The East Germans were always my favourite team. Sure they doped, but who didn't. Say what you want, they were special. Marita Koch and Heike Drechsler and Irina Privalova are my favourite track stars. Long live East German sprinters
@@geraldfindon827 There was no British team in that final in the first place (or an Irish one for that matter). As for the Soviets and East Germans, all boosted by their respective regimes state sponsored drug schemes.
Kiss my white ass. Blacks have been propped up and supported and covered for by powers that be because the Jamaican track program and USA track program are both full of PEDS and have been for years.
Anybody else wondering (and already knowing the answer !) what happened to the (east) German athletes since the 80's ? No German in a global leading position nowadays.
No more Gohr or Stecher or Wockel or Drechsler or Voight or Koch or.......because no more boarding schools where athletes are fed Turinabol from day one!😂😂
If you look at their individual times for each events, they perform almost similar in 1987 and 1988. the only reason is other countries perform better during the Olympics. Take this even for example, the GBR clock almost similar time (3:18) whereas the URS and USA dropped from 3:19 in 1987 to 3:15 !!!
@@smswaff1 or the other teams improved their medical staff? Could not be? Well, your point of view depends on the propaganda you are listening to. But for sure athletes like Flo-Jo Griffith-Joyner for example improved their performances by intense training sessions ;-) (and she is dead now because she used less medicine than the GDR and USSR athletes who are still alive.) ;-) Nice Hypocrisy
I miss these strong European teams, I know they were drugged up, but it added more colour USSR, GDR, USA, great stuff. At least the jamaicans are keeping things interesting in their battle with the US.
The Soviets and East Germans were pumped with drugs. A never ending stream of white women record holders that instantly disappeared after they were caught doping. US had a few but nowhere near the level of the Soviets and E. Germans. They even destroyed the samples so that later tests could not be performed.
@@douglasraddi4872 That's a really broad statement. You can find exceptions to anything. No one is or has been dirtier than East Germany and Russia. Drug testing has vastly improved and Russia was completely banned. It's one thing to have a few rogue violations. It's another thing to have entire teams test positive and proof of that is Russia has since never been able to put together any runners of any substance. They even looked drugged. More like transgendered dudes running with makeup.
@RFSA88 Yes Pam Marshall, she use to trade info with other athletes on drugs eg. the Charlie Francis athletes and the Bob Keerse athletes (who was Pam's coach).
The same GDR squad in this video (Neubauer, Emmellman, Muller, and Busch), is the one that just one year later at the Olympics in Seoul would be totally overhauled by the USSR and USA.
Maybe so, Ilona Slupianek was the only East German who got caught in competitions. But In case of Americans, there are some exceptions; Pam Marshall, Diane Williams, Antonio Pettigrew didn't get caught and they had confessed use of doping. Also the BALCO-case happened quite accidentally, I think.
Given that Russia and Germany are now non existent in track talent it's proof positive they they were dirty beyond belief. No progeny and they've been repeatedly banned for years after that for doping and USA has not.
Honestly it’s good to see others countries win as well I hate the fact now a day u only see either USA or Jamaica come on or when u watch soccer u know the final is either going to be Brazil Germany France I will always cheers up others unkown countries like mile 5000 10000 keneya and Ethiopia Nothing against those know countries just I would love to see others and cheer them up
The question most track and field fans were asking was what happened to the GDR women the following year at the Olympics in 1988. The GDR women swimmers were dominant in Seoul, but their track and field stars were not.
The men's program was always separate from the women's and less effective. Run by different people within the GDR. Read Charlie Francis' "Speed Trap" for his personal talks with GDR coaches of the time. Not every year was a banner year for the GDR, especially after other countries and athletes caught on to the NECESSITY of doping in order to remain competitive.
Jack Weger Especially the Americans and the Sovjets had caught with the East Germans between Rome and Seoul. East Germany still won a lot of medals, but they were not as dominant in track & field as they used to be.
