There is one fatal flaw in the Ally X that makes me choose a steam deck any day over it, THERES NO TRACK PAD. So handling windows itself or any game that has a lot of pointing and clicking is immediately 10x more miserable than it is on the steam deck.
@@MISTER-BESTER ASUS has a bad reputation of scamming its customers. GamerNexus did a video exposing ASUS, voiding warranties on purpose in order to force the client to purchase a new portable gaming pc or hardware.
@@TRX25EX how is that stupid? You can’t say that there is “no way” and then offer a way and you come back with “nuh uhhh that doesn’t count”. It’s a legitimate way to be able to run any games that won’t run on Linux.
I genuinely prefer the steam deck mostly because windows can be an absolute hassle with tons of issues because of a bad update and valve’s steamOS genuinely works flawlessly and has so much customisation (via a plugin known as decky loader) so yeah as the pinned comment says, if you’re on a tight budget get a steam deck. If you’re willing to deal with windows issues and wanna play games that have a stricter anti-cheat then get the ASUS ROG ally (although as mentioned in the vid it costs almost twice as much)
@@wellsilver3972Not that simple, but arch linux is almost the same thing with the same support and works on basically anything plus the steam-play ui can be started easily
The Steam Deck has shown me that a trackpad is a necessity for handheld pc gaming and wii emulation. So in my opinion, no way in hell I would buy an ROG Ally. Why spend 800 bucks on a console that you are required to bring an external mouse with you to use when there are competitors that are 100-400 dollars cheaper with a built-in trackpad? Sure the extra performance is nice but most games don't need that extra performance. It's a no brainer to me
Could you inform me what you need the trackpad for? I haven’t used one of these handhelds yet so I’m wondering why it’s so important? Also isn’t the Ally X touchscreen?
I went with a legion go because you get both of those benefits. The extra power and adjustable tdp definitely makes a big difference. Didn't like the idea of being limited in games I could play. It just plays everything.
Thats why helldivers for the ps5 is so goated ignoring the uh, *obvious issues*, because the map is so easy to use and interact with, it feels like literall blessed spud potato magic
I also have the steam deck and when I play left for dead 2 there is no chance in hell I could compete with anyone if I couldn't use a trackpad. I put 500 hours into the game on the deck before I switched to the trackpad now I have over 1000 hours total and when I try to use the joystick I feel like a retarded buffoon. Insanity ROG would not have a trackpad. Not only that the trackpad itself needs to be wider than it is tall.
The Steam Deck experience for me has been just great and the trackpads are awesome. It helped me play a lot of my older games / indie titles to reduce my pile of shame and it has enough power to play most modern games with at least 30fps (which isn't that bad on a small screen). Most important: I completely trust Valve - they accomplished something really great and showed some love for us nerds. I'm already completely sold for Steam Deck 2 ❤
The legion go is the best windows handheld on the market. It is bigger but the power is very good and it has a right trackpad. I do like the steam decks simplicity though. Hoping to see new hardware from valve soon
And I love my Ally Z1 Extreme. I've been using it for 7 months, bought it at JB Hi-Fi, and I've never had any issues.love my ally z1 extreme. I've been using mine for 7 months and never had an issue bought in on jb-hi fi. Can play any games I throw at it and it has 3 months free gamepass so you already have free unli games as soo as you bought it.
@@inff3rnovalve just does that. They like never advertise their stuff or tell you if you can buy it. They basically just rely on friends or influencers telling you their products exist
I have the 1tb OLED model. I consciously knew the GO and Ally had better hardware but ive heard people had issues so i was cautious. Ended up buying the steam deck because its Linux and holy shit, its incredibly stable and i love it.
The disavantage is that it's limited to 15Watts good for Emulation but terrible for upcoming games, so if you see a good game you like and it stutters your out of luck.
@@PickMinistry I think the steam deck would be better for me personally cuz I already bought a bunch of games on steam. So u could be right for someone else
a big thing I don't hear many talk about from the price perspective: even if you can afford the Ally X, it being twice the price makes it a lot bigger of a risk to take outside. And with Asus's reputation for warranty and repairs, it doesn't look great either. Having a handheld you're too worried to bring around with you is very limiting to me.
Half the people saying this have bo experience with asus. Gamer nexus already got them to make a bunch of commitments, and the company is on eggshells, plus you can return it depending on the retailer.
@@CodyslxI’d rather stick with valve imo, Huge community, they partnered with iFixit so you can easily repair your steamdeck, better warranty, better QOL updates. That’s just me tho. Plus the carrying case is 🤌
I own an ROG Ally classic. I personally modded the Windows 11 OS to debloat it, use a custom theme with it, have it launch into Steam Big Picture Mode as opposed to Armory Crate, and even using the Windows version of DeckyLoader to customize Big Picture Mode. It's honestly a lot of fun. Yes, there's no touchpads on the the Ally, but the games I personally play, I don't need the touchpads. I just use the right stick or on some occasion, the touch screen. As someone who's actually tried gaming on Linux, it has it's limitations, even with Wine or Proton when it comes to playing Windows games on it.
The trackpads on SteamDeck are essential for me as it allows me to play older PC games or games that heavily uses mouse input like The Sims or Europa Universalis on the go. I do have dualboot so if there's any anticheat games then I can just boot into Windows so win win. Although it's worth mentioning that the Ally X's performance sure would be nice 😄
Also own both. Honestly the only thing the Steam Deck OLED has over the Ally X is the OLED screen. Everything else (battery, performance, versatility) the Ally X wins. Just installed Bazzite on the Ally X and I basically have a more powerful steam deck without the OLED screen.
