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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

Комментарии • 107

  • @crazyboy2006cashier
    @crazyboy2006cashier 10 лет назад +7

    long time viewer, first time poster. F301 is notorious at blewing. I worked in a school and repaired 12 of these (all with same issue)

  • @MrMikeHawkey
    @MrMikeHawkey 9 лет назад +14

    Thanks for this video. I was upset recently when I put batteries in my NC100 and tried to turn it on, only to find it didn't. I watched your video to get some ideas, and would you believe that my problem was also the fuse. It must decay over time, as it was working when I put it away a couple of years ago. Thanks again.

  • @NaokisRC
    @NaokisRC 11 лет назад

    I like how you are so enthusiastic about trying to find a difficult fault and find it disappointing it's such a simple one. Granted most faults usually are simple but still love it. Tempted to send one of my broken pieces of electronics for you to mess about with but I hope it wouldn't take months for it to arrive!

  • @ForViewingOnly
    @ForViewingOnly 12 лет назад +1

    Hi Dave, thanks for this video. I know you have to cater for everybody but I would definitely appreciate more videos on fault-finding retro computers (using a scope to find problems with old CPUs and logic chips, etc.). Thanks.

  • @enigmaticengineer
    @enigmaticengineer 12 лет назад

    Love the old school computing, sub 20mhz mostly, vids you do. Commenting at 40 seconds into the video, I know I'll enjoy it. If you ever want something 'Tandy - Radio Shack' to play with, let me know and we'll work something out. Thanks for the fun and all around awesome videos. Now I can rewind the vid and watch what I missed lol.

  • @enigmaticengineer
    @enigmaticengineer 12 лет назад

    Very cool. I have CoCo 2's and 3's, hacked and factory stock...I collect and enjoy them...if you ever have a particular want when it comes to Old School computing, I scoop up everything I find here in the US without discrimination and I'm not looking for profit, just keeping the legacy stuff running well. Thanks again for the excellent videos.

  • @deelkar
    @deelkar 12 лет назад +1

    I find it more amazing that they became 3 orders of magnitude faster while only using about one magnitude more power

  • @bencollins5937
    @bencollins5937 2 года назад

    I think it’s common for these to have blown fuses because the DC power supply socket has the positive on the outside. People find a wall DC plug that fits, but as most of them are negative on the outside, they blow the fuse.

  • @msjaxp
    @msjaxp 12 лет назад

    Hi Dave,
    Your videos are fascinating, but in my opinion, most of viewers, including me :) are hoping to give us some additional lectures about making and design embedded and electronic circuits, you may have, like for example how to make complex FPGA systems or how to make a double sided circuit at home, ... etc
    Anything you may have in your huge knowledge will be very useful to us, even it was some ridiculous for you.
    And I assure the number of viewers will be extremely high.

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  12 лет назад

    That used to be the case, but now this blog is my day job.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem 12 лет назад +1

    I used one of those at school because my handwriting was so slow I couldn't keep up with everyone else. I still remember programming it to play pong so while they thought I was working I was just goofing off!

  • @jeromequelin
    @jeromequelin 12 лет назад

    I love the strategically placed tantalizing µSupply schematics cameos at around 10:00 and 10:54 ;-)

  • @whiskeyify
    @whiskeyify 12 лет назад

    good video..I especially liked the part where you viewed some of the signals with the ocilloscope.

  • @andygozzo72
    @andygozzo72 8 лет назад +2

    useful thing to note, if you have one of these that doesnt power up, check and if necessary replace the fuse (wickmann type, 0.5amp, if i remember correctly..?
    ) that some versions of these use(different from the one in the video) as these seem to fail due to age, seem to form some sort of 'fungus' in/on them which rots the internal wire...maybe the version using smd fuse has similar problem!

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 лет назад +1

      Fuses just fail the same way as a lightbulb, except much slower - almost every fuse will die in normal use eventually, taking maybe 50 years on average in such use, but there will be some outliers which die early. They consist of thin wire, where molecule scale defects can change with time and cause a small spot which heats up disproportionately, which will eventually be where it burns through.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 лет назад

      Waaait a second, the only warm thing on this whole board is the power regulator, and it sits where? 1cm away from the fuse! Well there's your problem. It helps the fuse melt on its own.

