Last week I was working on building a temporary race track and the only complaints were from old guys who wanted a track more like this video. Honestly I would love to see a modern bmx race on a track like this. It would be so funny to see the new school full carbon riders turn up and see tiny tight 180 turns, no flow, flat sections. I would enjoy that
Look at Griggs snap the lower gate. It's funny because, if I remember correctly, there was a restart in the 3rd AA main the previous year where Griggs went down before the first jump and a restart was called while Ellis was leading. Also remember Ellis had so many points he didn't even need to go to the grands and he'd have won the title.
this video is so cool. bmx racing back then is so cool to watch and see... I race 19-27x now and its interesting to see where it all started. - tj kearns
Check out Corky's other Grands videos and you can see that the tracks back then were meant to wreck you. You had jumps that were too short and riders end up flatting the landing. Lips that would launch you. There was a jump at the old Cowtown BMX in Ft. Worth TX called the 'Widow Maker' Now all the 'jumps' are all rounded nicely so no one gets hurt at the new break neck speeds racers are going these days. The speed is impressive, but there is no comparison to the elbows we used to throw in every race. That was the best! Dallas County Cycle Park 87-94 , Dean Hickey rules.
Totally agree with you, now with cowtown bmx track, I know the first cowtown i raced at had that big step up that was fun to jump. I think that track was near I 30 and I 35, then when the finnel became Vice President of ABA, Chris Eudaley opened up green goat bmx (cowtown bmx today) which is next to where the original cowtown was. Never got to race on the original. Dean hickey to me was by far one of the best track builders ever. I remember after the mesquite track closed to be moved to Sunnyvale, I used to race against this dude Jason Ream. Dean would get hyped up if Jason and I had a good race. I missed my racing days
@@slothitwonder1015 We must have run into each other then. I started racing at the Balch Springs track DCCP1, then both the Mesquite track off Bruton rd and then Sunnyvale! Small world. I remember a local race where Zach Roebuck, Jeremy Johnson, and Todd Kowalewski and I were in the main together. I was way in last (cause lets be real) and the 3 of them had an over the berm tussel in turn 2. I was able to get by and win that one.... They had to run get a trophy for me cause I needed proof that I won that race LOL
@@eelson2 oh man I know them!!!!! Dude that’s a awesome! Hey man whatever it takes to show proof lol. I went by the name “Bull” ... when I would be out in front, hickey would always go..”THE BULL IS LOOSE”... such an awesome guy! Did you know Michael Goodman, Pat Gumabon, Justin Wheat, Chris Ham, ect...?
@@slothitwonder1015 hey man! sorry for missing your reply, yes I knew all those guys. And I remember you! You must have been 11-12 or so at Sunnyvale? I got on the Texas Chain Gang team in 1992 ish. Used to sit off the first step up on the first straight with the Hams. I ran into Chris and Justin in Reno about 2001 at a National there.
@JaREEDeffect They had that "tight last turn" at the Grands for years. I can remember them specifically every year from '86 to '91. However, the controversy over the Amateur Title in '91 (due to a last-ditch move and controversial DQ) made that tight last turn disappear for a while... Plus berms are way bigger now...
To the guy who said his 15 year old would be pissed to show up at the Grands and see a track that weak? More likely he would be pissed because he would have actually had to pedal.
I just found on VHS from when i taped that weekend. I'm in the process of converting over video and I'll post also. For being 20+ years ago., IT WAS advanced. crazy how far BMX has come.
My thoughts, exactly. This track is "lame" because it was 20 years ago! No clips. No gigantic starting hills. And frankly, not nearly the budget available to put together the way things are done today. That's like saying old football videos are lame because they don't have giant pads and helmets and they don't hit as hard. Well, you can't please everyone.
Kaos !!!! I think my backyard track was bigger. LOL Still a blast to watch... but not much fun to be out there in the kaos... unless you were Charles. ;-) Charles 1 - Pete 2 - Billy 3 - Purse 4 - Gary 5 - Greg 6 - Steve 7 - May 8
Hard to believe this was 28 years ago, right? Did you see how hard Griggs cuts over out the gate in the 1st main? I feel like you don't see that kind of action anymore...
@@CodeRedRiot Racing today is WAY different than it was back then. Sad to see. Today's racing is so much "follow the leader" that it can actually be boring to watch. :-( Has everything to do with track design and clipless pedals.
thats is racing. I miss that type of racing. the pro races today are the most boring thing to watch, its follow the leader. The post on this video about the track being lame is just plain stupid
thats is racing. I miss that type of racing. the pro races today are the most boring thing to watch, its follow the leader. The first post on this video is just plain stupid
Last week I was working on building a temporary race track and the only complaints were from old guys who wanted a track more like this video. Honestly I would love to see a modern bmx race on a track like this. It would be so funny to see the new school full carbon riders turn up and see tiny tight 180 turns, no flow, flat sections. I would enjoy that
At this popint Griggs was racing on a Free Agent with Redline stickers. Switched after Kastan sold to Seattle bike company.
Look at Griggs snap the lower gate. It's funny because, if I remember correctly, there was a restart in the 3rd AA main the previous year where Griggs went down before the first jump and a restart was called while Ellis was leading. Also remember Ellis had so many points he didn't even need to go to the grands and he'd have won the title.
Veltman was so smooth, look at that manual over the first jump!! Pretty sure I won 8yr old open this year
this video is so cool. bmx racing back then is so cool to watch and see... I race 19-27x now and its interesting to see where it all started. - tj kearns
great times. i took 4th place in 17 and over novice.
