Now that we've all got a closer look at the New Chemical Agent Warbond, I'm going to ask the same question from last time when it was announced: Is it a PASS (NO) or GAS (YES)? For me, I like it and got it because of the stem pistol. The gas needs a buff it's not as strong as other weapons. So i believe it's best to alternate between the sterilizer and your primary. Apply posion/confused then swap to main.
Oh yeah! The armor is not only cool-looking but also has some nice resistance to gas. For me, it was not just the armor but also the Stim pistol that mainly attracted me to the Warbond. I finally have a med load out and I'm happy.
@@Alex_Dul I'm nearly maxed too, but I still want everything. I had my "go to strats" for certain missions, but with the major patch I feel comfortable mixing up strats with others instead of me sticking to a "Solo build" (which is why I typically roamed before). Also, I'm extremely happy I can headshot a Bile with a quasar cannon now.
GAS, no use at all in diffculty 10 except the gas nade. In high diffculty mission, allow enemies to get into flamethrower range is already half way into death, both bugs and bots. And this sterilizer does not have the same DPS of a flamer, ranged enemies like heavy devastators and bile spewers can still turn players into pieces outside of the spray range.
Honestly I’d say it’s good versus both. When a bug breach happens just call down orbital gas, start spraying, and occasionally throw a gas made. I’ve been balls deep in a bug breach before and killed everything myself without taking any damage.
@@lilduckyprime3556 It can be just depends on how you use it. As I mentioned in the video, the damage alone might not be enough, so combining it with another weapon while the bugs are already being affected by the gas creates a great combo. Not so good on charges alone. However, for bots, you can apply the gas directly, and it will inflict substantial damage, especially on Hulks. It overall it's great against Bots but can be effective against Bugs but again depends on how you use it.
@@GlitchUnlimited id say its in a similar situation as deep rock galactic and helldivers 2 was in at launch, they're both great games with different gameplay loops. only thing connecting the 3 is bug extermination
I enjoy both SM2 and HD2. It's disappointing to see so many people wanting these games to fail. If I were a kid again with all that free time, I'd be thrilled. I would dive into playing those games nonstop.
@@GlitchUnlimited Honestly I made sure to max my medals yesterday and do my daily today for the Warbond. I'm not abandoning HD2, but another game I was interested in to got a PC port and it came out today.
That's a fair comparison, to be honest! The devs will probably buff it, depending on the feedback they receive from the community. I think it needs a slight buff to make it equal or up to par with some of the other stratagems or weapon choices.
I feel it needs to cause much more of the kill each other effect on bugs. It just doesn't have enough of a use compared to straight damage dealing weapons. Make it more unique with the confusion effect/kill each other, give it the ability to debuff armor values, last longer in the air/ground like true mustard gas, increase the range of the sterilizer and make the dogs breath sweep across more enemies reliably.
I think the gas needs to stay in the air longer. Right now its like a flamethrower. If they could make it where you are basically laying down a smoke screen of poison gas that hangs in the air for a while, now THAT would be much cooler and I would totally use it.
Fire is damage, Arc is stun, Gas is crowd control. We’re finally getting proper build crafting, previously gas was just green fire. If you’re looking at gas as a main source of damage you’re doing it wrong.
100%! I want to set up like 5 different armor/gun/stratagem kits for doing different missions. Changing everything from a defense mission to go to a ICBM mission is getting tedious.
I don't think the gas needs to do more damage but I'd like if it had armor reducing effect of the acid rain. The sprayer should also have longer range than flamethrower or something to differentiate it more and make it more viable.
The blinding and confusion cannot be understated with the bio weapons! The fact that they start attacking each other is amazing! A charger trampling through the bugs is amazing.
I think people are really sleeping on how much that can change a fight! It could do no damage and still be really useful! I carry stuns with me to get a little breathing room when a hulk is barreling down on me. This gun would be a game changer.
Gas needs to get buffed a little bit. 1. Have the Sterilizer and guard dog build up a gas cloud. 2. Have enemies have the "acid rain" debuff when effected by gas 3. Have the confusion last 5 seconds longer
Yes, and from my testing, at least, I think it needs to be stronger against bugs specifically. It does an exceptional amount of damage to bots, yet bugs are sponge-like to the Gas effects.
@@JAy-dx1xbyah a CC Weapon(crowd control) not a DPS weapon which is gonna be helpful when you get swarmed by large hoards of bugs in the harder difficulties
I thought gas does already have the acid rain debuff the fact that it doesn’t is really disappointing how are we coming up with that great idea on our own and the devs havnt?
All you need to know about the stim pistol that I have tested l: As far as I can tell it fixes percentage based amount of health. It is affected by medic armor you (the pistol wielder) are wearing (not the target as far as we could test). 30% hp per shot for no medic armor, 50% hp with medic armor, or around that. 3-4 and 6-7 second duration, hard to say, without and with medic armor respectfully. Since it's % based, vitality booster increases the amount of health restored. Viper commando booster IS affecting the stim pistol, you do get its buffs when someone brings this booster. Personal shield prevents you from being stim pistoled. It does restore limbs and bleedings. Successive shots stack. If you shoot someone at full health and they take damage a few seconds after, it will heal them. It restores stamina to full from 1 shot. Enemies are unaffected. 24 reserve shots, 6 in magazine, single action only revolver basically. Does have speedloader on empty reloads. Darts drop heavily and are hard to aim at large distances, "sights" are pretty lacking if you can even call them sights. It restores 18 rounds on resupply crate/backpack. 9 rounds per ammo crate.
