Fat man and little boy (1989)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The purpose of this video is to educate about the first nuclear bomb. I edited the original movie down to the footage closely related to nuclear physics. The discussion, politics, and romance is mostly removed.
"So if the screwdriver slips we are dead? "
"Yes"
"Lmao let's do it"
Stolen comment but gold anyway
You are a horrible world leader.
@@Austin01Powers so Horrible leader
Ikr
Kin Jong Un the the forth reich want to help you supling you with nuclear bombs and misiles in trade we want you as a ally
My uncle was a Marine during the 1950s. They made his unit walk towards ground zero after they set a nuke off (in Nevada). He died of cancer a couple years ago. He had cancer all over his body. I bet if he had known the true dangers, he would have been more hesitant.
Damn...sorry to hear that.
Yes, true...i read about this in The Plutonium Files......what a wonderful govt we ha e........bastards....killing their own soldiers.......
@Divergent Integral it was never directly linked to that day. I'm not positive it's why he got cancer. He had it everywhere though and he had issues several years after he got out of the Corps but they subsided. He never smoked, drank, or did drugs. It may very well not be related, but I can't imagine walking through ground zero of a nuclear explosion is good for you.
One of the "atomic soldiers".
@@ghost84429 desert rock exercises
I didn't realize even back then Perry Cox was playing a doctor...
Do you mean John C. McGinley? "Perry Cox" is a fictional character.
Government spend the equivalent of 30 billion dollars on this project: man controls nuclear reaction with a shakey hand a screwdriver in a wood shack. Smh
Before they knew the full effects
Kaleb Locke I mean, they knew the effects, the dude was just being stupid. Other scientists were literally telling it what he was doing was going to kill him, and he still did it.
In reality, lous slotting did this with ONLY his hand on the screwdriver
Yeah pretty insane, just from the standpoint of the danger involved and how ridiculous the risk was. But from a project/funding/government/investment standpoint, most projects do end up on the ground because of bubblegum-rigged proof of concept stuff like that in any field you’re in.
But yeah, a screwdriver? Maybe the culture of the 40’s just made stupid decisions like that commonplace even among people as methodical as scientists
Well its diffrent times
Seems a lot of people don't understand there are multiple types of radiation given off, this wasn't fallout, which is matter contaminated with tiny fragments of the bombs radioactive core which is active till its radioactivity is depleted to a safe level. This was prompt radiation that is the initial burst of gamma rays and neutrons that does the worst damage, he basically took a shotgun blast to his face and torso of billions of tiny particles that tore apart every cell in his body and each one was mortally wounded it just took time for them to fail and die. Then for the others that took lower doses essentially there was less particles so the body could regenerate from the damage but some cells regenerated incorrectly and formed cancer cells.
And that characteristic blue flash is Cherenkov radiation. If you ever see it in the open air, say your goodbyes and get your will sorted out.
@@flynnt77 It is just ionisation, not Cherenkov radiation.
@@Deadwit I thought they were interchangeable terms for the same phenomenon. 🤔 Guess it's back to the library. At any rate, I'll pass on being exposed to it, thanks. 👍
@@flynnt77you get Cherenkov radiation when radiation is in water, something to do with light travelling slightly slower through a medium other than vacuum. It’s what you would see at a nuclear power plant around the rods in the heating tank.
An older article years ago, (unconfirmed), stated that the following procedure had been suggested to the lab, prior to the accident--to mechanically secure the top hemisphere making it rigid and stationary--then to slowly raise the lower hemisphere(by special cradle) to obtain the emission and reflective neutron density data. In that manner, any slippage would result in a separation of material due to gravity (falling apart) instead of the lethal closure and resulting excursion event. It further stated Mr. Slotin,while under medical care, gave permission for photography of his body to be used in further studies of excessive radiation exposure and the resulting biological damage.
