@Rallan Yep, you clearly have not read it. Article 16 allows for the suspension of parts of the protocol and triggers negotiations that aim to resolve the particular issue as soon as possible. It does not allow for the protocol to be scrapped altogether. That would be breaking an international agreement that Boris Johnson hailed as his "oven ready" deal that he won an election on. An agreement that his freshly elected 80 strong majority all voted for. Sorry mate, Boris threw NI under his brexit bus and then sold the whole thing down the river. :D :D But hey, you won, you should get over it.
Let’s look at the facts Loyalist’s voted for Brexit, we warned them this would happen. We told them there would need to be checks, and their response was “hard border in Ireland”. We told them that wasn’t going to happen as it was against the good Friday agreement and they said “well then we’ll solve it with technology”. We told them the technology didn’t exist and they still carried on because they believed it would result in a hard border in Ireland. Now the same loyalists want us to feel sorry for them because they’ve been sold down the river by a Tory government. That’s not going to happen, you made your bed now you can lay in it.
@Rallan You are correct that is why it is UK law. Johnson went to all that trouble to get it is passed. You won get over it, you were told this would happen, lol guess what it happened??? You are angry with the EU/Ireland for tell you what would happen, not who lied to you????
@DEx Stev I've never heard that, and I've known a few. British is what the NI peoples I've known have referred to themselves as, as this video seems to demonstrate. The UK gov, and English people in general, don't understand or even care about NI or the GFA. They've never been affected by it. These facts make it all even more hilariously sad..
You’re so naive.. do you think that Dublin is falling over themselves to see how loves the Northern Catholics more? They’re not. If London doesn’t care about Belfast, neither does Dublin. Get your double standards in check
@@SerBallister That is very true mate ... the amount of times before the vote i got told not to spread project fear over this issue ..... It seem like NI was a government afterthought
Well, as a proud citizen of EU member state I can say: Not our problem anymore, let them have fun dealing with all of those 'unpredictable' results of Brexit that they were told and warned about
@ISTHEBLMSkank DeadYet? change the record all the over 60 in Ireland are vaccinated and we're in the EU while once again boris is thinking about ignoring the health professionals advice and ignoring delta.
It may be the reality right now, but there is no saying things can’t change. The position of Ireland is always shifting, and I’m sure it will come out positively eventually.
The problem with the young man at the beginning is that he doesn't understand his own identity, he claims that his identity is linked to flags, and Britishness, but then can't live in a united Ireland. So his identity is not linked to symbols but territory.
They don't really have an identity,when you ask them to describe their culture,they struggle to go beyond bonfires(which came from Irish culture) and marching to celebrate a Dutch's Kings victory. They don't even know the 12th is about the Battle of Aughrim. Love your videos btw,keep up the good work!
I thinks its more based on Protestant and Catholic identity, not Irish identity. He feels proud to be grouped with his same religion people rather than same blood people.
Unionists are stuck in a Nostalgic Depression. Compared to the rest of the UK and the Republic, NI feels like that person who never left their hometown; every time you see them, all they do is reminisce on stuff that happened years ago...
Max, if I may offer my own perspective, I have watched several of your videos on the situation in Northern Ireland, and you always seem unwilling to acknowledge the colonial aspect of the conflict. The young man in the beginning is heavily invested in a British identity because the Protestant community is almost exclusively descended from settler colonists from Britain who settled Ulster in order to bolster English and later British control of the island. To him and other likeminded Ulster Protestants, being British means having a privileged status (especially in comparison to Irish people) as a colonial elite, and being the tip of the spear of physical force British rule in Ireland. It’s no coincidence that loyalists tend to show solidarity with other settler colonial projects like Israel or Apartheid South Africa, whereas Irish nationalists tend to show solidarity with other colonized societies like Palestine. Of course, you and I both know that Ulster Protestants will be allowed to live freely and wave the British flag should Ireland unite, and I suspect many of them do too. They’re in no danger of being exterminated or treated as second class citizens like they themselves did to Irish people for centuries. The real issue for them is losing their current elevated status they enjoy under British rule. Under the Northern Ireland Protocol, the inhabitants of Northern Ireland are already more united with the Republic than with the UK; they already have a taste of what life under Irish rule would be. However, what will be gone is their Protestant supremacy.
@@TheKalihiMan Its the protestants in the south that really expose the true colours of loyalists. They have been screaming at loyalists for decades that they are treated equally,but loyalists refuse to listen to them,they have been brainwashed by their politicians,who know their livelihoods depend upon making sure loyalists live in fear.
@Halli Day And the dup supporters will lap it up and continue to believe its all someone else's fault. But at least brexit will lead to a united Ireland and an independent Scotland 🇮🇪 🇪🇺
Well, the question was to exit the EU, not how to achieve that. So people could simply dream of the solution they wanted to see. They should have asked a second question not just stay or leave, but if you choose leave how: a) remain in European free market b) create a customs border in the Irish sea c) create a border in Ireland. It would force people to think and make clear that if you leave it comes with some though choices. Now people are complaining they didn't get the Brexit they wanted, but nobody asked what kind of Brexit people wanted
@@royaloakstudios6022 You should ask the world when Trump was in power. Not everyone hates america, but every one hates trump and the Taliban. Or what you like to call it, the republican party.
Catholics and protestants are living side-by-side in almost every European country without issues. The vast majority of Irish and Northern Irish population wants that as well, but a small number of angry dudes are standing in the way.
Well the basic problem of divide and rule has been invented by British. Rather than accepting the differences, they were expert at smirking at the differences. And the result today is these.
@@neilkamalseal3413 I respect your opinion, but I don't think you are being very constructive. As with any conflict, I think it's important to leave grievances and blame behind and focus on building long-lasting peace.
Catholics and Protestants live side by side without any issues at all in the Republic of Ireland too, I can tell you. The problem is these working class loyalists in Northern Ireland - where are the parents of the teenagers who were rioting a few months ago? Always the lowest of society are quickest to follow a flag or religion because they can’t look inside themselves and think how can I improve myself BY myself.
Religion is not the problem, in NI it is just used as an identifier for which camp you belong to and this othering is the real problem, so many people dont get this.
@@erwinhun I am not registering any grievance my friend. I know present day Brits are not responsible for these things and I am not blaming them either. But what's wrong is wrong and the inventor should be pointed out to set as an example what not to be. The past generation of humans created such methods to control the masses which were mainly focussed on greed for resources, which is still taking a huge toll on the current generation of humans. Look at the world, all the religious tensions, all the political gambling and all the biased views today aren't they direct result of nasty and desperate imperialism mainly lusted and funded by royals or political leaders??? The same royals and leaders who did wars for their sake and we as common people suffered everywhere. Thats why I wanna urge to everyone to leave the identity of our older generation. Forget all divisions and respect each other as equal. As i mentioned earlier I do not blame the present day brits for everything. But I see some who feel proud of their older generation for their deeds and worship their ideals. So, for those people, I wanna point my finger at these things where they went wrong. And you can understand the depth of their wrongdoings when you see that one or one and half century has passed after all major world incidents yet the divisions are as it is, the violences are as it is and still we are fighting against each other with same age old ideas. And precisely for those reasons , I wanna tell the people of today's generation that what you believe seperates you, that very idea has been planted in the public to seperate and rule us by the lords of those times. They became ashes and ghosts yet surprisingly their seperating ideals are still poisoning the minds, generation by generation. So please I urge people to leave the previous generation pride and do something worth in our times and create your own pride.
@@billcipherproductions1789 look at the comments from British people, they said when you burn your streets down The British tax payers are not footing the bill. Can’t blame them. You wanted brexit you got it live with it.
@@jean-lucpicard6261 You and OP seem to want to believe that if someone only knew the chaos, suffering and destruction that would be caused they wouldn't start the action. That anyone starting or advocating must be naive. But *THAT* is a naive position to take. Some people believe it's justified and others just want to see the world burn. Joel knows, he hangs out with a militia ffs, one filled with men involved in the last round of violence 22 years ago. Both sides know better than most in these comments what's coming and the only place it can go. They're well aware, but they want their pound of flesh.
@@ThePSmokePersonally I don't agree with burning other countries flags but are you aware that Catholic Nationalists in Northern Ireland have used St Paddy's day as an excuse to get drunk and play sectarian music against Protestant Unionists; yet it's supposed to be a religious holiday for everyone to celebrate...? St Paddy's day is supposed to celebrate St Patrick spreading Christianity which is now a global celebration, but instead Nationalists use it as a day to poke fun at Protestants. (I know because I have Catholic friends who've done exactly that whilst I'm there with them feeling awkward and uncomfortable). Looking at how the 11/12th July celebration happened, no matter what king would have won the battle of the Boyne, either way the day would still be celebrated. It's not a day for only one side to celebrate, Catholics have just chosen to take a disliking to it.
@@NorthernIrishman it isn't right for them to treat the Protestants the same way many Protestant Loyalists have treated them. I attended 11th/12th celebrations in Kilkeel a few years ago, and with their efforts to be family friendly they did not have Tricolours on their bonfire. They also avoided sectarian banners, though someone did sneak in a couple of UVF flags on a pole on the edge of town. I enjoyed it. But most of their music, unless it reflects their Ulster-Scot traditions, is still terrible.
