Sweden has kept fighters in very high QRF readiness since the 50s. We don't usually broadcast or comment on the QRFs activities. Swedish military doctrine generally plays their cards closer to their chests than NATO does. This intercept is very much a business as usual kind of a thing.
Indeed, my Swedish brother. In the US/Canada/much of "old NATO" in Europe (before ca 2000), intercepts are kind of a novelty while we (Norway) and you Swedes and Finnish friends run around one QRA a week these days (at an all-time low because of Russia spending their money elsewhere) and during the Cold War, it was pretty much a daily routine in the North Atlantic for us and in the Baltic for you two. It never was a news item.
For example, during the cold war or at least party of it, there were fighters ready for take of, with pilots strapped in their planes, 24/7/365. There were often planes sent out just when Soviet planes were detected over the Baltic Sea and not necessary that close to Swedish air space. There were a calmer period after the fall of the Soviet Union but the past few years there's been several interceptions.
@@Aquascape_DreamingNo we don't most people here speak as good English as anyone that has it as their second language. I speak Swedish. Norwegian. English German French Spanish and a bit of Indonesian. Most swedes speak the our four languages. How many do you speak? 😅
In Swedish the name is pronounced greepen phonetically, which translates to Griffin. However, the name which SAAB and others use when referring to the plane in English is GrIp-en, like Mover did in the video. Of course, most Swede's don't call it Greepen or Grip-en. We mostly call is JAS, pronounced YAAS phonetically, short for Jakt, Attack, Spaning, which translates to hunt, attack and scouting, but which really refers to it's multi-role capabilities as a fighter, cas and recon plane.
And the reason for that I guess it that it was a big thing back in the 80's that the new fighter would only come in one version, compared to the AJ, JA, S, etc versions of Viggen.
Correction: Uninformed journalists often call "Gripen", the technically-correct-but-imprecise, JAS. Informed people will call it by the actual name (Gripen) or model "JAS 39".
As for Gripen looks, I think the most striking thing is how sleek it is. If you look at it next to any other fighter so does it look a lot slimmer. This comes from having to cut down air resistance to get the required performance out of the plane.
Your pronunciation is fine, that's how it's said in English. The Swedish pronunciation is more "greepen" but as you said, not even SAAB personell pronounce it like that in English.
@yt45204 Weird example because cities are pronounced differently in different languages, in many languages they are even completely different names. For example, "Stockholm" in Spanish is "Estocólmo", Helsinki in Swedish is "Helsingfors". Additionally, the Gripen is actually only called Gripen (Pronounced Greepen) in Swedish, in English it is called the "Griffin", the English word for "Gripen", the mythical creature.
I saw the thing once during an air show. When it flies at a low speed it looks like a flying saucer, like something extraterrestrial. There is no one other jet that makes such insane impression.
It's finally nice to see a Gripen intercepting aircraft. It's the first time I've seen a recent interception. Then again, I haven't paid much attention to military stuff compared to most people here.
You can tell the Swedes designed the Gripen - it's just...sorted. It's absolutely glorious Scandi minimalist, modernist design. It's just so...sorted. Neat, compact. It gives you the impression is has everything you need and nothing you don't. Of the Eurocanards, I'd say the Typhoon is the moderns serious and stern (what?! The Germans and Brits were involved?), the Gripen is the neatest, and the Rafale is the sexiest (c'mon - those cheekbones are pure Parisian supermodel).
As a Swede I'm biased to JAS 39 (the D and F not so much, looks weird but I guess most single seaters trainers converted to dualseat does that:-) ofc, but Rafale is good looking... really beautiful... The original F-16 was also a looker... Eurofighter not so much... it's a great airplane, awesome... but not as good looking... Strangely Soviet made a couple of lookers also... SU-27 ranks high on that scale... F-18 not so much (awesome airplane again, but not super beautiful)... F-15 is sort of a midrange in the beautiful scale for me... it looks like a beast... and it's not ugly at all... but not supermodel... Stealth designs... B1 is looking good I think, F-22 also I guess... F-35 is sort of the F-15 (for me) it's just a beast...
Gonky is right. On the Navy report card I'm sure it says "Does not play well with others." I think that's the main reason why Navy fighters were pretty much left out of the combined allied effort in Desert Storm.
0:48 Well, I speak Norwegian, not Swedish. It sounds like you actually got the sounds of the letters right, unlike most anglophones, so that's good. If I where to comment on anything I guess it would be the pacing. Single letters indivate longer sounds for us in the Scandinavian languages then double letters. That said, I wouldn't personally complain, I think that you're doing pretty good.
Your first Gripen when you said it differently was how you say it in Swedish. Honestly the correct name in english would be Griffin. As a Swede i hereby hand out two free joke about SAAB aircraft cards.
@@rynopot The translation of "en grip" or "den gripen" is "a griffin" or "that griffin" so it is more correct to say that than mispronouncing the name. However, just like Swede's Swedify English words and names. English can just Englify Swedish words and names.
