If the cops arrest the wrong person on a valid arrest warrant for someone else with the same name, does that violate the Fourth Amendment? Well, it depends...
Where & when does an arrest exactly and actually take place, being cuffed, being placed in a cop car, being transported or actually being booked into a holding unit and meeting with a magistrate/judge? Like, when does Habeas Corpus kick in?
The courts' various findings on reasonableness are not reasonable. The courts need to be leaning toward the individual and be harsher against the state and its agents.
I think based on limited information the officer had (i.e. no warrant with a matching photo, limited info) and getting confirmation from dispatch this would fall under qualified immunity. Even though I advocate for people's rights while interacting with police, this just seems like a simple stupid mistake.
Honestly, I believe cops lie as part of their job anymore. They want us to tell the truth, but they have no such requirement to be truthful or abstanding people which is why we should end qualified immunity and get rid of them
Yep, further proof why you should NEVER cooperate with the police. Even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong they may kidnap you and use their qualified immunity to avoid responsibility.
Come on now you know how ONLY criminals move things out of storage units. Totally suspicious. How can we expect our neighbors in blue to look both names AND birth dates when they get tunnel vision.
Right that is the case, but still no money here, copd didn't book him, didn't beat him up and took him back to where he wanted to go. Cop lied to citizen and his boss, no doubt lied in his reports and would certainly lie in court under oath about it. At least this guy didn't tense up when being cuffed get thrown on the ground for resisting and take a beating for having the same name as someone else. Maybe he should have that's where the money is.
@@gridtac2911 I remember when I was 6 or 7 years old my grandmother was walking me to school and we had to cross an unprotected intersection with cars passing by. I was trying to cross telling her pedestrians had the right away, Grandma was holding me back saying I was right and I might be dead right. I think that lesson might be applied here too.
@@rsmith3062I almost got hemmed up over being arrested to failing to appear when they sent the notices to an old address. Rookie cop tried to forcefully cuffed me on purpose to see if he could get a resisting and get his first beating but it was too obvious to me how nervous he was, close call for sure, took the $180 extortion effort to support his career
Soviet Union was a great thing, regurgitate that BS. In this case you need to blame the German nazis instead. For it is the USSR that got the nazis to surrender, and it is also the Russian that suffered the most lost in the war. Don't insult your protector. And NATO was also said to be put up to secure that never an uprising the like of the nazis append again. Yet they are now trying to get a neo-nazis to join in by Zelensky. People are very confused and the establishment is having a blast about it.
I haven't, but my bride lost whole branches of her kin between 1937 and 1945, in a place pulled by "police" who could demand "papers/IDing info for ANYONE! So I am a tad uptight about this issue.
@@PaulArtmanso sorry 1000s of people were lost during that time. And if you tried to stand up against the persecution you were killed or sent to concentration camps. Read a book by Corrie Ten Boom. A Christian girl who couldn't stand to see her Jewish neighbors persecuted. A very sad and moving story . And yes there are alot of similarities 😢
It can end your life. If this victim had gotten even a little upset, raised his voice, or demanded to know why he was being chained and kidnapped he could easily have ended up dead in that parking lot, and his family dead beside him.
@@Kurgosh1 correct. If he had questioned the officer in any way, he would have been thrown to the ground , beat, tazed, pepper sprayed and arrested for resisting and assault upon an officer.
There is one poor fellow that was arrested & held in jail for days because he had donut icing on the floor of his car which the cops said was crack. Falsely arrested & booked (testing did eventually prove him innocent) but by law he CAN NOT get it removed from his record so future employers doing a background check will find this & there goes any chance of getting the job. So yeah, one bad cop decision can destroy a person's life for life.
@TheFalconerNZ Yep! I heard about that case too. Imagine that.... Getting a "drug charge" for donut icing, and then not being able to get it removed even after it is known to be an erroneous charge. That tells us how fucked the system really is and how little our lives matter to them. The less interaction you have with cops or govt officials, the better. They're prone to ruining your life without even batting an eye.
I dated a guy who was dating a dispatcher. She managed to "confirm" I had a warrant for "failure to innoculate a dog for rabies & FTA". I got in front of a judge before they figured out it wasn't me. I was living in a college dorm at the time, was barely 19 & never owned my own dog as of yet. Nice lady 😮
Fun fact: the police are having such a hard time hiring dispatchers that they released a statement In California saying that they're willing to hire people with misdemeanor and felony convictions... Now I see why. When you become a police dispatcher you don't become a cop Meaning you don't get the same privileges that they get and you're actually closer to them and quite literally in the line of fire of corrupt bastards like this as we can see here in this video. When you take a job in law enforcement that is anything other than being a cop you are putting yourself at huge potential risk again as we can see here
My thoughts too. If he would have admitted he made the mistake and owned it I could let it slide, but he's not gonna learn from his mistake if he's blaming other people. He should be fired and never allowed to be an officer in this country again
This was totally on the cop. Shame on him for trying to throw the dispatcher under the bus. He recorded himself the entire time yet he continues to lie.
In this country it should be about “We the People” instead it’s us against the police unions. We do have the power to take this country back from the tyrants. That cop lied on the police report, he liked to the man he arrested and his supervisor. The supervisor probably gave him an attaboy….
I was going to make this same comment. No crime no ID, if the cop escalates and forces an ID then you stand on better ground later! This video should be a teaching tool of why you don't give a cop an ID just because the cop asks for it!
This is so true. When you make a mistake and immediately take full responsibility, in most cases, that's the end of the story. When you try to cover up the mistake, the mistake gets even worst. Now he has a dispatcher pissed off at him, he lied to his superiors about what happened, and everyone in department now knows he's a big dumb doofus. Everyone makes mistakes and a simple admission that he "f*cked up" is all that it would have taken to keep his body cam video from going viral on different RUclips channels. The "cover up" is now worst than the mistake.
@@realSethMeyers Exactly; if cop says ‘whoops, that’s 100% my fault!’, then it’s a sweet setup for an easy payment. If the guy who was wrongfully arrested thinks that it was a miscommunication and 2-3 people are involved, he’s less likely to seek legal counsel.
It should be considered a much bigger deal to take anyone into custody. Civil rights are fundamental to a free society. Tolerance for things like this should be very low.
Expect more of these little mishaps, as fascism keeps rising in US. Minority rule doesnt get hold without the police force. Its going to get a lot worse.
The lies show intent .. get a restraining order to prevent FURTHER retribution while you pursue his police certification and surety bond... be safe from the liar and end a career
@@codyjudd6164 no... dispatch confirmed that there was an arrest warrant for a bradley bowman dob 3/10/1993. Dispatch has no idea who the cop is actually with or if they fit that description. also dispatch doesn't advise cops to do anything only confirm what is on their screen.
It wasn't mistaken identity it was laziness. He had all the info he needed to get it right but a casual attitude to the rights of the citizen and a clearly lazy approach to the quality of his work meant he screwed the pooch.
Imagine how fast this pig would write a ticket to someone who forgot their wallet, or lost their proof of insurance and had not put it back in the car. No oops, I made a mistake, is going to cut it.
He screwed up. He tried to correct it as best he could. He heard what he expected to hear. I think this is a good cop who screwed up and was embarrassed enough to deflect responsibility. Not perfect. Maybe not good. But not horrible. Cops are human. Hopefully her learns from this and becomes better. I get the feeling he wants to do right, but messed up here. Not evil. Just flawed.
On top of IDing completely innocent people, this cop has become so nonchalant about putting another human being in a cage, they weren't even concerned enough to make sure they had the right person.
Nothing can possibly be gained by speaking to the police. There is no situation that cannot be made catastrophically & exponentially worse by the arrival of the police.
How do we know he’s a liar in court? We don’t. Just because you’ve seen one instance where he made a dumb mistake, his whole career is built on a lie? I can’t stand Trump and will have a party when he gets convicted, but when he was president, occasionally he would say something that I agreed with.
At the point they took him from where he was in handcuffs without bothering to verify the information, he should be able to sue them. Edit: He even lied to them and say they both had the same date of birth......