It certainly could have been done safer, but Slotin had a sort of cavalier attitude towards the risks and in fact enjoyed the experience of free wheeling it. A similar attitude has been the downfall of many young men prancing along the edge of the Grand Canyon for audiences.
@@timstich6801 Very true. Well Said.
this movie isnt even right to begin with he held a beryllium neutron reflector up with a screw driver and had a thumbhole on it
@@manletopia4801 it's a fictional retelling.
@@manletopia4801 he did hold it with a screwdriver tho
This movie still scares the living day lights out of me today.
Then imagine being there.
Me to
Why do historical recounts have to have romance in it?
American TV/Films, always the same e.g. U-571
cheechforprez i hate that film, it was British that captured the enigma machine, our prime minister called it an affront to British sailors. British feel the US takes an unfair amount of credit for the way they recall events from that era, this film is a perfect example of it :/
oblivexx so you can take your girlfriend to see it without her bitching about how boring all the "smart stuff" is
blazednlovinit You have to realize that half the people that watch these movies don't even know where England is! We did grab a sub with an intact enigma machine, but the skipper of the ship that captured it decided to tow it to port. When they realized that it would compromise all the efforts at Bletchley, they sank it.
Some of us know that without Brits we would not have had decent RADAR and a whole bunch of other stuff that you gave us the plans for. God only knows what would have happened if the Brits had not stood up to Hitler. I love Winston! What a character. Even at the age of 10, I was in awe of him and remember being quite sad when he died.
You forgot at least one huge movie that made it seem like we were solely responsible for the outcome as well. "The Great Escape." Great movie. International cast. True story. Not portrayed as it really happened though. Lol.
blazednloinit The British didn't "capture" it, it was offered 2 them by a Pole.
They X-rayed a guy who had just had lethal dose of radiation? Also, I thought the Demon core accident happened after they dropped the bombs on Japan.
I suppose by that point they knew 1000 rads was lethal no matter what, so what was the harm in giving him a tiny bit more? And there were two incidents with the Demon Core, this one and another in 1946.
There were two incidents resulting in deaths, the first was Harry Daghlian in 1945.
He was told he would end up dead within the year with his cavalier attitude. Well
あの猫もだ。
It did happen after. The demon core was supposed to be in a third bomb
Lt. Barclay sure has a lot more composure in this movie......even his stammering is gone! lol.
perfect reference
Sal couldn’t keep the screwdriver steady, causing a fatal criticality incident and making him tonight’s big loser.
20:58 Neither the sound nor shock-wave could have arrived that soon after the light from where they were observing. If it did then Oppenheimer would have been too close to the test and obliterated.
I cannot believe that critical know-it-all advice is being asserted for a “MOVIE “ if any of you experts had been available at the time of this accident, you would’ve been too young (as in non-existent) for any degree of assistance in this instance. This is beyond Monday morning armchair quarterbacking, dweebs. Sorry
And x-wings wouldn't have engine noises in space.
Blast wave starts out roughly the speed of sound, is my understanding
This is not the sound of blast, bu
t owerheated wind
20:59
Alien: Shit! The kids found the matches.
I call well done. Good synopsis here. Thanks, man.
He used his years to save his colleagues years
The level of security for all this thing was a joke...
Still had better security than the capitol lol
@@sadpaddletime1206 Hilarious!!
Better security than Epstein guards
Clinton - Gore Administration allowed Chinese Scientists into Los Alamos Labs,…..they managed to steal our Neutron Bomb secrets on a thumb drive and walk out…..what Security?!
Not when they were paranoid about Soviet spies
They should have insisted that the violinist stopped playing while the experiment was carried out.
Funny
Funny
A screw driver to control an A bomb???accident waiting to happen
BLOODY fascinating history...why don't t they teach this in school....
Cuz School sucks
I do not see anything "BLOODY" about this. Guess you were not invited too the boston tea party 🎉
More important to shape the what kids think about issues that are utilized by parties for defaming their poltical enemies and creating libel.