I'd go with the steam deck, at least until the official version of steam os launches foe the ally x. And even then i'm not sure because the trackpads are such a huge advantage.
@@jakobsongam1 no sir its not if its the regular rog ally i wouldn't even say a word... Thats like comparing the base ps4 to the xbox one X or base series X to the ps5 pro or base xbox one to the ps4 pro....
@@leophoenix1452 well I didn't realize that rog ally x was a more powerful version. I seriously thought that's the regular name, I didn't even know there were different models of this
@@jakobsongam1 not steam oled not just different screen, bettery , nm6 , ram , there different things same ally x is different in bettery and ram other is same ally z1
The day things like the ROG Ally start copying the same control layout and features of the Steam Deck, including the dual haptic-feedback touchpads, and start having the SteamOS already pre-installed: Then, and only then, I'm gonna be considering them as an alternative for the Steam Deck.
The Bitlock happened to me on my ally but now it’s all good and honestly im glad I chose it over the stream deck, I love being able to use windows with it on the go ❤
Can we have a video/short for helping people decide what budget to give to your pc, I am saving up for parts but it is slow and I would like to know what I acctually need for gaming and recording some stuff.
I don't have either but I gotta say, I think the layout of the Steamdeck seems pretty smart. I wish more controllers did this, instead of offsetting the analog sticks so much/far.
I'd personally recommend Steam Deck to people who want a "console" or want an easy and stable entry point into Linux (the Steam Deck encouraged me to pick up Linux as my primary OS of choice). I'd recommend the Ally X (or other Windows handhelds) for the power and for compatibility with anti-cheat or other types of software. If you want a desktop PC, most people would probably want something Windows, too. Of course, you can install things like Windows on a Steam Deck or BazziteOS on a Windows handheld. I love the amount of options we have to pick from now!
I was nervous to start linux gaming on the SD but unless i wanna play something online i actually prefer it now and i dont have any issues with the deck in all hoensty i legit love it
I dont understand when people keep complaining that the Ally X is double the price of the steam deck. If you compare apple to apple, ally x is only $150 more than the steam deck oled 1tb. Yes, you have option buy the $399 LCD model that everyone keep using as comparison. But thats only 256GB. For $150 more than the OLED 1TB SD, you get 24GB of ram, 80Wh battery, faster processor, VRR, 1080p display. I own the original SD and if i were to upgrade, Allay X is a no brainer. Which is soon!!!
I don’t understand why some people hammer down how steam deck OLED is better than the X. This is exactly a no-brainer. I have gamepass and epic games. I would hate to be constricted to the steam os
@@ItsCOMMANDer_ “not pre-programmed but easy and officially supported by Sony” I don’t disagree with you one bit. Just adding a touch of context to your point my boy.
I'm trying to dodge kernel anticheat at all cost. It's very insecure and most of the times is just a backdoor for hackers and malware. So yeah, play those games at your own risk...
The Rog Ally is incredible already. Everyone loves Steam Deck, I had both, LCD and OLED, but moved to the EOG Ally. The fact that I couldn't play xbox app games installed bothered me. Also, the 120hz VRR screen beats the 90 oled.
@@eduardocornejo1866a lot of fps games don’t have aim assist and the trackpads are sooo much better for aiming. Or games like CRPG’s and strategy games or games that need slot of mouse input like Civ benefit a ton from trackpads. They can also act like extra binds too. Tbh if the games that do have controller support let me use trackpad instead of joystick but still keep controller suppose I’d use track pad
Im waiting on getting either because I have a Switch OLED and I still am playing games on it. I think once I finish I might consider getting a SteamDeck OLED because my Steam library is packed full of games. I wish the PS Portal could play without WiFi cause I would rather get that, but alas it doesn’t.
They should have done Vita 2 instead of a streaming machine. You can do everything the portal can on a phone with a controller attached. Proves they just want to push streaming / subscription services going forwards. Gaming as we know it is dying.
I got my Steam Deck for 360 with taxes for the 512GB OLED model on Black Friday. For the money, I think it’s one of the most impressive pieces of hardware I own.
Day 1 of asking: What would you improve in my first custom gaming PC? I have a budget of 1500€ (1660.99$) and I only want the money to get in the perfomance not in Lds and shiny stuff. I picked: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F, 6C/12T, 3.70-5.00GHz GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Windforce OC (the Gigabyte version) ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI be quiet! Light Wings PWM, 120mm be quiet! Light Wings PWM, 140mm Fractal Design North Charcoal Black (I just love the wooden design) be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W ATX 3.0 ENDORFY Spartan 5 Max Kingston FURY Beast Black DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR5-5600 MSI Spatium M450 1TB The PC currently costs around 1420.38€ (1572.83$). I’m only 15 now and applying for a job, so I don’t really want to waste my hard-earned money.
I think hand helds might be a blast from the past. It feels like everyone in my childhood has handhelds then everyone went consoles, then PCs but handhelds are getting competitive soon I feel.
I would never go for windows based handheld not only as windows just an inferior operating system like it has ads even though it cost $150 but if I’m playing on a handheld, I just want my games to work. That’s why steam deck is so good.