With all of today's technology, one would think these warrants would include a picture of the correct person (if possible, like from a state issued ID). I'm just flabbergasted at how this can even go down and right proud of this guy, Brandon, for acting like a real stand-up guy. He conducted himself wayyyy better than I would have. Bless his heart!
His goal is to survive the encounter. I don't know why he voluntarily got back in the police car. He should have asked for the jail door to be opened and walked out of there as fast as possible.
@@billdaniels8444 yeah. Cop has been nice so far but you never know what might happen. He could be a psychopath who will drive him out into the country and kill him
To all cops: As long as you fear integrity and accountability, you are NOT the good guys! End qualified immunity! Make each officer personally liable! You want your respect back? THEN EARN OUR TRUST BACK!
Only 3 types of cops or combinations of the 3 that exist Ignorant cops, complicit cops and corrupt ones Policing for profit is not a respectable job, when in fact it’s a criminal act that’s been legalized and systematically perpetrated upon the ignorant sheeple of the world, as a need for public safety Guess they all forgot their 2nd amendment
So what if the cop had booked the guy, what if he sat in jail for a week, what if they even took him to trial, at what point does it become a 4th amendment violation? This is another example, never id to a cop unless you are legally compelled.
That happened to a man in San Antonio. Literally sat in jail for a week because the cops couldn’t admit they made a mistake. They DESPERATELY were hoping they could find something to charge him with. He lost his job because he missed a week of work.
“That’s on them, not me.” I can’t imagine having this nonexistent level of accountability in the private sector. Only in the government can people be so incompetent and refuse accountability. If my employees started saying “that’s on them, not me” we’d have a serious problem.
The issue isn't so much being a government employee as it is that police are overly unionized. My mother was a teacher and worked for the government and she faced far more scrutiny than cops do. I'm a supporter of unionization but I do believe there is such a thing as too much of a union.
@@jackcoleman1784 unions are not immune to money and power... They're actually worse because once they're captured they now control that entire sector... Unions are an abomination. Just like communism. You are using the same argument communists use for their ideology... "It's never succeeded because they weren't doing it right"... When will people like you learn?
4:33 She says 03-10-93, yet the officer has the guys identification on hand. The officer tries to blame dispatch at the jail 9:01, but this is all on him… He lies to the guy to his face 13:55 by saying “name, and date of birth”, but that’s a lie…. He doesn’t have the same date of birth…
Cops don't think that depriving someone of their basic rights is that big of a deal. Just another day at work for them. The cop didn't even ask a basic question, like name and date of birth. However, nothing will happen to the cop. Probably more training at a conference with a free lunch.
Exactly. Just as when cops are road pirating and make up a violation. They act as if it is no big deal for their victim to show up in court and take it up with a judge. It is a HUGE inconvenience for people. Cops are getting paid the whole time (probably overtime pay) and get to use government vehicles.
@RH The Officer had the persons id. More than likely when he ran it he ran it off the persons id and when he ran it more than likely entered/told dispatch the name and dob from the id. Either the dispatcher or computer gave a possible close hit. Name the same, dob close. I guess you believe criminals always produce their correct ids or give the proper id.
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn The video shows the cop finally asked the guys DOB while in the jail. The DOB didn't match. Are you suggesting the arrestee had fake id that matched the warrant but not his own DOB? If only you gave citizens that much lee way before backing a cop that illegally deprives someone of their rights. I guess when one licks boots in their spare time it affects their ability to think clearly.
Everyone makes mistakes. I get that. What upset me the most was the fact that he took absolutely no accountability for his mistake, and just blames everyone else, and then lies. Once you lie, then it is no longer an “honest” mistake.
Your premise is incorrect. A lie after the fact does not change your intent before the fact. If you look for reasons to be outraged, you'll find it. Do you work for a living? Have you ever made an honest but major mistake, then stretched the truth a bit to minimize any negligence or incompetence on your part? A mistake that could cost you a suspension, slow your career advancement, make it difficult to get hired elsewhere in your industry or even get you fired? His lie wasn't planting evidence or filing a bogus resisting or loitering charge to justify the arrest. As soon as he realized he was wrong he released him and drove him where he needed to go. The cop made a mistake that is 💯 understandable. This is not the incident to get on the soapbox and lose our s**t over. It makes you seem unreasonable when you see evil in this video.
As Benjamin Franklin said - "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer." I guess that got lost in translation.
I was married to a cop. The longer he worked in LE the worse his lies got. He lied about the dumbest stuff so often that I don't think he even realized he was doing it. He'd lie like this in front of my kids and they'd look at me like, "Um... he just lied about something we know isn't true." So glad we didn't have kids together!
That's exactly what I've been saying about cops for a long time, they're so used to lying it's second nature to them. Lies roll off the tongue, escalated and exaggerated when written in reports then when call to they will testify under oath in court to the lies. I hope your husband wasn't one of the violent wife beaters too.
Do you understand what would happen if he got, oh, lets say angry and combative? He would be in jail for 'assault': for YEARS. He will need a good therapist to get over this: imagine getting raped, and the only way out is to be nice to the rapist...
He did say during the video that he never had any interactions with law-enforcement “in this county”. Which means it’s likely he’s had law enforcement contact in other places and wasn’t quite sure whether the warrant was legitimate.
@@markstuber4731 idk if I knew I was completely innocent and the cops want to take me away I might throw a fit and atleast ask them to check again before literally driving me to jail.
I remember seeing this when it first came out and the officer doesn't check the D.O.B. Then stupidly arrests the guy, transports him, even though he has some doubt he has the right person...That has to be a law suit every day of the week.
Even after the officer realized his mistake due to the date of birth, he still claimed that they had the same name AND date of birth just to cover his ass. That's the part that bothers me the most.
And after all that, he couldn't remember the guy's first name. This is the key feature of so many of these interactions. Blaze ahead, details be damned.
The LARGE neon sign reads, "OPEN". People loading items from a storage unit? THE HORROR! I don't think the lazy cop even had a valid reason to ID them.
The police officer knows they can be there. He stated to dispatch " tell me the items they are not to take". He had no lawful reason to ask for anything!!!
To 99% of these people, it's just about getting to play cop, getting to strut around feeling important-n-powerful, cuffing or barking orders at people while others watch, they are truly a sickening bunch.
I was a newspaper reporter before the media went insane and stopped reporting news. Covered courts/cops/fire. Most of the police officers and sheriff's deputies possessed the same high school bully mentality. The job definitely attracts a certain personality type, and not a good one.
Taking someone out of their life because you didn’t take a second to read the date of birth is unreasonable and there should be a consequence for theft of this man’s time.
No it should be way worse than that..what would it be considered if you took someone like this and if you did do you think an oops my bad will make it ok and it would all just go away..the man was taken against his will because of the officers negligence..the standards they should be held to should be higher than an average citizens and punishments should be higher too because they know better and yet punishments are a tenth of that of average person if any at all..in my town a cop got caught trafficking drugs which is a 3 year mandatory minimum and he never spent 10 seconds in a cell wasn't that nice of the justice and law enforcement to do for the POS meanwhile everybody else would be going to prison..
With fairly common names it’s not unusual for two such individuals to share a DOB as well. Just these two elements alone should be considered insufficient grounds to arrest/cuff anyone. It’s hardly any kind of accurate identification method.
The dispatcher gave the mans birthdate to the officer. The officer had the mans license, which has date of birth, and SSN. The officer failed to do due diligence, and did not fully investigate. The mans rights were violated.
Reasonableness has got to be based on due diligence. But when legal precedent already allows criminally sloppy work I guess there is not much to be done.
That word "reasonable" should be stricken from all laws & courts. It's 100% subjective. What's reasonable to 1 person at 1 time isn't reasonable at all to someone else. All it does is leave room for arguement for those who can afford it. It ensures double standards.
It's not reasonable to me. The birth date is different. He had his ID, so he had every opportunity to check and failed to do so, so arresting was unreasonable since you did not identify HIM.
This confirms 100% of my experiences with law enforcement. They always lie, even when it is not necessary. Lying is so ingrained in their culture that they do it without even giving it a thought.