I'm from South Africa. I respect native languages. FOR ME it is wrong to Englishfy the word, when it is spelled with a P in the middle. I never called the Lightning a Weerlig. Please do the same. You still call it a Sukhoi and a Mig. Gripen is my favourite jet. Please pronounce it in Swedish? 💕
I can only confirm that this is just a routine thing in Sweden and has almost always been since the (first?) cold war started. During the height of the cold war, QRA pilots even waited seated in their airplanes. I don't know whether that's still the case today. These pictures I think are more a statement than how it is really done. Gripen is always flown two by two, and I don't think there would be mixed "rotes" in real life. Correct me if I am wrong ...
Hi Mover. Also on the Gripen, watch a short video (11.25 minutes) where South African Pilot Blokkies Joubert puts the Gripen through its paces. He was in Sweden where they had tested the Gripen. Enjoy.
Good reporting and commentary. I recall reading that many years ago, a USAF SR-71 was on a mission along the Soviet coast in the Baltic when an engine failed, reducing its speed and altitude. Soviet MiGs tried to intercept it but two Swedish fighters in the area got there first and the MiGs turned away. I cannot find the article to verify the details, even whether it happened before or after the fall of the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, if true, the story shows a level of cooperation going way back.
It's true, it got classified at the time, but when it got declassified about a decade ago, the Swedish J/A37 Viggen pilots were invited to Washington DC and recived medals for their assistance from President Obama.
FYI, Sweden, Finland, and Ukraine had no plans to join NATO before Russia began its aggression against Ukraine, moreover Ukraine had the explicit neutral status in its Constitution before 2014. . Russia initially attacked Ukraine in 2014 using its army without a coat of arms and country insignias. Moreover, Russian DoD GRU-sponsored and FSB-sponsored mercenaries played significant roles at this time. In 2022, Moscow converted its aggression into a full-scale invasion. From 2014 until now, Russia has been invaded Ukraine without a formal war declaration.
If the truth was really that simple, the West would already have declared war on Russia and been done with it. Do tell... what happened in 2014 that Russia might have been reacting to... something something Maidan. Something something, Victoria Nuland and a coup... Not saying Russia isn't pursuing its own interests, but the US VERY MUCH shares a major part of the blame for the current conflict.
You are half corect in Gripen pronuciarion. You are right in that the swedish "i" sound is closer to the english "e". But it supose be a slow pronuciation. If it was written in english it would probobly be something like Greep'n
@@CWLemoine well.. sort of. The issue is when you are swedish and speak english the word pronunication is somewhat collored. Swedish and engish is actually fairly simular.
Gripen is the Swedish word for Griffin. JAS is J is Jakt = Hunt (probably fighter in avionics really but Hunt is verbatim), A = Attack (same word), S is Spaning = Recon/Surveillance. So it would be HAR or HAS 39 Griffin or possibly FAR or FAS 39 Griffin if translated Hunter, attacker, reconnaissance / surveillance 39 Griffin Fighter, Attacker, reconnaissance / surveillance 39 Griffin FAR 39 Griffin is the most correct translation in avionics really
@yt45204Yes, Personal Identification Number number is superfluous. But Personal Identification Number code isn't as bad. Also since social security number in Sweden is Personnummer (Person Number) it could easily be confused with the full meaning of PIN.
Hmm didn't Czech gripens intercept Ivan before? They've been doing NATO patrols for some time. Thought i've read something about that being a czech myself xD
Yes, both Czech and Hungary have participated in Baltic air policing with Gripens multiple times. So not first Gripen NATO intercept or first Swedish Gripen intercept but first Swedish Gripen NATO intercept.
Trying to pronounce Gripen reminds me of the TV show Brooklyn Nine-nine's reoccurring bit of trying to pronounce Boyle's kid's name Nikolaj. 😊 "Nikolaj?" "Nikolaj!" "Nikolaj?" "Nikolaj!"
As a Swede, nothing wrong with that pronunciation imo. You may also call it the Griffin/Griffon/Gryphon I suppose because that would be the direct translation.
I'm curious as to whether Sweden's Gripen's are currently fielding the AMRAAM or the Meteor in it's interception role (if carrying any ARH missiles), as IIRC it can carry both. Also curious if they're deploying these Gripens from roadways for more practice for actual combat, or if these are being sent from standard air bases.
Our QRA usually only carry guns up until now, not sure if it's changing now that we are a part of NATO. I wouldn't be surprised since what I've seen, NATO QRA usually goes up "fully loaded" :D
AMRAAM are most likely due to the air policing climate right. Meteor is the longer-range alternative more suited for a war-like situation. But as for IR missiles, it will be IRIS-T in any situation.
Both can be used by the latest Meteor is what is currently deployed I believe. And they have both airbases (not many, under a dozen) and the hidden ones, an entire network of them. So taking out an airbase for the Russians won't do jack shit
I do not know the Swedish pronounciation, but we have Gripens in our air force and you are saying it the same way as everyone in here: army officials, pilots, even journalists.
Anyone that belittles pronunciation is silly, and its fine to say Gripen in whatever way, think of it as the english word "keeping" Its the same stressing and length of the first vowel. Keeping and Gripen. and for anyone its the swedish word for (the) Griffon. Love your videos C.W!
You can fly latest Gripen E in a simulator here in Sweden, at the flight museum. The Swedish airforce have always done this kind of identification missions also before NATO.😂
I don't know if Hungary should even be mentioned in anything related to Swedens NATO accession... it was held up for how many months? For... reasons? (Russia?)
