You really should go to an EA conference for NHL 16 and tell them what really needs to change and I bet they'll give you a job because you'll be the only one who's making sense and pitching in realistic ideas to make NHL a better game
Everyone like that comment johnny can see that, I totally agree. He probably has more knowledge on how to make this game better than the producer himself lol.
Canuck024 he never said coding was easy his point is curent gen pails in comparison too old gen witch if they can code nhl15 for 360 good why not the one ile tell u why cause its all about one thing money money money money and the less time u put into the code the less money u have to spend and also they only care about graphics not game play u guys who bought nhl 15 for the one/ps4 r all suckers
Nhlforever - Patrick Kane that would of won the scoring title if he didn't get hurt Patrick Kane that is in the Nhl Patrick Kane that made team USA every year he was in the leage Patrick Kane that is a successful millionaire Patrick Kane who scored the Stanley cup winner against Philadelphia in 6 games
Patrick Kane is way better than Cindy Crybaby Crosby will ever be. 2 Stanley Cup trophies, a Conn Smythe at the age of 25, scored the game winning goal to win the Stanley Cup at age 21 against the Flyers on the road! Would've easily lead the league in points and won the Art Ross trophy this year had he not been injured against the Panthers. Kane steps up his game when it counts, in the playoffs year after year, while Crosby continues his tradition of a first round exit almost annually. When's the last time the Pens actually had a good playoff run? If you don't believe me, look at Patrick Kane's stats in the postseason compared to Crosbys. It's not even close! Kane>>>>>>>>>Crosby
Id say to make stick handling more fair, add something like skill moves that they have in FIFA. Now players like John scott could have like a 2 star skill atribute, while Crosby can have a 5 star rating. It would make sense because when is Scott ever gonna have to put it between his legs or toe drag
Sean Walsh He doesn't like Johnny, that's why thought, he's jelous that 2BC is bigger. In fact, i've only seen 2 NHL you tubers saying that they like 2BC, HoofBeatGaming and someone else, just forgot, sorry about that. I searched for GM Modes and found one with Vancouver i believe, don't watch it more because it's soo boring, he's playing unrealistically and still can't get to the playoffs, but in the first video he said something like "A youtuber who shall not be mentioned in this video *cough* already took Arizona. Thanks for telling me". Think his name is something with Jo, god dang it he's so pathetic. Bacon's fans has an average age on probably 10-12 so it doesn't surprise me, he's as slicking EA like a lot other people because fuck knows why.
***** They can't put all the recommendations in the next years model. Doesn't fit into their business model of "Release a game that is a borderline update from the previous so we can maximize profits and always keep people wanting more when they realize they wasted $70"
Johnny it's very obvious that you weren't even trying with Crosby and used editing to slow down Crosby and speed up Scott (sarcasm). But in all honesty I feel the same way about this game. In NHL 14 grabner was so mush quicker than everybody else, on current gen you can hardly tell! Hopefully EA will get their shit together in NHL 16.
I still play both games on old gen and in general NHL 14 games are faster than NHL 15. I have two players, one boosted to almost identical (I'm using Marian Gaborik) and his speed is the same in each game. NHL 14 gabby is noticeably faster than the NHL 15 version. Same height, weight, speed, and all stats are boosted to the same.
Johnny, I agree completely with all your points, but what about the rest of the attributes? Is passing, shooting, checking all the same? It would be cool to see you test those things too.
Lol Johnny, you gotta stop using the "read between the lines" method..... most of your viewers dont even understand what that means. I agree 100% with every point you made, and especially LOVED how you backed up your claims with facts and experiments. Current gen consoles are a cash grab, hell Sony has sold out so i wont be buying any of their stuff anymore. #OldGenIsBetter #GetYourFactsStraight #JohnnyForPrimeMinister
Old gen consoles are better because of one sports game? Plus, even if NHL 15 current gen is shit, at least it's different and not NHL 14 replaced with the number 15. #OldGenPeasants #TimeToUpgrade #SaveOneDollarADayAndYouWouldveHadOneByNow #Lol #AnyOneWantAnAutograph?