Actually don’t think it was about closing the gap between Rome and Seoul. It was later revealed by USA Anti Doping who retested drug samples from the 1984 Olympics that lots of the Americans were doping then. If a number of the medal winners were dirty in LA84, it’s reasonable to believe they were just as dirty here at Roma87
Nope , it was before DRUG TESTING became a thing. ALL the women who beat the Jamaicans eventually tested positive for performance enhancing substances.
jussayin mipeece Its well known that Jamaica is doping too, a lot of jamaican athletes already tested positive Asafa Powell, Nesta Carter. I am sure Jamacains were doping back then as well but i suppose their training and sport programm was not even close to that from the GDR.
Not relly..marion jones started using in late 90s and NEVER got caught..she confess. I wonder how many others are in the same situation. I think its a level playing field..always been.
well.actually not really..if u look at their relay team, its almost the same prson year after year (except those who retired of course). In 1988, Dreschler is the fastest 100m runner for them but still not included in the relay - they stick to their usual team - gladisch, behrendt, auerswald, gohr.
@@jussayinmipeece1069 No they beat because they were the best at that time. Only the doped up Eastern Europeans could beat. Just as Black American women did in the 60s pre-steroids.🤔
If you want a serious reply, something like say testosterone is already in abundance in a man, so adding more would yield small improvement if any. However, as testosterone is scarce in a woman, adding some to an already world class athlete could yield records that still haven't been broken.
They had good results but with Flo Jo being there, GDR women had no chance in the sprint (100m 200m) still they won 2 bronzes. In the 400 the big favorite Marita Koch had retired already 2 years before, yet the won silver. Gold and silver in the 800m ... So they had good results overall, is just that flo jo overshawed them i think.
That was an absolutely awful exchange from the Americans on the second to third leg. Awful. Why didn't the incoming runner move outside to pass the baton? Real lack of concentration there. It may not have mattered in the end but they gave up any hope to push the Soviets in part because of that.
They lost both their star sprinters to retirement in 1987. (Both Jarmila Kratachvilova and Tatiana Kocembova called it quits). Without them, the Czechs had no team
So Team drugs win, another Team drugs take silver, the US in 3rd, Canada in 4th, West Germany 5th. Are these medals ever going to get redistributed to their rightful owners?
Oh..the good old days of East German and Russian Doping! Some of them had that much testosterone.. They were barely even women... Sustained and Systematically enhanced. They were very good at it.
@@jensolepoulsen4377. women's 4 × 400 relay at the 2000 Sydney Olympics and 2004 Athens - USA won on Doping. Officially confirmed. but medals tu USA scammers. left.
Carter had to make a decision, on whether or not to send our American Team over to the Soviet Union. You may have forgotten, that the Cold War was going on. If you were President at this time, what would you have done!!! It was not an easy choice, but in terms of him being useless or him making a right choice, I would have went with keeping them home, also. If something would have happened to our Team, then he would have been blamed. Food for thought.
@@waynehentley4332 In general, this would've been true. Evelyn Ashford would've done well coming off her 1979 World Cup wins - she had already decided to become a "player" on the world stage. Jodi Anderson may have snuck in for a long jump or pentathlon bronze. Kate Schmidt, too, or Karin Smith in the javelin. Mary Decker may have gotten a medal, but probably not. As for the rest of the team, they'd been lucky to be in the semis.
@@kurtfrancis4621 learn your History. Americans were the women to beat, especially Black Americans because they dominated the entire decade of the 1960s in Track and Field. American Men kicked enough ass to keep the American Press. Your stuck on these women, had the Eastern Bloc Countries not used steroids Black America woman would have continued their domination of Track & Field. White American women would have dominated swimming. It wasn't just the East-Germans. Bulgarians, Czechoslovakian, Poles, Yugoslavia all were doped up during 70s a d 80s. It was the Cold War.
The East Germans were always my favourite team. Sure they doped, but who didn't. Say what you want, they were special. Marita Koch and Heike Drechsler and Irina Privalova are my favourite track stars. Long live East German sprinters
Privolova is Russian.
They were special because they doped. Lots of runners didn't dope.
Most of the Americans and Jamaicans doped up to fcuk now
@@pcolt4 bullshiit! They were special because they were great athletes without the brainwashed shit of today’s whites.
