legacy. For more of their classics, check out Deja Vu- easily their best. As always, keep on rockin!
I remember back in the day. This song was released within a week and was all over top 40 radio. I recalled getting suspended from highschool because I refused to remove a black armband in protest of the shooting. One of our english teachers who had attended Kent State refused to removed his black armband and was fired.
We in NYC wore black armbands for all of those killed in protest. But I remember the news of the Kent State shootings - I was in junior high - as the most radicalizing event in my life. I wore a red armband after that for weeks.
It was a bit of coincidence and maybe some nonlocal karma when I was later at a CSNY concert in the Summer of '74 on the night Nixon resigned. The band announced it from the stage, then broke into the Ohio riff, which morphed into Carry On. A truly unique and memorable night, but nothing will bring back those gunned down for standing up for humanity.
So much for freedom of speech....and for our boys who lost their lives defending it.🤬
Two things- Mark Mothersbaugh was at Kent State at the time and this event was one of the main inspirations for him to form DEVO. He saw that society was devolving and becoming absurd.
Second- George Carlin had a DJ character that introduced “the new single by Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young (the band), Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Finner, Smith (an investment firm), Sacco and Vanzetti (2 Italian anarchists in the 2920s).”
Chrissie Hynde, Pretenders, was also a student at the time
I graduated from Kent State University. There's an eternal flame at the location of the massacre and bullets left in the walls of nearby classroom buildings as a memorial. Very sad.
I was a student at Kent State too. This May 4th for the annual commemoration ceremonies, they will be installing markers at each spot where the 9 injured students fell who were also shot. I don't know if you have been there since they placed the markers in the Prentice Hall parking lot area where the Alison, Sandy, Jeff and William fell when they were killed. It's such an emotional day going to the May 4th commemorations.
@@patticrichton1135: sadly enough, I haven’t been to Kent State’s campus since I graduated.
I was a student at Akron U. then. crazy times.
Helplessly Hoping by them is full of alliteration and very poetic. They do alliteration sprinkled into other songs, but Helplessly Hoping is worth a line by line reading. (It's not a long song.)
Another really satisfying review. Nailed all the elements.
Love the haircut! Thanks for doing this moving, intense, fantastic song. Love it!
There’s a photo that was taken at the time of a young girl kneeling in front of one of the bodies. Just a haunting memory of that story that comes to mind whenever this song is played. Look up Kent State shooting. You’ll see what I mean.😢
Thank you for a great reaction. This song never fails to make me cry. Some of my HS classmates were at KSU, getting ready to graduate, when this happened. Btw, many of those Guardsmen were very young, 19-20, who joined in order to avoid getting drafted and being sent to Nam.
Thank you for changing your minds on the harmonies 👍🏼
Vietnam era. So much great music from the late 60’s and early 70’s.
I always wished there was another verse, but it still gives me chills after all these years.
I kinda like that it really has only one verse.
I get the feeling it was written and just decided it was to important and just had to record it and get it on the airwaves.
It’s such a strong statement and needed nothing else.
I was a junior in high schools when this came out.
I remember the day this song came on the radio. It was ground breaking and gave my generation an anthem for that summer of total unrest and sadness that such a tragedy could happen to innocent students on an university campus. It got tons of airplay!
I see those four, young kids' black & white photos in my head and that chilling image of the girl on the magazine, crouched down over Jeffrey Miller's corpse, with that look of horror, confusion, and despair (I wanna go back in time and give her a hug).
When I watch you guys, I start to analyze songs more than I used to. For the first time, I just noticed that the rhythm of the song has a bit of a marching beat to it, like soldiers marching. Neil Young is just brilliant.
Great comment. I never noticed that but you are right and it adds to the sinister mood.
Quick plug for the Apple+ TV documentary series "1971: THE MUSIC THAT CHANGED THE WORLD" fits in here. First episode starts with the 1970 Kent State/CSNY story to set the table. One of the best music documentaries I've ever seen, dedicated to the best year for albums in rock history.
Go watch it!
I should add that the commentary on it that opens the show is by Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders, who was a student at Kent State on campus that day.
@@charlieboard4862 now i will watch it, thanks
Charlie Board I was a high school history teacher when this song hit the radio...51 years ago. I was 25 years old then, and was not in Viet Nam due to what was known as a teacher deferment. This did not excuse me from military service ( being drafted )...it simply put the names of young men who had this deferment far down the list of those eligible to be called up. I vividly recall the class discussions that ensued in the aftermath of the Kent State killings. My students for the most part were as angry as you can imagine. Even those who supported the war were amazed and enraged that National Guard soldiers actually shot and killed people who were pretty close in age to them. Those who
were not yet born in 1970, or too young to remember that era, have no clue how polarized and divided this nation was at the time. However, I honestly believe that what is happening in the United States currently has caused worse division. Not since the Civil War ( 1861 - 1865 ) have we Americans been as far apart in ideology as we are right now.