Lying without giving it a thought is pathological lying. I've had the displeasure of dealing with two pathological Liars in my life. One whose lies were benign and never really hurt anyone other than tarnish his own reputation. The other on the other hand, was a true harlot with a Vengeance to destroy and make miserable everyone she came in contact with.
@@Cinicallyinsane it is Within the human psyche to lie. However, with these guys having qualified immunity and the blessing of the courts to lie puts them on a whole new level. Add to this, at least for some... There is the psychiatric attributes of pathological lying to contend with. The three together can be a can be murderous to a society.
Whether accidental or not this is an armed kidnapping as far as I am concerned. This cop performed poorly and then lied straight to the man's face. He is despicable and a pos. If I did the same thing I would be in prison.
@@trrlii913 very few laws are strict liability. They almost always need to be knowingly, recklessly, intentionally, or negligent acts. Kidnapping requires the act to be intentional. If a prosecutor can't prove intent, the law doesn't fit, and they can't prosecute.
@@jasonsherman5194 If im a doctor and cut out your healthy left lung instead of your cancerous right lung, the hospital would get a massive fine, and my license along with everyone else in the surgery would be on the line. It not intentional but it meant I and surgical team skipped tons of safety steps to prevent that kind of mistakes. If youre interested its called sentinel events by the joint commission. Why is the bar set so low for cops?
I live in Indiana, not far from this county. The officer seen an arrest and got tunnel vision even though body cam picks up the dispatcher. Then tries to cover it up so his qualified immunity takes place. We as a nation really need to stand up and abolish qualified immunity, Terry vrs Ohio, and civil asset forfeiture. We the people, not the thin blue line. We have the power, just need to stand united.
The tyrant was captivated when he *saw* that he would be making an arrest. He verified information that belonged to another by the same name. He should have *seen* the consequences if he did not verify every detail.
How many times have we heard cops ask when trying to ID some one name and date of birth, name and date of birth their like parrots and then when it's right in front of them they don't confirm it. That on it's own a reprimand, lying and blaming it dispatch he needs to fired.
"Huh. I didn't even know I had an outstanding warrant. In fact, I don't remember committing a crime in my entire life. Odd. Well, this guy seems to know what he's doing, so let's just tag along." Be water, friend. :)
I agree. In my youth I would have argued, been defiant and basically acted like a total ass. But in my youth peace officers didn't have computers in their vehicles. I could have been dragged off to the Pima County Adult Detention Center, AKA the county jail, been booked in and waited for my information to come back as "that's not me!" However, in my youth I was a heroin addict and was a regular guest at the county facility that we were on a 1st name basis and exchanged Christmas cards. In my wise, clean and sober old age I would have more than likely responded like this gentleman. He gets my Siskel and Ebert 👍. Nice going Mr. Bowman!
I'd have been objecting to providing my ID. Loudly and firmly. He didn't need anyone's ID other than the person renting the storage shed in the beginning.
It should be police protocol to verify that you have the right person BEFORE YOU ARREST THEM. They should also be trained on how to avoid "tunnel vision" and sticking to procedure. He screwed up, caught it at the station, and is blame shift. That said at least he was big enough to fix it. Remember Jennifer Heath Box? She spent 3 days in jail for the same policing mistake. Bethany Farber spent 13 days in a Los Angeles County jail for having the same name as someone listed on a warrant.
They should be poked, they should be expected to do their jobs properly and they should be expected to apologize and atone fore it when they fuck up. I had more responsibility and there were more consequences for me for forgetting to get a till, overnight at Walmart, while I managed teenagers. I didn't hold a gun and a badge and wasn't expected to be the face of my Government. If WALMART can do it why can't Police?
@@johnchallingsworth9921 and you would have ended up arrested just like this guy who thought he was being a good citizen as well. The sign on the facility says OPEN. In the winter it gets dark a 4:00 PM where i live. Also they are innocent until proven guilty and it is not the peoples job to help the cop investigate. If it was me I would have said "This is my unit and my stuff so if you get evidence saying otherwise I'll be here loading up. come talk then"
You don’t have to ID unless a cop has reasonable suspicion of a crime they can articulate. Problem is cops want ID before they do any investigation. Part of this mistaken ID/arrest situation is predicated on 4th Amendment violations.
If you were paying attention the officer was dispatched because the employee called them and made it sound like they were trespassing. So the cop was investigating a crime, which is why he was checking for ID’s. You could hear the cop tell the other one it sounded like they were called for nothing. But that was after he asked for ID and ran the names
An LEO needs RS that you may be involved in criminality. He has no obligation to articulate anything at all to you. He must be able to articulate TO THE COURT why he and other reasonable police officers, based upon his training and experience why your conduct or the situation is reasonably suspicious of POSSIBLE CRIMINALITY.
@Sunstar Contrary to YT falsehoods, LE is not required to articulate anything at all to the suspect. The requirement to id attaches at the time of detainment NOT after the investigation.
@@only1muppet that’s not trespassing works. Trespassing is being formerly asked to leave the property and refusing to leave or leaving and returning. They were never formally trespassed to being in with. Since it was over a storage unit they paid for it’s a civil dispute. Cop had ZERO jurisdiction let alone demanding ID from everyone. The ONLY reason cops demand ID is to run people for warrants. Which is exactly what he did. Incorrectly unfortunately.
What's even crazier is that he really didn't even have to ask him. He had the man's ID in his pocket the whole time, he just never bothered to check it. I mean... it's not like there could conceivably be *two* Brandon Bowman's on a planet with seven billion people.
It happens all the time as a retired cop. I used to watch it daily and when they arrest the wrong person they trump up charges to ruin that person's life instead of admitting that they did something wrong.... Welcome to the common police officer in the united states.
@@abdulwaheed116 And what? So he can get outright removed for attempting to stop them or worse? It's not as simple as you think. If it was, there wouldn't be corruption.
This guy is so f-ing polite and respectful to the tyrants who shackled him, took his property, kidnapped him took him away and then can’t even apologize to the guy, he has a Go Past Jail Card!!
Guess what would have happened if he had insisted on his rights and refused to ID himself... Then he'd REALLY be in trouble. He might not have even survived the encounter.
If I "accidentally" got into the wrong car and took it home (even if it looks a lot like my car), I would be arrested for theft. Why should cops get a free pass due to incompetence ?
@@ObservationofLimitseah but in their little bubble of the world they live in it is. It's never justified it's just what it is. So next time you want to do something just remember every religion is real and you can't believe in all of them cause you can only believe in one god. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Greek, Roman, and other multiple god worshippers are.😂😂😂😂
Yes. There are several people with the same name as mine. Even with the same public safety employment. I was called by deputies and wanted to know why I was not in court. We lived in the same county. Lol! Later, when he died, the obituary confused people. Since i was gone on a multi day shift assignment, I was not showing up at church. Church shunned my wife and family. Life can be interesting.
Poor kid cooperated with everything they asked and they could not be bothered to even check a simple thing like birth date. Oh shit we cuffed and stuffed the wrong guy. Darn.
I have seen this several times. I cannot imagine the cop not double checking before they handcuff people. I know they do. This is why they need more than 6 months of training.
More training but more importantly, harsher punishment for stupid mistakes. I had way less than 6 months training in the military but my punishment was harsh for getting it wrong.
Not if I remember the original video correctly. The man was helping someone else move their property out of a storage facility. The manager of the location wanted the group to leave, which they were doing after recovering their property. The manager was not satisfied so he called the police. Unfortunately for this man and his companions they willingly provided information to the police because they had nothing to hide and this was the result. The arrested man stated many times that he was not from the area and has had no prior interactions with law enforcement, bringing into question the arresting officer's logic behind the "missing to appear" warrant for the man with the same name.
Happened to a friend. Cop came to her door and arrested her because she had a similar name as a person with a warrant. She was processed and everything. Bad move as she was an attorney. She got a settlement but I don’t know the details. It was very traumatic, needless to say. I think the cop also kept his job.