I'm not hating on Johnny he was the first Chanel I was subscribed to, I just want to give a idea for a new series on his Chanel. Remember how Johnny said that he want to turn his HUT kinda into a GM Mode but all he has been doing is getting free packs from EA and getting amazing pulls and putting them into his starting lineup and dominating his opponents. The series I have for Johnny is as follows he should start with a full starting lineup of just 75 rated players. Then in order to upgrade his players to the next rating which is 76, he has to win games by multiple goals for example let's say Johnny plays a game and wins 3 goals to 1 he can only upgrade 2 players by 1 rating he can't upgrade the same player by 2 ratings. If Johnny loses for example 4 goals to 0, he has to DISCARD 4 players of his choice and BUY (but if already is fine) 4 players of the rating lower then the players he discarded. I love 2bc Chanel I want it to grow, and I thinks adding a new series could do that and I have no name for this series. Please like so Johnny sees!!!!
i think he just shouldn't use packs and stuff that is sponsor or ea gives him, further more he should play without putting money and only use the puck he gets with selling cards and playing games you know kinda like the broke piece of... that i am
Kris Matysiak Lots of fifa youtubers do a similar type of thing like a f8tal or road to glory type of thing and I think it would be a good idea for him to do something like that as well... Hopefully he sees your comment
Kris Matysiak That might be true, but Johnny has said countless number of times that he recommends people not to PAY with ACTUAL money for packs. If he didn't get free EA packs from EA Sports, do you honestly see him buying ones with his actual money? No way!
I can totally understand this. It has always felt like my higher rated players have underperformed in HUT, but seeing this video now clears up any confusion I had. My 89 overall Evgeni Nabokov was letting in goals that 70 overall goalies would let in. It matters more about the skill of the player with his team rather than the player ratings. This also shows that EA tries to get a ton of money out of our wallets by releasing supposed amazing high caliber player cards that aren't much of a difference than a regular card.
Stop hating Johnny a great youtubers and if you play nhl 15 then you'll understand that this is a problem and he's trying to help all of us by trying to get it fixed
Here's the thing, I respect Johnny's opinion and appreciate the facts he showed in this video. I think some of the game mechanics are flawed yes like the hands. Skating is one I disagree on, cause all you are doing is skating in a straight line, when you play a real game you notice a difference. Also you never tested the shooting categories which IMO do indeed make a difference when playing a game. Body checking as well makes a huge difference in the game. The reason I don't like the original video is because you only showed attributes that support your theory instead of testing out all of the category's. 8/10 I could go end to end with Crosby but with Scott I would just get poked at the blue line. So well you made some good points you also left out 70% of the attributes they got right
It does make you wonder how different the game is now to NHL 15, personally I don't find a huge difference in performance still. Could you do an updated video for 17?
Out of all the bloggers you tubers bacons and any other NHL game tester and from me a fellow die hard ea NHL player ID say this guys by far the most legit his experiments look pretty good and I can say he definitely proves some good points here and has changed my outlook on getting the big boys!
Johnny you are absolutely right I was in div 1 with guys like giroux and hossa and then one day I randomly tried out guys like 85 and under and won the div 1 title! I went from being good enough to just stay in div 1 to winning the title!
You're right about the division one thing you said, because I have Crosby who is untradeable and then the rest of my teams rating are 79-88(best D is 85) and I've stayed in division 1 for like a month now with the same team and I destroy people who have teams stacked with legendlegends and all 90+ players
They need to absolutely fix goalie ratings. They're a piss off. I've had a million goalies, all over 88 and everyone can fire in the easiest goals. Like a 91 overall shouldn't be letting in 3 goals on 10 shots and yet my opponent will have an 87 overall who saves 31 shots. It's truly aggravating and makes it hard to love the game when I can't have a goalie to rely on to make a save here or then when I fuck up.
Johnny, i took your advice, i play div 1 and I decided to take some 80 overalls and play 4 games with them, i won all four games. It actually felt like my players were making better passes than my 90 overalls were, my first line cogliano-monahan-gallagher. I really think all you div 1 players should try and use lower overall players, it really feels better playing with them than higher overalls. I really hope this helps!
Could you do a comparison to see if/how height and weight affect attributes? Very curious to see if raising your height and weight does affect speed/agility, and by how much. Love all the videos, especially the 6v6 "back to the minors" episodes, keep it up!
What really seperates good players from bad players in HuT is glitch goals! Miviens said it best' "all the top players in NHL use glitch goals" doesnt matter if you have an all base card team or a TOTY team if you use glitches you will WIN!