We need a squad of divers to go in all with viper commando armor and stim pistols and punch every enemy to death while stimming eachother, the ultimate challenge in martial arts and teamplay. Edit: A good build idea for bugs would be the gas drone with a flamethrower. Stunning chargers letting you kill them without using stun grenades, as well as stunning hordes, which keeps them in the flames and helps with the flamethrowers biggest weakness, being dogpiled while using it.
Realistically, for it to be good it needs a medium damage buff, create a cloud with an ongoing AOE like the flamethrower, and the rover needs to strafe enemies instead of focusing on one.
It would argue its a fantastic utility and is great as is, if it had the same stuff as a flamethrower (more damage, lingering aoe) it would just be a better flamethrower with the addition of the confusion effect. I agree with the strafing rover though
Now imagine if you could Ignite a Cloud of Caustic Gas into a Massive Fire burst if you hit it with a Fire Weapon. The Synergy between Flamethrower and Sterilizer would be amazin. Hell imagine two Divers one throws the Gas Grenade letting it spread it's cloud only for the Other Diver to Chuck in an impact Fire Nade and just FWOOOMPH!
@@AdamSmasher-Official Right? The Biggest thing is Adding more Interesting Cooperative interactions that not only Benefit but Inspire Divers to Work Together for Collective Combat Efficiency results.
I’m disappointed we can’t stim ourselves with the stim pistol, also I wonder if it goes through personal shields and if it applies the stim booster effect if we have that booster.
I have a stratagem idea for the gas. A 'dirty' bomb orbital. A single orbital drop that acts like a bio weapon in a gigantic radius, but not too broken. That will engulf the area with green gas. Make it cinematic looking. Maybe make the enemies attack each other for a few seconds. Giant raid can
had a Blitz mission earlier that was going well. decided to test out the buffed Eman mech because why not? we were holding off bugs at the extraction point and a squad mate called in 110 rocket pods after i had just killed a Charger, Bile Titan, and two Impalers in quick succsession with the mech. and for some reason, the rockets targeted me while i was inside my mech. didn't know i was such a big threat. lol.
Been using the chem thrower all morning on bugs and it pairs super well with the Torcher. Quickly spray fire as the enemy approaches and chem them over the fire as they fight. Or do it the other way. Either really woks. You're not killing the chargers outright with it, but a confused charger turns and runs nearly randomly. I've just shot its butt out with the Torcher super quick while t's confused. Not optimal, but I think the weapon shines as a actual support weapon. Substantial amounts of CC to pair with any follow up. It gets stronger the more teammates are around to instantly followup. And alternatively looses effectiveness against small groups of enemies. Like a single brood commander who's only target when confused is you.
So something ive noticed with the new gas effects is that it makes thing confused and i dont mean like oh duh. No i mean i saw a charger drown itself on a swamp planet.
Its nice now we have not only a warbond that's better towards the bots, but I also like how fire and gas are fitting neatly into a preferred front to the war. Fire torches the bugs but can now do some work towards the bots, and gas confuses the bots to no end so they can't shoot straight, but still chokes the bugs out.
You should be able to stick yourself with the gun. If it’s OP reduce the amount of stims. They try to force teamwork in this game when I never see my teammates the whole match
The sterilizer has a big problem... it does not leave gas clouds! Gasthrower doesn't leave toxic gases on the ground like gas grenades do. Or like its sidegrade, the Flamethrower (a jet of fire and puddles of napalm).
exactly my problem with this warbond. I was really hoping everything would leave toxic clouds so you could retreat down a corridor and just leave a gas trail.
Now I want to see melee weapons added to the game. Imagine your teammate has the twig snapper armor and a chainsaw or something, and you're running stim pistol, medic armor, infusion enhancement and supply pack. Just have your teammate soaking the hits while tearing through hoards of enemies
The changes made to gas in the big patch made it so that gas is its own thing, not just green fire. The Sterilizer isn't for solo players and gas in general is now meant to slow down and soften up targets so that you or your teammates can hit them hard with a follow up. Once again, gas is not meant to outright kill enemies, not anymore, it's for disrupting groups of enemies. It's a combination of smoke and EMP. While maybe not the best implementation of it, the war bond is a step in providing a more support based role in team play. Think of it paving the way for a full medic based war bond in the future.
I think the sterilizer might be handy in solo Eradicate missions for the Automatons because you can control a huge crowd of them even if they're hulks and machine gun devastators. They'll get confused and attack each other when stuck so close together
Actually a W Warbond. The gas adds an extra layer of crowd control. Miss the Gass stuff with Ems stuff, and you'll be Gassing bugs in no time (ems strike and gas striek on a titan is Funky. Definitely a Support role. (the vibe of this whole warbond as to not be busted but to give a decent assist) but a nice variety. i hope they add more Gass weapons and a Fire Rover. (we need that and a Laser mech)
Trying to be a support role in HD2 doesn't work so well when playing with randoms. I can't count on these guys(returning inexperienced players especially) to kill the enemies I'm impotently spraying with mace. I could literally just bring something that will actually kill them and it would be quicker and much more efficient.
Honestly my only complaint here is that I personally believe the armor passive should grant 100% dmg reduction to gases, unless they add a gas enemy in the future
The heavy gas armor in the shop allows you to take 0 damage from all gas sources. Its pretty sick just standing in a gas strike while spraying gas and throwing gas grenades all you gotta do is dodge confused bugs.