"Just want games to work" windows is better imo because of compatibility, steam deck won't run most games unless you spend hours tinkering with Proton SD
I have oled deck and ally x. People never talk about the screen resolution difference between them, 800p stretched over a slightly bigger deck screen is blurrier, whereas the ally has 1080p on a slightly smaller screen that looks super sharp. This with the very noticeably better performance has me on the ally much more than deck. Was a deck fan since launch but I’ve moved onto the newer better tech.
Steam Deck Oled has issues playing newer AAA games. Spend the extra money and buy the more powerful Ally X . You will be future proof until the Steam Deck 2 / Rog Ally 2 comes out in 2026 or later . You cant play games like COD , Destiny 2 and Fifa games because the Anti Cheat doesn't work on Linux based SteamOS. Owned both. Rog Ally X is the one to buy. I guess SteamOS is the Steam Decks biggest strength and weakness.
Y'know since steam OS is arch based you could probably install xfce, gnome or hell even i3 or hyprland to it, they'd be a pain (especially those last 2) to use without a keyboard but you could
I have a Z1 Extreme and ive been a happy camper with it. Played Starfield on a buddies Steamdeck before making my decision and the ROG Ally was the better choice.
Not out of the box but with a little research you can put windows on the steam deck. That's what I've done as a day 1 steam deck owner and haven't gone back.
I'm split between MSI Claw and ROG Ally, I've seen every reviews I could watch and as expected both got their own issues but mostly lean towards ROG Ally so I think I might get the latter
I bought the deck as soon as I could, and after about a year, it just stopped booting. I can't lie, I loved it. It's a brick now, and I can't fix it or afford a new one. I have always been a handheld nerd, and I go back to Game Boy 1. The Steam Deck is fantastic. I loved mine. My friends all have different handhelds and a buddy has the Ally and he says it's legit so maybe I'll go that route... I don't know yet. Not being able to buy either means I have lots of time to do my research lol
The Steam Deck was made because Valve of all companies decided they needed to make a piece of hardware. And when they make something they make damn sure they make it well.
You should really try the legion go, its a pretty good device, along with using lossless scaling, it makes playing most games much more enjoyable in handheld devices
I have wondered about these devices. Could have really used one during COVID times as I had my share of boring hotel evenings then, but those days are long gone now. These are the type of "would be fun to try" before buy...
I mean, if someone is questioning whether to go PC or console, i feel like the simple solution in the short term is picking up a cheap currwnt gen console. Scooping a refurbished on sale series or finding a cheap base, digital PS5. Theres nothing wrong with gaming on both console and PC even if someone picks up or builds a PC later.
If anything, what I would probably end up doing is just gutting out the steam deck, oled and stuffing in all the components from the rog ally x i love the form factor and the feel of a steam deck in hand but the ally x is the king of handhelds, it wins beats out everything hands down
2x the cost for a slightly higher performance? I'll go with the steam deck. These days, you can get a way more powerful PC for $800 used if you find a great deal. A desktop may not be portable, but you get the price to performance you wanted.
Can you please make a (non-gaming) PC building guide for mild video editing and multi-tasking that can still some less graphics-intensive games (the most intensive being something like Minecraft with some shaders)?
ROG Ally connects to the XG mobile (eGPU) graphics card booster, proprietary. Would like to see a comparison on feasibility of connecting Steam deck to eGPU and compare with Ally on XG mobile see which is the best
I love my Ally X :) my family got it for my 40th birthday last week hehe be sure to get yourself a portable external keyboard and mouse for games that are not compatible with the game controller.
Steam kinda seems a bit more power efficient. And also have more controlls, especially trackpads which can be set up in tons of different ways making it very flexible even for shooters or big management games. Friend got rog ally recently (not x), I kinda wonder to swap with him for couple days to see difference.
i don't have a steam deck but honestly at this point there's so many great games out there that having to give up EA games means nothing to me, i can just find something better to play that works on the deck
Test out the Steam Deck OLED, it's a major upgrade over the normal steam deck, and if you're comparing an LCD steam deck to the Ally X, it's just not a fair comparison
My issue with the ROG Ally X is that it has no touch pads, no touch sensors on the control sticks (which are essential for flick stick, and once you get used to flick stick you never want to go back to regular aiming controls) and it only has 2 back buttons. That's way too many setbacks on controls and for almost double the price.
You can still play games that don’t work on Linux by just installing windows on the steam deck. While it’s not the most user friendly process and you need a usb hub and a flash drive, it works pretty well once it’s installed.
You’re able to play AAA titles on the steam deck if you’re willing to buy and install windows on a micro SD card and dual boot between steam OS and windows. I’ve been doing that for the three months and it works beautifully
Usually steam OS would run better then windows, but I debloated my windows install so there wouldn’t be any background applications running. It definitely helped with performance, but it’s a lot harder to maintain then Steam OS
I absolutely love my ally x. Ive never had a blue screen, never have issues with games and the battery life is pretty good. Plus since it is running windows i replaced my desktop pc with it.(my desktop was pretty old anyway)
soon windows might replace kernel level softwares drivers with an api. (due to crowdstrike) if that happens, wine/proton will start being able to translate these api calls, meaning that you might be able to play games with kernel anti-cheat on the steam deck soon.