Check out Corky's other Grands videos and you can see that the tracks back then were meant to wreck you. You had jumps that were too short and riders end up flatting the landing. Lips that would launch you. There was a jump at the old Cowtown BMX in Ft. Worth TX called the 'Widow Maker' Now all the 'jumps' are all rounded nicely so no one gets hurt at the new break neck speeds racers are going these days. The speed is impressive, but there is no comparison to the elbows we used to throw in every race. That was the best! Dallas County Cycle Park 87-94 , Dean Hickey rules.
Totally agree with you, now with cowtown bmx track, I know the first cowtown i raced at had that big step up that was fun to jump. I think that track was near I 30 and I 35, then when the finnel became Vice President of ABA, Chris Eudaley opened up green goat bmx (cowtown bmx today) which is next to where the original cowtown was. Never got to race on the original. Dean hickey to me was by far one of the best track builders ever. I remember after the mesquite track closed to be moved to Sunnyvale, I used to race against this dude Jason Ream. Dean would get hyped up if Jason and I had a good race. I missed my racing days
@@slothitwonder1015 We must have run into each other then. I started racing at the Balch Springs track DCCP1, then both the Mesquite track off Bruton rd and then Sunnyvale! Small world. I remember a local race where Zach Roebuck, Jeremy Johnson, and Todd Kowalewski and I were in the main together. I was way in last (cause lets be real) and the 3 of them had an over the berm tussel in turn 2. I was able to get by and win that one.... They had to run get a trophy for me cause I needed proof that I won that race LOL
@@eelson2 oh man I know them!!!!! Dude that’s a awesome! Hey man whatever it takes to show proof lol. I went by the name “Bull” ... when I would be out in front, hickey would always go..”THE BULL IS LOOSE”... such an awesome guy! Did you know Michael Goodman, Pat Gumabon, Justin Wheat, Chris Ham, ect...?
@@slothitwonder1015 hey man! sorry for missing your reply, yes I knew all those guys. And I remember you! You must have been 11-12 or so at Sunnyvale? I got on the Texas Chain Gang team in 1992 ish. Used to sit off the first step up on the first straight with the Hams. I ran into Chris and Justin in Reno about 2001 at a National there.
@@eelson2 man that’s really cool. What’s your name?
This was real bmx ,which should always include dirt and peddling
saw this and it took me back to being 13 years old and racing in Texas. still have all the powerlite bikes I rode from 8 to 15.
What track in Texas did you race at
Armadillo bmx. Over by Conroe.
@@evanmasters7475 cool I’ve raced there. What powerlites do you have. I had the powerlite P61 since ‘97
I've have a p38,p61 and a mini.
Plus a redline proline john purse special that was gifted to me.
@JaREEDeffect They had that "tight last turn" at the Grands for years. I can remember them specifically every year from '86 to '91. However, the controversy over the Amateur Title in '91 (due to a last-ditch move and controversial DQ) made that tight last turn disappear for a while... Plus berms are way bigger now...
How fast was the Spider ... Steve Veltman ! Would had cleaned up if he hadn’t fell off ! He was going too fast ! What a Machine .
It's like his bike just hit a squirrel and spontaneously combusted...
Awesome!! I miss those days!! Last race was Southpark Nationals got 2nd. 2014..got crohns had to quit.
To the guy who said his 15 year old would be pissed to show up at the Grands and see a track that weak? More likely he would be pissed because he would have actually had to pedal.
I just found on VHS from when i taped that weekend. I'm in the process of converting over video and I'll post also. For being 20+ years ago., IT WAS advanced. crazy how far BMX has come.
My thoughts, exactly. This track is "lame" because it was 20 years ago! No clips. No gigantic starting hills. And frankly, not nearly the budget available to put together the way things are done today. That's like saying old football videos are lame because they don't have giant pads and helmets and they don't hit as hard. Well, you can't please everyone.
Hey Corky any videos of the 89 aba grands?
Eventually, yeah. Trying to spread out my Grands uploads among other nationals to keep things interesting. :)
Been uploading all weekend. Got almost all of the '89 Grands uploaded now, including the Race of Champions and Honda Supercup footage we have on file.
Corky's BMX Archive love it
Kaos !!!! I think my backyard track was bigger. LOL Still a blast to watch... but not much fun to be out there in the kaos... unless you were Charles. ;-) Charles 1 - Pete 2 - Billy 3 - Purse 4 - Gary 5 - Greg 6 - Steve 7 - May 8
Hard to believe this was 28 years ago, right? Did you see how hard Griggs cuts over out the gate in the 1st main? I feel like you don't see that kind of action anymore...
@@CodeRedRiot Racing today is WAY different than it was back then. Sad to see. Today's racing is so much "follow the leader" that it can actually be boring to watch. :-( Has everything to do with track design and clipless pedals.
That track is pretty harcore for 20 yrs ago look how squirrly some of those cats got kinnda reminds me of Howell nj track
holy shit talk about intense!
thats is racing. I miss that type of racing. the pro races today are the most boring thing to watch, its follow the leader. The post on this video about the track being lame is just plain stupid
thats is racing. I miss that type of racing. the pro races today are the most boring thing to watch, its follow the leader. The first post on this video is just plain stupid
That restart rule was BS!! If u wreck u wreck !
firsties!!!!!
THEY ARE SO SLOW AND UNCOORDINATED COMPARED TO TODAYS PROS!!!! I'VE RACED FROM 1979 TO 2016!!!