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 8 лет назад

      The regulator section barely gets warm..

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 8 лет назад

      Fuses shouldnt just fail with age if the operating current is way below its fusing value...surge currents certainly can cause hotspots and intermittent failure

    • @jadielrhys3156
      @jadielrhys3156 3 года назад

      i realize Im pretty off topic but do anybody know a good place to stream newly released movies online?

  • @GothAlice
    @GothAlice Год назад

    Crikey. This blows me way, way back to the NTS DreamWriter, a device often used in special education. A friend of mine worked for them up to the point where they began producing Windows CE devices. Crikey, mate! I had almost entirely forgotten about "slabtops"!

  • @camelCased
    @camelCased 9 лет назад +6

    "Sagan was here."

  • @msjaxp
    @msjaxp 12 лет назад

    Okay Dave, thanks for replay :)
    I hope to see more videos from you soon

  • @frac
    @frac 12 лет назад

    You have a MakerBot. A missing battery cover seems like a perfect application...

  • @ales_xy
    @ales_xy 12 лет назад +2

    6:35 - 6:40 C340 soldered only by one end? (reference is in the block on the left of the ROM chip)

  • @JHarding97
    @JHarding97 12 лет назад

    Although many devices today can consume much more energy than before, devices have become much more efficient. Back in the 90's there were computers that used 65W, just as your notebook, but they could only calculate far less in a certain amount of time. And besides that, this is an energy efficient portable device from the 90s, that as you stated uses about two watts... which is what an iPhone consumes today.

  • @oldevil
    @oldevil 12 лет назад

    wish u made a teardown of an amiga computer, they were way ahead since 1985 with the amiga 500

  • @raszelast
    @raszelast 12 лет назад

    6v @ .3A = 1.8W
    Those things really didn't take much to run at all. Its amazing how laptops have gone from that to things like the 65W notebook i'm watching this video on. I know today's computers do a whole lot more, but its just mind-boggling to look at raw differences like that.

  • @xXTeslovXx
    @xXTeslovXx 11 лет назад

    Hi, I have a similiar Notepad from Horten it has the same Layout and such but it is not black its just the old PC Gray. The Model is SysLine Pad 1000.
    The whole Notepad looks just like that Amstrad Notepad.

  • @uzimonkey
    @uzimonkey 12 лет назад +1

    Someone probably tried to plug the wrong adapter into it, that's the only reason I can think that the fuse would blow without anything else being wrong with it.

  • @DavidKornrumpfII
    @DavidKornrumpfII 12 лет назад

    interesting to see these old machine come back from the dead , is there a market for these as collectables ?

  • @beltagymohamed
    @beltagymohamed 10 лет назад

    Thanks from Switzerland :)

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  12 лет назад

    Thanks for the offer, but I have a hack in store for the NC100...

  • @drcobol2000
    @drcobol2000 9 лет назад

    One of Lord Sugar's progeny lives on!

  • @Optimus6128
    @Optimus6128 10 лет назад

    Haha, I recently bought this baby. Now it's cool to see how it looks from inside :)

  • @markboldyrev8321
    @markboldyrev8321 8 лет назад +1

    Certainly a good idea to connect the power supply parallel to the non-rechargeable batteries!

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 7 лет назад +1

      it doesnt, it connects to the normally closed switch contact of the dc socket, so disconnects when an external supply is fitted, bridge it with a resistor and you can use rechargeables which charge when externally powered...

  • @hughthemusicalengineer4365
    @hughthemusicalengineer4365 4 года назад

    Great video. I need information on the flexi cable between the main board and the display. I took mine out a while ago because it was faulty, and can't find it now. Is it a 14 way or double sided 28 way (14 on each side). Looking for a suitable replacement. Cheers. I have an as new Z88 as well, so interesting stuff.

  • @BalticLab
    @BalticLab 12 лет назад

    Quote: "And I assure the number of viewers will be extremely high." -> :O Have you looked at the number of his subscribers? I personally am glad that he does NOT show how to make double sided PCBs at home and such. There are plenty of videos of that around already, no need to re-invent the wheel. However, I agree that we didn't get many lectures / tutorials recently and I'd like to see that change as well.