Replaced my steam deck with the original Ally, best decision I ever made minus the battery life. So much more versatile than the steam deck and just plays everything flawlessly
the steam deck has trackpads. they seem useless, but they make navigating the desktop sooo much easier and the lack of them on the rog ally lock you out of a lot of games. also, correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure dual booting windows on a steam deck is easier than dual booting steamos on the rog ally
I have a ryzen 7 7700x. I play minecraft on shaders. What is a good gpu for my build? I have 3 decisions. The rx 7800xt, rtx 4070 ti, and the rtx 4070 super. Btw I built my own pc at 12. Im subbed btw. Ur the goat.
What I hate is that so many people talk about anti-cheat games and a lot of them are just sports or shooters. I couldn't care less about those games but I want to know the big games like elden Ring and other games that are process heavy that could cause the steam deck to have issues while the ally x has the ability to run them very smoothly but I cannot find anyone who mentions that type of comparison overall
I originally was looking at getting a steam deck but then decided to go for an ROG ally or legion go since I’d use it mainly for online comp. Games on the go which most require anti-cheat software installed. Which in most cases steam deck does not support.
counterpoint: you can just install windows on sd and boot from that or even boot from a partition on the steam deck to play games that dont run on linux or through proton/wine on the steamdeck. and all without losing warranty or being scammed.
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If money is no issue then I’d go with the ROG Ally X. If you’re on a strict budget, I’d go with the Steam Deck.
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There is one fatal flaw in the Ally X that makes me choose a steam deck any day over it, THERES NO TRACK PAD. So handling windows itself or any game that has a lot of pointing and clicking is immediately 10x more miserable than it is on the steam deck.
Strict budget? What do you mean. It's 700
One point of advandage for the steam deck is that you won't be scammed out of your warranty if you ever need it.
Only of you buy from steam, an option not available in most countries
I was shocked when he didn't bring this up
What do you mean by that? I'm looking into getting a gaming pc and wanna start with one of these
@@MISTER-BESTER ASUS has a bad reputation of scamming its customers. GamerNexus did a video exposing ASUS, voiding warranties on purpose in order to force the client to purchase a new portable gaming pc or hardware.
@@MISTER-BESTER Valve actually cares about their customers
"There's zero way to play EA scam games on the Steam Deck" That sounds like a feature.
It’s also a false statement since if you really wanted to you could install windows on the Steam deck and just dual boot
@@TheHashtagSquad2K15 this is what i did to play rust on mine, windows on a micro sd. no issues
@@TheHashtagSquad2K15 That's stupid it's like saying oh SteamOS is not an advantage because you can install Bazzite on Ally also 😂
Shut up please
@@TRX25EX how is that stupid? You can’t say that there is “no way” and then offer a way and you come back with “nuh uhhh that doesn’t count”. It’s a legitimate way to be able to run any games that won’t run on Linux.
@@TheHashtagSquad2K15 Shut up already
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I genuinely prefer the steam deck mostly because windows can be an absolute hassle with tons of issues because of a bad update and valve’s steamOS genuinely works flawlessly and has so much customisation (via a plugin known as decky loader) so yeah as the pinned comment says, if you’re on a tight budget get a steam deck. If you’re willing to deal with windows issues and wanna play games that have a stricter anti-cheat then get the ASUS ROG ally (although as mentioned in the vid it costs almost twice as much)
whats even funnier is that steamos is just a normal linux distro where steam automatically starts
@@wellsilver3972 Not at all, SteamOS is a lightly modified version of Arch.
@@wellsilver3972 yup literally window’s competitor 😭
Fool asus has steam deck os
@@wellsilver3972Not that simple, but arch linux is almost the same thing with the same support and works on basically anything plus the steam-play ui can be started easily
The Steam Deck has shown me that a trackpad is a necessity for handheld pc gaming and wii emulation. So in my opinion, no way in hell I would buy an ROG Ally. Why spend 800 bucks on a console that you are required to bring an external mouse with you to use when there are competitors that are 100-400 dollars cheaper with a built-in trackpad? Sure the extra performance is nice but most games don't need that extra performance. It's a no brainer to me
Could you inform me what you need the trackpad for? I haven’t used one of these handhelds yet so I’m wondering why it’s so important? Also isn’t the Ally X touchscreen?
I went with a legion go because you get both of those benefits. The extra power and adjustable tdp definitely makes a big difference. Didn't like the idea of being limited in games I could play. It just plays everything.
Thats why helldivers for the ps5 is so goated ignoring the uh, *obvious issues*, because the map is so easy to use and interact with, it feels like literall blessed spud potato magic
I also have the steam deck and when I play left for dead 2 there is no chance in hell I could compete with anyone if I couldn't use a trackpad. I put 500 hours into the game on the deck before I switched to the trackpad now I have over 1000 hours total and when I try to use the joystick I feel like a retarded buffoon. Insanity ROG would not have a trackpad. Not only that the trackpad itself needs to be wider than it is tall.
@@DGENexMACHINA the bad thing with legion go is that its HUGE but like Huge Huge
The fact that handhelds have come this far is insane. If I showed this me kid me w his PSP, it would blow his mind
For real bro the PSP is a legend
The Forefather of Handheld Consoles (Sorry DSi, never liked you that much).
show it to my kid-self with monochrome LCD handhelds worse than GameBoy
I have a Switch OLED and a DSi XL and the difference in graphics between MKDS and MK8DX is galactic
The Steam Deck experience for me has been just great and the trackpads are awesome. It helped me play a lot of my older games / indie titles to reduce my pile of shame and it has enough power to play most modern games with at least 30fps (which isn't that bad on a small screen).
