Why I Quit the "Curly Girl" Method
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2023
- 👩🏻🦱 While the "curly girl" method can be great for helping people embrace their curls, it has its own set of problems. I used the "curly girl" method for many years, and during that time my hair never grew past a certain length and the ends were stringy and uneven. One of the main issues I have with the "curly girl" method, is the recommended practice of wet-detangling your hair. I have since learned that while wet-detangling can create crisp curls, it also greatly increases the rate of hair breakage which is what led to my own hair seeming to never grow.
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Curly girl method is literally that the method of application not the amount of product. If you have to use ungodly amounts you’re not using the right product for your hair type
I don't think that's quite true. The curly girl method recommends using a ton of conditioner to co wash and condition hair. I unfortunately haven't had much success as it made my hair droopy and sad looking lol. I know it works well for others and if it works then no reason to break what isn't broken
@@audraburke1526 No, it doesn't. It recommends avoiding sulfates and silicones, along with drying alcohols. In my years of using the method I have never seen an across the board "rule" that "a ton of conditioner" be used. In fact, I have seen many sources say that co-washing isn't for all hair types, and that some definitely need a mild cleanser. That being said, I don't get the hate that is projected by people who felt the method wasn't optimal for their own hair. Do whatever you prefer and let others do what they prefer.
Co-washing is a joke and it's a gimmick imo. No way my hair/scalp gets clean from just conditioning.
I have curly hair amd I am so sick of people telling me my hair is frizzy! People have said my hair would look better with various products! I think my hair looks beautiful natural. I shampoo and brush with conditioner and them air dry without products and I love my natural fro!
Same. I love to air dry my wavy curly… it’s unique. I’m the crazy-hair lady 🩷
I do occasionally hair mask and a leave-in. Otherwise my ends are like straw lol😂
Same issue here i swear
My dad is a white british man and doesn't seem to understand that its possible for different hair textures to exist among white people, he's always telling me my hair is frizzy and that I need to use conditioner or something. It's so annoying.
I do "curly girl" but ive simplified it soooo much. Shampoo and condition, leave in, gel, diffuse and done. Clarify every couple washes. These people using 20 products are wild...
The 20 products is a new phenomenon. The original methed by Lorraine Massey consisted of washing hair with a light conditioner, leaving in a conditioner after detangling, and using gel. Air dry or blow dry. Done.
@@emem2863 Thanks for this! How long do you leave the conditioner in for? Do you mean while it is wet and still in the shower?
@opheliawinfrey9501 once a week, I use a deep conditioner (Innersense Hydrating conditioner) that I rinse out. Then I apply a little bit of regular conditioner (Jessicurl Too Shea conditioner) as a leave-in, then gel, and finally a little bit of coconut oil. On days where I just need to restyle, I may add a little more Jessicurl conditioner or just gel, depending on how my hair looks. For context, I have naturally dry, very curly hair prone to bedhead that is low porosity, and my strands are coarse (thick strands). You may not need as much conditioner or as frequently.
same, only i switch leave in with curl cream
@letsgoladies Just seeing this now. I have an oily scalp, so I don't use conditioner on my scalp. I use a gentle sulfate-free shampoo and sometimes a clarifying one. Though my hair is naturally dry, it collects buildup easily.
the quantity of products has nothing to do with the curly girl method. if u wanna use a whole bottle of conditioner u can, if u wanna use a quarter size amount u also can. the method is just about not using sulfates, parabens, silicons, and drying alcohols on the hair. all u need is a healthy conditioner and 1 styling product
That’s not marketed as “curly girl method”, that’s just marketing towards hair products in general. Coming from someone with stick straight hair, it’s not just curly haired folks that want those ingredients out of our stuff. It’s not good for any of us, just might show more on curly hair because it can be more unruly. There is certainly a quantity thing with products within the curly haired community. Sayings such as, “my hair drinks this stuff up!”, “I need a lot to be able to work it through the curls evenly” etc etc that you don’t hear from people with straight hair because it’s unnecessary. Can’t deny most people with curly hair use a net amount more product comparatively, even if they’re just using 1 or 2 products.
@@amandabrooks6209 some people do use a lot of product, but cgm does not say that they have to. its not a rule that they have to, which is what im saying.
I think that is not about using a lot of products. The problem is because in the cgm original, you dont use sulfates. So... you acumulate weeks (or months) of products in your hair. No matter if you apply a drop, you dont clean if you dont use sulfates min once a week. In fact, a lot of people are chanching the original cgm and modifiying the sulfate use. ✨️
@@amandabrooks6209 No one said straight hair doesn't need to avoid sulfates. This isn't an attack on straight haired people or something lol. But it definitely doesn't harm it to the same degree. The reason being curly hair is far more dry so it frizes and damages more easily and sulfates and chemicals are the main culprit
Its not that either 😂 everyone wants to take out unnecessary ingrediets because they dont know how to wash their hair. The curly girl method IS just that. Its a METHOD. Not about how much products you use or whats in them. Is HOW THEY ARE USED. the brushing in the shower to mousse in dripping hair whatever yall do. I choose to leave my hair be because touching it alone ruins the hair.