If you go to the super store there’s a heavy armor variant and it completely negates the damage you would take in the gas. Dropping the orbital gas on yourself has actually saved my life so I recommend trying out the armor
I see this as a full support warbond and a really broken one if you ask me. But you'll have to run with teammates who go guns blazing. You focus on crowd controlling the horde and others would just mow them down, while you keep everyone alive.
You can cover a LOT of bases with these new items & buffs. I’m looking to use; the Eruptor, Crisper, Thermite, Dog Breath Drone & either the MG-43 (For Bugs) or MG-206 (For Bots). Got a Grenade Rifle, Flamer Pistol, AT Nade, Poison Drone, & Bullets. Then a choice of a couple stratagems. I’ll probably end up using Autocannon & Rocket Sentries for more automation.
they should either increase its range and have it shoot out a stream of acid like a water gun type thing, or they should give it a duckbill choke like they did with the BS&P
Ive noticed the sterilizer does great damage to armor over time. Feels like its litterally melting it off. Even if the damage isnt as good as the flame thrower
Have you tried using dog breath with the flamethrower confuse your enemies while you burn them I also feel like they need to give us two more slots so we can have much of a better build
Personally I would've liked the Dog Breath and Sterilizer to shoot gas grenades instead of just gas, why get up close just to do confusion when someone else is just going to kill the target from a distance.
I literally uninstalled the game some time ago but saw your video to check it its worth installing again 🙃 Heard a lot of players are returning is the game in a better state now 🤔❓
The game is in a much better state, you are powerful, but also weak, a glass cannon, and to be honest, the game is just a lot more fun than before. Give it a try, it's worth it! (Came back after the huge patch, it's amazing now)
They just had a MASSIVE buff patch 2 days ago and player counts have gone from around 15k to 75k. This buff patch is one of the biggest I’ve even seen in gaming. It will take forever to go over all of them, but here is an example. Thermite Grenades (unanimously agreed to be the worse grenade) got buffed from 100 to… TWO THOUSAND DAMAGE. It’s incredible now and that’s one of the un noteworthy changes.
@1.21jiggawatts2 The Emancipator is now a deadly powerhouse, like legit, you can take down Hulks, Bile Titans, Impaler, and Factory Strider with little effort, this is a must try if you never gave a chance to this beast.
I really like the warbound…playing a bit with some toxic chemicals and all that. However the gas-attacks could be just a bit more fun, besides the low damage, if they had kind of a feature like, when the bugs are hit with the causic stuff, that individual can no longer call reinforcements or something like that. I think this would boost the weapons just enough without again increasing damage to the moon
now that i think about, it kinda makes sense that the gas is better against bots as bots dont adapt as fast terminds as terminids can basically adapt against chemicals. while flamethrower is the complete opposite. bots are made of metal with high melting point so are stronger against flames while terminds can't really adapt to flames. lore wise, it kinda makes sense
I actually think the sterilizer more effective in bugs in terms of kill counts but the gas grenade is good in both bots and bugs it is effectively a stun grenade that does damage
Now would be a good time for them to add armor passives to helmets since this load out would be sick with the ground breaker armor since they already have the gas mask and everything
I think this war bond is great..I don’t think it was meant to be another damage dealer since we just got a crap ton of new buffed damage weapons..plus we have fire, and fire has its own identity. This makes the gas unique and will definitely allow some divers to make their own build. I say A+ for the war bond
I'm liking this war bond.. a very defensive weapon. This will give me builds to be very elusive especially in heavy armor.. especially when I am carrying things to mission areas. It keeps enemies away and let's me run without having to stop. Imma have fun with this!
I don't mind that the gas stuff does less damage than fire since it's more CC focused. However I think the effect needs to last and linger a lot longer
Warbond is great so far. Loving the new update and weapon sound updates. My sickle actually sounds like a laser weapon and it is so strong. Can take out 4 shield bots before i over heat. Update is amazing and itll only get better from here
You know I heard a theory somewhere that the Automatons still have human brains, like the skeleton robots have a white skull and wires with a “red liquid” going to them along with the fact they harvest citizens to make more of themselves and I can’t really see why fully non human robots would need people to make more of them unless they are using the brains. With that being said it would make perfect sense the gas would affect them, brains need oxygen to survive so whatever is allowing the bots to intake oxygen is probably sucking up the gas if this theory about the bots having brains is true.
I believe i said it before on one of your pervious vids but im interested in the new guard dog because i want to see how it can support me when im scoped in with my BUFFED marksmen rifles and/or AMR❤ but definitely looking forward to trying the stim pistol but i hope i remember to swap of the revolver as I've been having that iron glued to my hip since the game first launched, still happy they gave it the speed loader gimmick.
Why is everyone complaining about the gas weapons DPS and Kill ability? they are crowd control items. meant to confuse and DEBUFF the Armor of them. They are Caustic.. Use Dog Breath with Flame thrower or the Caustic Thrower with Rover back pack.. These combos are insane.
because flamethrower instakills them. if you already need 2 stratagems to do the same thing that 1 stratagem does then its pretty much worse in all aspects. its like why let the charger get distracted when you can just whip out the flamethrower and instakill it instead of having to wait for your team. "its crowd control" yea so is the flamethrower. i was extremely excited for this warbond but the more i look at it its just not good.
i saw your comment and went into a lvl 7 to test it with the gas thrower+granade gas and the hover dog, 500kg and laser for heavies, i got 387 kills doing breaches easily i'd say if your team has a good heavy killing build and you pair with them you can basically do anything without breaking a sweat in super helldive
It would be nice if the gas was flamable. The one from the grenades and orbital strike at least. Throw gas strike. Wait a bit. Throw incendiary grenade... BIG BOOM!