The arguments you are making, Johnny, are perfectly sound and I buy them. The problem here is that these arguments are read, misunderstood and then battled by people who probably don't understand so called: "lines of reasoning". Here's my tip to you, Johhny: Answering every stupid comment will only tire you to the point of being "burnt out". Be more cynical when you decide to dedicate an entire video to be a community- response.
I totally agree with you Johnny! But I tink the only attribute that has a big difference between superstar and crappy players is the shootong categorie... Can you do a video where you test the shooting categorie please. Keep up the awesome videos Johnny!
Great video and I must say that I've been thinking that the individual stats are pretty much useless for a long time. However I think that the game balances the matches according the overalls of the teams or something. Try this out Johnny!!: play a versus game with someone and use the CHL teams, the teams feel pretty much exactly like using NHL teams. After that, play a versus match with a CHL team against an NHL team. The CHL team will feel slow and clumsy and overall worse. Then try to put a star player like Crosby to the CHL team and play against an NHL team, I bet that Crosby will feel as slow and clumsy as the 60ovr junior. I think this because there's definitely an advantage when playing versus game with eg. Chicago and in HUT i've lost about 35 out 200 games in reg and huge majority of them has been against pay-to-win teams.
could the hands mean while a defenceman is trying to stop them rather then unopposed and speed is the top speed what are the players acceleration stats at?
I totally agree because I spent around 350k on a line of TOTY Haglien TOTY Helm and Bure. I was expecting to get breakaways a lot but I have gotten probably 1or 2 breakaways if any
BaconCountry played with a bunch of bronze players and he actually did win some games. Sure say he had Price in net but he actually did score and win games up with the top players in the world in HUT. I completely agree with Johnny and he did back up his arguments with facts and evidence. Bacon did nothing but prove these facts.
Part of me can understand why people want to defend this game as it's many people's (including my own up until this year's iteration) favorite game, but another part of me says that we as the players of this game need to stop defending this game it was junk when it came out it was junk after patches and updates and it's junk now. We just want our NHL back.
I think everything you're saying is absolutely true, but in both fifa and nhl, ultimate team plays completely different from any other game mode. If ur not testing it in hut games, it's not necessarily valid. I can say from experience I know what u mean in nhl, but in fifa it seems that ratings not meaning anything applies mostly with informs tots motm etc. cards, honestly they seem to play worse.
I think you can see the difference if you have full team of 70 overall players or 90 overall players. But overall i agree with almost everything you said.
I agree with everything you say, but to me it seems like I only loose to the teams with bure, gretzky, and Lemuix. They just shoot it. Which is a high percentage play in NHL15 even though anyone else and I can't do it like they can. You made a video in NHL 12-13 about how a puck went through a goalies glove. You thought this was due to things like offensive awareness. Maybe its something similar but the higher players just get better results.
You're missing the point... John Scott is an NHL athlete! Its not normal for an NHLer to lose the puck on a spin-o-rama (360) on every single attempt! I don't think he should be dusted by Sid!
Kirk Leonard Come on! personally im nowheres near a hockey career like John Scotts (or any NHLer for that matter) and I can easily pull one off (obviously not fluently)... If I can do one, im pretty sure John Scott can! Maybe what they should do instead is have him pull the move slower instead of making him lose the puck every single time!
Kirk Leonard That's true but he can still pull one off! they should just have him run into the player instead of having him lose the puck (in other words, they should have him fumble with it). Like I said before, he's still in the NHL, I doubt he'd lose the puck on a 360!
People don't listen to reason. They don't understand. They see the title of the video and argue against it just to be jerks. They don't listen to what you actually say. They don't know how to think Johnny.
ya good vid man, and by dear god anyone doesnt believe this, get 2 players that are the same build (height, weight)with overalls that are very different and do the same tests build has alot to do with speed
Johnny, you are right and there is no need to listen to the people who don't know what they're talking about. The fact of the matter is that this game is shit and was a huge disappointment.
Damn ea has trouba at 83, with low potential. He can't grow at all naturally and can barley get to 15 points in gm mode, all this shitty attributes for a 20 year old that got 29 points in 65 games playing with mark Stuart. EA has to fix TROUBA in NHL 16
Bacon presented a good argument. You are throwing 96 and 72 out quite a lot. But if you check the SKT rating they are 8 away. There not flawed your argument is flawed Johnny.