Swedish airforce is, afaik, the only airforce to do a successful intercept of SR-71. And that was with our old jets (Viggen)😀 Just saying. Nice to be part of the NATO-family.
You have three options; - Gripen pronounced englishified - Gripen pronounced more Swedish, something like “Gr-ee-pen” (google translate etc can pronounce if correctly). So a pretty sharp ee sound - Griffin, actually translating the name to English. Probably not what the marketing guys want you to do, it’s some IKEA branding strategy to let foreigners just f’ing deal with Swedish for no sane reason. Anyway love for our metal is much appreciated, and having foreigners ponders our Swedish is like some sort of perverted fun. We’ll always imply there is something slightly off with your pronunciation even if it’s F’ing perfect. Thanks for covering this bird!
Google translate are a product from an American company and have its own bias. With a e-sound it turns into sound like grepen and that is the tool farmers use that look like a fork and they shovel dung with. It is an I-sound, gri-pen, it is like you should take the first part of Gri(zzly) and end with the pen, the writing tool. Won’t be perfect from a Swedish stand but closer. Swedish is not English and we put sounds different in the oral cavity.
Is it also super useful that the intercepts were coming from both sides of the Baltic Sea? As in Sweden from North side and Germany / Belgium from South.
In swedish it sounds like "greep-en", and there is no "the" since Swedish don't use prefix articles in that way (instead it's the "-en" suffix that is the definite article) The base word is "Grip" wich means griffon (the legendary beast) But the english pronouciation is so established at this point so you can say it like that if you want.
Yeah, we in Sweden pronounce our "i" like you would pronounce "ee". Or just call it The Griffon (or some spell it Griffin) as that would be the English translation of the Swedish word Gripen.
RE: „It’s the allies you want to have” Really great to see this teamwork happening “in daily business”; not just during exercises like recent Air Defender 2023. Typhoon, Viper & Gripen. Add Lightning, Mirage & Super-Hornet, possibly even Rafale also out & up there. Still some Eagles around, too. Like you said, “symbolic” to certain amount. But also showing & proving capability of closely working together. There’s nice `teaser´ picture of video when 2 B1-B Lancers landed on Swedish AFB recently - very impressive seeing the dimensions of fighter birds compared to this huge bomber (starting 5min37s at the end of the video there): ruclips.net/video/UgNplMJi-Ls/видео.html Btw.: Gonky, slightly amused about that sequence in your CV “…, A320, dirt bike racer, …” When reading, it always reminds me of this remarkable emergency landing of Ural Airlines in 2023 on (grain-) field few months ago (but harvesting has already been done before).
You could just say "Griffin" if you wanted to. Gripen is the swedish word for (the) Griffin. Just like a previous Swedish aircraft were named "Draken" aka "The Dragon"
Gripen very capable small fighter designed to kill MIG's :) I still don't understand why my country chose the Rafale F3R over the Grippen deal for a small country like Croatia I think the Gripen would be more then capable for all domestic and NATO related tasks and possible cheaper to operate and maintain.
C3 is the biggest challenge to integrate multinational military operations. Due to complexities of international relations, adversaries of one nation may be trading partners for another. Technology and methods transfer of a military nature can be an unwanted result. My interactions and work indicate that the Swedes are a good ally.
It's a long i in Gripen, not a short one, hence the use of only one p after the i in Gripen..🧐😉🤪 & about the canards, Gripen uses close-coupled canards, as does the Rafale. This configuration increases lift..
@@CWLemoine We dont care how you pronounce it, we understand what you mean, Im very supprised to hear about people having negative comments about it, only heard suggestions of how to say it, not critic about how you say it. Keep up with the good videos!
@@CWLemoine Swedes pronounce it differently when they talk swedish compared to when they talk english. I think people is just pointing out that its pronounced slightly different in swedish which is irrelevant when you talk english. for example: ruclips.net/video/6KV2OpebHAw/видео.htmlsi=FOcEv4bFfgJRXT_D&t=7 , compared to: ruclips.net/video/pZSsIx_7uio/видео.htmlsi=NhrNAnTcvyEC7bn5
As a Swede, I wouldn't be mad if you called it "The Griffin", since that's what Gripen means ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I mean, if you aren't French you probably can't pronounce "D'assault Mirage" correctly or half of their air assets. Butchering pronounciations is part of a globalized world and languages in general.
People who say Gree-pen are imposing a .... exaggerated , Swedish accent on the name. I love the typhoon but for the record ... The Gripen is more elegant. I would feel pride at being destroyed by such a beautiful air-craft.
We welcome allies that pull their own weight. …consistently, and not just when things get hot. Militaries don’t rebuild in 12 months. It’s more like 12 years.
I wanted to join NATO because of solidarity with especially the Baltic States who are in obvious crosshairs by Putin. If there would be a war with us involved it would be in a larger context anyways. Except for a Crimea kind of grab of Gotland. More of a strategic place than actual conquest. Having lived with the cold war where the whole of society was in a kind of extreme readiness. Russia of today doesn't scare as much.
Because to the Swedish Airforce, the only change was a bit of ink on a paper that officialised a colaboration that started in the 1960ies and has grown ever closer since. It was about as eventful as a courthouse marriage when the couple have been living as if married for over half their lives and only tied the knot to make sure the mean spirited next of kin on either side can't kick a surviving partner out of their home if either one pass away before the other.