I have the idea that all this warbond is nothing but a support build evrything arround it is not center on damage but control and open space for other to kill which is very good some helldivers were asking for support weapons and oportunities and this is it
Was there anyone else that already had the title "Expert Exterminator" before the warbond even dropped? I'm so confused on how I already had and was able to equip that title... last night, I believe.
The weapon is suppose to be CC weapon not a DPS weapon thats the point of the devs changing the function of gas to begin with. If you’re going in this war bond thinking it’s like a flamethrower then you’re misunderstanding what the real purpose of the gas weapons suppose to be
Looks like we need some new stratagems such as: -Orbital gas barrage -Eagle gas strike -Orbital napalm strike -Incendiary grenade launcher -Gas grenade launcher Any other suggestions?
Why is every warbond so mid honestly. I was excited about the sterilizer but it's a glorified perfume bottle. The description says "liquify tissue" but all it is liquifying is my sanity
Personally i might use the gas grenade for bots as a better version of smoke, 1 toss and theoretically (havent tested but i can guess) literally every bot is gonna be shooting in random directions letting me heal and run away (perfect grenade to run away)
I acutely have a build in mind for this war bond I call it "mad scientist" orbital gas, orbital EMS, dog breath, arc thrower, primary either flamethrower or blitzer then the gas grenade or thermite for killing chargers I havent had the chance to get dogbreth to test it all out my self but I feel like this you can stun and gass most things I think you can stun all but a titan and you cant easy kill chargers and I'm the hentie monster but at least you have ways to take them down as for armor I would say med, fire resistant or gas mainly med or gas resistant so you can camacozy you self with the gass strike or gass grenade if you need to clear things out around you and have the ability to live
Now that we've all got a closer look at the New Chemical Agent Warbond, I'm going to ask the same question from last time when it was announced: Is it a PASS (NO) or GAS (YES)? For me, I like it and got it because of the stem pistol. The gas needs a buff it's not as strong as other weapons. So i believe it's best to alternate between the sterilizer and your primary. Apply posion/confused then swap to main.
Gas, but only bcz I'm already maxxed out and the helmet is kinda cool.
Oh yeah! The armor is not only cool-looking but also has some nice resistance to gas. For me, it was not just the armor but also the Stim pistol that mainly attracted me to the Warbond. I finally have a med load out and I'm happy.
Gas
@@Alex_Dul I'm nearly maxed too, but I still want everything. I had my "go to strats" for certain missions, but with the major patch I feel comfortable mixing up strats with others instead of me sticking to a "Solo build" (which is why I typically roamed before). Also, I'm extremely happy I can headshot a Bile with a quasar cannon now.
GAS, no use at all in diffculty 10 except the gas nade. In high diffculty mission, allow enemies to get into flamethrower range is already half way into death, both bugs and bots. And this sterilizer does not have the same DPS of a flamer, ranged enemies like heavy devastators and bile spewers can still turn players into pieces outside of the spray range.
The irony that it's more effective against bots than bugs lol.
It’s honestly better for bugs
@@lilduckyprime3556just range issue
It's supposed to be acid, right? At least the gas orbital was
Honestly I’d say it’s good versus both. When a bug breach happens just call down orbital gas, start spraying, and occasionally throw a gas made. I’ve been balls deep in a bug breach before and killed everything myself without taking any damage.
@@lilduckyprime3556 It can be just depends on how you use it. As I mentioned in the video, the damage alone might not be enough, so combining it with another weapon while the bugs are already being affected by the gas creates a great combo. Not so good on charges alone. However, for bots, you can apply the gas directly, and it will inflict substantial damage, especially on Hulks. It overall it's great against Bots but can be effective against Bugs but again depends on how you use it.
We have Space Marine 2 and Helldivers 2! We're eating good lads!
But, but SM2 is suppose to destroy Helldivers 2 lol. (what some have said)
@@GlitchUnlimited id say its in a similar situation as deep rock galactic and helldivers 2 was in at launch, they're both great games with different gameplay loops. only thing connecting the 3 is bug extermination
You can add on Remnant 2’s new DLC and Payday 3 year 1 edition, right now me and my friends have so many options we’re unsure what to go sometimes.
I enjoy both SM2 and HD2. It's disappointing to see so many people wanting these games to fail. If I were a kid again with all that free time, I'd be thrilled. I would dive into playing those games nonstop.
@@GlitchUnlimited Honestly I made sure to max my medals yesterday and do my daily today for the Warbond. I'm not abandoning HD2, but another game I was interested in to got a PC port and it came out today.
It honestly feels like the pre patch flamethrower, But it makes bugs kill eachother in confusion. So this is Acceptably Fun.
That's a fair comparison, to be honest! The devs will probably buff it, depending on the feedback they receive from the community. I think it needs a slight buff to make it equal or up to par with some of the other stratagems or weapon choices.
@@GlitchUnlimited more aoe on dogbreath imo in the vid it looked like it targeted 1 thing till it died
I feel it needs to cause much more of the kill each other effect on bugs. It just doesn't have enough of a use compared to straight damage dealing weapons. Make it more unique with the confusion effect/kill each other, give it the ability to debuff armor values, last longer in the air/ground like true mustard gas, increase the range of the sterilizer and make the dogs breath sweep across more enemies reliably.