  • @ExStaticBass
    @ExStaticBass 12 лет назад

    This was rather entertaining. Thanks for the fun...

  • @laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
    @laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 5 лет назад

    Amstrad computers had the different colour keys too, I think the enter key was green

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree 12 лет назад +1

    Perhaps they put the Z80 just to be able to run the BBC Basic ... could be ? ... like the C128 running a Z80 appart from the MOS6502, just for the CP/M compatibility .....

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 лет назад

      Z80 is probably the application processor. There is likely no other processor on the system, as Z80 is power efficient, so the only thing you would gain by including a second processor is more leakage current, a bad idea in a battery powered handheld system.
      The upgraded model by Nakajima, the ES210, contains a NEC V20 CPU - a much more complex and inherently more expensive device. Makes no sense to upgrade it if it was just there for compatibility's sake. And by the way, porting from z80 to Intel 8086 or NEC V20 is easy enough, little total change should be necessary, and you can do it in a machine language monitor easily enough, or even by directly manipulating the bytes in a binary/hex editor, which is a bit crazy, but can be done if you have to.
      The huge custom device in the middle probably just routes the signals, does address translation and performs the display refresh, as well as does simple clock switching. There's likely little more logic in there than in the spectrum ULA, with big footprint being merely due to huge number of connections. Maintaining only minimal logic in there is a good idea, because it runs a pretty high clock speed. The z80 actually constantly runs the memory bus, and it has no ready signal from memory, the only way you can prevent it from crashing if you can't deliver it the RAM contents immediately is to halt its clock. So that's what ULA does, it halts the clock while it's doing for example video refresh or other activities that keep RAM busy. A minor modification to that would be to include a register which would allow to stop the clock programmatically, and the clock would automatically be restarted if there's an interrupt, since the custom logic IC is also the interrupt source and RTC host. By the way, that clock burst when running word processor, obviously that software is running on Z80 too.

  • @greekcommando9054
    @greekcommando9054 5 лет назад

    the SMT Cap next to R388 is also not soldered to the pad. looks to me as if the wave process sucked the cap to one side not touching the second pad.

  • @MrBunt
    @MrBunt 7 лет назад

    I just picked up one last weekend on a flea market. And guess what ... F301 is dead as well. Seems to be the most common error for that thing.

  • @ElectronicTonic156
    @ElectronicTonic156 12 лет назад

    It takes a true engineer to say that it's good when something doesn't work!

  • @GRAYgauss
    @GRAYgauss 12 лет назад

    Considering how little there is in one of those compared to what is in my laptop, I'd argue they're much less energy efficient. My laptop only draws 14 watts while browsing and 40W at load.

  • @enigmaticengineer
    @enigmaticengineer 12 лет назад

    Oh...and BTW..I'll trade you a Tandy TRS-80 Color Computer 2 for that Amstrad NC100 put back together and functioning... :) Might make for a cool Tear Down Tuesday. Thx again for the fun videos.

  • @Oshiba88
    @Oshiba88 12 лет назад

    4:55 whats the difference between a crystal and a resonator? As far as I know with a resonator you don't neet filter caps.

  • @edude03
    @edude03 12 лет назад

    They had surface mount in 1992? I'm actually surprised, for some reason I thought it was more recent than that.

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree 12 лет назад

    Thanks

  • @ib9rt
    @ib9rt 12 лет назад

    Except the BBC Micro actually used a 6502...so this version of BBC Basic must have been ported to the Z80 for these computers?

  • @aptsys
    @aptsys 12 лет назад

    When are you finishing the power supply project??

  • @lunardust201
    @lunardust201 9 лет назад

    Wow only from 87 to 92, and they already started using SMD, I didnt know SMD was being used already by then!

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 8 лет назад

      I have seen smd stuff earlier than these..

  • @kevinkml
    @kevinkml 7 лет назад

    Loved this vid was cheekily wondering if you thought it possible to upgrade the memory on one of these without buying a pcmcia memory card, nice challenge maybe?

  • @SkipjackUK
    @SkipjackUK 6 лет назад

    Amstrad had these made by Nakajima of Japan. all their other stuff was made in Scotland.