There is a book of the same name I've read.
@@jaycorby excellent comments, and I agree about the division. And, what makes it especially concerning is that so much of the division is caused by made up conspiracy theories, etc. I’m worried that a lot of the progress that has been made in our country is going to be torn down by a narrow group of politicians and media personalities who are just in it for the money and power.
When that happened, it was not a something that happened everyday like it does now, it was absolutely shocking to the country! Please do CSNY song Woodstock, my favorite. Love your show ❤️
It doesn't happen "every day" now...
Btw, "Woodstock" was written by Joni Mitchell.
@UCmGwq3B3BJ9DiWK_fi_uMaA Pathetic
@@johnp7739 I just meant that school and public shootings were becoming very commonplace, we are becoming sensitized to the horror. I was trying to express how shocked the country was when the Kent state shootings happened. I remember as a member of the public then almost a feeling of shame that this was allowed to happen.
@@parissimons6385 yes, I heard that on a documentary. Thanks.
"Mr. Soul" - Buffalo Springfield featuring Neil Young
Guy’s loved Ohio. Another protest song I rarely hear is Gordon Lightfoot’s “Black Day in July” . It was about the Detroit riots (I believe in 1967). A lot of American radios were “discouraged” from playing it, in the fear it might ignite more tensions. One of my favourites from Gordon.
"Gimme Some Truth" another protest song from John Lennon. Has George on guitar and even mentions "Tricky Dicky".
The video version of this song brings flashbacks of the turmoil then . If you couldnt afford a deferment & in any kind of decent shape you were drafted . The loss of 3 great leaders, struggles , protests and the music was for many a refuge
Great band...perfect harmony...they have many great songs!
The true companion piece to this is CSNY’s “Chicago,” about the 1968 Democratic National Convention, the protests, the racism… the subject of the recent Aaron Sorkin movie, the song gives a better sense of the times. “Though your brother’s bound and gagged / and they’ve tied him to a chair / won’t you please come to Chicago…”. Both songs still make me cry.
Actually, Chicago is a Graham Nash solo song, I believe. I remember when it came out. I was 14 and bought the 45.
@@jccook5353 Nash did it originally as a solo (on his "Songs for Beginners" LP), but CSN&Y recorded it as a group as well, and played it in concert.
"In a land that's known as Freedom, how can such a thing be fair?"
After all the news footage of the Chicago cops behaving like animals, my father, who was a cop in Hamilton, Ontario finally left the profession. He had previously reported a colleague for pistol-whipping a suspect and was consequently shunned. It is NOT a noble profession.
I saw Graham Nash in concert a couple of years ago. He performed "Chicago' then. He was great. Still have the t-shirt: "Trust Never Sleeps"
I remember that day very well. I was going into my freshman year in college in the fall at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. Kent State was only about a 3 and a half hour drive from there and in the same conference. When Ohio came out, it became our anthem as we protested the war. I never protested against the soldiers, just the morons in Washington and Nixon. Ohio ignited my activist actions as it did so many others.
How can you run when you know? This song still brings tears with the memories it presents.....
You are right about "Ohio" being an anthem for a specific time. Of course, we seldom seem to learn from history and the same stupid things keep happening. Please review something good from Captain Beyond, perhaps, "Bright Blue Tango" or "Sufficiently Breathless." Keep On Keepin' On!
Its difficult to explain what it was like back then... and why such songs hit so hard. I was 13... I remember like it was yesterday... I was living in Wichita Kansas... and had become politically aware with a serious jolt on June 5, 1968... A few months earlier in April of 68 I knew something was really wrong in this country... and this action by the Ohio national guard happened on May 4, 1970... It was at Kent State...
These historical things, instances... times are what make the music so universal.. You listening to these songs now... without the context and without them being in order of when they came out..it gives you a different look at this history... real history... that so many of us lived... Its not so much history for us as it is our lives...
Students had been putting flowers into the rifle barrels of the soldiers. This event started me on my political beliefs.
That didn't happen at Kent St.
I grew up in the 60s and remember it well. For me, the most haunting line was "Should have been done long ago." It was a frequent comment by those who thought that the killing of a few protesters was a good thing and would shut them up. Great song, great review.
May 4, 1970. It was a harrowing time and event. Even the Beach Boys did a Kent State protest song ("Student Demonstration Time" on the Surf's Up lp).