Ive played as a bronze team against stacked 90+ teams it would be hard because my guys would get injured or destroyed but i would beat them.. Johnny is right about the overalls being almost meaningless
2BCProductions UH OH Johnny yer boy BaconCountry is calling u out today! He is clearly opposing MOST of your tests as NG... i have to agree with you on most of your points u made in this video< however the skating speed test i do agree with BaconCountry that Base Crosby is only a 90 skating overall and john Scott is actually an 82 which is only 8 differance between and anymore then 11ft gap would chance ruining the game!! My opinion is 11 feet is more then enough to deke around break clear enough to have a one on one breakaway with the goalie and to tuck that biscuit :)
You really should go to an EA conference for NHL 16 and tell them what really needs to change and I bet they'll give you a job because you'll be the only one who's making sense and pitching in realistic ideas to make NHL a better game
Everyone like that comment johnny can see that, I totally agree. He probably has more knowledge on how to make this game better than the producer himself lol.
Jordan32353 It's easy to rip on games when you have zero idea how to code
Canuck024 he never said coding was easy his point is curent gen
pails in comparison too old gen witch if they can code nhl15 for 360 good why not the one ile tell u why cause its all about one thing money money money money and the less time u put into the code the less money u have to spend and also they only care about graphics not game play u guys who bought nhl 15 for the one/ps4 r all suckers
***** Sadly, that's not how it works.
Johnny doesn't like going outside
Try it with someone else than John Scott. John Scott is too amazing to be in a contest with pitiful crosby
Parker Doran ikr thats what i said in the other video
Parker Doran Crosby is an Olympian. Scott is a 4th line goon.
Max Power You must be fun at parties.
Max Power do you even joke, bro?
Sean Avery
Well, you. For falling for it XD
Well I mean we all know John Scott > Sidney Crosbitch
Shut the hell up you idiot
Liam Ferguson Dumbass it's a joke
Patrick crybaby Kane
Patrick I'm too weak to play Kane
Patrick I barely touched the boards and hurt myself Kane
Nhlforever - Patrick Kane that would of won the scoring title if he didn't get hurt
Patrick Kane that is in the Nhl
Patrick Kane that made team USA every year he was in the leage
Patrick Kane that is a successful millionaire
Patrick Kane who scored the Stanley cup winner against Philadelphia in 6 games
Patrick Kane is way better than Cindy Crybaby Crosby will ever be. 2 Stanley Cup trophies, a Conn Smythe at the age of 25, scored the game winning goal to win the Stanley Cup at age 21 against the Flyers on the road! Would've easily lead the league in points and won the Art Ross trophy this year had he not been injured against the Panthers. Kane steps up his game when it counts, in the playoffs year after year, while Crosby continues his tradition of a first round exit almost annually. When's the last time the Pens actually had a good playoff run? If you don't believe me, look at Patrick Kane's stats in the postseason compared to Crosbys. It's not even close! Kane>>>>>>>>>Crosby
Patiently waiting for *insert "big" NHL RUclips channel here* to bash this video and Johnny just because he is Johnny
Bacon country allready did.
lol! Yup
acerlabtop wait what when
Crosby is love, Crosby is life.
-Pierre
FUCK YOU PIERRE! YOU SUCK ASS
Pierre Mcguire Shut up pierre
Pierre Mcguire Wow, Pierre actually said something that I'd expect him to say for once.
Pierre Mcguire Doc Emerick, and Brian Englom are the worst things to happen to hockey
Id say to make stick handling more fair, add something like skill moves that they have in FIFA. Now players like John scott could have like a 2 star skill atribute, while Crosby can have a 5 star rating. It would make sense because when is Scott ever gonna have to put it between his legs or toe drag
Good idea
Guys he's right. BaconCountry stayed in division 1 with all bronze players
And then bacon said he disagreed with him on twitter
Sean Walsh He doesn't like Johnny, that's why thought, he's jelous that 2BC is bigger. In fact, i've only seen 2 NHL you tubers saying that they like 2BC, HoofBeatGaming and someone else, just forgot, sorry about that. I searched for GM Modes and found one with Vancouver i believe, don't watch it more because it's soo boring, he's playing unrealistically and still can't get to the playoffs, but in the first video he said something like "A youtuber who shall not be mentioned in this video *cough* already took Arizona. Thanks for telling me". Think his name is something with Jo, god dang it he's so pathetic. Bacon's fans has an average age on probably 10-12 so it doesn't surprise me, he's as slicking EA like a lot other people because fuck knows why.
