@@Ali-ds5iy about 46k at the time. We got it because it was a two week wait time instead of 1 year for a rav4. Plus to get the same luxury features on the rav 4 you are paying 10-13k more. If you have the spare cash and are willing to wait a while grab a rave 4. But value for money the Havel hands down wins in my opinion. I also have a base model rav4 FYI. And a brand news Tesla model3. That’s my new toy and my favourite!
@@MichalskiTube hey thanks for the reply. so would you reckon Havel6 4wd over RAV 4 in terms of space and luxury?. Tbh, i sat in RAV 4 and the inner space looked. a bit tight. Why Tesla 3 though, it doesnt have road clearance as such thought no?.
Love the new look but I was really hoping that they'll incorporate a few important physical buttons such as climate control. Not a fan of screen only control.
They wouldnt.. cos the fuel consumption.. even they equipped 9dct, the official fuel consumption is 8.1L/100km.. With torque converter it will be way over 10-11L/100km and in real life it will be around 13-14L/100km.. in sport mode, it will be 16-17L/100km.. If you were them you dont want to lose buyers from this.. The most biggest headache for all Chinese car manufacturers are.. they cant make a proper reliable economical transmission yet.. most of Chinese car companies still have to import Asin torque converter or ZF dct.. so..
@@JP-hh2qj Not really, VW manages to make efficient drivetrains with an Aisin 8 speed torque converter auto. A DCT is fine for a sports car, for a family SUV spending most of its time in low speed traffic, a DCT is a poor choice.
The problem for Haval is the fugly badge and the huge Haval spelt in the rear. If you are a budget brand keep the logos small and subtle. I'm also talking to you BYD.
I do love the new grill 😊 I own the current H6 HEV and love the front design. The new rear look on this new version I don’t like at all. The cockpit looks clean and clutter free like the teslas but I agree I like the physical climate control buttons.
I have a H6 2023 model and happy with it, solid brand that stand by their product in Oz. I like the new look, if they don't want buttons on the dash, maybe - squeeze some more short cuts on the steering wheel or - add some to the console in no-mans-land between the cup holder and dash where the wireless charger is located in the current model
As I’ve been inside that mega complex in Beijing dozens of times. Please say you have much more to show than just this. Never was on my radar and still isn’t as I have my own car(s) in China and associated drivers so I know what they have been working on for several years now. Even the cars they just made for their domestic market 20 years ago where better built than what was coming out of Australia. As a proud Australian born, with Australian born parents, it’s just amazing how China now no longer has a reliance on Expats to learn from. Some would say scary. Hopefully, you’ve chased more cars from this exhibition. 👍😎🇦🇺
Hi Iain, A question on another SUV please. Do you know if the new 2025 Hyundai Sante Fe hybrid has had a local suspension tune; especially since they run 20" rims?
Nothing new in comparison to the current gen3 except for turned engine and 9 speed DCT. I was hoping that they will make rear reclining seats, tilted front at least driver seat. IMO removing physical buttons for AC control etc is a big step back because using screen is very uncomfortable when you are driving. Let's see what hybrid options they will bring to Australia. I hope the AWD Hi-4 version will be available in AU. 5:36 - hybrid power? Really? I can hear how DCT operates.
Our 2021 H6 Ultra has done 40k trouble free driving so far. Its not perfect and requires some refinement with the DSG and some calibration of the cruise control, lane keep and other so called 'safety smarts' but overall a good car. Will be interested to see what the second gen is like, not this facelift.
@@henrytaverner1803 You can find multiple cases from multiple brands. It was mainly due to the ECU or similiar functioning chips issue so it may happens to this one too as this car should be using digital chips too.
my over 10 yrs old Mazda CX5 is doing 8.6litres per 100kms and this Haval Hybrid is doing 8.1litres per 100kms? Technology hasnt been kind to Haval at all. Its still gallop plenty of petrol.
i was about to buy the current model and then i heard about this motor show and held off, very impressed with the facelift. this is a great car and better than most in the same segment, i work in the auto industry and thought it was one of the best to drive. everything else was underpowered overpriced junk. ive tested them all.
It is so nice seeing the progress the Chines auto companies are making despite all the semiconductor technologies war the West is waging against China. It must be really painful for the US and EU manufacturers.
First impressions, cream interior 😱!! That would last 5 minutes with my kids, I’ve had to go with black for practicality. That touchscreen looks huge! probably too big and distracting, and I’d like more physical buttons. Logo still looks bang average and needs updating
Very unsafe having climate controls only on the infotainment system. Amazing how laws prohibit touching a phone but these cars pass safety standards having everything on the infotainment system. Makes no sense.
No wonder BYD is slaying in the Chinese market way ahead of everyone else including GWM. Simply disappointed in this new H6. What BYD is going to launch down under is much more interesting to me like the Sealion 6 PHEV (Seal U in EU market or the Song plus DM-i champion edition in Chinese market)
Nope. Why are all the car manufacturers burying basic controls in screen menus? And the punchline has to be they have intrusive driver’s “assistance “ screaming at you while you’re digging through the screen, trying to turn the seat heater on. No. Just no, Haval. This is a miss. If I wanted a Tesla, I’d buy a bloody Tesla.