@@ThePSmoke I've never seen the UVF flag before, or at least I haven't cared enough to ever acknowledge it because they're paramilitaries. I didn't even know they had a flag but I suppose you learn something new everyday.
Unionism has had 100 years to make a UK welcoming and fare for all, instead they made it hostile and unwelcome for Irish nationalist Catholics, and that is why a United Ireland is the only answer, unionism hasn't worked and never will
@@Victoryinourstars We can handle it, we can pay a re-unification tax like how West Germany did for East Germany. When the poverty stricken communities up north have employment and a future they will slowly realise which country cares about them.
@@Victoryinourstars We have to try something, the status quo has failed both communities. I feel like it's the Republic's turn to govern for 100 years (if that's how the majority of Northerners vote)
Protestant and catholics are roughly 50 50 of the population, so give 3 counties to the Republic and leave 3 with the UK, the protestants and Catholics on the minority side exchange populations.
@@tomaszzalewski4541 If there is open conflict then border will be back where it used to be and it will be as big as the palestinian border also the Republic of Ireland can say goodbye to there trade?
@@billlot5329 What "...open conflict..."? For whom? The Loyalist paramilitaries are not a military threat. Their experienced people are all pensioners at this stage. The Police Service of Northern Ireland(PSNI) is well able for them.
Exactly, Apart from move to uk, Loyalists will always be welcome they are actually Irish as well. But a united Ireland has to happen makes me feel sick that we're still not free. So all that fighting and blood for nothing. 🇮🇪🇮🇪TAL
Well reuniting Ireland right now would cripple republic of Ireland economy. Ireland is growing and has potential to be super rich but the British pumps a lot of money into NI which Ireland will have to pick up on.
@@kakashihatake326 Money can be made, but the nation's sovereignty shall not be compromised. British empire days are long gone, there are other alternatives to solve the money problem. Look to the East.
Why can't they be protestant in a united Ireland? Scotland which is where their ancestors came from voted to remain in the EU as, as did Northern Ireland. Being in Ireland/having Irish citizenship doesen't prevent the Ulster Scots from having a British/protestant identity. Just like German Namibians still hold on to their German identity.
Because their whole identity is based upon sectarian supremacy. It's THAT they are fighting against loosing...a fight they're going to loose regardless as times have moved on.
They identify so strongly with flags because they have nothing else going for them. They need decent jobs. A United Ireland is guaranteed at this stage, just a matter of time, but it will be a united Ireland of equals not sectarian domination that they have become accustomed to.
Because religion does make a difference, protestants and catholics may have opposing interests from eachother and would make the protestants a minority
@@europauniversalis1860 It was never about religion. The british dressed it up as a sectarian conflict. The conflict it between the colonizer/British/Anglo Saxons versus the indigenous irish Gaelic/Celt. Difference might be subtle to you but it effectively a germanic clan versus one of the oldest cultures and tribes of people still existent on this earth
funny you should mention that, I spoke to a good few Indians and Sri Lankans in conversation they told me that they wished both countries were still in the British empire, they hated the present corruption, and state-dirt of the place there was order in the Empire... Ireland although it was misruled by England went into terminal decline after independence and had to give up what was left of its sovereignty to join the EU.
@@jimcazador6057 That's a fanciful representation of events. It would be more accurate to say that the UK was in terminal decline (being referred to as the sick man of Europe) till it finally managed to join the EU. And now, out of the EU again, the sickness and terminal decline are back.
@@sudhakarswain8241 that is what the indians are best in carrying & polishing cannon balls, should let the British colonise them for another 100 years.since they love them so much.
Ha. Someone yelling TAL over the fence. They're "British" and I'm a cat. Meow, meow! Irish soil, Irish people! All the problems there are due to British colonialism and the world knows it.
They are like bad guests that steal your stuff then refuse to leave. After the border poll the British visitors can integrate or hop on the Stena. See how the actual Brits (the ones from Britain) tolerate the bigotry & fleg culture. Might get on alright in some parts of Glasgow but most Brits cringe seeing their antics.
@Rallan I'm an Irish citizen and I will have my vote. Unionists will get theirs. Bigots need to move on or move out. I saw your comments in another thread, got your number pal. Do you speak for "the people of NI" ? The people of NI voted remain, did ye cop that 5 years ago? Anyway UK majority is what counts, so hope you celebrated back then Now you can suck up Westminster's (UK) agreements. Protocol is here to stay. Are you? There is a right comfortable ferry.
@Rallan just seen your other comment 🤡 you are a clown. Show this to the law and they will laugh tou out of the place. Maybe see if the British army will take you seriously. Send in the SAS? 💩 Go on give us another.
Let's not forget that the DUP was in a coalition with the conservatives and likely helped with much of the negotiations and plans of brexit. Now that they got exactly what they voted for, they aren't happy. Totally absurd
Exactly. The absence of a border between NI and the Irish republic was obviously a crucial point that enabled the Good Friday Agreement, and the DUP's support for Brexit was, basically, an attempted finger in the eye of NI nationalists, with the DUP being enthusiastic about taking away from the nationalists one of the core things that allowed them to agree to that historic deal in 1998. Well, it turns out that the DUP's finger was actually a finger in their own eye.
Let's not forget the DUP is the only political force who didn't agree the good friday agreement. They were perfectly fine living with violence, and peoples dying.
@@justhowgoo752 yep he’s right. Boris sold his own people out, what makes you think your so special. The British people are waking up. They said when you burn your streets pay for it yourself, because the British taxpayers is not footing the bill.
@@roseanne9986 The British people would never abandon us. We are as motivated as anyone to build this country of ours to a fully sovereign nation. May Great Britain once again rule the waves. To give up Northern Ireland makes no sense in my mind. The only reason is probably to get this hole brexit thing a smoth start and the hearts of the people, but even this seems to have backfired. I’m no politician, but I choose to believe this mistake would be rectified. Let’s be in charge of our own future again and never choose to be ruled over again.
How do you mean rejects them? Britain has not withdrawn from Ireland, therefore they have not been rejected. I do hope though that post British occupation in our reunified Irish republuc that Britain will help the resettlement of unhappy unionists into Britain if they wish that.
@@OhEidirsceoil by "reject" I mean that London has no concern for loyalism. The question is therefore, will they accept the move towards unification or will the commit violence? There seems to be a level of paranoia in the loyalist community which is sort of irrational. They seems to be fighting the shadows.
The problem is that unionists celebrating "who they are", need to find a different identity than that of oppressor. That includes ending the Orange marches through republican neighbourhoods.
That’s like saying the Germans should change their identity and culture just because of ww2 lol last time I checked the Irish also hold marches outside of Protestant churches and unionist neighbours
@@doom1894 Um, are you serious? Yes, Germans completely overhauled their politics, identity and culture because of ww2. Have you paid any attention to post-WW2 German culture and identity? Good grief. I don't think I've ever heard of Republican marches in NI. But if they do, certainly they should stop them too. The religious wars have to stop. Calling it part of your culture isn't an excuse.
This poor boy is lead by the wrong people. He doesn't understand what he is talking about and will make the wrong decisions. Hope he gets a grip of himself and will understand that others have a voice too.
Joel is adorable. Also, as an American this seems like such a silly waste of time. Why can’t a United Ireland honor the British Ancestry and contributions of Protestant Northern Irish? Truth be told. The British did what the Chinese are doing to Tibet. The Chinese are encouraging their people (Han) to migrate over to another land to colonize it and change the demographics. The English did this to Ireland hundreds of years gone. The Protestants need to accept that they are Irish now and not British. Just like my ancestors were British and now I’m American. They are standing on Irish soil and the Irish will unite eventually.
The earliest recorded inhabitants of Northern Ireland were the Cruthin - the Ancient Britons. So to try and say Northern Ireland’s relationship with the British is colonial is ridiculous.
@@fyrdman2185 seems to have been the attitude for Britain and my ancestors for a long time. Irish Catholics who live on this island (opinion disregarded) Eventually, she’ll have to stand alone without her toys. Just a tiny nation with an interesting history. Scotland will leave, Northern Ireland will leave and Wales (likely). I love England and Ireland and their common shared history but killing people over this is silly. Like the Tudor dynasty killing Protestants and Catholics. It’s just a continuation of that ridiculousness. At this point England is fighting over crumbs of her empire and as a descendent of the empire it’s just a bit sad. Time to go gracefully into the night and be the right sized England, for the English you were meant to be.
Bojo and the Tories will not pay heed to Loyalist demands in the coming years. I wonder what the Unionists are going to do then. Resort to more violence to get their voices heard, only for their actions to cause self-harm to themselves and the society around them, while Westminster carries on lazing about, doing what it does best, looking after its own interests.
The Scotts choice twice to be part of The UK. In your jingoism you ignore as many people want to remain in the UK as don't. Look how diversive Brexit was. Just over a quarter of the population of The UK (17.4 million) got more say over the majority who didn't vote for Brexit. The independence vote is getting more air play but no poll has ever suggested its the majority view. Scotland is free. You are where you are because as a country you choice it. I didn't want Brexit but I've had to live with it. You only get one say if you vote out.
Hmm. The Good Friday agreement is clear both sides require a referendum for unification before it can happen. And do you see any serious political discussion in Ireland for this? What Catholics want is unlikely to happen. For me sadly but that's the reality.
