The Z1 Ally would also be a great cloud streaming device. I do a lot of cloud streaming with my Z1E, including streaming my Gaming Laptop at 120Hz and maxed out bitrate via Moonlight/Sunshine, sometimes GFN Ultimate at 120Hz, and Xbox Remote Play. You could also stream a PS5 console as well but I don't have one (yet). It really helps to stretch battery life running at 10W or even 7W with CPU Boost off while working flawlessly. Another fun benefit for me is being able to use Gyro aiming on the Xbox when I stream my Xbox from the XBPlay application and add it to Armoury Crate. The Xbox doesn't have Gyro support but when cloud streaming it like this it does actually work and works well for me.
@@Bluestarferies its pretty crazy that at this point a person is better off with 1 of these types of devices than a laptop etc if they just wish to game and do regular computer stuff, I cant justify buying high end gear atm besides a desktop
@@stennan how? I'm pretty sure we have to pay some additional taxes to import the device. In Italy for example that would be 22% the whole price of the device.
As a Z1 owner, I always watch Steam Deck graphic setting video for heavy games... Since performance is kind of equivalent. I would say it's not a bad choice, but Z1 community is rarely on air as Z1E, so you'll hardly find support in term of performance. I won't change device in couple years, I'll wait at least a X2 performance as Z1E did and better battery as Ally X version.
@@johnparty3786 on the same boat! I’d say Z1 non extreme fairs better than the steam deck especially when docked and that CPU smokes it in terms of productivity when used as main computer.
I also have a Z1 non extreme and a steam deck. I might be the only person on the planet that preferred my Ally over the Steam Deck. I actually put windows on it so I could have a similar experience on both. I still really enjoy steam deck but the ally is just better to me. I play mostly docked unless I'm in bed so it doesn't bother me that the battery life isn't great. I always grab my Ally over my Steam Deck, just being honest.
Z1 and Z1 Extreme are Zen4, so they support AVX-512, which greatly boosts RPCS3 (PS3 emu) performance. Steam Deck's CPU is Zen2, which is pretty old at this point.
Actually steam deck did better than ally x even in silent hill 2 ramek the ally x may be faster but with less graphics than steam deck become custom AMD similar to console devices
@@gecked8560 yeah so? Im talking about online gaming or games that are not supported for Proton etc. Its not playable on you're legion go anymore so the same like steam deck
Recently got a Z1E for $280 "as is". All it needed was New Thumbsticks and a Windows Reinstall. Everything works, even the SD Card is working (Thank God). It feels like the LCD Steam Deck I had (Battery Wise). About 1 to 3 Hours of Actaul Usage.
I grabbed my regular Z1 for the same price, but nothing was wrong with it. Came without the charger, but I already have one since I also have a Macbook Air and HP Zbook. Don't need much more at this point.
Last week i bought a PS Portal for $160 and a non extreme Ally for $229 and i couldn't be happier. I have the Z1 Extreme connected to a 34 in lg ultrawide and love it. The non E version is getting bazzite installed as we speak can't wait to it's done and can enjoy it. I hope the battery is much better running bazite then running Windows. Great video thanks for all your content.
AMD has proved that their X3D chips are the BEST for gaming.... they should really make a laptop part/handheld part with 3d cache. Imagine how much horsepower they would have. honestly, HBM3+ memory has the same latency as L3 cache.... they could actually leave out the L3 cache, and use HBM3+ memory instead. So 8 core 16 thread, 14-20 graphics cores, on a single chip, with HBM3+ right there with it, say 16gb. If they design the chip right, the HBM memory would be the L3 cache. And that would be INSANE in terms of performance.
The performance bump would be nice, but they would definitely still have to prioritize optimization & battery life. If they can do both of those then yes it would be amazing for handhelds.
HBM is fucking expensive and X3D adds more heat that needs to be dissipated, also cache power draw it's not that insane but because we are talking about low power devices putting more cache is a nonsense in terms of efficiency at low power
They do have a laptop part with 3d cache, 7945HX3D iirc. It doesn't really perform that much better, probably because laptop chips get cut L3 cache by default so it's basically just a normal desktop chip.
$225 used at Best Buy means I'll be seeing them under $200 on Facebook marketplace very soon. Golden opportunity! Let's see if I can grab one for under $175
Doesn’t really mean that necessarily . People can still buy them cheap and sell them for more. It’s a year old device, there is still demand for it, so the price can’t go down that much.