I'd have preferred Sweden & Finland stayed neutral, but the whole "did-NATO-expansion-actually-cause-Russian-aggression" question is for other channels. Even if Sweden remained neutral, there's not reason that NATO nations would need to shy away from these Gripen's. They seem to have built a very capable no-nonsense fighter that can keeps a lot of real-world usage issues in mind. What I want to know is: Do they assemble it with an Allen key ? 😉
Sweden left their neutrality in 1992 when they rewrote their doctrine, they became non aligned and in 1994 they joined NATO's PFP program. After having enough of Russian BS they finally made the right move and became full members of NATO. Regarding the Gripen, it took a real war for the rest of the world to understand that Gripen and other Swedish military products aren't too bad.
Sweden has kept fighters in very high QRF readiness since the 50s. We don't usually broadcast or comment on the QRFs activities. Swedish military doctrine generally plays their cards closer to their chests than NATO does.
This intercept is very much a business as usual kind of a thing.
Indeed, my Swedish brother. In the US/Canada/much of "old NATO" in Europe (before ca 2000), intercepts are kind of a novelty while we (Norway) and you Swedes and Finnish friends run around one QRA a week these days (at an all-time low because of Russia spending their money elsewhere) and during the Cold War, it was pretty much a daily routine in the North Atlantic for us and in the Baltic for you two. It never was a news item.
This is just business as usual, my thoughts too. One could argue this is more about flashing the new team shirt a bit. 😊
Now more of us around the world are observant of and thankful for Sweden’s experience and capability.
For example, during the cold war or at least party of it, there were fighters ready for take of, with pilots strapped in their planes, 24/7/365. There were often planes sent out just when Soviet planes were detected over the Baltic Sea and not necessary that close to Swedish air space. There were a calmer period after the fall of the Soviet Union but the past few years there's been several interceptions.
Not that ready QRA 2013 during "ryska påsken"🤪 but yeah that probably woke a few of those fuckers in the riksdag up a bit
Welcome to NATO Sweden! We’re happy to have you! 🇺🇸
Imagine being intercepted by a Gripen, F-16 and Eurofighter all at once pretty dope!!
Yeah, Ivan is pretty much screwed in that scenario.
It's really a bit too much for that Russian piece of junk😂
If you say it like Greepen then its a little more like we swedes say it. But hey, no worries :) edit: thanks for having us btw :) 🇸🇪🇺🇲
Gripen means Griffon tho :)
@@dan_halfsvearsure, but maybe the Swedes also say 'Greefon'. 😂
Or like finnish would say "Kreepp a ni"
@@Aquascape_DreamingNo we don't most people here speak as good English as anyone that has it as their second language. I speak Swedish. Norwegian. English German French Spanish and a bit of Indonesian. Most swedes speak the our four languages. How many do you speak? 😅
Greep-en or Grip-en is ok for me as long as it isn¨'t Graip-en en or Gripe-en
In English Gripen would be Griffin or Gryphon, a mythical beast, half eagle, half lion.
Yes if you translate it. But he asked for the pronunciation.
Grip is griffin. Gripen would be The Griffin.
Gree-pen would be the pronunciation.
In Swedish the name is pronounced greepen phonetically, which translates to Griffin. However, the name which SAAB and others use when referring to the plane in English is GrIp-en, like Mover did in the video. Of course, most Swede's don't call it Greepen or Grip-en. We mostly call is JAS, pronounced YAAS phonetically, short for Jakt, Attack, Spaning, which translates to hunt, attack and scouting, but which really refers to it's multi-role capabilities as a fighter, cas and recon plane.
And the reason for that I guess it that it was a big thing back in the 80's that the new fighter would only come in one version, compared to the AJ, JA, S, etc versions of Viggen.
Correction: Uninformed journalists often call "Gripen", the technically-correct-but-imprecise, JAS. Informed people will call it by the actual name (Gripen) or model "JAS 39".
As for Gripen looks, I think the most striking thing is how sleek it is. If you look at it next to any other fighter so does it look a lot slimmer.
This comes from having to cut down air resistance to get the required performance out of the plane.
Did you guys see the video of the B-1, B-52 and Gripens flying in formation over Stockholm? I thought it was pretty cool.
catfish vs. acid spitter dino is hilarious
LOL Didn't see it until he said it. :)
Your pronunciation is fine, that's how it's said in English. The Swedish pronunciation is more "greepen" but as you said, not even SAAB personell pronounce it like that in English.
Gripen is the swedish name, the english name is "Griffin".
@yt45204 Weird example because cities are pronounced differently in different languages, in many languages they are even completely different names. For example, "Stockholm" in Spanish is "Estocólmo", Helsinki in Swedish is "Helsingfors". Additionally, the Gripen is actually only called Gripen (Pronounced Greepen) in Swedish, in English it is called the "Griffin", the English word for "Gripen", the mythical creature.
@@wilmeroberg9794 "Griffin" is the English name for the mythological creature, not the English name for the fighter jet.
I saw the thing once during an air show. When it flies at a low speed it looks like a flying saucer, like something extraterrestrial. There is no one other jet that makes such insane impression.