12:51 Cop runs a red light while on talking on the phone while driving while simultaneously getting the guy's name wrong who he just unlawfully arrested. Unfuckingbelievable.
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn Wrong. The Supreme Court has established a Reasonable Articulable Suspicion (RAS) rule that must be met prior to requesting your identification.
I’ll bet if the judge was taken into custody, mistakenly, due to the laziness and incompetence of the cop, embarrassed and humiliated in front of their friends and put in handcuffs, kidnapped, I’ll bet it wouldn’t be so easily forgiven.
If the cops arrest the wrong person on a valid arrest warrant for someone else with the same name, does that violate the Fourth Amendment? Well, it depends...
Where & when does an arrest exactly and actually take place, being cuffed, being placed in a cop car, being transported or actually being booked into a holding unit and meeting with a magistrate/judge? Like, when does Habeas Corpus kick in?
@@IamrightyouarewrongIts the age old adage, "If you rob a bank, give the money back and its like you didn't even rob it."
So far from what I've seen here, YES, this man had his Fourth Amendment right violated.
The courts' various findings on reasonableness are not reasonable. The courts need to be leaning toward the individual and be harsher against the state and its agents.
I think based on limited information the officer had (i.e. no warrant with a matching photo, limited info) and getting confirmation from dispatch this would fall under qualified immunity. Even though I advocate for people's rights while interacting with police, this just seems like a simple stupid mistake.
I wish the legal system would protect and forgive citizens with the same level of care that it does the agents of the state.
Lol. I’m not holding my breath, but it’s a nice wish. ❤
Rub a lamp. 🧞 Lol.
Pigs commit more crimes than the innocent people they abuse.
100 car funeral for citizens lol
The state is your master.
Why would they?
You’ll just keep on voting.
(General “you” since I don’t know if YOU’RE ignorant enough to be a voter 🖤🫶)
A cop lied? No way man 😂
Police = COP LIE
I’m with ya, completely shocked! 😂😂
😂 Golly Gee Wally! 😂
Honestly, I believe cops lie as part of their job anymore. They want us to tell the truth, but they have no such requirement to be truthful or abstanding people which is why we should end qualified immunity and get rid of them
Unbelievable 😂😂
He checked the birthday LATE....he is a liar and did not do his job properly
It's terrifying to see how easily ANYONE could be arrested for a crime they didn't commit.
He was under no obligation to identify to begin with.
Yep, further proof why you should NEVER cooperate with the police. Even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong they may kidnap you and use their qualified immunity to avoid responsibility.
Exactly!
Come on now you know how ONLY criminals move things out of storage units. Totally suspicious. How can we expect our neighbors in blue to look both names AND birth dates when they get tunnel vision.
@@DrVincentDoom totally. My mistake. 😅😂
Unfortunately he’s buddies already showed compliance he obviously didn’t want to look bad in he’s knowledge. It’s a psychological thing
If a cop lies to cover his arse and is too dumb to listen to his dispacher, then yes there should be a case
Right that is the case, but still no money here, copd didn't book him, didn't beat him up and took him back to where he wanted to go. Cop lied to citizen and his boss, no doubt lied in his reports and would certainly lie in court under oath about it. At least this guy didn't tense up when being cuffed get thrown on the ground for resisting and take a beating for having the same name as someone else. Maybe he should have that's where the money is.
@@rsmith3062 you are legally within your rights to resist a false arrest
@@gridtac2911 only in some states.
@@gridtac2911 I remember when I was 6 or 7 years old my grandmother was walking me to school and we had to cross an unprotected intersection with cars passing by. I was trying to cross telling her pedestrians had the right away, Grandma was holding me back saying I was right and I might be dead right. I think that lesson might be applied here too.
@@rsmith3062I almost got hemmed up over being arrested to failing to appear when they sent the notices to an old address. Rookie cop tried to forcefully cuffed me on purpose to see if he could get a resisting and get his first beating but it was too obvious to me how nervous he was, close call for sure, took the $180 extortion effort to support his career
There is no situation a police officer can’t make worse.
I cringe when they often say/ were just trying to help.
Best comment, so true!
@@mgrom2 The original quote: "There is no situation so bad that it cannot be made worse by the presence of police." -William Norman Grigg
@@adambaum5824 If Grigg said that, he was quoting Irish author Brendan Behan.
Yeah, but other than being a sloppy cop, nicer than most I have run into. I was always as mello as that gentleman though. I'm talking many years ago.
What bugs me is the "Show me your papers like the Soviet Union we have become. "
Soviet Union was a great thing, regurgitate that BS. In this case you need to blame the German nazis instead. For it is the USSR that got the nazis to surrender, and it is also the Russian that suffered the most lost in the war. Don't insult your protector. And NATO was also said to be put up to secure that never an uprising the like of the nazis append again. Yet they are now trying to get a neo-nazis to join in by Zelensky. People are very confused and the establishment is having a blast about it.
The Soviet Union police are pure angels in comparison to their American counterparts.
I haven't, but my bride lost whole branches of her kin between 1937 and 1945, in a place pulled by "police" who could demand "papers/IDing info for ANYONE! So I am a tad uptight about this issue.
@@PaulArtmanso sorry 1000s of people were lost during that time. And if you tried to stand up against the persecution you were killed or sent to concentration camps. Read a book by Corrie Ten Boom. A Christian girl who couldn't stand to see her Jewish neighbors persecuted. A very sad and moving story . And yes there are alot of similarities 😢
I guess the cop was decent enough and didnt treat him poorly but simply incompetent.
A mistake by a police officer can completely change someone’s life. No accountability.
Change yep destroy absolutely
It can end your life. If this victim had gotten even a little upset, raised his voice, or demanded to know why he was being chained and kidnapped he could easily have ended up dead in that parking lot, and his family dead beside him.
@@Kurgosh1 correct. If he had questioned the officer in any way, he would have been thrown to the ground , beat, tazed, pepper sprayed and arrested for resisting and assault upon an officer.
There is one poor fellow that was arrested & held in jail for days because he had donut icing on the floor of his car which the cops said was crack. Falsely arrested & booked (testing did eventually prove him innocent) but by law he CAN NOT get it removed from his record so future employers doing a background check will find this & there goes any chance of getting the job. So yeah, one bad cop decision can destroy a person's life for life.
@TheFalconerNZ Yep! I heard about that case too. Imagine that.... Getting a "drug charge" for donut icing, and then not being able to get it removed even after it is known to be an erroneous charge. That tells us how fucked the system really is and how little our lives matter to them. The less interaction you have with cops or govt officials, the better. They're prone to ruining your life without even batting an eye.
The officer did not due his job, he lied. The officer needs to be held accountable for his error.
He also didn't do his job.
And he didn’t do his job.
Please.....if half the cops even did their job........
The other half would be in prison .
Held accountable LMAO
Armed assault, kidnapping, attempted identity theft as base charges.
If I was the dispatcher and found out the officer threw me under the bus with a blatant lie, I'd be pissed.
I dated a guy who was dating a dispatcher. She managed to "confirm" I had a warrant for "failure to innoculate a dog for rabies & FTA". I got in front of a judge before they figured out it wasn't me. I was living in a college dorm at the time, was barely 19 & never owned my own dog as of yet. Nice lady 😮
Fun fact: the police are having such a hard time hiring dispatchers that they released a statement In California saying that they're willing to hire people with misdemeanor and felony convictions... Now I see why. When you become a police dispatcher you don't become a cop Meaning you don't get the same privileges that they get and you're actually closer to them and quite literally in the line of fire of corrupt bastards like this as we can see here in this video. When you take a job in law enforcement that is anything other than being a cop you are putting yourself at huge potential risk again as we can see here
@@katiekane5247 I'd be more concerned about your statement "I was dating a guy who was dating another woman".... Dafuq?
@@gridtac2911 😂
You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
First words out of his mouth once he realizes, "That's on them, not me." 🤦♂️ Perfect example of how all government officials operate
The judge in this case is a government official and he didn't operate this way.
NOT ONLY UNREASONABLE BUT TOTALLY INCOMPETENT IN HIS JOB . AND THE FACT HE BLAMED SOMEONE ELSE FOR HIS MISTAKE SAYS A LOT ABOUT HIS CHARACTER .