Most important: I completely trust Valve - they accomplished something really great and showed some love for us nerds. I'm already completely sold for Steam Deck 2 ❤
The legion go is the best windows handheld on the market. It is bigger but the power is very good and it has a right trackpad. I do like the steam decks simplicity though. Hoping to see new hardware from valve soon
The ROG Ally X is also much more available in various countries, in fact in Australia it's usually our *only* Steam Deck-like option
Apart from the Legion Go, but there’s no significant craggy between them
And I love my Ally Z1 Extreme. I've been using it for 7 months, bought it at JB Hi-Fi, and I've never had any issues.love my ally z1 extreme. I've been using mine for 7 months and never had an issue bought in on jb-hi fi. Can play any games I throw at it and it has 3 months free gamepass so you already have free unli games as soo as you bought it.
You can get the steamdeck in Australia
@@TechnoMinarchist Just checked, yeah ur right. For some reason they didn’t update their website to match it
@@inff3rnovalve just does that. They like never advertise their stuff or tell you if you can buy it. They basically just rely on friends or influencers telling you their products exist
I have the 1tb OLED model. I consciously knew the GO and Ally had better hardware but ive heard people had issues so i was cautious. Ended up buying the steam deck because its Linux and holy shit, its incredibly stable and i love it.
As somebody who doesn’t have a whole lotta money, the steam deck is better cuz I might be able to afford it
The disavantage is that it's limited to 15Watts good for Emulation but terrible for upcoming games, so if you see a good game you like and it stutters your out of luck.
Isn't rog ally even better of a value then as you are not stuck to single launcher and free games from epic gog prime other alternatives
@@PickMinistry I think the steam deck would be better for me personally cuz I already bought a bunch of games on steam. So u could be right for someone else
@@mickeymouze5 ?? its not limited to 15 watts
@@PickMinistry Your not stuck to a single launcher, you can download epic, ea, etc.
a big thing I don't hear many talk about from the price perspective: even if you can afford the Ally X, it being twice the price makes it a lot bigger of a risk to take outside. And with Asus's reputation for warranty and repairs, it doesn't look great either. Having a handheld you're too worried to bring around with you is very limiting to me.
Half the people saying this have bo experience with asus. Gamer nexus already got them to make a bunch of commitments, and the company is on eggshells, plus you can return it depending on the retailer.
@@CodyslxI’d rather stick with valve imo, Huge community, they partnered with iFixit so you can easily repair your steamdeck, better warranty, better QOL updates. That’s just me tho. Plus the carrying case is 🤌
Put a case on mine and I carry it everywhere. Don't be throwing off a cliff, and don't be walking while you play like a fool
Can't wait for RyzenOS to be released. It's been recorded to run all games available on linux and windows.
ur joking?
RYZEN GLAZE ALL THE WAYYYY 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Fekxyz-gr8hc related to the joke about Ryzen 4070
@@guyman1570 it's unfunny af
I own an ROG Ally classic. I personally modded the Windows 11 OS to debloat it, use a custom theme with it, have it launch into Steam Big Picture Mode as opposed to Armory Crate, and even using the Windows version of DeckyLoader to customize Big Picture Mode. It's honestly a lot of fun. Yes, there's no touchpads on the the Ally, but the games I personally play, I don't need the touchpads. I just use the right stick or on some occasion, the touch screen. As someone who's actually tried gaming on Linux, it has it's limitations, even with Wine or Proton when it comes to playing Windows games on it.
The trackpads on SteamDeck are essential for me as it allows me to play older PC games or games that heavily uses mouse input like The Sims or Europa Universalis on the go. I do have dualboot so if there's any anticheat games then I can just boot into Windows so win win. Although it's worth mentioning that the Ally X's performance sure would be nice 😄
Ally x destroys the steamdeck battery wise as well, even running at a higher than 15 watts.
Also own both. Honestly the only thing the Steam Deck OLED has over the Ally X is the OLED screen. Everything else (battery, performance, versatility) the Ally X wins. Just installed Bazzite on the Ally X and I basically have a more powerful steam deck without the OLED screen.
I'd go with the steam deck, at least until the official version of steam os launches foe the ally x. And even then i'm not sure because the trackpads are such a huge advantage.
Why not use bazite?
I have bazzite on my Ally until the SteamOS public beta comes out this month
This is so unfair... Ally x vs the steam deck?... C'mon!
Do the steam deck OLED vs the rog ally X
Because both lcd
The comparision is fair. Steam deck oled is almost the same as the old model, the screen is just better
@@jakobsongam1 no sir its not if its the regular rog ally i wouldn't even say a word... Thats like comparing the base ps4 to the xbox one X or base series X to the ps5 pro or base xbox one to the ps4 pro....
@@leophoenix1452 well I didn't realize that rog ally x was a more powerful version. I seriously thought that's the regular name, I didn't even know there were different models of this
@@jakobsongam1 not steam oled not just different screen, bettery , nm6 , ram , there different things same ally x is different in bettery and ram other is same ally z1
I like how it goes "They both have DISadvantages"...
DualShock 4 has been my main controller for PC. And it’s gyro that justifies it. Very useful for pretty much every FPS game.
The day things like the ROG Ally start copying the same control layout and features of the Steam Deck, including the dual haptic-feedback touchpads, and start having the SteamOS already pre-installed: Then, and only then, I'm gonna be considering them as an alternative for the Steam Deck.
