Alarm will go off because it is monitoring the OBD port of the i3! The dongle will set off the Alarm as it's still connected when you close the car. Only wa to prevent it is either take out the dongle or use a coding programm. With that, you can customize the alarm system to not monitor OBD port. Regarding electrified app: yes: -3kW means your pulling that much from the battery. When charging you will see positive numbers! SOC HV in the middle coloum right shows real SOC as BMW uses a buffer. 100% on the instrument cluster an on top of the app equals 99,7% of the whole battery capacity. Battery heater will use the function you described as preheating. It will heat passenger area and battery. But it will only heat up battery up to 11 degress Celsius. Therefore with 13 degrees at start of video it won't/can't heat up battery anymore! Also: For the trunk you can find special inserts. They will make the room where the Rex used to be usable. Search for Wokeby! And there is a solution to make the frunk watertight. I3 is still a great car when you are ok with it's limitations. I drive a i3s with 94Ah and Rex and absolutely love the car. With a coding app and obd dongle nearly everybody can to some degree customize the car. Electrified works 100% with ABRP and live data from i3. There is a way to do Screen Mirroring Android smartphones to the entertainment screen. BTW: i3 is a designed electric vehicle. The rex was always only an add on for smaller batteries and non-European markets with the current battery. Design was pur electric. Just the software sometimes seems to be imported from their ICE cars. Don't say i3 was designed as a hybrid. In 2013 it was necessary with the small batteries but you had to order it as optional equipment.
It's the dongle setting the alarm off, the car is awake for about 10 mins after locking, causing the alarm to detect the power drain through the dongle.(can be deactivated using bimmercode) It will pull a max of 3kwh on the pre-heat mode,(depending on temperature) and if you do it unplugged them it will pull max of about 3kwh from the main battery. The only! Way you can make the car preheat the battery whilst not driving is to plug the car in on charge and set a departure time for AT LEAST 3 hours from the current time, it will then bring the battery up "or down" to perfect operational temperature, and 30 minutes before departure it will turn on the internal cabin heaters and heat/cool cabin to 21. Like I said , it will ONLY pre heat main battery if you set charge minimum of 3 hours before departure! It will not preheat battery if not plugged in on charge ! Bit it will heat cool battery using the preheater if you are driving, this does it evwrytime you drive the car, you can't turn this feature off. You can only use the key or app 3 times in 24 hours to heat, or unlock the car etc through the app, to reset this you must turn ignition on and then you get 3 attempts all over again., Possible the same through the key with pre heat. When you use app or key to preheat it sets the car to 21 temperature, this cannot be changed, it will do everything else itself. It runs for 30 minutes then shuts off to not drain main battery, and I think if below 10% charge you can't use this feature (something like that). Electrified is a great app, the "-" before numbers shows the drain on main battery. Also I see it's showing 100% heath on battery, this will vary a bit depending on your last drive and how fast you charge, mine sometimes shows 93, but if I drive well and charge slow it jumps back up. Oh, also the auxiliary preheat also cools the car down if your in a hot climate too!
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@Martin Cristian Thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Hi Bjorn, big fan. Have had an i3 for 2years. The i3 works differently when plugged in or not. If plugged in and you set a departure via the iDrive or app it will : 1. Precondition the battery and warm it to the best temperature for longest range over 3hrs (forums say 0.5kw/hr draw max). 2. It will warm/cool the cabin 30min before departure. If charging on mains and you activate auxiliary climate control via any method it will warm the battery and cabin for 30mins. If it IS NOT plugged in, setting a departure time or activating auxiliary climate control will only warm the cabin for 30mins. The BMW i3 auxiliary climate control is an option and cannot be spec’d with a Rex version.
I have a 2016 i3 60 Ah REx with "auxiliary" climate control in iDrive/app. It's a European (Norwegian) version. What it doesn't have, is the heat pump - which I understand can't be spec'd with the REx.