I love these videos, when I need to travel really light for quick business trips, I dont bring my laptop as its pretty cumbersome (it has its uses, like when im at CES for a week and need to edit on the fly) you bring this, a dock, cheap keyboard and mouse and your golden. On a ultra tight budget you could even use it as a gaming pc with a 1080p monitor...I know I wish Id have had this when I was in college
I bought it at 352 for z1 Extreme version. Good condition. Looked new. Everything in box. TOTALLY worth it. Kept it with windows so I can play EVERYTHING including Epic and GOG stuff. I use mine as a media player as well.
yeah lin-i mean bazzite is limited to proton which is getting good mind you but some stuff cant be played on linux distros...yet... i have a steam deck and i truly regret my purchase. its sitting there collecting dust and what not
@@polarvortex6601LCD or OLED? You can dualboot Windows on both Steam Deck versions but I wouldn't recommend it on the OLED due to some drivers missing including Audio Drivers, making the built-in speakers useless 😢. I have had Dualboot on my LCD Steam Deck practically ever since I first got it, but later got a Z1E Ally which is obviously more preferred if you want Windows, minus the worse battery life.
@@ZanJupiterbecause the price and it’s just better all around. I was able to pocket $350 after selling my oled and getting the z1. It has better performance and better screen and I have the option to run windows easier so the only benefit was oled but the screen is 800p compared to 1080p, 120hz and vrr
It's honestly a great little device for emulating 360 and ps3 games, i haven't found one it can't play yet, it's a very immersive console like experience in the palm of your hands 10/10
Good video and idea. Picked up a refurbed MSI Claw for 330€ a month ago. If you can lower your expectations a bit these neglected devices are actually quite good for the money.
Get msi claw 7 under 350$ because for some reason msi claw in my country is getting cheeper,well i happy with my claw because im not gona play AAA games on my claw,i play AAA game on my laptop or my pc,and damn i love the speaker, is so good
I have a ally x and when I first got it put bazzite on it and there were a few quirks. Took bazzite off and went back to windows. Recently tried Bazzite again , dual boot and it works much better so they’ve clearly improved bazzite
Wow the cost to get a fair condition Z1 Extreme isn't much more I saw and I would think that is worth it unless you are getting it for $220 like ETA Prime got the Z1.
Do they vary the price from Best Buy? I am seeing them for 315 (z1) and 343 (extreme) from best buy, and those are "good" condition. Fair is 299 and 315 respectively. For the barely $50 price difference I would go up for the extreme, but also, for just a little more I could just go up for a Steam Deck LCD.
I hope we get a video showing how to do emulation with bazzite. Can it run everything like a windows pc can? Contemplating doing bazzite on my desktop gaming pc
That’s a pretty amazing price you got. Can’t find a refurb for even double that. Would love to see you do some tests on a z1 extreme version running bazzite please? Those are coming in at $500 seems maybe worth it.
Feels like you're quite harsh on the Z1 here. I bought mine last year at 400 bucks and I enjoyed it greatly. I don't play the big AAA games, and it runs JRPGs and smaller budget games just fine.
Thinking about getting one of these as the brain for my virtual pinball table. Run pinscape and fx3 tables, maybe some techno parrot stuff. Affix a dock to my AtGames Legends Pinball machine.
The Z1 is currently the best and the cheapest gaming handheld PC money can buy. Not as great as the Steam Deck but it just work and can game just fine with major tinkering. edit: grammar
Thasta a sweet deal, even for emulation you would get a beast! at that price range and what you can emuate dont think there are any better options unless you need something very small and pocketable.
That $225 price also comes with a profit margin included. So when you saw the original price, you can see the vast margins being applied to such tech. At this price though, it would also make an ideal mini PC option that also has dual use. What's with the blurring of the box?
@@AndrewTSq It depends a lot on where you live. Where I'm from a used Z1E is more expensive than an LCD Steamdeck, used as well. The OLED steamdeck is around 500$ used, while the rog ally z1e is around 300-350$ used.
I got a Z1 Extreme at a pawnshop for $325 plus Tax. Came with the box and the official Asus case (The retail price for the case is ridiculous BTW), unfortunately mine is an older model that has the SD slot that fries cards. I already have a Steam Deck (LCD) and a Legion Go (1TB), so I might try some alternate OS builds like this or Tiny Windows on it, just to see what happens. If it doesn't work I can always go back to original Windows. My big thing though is I okay some heavily modded games (like Skyrim) and getting mods to run on the Steam Deck is a huge pain.