  • @unaliveeveryonenow
    @unaliveeveryonenow 12 лет назад

    It doesn't mean it was not possible to make a laptop back then which would just gobble power. It's just what you get when you use stock batteries.

  • @PeregrineBF
    @PeregrineBF 12 лет назад

    This is more comparable to a graphing calculator than it is to a modern laptop. I suspect the graphing calculators win for total battery life, my TI-89 seems to draw between 5 and 80 mA.

  • @ChrisMahoney
    @ChrisMahoney 11 лет назад

    what's with this incredible resolution in the closeup vid? I need whatever is doing that. Oh, and thanks :)

  • @raszelast
    @raszelast 12 лет назад

    Why is it that a computer that only uses up to 60mA needs a power adapter that can go up to 300 mA? Or is that just a standard adapter that the company would just happen to have an excess supply of?

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 11 лет назад

    interesting video this, does this notebook have a built in speaker?

  • @bloomtom
    @bloomtom 12 лет назад

    A lot of laptops will use nearly two watts when off and plugged in.

  • @MichaelJE2
    @MichaelJE2 12 лет назад

    I was 2 when this was made! :D

  • @etofigh
    @etofigh 12 лет назад

    There is an unsoldered capacitor near R388

  • @NormMonkey
    @NormMonkey 12 лет назад

    I bet F301 blew because someone stuck the wrong DC power supply on it, or maybe they used one of those universal ones with the 1.5, 3, 4.5, 6, 9, 12V selector switch, polarity changer and the four-way power jack. Ah, memories.

  • @deltacourps
    @deltacourps 9 лет назад

    Might just be the camera angle, but seems like (R388) isn't soldered on correctly, pad isn't connected.

    • @brainndamage
      @brainndamage 7 лет назад

      Miguel Garcia saw that as well, 6:36 C340

  • @antonyquigley5219
    @antonyquigley5219 7 лет назад

    why would you need so many resistors and sots all bunched together like that? the 101 and 100s? what do they do, what do you mean by "Passive"

    • @Tim_3100
      @Tim_3100 5 лет назад

      Likely to handle power load and passive components are components that cannot control electrical flow without the help of an active compoment like a transistor.

  • @WayneJohnsonZastil
    @WayneJohnsonZastil 12 лет назад

    I guess top faults are Fuse, Cap and then what? Transistor?

  • @cali-co6428
    @cali-co6428 7 лет назад

    Hey, i know this is old video, but i just found an old nc100 and the display is so faint =(
    Anyone knows a solution i can try? already checked the capacitors and they are all seems fine

  • @aptsys
    @aptsys 12 лет назад

    A resonator is made from a piezoelectric ceramic and less accurate than a quartz crystal.

  • @glenwoofit
    @glenwoofit 12 лет назад

    I wish all faults were that easy!

  • @g6qwerty
    @g6qwerty 12 лет назад

    I wonder if you can OC that cpu? or would it die?

  • @Pieh0
    @Pieh0 12 лет назад

    Grr, I used one of these while i was in school, and got blamed when the backup battery decided to die and lose everyones stuff.
    BURN IT!

  • @therealjammit
    @therealjammit 12 лет назад

    Run the keyboard through a dishwasher, set to cold water, no heat dry, and no detergent. Let the keyboard air dry for a few days.

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin 10 лет назад

    I never understood why a board needs so many little resisters, it makes the board kinda big.

  • @Whatsthegeek
    @Whatsthegeek 8 лет назад

    LOL, i'm on the cpc wiki forum

  • @nrdesign1991
    @nrdesign1991 12 лет назад

    they're still around

  • @asdcdweadasd
    @asdcdweadasd 11 лет назад

    12:20 - 45mA D:
    2.7 W

  • @konsul2006
    @konsul2006 12 лет назад

    Do these have the y2k-bug? :)

  • @Burningmace
    @Burningmace 11 лет назад

    First thing I'd have done with it is swap out the resonator for an overclock ;)