*Cough* BOJoeKO *Cough*
BTW did Johnny get big from the Hercules check or was he big before then?
Sean Avery He started to get big after the New Jersey series, if i remember
*****
i loved his COD montages, those were the best
I literally don't understand why EA doesn't listen to Johnny. If he helped make NHL 16 I guarantee it would be one of the best games on the market
Because they would have to work and they would not make enough money
***** They can't put all the recommendations in the next years model. Doesn't fit into their business model of "Release a game that is a borderline update from the previous so we can maximize profits and always keep people wanting more when they realize they wasted $70"
Johnny it's very obvious that you weren't even trying with Crosby and used editing to slow down Crosby and speed up Scott (sarcasm). But in all honesty I feel the same way about this game. In NHL 14 grabner was so mush quicker than everybody else, on current gen you can hardly tell! Hopefully EA will get their shit together in NHL 16.
I still play both games on old gen and in general NHL 14 games are faster than NHL 15. I have two players, one boosted to almost identical (I'm using Marian Gaborik) and his speed is the same in each game. NHL 14 gabby is noticeably faster than the NHL 15 version. Same height, weight, speed, and all stats are boosted to the same.
PureClutch I feel like speed attributes made a bigger difference in NHL 13 than NHL 14 too.
Johnny, I agree completely with all your points, but what about the rest of the attributes? Is passing, shooting, checking all the same? It would be cool to see you test those things too.
I know I am very late to the party, but the apologists got obliterated. 2BC is one of the very few youtube cannels with integrity.
Goddamn, I wish EA gave Johnny a say in making the NHL games
Lol Johnny, you gotta stop using the "read between the lines" method..... most of your viewers dont even understand what that means. I agree 100% with every point you made, and especially LOVED how you backed up your claims with facts and experiments. Current gen consoles are a cash grab, hell Sony has sold out so i wont be buying any of their stuff anymore. #OldGenIsBetter #GetYourFactsStraight #JohnnyForPrimeMinister
How did sony sell out?
Old gen consoles are better because of one sports game? Plus, even if NHL 15 current gen is shit, at least it's different and not NHL 14 replaced with the number 15. #OldGenPeasants #TimeToUpgrade #SaveOneDollarADayAndYouWouldveHadOneByNow #Lol #AnyOneWantAnAutograph?
eh dub word
eh dub hahahahahahaha johnny for prime minister!!! HAHAAHA
eh dub What's so bad about him saying "read between the lines?"
I'm not hating on Johnny he was the first Chanel I was subscribed to, I just want to give a idea for a new series on his Chanel. Remember how Johnny said that he want to turn his HUT kinda into a GM Mode but all he has been doing is getting free packs from EA and getting amazing pulls and putting them into his starting lineup and dominating his opponents. The series I have for Johnny is as follows he should start with a full starting lineup of just 75 rated players. Then in order to upgrade his players to the next rating which is 76, he has to win games by multiple goals for example let's say Johnny plays a game and wins 3 goals to 1 he can only upgrade 2 players by 1 rating he can't upgrade the same player by 2 ratings. If Johnny loses for example 4 goals to 0, he has to DISCARD 4 players of his choice and BUY (but if already is fine) 4 players of the rating lower then the players he discarded. I love 2bc Chanel I want it to grow, and I thinks adding a new series could do that and I have no name for this series. Please like so Johnny sees!!!!
i think he just shouldn't use packs and stuff that is sponsor or ea gives him, further more he should play without putting money and only use the puck he gets with selling cards and playing games you know kinda like the broke piece of... that i am
Kris Matysiak i agree, but Channel* not chanel, srry grammer nazi
Stone Pillar That's*
Kris Matysiak Lots of fifa youtubers do a similar type of thing like a f8tal or road to glory type of thing and I think it would be a good idea for him to do something like that as well... Hopefully he sees your comment
Kris Matysiak That might be true, but Johnny has said countless number of times that he recommends people not to PAY with ACTUAL money for packs. If he didn't get free EA packs from EA Sports, do you honestly see him buying ones with his actual money? No way!