Question, so is performance better because you're running Linux underneath instead of the Windows overhead? If so about 95% of what I run is on Steam on my Z1 Extreme and this would be the performance boost that I need for battery life (Currently getting about an hour running stuff like Persona 5 Royal).
That is your decision at the end of the day. I would do thurough research into the pros/cons of both before deciding to sell your Deck. I'd say one of the biggest factors would be battery life. Whether Bazzite or Windows, the Steam Deck will still have much better battery life than the Ally due to the better optimization and how well it performs at lower TDPs. Both are great handhelds but both have their pros/cons, so I would highly recommend doing research before making the decision just so you don't have buyers remorse.
If you hate windows don't,if you want to double the performance and storage you getting on your steam deck at a cheaper price then Yes. Again this year hasn't been financially great to for me and since I I got the rog Ally I get to pirate all my games which isn't possible with the steam deck.
Worked fine for me on my Z1E. I believe you only have to worry about it if you've debloated a bunch of things in your Ally like some people have recommended doing without knowing much about what they are "debloating".
@@Energydrinc I would make sure it is plugged into the official charger and close all other programs first to be extra safe, but yeah it should update just fine. From what I've seen the bricking seems to be fairly rare and of course the only people making those posts are the minority that had those issues, not the majority who didn't have those issues.
Maybe.... depending on what you want to play. Sure the Ally is more powerful but, the Steam Deck is more refined and optimized. Ally is Windows, Deck is designed around gaming. Just depends on your needs..
Given current frame gen tech, it doesn’t make sense to do this. You can push way more power out of that device than it would appear to possess on the surface through the type of universal frame gen apps that Linux just doesn’t support.
Yh you can run them at 720p to get more fps then go to the And settings and upscale it to 1080. To me the upscaling of this device looks more sharper than playing at native resolution.
for me it is a yes because i own a desktop gaming machine ryzen 5 5600 and rx 600 gpu and cup . i only use this too play games on my bed i seen one for like 300 i want one so bad . i use emulators on my
I have been using the base Z1 for 4 month and I don't have any of those issues. At this point am beginning to think those issues comes with the extreme version Since that what people where buying when the rog Ally was released
Hey guys I got a lcd 64gb steam deck is it worth it to game mostly on handheld with the regual rog z1 its on salr for 270$ just want to play some AAA games while in bed because the steam deck struggles so much
At that price for a mini-PC, that's kind of wild, especially when cloud streaming devices are actually more expensive
i agree
@@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords and they can only justify buying it at 200$ no more than that. Like what are we doooooing here..
The Z1 Ally would also be a great cloud streaming device. I do a lot of cloud streaming with my Z1E, including streaming my Gaming Laptop at 120Hz and maxed out bitrate via Moonlight/Sunshine, sometimes GFN Ultimate at 120Hz, and Xbox Remote Play. You could also stream a PS5 console as well but I don't have one (yet). It really helps to stretch battery life running at 10W or even 7W with CPU Boost off while working flawlessly. Another fun benefit for me is being able to use Gyro aiming on the Xbox when I stream my Xbox from the XBPlay application and add it to Armoury Crate. The Xbox doesn't have Gyro support but when cloud streaming it like this it does actually work and works well for me.
@@Bluestarferies its pretty crazy that at this point a person is better off with 1 of these types of devices than a laptop etc if they just wish to game and do regular computer stuff, I cant justify buying high end gear atm besides a desktop
That 200buck offer looked sweet. I'm crying European tears here.
Assuming we can't import from best buy?
@@EnterpriseKnight why though 🤔
I would trade places to have universal healthcare and basic consumer protection rights.
@@stennan how? I'm pretty sure we have to pay some additional taxes to import the device. In Italy for example that would be 22% the whole price of the device.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Got me there.
As a Z1 owner, I always watch Steam Deck graphic setting video for heavy games... Since performance is kind of equivalent. I would say it's not a bad choice, but Z1 community is rarely on air as Z1E, so you'll hardly find support in term of performance. I won't change device in couple years, I'll wait at least a X2 performance as Z1E did and better battery as Ally X version.
@@johnparty3786 on the same boat! I’d say Z1 non extreme fairs better than the steam deck especially when docked and that CPU smokes it in terms of productivity when used as main computer.