Just for any of you that don’t know the people on the island of Ireland claiming to British are correct but they won’t tell you that came through their ancestors being settlers of that Ireland on direct orders from the English monarch in the 1700s
@@billcipherproductions1789 But the northern irish did not want any border...and even those loyalitst now are deeply felt betrayed by Westminster. Any solution for that???
Personally, I was neutral on the question of Northern Ireland. I’ve been a supporter of Scottish Independence, but that’s completely distinct from the issues relating to Northern Ireland. Our push for independence has always been about progress, equality and justice; whilst providing opportunities for young people that have been depraved and mismanaged by Westminster. In Northern Ireland, it was often more a question of identity rather than anything to do with pragmatism, fairness and future. Regardless of the side of the debate. However, you only need to start paying attention to the current debate and see exactly what’s at play here: A United Ireland which fundamentally works better for the island’s economy, political systems and is able to address the British Neglect of Unionist Neighbourhoods - by investing in them, despite being majority British. Where the SOLE counter arguments is that the “Catholics” will take our identity and oppress us; when no one is advocating for that, let alone all the non-catholics living in the Republic. Issues surrounding things like the NHS have already been reconciled with Irish Politicians agreeing to maintain it with unification. Or keeping Northern Ireland British, further neglecting these neighbourhoods, creating more division and damaging the North’s economy leading to further escalations. There is no valid reason for anyone to argue that this is somehow the better option anymore. There is no longer a “status-quo” everything has changed and will continue to change; in its current direction, that change is net-negative for everyone involved - Scottish or Northern Irish.
U prob think Nicola is queen Sheba,so your opinion is irrelevant and no wonder u support a united ireland just like you support open borders for Scotland
@@johnmcdonald9295 Oh look, a 3 month old vacant RUclips channel with only 2 comments and a “like” history consisting of political videos being active for a grand total of 4 hours. Try to be less obvious with your Unionist Bot account next time…
@@dan-860 and? Most nations and nation states didn't exist in their current form until the late 1800s or later. Doesn't make a movement for self determination any more or less valid.
@@dan-860 Yes it did. One legal system (Brehon Laws) & one shared Gaelic social structure,and one language & belief system. Just because it was a stateless society does not mean it was not one country/culture.
Well it was Ireland for Millenniums. It was illigally annexed by the UK. Its Indigenous people thrown of their land. The poorest areas seem to be the most staunch! 🙄
Is this young man and his friends employed or on the dole? If the latter, the money is coming from the English taxpayer. Living in public housing? The money is coming from the English tax payer. Using the NHS? The money is coming from the English taxpayer. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!
Jerry it is much worse than that. I am from the Republic and NI is an economic and political wasteland. It costs the UK taxpayer 11 billion a year. You guys pay for EVERYTHING!!! As an Irish taxpayer I am more than welcome for you to keep on funding it.
@Honest Internet User That is called the present. ps "faught" is Cajun slang for fart. Is that what you intended to say? I'm happy with either meaning.
When i worked abroad, i had a drink with some Irish guys, all of us got along pretty well. Then they said, if their family and friends at home would know about them hanging out together, they could get into real trouble, because they belonged to the different factions. I still think about that sometimes and it's quite depressing. That was 11 years ago, nothing changed i guess?
How do you expect to achieve an all Ireland with that language? Besides, it’s well known that Ulster Catholics are lazy gits and that it’s Protestants have the work ethic
Why do they always go around the estates and interview muppets? Most of the time the majority don't give a toss. Try and stay out of Belfast or derry/londonderry and watch the views change
If Westminster lacks competency in implementing the NI Protocol (which they signed as part of the Brexit agreement), then it makes more sense for the island of Ireland to be one country. The borders would be much simpler than the status quo, and the people of Ireland can finally be united.
Sorry but the majority of people living in northern Ireland want to stay for now. Its not really colonialism when they can leave when they want and the uk gov really wouldn’t mind if they left.
@@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight northern ireland can leave when it wants. They want to be part of the uk. You obviously don’t know jack about the troubles
@@oj3458 The U.S should quash all remaining vestiges of Brtiish imperialism, Wales, Scotland, independent should be freed, Ireland united, Gibraltar given back to the Spanish, and the Falklands rightfully handed over to Argentina.
@Tony Montana like i said it's because most English people don't even know English history let alone the complicated history of Northern Ireland. Anyway it doesn't change the fact that the protestants there are ethnically British.
@@bradavon I actually would, if i disliked it enough. It's not like they are leaving the country. Think of it this way: If I was american and hated how my state is run, why not move to another state? Unless, of course, deep down you know that you are different and would't belong. Which frankly seems to be the case here. They want to be british, they see themselves as british, but deep down they know they aren't.
@Big Rah I mean, you can want a lot of things, but if your need for change becomes so bad that you end up resolving to violence, then maybe you should really think about moving instead
Johnson negotiated a deal with the EU, had it approved by parliament and immediately reneged on it. Is any new deal worth the paper it's written on? BoJo the Clown doesn't know whether he's coming or going.
This puts serious doubts on when this kid was on TV last time, saying he wasn't part of the vandals, but was just helping a friend..... seems very...... doubtfull now
Lol. The RUclips speech recognition algorithm has accomplished an amazing job in making me finally understand what’s all about here. 0:22 “For hundreds of years, people in Ulster have fought for the Romanian part of the Kingdom.” Now that all Romanians have been kicked out after Brexit, I can see how people in Ulster are understandably pissed off.
To the Unionists in Northern Ireland: Please do not use the Welsh National Flag to promote your misguided treachery of Ireland. WE DO NOT SUPPORT YOU!! 🏴💓🇮🇪
The thing is that Joel is wrong about having it both ways, both part of the UK and part of a United Ireland. That is exactly what they had before Brexit. That any political party chose to support Brexit is nothing short of arson.
Unionists campaigned for Brexit because they truly believed that there would end up a border at Newry and got one at Larne instead… backfired so badly and it can’t be fixed
A break up of the UK (with Wales still being a member) will work out ridiculously well for us English as both Scotland and Northern Ireland as net beneficiaries of the Union. We'd actually be saving ourselves millions of it happened. Maybe even making some off the tariffs applied to imports.
It's still baffles me as to how hurt they feel, confused and for the first time ever in unionism , being an underdog, as they stated we thought to keep us British, why did you fight for, o yeah , the right to have the power to do what yous wanted?, a forever fight to empower your settlement on another's land, and a 12th of July, or that day of intimidation and bigotry, but be offended if we want to have an Irish language act in Ireland? Rip the city Hall to bits because a flag wasn't going to be an all year rounder? Always saying are culture is being damaged ? I have protestant friends, and I say the same to them, about the culture!!! And the same thing said 99.9% of the time. Us all getting together around a bonnie fire , celebrating having a bit of crack. Watching the parades go buy. Making it sound so innocent, and yes in there eyes it is? I'm sure they all are having the time of there lives. But how ever ! In a nationalist/ catholic side , all that crack comes with a very very big meaning in are expense, with there 12th being a victory , in there eyes a reminder of how we got here and why we're still here , bone fire stack against all health and safety measures , just to become a beacon of intimidation, to be sure that its not just seen but to feel its presence? Orange order a mid evil fraternity, only created to ensure that ORDER was to be inplace, an anti catholic organisation, way before the times of the troubles, but what culture ? Who makes a culture from bigotry! Know how you no it is, Scotland don't get on like it, Welsh Don't either , but why protestants , I'll tell you why, because the North of Ireland, Scotland and Wales are ball and chained by the same same tax collector, and ruler, so the Irish, Scots and Welsh don't get on bigoted, and don't deface every lamp post and curbs , it's funny how Welsh, Scots and Irish is a celtic form of language, its more like a united kingdom of control. Ur British up sessed because of the freedom of control you were giving, right up till the 90,s and since power sharing came into effect, you keep mistaken your so called culture being damaged for something that wasn't yours being shared or giving back.
We're reasonable people, we don't incite hatred - so what if we offend the vast majority of people in Ireland by lighting bonfires every year, burning Irish flags to mark an ancient victory. Not as ancient as the dinosaurs, mind you.
Everyone knows that the dinosaurs were here only last week. The entire universe is about 6,000 years old... EDIT; I have to point out that I am channeling the DUP worldview here...
@@quackatoa6105 Do you mean Northern Ireland, which was, last time I checked, still PART OF THE UK? The Republic of Ireland(RoI) has been engaged in damage control long before the British got around to announcing the date of their idiotic referendum. Sorry, but we're not going to set light to ourselves to make you happy. No reason why we should, really....
My relatives in Dublin would never want a 32-county Ireland. For them, it would mean higher taxes over many decades, just like it did in Germany. Why do you think the south koreans don't do it ?
I have wondered about this. NI has fallen way behind the Republic economically, and policing/administration in NI is not exactly ... easy. Is the appetite for reunification wanning within the Republic electorate? There seems to be very little practical upside. (And you're wrong about S. Korea, the public is overwhelmingly in favor of reunification no matter the economic costs, the problem is the N. Korean government likes being power and has nuclear weapons)
Thats an area by the docks that is a pedestrian walk area, also where kids cycle and skate. So he was just doing what every kid and tourist for that matter does
Karma, if in the past your ancestors traveled all over the world to disturb the people's nation, now their descendants are disturbed due to the greed of your ancestors.