I can totally understand this. It has always felt like my higher rated players have underperformed in HUT, but seeing this video now clears up any confusion I had. My 89 overall Evgeni Nabokov was letting in goals that 70 overall goalies would let in. It matters more about the skill of the player with his team rather than the player ratings. This also shows that EA tries to get a ton of money out of our wallets by releasing supposed amazing high caliber player cards that aren't much of a difference than a regular card.
I love when Johnny proves the whole NHL community wrong with a 5 minutes video.
Needs more Shane McMahon music.
I was hoping for some GM modes = =
Bill K I really wanted that too, but hey, does anyone but rich people get anything in life? Lets get real here...
Stop hating Johnny a great youtubers and if you play nhl 15 then you'll understand that this is a problem and he's trying to help all of us by trying to get it fixed
Jr this wasn't meant for hate, sorry if you were offended..
Bacon made a good point saying Crosby's Skating category is actually only 8 points better than Scott's despite their overalls being miles apart.
Here's the thing, I respect Johnny's opinion and appreciate the facts he showed in this video. I think some of the game mechanics are flawed yes like the hands. Skating is one I disagree on, cause all you are doing is skating in a straight line, when you play a real game you notice a difference. Also you never tested the shooting categories which IMO do indeed make a difference when playing a game. Body checking as well makes a huge difference in the game. The reason I don't like the original video is because you only showed attributes that support your theory instead of testing out all of the category's. 8/10 I could go end to end with Crosby but with Scott I would just get poked at the blue line. So well you made some good points you also left out 70% of the attributes they got right
i agree in a way that shootings a big part and bronze just dosn't seem to snipe as well as a gold player
Johnny is absolutely right about the Div 1 thing. HUT and Versus is more about how you play the game rather than the players on the ice.
Anyone see Bacon's video on this? #Team2BC
It does make you wonder how different the game is now to NHL 15, personally I don't find a huge difference in performance still. Could you do an updated video for 17?
I don't care. Still want my Phagoof card.
Ok, we've seen skating and puck-handling, can you do a new video on stick/body-checking and shooting?
Out of all the bloggers you tubers bacons and any other NHL game tester and from me a fellow die hard ea NHL player ID say this guys by far the most legit his experiments look pretty good and I can say he definitely proves some good points here and has changed my outlook on getting the big boys!
this is also the only sports game where like 75% of the nhl players have overalls between 80 and 84, it's crazy.
Johnny you are absolutely right I was in div 1 with guys like giroux and hossa and then one day I randomly tried out guys like 85 and under and won the div 1 title! I went from being good enough to just stay in div 1 to winning the title!
You're right about the division one thing you said, because I have Crosby who is untradeable and then the rest of my teams rating are 79-88(best D is 85) and I've stayed in division 1 for like a month now with the same team and I destroy people who have teams stacked with legendlegends and all 90+ players
They need to absolutely fix goalie ratings. They're a piss off. I've had a million goalies, all over 88 and everyone can fire in the easiest goals. Like a 91 overall shouldn't be letting in 3 goals on 10 shots and yet my opponent will have an 87 overall who saves 31 shots. It's truly aggravating and makes it hard to love the game when I can't have a goalie to rely on to make a save here or then when I fuck up.
This is why there needs to be mutliple companies that make two different hockey games.. COMPETITION PREVENTS THEM FROM HANDING OUT A FLAWED GAME
Hands doesn't mean just moving the stick side to side. It's also how players can receive a pass and other things.
Yo 2bc Bacon Country just basically took a shot at your video bro! ;P
Johnny, i took your advice, i play div 1 and I decided to take some 80 overalls and play 4 games with them, i won all four games. It actually felt like my players were making better passes than my 90 overalls were, my first line cogliano-monahan-gallagher. I really think all you div 1 players should try and use lower overall players, it really feels better playing with them than higher overalls. I really hope this helps!
Could you do a comparison to see if/how height and weight affect attributes? Very curious to see if raising your height and weight does affect speed/agility, and by how much.
Love all the videos, especially the 6v6 "back to the minors" episodes, keep it up!