Preach
The Bitlock happened to me on my ally but now it’s all good and honestly im glad I chose it over the stream deck, I love being able to use windows with it on the go ❤
Can we have a video/short for helping people decide what budget to give to your pc,
I am saving up for parts but it is slow and I would like to know what I acctually need for gaming and recording some stuff.
Anything current gen that's mid range should be perfectly fine even stuff thats a couple generations old will be just fine for gaming and recording.
Dont be afraid to use older parts, they can still dominate with a good combo.
@@TheRealTreener thank you, is jawa really that trustworthy?
@@josephhutchins8 ok, i previously used a low end laptop with igrphics which was terrible so anything is an upgrade
@@frazzleegg Yeah literally anything will be an upgrade then, did you have a budget in mind or some parts you were thinking of?
I don't have either but I gotta say, I think the layout of the Steamdeck seems pretty smart. I wish more controllers did this, instead of offsetting the analog sticks so much/far.
Wtf i just stumbled across this its fresh content
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There are so many steam deck vs __ videos. This is the first one I've seen as a short.
@@Ryhillchibulls I was early bruh😭🙏
I got a non extreme Ally open box for $300 at Best Buy last Christmas and I love it.
I said: "really? Why?" out loud in a subway cart because of this video
I'd personally recommend Steam Deck to people who want a "console" or want an easy and stable entry point into Linux (the Steam Deck encouraged me to pick up Linux as my primary OS of choice). I'd recommend the Ally X (or other Windows handhelds) for the power and for compatibility with anti-cheat or other types of software. If you want a desktop PC, most people would probably want something Windows, too.
Of course, you can install things like Windows on a Steam Deck or BazziteOS on a Windows handheld. I love the amount of options we have to pick from now!
alternative to steam deck and rog ally x: get a ROG Ally Z1
Blud, you know what, whos gonna tell him?
@@Mr.Duckoffical I just made this comment to say I feel like he should've mentioned the rog ally z1
I was nervous to start linux gaming on the SD but unless i wanna play something online i actually prefer it now and i dont have any issues with the deck in all hoensty i legit love it
I dont understand when people keep complaining that the Ally X is double the price of the steam deck. If you compare apple to apple, ally x is only $150 more than the steam deck oled 1tb. Yes, you have option buy the $399 LCD model that everyone keep using as comparison. But thats only 256GB. For $150 more than the OLED 1TB SD, you get 24GB of ram, 80Wh battery, faster processor, VRR, 1080p display. I own the original SD and if i were to upgrade, Allay X is a no brainer. Which is soon!!!
I don’t understand why some people hammer down how steam deck OLED is better than the X. This is exactly a no-brainer. I have gamepass and epic games. I would hate to be constricted to the steam os
@edom5765, those apps already work on the steam deck
@@edom5765Main reason Im getting a Rog Ally X, SteamOS is absolutely awful
Others: “We put the pictures of things we like on the wall.”
Him: Yeah Right 👍
Day 23 of asking Zach to make wall art out of his old product boxs.
Funfact: The Steamdeck was the first popular Console (handhelds included) which uses linux.
Unless you loaded it on your PS2/PS3. Not pre-programmed but easy and officially supported by Sony.
@@pboogity8309 was supported* they remived ps3, and that would be installed then, i talking abiut used, out of the box
@@ItsCOMMANDer_ “not pre-programmed but easy and officially supported by Sony”
I don’t disagree with you one bit. Just adding a touch of context to your point my boy.
I'm trying to dodge kernel anticheat at all cost. It's very insecure and most of the times is just a backdoor for hackers and malware. So yeah, play those games at your own risk...
The Rog Ally is incredible already. Everyone loves Steam Deck, I had both, LCD and OLED, but moved to the EOG Ally. The fact that I couldn't play xbox app games installed bothered me. Also, the 120hz VRR screen beats the 90 oled.
One has track pads, one doesnt. Enough said.
I really don't get the appeal with the track pads. My legion go has one and I barely use it
@@benhawk4214 indie game dorks I guess. PlayStation and Xbox didn't have track pads for decades and gaming was no issue.
I never use the trackpads legit never
@@eduardocornejo1866 you want a cookie?
@@eduardocornejo1866a lot of fps games don’t have aim assist and the trackpads are sooo much better for aiming. Or games like CRPG’s and strategy games or games that need slot of mouse input like Civ benefit a ton from trackpads. They can also act like extra binds too. Tbh if the games that do have controller support let me use trackpad instead of joystick but still keep controller suppose I’d use track pad
Im waiting on getting either because I have a Switch OLED and I still am playing games on it. I think once I finish I might consider getting a SteamDeck OLED because my Steam library is packed full of games. I wish the PS Portal could play without WiFi cause I would rather get that, but alas it doesn’t.
They should have done Vita 2 instead of a streaming machine. You can do everything the portal can on a phone with a controller attached. Proves they just want to push streaming / subscription services going forwards. Gaming as we know it is dying.
Damn ally x is as expensive as a decent gaming pc
I got my Steam Deck for 360 with taxes for the 512GB OLED model on Black Friday. For the money, I think it’s one of the most impressive pieces of hardware I own.
Day 1 of asking:
What would you improve in my first custom gaming PC? I have a budget of 1500€ (1660.99$) and I only want the money to get in the perfomance not in Lds and shiny stuff.