South Africa had to give control to the majority as part of a democracy with positive and negative effects. The UK supported that. So maybe the people of NI should accept this as hard as it is. They are still technically British. Get on with life.
@@dan-860 thats like saying Western Cape should to be a seperate white state of south africa. The majority of people in western cape )would probably like that. Its not an option, so they get on with life. Its not like NI is a thriving Brittish colony. It seems to contain the poorest towns of Ireland. So not sure why they have allegiance to a UK goverment that does not really care.
@@mangs9940 why shouldn’t it be an option? Why should their self determination of the Afrikaaner people be refused just so they’re forced in an artificial state. The same goes with Ulster Protestants, why should their self determination be ignored due to some arbitrary irredentist claim from the southz
Do they really thing the English care about them? It’s hilarious. Much like Scotland. They wouldn’t want to see their cash makers seceding now would they?
@@seanefc4064 Republican victory then, only thing the Loyalist paramilitaries were good at was killing civilians, the Provisional IRA was the most feared and effective terror organisation in the world until it's ceasefire and eventual stand down. To quote a British Major after the Derryard checkpoint assault "Cowards? They are murdering bastards but the Provisionals are not cowards, to advance underfire and to press home an attack on fortified positions with rifles and grenades takes bravery, coordination and the training I would expect of professional soldiers"
Interestingly the red hand is actually an ancient Gaelic symbol that the unionist community appropriated, it was the sigil of the O’Neill dynasty who were one of the last Gaelic clans to fight against English rule.
It’s originally the ancient clan symbol of my family actually. Red hand clan O’Neills, Hugh O’Neill is my ancestor, and we are gealic catholic always have been 😅 so the unionists using it it is both hilarious and leaves a taste of bitterness.
It’s originally the ancient clan symbol of my family actually. Red hand clan O’Neills and we are catholic always have been 😅 so the unionists using it it is both hilarious and leaves a taste of bitterness.
Oh look, that thing everyone said would happen is happening.
@Rallan You clearly haven't read article 16.
Project fear 😆
@Rallan Yep, you clearly have not read it.
Article 16 allows for the suspension of parts of the protocol and triggers negotiations that aim to resolve the particular issue as soon as possible.
It does not allow for the protocol to be scrapped altogether. That would be breaking an international agreement that Boris Johnson hailed as his "oven ready" deal that he won an election on. An agreement that his freshly elected 80 strong majority all voted for.
Sorry mate, Boris threw NI under his brexit bus and then sold the whole thing down the river. :D :D But hey, you won, you should get over it.
Let’s look at the facts Loyalist’s voted for Brexit, we warned them this would happen. We told them there would need to be checks, and their response was “hard border in Ireland”. We told them that wasn’t going to happen as it was against the good Friday agreement and they said “well then we’ll solve it with technology”. We told them the technology didn’t exist and they still carried on because they believed it would result in a hard border in Ireland. Now the same loyalists want us to feel sorry for them because they’ve been sold down the river by a Tory government. That’s not going to happen, you made your bed now you can lay in it.
@Rallan You are correct that is why it is UK law. Johnson went to all that trouble to get it is passed. You won get over it, you were told this would happen, lol guess what it happened??? You are angry with the EU/Ireland for tell you what would happen, not who lied to you????
English think they're English, Welsh think they're Welsh, Scottish think they're Scottish. Only northern Irish think they're british. Its hillariously sad.
🤣 Even Westminster refer to them as "the Irish"
I don't get it everyone refers to them as irish.
@DEx Stev I've never heard that, and I've known a few. British is what the NI peoples I've known have referred to themselves as, as this video seems to demonstrate. The UK gov, and English people in general, don't understand or even care about NI or the GFA. They've never been affected by it. These facts make it all even more hilariously sad..
Most English view themselves as British
Are we in 2021 or 1021?
Loyalists start to learn that England Tories don’t give a damn about them. Never did ! Must be painful to see how misplaced their loyalty was.
You’re so naive.. do you think that Dublin is falling over themselves to see how loves the Northern Catholics more? They’re not. If London doesn’t care about Belfast, neither does Dublin. Get your double standards in check
@@seansweeney8911 agreed. It's scary how ironic it all is
yeah the irish republic is a centralised staate the uk has a decent amont of somthing called federalism
@@seansweeney8911 as a matter of fact, yes. Dublin cares about every one of its citizens even in occupied lands.
The republic of Ireland can't afford us and don't want us either.
1:52 ... 'you can't have both ... you can't be part of Ireland AND UK together."
In the EU, you could. Remember?
Remember, England is the leader
in the eu ther where part of the uk .....
they could if ireland rejoins britain but thatis very unlikly
well I mean technically they weren't part of Ireland even before Brexit. Or is Germany now part of France as well?
Huh, being under the influence of either France or Germany at any given time? That's a brilliant idea!
This youngster is not old enough to understand the serious nature of violence. I hope he does not find out.
What he's looking for is rational. If he's doomed, why not go out in glory?
@@unnecessaryapostrophe4047 What he's looking for is rationale, but he isn't going to find it with a top 6 inches already that poisoned.
@@bremCZ Why should he not fight?
true
unofrtunately there are old men who think the same
This was totally predicted by everyone else except the British even before the Brexit referendum was held.
It was predicted by a lot of British too, they got accused of spreading fear and being negative.
@@SerBallister That is very true mate ... the amount of times before the vote i got told not to spread project fear over this issue ..... It seem like NI was a government afterthought
Well, as a proud citizen of EU member state I can say: Not our problem anymore, let them have fun dealing with all of those 'unpredictable' results of Brexit that they were told and warned about
It didn't take a genius to guess what could happen in northern Ireland post Brexit just shows what cabbages Brexiteers are.
@ISTHEBLMSkank DeadYet? change the record all the over 60 in Ireland are vaccinated and we're in the EU while once again boris is thinking about ignoring the health professionals advice and ignoring delta.
Sorry Joel. Hoping you reconcile with reality sooner rather than later
It may be the reality right now, but there is no saying things can’t change. The position of Ireland is always shifting, and I’m sure it will come out positively eventually.
@borntobemild leave the kid alone…he’s entitled to say how he feels..
@borntobemild clowns up where ?
The problem with the young man at the beginning is that he doesn't understand his own identity, he claims that his identity is linked to flags, and Britishness, but then can't live in a united Ireland. So his identity is not linked to symbols but territory.
They don't really have an identity,when you ask them to describe their culture,they struggle to go beyond bonfires(which came from Irish culture) and marching to celebrate a Dutch's Kings victory.
They don't even know the 12th is about the Battle of Aughrim. Love your videos btw,keep up the good work!
I thinks its more based on Protestant and Catholic identity, not Irish identity. He feels proud to be grouped with his same religion people rather than same blood people.
Unionists are stuck in a Nostalgic Depression. Compared to the rest of the UK and the Republic, NI feels like that person who never left their hometown; every time you see them, all they do is reminisce on stuff that happened years ago...
Max, if I may offer my own perspective, I have watched several of your videos on the situation in Northern Ireland, and you always seem unwilling to acknowledge the colonial aspect of the conflict. The young man in the beginning is heavily invested in a British identity because the Protestant community is almost exclusively descended from settler colonists from Britain who settled Ulster in order to bolster English and later British control of the island. To him and other likeminded Ulster Protestants, being British means having a privileged status (especially in comparison to Irish people) as a colonial elite, and being the tip of the spear of physical force British rule in Ireland. It’s no coincidence that loyalists tend to show solidarity with other settler colonial projects like Israel or Apartheid South Africa, whereas Irish nationalists tend to show solidarity with other colonized societies like Palestine.
Of course, you and I both know that Ulster Protestants will be allowed to live freely and wave the British flag should Ireland unite, and I suspect many of them do too. They’re in no danger of being exterminated or treated as second class citizens like they themselves did to Irish people for centuries. The real issue for them is losing their current elevated status they enjoy under British rule. Under the Northern Ireland Protocol, the inhabitants of Northern Ireland are already more united with the Republic than with the UK; they already have a taste of what life under Irish rule would be. However, what will be gone is their Protestant supremacy.
@@TheKalihiMan Its the protestants in the south that really expose the true colours of loyalists.
They have been screaming at loyalists for decades that they are treated equally,but loyalists refuse to listen to them,they have been brainwashed by their politicians,who know their livelihoods depend upon making sure loyalists live in fear.
Betrayed by the British . Who would have thunk it ..the loyalist forgot the British invented the act of throwing people under the bus 🤣🤣😂😂
@Halli Day the European Union didn't get out of the untied kingdom, the reverse happened
British betrayal?! No never that could never happen..
Just ask my Palestinian, polish, native American, aboriginal Australian friends..
@@maryam4680 talking rubbish
@Halli Day And the dup supporters will lap it up and continue to believe its all someone else's fault. But at least brexit will lead to a united Ireland and an independent Scotland 🇮🇪 🇪🇺
@@markgallagher5908 a free Scotland id defo say there's a chance but a united ireland I doubt.
I can't believe that so many pro-Brexit people didn't see this coming.
they did, they just DID NOT GIVE A FLYING FU$%!!!THEY STILL DONT!!!
Bro. Northern Ireland was the last thing people worried about when they voted for Brexit, I can guarantee you.