Your hair actually looked great with the CG method
did you not watch all the way through? she literally said it looked fine but it's unsustainable and her hair was super unhealthy.
Because she wasn't shampooing....had she actually followed the method, she would have used some kind of shampoo.
@@haldouglas4773Of course I watched the whole thing- it was only like one minute lol. But to me, her hair now always looks greasy and tangled which doesn't look very healthy so personally I think it looked much better before. Just my opinion.
Shampoo can be used if it is sulfate free, a low-poo. Basically, a gentler shampoo that doesn't dry out the hair or scalp. Other option is to use a co-wash. Co- washes have very gentle cleansing surfactants, and have a creamy texture. Keeping a clean scalp will ensure healthy folicules.
The curly girl method is about ditching heat sources, avoiding sulfates, drying alcohol, silicones, mineral oils and waxes, and accepting and learning to love your natural texture.❤ The quantity of styling products is a personal choice.
You are supposed to scrunch out the crunch afterwards!😂
Thank you!!!!!!!! Why isn't this being given more likes
Yes, but some of us have texture that feels rough and unruly and needs to be washed and have silicones. That method does not work on hi porosity, high-density hair.
I looked fine. And I think! Looks like you could use a good clarify!
Doing this method destroyed my hair in 6 months. Got advice from actual stylist that understood the science behind hair, curly hair, and true scalp/hair health, and this method isn’t the greatest and detrimental for certain hair types. Mine being one of them.
….she opened my eyes to the fact that natural oils are a non-synthetic form of silicones. Not ever using a sulfate to truly cleans your hair, will eventually lead to loss of moisture and cause breakage. Emollients are things like castor and coconut oils. Moisture is what is locked/sealed in by these emollients. But you have to remove them sufficiently to put more moisture back in again. Also, it’s ok to wash your hair as needed. I’m someone that has to wash everyday, but can get away with every other day.
I wish we had curly girl method when I was in high school...graduated 2006 and flat ironed my hair to hell and back DAILY for pretty much the whole time I was a teen.
The method works better if you use less product, and choose products with humectant and detoxifying products.
I washed my hair with it upside down put a comfy thick towel on the edge of the tub and leaned over that to wash my hair with my face looking down into the tub where i started at the back at my neck and then working it all into my scalp the rinsing the shampoo out letting the shampoo get my ends only when washing it out
Only put conditioner on my ends
But wash hair 2 times eith shampoo
1st time gets all the nasty stuff out
2nd time actually cleanses the hair and it doesnt get greasy as fast as only using shampoo 1 time
Then id brush my hair after putting in leave in detangeling and defrizzing conditioner
My hair was so nice and bouncy my god
I miss my hair :(
My hair fell out from bad stress so I became a "hairless cat"
But my hair is now growing back fast and you can see the lil curls forming again :D
Yes but no one in their right mind is telling you not to use shampoo, of course you will have product buildup on your skin if you never wash it thoroughly. It's easy to be misinformed today but don't blame others for things you decided to do without proper investigation.
Not everyone needs commercial shampoo. Some people use a light conditioner as shampoo, which works because they have a dry scalp. Some people only use shampoo once every two weeks, or they wash with water whole scrubbing their scalp.
Glad you said this. I also tried the curly girl method and gave up bc it only seems to work if you put tonnes of product in your hair which I'm trying to use minimal natural product for the health of my hair.
This lady forgot to cleanse OUT her tons of products which is basically the first step of curly girl method. She didn't follow properly. On top of that, she was extra on products. Mistakes happens
Since when was shampoo not part of the curly girl method? I have curly hair and use shampoo every time I wash my hair and am still left with good curls. 🤨
She refers to co wash thing
Some vids methods are sooo intense. I have 2a hair and I wash, condition (cantu) plop to dry then mousse. All the combing, lots of products diffusing etc. would be way to much for me and it wouldn’t work for my hair either. I think if you’re having to diffuse each wash to get the waves you think you ‘should have’ then your hair isn’t as wavy or curly as you think.
Where is the full video?
Technically, you're still using the Curly Girl method because you're not using sulfates to wash your hair. It sounds like you weren't using the right kind of leave in conditioner.
Also many people were using cold waves with perm rods and still do so to this day!!! Whatever works as long as you are not losing your hair! Have a great week and keep up the great care of your hair!!!
I used an egg with some avocado oil to "wash" my hair yesterday... A bit more oil (castor, jojoba, shea) droppered onto my scalp, then left it alone.. the curls are BACK in full force... With my silver old lady hair. I tried the clay wash... YIKES! That's going to take some practice to get just right. This all after watching one of your videos. Thanks for the info!