For everyone out there here's what turning on the Climatization via the app takes out of the battery for 15 mins cabin warming when NOT plugged in. 3% ! Fantastic and this is without the Heat Pump. Outside temp 3C after 15mins cabin 22C
It is the OBD that triggers the alarm. it is quite annoying. i think it happens most of the times when you lock the car. You can turn off the alarm on the OBD if you use Bimmer code, but you have to do it in expert mode,if i remember it correctly. You can try to read here : www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=54309&hilit=electrified&start=120
Ok, friends again. 👍🏻 The ODBD connection causes the alarm. The old i3 can pull 32A on one phase. Preheating is always a little bit strange for me, sometimes hotter than normal, sometimes not. The i3 seems some kind of paranoid regarding heating and energy consumption. Battery conditioning is also pretty confusing for me: Maybe you can investigate under which conditions (connection type, temperature, state of charge....?) it does preheat the battery.
Great video. I need to get an OBD reader for my i3. I use the BMW connect app to setup my auxillary heating schedule the days I am going to work, so the car is nice and warm when I get in. 30 mins is what it does.
Hi Bjørn, Can you please clarify which OBD you use in the video? Is it the OBDLink LX (www.obdlink.com/products/obdlink-lx/)? The website mentions "**Please Note: Hybrid and Electric vehicles are low or zero emission vehicles, our scan tools may not work.". Does the OBD work in all EVs you test?
@@arnold_2523 i haven't checked the iX3 myself (i dont like SUVs), but i saw Autogefühl's review yesterday - he is a really good reviewer - and the iX3 seems like a great car. If I was in for an StupidUtilityVehicle, it would definitely be ahead of the two Teslas. Due to price, the id4/enyaq however, are more in my league..
Hi Bjørn! :-) I'd be interested in a review of the current software status compared to the software from 3-4 years ago. The sat nav route planner was completely unusable back then, routing you across AC charging stations when DC fast chargers were nearby, and always taking the nearest possible charging station when planning a route, not the one that matches your current range. Has that improved? Does it know the status of all chargers yet? Does it know the charging speed of chargers and take that into account when routing?
I like it 🤣 “ I don’t know what does this button does. I don’t know why it doesn’t function now, why the alarm goes on” Guys the good news is that it’s not my car, I borrowed it to play with operative software
You don't have to get out of the car to start the pre heating. I use it during charging. If you're in the car, just push the button and it will start. For the app, I think you can use it. If no-one else used it before, just go to the app store, download the bmw app and enter the VIN number. I think that's all what's needed. If you want to preheat the battery, schedule a departure time in the app or in the car. The car will start to heat the battery 30 minutes before departure, will heat the cabin and load the 2 12 volts battery's to the max, to get max range. You'll notice that your battery charge will stay at 100% for the first 5-10 km's.
I think the battery heating only works if you have the charging cable connected. And the timer set more than 3 h before takeoff. Without charging connected only cabin can be preheated.
@@bjornnyland but actually, the BMW app should work. Just enter the VIN number of the car. You find it at the front windscreen. There is an new and an older version available in the app store. I prefer the older on. It has more options.
I have an OBD adapter and an 2018 i3s. I'd like to get that Electrified APP but it's not appearing in my Canadian App store (iPhone). Anyone else in Canada with recommendations for similar?
I think volvo xc60t8 plug in ....will heat cabin plugged in ...in preheat mode...accessible in center screen setting...please like if you have one and think it true...
The connection over BT to the electrified app causes activity on the OBD, if the car sees such activity when locked it sees it as a vulnerability and triggers the alarm. Closing the electrified app, stops the BT connection which in turn stops activity on the OBD and the alarm doesn't trigger.
How long time does it preheat cabin if you use the fob smart buttom to start the heater? Does it stop preheat if you start and drive away and use normal klimate control system then?