Have you tried AFMF 2 or Lossless Scalling in windows? Seems a nice pair for that 120hz screen and low power
I'd try to sell it and get a used z1e. With some luck, you'll pay less than $100 for the upgrade
Z2 launch on 25Q1 jfyi
I also have a Z1 non extreme and a steam deck. I might be the only person on the planet that preferred my Ally over the Steam Deck. I actually put windows on it so I could have a similar experience on both. I still really enjoy steam deck but the ally is just better to me. I play mostly docked unless I'm in bed so it doesn't bother me that the battery life isn't great. I always grab my Ally over my Steam Deck, just being honest.
This for a budget desktop computer for family and casual use is actually very good. Way stronger than a chromebook and a lot of computers
Z1 and Z1 Extreme are Zen4, so they support AVX-512, which greatly boosts RPCS3 (PS3 emu) performance.
Steam Deck's CPU is Zen2, which is pretty old at this point.
isnt z1 extreme having dogshit fps in GoW anyways?
it was working fast for a few weeks but rpcs3 emulator always crash. it has everyday update till it doesnt work anymore. i deleted it
@@tomzplAre you talking about Ragnarok or PS3 version via RPCS3? I'm pretty sure Ragnarok was fixed via a recent driver update.
Actually steam deck did better than ally x even in silent hill 2 ramek the ally x may be faster but with less graphics than steam deck become custom AMD similar to console devices
@@GreenLeefMusicus there 2 ps3 emulator
Bazzite is so great. I love it on my legion go, and it's great to see they've also put as much love on the Ally
@@KyleLoiselle if you use bazzite on the legion go its kinda pointless you shouldve just buy the Steam deck
@@Blackpanther-cr2vrWhy ? I dualboot mine … Gamepass in Windows and everything on Steam in Bazzite
@@Blackpanther-cr2vr The Steam Deck doesn't have a Z1E or detatchable controllers though?
@@gecked8560 yeah so? Im talking about online gaming or games that are not supported for Proton etc. Its not playable on you're legion go anymore so the same like steam deck
@@Blackpanther-cr2vr Price my guy.
Recently got a Z1E for $280 "as is". All it needed was New Thumbsticks and a Windows Reinstall. Everything works, even the SD Card is working (Thank God). It feels like the LCD Steam Deck I had (Battery Wise). About 1 to 3 Hours of Actaul Usage.
Sd card issues are so random. I ended up just upgrading the internal memory
I grabbed my regular Z1 for the same price, but nothing was wrong with it. Came without the charger, but I already have one since I also have a Macbook Air and HP Zbook. Don't need much more at this point.
Last week i bought a PS Portal for $160 and a non extreme Ally for $229 and i couldn't be happier. I have the Z1 Extreme connected to a 34 in lg ultrawide and love it. The non E version is getting bazzite installed as we speak can't wait to it's done and can enjoy it. I hope the battery is much better running bazite then running Windows. Great video thanks for all your content.
It'll only have slightly better battery on Linux than on Windows.
If you want the device to last longer, you'll just have to play Indie or AA games.
I did have to drive almost an hour to get mine, but $320 for an open-box fair Z1E was a great deal. It was just dirty!
I regularly see people selling the non extreme ally for around 200 on fb marketplace, fantastic value
AMD has proved that their X3D chips are the BEST for gaming.... they should really make a laptop part/handheld part with 3d cache. Imagine how much horsepower they would have.
honestly, HBM3+ memory has the same latency as L3 cache.... they could actually leave out the L3 cache, and use HBM3+ memory instead. So 8 core 16 thread, 14-20 graphics cores, on a single chip, with HBM3+ right there with it, say 16gb. If they design the chip right, the HBM memory would be the L3 cache. And that would be INSANE in terms of performance.
The performance bump would be nice, but they would definitely still have to prioritize optimization & battery life. If they can do both of those then yes it would be amazing for handhelds.
HBM is fucking expensive and X3D adds more heat that needs to be dissipated, also cache power draw it's not that insane but because we are talking about low power devices putting more cache is a nonsense in terms of efficiency at low power
They do have a laptop part with 3d cache, 7945HX3D iirc. It doesn't really perform that much better, probably because laptop chips get cut L3 cache by default so it's basically just a normal desktop chip.