Your eyes are so pretty 😍
Let me share this it’s just me though I have naturally curly hair and I have struggle in finding hair products for me so one day talking to a lady at the store she told me about Dr.Bronners soap and she used instead of using a shampoo she used this soap and I have it a try bought it and tried it and my hair stopped falling and it works
CG was a good jumping off point for me to repair 30 years of heat damage and torture to my hair. I eventually went back to using non -CG approved products, but keeping the method.
i wash once a week, at night, upside down over the bath tub.
I wash with head and shoulders 😱😱😱
condition with whatever cheap silicone free thing i found at ollies
rake through some curl cream and scrunch in some gel
Plop my hair in a net and wrap with microfiber towel overnight. YES i sleep with wet hair once a week!
In the morning, my roots are about 50% dry.
i scrunch some more gel or mousse into the lengths of hair, micro plop with a micro fiber towel, and then diffuse.
It's about 1 hr total of haircare per week, as opposed to 30 minutes per day that i used to spend on "straight" hair that still turned into a frizz pile 8 hours later 😂
Tbh the quickets way to ensure healthy hair is a trim to start over for 1. You dont want split ends that fall off and not retain growth or thickness. You wanna moisturize the hair and learn what protects the scalp. Leave it alone after.
I am thinking of going back too blow drying an straightening because CG is too time consuming plus my kind of hair flattens out by day two or three and even my curly looks soooo messy an scruffy I want to give up 😣😔
Shampoo double cleanse with a scalp massager brush is necessary for my 2c hair. Conditioner of course. Leave-in a must. But every single step is not necessary. Just find a product and method that works for you and do your best. I've been at it a year and can honestly say, it always depends on the weather. I'm sticking to a few basic instinctive rules and forget the rest. Only complaint is tangles and loss of moisture retention. Hope I figure it out. But I don't need to waste lots of money and mental energy worrying about keeping up with all the beautiful people. Just accept it. 😂
Your HS photo remind me of a lil girl at my church on Sunday😂and she could not keep her hands out of her hair however she was rocking a cold wave❤and her mom as well
I shampoo and conditioner I use two leave ins (spray and a cream) I define my curls then I use curl cream and gel. I also might blow dry my hair (without diffuser) or I would air dry
My dads got Curley hair I don’t have it but the neighbor boy a year younger than me definitely does
You were so cute back then, and you've grown so gracefully beautiful.
I have wavy hair and so I decided to try the CGM for a while. I had ringlets, like legit curls! Until I flipped my head over...even if I dried it upside down. For me it wasn't the amount of product I was using it was the many different types of product "needed" for the CGM. My hair was so weighted down by conditioner,curl cream, mousse, etc and then on top of that grease bc I was only washing it every week or so. I finally gave up shampooed and conditioned my hair like I normally do and my waves came back. They're a mess and half my hair is straight most of the time but I'm just embracing it atp. I'd rather have crazy hair than spend several hours each day "fixing" my waves.
This!!
And maybe increase shampoo days instead of trying to see how long you can go without shampooing...
You should try out Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Bond Building shampoo plus conditioner. Plus use a shampoo brush to get good lather to cleanse the scalp thoroughly. You should be able to get a good 3-4 days between washes if you're using a decent shampoo. The leave in conditioner is also worth it. Depends on how long your hair is as well. The longer the hair, the longer you can go between washes. You don't need a ton of product. Just refresh with a water bottle next day and scrunch with a cotton T-shirt. That should do the job without too much effort. But makes sure you're also conditioning correctly. The scrunch and pulse method is important for conditioning as well as styling. Hope this info helps. Finding the right tutorial helps.
The method pic looks like you have too much product on your hair
I gotta say I really like how my curls look, like actually I love it but.. is not sustainable. For my hair to be good looking it have to be recently wed, or it will be just a no no for me
This “method” works best on curly hair. I wash/condition every few days, use a leave-in conditioner and frizz taming spray or curl gel…sometimes I use an alcohol free mousse and with both methods I allow my hair to air dry.
Been there. Done that. Bought way too many products 🤦
I‘ve also quit the curly Girl method. It‘s SO expensive, it takes SO MUCH time and you use SO MUCH products! Shampoo, conditioner, leave in/curl cream, foam/gel and then comb and style and plopping and diffuse and scrunch with oil 🙄. And at least day 3 you have to refresh (wet the hair, add more products, comb, style, diffuse, scrunch) or wash it again. No thank you.