Irina Privalova is Russian.
wonderful girls from GDR
They were ALL doped up you idiot
Muck You just the east germans
@@teevee7678 And the Sovjets and the Americans...
Love seeing the Brits and yanks getting beat 🇮🇪
@@geraldfindon827 There was no British team in that final in the first place (or an Irish one for that matter). As for the Soviets and East Germans, all boosted by their respective regimes state sponsored drug schemes.
гдр всегда была в области спорта гордостью людей ссср и это факт
Yes, doped like horses
The USSR also used Oral Turinabol.
My beautiful East German win again and they have nice legs
😂😂😂😂😂
I miss these days. REAL Championships!
@@bfc3057 Well, do you really think it is different today?
those were the days........ steroids or not ,there was close and hard competition.....
Брызгина круто пробежала 4-й этап.
Но ГДР порвала всех
What
@@abcdecghijklmn GDR the best
@@AleksAleksov454 With Oral Turinabol.
@@joeortiz7715 USA =DIANOBOL
marita koch was missed! brisco 3golds in LA a bronze in rome!
Athletes from the GDR are the most beautiful!
They should have been Miss Universe!!😳😳
Great sport at the time - number of clean athletes collecting medals = 0 I reckon
In this race for sure. Not true in the overall.
Yes its clean now
Kiss my white ass. Blacks have been propped up and supported and covered for by powers that be because the Jamaican track program and USA track program are both full of PEDS and have been for years.
@@sage6336 no it’s not 🙄
Anybody else wondering (and already knowing the answer !) what happened to the (east) German athletes since the 80's ? No German in a global leading position nowadays.
Multiculturalism at it’s best😅
No more Gohr or Stecher or Wockel or Drechsler or Voight or Koch or.......because no more boarding schools where athletes are fed Turinabol from day one!😂😂
The GDR dominated at these World Championships, but the following year at the Seoul Olympic Games, they struggled in nearly every event.
they got caught doping....
Only the Women. Aided by Oral Turinabol of course. The East German Men were lucky to make any Finals, much less dominate.
If you look at their individual times for each events, they perform almost similar in 1987 and 1988. the only reason is other countries perform better during the Olympics. Take this even for example, the GBR clock almost similar time (3:18) whereas the URS and USA dropped from 3:19 in 1987 to 3:15 !!!
GDR
@@smswaff1 or the other teams improved their medical staff? Could not be? Well, your point of view depends on the propaganda you are listening to.
But for sure athletes like Flo-Jo Griffith-Joyner for example improved their performances by intense training sessions ;-) (and she is dead now because she used less medicine than the GDR and USSR athletes who are still alive.) ;-) Nice Hypocrisy
D.D.R. the best.
Always and excellent example of what pharmaceuticals could do...
I miss these strong European teams, I know they were drugged up, but it added more colour USSR, GDR, USA, great stuff. At least the jamaicans are keeping things interesting in their battle with the US.
The Soviets and East Germans were pumped with drugs. A never ending stream of white women record holders that instantly disappeared after they were caught doping. US had a few but nowhere near the level of the Soviets and E. Germans. They even destroyed the samples so that later tests could not be performed.
@@cr3161 Yeah, because yanks are blessed by god...
@@cr3161 you think the Americans and Jamaica are clean?
@@douglasraddi4872 That's a really broad statement. You can find exceptions to anything. No one is or has been dirtier than East Germany and Russia. Drug testing has vastly improved and Russia was completely banned. It's one thing to have a few rogue violations. It's another thing to have entire teams test positive and proof of that is Russia has since never been able to put together any runners of any substance. They even looked drugged. More like transgendered dudes running with makeup.
@@cr3161 pumped up compared to who? the us team was definetly on level when it comes to pumping
Thank you!!! I've been looking for this video.
I love the East German women.
Man, this was some real juice in this race! And I don't mean OJ, either.......!
@RFSA88 Yes Pam Marshall, she use to trade info with other athletes on drugs eg. the Charlie Francis athletes and the Bob Keerse athletes (who was Pam's coach).
This were the days, my friend, when we win great races.