What really seperates good players from bad players in HuT is glitch goals! Miviens said it best' "all the top players in NHL use glitch goals" doesnt matter if you have an all base card team or a TOTY team if you use glitches you will WIN!
max1ce "You must be a cheesy boy" =D
Great video Johnny do some EASHL on old gen please
Great video! You got a new subscriber :) you and Bacon is best
Johnny u should play a HUT game with a silver or bronze team and see if the players play the same as your current team
great vid man. i wonder if you use 80 overall players now, if you get the "ice tilt" or "momentum" in every game you play from there on out.
thank you for reaffirming my belief about stats in this game. You provide a great service to the NHL community
The arguments you are making, Johnny, are perfectly sound and I buy them. The problem here is that these arguments are read, misunderstood and then battled by people who probably don't understand so called: "lines of reasoning".
Here's my tip to you, Johhny: Answering every stupid comment will only tire you to the point of being "burnt out". Be more cynical when you decide to dedicate an entire video to be a community- response.
Is that Phaneuf you talked about in the last video still available?
Did bacon take his video down? I'd love to see his response to this video. I haven't seen bacon's original video hating on johnnys experiment.
I think you're absolutely right Johnny. Now that that's cleared up let's see some more Sens GM mode!
I wonder how John Scott feels if he sees this video hahahaha
I totally agree with you Johnny! But I tink the only attribute that has a big difference between superstar and crappy players is the shootong categorie... Can you do a video where you test the shooting categorie please. Keep up the awesome videos Johnny!
To much margin for human error. You can't have the same shot each time for sure.
yeah you're right...
My understanding was that HUT was supposed to be more of a Card Trading game than an actual realistic game play mode
Great video and I must say that I've been thinking that the individual stats are pretty much useless for a long time. However I think that the game balances the matches according the overalls of the teams or something.
Try this out Johnny!!: play a versus game with someone and use the CHL teams, the teams feel pretty much exactly like using NHL teams. After that, play a versus match with a CHL team against an NHL team. The CHL team will feel slow and clumsy and overall worse. Then try to put a star player like Crosby to the CHL team and play against an NHL team, I bet that Crosby will feel as slow and clumsy as the 60ovr junior.
I think this because there's definitely an advantage when playing versus game with eg. Chicago and in HUT i've lost about 35 out 200 games in reg and huge majority of them has been against pay-to-win teams.
Thank you for doing this johnny...i just want a good hockey game so bad...i just dont get how they think this product is good enough
The last thing Johnny said I was like yesssss tell em
good job man, U did surprised me.
What about the shooting stat? Does that have a big effect for HUT?
could the hands mean while a defenceman is trying to stop them rather then unopposed and speed is the top speed what are the players acceleration stats at?
I totally agree because I spent around 350k on a line of TOTY Haglien TOTY Helm and Bure. I was expecting to get breakaways a lot but I have gotten probably 1or 2 breakaways if any
I agree with you Johnny, I wish that ratings meant more
BaconCountry played with a bunch of bronze players and he actually did win some games. Sure say he had Price in net but he actually did score and win games up with the top players in the world in HUT. I completely agree with Johnny and he did back up his arguments with facts and evidence. Bacon did nothing but prove these facts.
Part of me can understand why people want to defend this game as it's many people's (including my own up until this year's iteration) favorite game, but another part of me says that we as the players of this game need to stop defending this game it was junk when it came out it was junk after patches and updates and it's junk now. We just want our NHL back.
So true! I have Crosby and a bunch of studs and really they don't play that much different only their shots are better like wrist shots
I would love to see the same tests done in NHL 16.
Do a shoutout commentary on how Mike Babcock might coach in Toronto
I think everything you're saying is absolutely true, but in both fifa and nhl, ultimate team plays completely different from any other game mode. If ur not testing it in hut games, it's not necessarily valid. I can say from experience I know what u mean in nhl, but in fifa it seems that ratings not meaning anything applies mostly with informs tots motm etc. cards, honestly they seem to play worse.
As a canadian fan u think we will be out in game4?
I think you can see the difference if you have full team of 70 overall players or 90 overall players. But overall i agree with almost everything you said.
sooooo.... is the pga phagoof card still on sale?
People are idiots! Mostly teals! Your test are amazing and thank you very much for doing it!
Do you think they should do like FIFA for the dekes ? Skill moves?
every half second is important, even if he beats only 1 inch.... in a game his feels
Talks shit about EA's games, still gets free shit from them
When's another civ video coming?