$225 used at Best Buy means I'll be seeing them under $200 on Facebook marketplace very soon. Golden opportunity! Let's see if I can grab one for under $175
The price is not fixed the moment people start buying the raise it back to $350
@@Mystical_DeenIt's already 280...ETA effect
@@CuttinInIdaho 🤣
There's a ton of them listed for sale online 😅 how many did they sell
Doesn’t really mean that necessarily . People can still buy them cheap and sell them for more. It’s a year old device, there is still demand for it, so the price can’t go down that much.
I love these videos, when I need to travel really light for quick business trips, I dont bring my laptop as its pretty cumbersome (it has its uses, like when im at CES for a week and need to edit on the fly) you bring this, a dock, cheap keyboard and mouse and your golden. On a ultra tight budget you could even use it as a gaming pc with a 1080p monitor...I know I wish Id have had this when I was in college
If the price gap is noticable then the regular Z1 will do just fine. It's not a bad CPU, it's just badly priced
This is what i did with mine. Got it on heavy discount because it was broken. Repaired it myself and dumped bazzite on it and it works great 👍
I bought it at 352 for z1 Extreme version. Good condition. Looked new. Everything in box. TOTALLY worth it. Kept it with windows so I can play EVERYTHING including Epic and GOG stuff. I use mine as a media player as well.
yeah lin-i mean bazzite is limited to proton which is getting good mind you but some stuff cant be played on linux distros...yet... i have a steam deck and i truly regret my purchase. its sitting there collecting dust and what not
@@polarvortex6601LCD or OLED? You can dualboot Windows on both Steam Deck versions but I wouldn't recommend it on the OLED due to some drivers missing including Audio Drivers, making the built-in speakers useless 😢. I have had Dualboot on my LCD Steam Deck practically ever since I first got it, but later got a Z1E Ally which is obviously more preferred if you want Windows, minus the worse battery life.
I've actually really been considering this for a minute. could you do a comparison against a baremetal steamdeck?
That transition at 06:30
I been saying this for months now glad to see someone else catching on. I sold my steam deck oled for my z1 ally with basite
@@casualgamer177 why?
@@ZanJupiterbecause the price and it’s just better all around. I was able to pocket $350 after selling my oled and getting the z1. It has better performance and better screen and I have the option to run windows easier so the only benefit was oled but the screen is 800p compared to 1080p, 120hz and vrr
And probably still more powerful than whatever Nintendo decides to release after the Switch.
Even the new phones are better than the switch 2
good idea ngl, might as well wait till black friday at this point tho
Bazzite is great. I recently installed it on my desktop, and I'd be happy to use it on a handheld.
It's honestly a great little device for emulating 360 and ps3 games, i haven't found one it can't play yet, it's a very immersive console like experience in the palm of your hands 10/10
Would love to see testing with bazite and the XG mobile.
Im still rocking my Rog Ally and can't wait to share my review of this thing after a year.
I got z1e for 300 and I put bazzite on it and it rips. Absolutely a steal!
This is pretty hard to beat as a general purpose computer for under $300.
Awesome. I support this idea. Banger of a video.
Good video and idea. Picked up a refurbed MSI Claw for 330€ a month ago. If you can lower your expectations a bit these neglected devices are actually quite good for the money.
Omg Intel are very poor when it comes to Apu. Never buy any of their devices when it's pure Apu.
Get msi claw 7 under 350$ because for some reason msi claw in my country is getting cheeper,well i happy with my claw because im not gona play AAA games on my claw,i play AAA game on my laptop or my pc,and damn i love the speaker, is so good
If this had launched at a flat 350 it would have made waves vs being a laughing stalk of a return item!
For that price this is awesome! I love my SD OLED but if I saw a deal this steep it woulda been a tough call
I have a ally x and when I first got it put bazzite on it and there were a few quirks. Took bazzite off and went back to windows. Recently tried Bazzite again , dual boot and it works much better so they’ve clearly improved bazzite
WHERE can i get these on ebay for low 200 open box?! Cant find it anywhere?!
Wow the cost to get a fair condition Z1 Extreme isn't much more I saw and I would think that is worth it unless you are getting it for $220 like ETA Prime got the Z1.
Hell. Yeah. This is what the people wanna see 🎉
I wouldn't replace Windows on this device because you will miss out on AFMF or Lossless Scaling Framegen.
Yeah and OBS screen capture replay
There's no more issues with the Micro SDs on those units?
Do they vary the price from Best Buy? I am seeing them for 315 (z1) and 343 (extreme) from best buy, and those are "good" condition. Fair is 299 and 315 respectively. For the barely $50 price difference I would go up for the extreme, but also, for just a little more I could just go up for a Steam Deck LCD.