It's finally nice to see a Gripen intercepting aircraft. It's the first time I've seen a recent interception.
Then again, I haven't paid much attention to military stuff compared to most people here.
They do it almost daily. And always has been doing that. You just dont hear about it in the media.
They do it almost daily. And always has been doing that. You just dont hear about it in the media so often
Czech Airforce has been participating in Baltic and Icelandic Air policing for years, intercepting Russian jets and transport turboprops on each turn.
You can tell the Swedes designed the Gripen - it's just...sorted. It's absolutely glorious Scandi minimalist, modernist design. It's just so...sorted. Neat, compact. It gives you the impression is has everything you need and nothing you don't. Of the Eurocanards, I'd say the Typhoon is the moderns serious and stern (what?! The Germans and Brits were involved?), the Gripen is the neatest, and the Rafale is the sexiest (c'mon - those cheekbones are pure Parisian supermodel).
Not bad analogy😅
You nailed it-love their cool Swedish thang!
As a Swede I'm biased to JAS 39 (the D and F not so much, looks weird but I guess most single seaters trainers converted to dualseat does that:-) ofc, but Rafale is good looking... really beautiful... The original F-16 was also a looker... Eurofighter not so much... it's a great airplane, awesome... but not as good looking... Strangely Soviet made a couple of lookers also... SU-27 ranks high on that scale...
F-18 not so much (awesome airplane again, but not super beautiful)... F-15 is sort of a midrange in the beautiful scale for me... it looks like a beast... and it's not ugly at all... but not supermodel...
Stealth designs... B1 is looking good I think, F-22 also I guess... F-35 is sort of the F-15 (for me) it's just a beast...
Gonky is right. On the Navy report card I'm sure it says "Does not play well with others." I think that's the main reason why Navy fighters were pretty much left out of the combined allied effort in Desert Storm.
0:48
Well, I speak Norwegian, not Swedish.
It sounds like you actually got the sounds of the letters right, unlike most anglophones, so that's good.
If I where to comment on anything I guess it would be the pacing.
Single letters indivate longer sounds for us in the Scandinavian languages then double letters.
That said, I wouldn't personally complain, I think that you're doing pretty good.
Belgian pilot is making the claw gesture which is used by all nato tiger squadrons 😊
Your first Gripen when you said it differently was how you say it in Swedish.
Honestly the correct name in english would be Griffin.
As a Swede i hereby hand out two free joke about SAAB aircraft cards.
Its not Griffin. Its a Swedish word. Our attack helicopter is Rooivalk, not Red Hawk
Its less wrong to say griffin then saying "grippen". Its not right in any language.
@@rynopot I would assume the Swede knows Swedish well enough xD (or, at least, better than the average non-Swede)
@@rynopot The translation of "en grip" or "den gripen" is "a griffin" or "that griffin" so it is more correct to say that than mispronouncing the name. However, just like Swede's Swedify English words and names. English can just Englify Swedish words and names.
I'm from South Africa. I respect native languages. FOR ME it is wrong to Englishfy the word, when it is spelled with a P in the middle.
I never called the Lightning a Weerlig. Please do the same. You still call it a Sukhoi and a Mig.
Gripen is my favourite jet.
Please pronounce it in Swedish? 💕
I can only confirm that this is just a routine thing in Sweden and has almost always been since the (first?) cold war started. During the height of the cold war, QRA pilots even waited seated in their airplanes. I don't know whether that's still the case today.
These pictures I think are more a statement than how it is really done. Gripen is always flown two by two, and I don't think there would be mixed "rotes" in real life. Correct me if I am wrong ...
That Tu-134 was probably an ELINT bird, just like that An-26.
Hi Mover. Also on the Gripen, watch a short video (11.25 minutes) where South African Pilot Blokkies Joubert puts the Gripen through its paces. He was in Sweden where they had tested the Gripen. Enjoy.
The typhoon's canards always made it look like a distinguished British gentleman to me
Nabarro type whiskers?
Good reporting and commentary. I recall reading that many years ago, a USAF SR-71 was on a mission along the Soviet coast in the Baltic when an engine failed, reducing its speed and altitude. Soviet MiGs tried to intercept it but two Swedish fighters in the area got there first and the MiGs turned away.
I cannot find the article to verify the details, even whether it happened before or after the fall of the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, if true, the story shows a level of cooperation going way back.
It's true, it got classified at the time, but when it got declassified about a decade ago, the Swedish J/A37 Viggen pilots were invited to Washington DC and recived medals for their assistance from President Obama.
FYI, Sweden, Finland, and Ukraine had no plans to join NATO before Russia began its aggression against Ukraine, moreover Ukraine had the explicit neutral status in its Constitution before 2014. . Russia initially attacked Ukraine in 2014 using its army without a coat of arms and country insignias. Moreover, Russian DoD GRU-sponsored and FSB-sponsored mercenaries played significant roles at this time. In 2022, Moscow converted its aggression into a full-scale invasion. From 2014 until now, Russia has been invaded Ukraine without a formal war declaration.
If the truth was really that simple, the West would already have declared war on Russia and been done with it. Do tell... what happened in 2014 that Russia might have been reacting to... something something Maidan. Something something, Victoria Nuland and a coup...