The GDR had a little help, but you have to admit all 4 of them had great technique
Russia and USA had no help ! Sheesh 🙄
@@michaeldidschuen5004 The USA didn't have much help here but definitely in 1988 when they improved by 7 seconds!
@@waynehentley4332 They didn't improve by 7 sec, they were the OR holders at 3:18.29.
@@joeortiz7715 Their OR was from 84. USA ran 3.22 at Rome in 87.
The same GDR squad in this video (Neubauer, Emmellman, Muller, and Busch), is the one that just one year later at the Olympics in Seoul would be totally overhauled by the USSR and USA.
The RUSSIANS STILL HOLD THE RECORD!
@@captainamericaamerica8090 Yes and the American record stands to this day. Both USSR and USA broke the East German record at the 1988 Olympics.
jhecht424 And that should tell us that the Sovjets and Americans were completely drugged in Seoul.
Maybe so, Ilona Slupianek was the only East German who got caught in competitions. But In case of Americans, there are some exceptions; Pam Marshall, Diane Williams, Antonio Pettigrew didn't get caught and they had confessed use of doping. Also the BALCO-case happened quite accidentally, I think.
being slow doesnt make them clean.
Given that Russia and Germany are now non existent in track talent it's proof positive they they were dirty beyond belief. No progeny and they've been repeatedly banned for years after that for doping and USA has not.
@@cr3161 who gives af..Just shut up..If your so critical of the runners in the video just scroll past it ..Idiot.
First class quartet. First class doping.
Super !
I ran ncaa division 1 in late 80’s and early 90’s. The steroids were everywhere. I am saddened by the good athletes shadowed by steroids.
Agree because many runners still ran clean and got no recognition.
Yeah, but Flo-jo was both clean and fast.
@@bebobalula Are you sure? There Might a cover UP... This crap about clean yanks sounds like sci fi.
@@bebobalula what a joke
@@bebobalula She most def was NOT 🙄🤣
Honestly it’s good to see others countries win as well I hate the fact now a day u only see either USA or Jamaica come on or when u watch soccer u know the final is either going to be Brazil Germany France
I will always cheers up others unkown countries like mile 5000 10000 keneya and Ethiopia
Nothing against those know countries just I would love to see others and cheer them up
The question most track and field fans were asking was what happened to the GDR women the following year at the Olympics in 1988. The GDR women swimmers were dominant in Seoul, but their track and field stars were not.
The men's program was always separate from the women's and less effective. Run by different people within the GDR. Read Charlie Francis' "Speed Trap" for his personal talks with GDR coaches of the time. Not every year was a banner year for the GDR, especially after other countries and athletes caught on to the NECESSITY of doping in order to remain competitive.
Jack Weger Especially the Americans and the Sovjets had caught with the East Germans between Rome and Seoul. East Germany still won a lot of medals, but they were not as dominant in track & field as they used to be.
Actually don’t think it was about closing the gap between Rome and Seoul. It was later revealed by USA Anti Doping who retested drug samples from the 1984 Olympics that lots of the Americans were doping then. If a number of the medal winners were dirty in LA84, it’s reasonable to believe they were just as dirty here at Roma87
This was way before Jamaica invested heavily on Track and Fields.
Nope , it was before DRUG TESTING became a thing. ALL the women who beat the Jamaicans eventually tested positive for performance enhancing substances.
jussayin mipeece Its well known that Jamaica is doping too, a lot of jamaican athletes already tested positive Asafa Powell, Nesta Carter. I am sure Jamacains were doping back then as well but i suppose their training and sport programm was not even close to that from the GDR.
Agreatshow by the east German quartet.
...Wrong...there was NEVER a time when all athletes were 'caught taking dope"..!
Those days was track and dope running🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️
Even the us teams were not clean
Some how at that time.
Now it's 300% dope.
@amupala There were cover for by the USTA !
Not relly..marion jones started using in late 90s and NEVER got caught..she confess. I wonder how many others are in the same situation. I think its a level playing field..always been.
Finally, and intelligent answer.
Marion jones got caught
Tableta azul. Frijol Azul
well.actually not really..if u look at their relay team, its almost the same prson year after year (except those who retired of course). In 1988, Dreschler is the fastest 100m runner for them but still not included in the relay - they stick to their usual team - gladisch, behrendt, auerswald, gohr.