@@yslee1401 We only heared accusations but never any proof while they are not on Europe, and much in the rest of the world. Huawei is the best at what they do so the US and their vassal states banned them. That's the only reason.
some people can't afford flashy cars and its the only affordable option. you gotta do what you can afford and if its this than who cares? most cars parts are chinese lol.
I bought the H6 Hybrid a year and a half ago and could not be happier with the product. Extreme value for money.
how would you rate it with RAV4?....and what was the price in Aud you paid?
@@Ali-ds5iy about 46k at the time. We got it because it was a two week wait time instead of 1 year for a rav4. Plus to get the same luxury features on the rav 4 you are paying 10-13k more. If you have the spare cash and are willing to wait a while grab a rave 4. But value for money the Havel hands down wins in my opinion. I also have a base model rav4 FYI. And a brand news Tesla model3. That’s my new toy and my favourite!
@@MichalskiTube hey thanks for the reply. so would you reckon Havel6 4wd over RAV 4 in terms of space and luxury?.
Tbh, i sat in RAV 4 and the inner space looked. a bit tight. Why Tesla 3 though, it doesnt have road clearance as such thought no?.
I like the front but would have preferred the full length led light across the rear
thanks
Wow the lights on the rear of this car looks very nice
Love the new look but I was really hoping that they'll incorporate a few important physical buttons such as climate control. Not a fan of screen only control.
Nobody likes the touch screen control but its much cheaper to produce if u can believe it or not..
Nice front end. I think the 2 row seats can indeed recline.
nice mate can you preview the GT version if you saw it too?
When is the Hybrid PHEV coming to Australia Please
I don’t think I’d ever say this, but the screen looks too big.
A screen can never be too big. Think mercedes Benz where it goes from door to door
Smaller than most
I hope they replace the DCT with a torque converter auto
better than CVT anyway
@@neil9143 Nah
They wouldnt.. cos the fuel consumption.. even they equipped 9dct, the official fuel consumption is 8.1L/100km.. With torque converter it will be way over 10-11L/100km and in real life it will be around 13-14L/100km.. in sport mode, it will be 16-17L/100km.. If you were them you dont want to lose buyers from this.. The most biggest headache for all Chinese car manufacturers are.. they cant make a proper reliable economical transmission yet.. most of Chinese car companies still have to import Asin torque converter or ZF dct.. so..
@@JP-hh2qj Not really, VW manages to make efficient drivetrains with an Aisin 8 speed torque converter auto. A DCT is fine for a sports car, for a family SUV spending most of its time in low speed traffic, a DCT is a poor choice.
The problem for Haval is the fugly badge and the huge Haval spelt in the rear. If you are a budget brand keep the logos small and subtle. I'm also talking to you BYD.
Yeah I am imagining removing those shts as I watch this video 😂
So you mean like Porsche, Volvo,lexus , Tesla , Volvo , Range Rover etc
I've plasti dipped all the badges on my black H6. Hardly visible now..
Who made this rule and why do they have to follow it? Don't see any reason why they actually have to do this.
Ive took em all off except h6..
And the presentation of the Hybrid version ??
I do love the new grill 😊 I own the current H6 HEV and love the front design. The new rear look on this new version I don’t like at all. The cockpit looks clean and clutter free like the teslas but I agree I like the physical climate control buttons.
I love the look of it. I'd be really interested in a PHEV if they decide to bring it to Australia. The MG and Outlander need more competition.
I will miss the red long strip light at the rear! 😢
I have a H6 2023 model and happy with it, solid brand that stand by their product in Oz.
I like the new look, if they don't want buttons on the dash, maybe
- squeeze some more short cuts on the steering wheel or
- add some to the console in no-mans-land between the cup holder and dash where the wireless charger is located in the current model
What are the prospects of going AWD
As I’ve been inside that mega complex in Beijing dozens of times. Please say you have much more to show than just this. Never was on my radar and still isn’t as I have my own car(s) in China and associated drivers so I know what they have been working on for several years now. Even the cars they just made for their domestic market 20 years ago where better built than what was coming out of Australia. As a proud Australian born, with Australian born parents, it’s just amazing how China now no longer has a reliance on Expats to learn from. Some would say scary. Hopefully, you’ve chased more cars from this exhibition. 👍😎🇦🇺
Do you have any updates on the PHEV variant and when that is expected to be launched?
GT still has the best front end....new bigger grille doesn't make it look any better
Excellent design, and excellent review
Any other colours ? I’ve only seen white silver and a champagne colour .
Hi Iain,
A question on another SUV please. Do you know if the new 2025 Hyundai Sante Fe hybrid has had a local suspension tune; especially since they run 20" rims?
Is the ground clearance now 200mm or above?