Public school is a tax funded exercise in the grooming of students for the persecution of specific demographics in the name of empowering demographics
They taught in the UK. Separately in physics and history. But they taught it
They did when I went to school.
Fermi warned him it was an accident waiting to happen, he should have listened.
It was Feynman.
@@cflmaiorFeynman called it "Tickling the Dragon's Tail." Fermi warned him about testing it that recklessly.
Historically the two 'demon core' accidents happened after the Trinity test and the attacks on Japan, but of course this is meant to be a historical drama movie not a documentary.
Didn't know Dr. Cox was working on first atomic bomb. That would explain why is was so jaded.
His name was Harry Daghlian. Demon core, Manhattan project.
The film conflates the deaths of Harry Daghlian in 1945 and Slotin in 1946 into one scene.
Yeah this is closer to what happened to slotin with the screwdriver and calculating the dose everyone was exposed to. Daughlian was alone at night with tungsten bars not a hollow beryllium sphere. He dropped a tungsten bar and had to swat it away with his hand. Slotin was exposed to a much higher dose and died quicker
You are absolutely correct sir
"If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once, into the sky, that would be like the splendour of the mighty one, i am become death, the shatterer of worlds"
Oppenheimer right?
@@finndubbeln7398 Hindu scripture. Oppenheimer later quoted the line.
@@finndubbeln7398 no , its Bhagavad Gita
Rodrigo B. ...and proof of Oppenheimers genius. Besides being one of the worlds leading physicists he also could read and understand philosophical sanskrit.
Yeah except what he really said, as testified by several of the men standing with him, was “Well, I guess it works.”
The “quoting the Bhagavad Gita” thing was made up by Oppenheimer himself to sound appropriately dramatic. “A testament to his genius,” my ass. More like a testament to his marketing skills.
The demon core test is the stupidest way they could have possibly done it. By hand so things could slip and go wrong. Why not mount them to something and mechanically move them close.
Hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it?
Everybody gangsta till screwdriver slips
I think i had never seen this episode of Scrubs before!
In real life Slotin messed up bigtime but that clip of the fatal incident glosses over his stupidity.
And Harry Daghlian… Cusack’s character was based off Harry Daghlian and Louis Slotin.
Does no one understand the benefits of euthanasia...jesus stop trying to save people who can't be saved, put them out of their misery.
Thank you...I'm a hospice nurse...we don't do and cannot legally do euthanasia, but we do palliative care, comfort.
That emotional military nurse is totally wrong, I married one, she would be totally professional and cry only when she went home.
Imagine what Japanese have felt those who were victims of this bomb
They should have put him out of his misery but they wanted to see how far they could go. What it would do to him.
Doctors do not execute ill people.
Actually it sounded like loud ‘crack’. You can find actual audio of a nuclear explosion
I hear it's as much as a chest x-ray. He's delusional.
Wha?
Chernobly reference
That’s not bad but it’s not great
@PreaxMT, 🙄……..Chernobyl was the reactor that melted down, Chernobly was the energy drink spilled into the hot tub controls sending John Cusack and others back in time in Hot Tub Time Machine.
10:30 "Well, I got other business... but I got a plane.. I'll be there."
“Me he convertido en la muerte, en el destructor de mundos” Bhagavad Gita
Don’t challenge authority Victor Krum. Your grandfather isn’t the forgiving type. He will declare you insane and ship you off to a psych ward if he could. Malicious compliance is the best you can do for now
There are explosive charges arrayed around the sphere. I think they inserted each charge by hand and taped it into place before securing it with screws or whatever.
The name of the movie is "The Beginning of the End"
Not even Dr Cox could save that dude.
Not even todays medicine can. His DNA was basically shredded into confetti.
The accident acually happened a year later in 46, and he's kicker, it happened again and killed another physicist! With the SAME Core.
Today this work is done in a protected environment with lead lined gloves and suits or else simulated by computers.
No, today this is not done at all and especially not with people.