AND he continued to further fabricate each time he explained the situation.
The term pathological liar comes to mind.
3 2 93
My thoughts too. If he would have admitted he made the mistake and owned it I could let it slide, but he's not gonna learn from his mistake if he's blaming other people. He should be fired and never allowed to be an officer in this country again
He's a narcissist
This is what happens when education and honesty aren't priorities in the hiring process.
They ARE priorities, as they really want the dumbest of the dumbs, and if possible the most dishonest ones too.
💯 %
Education is a foreign word for American cops, you've seen it so many time🤢
Honesty, education and integrity have become American bywords. Repent
Except this is a great example of what a standard American cop used to be like. He doesn’t fit the narrative so why associate it with him?
"It's more on us than it is on you." Good grief. None of it is on that poor guy.
And why do they never confirm middle names? Wouldn't that solve the problem before you have a false arrest
They need to. I live in this county and there are 3 other people that I know of with my name here.
This was totally on the cop. Shame on him for trying to throw the dispatcher under the bus. He recorded himself the entire time yet he continues to lie.
Why would anyone expect a cop to tell the truth? They work for themselves not We The People
It's a bloody boys club...with hardly any true detectives. Cold cases help a lot and active cases need the FBI 🐼🐼
Let’s start with the obvious…… had the cop not been so quick to grab id’s and run everyone’s name, it could have been avoided
I expect cops to lie all of the time and cover up for their fellow masonic Blue Line gang members.
No People. Only individuals
In this country it should be about “We the People” instead it’s us against the police unions. We do have the power to take this country back from the tyrants. That cop lied on the police report, he liked to the man he arrested and his supervisor. The supervisor probably gave him an attaboy….
This is why you do not ID to law enforcement when you've committed no crime. Let them investigate but you don't have to help them investigate.
Unless they arrest you anyway …..
I was going to make this same comment. No crime no ID, if the cop escalates and forces an ID then you stand on better ground later! This video should be a teaching tool of why you don't give a cop an ID just because the cop asks for it!
RJ
People are frightened of the police. Someday they will snap and the police will be frightened of them.
@@toolegittoquit_001 Then you Lawyer up and pay good money to get good money back lmfaoo.
Till I know the facts I'll handcuff you...sounds like this cop is a menace humanity
What crime did they commit to get IDs ? None
The crime is not checking the dates on his drivers license
WE'RE not allowed to make mistakes, so THEY'RE not allowed to make mistakes. Sue them for wrongful arrest.
You don’t get it-they’re above the law. 😂
In a JUST system, he would be charged criminally for kidnapping, not just sued.
And lots of yenom.
kidnapping and false imprisonment
He’ll lose in the 7th Circuit. Didn’t you pay attention at the end of video?
Confirming someone’s identity matches a warrant is so basic even a 5 yr old can do it.
Considering there are 3 things that to match name age ss number.
Pretty easy to match.
@@theresahall3912 His Driver License should be that 3rd leg of the stool, not necessarily his SSN.
I work in a hospital. I confirm somebody's identity at least 30 times a night. It's really freaking easy.
@@MtgCoach I just said that he had match those 3 things nothing about the order.
Proves cops are not very intelligent
"I screwed up. I'm sorry." The five most difficult words for cops to say.
This is so true. When you make a mistake and immediately take full responsibility, in most cases, that's the end of the story. When you try to cover up the mistake, the mistake gets even worst. Now he has a dispatcher pissed off at him, he lied to his superiors about what happened, and everyone in department now knows he's a big dumb doofus. Everyone makes mistakes and a simple admission that he "f*cked up" is all that it would have taken to keep his body cam video from going viral on different RUclips channels. The "cover up" is now worst than the mistake.
They'll never apologize because their unions teach them not to. No admissions of fault, gotta hold the line.
It will never happen. Excuses and copsplainin yes.
And "cameras are perfectly legal"
@@realSethMeyers Exactly; if cop says ‘whoops, that’s 100% my fault!’, then it’s a sweet setup for an easy payment. If the guy who was wrongfully arrested thinks that it was a miscommunication and 2-3 people are involved, he’s less likely to seek legal counsel.
This is why you NEVER give them an ID, unless they have REASONABLE ARTICULABLE SUSPICION of a crime!!!
It should be considered a much bigger deal to take anyone into custody. Civil rights are fundamental to a free society. Tolerance for things like this should be very low.
Kidnapping
But the Gestapo always let’s you go after a good FUCKING-IF-you comply! Just learn how to suck small steroid sick.
Expect more of these little mishaps, as fascism keeps rising in US. Minority rule doesnt get hold without the police force. Its going to get a lot worse.
This is the best comment I read this year. Well written!
Someone should be fired bare minimum.
The lies show intent .. get a restraining order to prevent FURTHER retribution while you pursue his police certification and surety bond... be safe from the liar and end a career
Dispatch didn’t arrest the man; dispatch didn’t slap the cuffs on him, and dispatch didn’t kidnap the man, that lone individual cop did.
At the advisory of dispatch.
@@codyjudd6164 so totally what qualified immunity was designed for.
@djfassler pretty much yeah, that way no one person is held accountable for what they do.
@@codyjudd6164 no... dispatch confirmed that there was an arrest warrant for a bradley bowman dob 3/10/1993. Dispatch has no idea who the cop is actually with or if they fit that description. also dispatch doesn't advise cops to do anything only confirm what is on their screen.
@Raymond Fate I did rewatch that part, and yeah, dispatch was good. That was the officer not doing his due diligence.
I just love how the cop stares at the ID card again and again, as if it's going to somehow magically change if he stares at it enough.
He’s hoping to find a smudge or scratch to claim the ID is fake
It wasn't mistaken identity it was laziness. He had all the info he needed to get it right but a casual attitude to the rights of the citizen and a clearly lazy approach to the quality of his work meant he screwed the pooch.
He could have gone to teletype on scene for all info needed. He was lazy. Dispatch already told him. He just wanted to haul him in.
Imagine how fast this pig would write a ticket to someone who forgot their wallet, or lost their proof of insurance and had not put it back in the car. No oops, I made a mistake, is going to cut it.
@Monkey Funk You are absolutely correct. The officer possessed zero integrity during this false arrest and should be held accountable.
Not laziness, incompetence.
He screwed up. He tried to correct it as best he could. He heard what he expected to hear. I think this is a good cop who screwed up and was embarrassed enough to deflect responsibility. Not perfect. Maybe not good. But not horrible. Cops are human. Hopefully her learns from this and becomes better. I get the feeling he wants to do right, but messed up here. Not evil. Just flawed.
On top of IDing completely innocent people, this cop has become so nonchalant about putting another human being in a cage, they weren't even concerned enough to make sure they had the right person.
Goddamn . Can you imagine what may have happened if the other guy with the same name had been known to be armed and dangerous ?
so the cop doesn’t check the DOB before he cuffed him 🤦🏻♀️
Nothing can possibly be gained by speaking to the police. There is no situation that cannot be made catastrophically & exponentially worse by the arrival of the police.
Ok genius...say someone has you at gunpoint and held hostage... who's gonna come save you?
@@fcukyou2_ The cops will get you killed, genius.
Imagine the lies this proven liar of a cop tells in court.
How do we know he’s a liar in court? We don’t. Just because you’ve seen one instance where he made a dumb mistake, his whole career is built on a lie?
I can’t stand Trump and will have a party when he gets convicted, but when he was president, occasionally he would say something that I agreed with.
This cop is the walking talking definition of a pathological liar. He just couldn't stop.
At the point they took him from where he was in handcuffs without bothering to verify the information, he should be able to sue them.
Edit: He even lied to them and say they both had the same date of birth......
With all of today's technology, one would think these warrants would include a picture of the correct person (if possible, like from a state issued ID). I'm just flabbergasted at how this can even go down and right proud of this guy, Brandon, for acting like a real stand-up guy. He conducted himself wayyyy better than I would have. Bless his heart!