@@GTI_CHHA i found a bug on a public schuko charger where the plug is behind a 32A fuse. So i could pull 7 kW into the i3 with an 11 kW onboard charger over 1 phase
Quick tip, you can connect to the app without being the owner. ruclips.net/video/PGo_cz5sYfM/видео.html At least it worked on WiFi's (wife's) 1st gen i3
Alarm will go off because it is monitoring the OBD port of the i3!
The dongle will set off the Alarm as it's still connected when you close the car.
Only wa to prevent it is either take out the dongle or use a coding programm. With that, you can customize the alarm system to not monitor OBD port.
Regarding electrified app:
yes: -3kW means your pulling that much from the battery. When charging you will see positive numbers!
SOC HV in the middle coloum right shows real SOC as BMW uses a buffer. 100% on the instrument cluster an on top of the app equals 99,7% of the whole battery capacity.
Battery heater will use the function you described as preheating. It will heat passenger area and battery. But it will only heat up battery up to 11 degress Celsius. Therefore with 13 degrees at start of video it won't/can't heat up battery anymore!
Also: For the trunk you can find special inserts. They will make the room where the Rex used to be usable. Search for Wokeby!
And there is a solution to make the frunk watertight.
I3 is still a great car when you are ok with it's limitations. I drive a i3s with 94Ah and Rex and absolutely love the car.
With a coding app and obd dongle nearly everybody can to some degree customize the car.
Electrified works 100% with ABRP and live data from i3.
There is a way to do Screen Mirroring Android smartphones to the entertainment screen.
BTW: i3 is a designed electric vehicle. The rex was always only an add on for smaller batteries and non-European markets with the current battery. Design was pur electric. Just the software sometimes seems to be imported from their ICE cars.
Don't say i3 was designed as a hybrid. In 2013 it was necessary with the small batteries but you had to order it as optional equipment.
It's the dongle setting the alarm off, the car is awake for about 10 mins after locking, causing the alarm to detect the power drain through the dongle.(can be deactivated using bimmercode)
It will pull a max of 3kwh on the pre-heat mode,(depending on temperature) and if you do it unplugged them it will pull max of about 3kwh from the main battery.
The only! Way you can make the car preheat the battery whilst not driving is to plug the car in on charge and set a departure time for AT LEAST 3 hours from the current time, it will then bring the battery up "or down" to perfect operational temperature, and 30 minutes before departure it will turn on the internal cabin heaters and heat/cool cabin to 21.
Like I said , it will ONLY pre heat main battery if you set charge minimum of 3 hours before departure!
It will not preheat battery if not plugged in on charge !
Bit it will heat cool battery using the preheater if you are driving, this does it evwrytime you drive the car, you can't turn this feature off.
You can only use the key or app 3 times in 24 hours to heat, or unlock the car etc through the app, to reset this you must turn ignition on and then you get 3 attempts all over again., Possible the same through the key with pre heat.
When you use app or key to preheat it sets the car to 21 temperature, this cannot be changed, it will do everything else itself. It runs for 30 minutes then shuts off to not drain main battery, and I think if below 10% charge you can't use this feature (something like that).
Electrified is a great app, the "-" before numbers shows the drain on main battery.
Also I see it's showing 100% heath on battery, this will vary a bit depending on your last drive and how fast you charge, mine sometimes shows 93, but if I drive well and charge slow it jumps back up.
Oh, also the auxiliary preheat also cools the car down if your in a hot climate too!
That's all very usefull information for (future) i3 owners, thank you!
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@Martin Cristian Thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
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This car will be a future classic
Hi Bjorn, big fan. Have had an i3 for 2years.
The i3 works differently when plugged in or not.
If plugged in and you set a departure via the iDrive or app it will :
1. Precondition the battery and warm it to the best temperature for longest range over 3hrs (forums say 0.5kw/hr draw max).
2. It will warm/cool the cabin 30min before departure.
If charging on mains and you activate auxiliary climate control via any method it will warm the battery and cabin for 30mins.
If it IS NOT plugged in, setting a departure time or activating auxiliary climate control will only warm the cabin for 30mins.