I think the gas needs to stay in the air longer. Right now its like a flamethrower. If they could make it where you are basically laying down a smoke screen of poison gas that hangs in the air for a while, now THAT would be much cooler and I would totally use it.
Fire is damage,
Arc is stun,
Gas is crowd control.
We’re finally getting proper build crafting, previously gas was just green fire. If you’re looking at gas as a main source of damage you’re doing it wrong.
Excited to try a Fartdiver build.
Nah we getting the bugs high with this one.
LOL the Sterilizer should be called the TX-41 Skidmark
Smelldivers
Brapdivers 💀
Dr.Pooplove gonna go crazy with this build
We've gotten to the point where we really need pre-saved loadouts
100%! I want to set up like 5 different armor/gun/stratagem kits for doing different missions. Changing everything from a defense mission to go to a ICBM mission is getting tedious.
@@HeadCannonPrime yea and I spend a lot of time dropping in on randos so don't even know if I'm going to be going against bugs or bots before I join
I don't think the gas needs to do more damage but I'd like if it had armor reducing effect of the acid rain. The sprayer should also have longer range than flamethrower or something to differentiate it more and make it more viable.
doesn't it already reduce armor?
@@lordbeerus462 not that they said anywhere, they already reduced armor on a lot of heavy enemies so making it even lower now would be a bit weird
It should leave a gas cloud in the air like the orbital gas strike or the fart fungus on planets. That would make it really different.
They have acid in the game already, so maybe we'll get an acid war bond someday
The blinding and confusion cannot be understated with the bio weapons! The fact that they start attacking each other is amazing! A charger trampling through the bugs is amazing.
@@ArchMageMoks it reminds me somewhat of the toxic payload overclock from DRG which hard CC any enemies that get toxic procs
I think people are really sleeping on how much that can change a fight! It could do no damage and still be really useful! I carry stuns with me to get a little breathing room when a hulk is barreling down on me. This gun would be a game changer.
Gas needs to get buffed a little bit.
1. Have the Sterilizer and guard dog build up a gas cloud.
2. Have enemies have the "acid rain" debuff when effected by gas
3. Have the confusion last 5 seconds longer
Yes, and from my testing, at least, I think it needs to be stronger against bugs specifically. It does an exceptional amount of damage to bots, yet bugs are sponge-like to the Gas effects.
the acid rain debuff would actually be really good for gas and make sense because its corrosive
@@GlitchUnlimitedI think it's supposed to be more of a support weapon for you squad
@@JAy-dx1xbyah a CC Weapon(crowd control) not a DPS weapon which is gonna be helpful when you get swarmed by large hoards of bugs in the harder difficulties
I thought gas does already have the acid rain debuff the fact that it doesn’t is really disappointing how are we coming up with that great idea on our own and the devs havnt?
All you need to know about the stim pistol that I have tested l:
As far as I can tell it fixes percentage based amount of health.
It is affected by medic armor you (the pistol wielder) are wearing (not the target as far as we could test). 30% hp per shot for no medic armor, 50% hp with medic armor, or around that. 3-4 and 6-7 second duration, hard to say, without and with medic armor respectfully.
Since it's % based, vitality booster increases the amount of health restored.
Viper commando booster IS affecting the stim pistol, you do get its buffs when someone brings this booster.
Personal shield prevents you from being stim pistoled.
It does restore limbs and bleedings.
Successive shots stack.
If you shoot someone at full health and they take damage a few seconds after, it will heal them.
It restores stamina to full from 1 shot.
Enemies are unaffected.
24 reserve shots, 6 in magazine, single action only revolver basically. Does have speedloader on empty reloads. Darts drop heavily and are hard to aim at large distances, "sights" are pretty lacking if you can even call them sights.
It restores 18 rounds on resupply crate/backpack. 9 rounds per ammo crate.
Thanks, helldiver.
Ah yes, the Day After Taco Bell warbond.
More of a utility for sure, but paired with a teammate with fire would go crazy i bet
Bring your own fire.
@@Balloon-t5xnah bugs lol at least bugs don’t shoot strays back when out of their gourd
@@verti7900 wut
@@Balloon-t5xhelldivers is a teamwork game? this warbond is clearly support oriented
@@jeb6869 yeah but you still have enough slots to bring flame yourself
just finished farming super credits to get this lol, so far its amazing against bugs
Bots lol
@@creatonx1502 i hate using close range weapons against bots with the exception of shotguns bc of stagger
We need a squad of divers to go in all with viper commando armor and stim pistols and punch every enemy to death while stimming eachother, the ultimate challenge in martial arts and teamplay.
Edit: A good build idea for bugs would be the gas drone with a flamethrower. Stunning chargers letting you kill them without using stun grenades, as well as stunning hordes, which keeps them in the flames and helps with the flamethrowers biggest weakness, being dogpiled while using it.
That was my thought too. Gas drone/flamethrower would be pretty good since you are already close.
You Cook very well with this, I'M GONNA USE IT
Honestly, the fact that the guard dog shot the hive guard and it was still able to call in a bug breach is kind of a red flag for me.
Realistically, for it to be good it needs a medium damage buff, create a cloud with an ongoing AOE like the flamethrower, and the rover needs to strafe enemies instead of focusing on one.
ALL of this!! so much this!!!
It would argue its a fantastic utility and is great as is, if it had the same stuff as a flamethrower (more damage, lingering aoe) it would just be a better flamethrower with the addition of the confusion effect. I agree with the strafing rover though
Now imagine if you could Ignite a Cloud of Caustic Gas into a Massive Fire burst if you hit it with a Fire Weapon.