This poor guy is so civil even after the false arrest and accusations.
His goal is to survive the encounter. I don't know why he voluntarily got back in the police car. He should have asked for the jail door to be opened and walked out of there as fast as possible.
@@billdaniels8444 yeah. Cop has been nice so far but you never know what might happen. He could be a psychopath who will drive him out into the country and kill him
He probably thought the pigs would do the Right Thing. No honor at all. Time to bell the damn cat. Mark these sucker as liars. The war has begun.
To all cops: As long as you fear integrity and accountability, you are NOT the good guys! End qualified immunity! Make each officer personally liable! You want your respect back? THEN EARN OUR TRUST BACK!
100%
Bang on the mark
And still the Sventh sided with the cops!
Narcissists couldn't give a crap about your respect.
Only 3 types of cops or combinations of the 3 that exist
Ignorant cops, complicit cops and corrupt ones
Policing for profit is not a respectable job, when in fact it’s a criminal act that’s been legalized and systematically perpetrated upon the ignorant sheeple of the world, as a need for public safety
Guess they all forgot their 2nd amendment
This is what happens when you comply when you’re not legally obligated to do so.
This is a perfect example of why you should refuse to ID yourself. This guy figured he was ok, so what's the harm in handing over your license?
Never ever ever ever talk to cops. And ALWAYS FILM THEM!!
@BRIANEWEIS exactly, they try to run everybody's id in hopes of finding warrants. best not to give id. there's really no need to even talk to them.
the cop had a call for possible theft. That gives him PC to id all parties
@@joependleton6714not true if he would do his job & investigate he would know there was no crime
They really hate being wrong. They will lie and do anything else but apologize or acknowledge they messed up.
So what if the cop had booked the guy, what if he sat in jail for a week, what if they even took him to trial, at what point does it become a 4th amendment violation?
This is another example, never id to a cop unless you are legally compelled.
Bethany K. Farber...Google her story
@@anthonyoer4778 Thanks for the breadcrumbs. I just read an article.... thank goodness this guy wasn't held for 2 weeks like she was.
That happened to a man in San Antonio. Literally sat in jail for a week because the cops couldn’t admit they made a mistake. They DESPERATELY were hoping they could find something to charge him with. He lost his job because he missed a week of work.
“That’s on them, not me.” I can’t imagine having this nonexistent level of accountability in the private sector. Only in the government can people be so incompetent and refuse accountability. If my employees started saying “that’s on them, not me” we’d have a serious problem.
The issue isn't so much being a government employee as it is that police are overly unionized. My mother was a teacher and worked for the government and she faced far more scrutiny than cops do. I'm a supporter of unionization but I do believe there is such a thing as too much of a union.
@@jackcoleman1784 unions are not immune to money and power... They're actually worse because once they're captured they now control that entire sector... Unions are an abomination. Just like communism. You are using the same argument communists use for their ideology... "It's never succeeded because they weren't doing it right"... When will people like you learn?
4:33 She says 03-10-93, yet the officer has the guys identification on hand. The officer tries to blame dispatch at the jail 9:01, but this is all on him… He lies to the guy to his face 13:55 by saying “name, and date of birth”, but that’s a lie…. He doesn’t have the same date of birth…
He says “dispatch confirmed the wrong person “. They didn’t. HE DID.
@@karinaz8756 Personal accountability and integrity, are two very important things, that this country is lacking in almost every facet of its nature.
Abolish qualified, judicial and prosecuratorial immunity
Cops don't think that depriving someone of their basic rights is that big of a deal. Just another day at work for them.
The cop didn't even ask a basic question, like name and date of birth.
However, nothing will happen to the cop. Probably more training at a conference with a free lunch.
Exactly. Just as when cops are road pirating and make up a violation. They act as if it is no big deal for their victim to show up in court and take it up with a judge. It is a HUGE inconvenience for people. Cops are getting paid the whole time (probably overtime pay) and get to use government vehicles.
At worst, a couple of days paid vacation, maybe.
@RH The Officer had the persons id. More than likely when he ran it he ran it off the persons id and when he ran it more than likely entered/told dispatch the name and dob from the id. Either the dispatcher or computer gave a possible close hit. Name the same, dob close. I guess you believe criminals always produce their correct ids or give the proper id.
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn “Possible close hit”?? NO CIGAR!
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn The video shows the cop finally asked the guys DOB while in the jail. The DOB didn't match. Are you suggesting the arrestee had fake id that matched the warrant but not his own DOB?
If only you gave citizens that much lee way before backing a cop that illegally deprives someone of their rights.
I guess when one licks boots in their spare time it affects their ability to think clearly.
Everyone makes mistakes. I get that. What upset me the most was the fact that he took absolutely no accountability for his mistake, and just blames everyone else, and then lies. Once you lie, then it is no longer an “honest” mistake.
What was crazy is when the cop told the guy it’s more on us then you. It’s 100% on the cops.
It's narcissism.
@@normbograham closer to cowardice...
Your premise is incorrect. A lie after the fact does not change your intent before the fact. If you look for reasons to be outraged, you'll find it. Do you work for a living? Have you ever made an honest but major mistake, then stretched the truth a bit to minimize any negligence or incompetence on your part? A mistake that could cost you a suspension, slow your career advancement, make it difficult to get hired elsewhere in your industry or even get you fired?
His lie wasn't planting evidence or filing a bogus resisting or loitering charge to justify the arrest. As soon as he realized he was wrong he released him and drove him where he needed to go. The cop made a mistake that is 💯 understandable. This is not the incident to get on the soapbox and lose our s**t over. It makes you seem unreasonable when you see evil in this video.
@@patrickledonne5547 Nobody wants MORE copsplaining piggy.
As Benjamin Franklin said - "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer." I guess that got lost in translation.
Thats the cost of living in a free society!
I AM 73, I DO NOT SIR THOSE WHO DO NOT OUTRANK ME OR ARE NOT MY SUPERIOR AND BEING ARMED DOES NOT MAKE THEM SUPERIOR TO ME, ONLY MORE OPPRESSIVE.
I was married to a cop. The longer he worked in LE the worse his lies got.
He lied about the dumbest stuff so often that I don't think he even realized he was doing it.
He'd lie like this in front of my kids and they'd look at me like, "Um... he just lied about something we know isn't true." So glad we didn't have kids together!
That's exactly what I've been saying about cops for a long time, they're so used to lying it's second nature to them. Lies roll off the tongue, escalated and exaggerated when written in reports then when call to they will testify under oath in court to the lies. I hope your husband wasn't one of the violent wife beaters too.
So glad you got out of that marriage.
@@ericwieboldt7042 ME TOO!
Checks out!
Did he abuse you too?
This is what happens when it takes a hairdresser longer to get certified than a police officer.
or a dog groomer.
Lol I was just talking about the same thing tew my sister just today..... Barber vs police certificates.... It's a major problem.
We're definitely living in a police state.
Why are cops not even held to same standards as citizens?
Come on ya'll, It's all about the glazed donuts. The gentleman was super lucky.. The tyrants in blue like to ruff up the peeps with warrants.
It’s amazing how calm this guy is while he’s being falsely arrested
Do you understand what would happen if he got, oh, lets say angry and combative? He would be in jail for 'assault': for YEARS.
He will need a good therapist to get over this: imagine getting raped, and the only way out is to be nice to the rapist...
It called being a man .
He did say during the video that he never had any interactions with law-enforcement “in this county”. Which means it’s likely he’s had law enforcement contact in other places and wasn’t quite sure whether the warrant was legitimate.
😂BAAAAAA!
@@markstuber4731 idk if I knew I was completely innocent and the cops want to take me away I might throw a fit and atleast ask them to check again before literally driving me to jail.
Cop was so excited that he thought he caught someone, he didn't even listen for the date of birth at the first encounter.
I remember seeing this when it first came out and the officer doesn't check the D.O.B. Then stupidly arrests the guy, transports him, even though he has some doubt he has the right person...That has to be a law suit every day of the week.
Even after the officer realized his mistake due to the date of birth, he still claimed that they had the same name AND date of birth just to cover his ass. That's the part that bothers me the most.