Not saying Russia isn't pursuing its own interests, but the US VERY MUCH shares a major part of the blame for the current conflict.
You are half corect in Gripen pronuciarion.
You are right in that the swedish "i" sound is closer to the english "e". But it supose be a slow pronuciation. If it was written in english it would probobly be something like
Greep'n
This is how the SAAB folks pronounced it in our interview.
@@CWLemoine well.. sort of. The issue is when you are swedish and speak english the word pronunication is somewhat collored.
Swedish and engish is actually fairly simular.
Greepn is only a Norrlänsk pronuciation :P
nobody f-ing cares if a foreigner pronounces it a bit different... jesus..
@@paulk84 Agreed
Gripen is the Swedish word for Griffin.
JAS is J is Jakt = Hunt (probably fighter in avionics really but Hunt is verbatim), A = Attack (same word), S is Spaning = Recon/Surveillance. So it would be
HAR or HAS 39 Griffin or possibly FAR or FAS 39 Griffin if translated
Hunter, attacker, reconnaissance / surveillance 39 Griffin
Fighter, Attacker, reconnaissance / surveillance 39 Griffin
FAR 39 Griffin is the most correct translation in avionics really
Grip = Griffin.
Gripen = the Griffin
The Gripen = The the Griffin.
Haven't both the Czeck and Hungarian had Gripen for a few years now? Thay've got to have intercepted something over the years.
Getting the vocal timing correct for "Gripen" would be a Texan "bleepin"
Yes, exactly.
Why would an American pronounce an 'I' as 'EE'...
nobody really cares... I bet a lot of swedes would bunger up the pronunciation of English words as well.. who gives a shit? (coming from a swede)
@@adrien5834 The Griffin*, Griffin would only be Grip.
@@adrien5834 Grip=Griffin
Gripen=the Griffin
1:43 that pilot is throwing up crip 😂😂😂
"some kind of gang sign he's doing..." LMAO
It's cool you read and respond to comments, but over time studies have shown that it can be detrimental to one's health.
Sadly true 😒
Love the Gripen and especially the Meteor missile.
Well, Grip is Griffin. Gripen is The Griffin. The Gripen would be The the Griffin.
Yes, this is what I hear everytime😂. "The the griffin"
I thought the indefinite form is "gripe", not "grip".
@yt45204Yes, Personal Identification Number number is superfluous. But Personal Identification Number code isn't as bad. Also since social security number in Sweden is Personnummer (Person Number) it could easily be confused with the full meaning of PIN.
Call it what ever you want, it's a sexy bird.
". . . look more like whiskers."
LOL! Yup, that's the deep and very serious indeed analysis I'm here for!
We don't do analysis here. Just a couple of fighter pilots talking about stuff like we would in a ready room or squadron bar.
@@CWLemoine Fair enough. Still did give me a chuckle, though.
For some reason I love the Gripen.
Hmm didn't Czech gripens intercept Ivan before?
They've been doing NATO patrols for some time.
Thought i've read something about that being a czech myself xD
Yes, both Czech and Hungary have participated in Baltic air policing with Gripens multiple times. So not first Gripen NATO intercept or first Swedish Gripen intercept but first Swedish Gripen NATO intercept.
Trying to pronounce Gripen reminds me of the TV show Brooklyn Nine-nine's reoccurring bit of trying to pronounce Boyle's kid's name Nikolaj. 😊 "Nikolaj?" "Nikolaj!" "Nikolaj?" "Nikolaj!"
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That's the way I've always said Gripen, and will continue to do so.
As a Swede, nothing wrong with that pronunciation imo. You may also call it the Griffin/Griffon/Gryphon I suppose because that would be the direct translation.
I'm curious as to whether Sweden's Gripen's are currently fielding the AMRAAM or the Meteor in it's interception role (if carrying any ARH missiles), as IIRC it can carry both. Also curious if they're deploying these Gripens from roadways for more practice for actual combat, or if these are being sent from standard air bases.
They are sent from everywhere and they can carry everything.
Our QRA usually only carry guns up until now, not sure if it's changing now that we are a part of NATO. I wouldn't be surprised since what I've seen, NATO QRA usually goes up "fully loaded" :D
AMRAAM are most likely due to the air policing climate right. Meteor is the longer-range alternative more suited for a war-like situation. But as for IR missiles, it will be IRIS-T in any situation.
Both can be used by the latest Meteor is what is currently deployed I believe. And they have both airbases (not many, under a dozen) and the hidden ones, an entire network of them. So taking out an airbase for the Russians won't do jack shit
@@onepluszulu6701 think only the E version currently got IRST tho
Just ignore the pronunciation police. It's not like we Swedes have perfect pronunciation on every foreign military gear. 😂🤝
why everyone acts like Gripen never was part of NATO, when NATO member states have em and even are/were using em for policing in Baltics etc
"Seems like these guys may have done this before."
I do not know the Swedish pronounciation, but we have Gripens in our air force and you are saying it the same way as everyone in here: army officials, pilots, even journalists.
Seeing you guys are just talking about plane related activities can you look at the Pan Spatial Killswitch. It looks really cool.
Anyone that belittles pronunciation is silly, and its fine to say Gripen in whatever way, think of it as the english word "keeping" Its the same stressing and length of the first vowel. Keeping and Gripen. and for anyone its the swedish word for (the) Griffon. Love your videos C.W!