You are right Johnny. They have to fix that.
Do what bacon said for the skating, use someone with 72 skating.
You know what game actually takes note of player stats and that you should totally replace your Ottawa GM with?
Eastside Hockey Manager.
Ata boy johnny 👍👍👍👏👏👏
I agree with everything you say, but to me it seems like I only loose to the teams with bure, gretzky, and Lemuix. They just shoot it. Which is a high percentage play in NHL15 even though anyone else and I can't do it like they can. You made a video in NHL 12-13 about how a puck went through a goalies glove. You thought this was due to things like offensive awareness. Maybe its something similar but the higher players just get better results.
Aw NHL 15 doesn't have that NBC presentation for Old-Gen? Dammit.
You're missing the point... John Scott is an NHL athlete! Its not normal for an NHLer to lose the puck on a spin-o-rama (360) on every single attempt! I don't think he should be dusted by Sid!
Kirk Leonard Come on! personally im nowheres near a hockey career like John Scotts (or any NHLer for that matter) and I can easily pull one off (obviously not fluently)... If I can do one, im pretty sure John Scott can!
Maybe what they should do instead is have him pull the move slower instead of making him lose the puck every single time!
Kirk Leonard That's true but he can still pull one off! they should just have him run into the player instead of having him lose the puck (in other words, they should have him fumble with it). Like I said before, he's still in the NHL, I doubt he'd lose the puck on a 360!
Still waiting on that boxing main event tonight
its because john scott is a fucking all star
lol BaconCountry made a video recently about the ratings "not almost meaningless"
I haven't tried it myself (and this is a legit question) but its this a problem on both the xbox and the ps4, or could it be different?
People don't listen to reason. They don't understand. They see the title of the video and argue against it just to be jerks. They don't listen to what you actually say. They don't know how to think Johnny.
John Scott has 82 overall skating and crosby has 90... Beating him by 11 feet seems alright to me...
Where are your gm modes???
ya good vid man, and by dear god anyone doesnt believe this, get 2 players that are the same build (height, weight)with overalls that are very different and do the same tests build has alot to do with speed
Why is John Scott wearing different jersey numbers
Johnny, you are right and there is no need to listen to the people who don't know what they're talking about. The fact of the matter is that this game is shit and was a huge disappointment.
What slider setting do you use?
I agree but sometimes they dont pull off the moves
Damn ea has trouba at 83, with low potential. He can't grow at all naturally and can barley get to 15 points in gm mode, all this shitty attributes for a 20 year old that got 29 points in 65 games playing with mark Stuart. EA has to fix TROUBA in NHL 16
Jonny you are right John Scott shouldn't catch up to Crosby
nothing pisses me off more than a nhl player not being able to pick up a puck or a pass. this game sucks
You have to do This comparison with NHL 16 A.S.A.P, please
Bacon presented a good argument. You are throwing 96 and 72 out quite a lot. But if you check the SKT rating they are 8 away. There not flawed your argument is flawed Johnny.
Rips on HUT…they shower him with free packs.
Paul Stastny
Who cares? The packs are essentially useless anyway, the cards are not worth the coins or the money.
Paul Stastny he gives 0 fucks about the packs and only opens them so he can give us players.
They don't care what he says, they reward him for showing off their game to a large audience and because he doesn't promote coin selling
He uses the cards he pulls to give away? Looks like you don't deserve to be part of the giveaways.
Actually if EA managed to perfect the gameplay in HUT they'd probably just remove everything else from the game completely
Ive played as a bronze team against stacked 90+ teams it would be hard because my guys would get injured or destroyed but i would beat them.. Johnny is right about the overalls being almost meaningless
Lol Johnny just wrecked anyone who disagreed with him.
2BCProductions UH OH Johnny yer boy BaconCountry is calling u out today! He is clearly opposing MOST of your tests as NG... i have to agree with you on most of your points u made in this video< however the skating speed test i do agree with BaconCountry that Base Crosby is only a 90 skating overall and john Scott is actually an 82 which is only 8 differance between and anymore then 11ft gap would chance ruining the game!! My opinion is 11 feet is more then enough to deke around break clear enough to have a one on one breakaway with the goalie and to tuck that biscuit :)
This is why i brought carbon copy 15 aka nhl 15 for the 360