I was able to pick up a z1 extreme with 1tb ssd for $350 yesterday off marketplace!
I hope we get a video showing how to do emulation with bazzite. Can it run everything like a windows pc can? Contemplating doing bazzite on my desktop gaming pc
That’s a pretty amazing price you got. Can’t find a refurb for even double that. Would love to see you do some tests on a z1 extreme version running bazzite please? Those are coming in at $500 seems maybe worth it.
Feels like you're quite harsh on the Z1 here. I bought mine last year at 400 bucks and I enjoyed it greatly. I don't play the big AAA games, and it runs JRPGs and smaller budget games just fine.
Hilarious that so many in tech media bemoaned this product and so many folks in the comments are now happy lol
I would insta buy for that price. In my country finding it under 400€ and without any problems is already challenging.
Thinking about getting one of these as the brain for my virtual pinball table. Run pinscape and fx3 tables, maybe some techno parrot stuff. Affix a dock to my AtGames Legends Pinball machine.
The Z1 is currently the best and the cheapest gaming handheld PC money can buy. Not as great as the Steam Deck but it just work and can game just fine with major tinkering.
edit: grammar
In europe you can find z1e ally in perfect condition for $250 on sh market.
Where?
Thasta a sweet deal, even for emulation you would get a beast! at that price range and what you can emuate dont think there are any better options unless you need something very small and pocketable.
I’ve said this forever! I bought one a year ago and haven’t looked back!
why U blur the box lid when You open..?
Probably has his shipping info on it
@@qbrt4050 oh, maybe 🤔
can you test it with the MSI claw, that has intel Arc crappy gpu.. it's kinda cheap-ish now that it's on discount
The Z1 is still great it runs everything I throw at it with no issues.
So, Z1 Ally, or a Steam Deck, they can both be gotten used for around $200-250 ? I've seen used decks for around $125 (64gb with no powercord)
10:15 someone forgot something 🤓
That $225 price also comes with a profit margin included. So when you saw the original price, you can see the vast margins being applied to such tech. At this price though, it would also make an ideal mini PC option that also has dual use.
What's with the blurring of the box?
If there was a way for you to set up my rog ally like that I would definitely do it 😅
Is that bright stuck pixel in your camera or in console?
It's on console, now that I look closer at computer screen...
Is the regular z1 better than regular version of steam deck?
better in performance, worse in battery life
too bad the rog ally non extreme is so expensive here, 600 euro for a used one, meanwhile my steam deck 512gb was 369 euro new
Just comes down to cost the 2 more cores helps a ton just that igpu hold back abit that need more gpu power.
@@AndrewTSq It depends a lot on where you live. Where I'm from a used Z1E is more expensive than an LCD Steamdeck, used as well. The OLED steamdeck is around 500$ used, while the rog ally z1e is around 300-350$ used.
I got a Z1 Extreme at a pawnshop for $325 plus Tax. Came with the box and the official Asus case (The retail price for the case is ridiculous BTW), unfortunately mine is an older model that has the SD slot that fries cards. I already have a Steam Deck (LCD) and a Legion Go (1TB), so I might try some alternate OS builds like this or Tiny Windows on it, just to see what happens. If it doesn't work I can always go back to original Windows. My big thing though is I okay some heavily modded games (like Skyrim) and getting mods to run on the Steam Deck is a huge pain.
Keep the Legion go and send me the Ally lol
would prefer 720p and longer battery life/higher fps over 1080p
With this OS and at the same wattage, does it perform better than a steam deck?
Question, so is performance better because you're running Linux underneath instead of the Windows overhead? If so about 95% of what I run is on Steam on my Z1 Extreme and this would be the performance boost that I need for battery life (Currently getting about an hour running stuff like Persona 5 Royal).
I’m seeing this for 280 bucks at Best Buy. Should I sell my steam deck LCD and get one of these or is it not worth the trouble?
That is your decision at the end of the day. I would do thurough research into the pros/cons of both before deciding to sell your Deck. I'd say one of the biggest factors would be battery life. Whether Bazzite or Windows, the Steam Deck will still have much better battery life than the Ally due to the better optimization and how well it performs at lower TDPs. Both are great handhelds but both have their pros/cons, so I would highly recommend doing research before making the decision just so you don't have buyers remorse.