Lajos Winkler ...and was already foolish at that time. More like kicking the dragons balls that tickling his tail.
www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/demon-core-the-strange-death-of-louis-slotin?intcid=mod-latest
Argonne.....Fermilab...in Illinois...
I've read The Plutnoium Files, 49:the world's deadliest element, Midnight in Chernobyl, now reading The Apocalypse Factory...........
The demon core.
I rate this 3.6 roentgen.
That man's in shock, take him to the infirmary.
@@turbotravis2323 i use micro severts
@@turbotravis2323 To be serious, Louis Slotin, that guy stand closest to the core, was exposed to a total of 21sievert. Thats about 5 times the dose that is estimated to be 100% fatal. Who would be not in shock at this moment?
Concorde4711 Honestly, shock and awe would be a completely normal response to experiencing a criticality accident.
I thought that one dude was gonna get super powers.
He got the power to predict his own death
His captain rank is not right. Not supposed to be sideways.
They were stupid to use a screwdriver in the first place.
Whats the story on the song they couldn't shut off right before the bomb blew? Is that real?
It is like after Kenishiro punches u and tells that u r already dead!
For no money in this world would I enter this lab
You get X-rays, though.
*In front of the gates of heaven*
God: Alright, what did you die from?
This man: Screwdriver
*1.21 gigawatts!!*
Good job!!!! Reminds me of reading Cliff Notes in high school in the early 70's
So this is how DR.COX from the show SCRUBS started his career LOL
Thats why i keep my plutonuim and uranuim because maybe my cousin see it may she hit the two together and create a explosion
"got a light?" "ya, one sec"
i AM BECOME DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS
*have* not am
Brian G Beans and onions for dinner😯
Craig Porter that's how it is quoted directly from the book
Josh Kimbrough It's not. Oppenheimers quote is his free interpretation of different verses from the sanskrit text. However "I am become" is correct, since he wanted to express the self personification.
Why didn't he knock it in the floor with the screw driver
I don’t know how good the movie Oppenheimer is, but they should’ve included this part of the bomb in the movie the first US casualties of radiation
Whoever pushed the button to let Fat and Little fall probably has the highest
K/D ratio.
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Crazy they keep calling it a device. Can't say bomb!
They called it the “gadget” for security reasons.
Leona Woods was from LaGrange. Il....right next door..........Lyons, IL.....she worked on the Manhattan project
“Come here to see our little toy eh?”
Oooof I do not like the sound of that
Laura dern is a fantastic actress..
"Cigarette break"
Yes, lets take a break from the thing that could kill us instantly so we can enjoy a thing thatll kill us slowly.
Ah humanity
He knew he was dead right after the accident so a smoke would be a moot problem after that.
The screwdriver scene where the guy receives a fatal dose of radiation actually happened in 1946.
The "leader" of the Manhattan project wanted the scientists drafted to work on the project. Thankfully that never happened or we'd still be working on the Bomb.
"Щелкунчик". Как дети прямо.
На горизонте бухтит первый в мире атомный взрыв!
Ситуация требовала более серьёзную музыку.
"Полет Валькирий" или "Кармен".
I heard that it was actually Tchaikovsky's "Serenade For Strings"
6:23 He uses the wrong side of the dial caliper to measure the I.D. gap between the core halves.
I thought I was the only one to spot that ...
No wonder Dr.Cox was so bitter and jaded.
@ 7:00 how much radiation was that dude in the front of the ball getting hit with. I bet he died that night.
9 days later. 1000 rad
Honey , let's go see Oppenheimer!
"We have Oppenheimer at home dear.."
And you don't even have to spend 3 hours at a shitty theater
Video and Audio quality sux.
So basically yoi have cut the crap, good job.
Playing with the demon core like it's a toy @ 6:22
Louis slotin was just like
"Ey yo checkout my new plutonium core they're the brand new"
That explosion sequence totally ruined it for me. I’m no scientist but I’m pretty sure the shockwave that could blow your mouth open moves a wee bit slower than the light from the explosion. If he was close enough to experience both at the same time he would be ash. Am I wrong?