Tu-134 was unexpected because it is like what 1960s-1970s airliner which is in service with 2 airlines
You can fly latest Gripen E in a simulator here in Sweden, at the flight museum. The Swedish airforce have always done this kind of identification missions also before NATO.😂
NATO already had Hungarian Gripens
yeah, but not in the North
Hungary are like Turkey, too French.
And Czechs. ;-)
I don't know if Hungary should even be mentioned in anything related to Swedens NATO accession... it was held up for how many months? For... reasons? (Russia?)
@@Cloud-dq1mr Swedens NATO accession wasn't mentioned at all.
Reread the comment
Swedish airforce is, afaik, the only airforce to do a successful intercept of SR-71. And that was with our old jets (Viggen)😀 Just saying. Nice to be part of the NATO-family.
Literally the only airforce to really try. Why would NATO countries try to intercept a NATO aircraft?
@@johanlassen6448 practice is why. Even tho the SR71 is friendly, you should at least practice an intercept.
You have three options;
- Gripen pronounced englishified
- Gripen pronounced more Swedish, something like “Gr-ee-pen” (google translate etc can pronounce if correctly). So a pretty sharp ee sound
- Griffin, actually translating the name to English. Probably not what the marketing guys want you to do, it’s some IKEA branding strategy to let foreigners just f’ing deal with Swedish for no sane reason.
Anyway love for our metal is much appreciated, and having foreigners ponders our Swedish is like some sort of perverted fun. We’ll always imply there is something slightly off with your pronunciation even if it’s F’ing perfect. Thanks for covering this bird!
Google translate are a product from an American company and have its own bias.
With a e-sound it turns into sound like grepen and that is the tool farmers use that look like a fork and they shovel dung with.
It is an I-sound, gri-pen, it is like you should take the first part of Gri(zzly) and end with the pen, the writing tool. Won’t be perfect from a Swedish stand but closer. Swedish is not English and we put sounds different in the oral cavity.
The Gripen is a beautiful aircraft. Favorite is still the Viggen though.
You’re GRIPEN is correct…🍻
Is it also super useful that the intercepts were coming from both sides of the Baltic Sea? As in Sweden from North side and Germany / Belgium from South.
In swedish it sounds like "greep-en", and there is no "the" since Swedish don't use prefix articles in that way (instead it's the "-en" suffix that is the definite article)
The base word is "Grip" wich means griffon (the legendary beast)
But the english pronouciation is so established at this point so you can say it like that if you want.
Yeah, we in Sweden pronounce our "i" like you would pronounce "ee". Or just call it The Griffon (or some spell it Griffin) as that would be the English translation of the Swedish word Gripen.
It is underway to upgrade the Eurofighter with electronics from the Gripen.
Very nice to see Gripen into NATO! Canada should’ve order Gripen tough!!
NATO has already had Gripens before.
@@seneca983 sorry!! I forgot that Gripen A/D is already in nato 😊😊
"That's some dude trying to not die" 😅
Tu 134 is passenger civil aircraft built in cca 1970.
RE: „It’s the allies you want to have”
Really great to see this teamwork happening “in daily business”; not just during exercises like recent Air Defender 2023.
Typhoon, Viper & Gripen. Add Lightning, Mirage & Super-Hornet, possibly even Rafale also out & up there. Still some Eagles around, too.
Like you said, “symbolic” to certain amount. But also showing & proving capability of closely working together.
There’s nice `teaser´ picture of video when 2 B1-B Lancers landed on Swedish AFB recently - very impressive seeing the dimensions of fighter birds compared to this huge bomber (starting 5min37s at the end of the video there):
ruclips.net/video/UgNplMJi-Ls/видео.html
Btw.:
Gonky, slightly amused about that sequence in your CV “…, A320, dirt bike racer, …” When reading, it always reminds me of this remarkable emergency landing of Ural Airlines in 2023 on (grain-) field few months ago (but harvesting has already been done before).
Gripen is one of the sexiest fighters out there. I’d love to go on a spin on a Gripen, don’t care if I throw up or anything. ❤🇸🇪
Swedens and Finland joining the alliance is a serious power-boost. Russia is pretty much neutralised in the Baltics. Congrats Vlad, good work.
You could just say "Griffin" if you wanted to. Gripen is the swedish word for (the) Griffin. Just like a previous Swedish aircraft were named "Draken" aka "The Dragon"
Draken was "The kite". Yeah, it's a double meaning but it was named for looking like a kite.
Gripen very capable small fighter designed to kill MIG's :) I still don't understand why my country chose the Rafale F3R over the Grippen deal for a small country like Croatia I think the Gripen would be more then capable for all domestic and NATO related tasks and possible cheaper to operate and maintain.
Gripen or the Griffin. Not the grippen. Saab JAS39 is fine as well.
@@Tapio86 I stand corrected
Gripen is a great jet IMHO
Very maneuverable
Great asset to Nato
Those are very cool
Love the look of the Gripen. I think despite not being a gen 5 it's a bad @ss jet!
C3 is the biggest challenge to integrate multinational military operations. Due to complexities of international relations, adversaries of one nation may be trading partners for another. Technology and methods transfer of a military nature can be an unwanted result. My interactions and work indicate that the Swedes are a good ally.