The BMW i3 auxiliary climate control is an option and cannot be spec’d with a Rex version.
I have a 2016 i3 60 Ah REx with "auxiliary" climate control in iDrive/app. It's a European (Norwegian) version. What it doesn't have, is the heat pump - which I understand can't be spec'd with the REx.
40 kWh is enough of charge of battery
You can start the aux heater through the idrive, you can even use the number 1-8 buttons to configure it as shortcuts.
Thanks for the tip!
For everyone out there here's what turning on the Climatization via the app takes out of the battery for 15 mins cabin warming when NOT plugged in. 3% ! Fantastic and this is without the Heat Pump. Outside temp 3C after 15mins cabin 22C
It is the OBD that triggers the alarm. it is quite annoying. i think it happens most of the times when you lock the car.
You can turn off the alarm on the OBD if you use Bimmer code, but you have to do it in expert mode,if i remember it correctly.
You can try to read here : www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=54309&hilit=electrified&start=120
Seeing this "auxiliary heater" stuff makes me wonder if early BMW cars had buttons called "feed horse" and "tighten saddle"
Rhydian Lewis :Those options disappeared with the 2019 SW update :-)))
In electric cars, no having cvt . Because the electric car no having exit of co2. The Ecologic bmw i3
Ok, friends again. 👍🏻 The ODBD connection causes the alarm. The old i3 can pull 32A on one phase. Preheating is always a little bit strange for me, sometimes hotter than normal, sometimes not. The i3 seems some kind of paranoid regarding heating and energy consumption. Battery conditioning is also pretty confusing for me: Maybe you can investigate under which conditions (connection type, temperature, state of charge....?) it does preheat the battery.
Great video. I need to get an OBD reader for my i3.
I use the BMW connect app to setup my auxillary heating schedule the days I am going to work, so the car is nice and warm when I get in. 30 mins is what it does.
Does that bmw connect app still work?
i3 you can preheat without plug it in. And That is good.
Bjorn i rlly enjoyed ur vlogs in road trips can u make more road trips vlogs?
The battery will be pre-heated if you tell the i3 when you want to leave. You can set departure time via iDive or app.
May I suggest that you figure out how things work /before/ recording the video?
Too bad I wasted your time 🤣
Good site! You do very interesting testing!!
Hi Bjørn, Can you please clarify which OBD you use in the video? Is it the OBDLink LX (www.obdlink.com/products/obdlink-lx/)? The website mentions "**Please Note: Hybrid and Electric vehicles are low or zero emission vehicles, our scan tools may not work.". Does the OBD work in all EVs you test?
Yes, that's the one. It works with almost all EVs I test.
If the electrified app has an open BT connection to the OBD when the car is locked the alarm goes off because it sees it as a potential vulnerability.
i3 is still the best BMW EV you can buy. Because it's the only one 😆
ruclips.net/video/MLtWMKCcmAw/видео.html
But it's still an amazing car and a good ev considered that it is almost eight years old! It definitely looks not old.
iX3 you can buy aswell
@@arnold_2523 i haven't checked the iX3 myself (i dont like SUVs), but i saw Autogefühl's review yesterday - he is a really good reviewer - and the iX3 seems like a great car. If I was in for an StupidUtilityVehicle, it would definitely be ahead of the two Teslas. Due to price, the id4/enyaq however, are more in my league..
BMW i4 coming 2021, first pure EV from BMW I heard. (not based on a fossil platform)
You can add the car to your BMW app by adding it through the bmw idrive in the car.
Hi Bjørn! :-) I'd be interested in a review of the current software status compared to the software from 3-4 years ago. The sat nav route planner was completely unusable back then, routing you across AC charging stations when DC fast chargers were nearby, and always taking the nearest possible charging station when planning a route, not the one that matches your current range. Has that improved? Does it know the status of all chargers yet? Does it know the charging speed of chargers and take that into account when routing?