2billion dollars and they couldn't build an experiment apparatus.😂
When cigarettes are good for you (relatively speaking)
Respect human wisdom.
But don't forget.
If to kill, it will come back to you.
Hello！！My names Demon corekun
Where can I get it on Blu-ray 4K HDR? That Movie was filmed in México.
A definite procedure
Okay guys lets see whose life is shortened the greatest by all this radiation.
Smart scientist: "We are going to stack up a few lead bricks around the dangerous radiation emitting experiment. For protection, you know! And then i´m gonna peek my fat head above the shield and allow my most important body part to be directly exposed, because i´m just that smart, and radiation will make me smarter! Let´s roll!"
not lead, tungsten
Maybe he hoped to get superpowers ?
Not just that, he was holding the two halfs of the demon core with a screw driver instead of proper equipment, which he was even warned that that would kill him
So many inaccuracies
How do you avoid copyright violation?
This is the movie you should all watch not Oppenheimer…and NOT Barbie lol
AGREE!
If he didn't use his hands and something else to separate the spheres would he have lived or he was dead no mater what that close?
Those blocks around the sphere would provide a lot of protection, hence why guys 6ft away survived, it was the line of sight when he leaned over to seperate it and basically his torso and head took the full brunt of it, radiation is line of sight from the source, with the shielding around most of the others took smaller doses filtered by it.
The problem is that for this movie, two different criticality accidents involving two different scientists and two dfferent experimental setups were merged into just one. The real life scientists Harry S. Daghlian and Louis Slotin who both recived a deadly dose of radiation while working with the same plutonium core (but in two completely different criticality accidents) got combined to the fictional character of Michael Merriman. They also merged the two different experiemental setups into one and created a wole new cause for the accident. The first accident happened to Daghlian with the sphere being surrounded with bricks of tungsten carbide acting as neutron reflectors, just as shown in the movie. While preparing the experiment Daghlian accidentally dropped one of the bricks directly onto the sphere, almost enclosing it , which increased the overall neutron reflection cross-section enough for the setup to go prompt critical. He recieved his deadly dose when he disassembled the brick walls surrounding the core to end the criticality after being unsuccesful in trying to knock the dropped brick from the core using a tool from a distance. The bricks were quite heavy.
Almost one year later, his colleague and friend Slotin conducted a different experiement with a beryllium half sphere around the plutonium one. This experiment was very much like shown in the movie, (using a screwdiver to manipulate the half-sphere and all that) But there were no tungsten carbide bricks surrounding the setup. There were also a total of seven people in the room when Slotins hand slipped and he let the half-sphere drop completely over the plutonium. This means there was absolutely nothing protecting him or the other people in the room when the radiation burst happened. The burst was evenly distributed into all directions. Consequently Slotin did the only thing he could do and took the half-sphere off with his hands to prevent greater harm to anyone in just as outside the room. The other scientists in the room also recieved significant but lesser doses as they were farer away from the table. All were hospitalized but Slotin was the only one who showed severe signs of radiation sickness like heavy vomiting just minutes after the accident. There were safety shims between the ball of plutonium and the beryllium half-sphere that were supposed to prevent just that from happening. But Slotin removed them prior to the experiment in order to better manipulate the sphere by hand and thus gain better radiation measurements.
@@Celeon999A Thank you.
Oppenhiemer July 23 2023
Goddamn....give Michael morphine, ativan, phenobarbital .....palliative sedation aNd pain control. Anything less is cruel and immoral...
"Now i have become death......" ........J.Robert Oppenheimer ....
and Lord SHIVA........
Where can I find this full movie??
did this accident really happen?
Yes, it happened. Google Louis Slotin or Demon Core.
Arvelle Whitaker yes, more than once.
Yes. However it happened a year later after the war.