@@ev.c6 you nailed it ,either then or now and they cant see this
Well, the question was to exit the EU, not how to achieve that. So people could simply dream of the solution they wanted to see. They should have asked a second question not just stay or leave, but if you choose leave how: a) remain in European free market b) create a customs border in the Irish sea c) create a border in Ireland. It would force people to think and make clear that if you leave it comes with some though choices. Now people are complaining they didn't get the Brexit they wanted, but nobody asked what kind of Brexit people wanted
Because Brexit use the perspective of English not Irish or Scottish or Welsh. The non-English just need to follow what English want
"We are total, rock-solid supporters of the British government. Oh, by the way -- we can't stand them!"
You can love a country and hate a government. Ask any conservative American right now.
@@royaloakstudios6022 a conservative American ther is nothing but conservative Americans lol
They see it as loyalty to the crown rather than the government.
@@royaloakstudios6022 You should ask the world when Trump was in power. Not everyone hates america, but every one hates trump and the Taliban. Or what you like to call it, the republican party.
@@TheLastAngryMan01 Disloyal to Ireland ungrateful Ulster Scots
Catholics and protestants are living side-by-side in almost every European country without issues. The vast majority of Irish and Northern Irish population wants that as well, but a small number of angry dudes are standing in the way.
Well the basic problem of divide and rule has been invented by British. Rather than accepting the differences, they were expert at smirking at the differences. And the result today is these.
@@neilkamalseal3413 I respect your opinion, but I don't think you are being very constructive. As with any conflict, I think it's important to leave grievances and blame behind and focus on building long-lasting peace.
Catholics and Protestants live side by side without any issues at all in the Republic of Ireland too, I can tell you. The problem is these working class loyalists in Northern Ireland - where are the parents of the teenagers who were rioting a few months ago? Always the lowest of society are quickest to follow a flag or religion because they can’t look inside themselves and think how can I improve myself BY myself.
Religion is not the problem, in NI it is just used as an identifier for which camp you belong to and this othering is the real problem, so many people dont get this.
@@erwinhun I am not registering any grievance my friend. I know present day Brits are not responsible for these things and I am not blaming them either. But what's wrong is wrong and the inventor should be pointed out to set as an example what not to be. The past generation of humans created such methods to control the masses which were mainly focussed on greed for resources, which is still taking a huge toll on the current generation of humans. Look at the world, all the religious tensions, all the political gambling and all the biased views today aren't they direct result of nasty and desperate imperialism mainly lusted and funded by royals or political leaders??? The same royals and leaders who did wars for their sake and we as common people suffered everywhere.
Thats why I wanna urge to everyone to leave the identity of our older generation. Forget all divisions and respect each other as equal. As i mentioned earlier I do not blame the present day brits for everything. But I see some who feel proud of their older generation for their deeds and worship their ideals. So, for those people, I wanna point my finger at these things where they went wrong. And you can understand the depth of their wrongdoings when you see that one or one and half century has passed after all major world incidents yet the divisions are as it is, the violences are as it is and still we are fighting against each other with same age old ideas. And precisely for those reasons , I wanna tell the people of today's generation that what you believe seperates you, that very idea has been planted in the public to seperate and rule us by the lords of those times. They became ashes and ghosts yet surprisingly their seperating ideals are still poisoning the minds, generation by generation. So please I urge people to leave the previous generation pride and do something worth in our times and create your own pride.
I will love to see the reunification of Ireland.
@Evan Scollan we call them plastic pats as do the rest of the world.
Under British Rule or no Reunification.
@@billcipherproductions1789 British rule will never happen.
@@roseanne9986 Nor would Irish Reunification then.
@@billcipherproductions1789 look at the comments from British people, they said when you burn your streets down The British tax payers are not footing the bill. Can’t blame them. You wanted brexit you got it live with it.
That Joel boy has no idea about the end point of the trail he wants to follow. Wake up boy, go make love not hate.
Sure he does, he knows.
I'd love to see him fall in love with a Taig lass ......
Someone better buy him a girlfriend.
@@tjmarx Im sure he knows the facts too, but I dont think that he realy knows what they mean.
@@jean-lucpicard6261 You and OP seem to want to believe that if someone only knew the chaos, suffering and destruction that would be caused they wouldn't start the action. That anyone starting or advocating must be naive.
But *THAT* is a naive position to take. Some people believe it's justified and others just want to see the world burn. Joel knows, he hangs out with a militia ffs, one filled with men involved in the last round of violence 22 years ago. Both sides know better than most in these comments what's coming and the only place it can go. They're well aware, but they want their pound of flesh.
"we want to keep our identity"
then why is your only celebration the burning of another groups identity?
They have music as well. And it is absolutely terrible.
They learn from their colonial master
@@ThePSmokePersonally I don't agree with burning other countries flags but are you aware that Catholic Nationalists in Northern Ireland have used St Paddy's day as an excuse to get drunk and play sectarian music against Protestant Unionists; yet it's supposed to be a religious holiday for everyone to celebrate...?
St Paddy's day is supposed to celebrate St Patrick spreading Christianity which is now a global celebration, but instead Nationalists use it as a day to poke fun at Protestants. (I know because I have Catholic friends who've done exactly that whilst I'm there with them feeling awkward and uncomfortable).
Looking at how the 11/12th July celebration happened, no matter what king would have won the battle of the Boyne, either way the day would still be celebrated. It's not a day for only one side to celebrate, Catholics have just chosen to take a disliking to it.
@@NorthernIrishman it isn't right for them to treat the Protestants the same way many Protestant Loyalists have treated them. I attended 11th/12th celebrations in Kilkeel a few years ago, and with their efforts to be family friendly they did not have Tricolours on their bonfire. They also avoided sectarian banners, though someone did sneak in a couple of UVF flags on a pole on the edge of town. I enjoyed it. But most of their music, unless it reflects their Ulster-Scot traditions, is still terrible.
@@ThePSmoke I've never seen the UVF flag before, or at least I haven't cared enough to ever acknowledge it because they're paramilitaries. I didn't even know they had a flag but I suppose you learn something new everyday.
Unionism has had 100 years to make a UK welcoming and fare for all, instead they made it hostile and unwelcome for Irish nationalist Catholics, and that is why a United Ireland is the only answer, unionism hasn't worked and never will
And pass on the problem to Ireland? That's a terrible idea
@@Victoryinourstars We can handle it, we can pay a re-unification tax like how West Germany did for East Germany. When the poverty stricken communities up north have employment and a future they will slowly realise which country cares about them.
@@Rdburnzy i doubt it but if you insist
@@Victoryinourstars We have to try something, the status quo has failed both communities. I feel like it's the Republic's turn to govern for 100 years (if that's how the majority of Northerners vote)
Protestant and catholics are roughly 50 50 of the population, so give 3 counties to the Republic and leave 3 with the UK, the protestants and Catholics on the minority side exchange populations.
The Irish border is in its rightful place , in the Irish Sea.
Have a pint for that
@@tomaszzalewski4541 If there is open conflict then border will be back where it used to be and it will be as big as the palestinian border also the Republic of Ireland can say goodbye to there trade?
@@billlot5329
There won’t ever be a partition in Ireland again.
Loyalists terrorism won’t succeed .
@@billlot5329
What "...open conflict..."?
For whom?
The Loyalist paramilitaries are not a military threat. Their experienced people are all pensioners at this stage.
The Police Service of Northern Ireland(PSNI) is well able for them.
Would not be nicer if the Northern Ireland was further up the Irish sea, maybe closer to Iceland.
It's very simple, just move to UK, and let Ireland reunite their country and land.
Exactly, Apart from move to uk, Loyalists will always be welcome they are actually Irish as well. But a united Ireland has to happen makes me feel sick that we're still not free. So all that fighting and blood for nothing. 🇮🇪🇮🇪TAL
Well reuniting Ireland right now would cripple republic of Ireland economy. Ireland is growing and has potential to be super rich but the British pumps a lot of money into NI which Ireland will have to pick up on.
You say that but honestly many people have come to rely on the NHS in NI and we don't want to give that up.
@@kakashihatake326 Money can be made, but the nation's sovereignty shall not be compromised. British empire days are long gone, there are other alternatives to solve the money problem. Look to the East.
@@jamiemcc6253
Utter nonesense.
Not free?
Please explain what rights they do not have and what rights have are being denied?
Why can't they be protestant in a united Ireland? Scotland which is where their ancestors came from voted to remain in the EU as, as did Northern Ireland. Being in Ireland/having Irish citizenship doesen't prevent the Ulster Scots from having a British/protestant identity. Just like German Namibians still hold on to their German identity.
Because their whole identity is based upon sectarian supremacy. It's THAT they are fighting against loosing...a fight they're going to loose regardless as times have moved on.
There can
They identify so strongly with flags because they have nothing else going for them. They need decent jobs. A United Ireland is guaranteed at this stage, just a matter of time, but it will be a united Ireland of equals not sectarian domination that they have become accustomed to.
Because religion does make a difference, protestants and catholics may have opposing interests from eachother and would make the protestants a minority
@@europauniversalis1860 It was never about religion. The british dressed it up as a sectarian conflict. The conflict it between the colonizer/British/Anglo Saxons versus the indigenous irish Gaelic/Celt. Difference might be subtle to you but it effectively a germanic clan versus one of the oldest cultures and tribes of people still existent on this earth
Love from India.....
Ireland must be independent.