Yes if you have added help...extra boost ...shall we say.......Truth will out ....
yup..they clock almost similar time with the one here but could only manage bronze. US and USSR did 3:15 - superfast..!!
ok, thanks. I knew I had seen it here before. there were some great women on the US team. Cheeseborough, Brisko hooks. would be great to see it again
you do know that they ALL tested positive for drugs , right? Thats why they beat Jamaica and france and the smaller countries who were all clean.
@@jussayinmipeece1069 No they beat because they were the best at that time. Only the doped up Eastern Europeans could beat. Just as Black American women did in the 60s pre-steroids.🤔
Flack...wow...joy of winning
Where were the East German Men? Why weren't they dominating on the track? They were never overwhelming favorites. Now it's known why.
The men were were dominating....on the women's side.
NO NO dont say that soo....
If you want a serious reply, something like say testosterone is already in abundance in a man, so adding more would yield small improvement if any. However, as testosterone is scarce in a woman, adding some to an already world class athlete could yield records that still haven't been broken.
@@edbears5725 😄😄😄😄
@@edbears5725 Not true! You need to study more! Men add more steroids test! And they play savage at football! BODY BUILDERS TURN INTO BULLS🐂🐺🐃🐂🐂🐂
The ones that finished at the back were the clean ones.they actually won.mericans started developing riods around this period and caught up to them
Good
They had good results but with Flo Jo being there, GDR women had no chance in the sprint (100m 200m) still they won 2 bronzes. In the 400 the big favorite Marita Koch had retired already 2 years before, yet the won silver. Gold and silver in the 800m ...
So they had good results overall, is just that flo jo overshawed them i think.
Don't even look tired
why were the GDR and russian men running in womens race?
Because both US and UK men participated in the race
anyone have the 4x400 womens from 1984 olympics?
David McAffrey - Ten years later, here you go: ruclips.net/video/iPUHV_-Q4DY/видео.html
Steroid or not, GDR superiority is evident here once again. The bottom line is more training makes better athletes.
Where are the great German athletes today?
Do the Germans have less training nowadays?
@@harimaumalaya9134 A lot less, apparently!😅😅😅😅
So true, and steroids reduce recovery time allowing more hard workouts.
@@waynehentley4332 Das Land ist im Arsch.
I miss Ron Pickering’s commentary
Yes he was head and shoulders above anything that passes for commentary today.
@@stevebbukRubbish!!
And, of course, americans are never on steroids, you think so tariqziyad?
That was an absolutely awful exchange from the Americans on the second to third leg. Awful. Why didn't the incoming runner move outside to pass the baton? Real lack of concentration there. It may not have mattered in the end but they gave up any hope to push the Soviets in part because of that.
The Soviet girl was blocking her. That's why!
There was now way the American women were going beat that mens 4X4 relay team that day. If they had, you’d be accusing them of drugs lol
sabine looke bushed
Tim Robinson You'll never be a comedian 🙂
missed marita koch!
Ahhh, the good old days, before they got caught doping all the athletes...
Like the Americans don't cheat.They've been doping it up since the day's of Bullet Roid Bob Hayes
the 100 m athletes of today look doped af
@@RickyMoszczynski Everyone dopes except for the Chinese!
4x400mg
The East Germans have got nice legs - just saying.
lucaboden LOL
@lucaboden Typical ass.
@lucaboden Women don't have dicks. Didn't you know ?
Where was the czeck team?
They lost both their star sprinters to retirement in 1987. (Both Jarmila Kratachvilova and Tatiana Kocembova called it quits). Without them, the Czechs had no team
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Ютуб, вам надо сладить за качеством видео, автор негодяй за этот плохой ролик, он деньги берёт
all those europeans were on steroids
So was the Americans😂😂😂😂on dope!
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these were secret sex change .
They were not and you know it! Virilized? Yes. Transgender? No!!
Heidi Krieger
👍👍👍
THE EAST GERMANS BEST. I AM FAN.