I picked:
AMD Ryzen 5 7500F, 6C/12T, 3.70-5.00GHz
GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Windforce OC (the Gigabyte version)
ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI
be quiet! Light Wings PWM, 120mm
be quiet! Light Wings PWM, 140mm
Fractal Design North Charcoal Black (I just love the wooden design)
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W ATX 3.0
ENDORFY Spartan 5 Max
Kingston FURY Beast Black DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR5-5600
MSI Spatium M450 1TB
The PC currently costs around 1420.38€ (1572.83$).
I’m only 15 now and applying for a job, so I don’t really want to waste my hard-earned money.
A pc and a handheld has different purpose. I don't see the point why your recommending a pc to a handheld review. 🤦♂️
@@nathanjuan6042Im not recommending it Im searching for help 🤦♂️
I think hand helds might be a blast from the past. It feels like everyone in my childhood has handhelds then everyone went consoles, then PCs but handhelds are getting competitive soon I feel.
he mistyped the price, Rog Ally costs 699 and Ally X costs 899
Steam Deck on the other hand costs around 499
Only for the oled version, you can sometimes find the base version for around the price of a switch
@@Outlow2400 OLED costs 599, best case, but yes, the standard model can be found for 399 too
Ally is on sale for $400 right now and Ally Z is $699
Refurbished from steam $380
I got ally x with taxes $856.00
That "Red,White,Black " keyboard looks dope
I would never go for windows based handheld not only as windows just an inferior operating system like it has ads even though it cost $150 but if I’m playing on a handheld, I just want my games to work. That’s why steam deck is so good.
If you "just want games to work", you need Windows for that.
"Just want games to work" windows is better imo because of compatibility, steam deck won't run most games unless you spend hours tinkering with Proton SD
I have oled deck and ally x. People never talk about the screen resolution difference between them, 800p stretched over a slightly bigger deck screen is blurrier, whereas the ally has 1080p on a slightly smaller screen that looks super sharp. This with the very noticeably better performance has me on the ally much more than deck. Was a deck fan since launch but I’ve moved onto the newer better tech.
Steam Deck OLED
Im getting my rog ally x today. I can't wait
Steam Deck Oled has issues playing newer AAA games. Spend the extra money and buy the more powerful Ally X . You will be future proof until the Steam Deck 2 / Rog Ally 2 comes out in 2026 or later . You cant play games like COD , Destiny 2 and Fifa games because the Anti Cheat doesn't work on Linux based SteamOS. Owned both. Rog Ally X is the one to buy. I guess SteamOS is the Steam Decks biggest strength and weakness.
I went the ally because of windows. It's also very usable as a dockable workstation for doing mundane things like text documents and audio editing.
Upside of steam deck: runs linux KDE
Downside of ROG: runs windows
Y'know since steam OS is arch based you could probably install xfce, gnome or hell even i3 or hyprland to it, they'd be a pain (especially those last 2) to use without a keyboard but you could
I'd swap it on its head
I just got Unreal Tournament ‘99 working on my steam deck. The OLED screen is breathtakingly beautiful. I’m in gamer heaven.
800 dollars for a switch that runs windows is a war crime
He is only praising it because it’s a sponsor. RUclipsrs are sellouts so it’s no surprise
Yeah but it's more powerful and better tho
That's an ROG Ally X, not a switch.
The ally x is massively more powerful than a switch. As a rough guide it’s something like 0.4 tflops v 8.6 tflops, so maybe 10 times the power.
@@javi3086 actually 21 times more powerful than switch
I have a Z1 Extreme and ive been a happy camper with it. Played Starfield on a buddies Steamdeck before making my decision and the ROG Ally was the better choice.
Not out of the box but with a little research you can put windows on the steam deck. That's what I've done as a day 1 steam deck owner and haven't gone back.
I'm split between MSI Claw and ROG Ally, I've seen every reviews I could watch and as expected both got their own issues but mostly lean towards ROG Ally so I think I might get the latter
I got the legion go and my experience with it has been excellent
I bought the deck as soon as I could, and after about a year, it just stopped booting. I can't lie, I loved it. It's a brick now, and I can't fix it or afford a new one. I have always been a handheld nerd, and I go back to Game Boy 1. The Steam Deck is fantastic. I loved mine. My friends all have different handhelds and a buddy has the Ally and he says it's legit so maybe I'll go that route... I don't know yet. Not being able to buy either means I have lots of time to do my research lol
The Steam Deck was made because Valve of all companies decided they needed to make a piece of hardware. And when they make something they make damn sure they make it well.
You should really try the legion go, its a pretty good device, along with using lossless scaling, it makes playing most games much more enjoyable in handheld devices
I've had the ally for a few months and windows is not that much of a problem.
I almost bought the RAX yesterday and the store rep hits me with a “It’s sold out, I’m sorry!” 😬
I have wondered about these devices. Could have really used one during COVID times as I had my share of boring hotel evenings then, but those days are long gone now. These are the type of "would be fun to try" before buy...
The Ally with dualboot into steamOS would be crazy
SD OLED with Z1 Extreme is the dream machine
Please make a long form review comparing these handhelds
I heard about pre-release allys with win issues, but I did find any. Though I updated all the things before starting using it
I mean, if someone is questioning whether to go PC or console, i feel like the simple solution in the short term is picking up a cheap currwnt gen console. Scooping a refurbished on sale series or finding a cheap base, digital PS5. Theres nothing wrong with gaming on both console and PC even if someone picks up or builds a PC later.
what game were you playing at 00:50 ?? It looked really good
SteamOS coming stock on Ally X would make it the perfect handheld. However perfect doesn't exist
That's exactly what they announced like 2 days ago or something.