It is rather intriguing that one of the last vestiges of British colonialism is right next door to Britain. Oh well, nothing Brexit won't solve.
funny you should mention that, I spoke to a good few Indians and Sri Lankans in conversation they told me that they wished both countries were still in the British empire, they hated the present corruption, and state-dirt of the place there was order in the Empire... Ireland although it was misruled by England went into terminal decline after independence and had to give up what was left of its sovereignty to join the EU.
@@jimcazador6057 That's a fanciful representation of events. It would be more accurate to say that the UK was in terminal decline (being referred to as the sick man of Europe) till it finally managed to join the EU. And now, out of the EU again, the sickness and terminal decline are back.
@@jimcazador6057 who told you that??? No indian will ever talk like that
@@jimcazador6057 British policies caused massive famines in both India and Ireland.
The ironic thing about the red hand of ulster is originated from the Irish Lámhdearg symbolising a great warrior from the blood of the enemies
Hmmm, even the irish language is closely dead, how much culture would left then.
@@陈家鸿-c5o Irish music.. Irish dance.. Irish football. And hurling. Irish poets... Not to mention good old Irish crack... Far from dead lad..
@@brianmcgovern6207 Jayus lad it's craic
@@baintreachdhubh7327 now your getting the Irish humour.... 😂😂
@@baintreachdhubh7327
Agus dtigeann tú anois?
These loyalists are so insecure about their national identity and I find that really funny
Free United Ireland 🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮
yes bro free ireland....brits are outsiders occupiers....love and support from india....
😂 can’t even get the flag right.
@@subh510 don't be a communist
God bless America
God save the queen
Indians love the west
@@sudhakarswain8241 that is what the indians are best in carrying & polishing cannon balls, should let the British colonise them for another 100 years.since they love them so much.
@Dave Steward 🤣
I think by the time Joel's voice breaks and he starts shaving, we will already have a united Ireland.
I think not.
Ha. Someone yelling TAL over the fence. They're "British" and I'm a cat. Meow, meow! Irish soil, Irish people! All the problems there are due to British colonialism and the world knows it.
Ohhh look someone mentioning colonialism again.
You really, really are not helping
They are like bad guests that steal your stuff then refuse to leave.
After the border poll the British visitors can integrate or hop on the Stena. See how the actual Brits (the ones from Britain) tolerate the bigotry & fleg culture. Might get on alright in some parts of Glasgow but most Brits cringe seeing their antics.
@Rallan I'm an Irish citizen and I will have my vote. Unionists will get theirs. Bigots need to move on or move out.
I saw your comments in another thread, got your number pal.
Do you speak for "the people of NI" ? The people of NI voted remain, did ye cop that 5 years ago? Anyway UK majority is what counts, so hope you celebrated back then Now you can suck up Westminster's (UK) agreements. Protocol is here to stay. Are you? There is a right comfortable ferry.
@Rallan just seen your other comment 🤡 you are a clown. Show this to the law and they will laugh tou out of the place.
Maybe see if the British army will take you seriously.
Send in the SAS? 💩
Go on give us another.
Let's not forget that the DUP was in a coalition with the conservatives and likely helped with much of the negotiations and plans of brexit. Now that they got exactly what they voted for, they aren't happy. Totally absurd
Exactly. The absence of a border between NI and the Irish republic was obviously a crucial point that enabled the Good Friday Agreement, and the DUP's support for Brexit was, basically, an attempted finger in the eye of NI nationalists, with the DUP being enthusiastic about taking away from the nationalists one of the core things that allowed them to agree to that historic deal in 1998. Well, it turns out that the DUP's finger was actually a finger in their own eye.
You could never make the DUP happy its not in their nature
Let's not forget the DUP is the only political force who didn't agree the good friday agreement. They were perfectly fine living with violence, and peoples dying.
@@dieselpub2 That is very true Fred
The British government doesn’t care about Northern Ireland and the Unionists need to get over that.
«Yeah right»
@@justhowgoo752 yep he’s right. Boris sold his own people out, what makes you think your so special. The British people are waking up. They said when you burn your streets pay for it yourself, because the British taxpayers is not footing the bill.
@@roseanne9986 The British people would never abandon us. We are as motivated as anyone to build this country of ours to a fully sovereign nation. May Great Britain once again rule the waves. To give up Northern Ireland makes no sense in my mind. The only reason is probably to get this hole brexit thing a smoth start and the hearts of the people, but even this seems to have backfired. I’m no politician, but I choose to believe this mistake would be rectified. Let’s be in charge of our own future again and never choose to be ruled over again.
@@justhowgoo752 who do you think rules the north. We choose never to be ruled over again
@@justhowgoo752 we in Ireland will be in charge of our own future.
N Ireland should rejoin Ireland.
@Honest Internet User funny 😂😂😂
@Honest Internet User England is finished Scotland and Wales want out.
What happens if London rejects these guys? It seems that they have not understood that United Ireland is coming
London has already kissed them goodbye. They just don't know it is for good yet.
How do you mean rejects them? Britain has not withdrawn from Ireland, therefore they have not been rejected. I do hope though that post British occupation in our reunified Irish republuc that Britain will help the resettlement of unhappy unionists into Britain if they wish that.
@@OhEidirsceoil by "reject" I mean that London has no concern for loyalism. The question is therefore, will they accept the move towards unification or will the commit violence? There seems to be a level of paranoia in the loyalist community which is sort of irrational. They seems to be fighting the shadows.
The problem is that unionists celebrating "who they are", need to find a different identity than that of oppressor. That includes ending the Orange marches through republican neighbourhoods.
@Honest Internet User
U need to take your pills 💊🙂 young irish 👦lady.
That’s like saying the Germans should change their identity and culture just because of ww2 lol
last time I checked the Irish also hold marches outside of Protestant churches and unionist neighbours
@@doom1894
Um, are you serious? Yes, Germans completely overhauled their politics, identity and culture because of ww2. Have you paid any attention to post-WW2 German culture and identity? Good grief.
I don't think I've ever heard of Republican marches in NI. But if they do, certainly they should stop them too.
The religious wars have to stop. Calling it part of your culture isn't an excuse.
1:50 No dear boy, you can have both. You had both. That was the great advantage of both being the EU. You could choose to which you belonged.
Brexiteers in 2016 for no reason: "OUT OUT OUT!!!!"
Brexiteers in 2021 with petrol bombs flying all over NI: *surprised pikachu face*
The young man represents colonial mentality at its finest.
The UK owns NI and Period.
@@billcipherproductions1789 it occupies it - yes
@@billcipherproductions1789 NI's fate will be decided by a border poll. There's your period.
@@peabase And polls say only 20% of NI want to rejoin Ireland And that's the final period.
@@tomaszzalewski4541 But if its people don't want is to leave it is not an occupation.
Ulster Loyalists the "lost tribe". The people that time forgot.
You're just being a bit cruel there they live in the 17th century god help them
The loyalists perpetually live in the year 1690
@GearóidODU - What is this?
Boris is a nightmare when it comes to truth and Ireland.
This poor boy is lead by the wrong people. He doesn't understand what he is talking about and will make the wrong decisions. Hope he gets a grip of himself and will understand that others have a voice too.
It was guys his age that started the conflict in the 60s. It was all young men like him that picked up the guns and joined the organizations
Big respect to Northern Ireland from the mainland. You are British and always will be.
The mainland is Europe. We are both but small islands off it.
Keep trying your best to dismantle us. Britain thrives in adversity. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@raymonddixon7603 Go live in continental Europe then
Ireland never was never is and never will be British.
The Mainland is europe. GB and ROI are merely two small islands off that mainland. Less of the lil englinder talk.
Joel is adorable.
Also, as an American this seems like such a silly waste of time.
Why can’t a United Ireland honor the British Ancestry and contributions of Protestant Northern Irish?
Truth be told. The British did what the Chinese are doing to Tibet. The Chinese are encouraging their people (Han) to migrate over to another land to colonize it and change the demographics.
The English did this to Ireland hundreds of years gone.
The Protestants need to accept that they are Irish now and not British.
Just like my ancestors were British and now I’m American.
They are standing on Irish soil and the Irish will unite eventually.
The earliest recorded inhabitants of Northern Ireland were the Cruthin - the Ancient Britons.
So to try and say Northern Ireland’s relationship with the British is colonial is ridiculous.
American = Opinion discarded
@@fyrdman2185 seems to have been the attitude for Britain and my ancestors for a long time.
Irish Catholics who live on this island (opinion disregarded)
Eventually, she’ll have to stand alone without her toys. Just a tiny nation with an interesting history.
Scotland will leave, Northern Ireland will leave and Wales (likely).
I love England and Ireland and their common shared history but killing people over this is silly.
Like the Tudor dynasty killing Protestants and Catholics. It’s just a continuation of that ridiculousness.
At this point England is fighting over crumbs of her empire and as a descendent of the empire it’s just a bit sad.
Time to go gracefully into the night and be the right sized England, for the English you were meant to be.
@@michaeltoney2277 you're an Amerifat talking about us being on someone else's land, do you not see the irony there
The real Question is:Who would want to Be the Prime Minister during the Collapse of the UK?
@Razor Mouth JRM?
@Oliver Higgins Ok.
There is no "Northern Ireland". There is the North of Ireland. TAL agus gach la!