OBD adapter can do alarm problem. Like somebody tries to hack.
The i3 Bacon edition.
That OBD is a lot easier to get to than on the model 3. I’d really like to install one but it is a bit scary for me. 🤣
I like it 🤣
“ I don’t know what does this button does. I don’t know why it doesn’t function now, why the alarm goes on” Guys the good news is that it’s not my car, I borrowed it to play with operative software
The battery pre-heat only kicks in if you schedule a departure time >3 hours. It says that in the manual of the car man.
Damn, that's not very flexible, man.
@@bjornnyland Its how it works, and it only works while plugged in.
Hey!
Will you also do the acceleration test?
The Really sound is : SsSsSsSsSsSsSsSs
In 2021, the version of production the bmw series i4
I have question about preheating of battery. Can it be done with the same way?
You don't have to get out of the car to start the pre heating. I use it during charging. If you're in the car, just push the button and it will start.
For the app, I think you can use it. If no-one else used it before, just go to the app store, download the bmw app and enter the VIN number. I think that's all what's needed.
If you want to preheat the battery, schedule a departure time in the app or in the car. The car will start to heat the battery 30 minutes before departure, will heat the cabin and load the 2 12 volts battery's to the max, to get max range. You'll notice that your battery charge will stay at 100% for the first 5-10 km's.
I think the battery heating only works if you have the charging cable connected. And the timer set more than 3 h before takeoff. Without charging connected only cabin can be preheated.
I went outside to show you that it works even when not inside the car.
@@deas1972 you can be very right
@@bjornnyland got the point Bjorn!
@@bjornnyland but actually, the BMW app should work. Just enter the VIN number of the car. You find it at the front windscreen. There is an new and an older version available in the app store. I prefer the older on. It has more options.
I have an OBD adapter and an 2018 i3s. I'd like to get that Electrified APP but it's not appearing in my Canadian App store (iPhone). Anyone else in Canada with recommendations for similar?
I'm sure you have figured it out but it's only available for Android at the moment
@@raisingnet1 I figured it out and have an older Samsung Galaxy phone which I now use for this purpose
I think volvo xc60t8 plug in ....will heat cabin plugged in ...in preheat mode...accessible in center screen setting...please like if you have one and think it true...
Hello, you can see outside temperature on left side of screen behind stearing wheel :) +10
Yes, but how can you see inside temperature?
@@bjornnyland sorry, not possible:)
Ok
The alarm is triggered by the OBD. I went nuts with this issue. You have to unplug the OBD every time.
Or close the electrified app
The connection over BT to the electrified app causes activity on the OBD, if the car sees such activity when locked it sees it as a vulnerability and triggers the alarm. Closing the electrified app, stops the BT connection which in turn stops activity on the OBD and the alarm doesn't trigger.
What year is ur car
Max. 50kw charging speed with the newest i3 right?
Yes
@@bjornnyland Thanks Bjørn! BMW engineer claimed differently...
BACON!!!!!
How long time does it preheat cabin if you use the fob smart buttom to start the heater? Does it stop preheat if you start and drive away and use normal klimate control system then?
People say it runs for 30 minutes.
Test it in Summer, so you can pre cooling the car 😅
how many kwh battery capacity this i3 model? i counted for Ah. My calculation is 43 Kwh. is it true?
Bjorn, please shoot the videos in 4k again, it will be way better in terms of watching experience.
Nah
I think i charged i3 with 7 kW over 1 Phase. with my self build shuko adapter on a special plug.
@@GTI_CHHA i found a bug on a public schuko charger where the plug is behind a 32A fuse. So i could pull 7 kW into the i3 with an 11 kW onboard charger over 1 phase
Hello!
cool
👍
Mans not hot!
Quick tip, you can connect to the app without being the owner.
ruclips.net/video/PGo_cz5sYfM/видео.html
At least it worked on WiFi's (wife's) 1st gen i3
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Problem solved 🤣😂
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