And after all that, he couldn't remember the guy's first name. This is the key feature of so many of these interactions. Blaze ahead, details be damned.
The LARGE neon sign reads, "OPEN". People loading items from a storage unit? THE HORROR! I don't think the lazy cop even had a valid reason to ID them.
All the people who say "if you have nothing to hide then you should present your ID" should take note.
The police officer knows they can be there. He stated to dispatch " tell me the items they are not to take". He had no lawful reason to ask for anything!!!
To 99% of these people, it's just about getting to play cop, getting to strut around feeling important-n-powerful, cuffing or barking orders at people while others watch, they are truly a sickening bunch.
Aka tyrants with egos
I was a newspaper reporter before the media went insane and stopped reporting news. Covered courts/cops/fire. Most of the police officers and sheriff's deputies possessed the same high school bully mentality. The job definitely attracts a certain personality type, and not a good one.
so jerry why don't you go out and join the force....start the movement!
Taking someone out of their life because you didn’t take a second to read the date of birth is unreasonable and there should be a consequence for theft of this man’s time.
i think 200 dollars an hour or so is just compensation.
No it should be way worse than that..what would it be considered if you took someone like this and if you did do you think an oops my bad will make it ok and it would all just go away..the man was taken against his will because of the officers negligence..the standards they should be held to should be higher than an average citizens and punishments should be higher too because they know better and yet punishments are a tenth of that of average person if any at all..in my town a cop got caught trafficking drugs which is a 3 year mandatory minimum and he never spent 10 seconds in a cell wasn't that nice of the justice and law enforcement to do for the POS meanwhile everybody else would be going to prison..
You mean kidnapping?
He's in the systems data base now so maybe more mistakes coming for this man
With fairly common names it’s not unusual for two such individuals to share a DOB as well. Just these two elements alone should be considered insufficient grounds to arrest/cuff anyone. It’s hardly any kind of accurate identification method.
The dispatcher gave the mans birthdate to the officer. The officer had the mans license, which has date of birth, and SSN. The officer failed to do due diligence, and did not fully investigate. The mans rights were violated.
Reasonableness has got to be based on due diligence. But when legal precedent already allows criminally sloppy work I guess there is not much to be done.
That word "reasonable" should be stricken from all laws & courts.
It's 100% subjective. What's reasonable to 1 person at 1 time isn't reasonable at all to someone else.
All it does is leave room for arguement for those who can afford it.
It ensures double standards.
It's not reasonable to me. The birth date is different. He had his ID, so he had every opportunity to check and failed to do so, so arresting was unreasonable since you did not identify HIM.
This confirms 100% of my experiences with law enforcement. They always lie, even when it is not necessary. Lying is so ingrained in their culture that they do it without even giving it a thought.
They lie because every judge rules that a cop's word is better than yours and that cops always are "reliable witnesses".
Lying without giving it a thought is pathological lying. I've had the displeasure of dealing with two pathological Liars in my life. One whose lies were benign and never really hurt anyone other than tarnish his own reputation. The other on the other hand, was a true harlot with a Vengeance to destroy and make miserable everyone she came in contact with.
I think lying is just so core of what it is to be human, that it’s impossible for there to be any form of human law enforcement that doesn’t lie
@@Cinicallyinsane it is Within the human psyche to lie. However, with these guys having qualified immunity and the blessing of the courts to lie puts them on a whole new level. Add to this, at least for some... There is the psychiatric attributes of pathological lying to contend with. The three together can be a can be murderous to a society.
It's almost as if they're human and have human faults. Weird how that is.
Whether accidental or not this is an armed kidnapping as far as I am concerned. This cop performed poorly and then lied straight to the man's face. He is despicable and a pos. If I did the same thing I would be in prison.
Kidnapping requires culpability. Two false arrests wouldn't make it right.
And this the reason why Americans innocent citizens are in prison because dunce cops like him has no education
@@jasonsherman5194 what do you mean?
@@trrlii913 very few laws are strict liability. They almost always need to be knowingly, recklessly, intentionally, or negligent acts.
Kidnapping requires the act to be intentional. If a prosecutor can't prove intent, the law doesn't fit, and they can't prosecute.
@@jasonsherman5194 If im a doctor and cut out your healthy left lung instead of your cancerous right lung, the hospital would get a massive fine, and my license along with everyone else in the surgery would be on the line. It not intentional but it meant I and surgical team skipped tons of safety steps to prevent that kind of mistakes. If youre interested its called sentinel events by the joint commission. Why is the bar set so low for cops?
Why do we have to prove we belong somewhere? Why don't they prove we don't belong?
If you want to trust a police officer, please do so at your peril
At one time they were your friend, nowadays ------ no way.
“Dispatch said it. Oh wait I made a mistake? No it was totally dispatch. It’s not my fault. Dur”
Dispatch and police make many mistakes
I live in Indiana, not far from this county. The officer seen an arrest and got tunnel vision even though body cam picks up the dispatcher. Then tries to cover it up so his qualified immunity takes place. We as a nation really need to stand up and abolish qualified immunity, Terry vrs Ohio, and civil asset forfeiture. We the people, not the thin blue line. We have the power, just need to stand united.
The tyrant was captivated when he *saw* that he would be making an arrest. He verified information that belonged to another by the same name. He should have *seen* the consequences if he did not verify every detail.
If a person can't own up when making an 'honest' mistake, makes you wonder what else they have not been honest about in the past.
Everything
Cop says “it’s more on us than it is you”. What a coward!!
13:41 “It’s more on us than it is you.”
Uh, yeah. It’s 100% on them. Guy didn’t get his own identity wrong.
In fact he told him straight way, I've never been there or something like that. That is what we call a CLUE.
What blows my mind is this cop also drives while on his cell phone. Unbelievable
LMBO
They are above the law.
Rules for thee...
@@AngelaMerici12not above the law, just rules for thee but not for me.
One reason why the majority of all cops who die in the line of duty die in traffic accidents.
How many times have we heard cops ask when trying to ID some one name and date of birth, name and date of birth their like parrots and then when it's right in front of them they don't confirm it. That on it's own a reprimand, lying and blaming it dispatch he needs to fired.
"That's on them, not me." Everyone I know in any role who made that excuse lost their job.
I feel like we’re missing the opportunity to nominate this citizen for the chillest dude of the year.
"Huh. I didn't even know I had an outstanding warrant. In fact, I don't remember committing a crime in my entire life. Odd. Well, this guy seems to know what he's doing, so let's just tag along."
Be water, friend. :)
No doubt
I agree. In my youth I would have argued, been defiant and basically acted like a total ass. But in my youth peace officers didn't have computers in their vehicles. I could have been dragged off to the Pima County Adult Detention Center, AKA the county jail, been booked in and waited for my information to come back as "that's not me!" However, in my youth I was a heroin addict and was a regular guest at the county facility that we were on a 1st name basis and exchanged Christmas cards.
In my wise, clean and sober old age I would have more than likely responded like this gentleman.
He gets my Siskel and Ebert 👍. Nice going Mr. Bowman!
I'd have been objecting to providing my ID. Loudly and firmly. He didn't need anyone's ID other than the person renting the storage shed in the beginning.
@@andyfletcher3561yeah I was wondering the same thing.
This is just another reason he shouldn't have given his ID in the first place.
It should be police protocol to verify that you have the right person BEFORE YOU ARREST THEM. They should also be trained on how to avoid "tunnel vision" and sticking to procedure. He screwed up, caught it at the station, and is blame shift. That said at least he was big enough to fix it. Remember Jennifer Heath Box? She spent 3 days in jail for the same policing mistake. Bethany Farber spent 13 days in a Los Angeles County jail for having the same name as someone listed on a warrant.
When you have a hard on to make an arrest. it's not the time to check facts.
This is why you should not ID if you're not breaking the law. The COP should have never ID'd them in the first place.
I would have ID'ed. It was late, there was a possibility of a crime being committed in this particular case. No need to poke the Dragon.
@@johnchallingsworth9921You’re a weirdo.