What is so brilliant about a touch screen desktop monitor in the middle of the dash. If you wanna play with something stay at home play with yourself.
it looks great
Nothing new in comparison to the current gen3 except for turned engine and 9 speed DCT. I was hoping that they will make rear reclining seats, tilted front at least driver seat. IMO removing physical buttons for AC control etc is a big step back because using screen is very uncomfortable when you are driving.
Let's see what hybrid options they will bring to Australia. I hope the AWD Hi-4 version will be available in AU.
5:36 - hybrid power? Really? I can hear how DCT operates.
I'd buy it as a demo since these catrs depreciate like no body's business here in South Africa
We're anxiously waiting for a 2.0 HEV AWD haval variants in pakistan
Our 2021 H6 Ultra has done 40k trouble free driving so far. Its not perfect and requires some refinement with the DSG and some calibration of the cruise control, lane keep and other so called 'safety smarts' but overall a good car. Will be interested to see what the second gen is like, not this facelift.
When the screen goes blank the car doesn’t work , to much reliance of the screen
Never will happen.
The grill is way too big , I hope the hev gets a different look like the current one
@@henrytaverner1803 You can find multiple cases from multiple brands. It was mainly due to the ECU or similiar functioning chips issue so it may happens to this one too as this car should be using digital chips too.
I'm just waiting for it to come in NZ. 😊
they need to change that HAVal LOGO to a more premium logo.
thanks
Removing physical buttons is a deal breaker for me.
my over 10 yrs old Mazda CX5 is doing 8.6litres per 100kms and this Haval Hybrid is doing 8.1litres per 100kms? Technology hasnt been kind to Haval at all. Its still gallop plenty of petrol.
I think this one he tries is not hybrid.
2.5L NA?
i was about to buy the current model and then i heard about this motor show and held off, very impressed with the facelift. this is a great car and better than most in the same segment, i work in the auto industry and thought it was one of the best to drive. everything else was underpowered overpriced junk. ive tested them all.
It is so nice seeing the progress the Chines auto companies are making despite all the semiconductor technologies war the West is waging against China. It must be really painful for the US and EU manufacturers.
Can't wait for gt
First impressions, cream interior 😱!! That would last 5 minutes with my kids, I’ve had to go with black for practicality. That touchscreen looks huge! probably too big and distracting, and I’d like more physical buttons. Logo still looks bang average and needs updating
Would have loved to see more of the screen rather just a shot from the side honestly.
Much beautiful and much futuristic, when can we get it in Pakistan 🇵🇰_???
I have a 2022 model that looked better than this face lifted 2025 model. Good to see the twist gear shift replaced.
Blady hell cream roof liner yet again. They need to take what’s in the GT black all the way.
Outclass❤❤❤ somuch beautiful
making the Ac bottoms on the screen is so bad
The old back end configuration was better looking
I will choose 2.4T disiel, and I think it's looking better than tank 500! I hope it comes to Australia, I will pay for it
The car looks luxurious and sophisticated. It's really a game changer although the front grill looks like a Palisade
Very unsafe having climate controls only on the infotainment system. Amazing how laws prohibit touching a phone but these cars pass safety standards having everything on the infotainment system. Makes no sense.
Haval should address that lower rear bumper it doesn’t resemble with h6 and making it little ugly
No wonder BYD is slaying in the Chinese market way ahead of everyone else including GWM. Simply disappointed in this new H6. What BYD is going to launch down under is much more interesting to me like the Sealion 6 PHEV (Seal U in EU market or the Song plus DM-i champion edition in Chinese market)
the back is too high
Nope. Why are all the car manufacturers burying basic controls in screen menus? And the punchline has to be they have intrusive driver’s “assistance “ screaming at you while you’re digging through the screen, trying to turn the seat heater on. No. Just no, Haval. This is a miss. If I wanted a Tesla, I’d buy a bloody Tesla.
It's pronounced Have-vil, like Gravel
bit unfortunate that Australian car markete is relatively small otherwise consumer would be on the pro side to enjoy lower cost and better technology.
😋👏🏼
I see copy paste from other brands all over the place
I wish they would employ someone who can design a better grill.
current one is already good. facelift is meh
Current model is better
Will never buy cars with the climate controls integrated into the screen! #bringbackthebuttons
Upgraded unauthorised listening capabilities on car occupants perhaps
Keep on being bitter and coping cause it doesn't matter mate.
@@MJ-revered Huawei and ZTE are banned for a good reason
@@yslee1401 We only heared accusations but never any proof while they are not on Europe, and much in the rest of the world. Huawei is the best at what they do so the US and their vassal states banned them. That's the only reason.
Design language is Bad
How can one be proud of themselves driving around in a Chinese car ? I could not , sorry. Life is too short to be driving around in a Chinese car .
some people can't afford flashy cars and its the only affordable option. you gotta do what you can afford and if its this than who cares? most cars parts are chinese lol.
Audi Q5 + Hyundai Palisade. They just can't stop copying other cars' designs, can they?