I've never tried that method ever. I have curly hair too 🙂
The problem with curly girl method are , the way you crunch your hair,needs to vow your head and it makes me dizzy, im not comfortable doing that. Then in my country Philippines,its easy for the scalp to get oily so in 2 days my scalp is so itchy that i need to wash. So i wash my hair thrice a week. I think there are types of curly hair that really needs a maintenance products like gel,mousse.. and with shampoo, my hair likes the shampoo with sulfate,and my hair gets hairfall with deep conditioner.. with the brush, i prefer the big tooth comb rather than the denman brush, my hair gets too much hairl fall with denman brush…
My daughter has curly ish hair. People have tokd me i should use that method... Well no. 1) like nobe of the products are baby safe and thats alot of if chemicals for a tiny body, 2) she naps and drags her hwir on caepet, and smears food in her hair, and 3) mama has enough to do without plopping baby hair for perfect ringlets that'll kast 0.565 secs.
my preschooler has curly hair. I just wash it with this suave kids 3-in- 1 natural (no sulfates etc), then rub in some Cantu curl cream (which is mine, I don't buy him special products) and he's good to go.
I might pat it with a microfiber towel or T-shirt if it's sopping wet. but it's usually not bc he sits in the tub playing.
If it's picture day, I'll scrunch in a blob of my Aussie mousse and diffuse for a minute, just to set the ringlets. Only takes a couple minutes nothing crazy.
How did you know your hair was unhealthy?
Never tried the curly girl method. I need sulfates sometimes and silicones are my friend. Y’all really let yourselves get got purchasing so much product.
I was subscribed to your channel and now I ran across this video and it says I still need to subscribe, but I can’t? Guess RUclips’s tripping
CGM is costly and takes too much effort for being a "no effort" regime.
Just oil your hair, wash it , condition it and use a hair cream sometimes, hair will be healthy and happy. Also most important Diet. No matter how much chemicals you put on your hair, if you are not eating healthy it wont show results.
I don't know why you couldn't just look at your hair and see that it wasn't working for you. Yikes.
she literally stopped using the cgm what more do you want from her???
CGM makes hair look greasy :(
same. I wasn't using a shit ton of products because i didnt like the grease in my face. Now that i know more about chemistry, there isn't a single all natural hair product on the commercial markets. My hair may not be as defined yet, since im still learning to find cleansing solutions without shamppo/conditioner/leave ins, so i have to make my own. At least I'm not buying products anymore that eventually wouldn't work for me
The curly girl method lost me when I was expected to $175 for 🤬trim! I understand that cutting curly hair is an art, but damn that’s a lot for less than half an inch 🤣. And it didn’t include washing or styling.
just cut your own hair, ive been doing it for years myself lmao i simply don't trust hair dressers to cut my hair :)))
@@beach-foxes that’s exactly what I did! I even taught hubby how to trim the back for me 🤣.
CGM is a cult lol
As everything
fr, so many salty people in the comments here getting so mad at her for implying the cgm isn't the prefect routine that works for all curls
I'm just glad the gatekeeping has been outed. Beware of the curlies or stylists who refuse to share their methods. Glad it's not the 90s, millennial era anymore. Not everyone likes straight hair. I certainly don't and I'm a 2c wavy, borderline curly hair type. Love my beach mermaid hair.
So gorgeous. Definitely no awkward phase for you, in high school 😂
Really do not like CGM. Completely ruined my hair. It’s a no from me.
How did it ruin it?
I’ve been doing my curls since before the Curly Girl method existed and I have differently learn somethings from it but I only use some aspects of it. I see it more as a guide than a “bible” 😁
Shampoo only is the only thing that’s ever HELPED my curls, my hair is SO GREASY, it’s insane, and healthy because of it. But it weighs down my curls so much 😭
I can’t get past the purpose of a definition. We know what it is. Just show us the before and after so we can be on our way. I got scrolling to do
I tried it for 2 days. wasn't for me.
Its your fault u used so much stuff
Just use what's the best for your hair, not what was written somewhere
did you miss the fact that this clip is literally about her quitting the curly girl method cause it wasn't working for her and instead doing what's best for her hair? why are you so salty?
@@Ari_C I am not, i don't even follow basic Rules of cgm, but that's not everybodys fault that she dumb
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We are SERIOUSLY HAIR TWINS!!! I’ve never seen a white girl with hair that is SO LIKE MINE!!! I still do a variation of the curly girl method… I can’t handle matted hair, but I need to try something different!
@letsgoladies I wet my hair every morning in the shower, detangling it with a comb, upside down. Then let it air dry. Sometimes, if I’m feeling fancy, I’ll put some SheaMoisture products through my damp locks. I also have a bad habit of tying my hair up with an elastic band. If I could wear it down I don’t think I would have this trouble, but it gets in my face and is like a thick, wool blanket and I can’t handle that in summer. I also don’t have a great shampoo or conditioner, yet. I used to use DevaCurl, and am now just experimenting with random products. I feel like what I’m doing is pulling out too much hair.