They should be poked, they should be expected to do their jobs properly and they should be expected to apologize and atone fore it when they fuck up.
I had more responsibility and there were more consequences for me for forgetting to get a till, overnight at Walmart, while I managed teenagers.
I didn't hold a gun and a badge and wasn't expected to be the face of my Government.
If WALMART can do it why can't Police?
@johnchallingsworth9921 there is always "a possibility of a crime." Time of day has nothing to do with anything.
@@johnchallingsworth9921 and you would have ended up arrested just like this guy who thought he was being a good citizen as well. The sign on the facility says OPEN. In the winter it gets dark a 4:00 PM where i live. Also they are innocent until proven guilty and it is not the peoples job to help the cop investigate. If it was me I would have said "This is my unit and my stuff so if you get evidence saying otherwise I'll be here loading up. come talk then"
I’m just glad that guy didn’t get no more charges like resisting arrest or something. I’m glad he was a cool dude.
That is what saved him he just went along, he came so close to having his life ruined.
It's amazing, when cops ask for IDs, people run to give it to them!
You don’t have to ID unless a cop has reasonable suspicion of a crime they can articulate. Problem is cops want ID before they do any investigation. Part of this mistaken ID/arrest situation is predicated on 4th Amendment violations.
If you were paying attention the officer was dispatched because the employee called them and made it sound like they were trespassing. So the cop was investigating a crime, which is why he was checking for ID’s. You could hear the cop tell the other one it sounded like they were called for nothing. But that was after he asked for ID and ran the names
An LEO needs RS that you may be involved in criminality. He has no obligation to articulate anything at all to you. He must be able to articulate TO THE COURT why he and other reasonable police officers, based upon his training and experience why your conduct or the situation is reasonably suspicious of POSSIBLE CRIMINALITY.
@Sunstar Contrary to YT falsehoods, LE is not required to articulate anything at all to the suspect. The requirement to id attaches at the time of detainment NOT after the investigation.
@@HUBABUBA-il8fndepends on the srate. Texas I’d is required after arrest, not detainment.
@@only1muppet that’s not trespassing works. Trespassing is being formerly asked to leave the property and refusing to leave or leaving and returning. They were never formally trespassed to being in with. Since it was over a storage unit they paid for it’s a civil dispute. Cop had ZERO jurisdiction let alone demanding ID from everyone. The ONLY reason cops demand ID is to run people for warrants. Which is exactly what he did. Incorrectly unfortunately.
Cops MUST be extremely careful of their job and we MUST hold them Accountable because the power we gave them can DESTROY people's lives.
The officer took no accountability for his actions.
which where?
What's even crazier is that he really didn't even have to ask him. He had the man's ID in his pocket the whole time, he just never bothered to check it. I mean... it's not like there could conceivably be *two* Brandon Bowman's on a planet with seven billion people.
It happens all the time as a retired cop. I used to watch it daily and when they arrest the wrong person they trump up charges to ruin that person's life instead of admitting that they did something wrong.... Welcome to the common police officer in the united states.
You did nothing to correct those actions? Some good apples 🍎
@@abdulwaheed116 And what? So he can get outright removed for attempting to stop them or worse? It's not as simple as you think. If it was, there wouldn't be corruption.
@tovahwulf lmao..if you didn't kill anyone buy help hide body ? I guess you are also guilty of some crime ? You argument is flawed
@@tovahwulf Thank you for confirming that there are no good apples.
@@adambaum5824 Now a days, no there isn't lol. This isn't a gotcha moment.
This guy is so f-ing polite and respectful to the tyrants who shackled him, took his property, kidnapped him took him away and then can’t even apologize to the guy, he has a Go Past Jail Card!!
Guess what would have happened if he had insisted on his rights and refused to ID himself... Then he'd REALLY be in trouble. He might not have even survived the encounter.
If I "accidentally" got into the wrong car and took it home (even if it looks a lot like my car), I would be arrested for theft. Why should cops get a free pass due to incompetence ?
Magical potion called qualified immunity.
@@djhibberd9964 qualified immunity shouldn't apply for people halfassing their duties.
@@ObservationofLimits But that is what it was created for.
@@ObservationofLimitseah but in their little bubble of the world they live in it is. It's never justified it's just what it is. So next time you want to do something just remember every religion is real and you can't believe in all of them cause you can only believe in one god. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Greek, Roman, and other multiple god worshippers are.😂😂😂😂
Wait do you hotwire your own car
Yes. There are several people with the same name as mine. Even with the same public safety employment. I was called by deputies and wanted to know why I was not in court. We lived in the same county. Lol! Later, when he died, the obituary confused people. Since i was gone on a multi day shift assignment, I was not showing up at church. Church shunned my wife and family. Life can be interesting.
Poor kid cooperated with everything they asked and they could not be bothered to even check a simple thing like birth date.
Oh shit we cuffed and stuffed the wrong guy. Darn.
people say the cop was civil but that was only because the guy didn't stand up for himself
That Cop is a Sneaky SOB, period. Not for the people.
I have seen this several times.
I cannot imagine the cop not double checking before they handcuff people.
I know they do.
This is why they need more than 6 months of training.
He didn't even single check. He didn't even know the guy's birthday
More training but more importantly, harsher punishment for stupid mistakes. I had way less than 6 months training in the military but my punishment was harsh for getting it wrong.
Cops can’t do numbers and letters to stupid
Training means nothing if he refuses to use it.
That could have gone wrong in a big way! This officer was lucky to have such a chill guy.
Another good example of why not to identify unless you have been arrested.
Was there a reasonable articulation that the subject committed a crime to legally ask for id's.
Not at all, but unfortunately the victim willingly waived his rights by surrendering his ID when he was not legally obligated to.
Not if I remember the original video correctly. The man was helping someone else move their property out of a storage facility. The manager of the location wanted the group to leave, which they were doing after recovering their property. The manager was not satisfied so he called the police. Unfortunately for this man and his companions they willingly provided information to the police because they had nothing to hide and this was the result. The arrested man stated many times that he was not from the area and has had no prior interactions with law enforcement, bringing into question the arresting officer's logic behind the "missing to appear" warrant for the man with the same name.
@@Thundagoosestop spamming this page. You have to have PROBABLE CAUSE regardless. The cop didn’t have it.
@@Thundagoose incorrect. Any stop and ID legislation is an egregious and obvious violation of the fourth amendment and therefore null and void.
@Karina Z they got a call about a potential burglary. Mind your own business too..
Happened to a friend. Cop came to her door and arrested her because she had a similar name as a person with a warrant. She was processed and everything. Bad move as she was an attorney. She got a settlement but I don’t know the details. It was very traumatic, needless to say. I think the cop also kept his job.
WHEN are these cops going to held ACCOUNTABLE???
12:51 Cop runs a red light while on talking on the phone while driving while simultaneously getting the guy's name wrong who he just unlawfully arrested. Unfuckingbelievable.
still not as bad as the cops who jumped a innocent guy blasted his ass.
only to realize after 20 bullets.... fuck its the wrong house.
o well.
xD the law enforcement hat trick
The cop at 6:01 also just throws plastic onto the ground. You bet your ass if they saw you or I do that they'd cite us for littering.
At least he used his turn signal 😂
@@BlGGESTBROTHER It's a rock. At least, he thinks so. All this guy apparently knows about the object in his pocket is that he doesn't need it.
This is why you do not identify yourself unless they can reasonably articulate a crime they suspect you of committing. EVER.
@Chelle LE is under no obligation or requirement to articulate anything to you.
@HUBABUBA3167 there's good arguments to say they are.
But in this instance he had enough RAS to demand ID.
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn Wrong. The Supreme Court has established a Reasonable Articulable Suspicion (RAS) rule that must be met prior to requesting your identification.
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn “where are your papers” - Germany circa 1936
@@justinmiller5660 He did? What was the RAS in this case?
I’ll bet if the judge was taken into custody, mistakenly, due to the laziness and incompetence of the cop, embarrassed and humiliated in front of their friends and put in handcuffs, kidnapped, I’ll bet it wouldn’t be so easily forgiven.