If you hate windows don't,if you want to double the performance and storage you getting on your steam deck at a cheaper price then Yes.
Again this year hasn't been financially great to for me and since I I got the rog Ally I get to pirate all my games which isn't possible with the steam deck.
I’m still afraid to install that new update from asus after all those devices bricked lol.
asus doing asus things?
Worked fine for me on my Z1E. I believe you only have to worry about it if you've debloated a bunch of things in your Ally like some people have recommended doing without knowing much about what they are "debloating".
@@GreenLeefMusic That makes sense and I don’t know what debloating is so maybe I’ll try updating.
@@Energydrinc I would make sure it is plugged into the official charger and close all other programs first to be extra safe, but yeah it should update just fine. From what I've seen the bricking seems to be fairly rare and of course the only people making those posts are the minority that had those issues, not the majority who didn't have those issues.
@@GreenLeefMusic I was worried because of that AC warning when you set a manual profile. But that would be so silly if that caused it.
Is it better then the steam deck though for the same price?
Yes
Maybe.... depending on what you want to play. Sure the Ally is more powerful but, the Steam Deck is more refined and optimized. Ally is Windows, Deck is designed around gaming. Just depends on your needs..
Given current frame gen tech, it doesn’t make sense to do this. You can push way more power out of that device than it would appear to possess on the surface through the type of universal frame gen apps that Linux just doesn’t support.
Hi, nice info, but what about emulation (ps2, switch,etc...)
Question PRIME, wouldn't the games still look good if the res was 720p? Or is 1080p that noticeable on these screens?
Yh you can run them at 720p to get more fps then go to the And settings and upscale it to 1080.
To me the upscaling of this device looks more sharper than playing at native resolution.
@@Mystical_Deen cool beans
10:36 crazy looking doom eternal
Closest to $200 near me at Best Buy is $280 in fair (meaning broken sd card most likely)
This is the way -> dump windows carp
I'm thinking of doing the same thing but getting the extreme
are fluid motion on make it even better than that performance
I wonder if a battery model will ever be mainstreamed for this device
Is this the model that destroys the SDcards?
Why is Dirt 3 box art censored? 🤣🤣
Is the z1 better than the i7 1165u?
Simple answer is Yes
How did you change the way steam looks ?
If the z1 chip is stronger then the steam deck then I don't see why not use it with bazzite...but is the z1 stronger then the SteamDeck?
Pretty sure it is. The only thing ghe steam deck has going for it these days is the price and battery performance. And that screen
Can you try Bazzite on MSI Claw?
I have the AOKZOE AMD 6800U should i upgrade to AMD Z1 extreme. THX
Can I play gog and epic games on that Bazzite?
I would be concerned about the sd card in a 1st gen, but other than that pretty sweet
I have been using mine for 4 month now and I don't have any SD card issues
I don't know if the SD card issues are associated with the extreme version
Valve soon will release steamOS on ROG Ally
Battery is so brutal tho
I get 60 fps with Fsr 3 on Spiderman with the same device there is alot you not taking advantage of
224 bucks is a steal
for me it is a yes because i own a desktop gaming machine ryzen 5 5600 and rx 600 gpu and cup . i only use this too play games on my bed i seen one for like 300 i want one so bad . i use emulators on my
I'm from the EU to and at that price if i didn't have a laptop to go mobile i might just have picked it up
Z1 Extreme going used on Best Buy $358
Does Lossless scaling work with Linux esp for BazziteOS?
@@JaegerX87 I’ve heard that it only works on windows , not Linux yet
In Greece this version costs 437euro
@@kostasspanakis1032 and I bought it from Plaisio. Worth every penny.
So for 300$ brand new, not returned is a good deal .
Where did you find this for $225?
Sucks I can't find one used right now in Canada.
I'll wait till I can find something used and cheap. Don't really wanna give my money to ASUS.
Why the blur on the box at the beginning?
Possibly had personal identifying information of the seller I'm guessing
I wouldn't want to play graphics-heavy games on a handheld anyway.
Making that Ayn Odin2 look like terrible value
how about the stick grind and sd card burning issue?
I have been using the base Z1 for 4 month and I don't have any of those issues. At this point am beginning to think those issues comes with the extreme version
Since that what people where buying when the rog Ally was released
Hey guys I got a lcd 64gb steam deck is it worth it to game mostly on handheld with the regual rog z1 its on salr for 270$ just want to play some AAA games while in bed because the steam deck struggles so much