RUSSIANS BEAT THEM LATER ON! RUSSIA STILL HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD
Yes they are my favourite also
The rest of the world had caught up with them in the doping game.
So Team drugs win, another Team drugs take silver, the US in 3rd, Canada in 4th, West Germany 5th. Are these medals ever going to get redistributed to their rightful owners?
No. Since their drug taking was not proven, their medals and times will not be removed.
The legs on those gold and silver medal winners do not look like juiced legs.
So ... in your words, the US-Team was not doped? Oh please!
Haha lol you moron imbecile, what if i told you they were all drugged and US possibly was more drugged then others?
The US team were drugged too.....don't doubt it.
Люблю и горжусь Советским спиртом!!!)))
WOW !!!!...Drugs aside these MEN all ran well!!!!!
Alemania Oriental.obtuvo muchas marcas producto de un programa de dopaje gubernamental Verguenza para el deporte¡
0 dope
DDR !
Oh..the good old days of East German and Russian Doping! Some of them had that much testosterone.. They were barely even women... Sustained and Systematically enhanced. They were very good at it.
THE AMERICANS WERE EVEN BETTER AT DOPING! THEY JUST DON'T/ didn't have the talents of the RUSSIANS😂😂😂😂
It was a FAIR race.
@@kurtfrancis4621 Yes in terms of doping.
USA Doping.
@@jensolepoulsen4377. women's 4 × 400 relay at the 2000 Sydney Olympics and 2004 Athens - USA won on Doping. Officially confirmed. but medals tu USA scammers. left.
valerie brisco makes awful changes 1987 and 1988 both terrible!!
She was always a bad hand-off lady. Her arm carriage was/is a disaster.
@@kurtfrancis4621 If she was doped-up she would have won both times.
Cheats
I cant watch most sports anymore as doping as ruined it for me.
Sir, i and my friend think "cheats", is a terrible thing to call USA athletes. Peace.
日テレ実況バージョンはないの？
英語じゃあ意味不明
lol
Yep on drugs !
It was a fair race.
Socialistic sportsmen's the best!
In taking drugs, yes...
@@michaelmosblech4824 the United States ate the most
German woman are the best
Not anymore!🤪🤪
Drug mules!
One-word steroids,lol
Drug assisted!
To be honest i always prefer European teams and athletes to be the champions rather than american all the black teams.
You won't see many European white champions in the future! Sorry!🤪🤪
@@waynehentley4332 Nobody knows it, don't be so sure. It depends to the sport also.
@@kamuranDeliormanli Very few champions in athletics! Sorry! You racist jerk!😅😅
@@waynehentley4332 And too many in other Atletism 🤪. If i am racist so you are racist 😅
Carter had to make a decision, on whether or not to send our American Team over to the Soviet Union. You may have forgotten, that the Cold War was going on. If you were President at this time, what would you have done!!! It was not an easy choice, but in terms of him being useless or him making a right choice, I would have went with keeping them home, also. If something would have happened to our Team, then he would have been blamed. Food for thought.
except these 1987 worlds were held in Rome
U.S. women would have been creamed in 1980 in Moscow. They'd been lucky to win any medals. Carter saved them from utter embarrassment!😃
@@waynehentley4332 In general, this would've been true. Evelyn Ashford would've done well coming off her 1979 World Cup wins - she had already decided to become a "player" on the world stage. Jodi Anderson may have snuck in for a long jump or pentathlon bronze. Kate Schmidt, too, or Karin Smith in the javelin. Mary Decker may have gotten a medal, but probably not. As for the rest of the team, they'd been lucky to be in the semis.
@@kurtfrancis4621 Ashford was injured and would not have competed.
@@kurtfrancis4621 learn your History. Americans were the women to beat, especially Black Americans because they dominated the entire decade of the 1960s in Track and Field. American Men kicked enough ass to keep the American Press. Your stuck on these women, had the Eastern Bloc Countries not used steroids Black America woman would have continued their domination of Track & Field. White American women would have dominated swimming. It wasn't just the East-Germans. Bulgarians, Czechoslovakian, Poles, Yugoslavia all were doped up during 70s a d 80s. It was the Cold War.