The Synergy between Flamethrower and Sterilizer would be amazin.
Hell imagine two Divers one throws the Gas Grenade letting it spread it's cloud only for the Other Diver to Chuck in an impact Fire Nade and just FWOOOMPH!
Oh yeah, that's a build that already exists on DRG. Works wonders.
I could relive the days of playing Scorch in TitanFall 2...
I actually think this idea is super fun and would bring lots of variety it’d also take some skill to do effectively.
@@AdamSmasher-Official Right?
The Biggest thing is Adding more Interesting Cooperative interactions that not only Benefit but Inspire Divers to Work Together for Collective Combat Efficiency results.
I’m disappointed we can’t stim ourselves with the stim pistol, also I wonder if it goes through personal shields and if it applies the stim booster effect if we have that booster.
It is affected by the booster, but I am unsure if it goes through the personal shield.
For what I read It can't pass though
For once an actual specialized warbond.
How is this one different from the flame or lightning warbonds? seems similar to those.
@@Malikrongased enemy attack everything including each other
MEDIC GAMING
I'd say Germany Gaming
Time to grind for this warbond
Wish there would be some way to open bunkers solo...
@@RandyBobasek fr
No rush. Get literally any other Warbond besides Polar Patriots before this.
@@rhetro777 There is always like 1 thing I want from every warbond. (except Polar)
Been having quite a lot of fun trying out all weapons and combinations again, not just one or two.
Now I can cosplay as Death Guard
I would kill for a trenchcoat armor set.
@@HeadCannonPrimethe ground breaker armor is as close as it gets
I have a stratagem idea for the gas. A 'dirty' bomb orbital. A single orbital drop that acts like a bio weapon in a gigantic radius, but not too broken. That will engulf the area with green gas. Make it cinematic looking. Maybe make the enemies attack each other for a few seconds. Giant raid can
So 500kg gas strike?
Eagle gas strike. The eagle swoops down and drops a line of gas behind it, like the smoke.
had a Blitz mission earlier that was going well. decided to test out the buffed Eman mech because why not? we were holding off bugs at the extraction point and a squad mate called in 110 rocket pods after i had just killed a Charger, Bile Titan, and two Impalers in quick succsession with the mech. and for some reason, the rockets targeted me while i was inside my mech.
didn't know i was such a big threat. lol.
Been using the chem thrower all morning on bugs and it pairs super well with the Torcher. Quickly spray fire as the enemy approaches and chem them over the fire as they fight. Or do it the other way. Either really woks. You're not killing the chargers outright with it, but a confused charger turns and runs nearly randomly. I've just shot its butt out with the Torcher super quick while t's confused. Not optimal, but I think the weapon shines as a actual support weapon. Substantial amounts of CC to pair with any follow up. It gets stronger the more teammates are around to instantly followup. And alternatively looses effectiveness against small groups of enemies. Like a single brood commander who's only target when confused is you.
So something ive noticed with the new gas effects is that it makes thing confused and i dont mean like oh duh. No i mean i saw a charger drown itself on a swamp planet.
Its nice now we have not only a warbond that's better towards the bots, but I also like how fire and gas are fitting neatly into a preferred front to the war. Fire torches the bugs but can now do some work towards the bots, and gas confuses the bots to no end so they can't shoot straight, but still chokes the bugs out.
Giving bots and bugs galaxy gas, what a time to be alive
LOL
You should be able to stick yourself with the gun. If it’s OP reduce the amount of stims. They try to force teamwork in this game when I never see my teammates the whole match
The sterilizer has a big problem... it does not leave gas clouds!
Gasthrower doesn't leave toxic gases on the ground like gas grenades do. Or like its sidegrade, the Flamethrower (a jet of fire and puddles of napalm).
exactly my problem with this warbond. I was really hoping everything would leave toxic clouds so you could retreat down a corridor and just leave a gas trail.
The heavy Chem armour+ vitality boost makes you immune to gas damage
Now I want to see melee weapons added to the game. Imagine your teammate has the twig snapper armor and a chainsaw or something, and you're running stim pistol, medic armor, infusion enhancement and supply pack. Just have your teammate soaking the hits while tearing through hoards of enemies
The changes made to gas in the big patch made it so that gas is its own thing, not just green fire. The Sterilizer isn't for solo players and gas in general is now meant to slow down and soften up targets so that you or your teammates can hit them hard with a follow up.
Once again, gas is not meant to outright kill enemies, not anymore, it's for disrupting groups of enemies. It's a combination of smoke and EMP. While maybe not the best implementation of it, the war bond is a step in providing a more support based role in team play. Think of it paving the way for a full medic based war bond in the future.
I think the sterilizer might be handy in solo Eradicate missions for the Automatons because you can control a huge crowd of them even if they're hulks and machine gun devastators. They'll get confused and attack each other when stuck so close together
OMG HELLDIVERS GUIDES ARE BACK ON MY FYP LESSSGOOO!!!!!
Amazing video! Unexpected that this Warbond, thought to be made for the Bug fronts is better in the Bot front, also poor Titan 7:38
Actually a W Warbond. The gas adds an extra layer of crowd control. Miss the Gass stuff with Ems stuff, and you'll be Gassing bugs in no time (ems strike and gas striek on a titan is Funky. Definitely a Support role. (the vibe of this whole warbond as to not be busted but to give a decent assist) but a nice variety. i hope they add more Gass weapons and a Fire Rover. (we need that and a Laser mech)
Trying to be a support role in HD2 doesn't work so well when playing with randoms. I can't count on these guys(returning inexperienced players especially) to kill the enemies I'm impotently spraying with mace. I could literally just bring something that will actually kill them and it would be quicker and much more efficient.