  • @tenzinjamtsho7500
    @tenzinjamtsho7500 10 лет назад

    Hi I have an Acer Aspire 4752. As i press the power button it makes 4 successive clunking sounds followed by one long clunking sound..
    The problem started, my frientd took the laptop, as per him, he watche the movies and inserted old DVD. after insertion of few DVDs the pc freezed. so he directly pressed the power button directly.
    Here's what happened. When I power on the laptop, the boot screen shows up with logo(stuks there) and shows the line press to enter the setup, with the progress bar below, moves up to 75%. When I press F2 or F12, is says waiting.... But the progress bar doesn't go 100%. I tried waiting up to about 30 minutes but there's no luck, the system won't let mo go to setup bios or boot menu. I tried removing the hard disk ang booting it but the same problem occurs.
    i tried to flash the drive as per some tutorial in youtube but i didn't know which file to rename as the file i downloaded was different from what they showed in videos.
    Can you suggest me anything I can do?
    By the way here is my system specs:
    Intel Corei3-235M
    Intel HD graphics3000
    2 GB DDR3 memory
    500GB HDD.
    DVD drive.
    Thank you for helping me ou

    • @MrEinstain
      @MrEinstain 9 лет назад +6

      this isn't really the place to ask this stuff, but try removing the optical drive (it's usually held in place by a recessed screw and then it slides right out, look it up for your particular model) and try rebooting.
      If you hear the same clunking sound without the optical drive your hard disk might be broken and you need a replacement one with a new operating system.

  • @StabilizeStudios
    @StabilizeStudios 12 лет назад

    Lets Assume.... Up in here, up in here. I'm gonna assume its up in here, up in here..

  •  11 лет назад

    My uses 200W while gaming.

  • @GiddeonFox
    @GiddeonFox 11 лет назад

    1mA=.001A so .045A * 6V = 0.27W

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree 12 лет назад

    Ahhh ok, Thanks

  • @juk-hw5lv
    @juk-hw5lv 7 лет назад

    Nakajima? Good God i nver expected a company which manufactured warplanes in ww2 to produce electronics!

  • @aptsys
    @aptsys 12 лет назад

    1.8W is a lot in comparison though, considering today's laptops are a lot more than 36 times more powerful...

  • @Labruskie
    @Labruskie 12 лет назад

    "Boring as bat poo..."? Guano is considered a commodity in some countries...

  • @rogertopful
    @rogertopful 9 лет назад

    I almost had one of these. I found it in my teacher's room at the end of school and was told I could keep it. But it was put in with the trash by another student because the case was dirty and he thought it was trash(this kid was stupid) and it was thrown out. I went back at the end of the day to get it and it was gone. Sucks for me.

  • @ejap2010
    @ejap2010 6 лет назад

    Hola me paso lo mismo de cuenta es la resistencia que le pones , no entendo mucho de ingles, gracias!!!

    • @Ale.K7
      @Ale.K7 6 лет назад

      Subastas Compras Es un fusible, pero no dijo el valor. En los comentarios alguien dice que "cree" que es de 0.5A (500mA). ¡Saludos!
      (Editado) Perdón, volví a ver el video y sí dice de qué valor cuando muestra el original, está impreso en la placa: 0.8A (800mA). ¡Saludos!

    • @ejap2010
      @ejap2010 6 лет назад

      gracias por el dato

  • @Gamah1991
    @Gamah1991 11 лет назад

    36 times as much power consumption
    well over a million times as much data throughput.

  • @_lun4r_
    @_lun4r_ 7 лет назад

    Your videos made me subscribe to you, AT F#CKING SCHOOL

  • @Lethaltail
    @Lethaltail 11 лет назад

    Synthematix It's got a little buzzer in it. Not much.

  • @asdcdweadasd
    @asdcdweadasd 11 лет назад

    hollyfuck you are so wrong D:
    I like his voice :P

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 11 лет назад

    AlanMichaelSugarTRADing

  • @DavidB445
    @DavidB445 11 лет назад +1

    Like I said I love the videos and watch every video posted but at certain points in his videos where his voice pitch goes up and up. Its a little irritating. No disrespect meant besides the 'holyfuck' but then I'm Scottish.. swearing comes naturally unfortunately..

  • @aptsys
    @aptsys 12 лет назад

    Please don't