What’s another word for north 😏 oh that’s right Northern
Chauvenism and jingoism will not solve your economy and problematic politics UK , friendship and co-operation will
Well said.
Well, I do not think anybody is too bothered about going carbon neutral in NI.
Maybe Greta Thunberg should lecture those young people......
More people than you think actually.
*car bomb neutral
Bojo and the Tories will not pay heed to Loyalist demands in the coming years. I wonder what the Unionists are going to do then. Resort to more violence to get their voices heard, only for their actions to cause self-harm to themselves and the society around them, while Westminster carries on lazing about, doing what it does best, looking after its own interests.
I cannot wait, a united Ireland and Free Scotland coming soon :)
The Scotts choice twice to be part of The UK. In your jingoism you ignore as many people want to remain in the UK as don't. Look how diversive Brexit was. Just over a quarter of the population of The UK (17.4 million) got more say over the majority who didn't vote for Brexit. The independence vote is getting more air play but no poll has ever suggested its the majority view. Scotland is free. You are where you are because as a country you choice it. I didn't want Brexit but I've had to live with it. You only get one say if you vote out.
Hmm. The Good Friday agreement is clear both sides require a referendum for unification before it can happen. And do you see any serious political discussion in Ireland for this? What Catholics want is unlikely to happen. For me sadly but that's the reality.
@@bradavon "Scott's" says it all you are clueless
@@33m3c SAOR ALBA
FREEEDOOOM!!!
It's called Ireland, if you want to pretend to be British try moving there.
It's called the UK also.
@@andrewh5457 Britain is another island. Ireland isn’t british. It never was. Go to Britain and be British.
@@LeMerch never said it was British,
It’s called Northern Ireland if you want to be Irish the why do you move to The Republic of Ireland
@@LeMerch Northern Ireland is British
Watching loyalists realising that are on their own is just fantastic 👏
Some of them interviewees are delusional and have zero shame about it 🤨
Just for any of you that don’t know the people on the island of Ireland claiming to British are correct but they won’t tell you that came through their ancestors being settlers of that Ireland on direct orders from the English monarch in the 1700s
Joel, your grandchildren will be Irish.
grandchildren? this kid will never have a wife, let alone kids
Kind of funny because the truth is the UK is not gonna let that happen and also this transition period will be over by 2025.
@@billcipherproductions1789
Then there most be a border in 2025. There is no way around it if the UK wants to have full control over NI...
@@i.i.iiii.i.i Yes, there will be a border.
@@billcipherproductions1789 But the northern irish did not want any border...and even those loyalitst now are deeply felt betrayed by Westminster. Any solution for that???
I Love how this comment section is full of foreigners telling Ulster Scots how they should think and do in their own country
Personally, I was neutral on the question of Northern Ireland. I’ve been a supporter of Scottish Independence, but that’s completely distinct from the issues relating to Northern Ireland.
Our push for independence has always been about progress, equality and justice; whilst providing opportunities for young people that have been depraved and mismanaged by Westminster. In Northern Ireland, it was often more a question of identity rather than anything to do with pragmatism, fairness and future. Regardless of the side of the debate.
However, you only need to start paying attention to the current debate and see exactly what’s at play here:
A United Ireland which fundamentally works better for the island’s economy, political systems and is able to address the British Neglect of Unionist Neighbourhoods - by investing in them, despite being majority British. Where the SOLE counter arguments is that the “Catholics” will take our identity and oppress us; when no one is advocating for that, let alone all the non-catholics living in the Republic. Issues surrounding things like the NHS have already been reconciled with Irish Politicians agreeing to maintain it with unification.
Or keeping Northern Ireland British, further neglecting these neighbourhoods, creating more division and damaging the North’s economy leading to further escalations. There is no valid reason for anyone to argue that this is somehow the better option anymore.
There is no longer a “status-quo” everything has changed and will continue to change; in its current direction, that change is net-negative for everyone involved - Scottish or Northern Irish.
I hope you come and rejoin us after independence, Saor Alba 🇮🇪 🇪🇺 🏴
U prob think Nicola is queen Sheba,so your opinion is irrelevant and no wonder u support a united ireland just like you support open borders for Scotland
@@johnmcdonald9295 Oh look, a 3 month old vacant RUclips channel with only 2 comments and a “like” history consisting of political videos being active for a grand total of 4 hours.
Try to be less obvious with your Unionist Bot account next time…
@@sicgc7658 I don’t support any political parties,democracy is as real as Santa god and covid
Northern ireland needs to stop acting like a bunch of leprechauns.
didn't northern ireland belonged to Ireland historically??
Yes but the Ulster Plantation happened 400 years ago. Quite a lot of history between now and then.
Ireland historically has never been one unit until united under British rule.
@@liamot and irland got only its Fredome not even 100 years ago! Its a coline rule must end, kick the brith govmernt out and punsh the criminals
@@dan-860 and? Most nations and nation states didn't exist in their current form until the late 1800s or later. Doesn't make a movement for self determination any more or less valid.
@@dan-860 Yes it did. One legal system (Brehon Laws) & one shared Gaelic social structure,and one language & belief system. Just because it was a stateless society does not mean it was not one country/culture.
Smart people who are so proud of a tradition that treats them like dirts.
You must described both, how do you think the 15% corporation tax is going to effect things?
More Catholics than Protestants now.
The game is up.
It is only a matter of time.
Well it was Ireland for Millenniums. It was illigally annexed by the UK. Its Indigenous people thrown of their land. The poorest areas seem to be the most staunch! 🙄
Is this young man and his friends employed or on the dole? If the latter, the money is coming from the English taxpayer. Living in public housing? The money is coming from the English tax payer. Using the NHS? The money is coming from the English taxpayer. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!
True and marching season when they burn their streets, who do you think has to pay for it. English tax payers.
Jerry it is much worse than that. I am from the Republic and NI is an economic and political wasteland. It costs the UK taxpayer 11 billion a year. You guys pay for EVERYTHING!!! As an Irish taxpayer I am more than welcome for you to keep on funding it.
The british empire no longer exists! Time to leave the last colony.
IRELAND UNITED!
Do you know how you can tell they are British? They live in the past.
@Honest Internet User That is called the present.
ps "faught" is Cajun slang for fart. Is that what you intended to say? I'm happy with either meaning.
When i worked abroad, i had a drink with some Irish guys, all of us got along pretty well. Then they said, if their family and friends at home would know about them hanging out together, they could get into real trouble, because they belonged to the different factions. I still think about that sometimes and it's quite depressing. That was 11 years ago, nothing changed i guess?
Working class? Doubt any of them have worked a day in there life
Exactly
How do you expect to achieve an all Ireland with that language? Besides, it’s well known that Ulster Catholics are lazy gits and that it’s Protestants have the work ethic
Subtitles are required.
Just click on the subtitles button.
Long for a REUNITED Ireland.
😂😂😂 The loyalists voted for Brexit hoping for a border with the republic. Instead they got a border with Britain. This is absolutely hilarious to me!
Boris Johnson holds all the cards, unfortunately as is often for him, the game being played is chess.
Why do they always go around the estates and interview muppets? Most of the time the majority don't give a toss. Try and stay out of Belfast or derry/londonderry and watch the views change
That should be easy to stay put of non existent places like Narnia or Londonderry
@@OhEidirsceoil 🤦♂️
@@andymacrory6543????
It is like that the LCC is constantly been spoken to, despite they are an unelected representative group with ties to very unpalatable organisations.
Here here Andy see my comment above.
Put your cross in the wrong box, didn’t you?
LMFAO AS A BRIT I DIDNT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE FRIST GUY
If Westminster lacks competency in implementing the NI Protocol (which they signed as part of the Brexit agreement), then it makes more sense for the island of Ireland to be one country. The borders would be much simpler than the status quo, and the people of Ireland can finally be united.
The sooner the better Terry
From what I have observed; the UK uses Northern Ireland as an economic buffer zone between themselves and the Republic of Ireland.
@@michaellovely6601 Odd purpose. Hence simpler to have the island of Ireland to be one separate country.
Always support the Irish against British colonialism. Always!
RoI is now home to many of the world's largest corporations.
Sorry but the majority of people living in northern Ireland want to stay for now. Its not really colonialism when they can leave when they want and the uk gov really wouldn’t mind if they left.
@@oj3458 Than stop the occupation of Ireland 🇮🇪 now.
@@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight northern ireland can leave when it wants. They want to be part of the uk. You obviously don’t know jack about the troubles
@@oj3458 The U.S should quash all remaining vestiges of Brtiish imperialism, Wales, Scotland, independent should be freed, Ireland united, Gibraltar given back to the Spanish, and the Falklands rightfully handed over to Argentina.
I live in England, most people I have talked to here don't see them as British.
Bollox! I'm English and i see them as British. You're probably irish yourself
@@fyrdman2185 not what I have experienced and I have lived all over England.
@Tony Montana like i said it's because most English people don't even know English history let alone the complicated history of Northern Ireland. Anyway it doesn't change the fact that the protestants there are ethnically British.
Why not move to the main land if you see yourself as British and you take such offense on how the situation in NI is?
They see themselves as British in Northern Ireland. It's not rocket science.
Would you? You're basically using the same racist argument people use towards British people of colour. They're from there.
They are from there but they can't get along with the Indigenous people from there; The Irish. Paradoxical.