I have both og Ally and steam deck OLED. Both are great devices but I pick up the Ally more now
It doesn’t cost almost double , you have to compare apples with apples a top of the line steam deck vs top of line ally is roughly the same price
If anything, what I would probably end up doing is just gutting out the steam deck, oled and stuffing in all the components from the rog ally x i love the form factor and the feel of a steam deck in hand but the ally x is the king of handhelds, it wins beats out everything hands down
2x the cost for a slightly higher performance? I'll go with the steam deck. These days, you can get a way more powerful PC for $800 used if you find a great deal. A desktop may not be portable, but you get the price to performance you wanted.
How does the Steam Deck run your Steam library as seamlessly as a console if you can't play Madden and FIFA on it?
Yep!
I'd still buy Steam Deck, because it's just a small computer which means you can just install windows on it if you don't want Linux.
Can you please make a (non-gaming) PC building guide for mild video editing and multi-tasking that can still some less graphics-intensive games (the most intensive being something like Minecraft with some shaders)?
Just build anything with a mid range processor and GPU. You don’t need a guide.
ROG Ally connects to the XG mobile (eGPU) graphics card booster, proprietary. Would like to see a comparison on feasibility of connecting Steam deck to eGPU and compare with Ally on XG mobile see which is the best
I love my Ally X :) my family got it for my 40th birthday last week hehe be sure to get yourself a portable external keyboard and mouse for games that are not compatible with the game controller.
Steam kinda seems a bit more power efficient. And also have more controlls, especially trackpads which can be set up in tons of different ways making it very flexible even for shooters or big management games. Friend got rog ally recently (not x), I kinda wonder to swap with him for couple days to see difference.
If compared, compare Decky with Ally and Decky OLED with Ally X. Especially when you bring on the performance.
i don't have a steam deck but honestly at this point there's so many great games out there that having to give up EA games means nothing to me, i can just find something better to play that works on the deck
Test out the Steam Deck OLED, it's a major upgrade over the normal steam deck, and if you're comparing an LCD steam deck to the Ally X, it's just not a fair comparison
Can you review the legion too😅?
I have both now and my ally X is my favorite .
Please do a review on the nitro blaze 7 next
My issue with the ROG Ally X is that it has no touch pads, no touch sensors on the control sticks (which are essential for flick stick, and once you get used to flick stick you never want to go back to regular aiming controls) and it only has 2 back buttons. That's way too many setbacks on controls and for almost double the price.
You can still play games that don’t work on Linux by just installing windows on the steam deck. While it’s not the most user friendly process and you need a usb hub and a flash drive, it works pretty well once it’s installed.
You’re able to play AAA titles on the steam deck if you’re willing to buy and install windows on a micro SD card and dual boot between steam OS and windows. I’ve been doing that for the three months and it works beautifully
Is there a tutorial for that?
Just search up how to dual boot windows on a steam deck
How is game performance on Windows vs Ally?
Usually steam OS would run better then windows, but I debloated my windows install so there wouldn’t be any background applications running.
It definitely helped with performance, but it’s a lot harder to maintain then Steam OS
I absolutely love my ally x. Ive never had a blue screen, never have issues with games and the battery life is pretty good. Plus since it is running windows i replaced my desktop pc with it.(my desktop was pretty old anyway)
soon windows might replace kernel level softwares drivers with an api. (due to crowdstrike)
if that happens, wine/proton will start being able to translate these api calls,
meaning that you might be able to play games with kernel anti-cheat on the steam deck soon.
Still have my SD lcd and still rockin. I'll just wait for SD2 if its worth upgrading
Replaced my steam deck with the original Ally, best decision I ever made minus the battery life. So much more versatile than the steam deck and just plays everything flawlessly
the steam deck has trackpads. they seem useless, but they make navigating the desktop sooo much easier and the lack of them on the rog ally lock you out of a lot of games. also, correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure dual booting windows on a steam deck is easier than dual booting steamos on the rog ally
I have a ryzen 7 7700x. I play minecraft on shaders. What is a good gpu for my build? I have 3 decisions. The rx 7800xt, rtx 4070 ti, and the rtx 4070 super. Btw I built my own pc at 12. Im subbed btw. Ur the goat.
Valve steam deck OLED is fantastic, love the fact u can take it out on the go. Play it at home. Play it when I go to my dads.
What I hate is that so many people talk about anti-cheat games and a lot of them are just sports or shooters. I couldn't care less about those games but I want to know the big games like elden Ring and other games that are process heavy that could cause the steam deck to have issues while the ally x has the ability to run them very smoothly but I cannot find anyone who mentions that type of comparison overall
I originally was looking at getting a steam deck but then decided to go for an ROG ally or legion go since I’d use it mainly for online comp. Games on the go which most require anti-cheat software installed. Which in most cases steam deck does not support.
THAT WINDOWS SOUND GAVE A HEART ATTACK, I AM IN MIDDLE OF DOING SOMETHING AND HEARING THAT IS THE LAST THING I WANT
Ally X is basically the OG Ally but instead of having a proprietary eGPU port they switched to thunderbolt 4
counterpoint: you can just install windows on sd and boot from that or even boot from a partition on the steam deck to play games that dont run on linux or through proton/wine on the steamdeck.
and all without losing warranty or being scammed.