Interesting imfo!!! Roa Aotearoa nui.
You do not need flight plan or Mode3 over international waters…
Gripen does look a bit wimpy compared to Viggen (and Draken) but being a smaller target is a good thing, I guess.
Gripen E have something like 1.0 to 0.1 m sq radar cross section and it's not a stealth plane, bigger is not always better.
Lots of gripen about the pronunciation of Gripen 😂
Everybody seems to have a gripe over it
The Gripens also escort the B1 in Sweden.
Time to make that name International. Gripen=Griffin
Gripen with a long "i", so it becomes Greepen as others have hinted
It's a long i in Gripen, not a short one, hence the use of only one p after the i in Gripen..🧐😉🤪 & about the canards, Gripen uses close-coupled canards, as does the Rafale. This configuration increases lift..
I pronounce it exactly as the folks at SAAB did in my interview with their test/demo pilot. It's not incorrect.
@@CWLemoine We dont care how you pronounce it, we understand what you mean, Im very supprised to hear about people having negative comments about it, only heard suggestions of how to say it, not critic about how you say it.
Keep up with the good videos!
@@CWLemoine Swedes pronounce it differently when they talk swedish compared to when they talk english. I think people is just pointing out that its pronounced slightly different in swedish which is irrelevant when you talk english. for example: ruclips.net/video/6KV2OpebHAw/видео.htmlsi=FOcEv4bFfgJRXT_D&t=7 , compared to: ruclips.net/video/pZSsIx_7uio/видео.htmlsi=NhrNAnTcvyEC7bn5
Gonky could have 'remain' in RMAF Hornets, perhaps he may have the chance to exercise with the Royal Thai AF Gripens 😂
What you say is actually "Grippen" with a double pp. You should pronounce is as "Greepen", with one P and double E
Nope. This is how SAAB pronounces it.
Th ‘i’ in Gripen is pronounced as a long sounding i. Like Griiipen.
No hate. All love. An honor to be part of NATO. Greets to all our new found allies!
Greeeepeeen!
Does this mean that the Swedish AF has finally NATO IFF cryptographic keys? Because their equipment is NATO compatible.
As a Swede, I wouldn't be mad if you called it "The Griffin", since that's what Gripen means ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, if you aren't French you probably can't pronounce "D'assault Mirage" correctly or half of their air assets. Butchering pronounciations is part of a globalized world and languages in general.
There are no French assets.
Gonky, Know Your Aircraft Okay? That 4 Engined Jet is a Vickers VC-10 Tanker of the RAF!!
The Russian military don't operate any VC-10s (the Russian flags are a big clue). Looks like a Tu-134
If we know what you mean it does not matter how you say it
Russians now are completely shut off from the Baltic sea when Sweden joined with thier fast to scramble Jets from the north.
i think english speakers should call it Griffin, which is what Gripen means.
Gripen was designed to be NATO compatible from the start.
"Skräcködlan"
People who say Gree-pen are imposing a .... exaggerated , Swedish accent on the name.
I love the typhoon but for the record ...
The Gripen is more elegant. I would feel pride at being destroyed by such a beautiful air-craft.
We welcome allies that pull their own weight. …consistently, and not just when things get hot. Militaries don’t rebuild in 12 months. It’s more like 12 years.
Common, Swedish air-force have been doing this since ww2. No NATO needed.
I wanted to join NATO because of solidarity with especially the Baltic States who are in obvious crosshairs by Putin.
If there would be a war with us involved it would be in a larger context anyways. Except for a Crimea kind of grab of Gotland.
More of a strategic place than actual conquest.
Having lived with the cold war where the whole of society was in a kind of extreme readiness.
Russia of today doesn't scare as much.
You can say Grippen or Greepen. If you want to get it right, just ditch “the”. It’s already included… or you’d have to say “the Grip”… 😄
They did the intercepts the same day they became full members of NATO - Without a hitch.
Because to the Swedish Airforce, the only change was a bit of ink on a paper that officialised a colaboration that started in the 1960ies and has grown ever closer since.
It was about as eventful as a courthouse marriage when the couple have been living as if married for over half their lives and only tied the knot to make sure the mean spirited next of kin on either side can't kick a surviving partner out of their home if either one pass away before the other.
@@SonsOfLorgar Apt description
I'd have preferred Sweden & Finland stayed neutral, but the whole "did-NATO-expansion-actually-cause-Russian-aggression" question is for other channels.
Even if Sweden remained neutral, there's not reason that NATO nations would need to shy away from these Gripen's. They seem to have built a very capable no-nonsense fighter that can keeps a lot of real-world usage issues in mind.
What I want to know is: Do they assemble it with an Allen key ? 😉
Sweden left their neutrality in 1992 when they rewrote their doctrine, they became non aligned and in 1994 they joined NATO's PFP program. After having enough of Russian BS they finally made the right move and became full members of NATO.
Regarding the Gripen, it took a real war for the rest of the world to understand that Gripen and other Swedish military products aren't too bad.
You say it right.
It's Griipen. (long i), the Swedish guy ;)
FYI
There's a video from a few weeks ago where ukrainian mig-29 catches a2a missile while trying to flee right on camera