The new medium armor in the superstore gives me serious Krieg death Korps vibes! Combing my love for war hammer with helldivers!
Smelldivers rise up
i really like the crowd control and how it works very well with team play.
Honestly my only complaint here is that I personally believe the armor passive should grant 100% dmg reduction to gases, unless they add a gas enemy in the future
I've noticed infected bugs, maybe they're stronger to it.
The heavy gas armor in the shop allows you to take 0 damage from all gas sources. Its pretty sick just standing in a gas strike while spraying gas and throwing gas grenades all you gotta do is dodge confused bugs.
If you go to the super store there’s a heavy armor variant and it completely negates the damage you would take in the gas. Dropping the orbital gas on yourself has actually saved my life so I recommend trying out the armor
the slight offset to the right ear is really something.
I see this as a full support warbond and a really broken one if you ask me. But you'll have to run with teammates who go guns blazing. You focus on crowd controlling the horde and others would just mow them down, while you keep everyone alive.
It's a CC loadout, in an organized team the gas will be very effective for controlling enemies.
Thank you for showing game play against both.
You can cover a LOT of bases with these new items & buffs.
I’m looking to use; the Eruptor, Crisper, Thermite, Dog Breath Drone & either the MG-43 (For Bugs) or MG-206 (For Bots).
Got a Grenade Rifle, Flamer Pistol, AT Nade, Poison Drone, & Bullets.
Then a choice of a couple stratagems.
I’ll probably end up using Autocannon & Rocket Sentries for more automation.
the fact that the gas is more effective against the bots is interesting, it's like the flamethrower for bot front.
It'd be cool if pairing the sterilizer with the flame thrower caused fire explosions, similar to that two headed dragon in how to train your dragon
They need to add a gas/fire combo reaction. So when you set the gas on fire it explodes. Damaging everything within the radius including the helldiver
One update I hope is coming is custom loadouts. I would love to make different loadouts and select it quick before a dive.
Gas! Gas! Gas!
Im gonna step on the gas!
-Hans Helldiver after the warbond
It's also worth getting if you have everything else in every other war bond and have 250 medals weighing down your pocket.
they should either increase its range and have it shoot out a stream of acid like a water gun type thing, or they should give it a duckbill choke like they did with the BS&P
Ive noticed the sterilizer does great damage to armor over time. Feels like its litterally melting it off. Even if the damage isnt as good as the flame thrower
Have you tried using dog breath with the flamethrower confuse your enemies while you burn them I also feel like they need to give us two more slots so we can have much of a better build
Personally I would've liked the Dog Breath and Sterilizer to shoot gas grenades instead of just gas, why get up close just to do confusion when someone else is just going to kill the target from a distance.
I'm hoping we get weapon combo effects in the future.
I literally uninstalled the game some time ago but saw your video to check it its worth installing again 🙃 Heard a lot of players are returning is the game in a better state now 🤔❓
Alright; imagine the game at launch. Now imagine it better
Yeah! Game’s fun as hell again! Give it a try Helldiver🫡
The game is in a much better state, you are powerful, but also weak, a glass cannon, and to be honest, the game is just a lot more fun than before. Give it a try, it's worth it!
(Came back after the huge patch, it's amazing now)
They just had a MASSIVE buff patch 2 days ago and player counts have gone from around 15k to 75k. This buff patch is one of the biggest I’ve even seen in gaming. It will take forever to go over all of them, but here is an example. Thermite Grenades (unanimously agreed to be the worse grenade) got buffed from 100 to… TWO THOUSAND DAMAGE. It’s incredible now and that’s one of the un noteworthy changes.
@1.21jiggawatts2 The Emancipator is now a deadly powerhouse, like legit, you can take down Hulks, Bile Titans, Impaler, and Factory Strider with little effort, this is a must try if you never gave a chance to this beast.
I really like the warbound…playing a bit with some toxic chemicals and all that. However the gas-attacks could be just a bit more fun, besides the low damage, if they had kind of a feature like, when the bugs are hit with the causic stuff, that individual can no longer call reinforcements or something like that.
I think this would boost the weapons just enough without again increasing damage to the moon
now that i think about, it kinda makes sense that the gas is better against bots as bots dont adapt as fast terminds as terminids can basically adapt against chemicals. while flamethrower is the complete opposite. bots are made of metal with high melting point so are stronger against flames while terminds can't really adapt to flames. lore wise, it kinda makes sense
I actually think the sterilizer more effective in bugs in terms of kill counts but the gas grenade is good in both bots and bugs it is effectively a stun grenade that does damage
Now would be a good time for them to add armor passives to helmets since this load out would be sick with the ground breaker armor since they already have the gas mask and everything
I think this war bond is great..I don’t think it was meant to be another damage dealer since we just got a crap ton of new buffed damage weapons..plus we have fire, and fire has its own identity. This makes the gas unique and will definitely allow some divers to make their own build. I say A+ for the war bond
If you don't say its good or bad then don't be surprised if they release similar strategems in the future.
I'm liking this war bond.. a very defensive weapon. This will give me builds to be very elusive especially in heavy armor.. especially when I am carrying things to mission areas. It keeps enemies away and let's me run without having to stop.