Nick W Demon core, because it was the second fatal accident to happen with that core. This first happened a year before.
Yes
What was the purpose of that dangerous experiment? To see whether the core could emit neutrons?
I'm not a physicist but I agree with you. They needed data about Plutonium implosion.
No, to calculate how many neutrons were emitted.
dieselscience Your explanation is more rigorous and makes more sense, thanks. The medical effects of a lethal dose of ionizing radiation as depicted by poor John Cusak are highly accurate.
No, not 'ionizing' - in this case it was pure neutron flux that caused the damage....*LOTS* of neutrons. They knew for certain the uranium bomb would work - no need to test very much. The plutonium bomb started as "Thin Man' but didn't work so they began the "Fat Man" project, a sphere instead of a bullet.
It didn't really happen the exact way the movie shows it but very close. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_K._Daghlian,_Jr.
dieselscience I admire your innate intelligence. Nevertheless, the physics of nuclear reactions and the effects of radiation on biological systems is well understood. You could have looked them up on Wikipedia (you should have done your homework before challenging my colossal intellect). Fission of Plutonium or Uranium (both isotopes of Uranium can be fissioned but require different physical conditions) releases about 200MeV per atom. Fission of one atom releases 2.5 neutrons (statistical quantum event) with a mean energy of about 2.5MeV per neutron. The fission event releases 7MeV per atom in the form of gamma rays. The rest of the energy (85%) is emitted in the form of kinetic energy of the fission fragments. In biological systems both gamma ray irradiation and neutron irradiation are very damaging:
1) neutrons penetrate deep into the body and cause damage through a process called indirect ionization.
2) gamma rays are even more penetrating and damage living systems through direct ionization.
The large scale ionization of macromolecules (proteins, phospholipids, nucleic acids) in a living system is catastrophic because it both destroys the biological functionality of macromolecules and it produces overwhelming amounts of toxic reactants know as free radicals which perpetuate the damage. The cellular effects in mammals are lysis and apoptosis of affected cells. The clinical symptoms are determined by which cell lines are most vulnerable. The lining of the GI tract (nausea, intractable vomiting and diarrhea). The hematopoetic cells (bleeding and failure of the immune system. Glial cells (high intracranial pressure which impedes the healthy flow dynamics of cerebral circulation leading to death of neurons). Mesenchymal cells which leads to pericardial effusion, pleural effusion and ascites. Liver and kidney failure follow - all of which produce a protracted and agonizing death which was brilliantly portrayed by a young John Cusak here.
I wish I could go back in time and tell those doctors to just put the poor scientist out of his misery. It's disgusting to me how little precaution was taken with radiation and I know in some of the early days they didn't have as strong of an understanding of how damaging it could be. Nonetheless my grandfather worked for Western electric and Bell Labs starting in the late '50s and essentially spent most of his career with Bell which later became AT&t. He was working out at the Nevada test site in the early days of his career and ended up dying of bone marrow cancer in his early sixties. I have no doubt that his work on the Titan missile as well as phones that could withstand a nuclear blast led to his cancer. My father told me that my grandfather when he was in Nevada was living in a trailer that was surrounded by lead bricks
Humans are worth nothing for the government and their bosses
Remember too, that back then the Quacks all hailed radiation as a all cure elixar!!! So Maybe they thought it would be a health benefit even though today we know its DESTRUCTION!!!
I mean, if you could go back in time that far, go back a little more and tell him to stop being that reckless
Slotin did a oopsie
What song plays over the speakers as the countdown for the test of "the device" begins
+Rocio4424 nutcracker suite-7 I believe.
The Nutcrackers Suit, Opus 71a, section II "Danses caractéristiques", part f, "Reed Flutes".
Dance of the Sugarplum Fairies
What's the name of the movie please
Fatman and Little Boy from 1989
The cigarette forgot to break from the shockwave, its cool that Rush used that clip
What is that thing made of that it would even glow and explode? I'm so confused.