@@bradavon I actually would, if i disliked it enough. It's not like they are leaving the country. Think of it this way: If I was american and hated how my state is run, why not move to another state?
Unless, of course, deep down you know that you are different and would't belong. Which frankly seems to be the case here. They want to be british, they see themselves as british, but deep down they know they aren't.
@Big Rah I mean, you can want a lot of things, but if your need for change becomes so bad that you end up resolving to violence, then maybe you should really think about moving instead
Joel is such a sad extremist. Doesn't understand international law either. It's just sad.
Once again DW gets it wrong: Brexit didn't reignite the conflict. The EU insistence on a hard border did that.
The eu isnt asking for border and it britains decision to leave the eu
Johnson negotiated a deal with the EU, had it approved by parliament and immediately reneged on it. Is any new deal worth the paper it's written on? BoJo the Clown doesn't know whether he's coming or going.
Aye, you tell em Willy.
What a waste of good pallets
This puts serious doubts on when this kid was on TV last time, saying he wasn't part of the vandals, but was just helping a friend..... seems very...... doubtfull now
Lol. The RUclips speech recognition algorithm has accomplished an amazing job in making me finally understand what’s all about here.
0:22 “For hundreds of years, people in Ulster have fought for the Romanian part of the Kingdom.”
Now that all Romanians have been kicked out after Brexit, I can see how people in Ulster are understandably pissed off.
To the Unionists in Northern Ireland: Please do not use the Welsh National Flag to promote your misguided treachery of Ireland. WE DO NOT SUPPORT YOU!! 🏴💓🇮🇪
Like they would use your flag you aren’t even on the Union Jack nobody in the uk cares about you lot 🤣🤣🤣
shut it taffy
The thing is that Joel is wrong about having it both ways, both part of the UK and part of a United Ireland. That is exactly what they had before Brexit. That any political party chose to support Brexit is nothing short of arson.
Unionists campaigned for Brexit because they truly believed that there would end up a border at Newry and got one at Larne instead… backfired so badly and it can’t be fixed
0:35 the couple behind are living in their own realm.
Northern Ireland is British
independence for northern Ireland and reunification with Ireland ....end English colonisation
That will happen but half of the people will not like it and if it does happen The Trouble 2.0 will happen.
This, and the Scottish independence? Wow
A break up of the UK (with Wales still being a member) will work out ridiculously well for us English as both Scotland and Northern Ireland as net beneficiaries of the Union. We'd actually be saving ourselves millions of it happened. Maybe even making some off the tariffs applied to imports.
@@simonrodgers2375 Then why the Brexit vote ? why not just vote for england too leave the UK then ? and let the UK stay in the EU ?
@@moregan777 The EU is a sinking ship.
Freedom to Northern Ireland.
It's still baffles me as to how hurt they feel, confused and for the first time ever in unionism , being an underdog, as they stated we thought to keep us British, why did you fight for, o yeah , the right to have the power to do what yous wanted?, a forever fight to empower your settlement on another's land, and a 12th of July, or that day of intimidation and bigotry, but be offended if we want to have an Irish language act in Ireland? Rip the city Hall to bits because a flag wasn't going to be an all year rounder? Always saying are culture is being damaged ? I have protestant friends, and I say the same to them, about the culture!!!
And the same thing said 99.9% of the time.
Us all getting together around a bonnie fire , celebrating having a bit of crack. Watching the parades go buy.
Making it sound so innocent, and yes in there eyes it is? I'm sure they all are having the time of there lives.
But how ever !
In a nationalist/ catholic side , all that crack comes with a very very big meaning in are expense, with there 12th being a victory , in there eyes a reminder of how we got here and why we're still here , bone fire stack against all health and safety measures , just to become a beacon of intimidation, to be sure that its not just seen but to feel its presence?
Orange order a mid evil fraternity, only created to ensure that ORDER was to be inplace, an anti catholic organisation, way before the times of the troubles, but what culture ? Who makes a culture from bigotry! Know how you no it is, Scotland don't get on like it, Welsh Don't either , but why protestants ,
I'll tell you why, because the North of Ireland, Scotland and Wales are ball and chained by the same same tax collector, and ruler, so the Irish, Scots and Welsh don't get on bigoted, and don't deface every lamp post and curbs , it's funny how Welsh, Scots and Irish is a celtic form of language, its more like a united kingdom of control.
Ur British up sessed because of the freedom of control you were giving, right up till the 90,s and since power sharing came into effect, you keep mistaken your so called culture being damaged for something that wasn't yours being shared or giving back.
We're reasonable people, we don't incite hatred - so what if we offend the vast majority of people in Ireland by lighting bonfires every year, burning Irish flags to mark an ancient victory. Not as ancient as the dinosaurs, mind you.
Everyone knows that the dinosaurs were here only last week.
The entire universe is about 6,000 years old...
EDIT; I have to point out that I am channeling the DUP worldview here...
@@quackatoa6105
Do you mean Northern Ireland, which was, last time I checked, still PART OF THE UK?
The Republic of Ireland(RoI) has been engaged in damage control long before the British got around to announcing the date of their idiotic referendum.
Sorry, but we're not going to set light to ourselves to make you happy.
No reason why we should, really....
😂🤣😃
My relatives in Dublin would never want a 32-county Ireland. For them, it would mean higher taxes over many decades, just like it did in Germany. Why do you think the south koreans don't do it ?
I have wondered about this. NI has fallen way behind the Republic economically, and policing/administration in NI is not exactly ... easy. Is the appetite for reunification wanning within the Republic electorate? There seems to be very little practical upside.
(And you're wrong about S. Korea, the public is overwhelmingly in favor of reunification no matter the economic costs, the problem is the N. Korean government likes being power and has nuclear weapons)
@@Sphere723 That's what I was thinking.
I'm South African and I know about racism. This is just racism in another format. It's rather violent. 💔
It’s terrible what’s happening to the yt people in South Africa
John McDonald’
To white people
"Protestants just do what they want"
Few minutes later, protestant kid leaves his bike on the road which may or may not have street car rails on it.
Thats an area by the docks that is a pedestrian walk area, also where kids cycle and skate. So he was just doing what every kid and tourist for that matter does
Karma, if in the past your ancestors traveled all over the world to disturb the people's nation, now their descendants are disturbed due to the greed of your ancestors.
Karma isn't real you know.
And now my descendants are angry that I got bullied by someone else's descendants, and the cycle continues forever.
@@SerBallister So karma isn't real.
South Africa had to give control to the majority as part of a democracy with positive and negative effects. The UK supported that. So maybe the people of NI should accept this as hard as it is. They are still technically British. Get on with life.
The majority of people in Northern Ireland support remaining within the UK
@@dan-860 thats like saying Western Cape should to be a seperate white state of south africa. The majority of people in western cape )would probably like that. Its not an option, so they get on with life. Its not like NI is a thriving Brittish colony. It seems to contain the poorest towns of Ireland. So not sure why they have allegiance to a UK goverment that does not really care.
@@mangs9940 why shouldn’t it be an option? Why should their self determination of the Afrikaaner people be refused just so they’re forced in an artificial state. The same goes with Ulster Protestants, why should their self determination be ignored due to some arbitrary irredentist claim from the southz
You mean South Africa the one run by a corrupt party that hates all other races
Do they really thing the English care about them? It’s hilarious. Much like Scotland. They wouldn’t want to see their cash makers seceding now would they?
And the Welsh. Its as much the Welsh's fault for creating Brexit.
Hmm millons of English people didn't want Scottish independence in 2014. The English who later voted for Brexit don't speak for The UK.
If they want to fight each other in Northern Ireland, just let them get on with it.
Simple yet effective winner takes all 😂
@@seanefc4064 Republican victory then, only thing the Loyalist paramilitaries were good at was killing civilians, the Provisional IRA was the most feared and effective terror organisation in the world until it's ceasefire and eventual stand down.
To quote a British Major after the Derryard checkpoint assault "Cowards? They are murdering bastards but the Provisionals are not cowards, to advance underfire and to press home an attack on fortified positions with rifles and grenades takes bravery, coordination and the training I would expect of professional soldiers"
Support for the independence of Northern Ireland
Bonfire of the Vanities! What a shameful waste of lives and energy!
Interestingly the red hand is actually an ancient Gaelic symbol that the unionist community appropriated, it was the sigil of the O’Neill dynasty who were one of the last Gaelic clans to fight against English rule.
They don't know the first thing about the history of their own artificial country
It’s originally the ancient clan symbol of my family actually. Red hand clan O’Neills, Hugh O’Neill is my ancestor, and we are gealic catholic always have been 😅 so the unionists using it it is both hilarious and leaves a taste of bitterness.
Lol ! British now giving up territory rather than capturing them but still not caring about the people residing there
Who would've thought.
2020 BREXIT
2024 Unification of Ireland
@Huon Pine Ireland will always be Irish.
Originally though it must be said that the Red hand was just a symbol of the Northern Kingdom of Ireland.
It’s originally the ancient clan symbol of my family actually. Red hand clan O’Neills and we are catholic always have been 😅 so the unionists using it it is both hilarious and leaves a taste of bitterness.
Fear not people.... All sensible uk citizens are on your side, 🇬🇧
If you feel so British move to mainland Britain, why live in a colony called Northern Ireland. Top of the morning
to ya