Imma have fun with this!
My space hacksaw ridge fantasy is here
I think somethings up with your mic. It sounds like its coming mostly from the right ear
I don't mind that the gas stuff does less damage than fire since it's more CC focused. However I think the effect needs to last and linger a lot longer
God ive been loving the torcher it went from nothing memorable to my favourite primary
The gas isn't meant to kill. it's used to weaken units. It has the acid effect
Warbond is great so far. Loving the new update and weapon sound updates. My sickle actually sounds like a laser weapon and it is so strong. Can take out 4 shield bots before i over heat. Update is amazing and itll only get better from here
Still think they need to do some work on the bots. They have had annoying accuracy and aggro buffs since launch.
its very easy to avoid detection if you understand the stealth mechanics
@@olso8621 not on the higher difficulties when there are constant enemy patrols, gunships and dropships.
Did u read the patch notes my guy?
Im instantly thinking of trying the dog breath with flamethrower, since it slows enemies which the flamethrower lacks
You know I heard a theory somewhere that the Automatons still have human brains, like the skeleton robots have a white skull and wires with a “red liquid” going to them along with the fact they harvest citizens to make more of themselves and I can’t really see why fully non human robots would need people to make more of them unless they are using the brains.
With that being said it would make perfect sense the gas would affect them, brains need oxygen to survive so whatever is allowing the bots to intake oxygen is probably sucking up the gas if this theory about the bots having brains is true.
Finally there are warbond that give large impact to automaton
I believe i said it before on one of your pervious vids but im interested in the new guard dog because i want to see how it can support me when im scoped in with my BUFFED marksmen rifles and/or AMR❤ but definitely looking forward to trying the stim pistol but i hope i remember to swap of the revolver as I've been having that iron glued to my hip since the game first launched, still happy they gave it the speed loader gimmick.
Why is everyone complaining about the gas weapons DPS and Kill ability? they are crowd control items. meant to confuse and DEBUFF the Armor of them. They are Caustic.. Use Dog Breath with Flame thrower or the Caustic Thrower with Rover back pack.. These combos are insane.
because flamethrower instakills them. if you already need 2 stratagems to do the same thing that 1 stratagem does then its pretty much worse in all aspects. its like why let the charger get distracted when you can just whip out the flamethrower and instakill it instead of having to wait for your team. "its crowd control" yea so is the flamethrower. i was extremely excited for this warbond but the more i look at it its just not good.
i saw your comment and went into a lvl 7 to test it with the gas thrower+granade gas and the hover dog, 500kg and laser for heavies, i got 387 kills doing breaches easily
i'd say if your team has a good heavy killing build and you pair with them you can basically do anything without breaking a sweat in super helldive
It would be nice if the gas was flamable. The one from the grenades and orbital strike at least. Throw gas strike. Wait a bit. Throw incendiary grenade... BIG BOOM!
I have the idea that all this warbond is nothing but a support build evrything arround it is not center on damage but control and open space for other to kill which is very good some helldivers were asking for support weapons and oportunities and this is it
2 new stratagems and a gas grenade giving gas more relevance and a crusaders crossbow type weapon, honestly not bad warbond.
Flame thrower, gas grenade, dog breath = torture.
You should do a new warbond tier list now with the new warbond and all of the buffs
Was there anyone else that already had the title "Expert Exterminator" before the warbond even dropped?
I'm so confused on how I already had and was able to equip that title... last night, I believe.
My man I got this warbond for the emotes and the fart dog
The weapon is suppose to be CC weapon not a DPS weapon thats the point of the devs changing the function of gas to begin with. If you’re going in this war bond thinking it’s like a flamethrower then you’re misunderstanding what the real purpose of the gas weapons suppose to be
So fire for bugs and gas for bots. I like that, if those two were only viable for bugs that would be awful for playstyle variety
2:50 warrior just casually calling a breach while being sprayed with acid. This thing is not looking too good
Bugs really got confuse&blind,but no slow-down effection,which makes them more danger when covered by toxic gas.😢
Looks like we need some new stratagems such as:
-Orbital gas barrage
-Eagle gas strike
-Orbital napalm strike
-Incendiary grenade launcher
-Gas grenade launcher
Any other suggestions?
Gas for Automatons. Fire for Terminds. Dig it. Got it.
Why is every warbond so mid honestly. I was excited about the sterilizer but it's a glorified perfume bottle. The description says "liquify tissue" but all it is liquifying is my sanity
This aged like fine wine considering the update on diddy…
I believe the new warbond is meant for support rather than raw dps
Ngl this seems more like a support warbond, which I am very much fine with :3
Personally i might use the gas grenade for bots as a better version of smoke, 1 toss and theoretically (havent tested but i can guess) literally every bot is gonna be shooting in random directions letting me heal and run away (perfect grenade to run away)
I acutely have a build in mind for this war bond I call it "mad scientist" orbital gas, orbital EMS, dog breath, arc thrower, primary either flamethrower or blitzer then the gas grenade or thermite for killing chargers I havent had the chance to get dogbreth to test it all out my self but I feel like this you can stun and gass most things I think you can stun all but a titan and you cant easy kill chargers and I'm the hentie monster but at least you have ways to take them down as for armor I would say med, fire resistant or gas mainly med or gas resistant so you can camacozy you self with the gass strike or gass grenade if you need to clear things out around you and have the ability to live
Run a Primary Flamethrower and a Drop pod TX-4 and boom, confused and inflammed.