Does Genesis support polygamy? 10 Qs with Mike Winger (Ep 32)

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Комментарии • 32

  • @leah9127
    @leah9127 45 минут назад +14

    Thank you so much for your content. It helped me rebuild my foundations after a JW upbringing. I got baptised last Sunday 🎉 Keep up the great work. Gratitude & best wishes from North Wales.

    • @eclipsesonic
      @eclipsesonic 30 минут назад +1

      Hello fellow Welshman. I'm from South Wales. 👍God bless you on getting baptised by the way.

    • @theluckystoveshow
      @theluckystoveshow 26 минут назад +1

      Praise God!!!!❤

  • @alexanderplain3398
    @alexanderplain3398 23 минуты назад

    Thank you for your ministry Mike! I watch with my kiddos and your content has been such a blessing and service to our family. Love you brother!

  • @lordbealampontomyfeet9245
    @lordbealampontomyfeet9245 42 минуты назад +4

    Many wives many Gods, one wife one God, Christ!

  • @gregorywootton3870
    @gregorywootton3870 21 минуту назад +1

    Old Arab saying about wives, One is too many, 10 is not enough.

  • @capella95
    @capella95 12 минут назад

    One tiny error here. 6:46
    You got the verse a little wrong there, God places animals by sevens AND twos, depending if they are clean or unclean. Genesis 7:2
    How does an animal be unclean before Moses Law? I dont know, so could be something I am missing.
    No I am not a polygamist lol

  • @walterwalker8359
    @walterwalker8359 Минуту назад

    Adam and Eve are not the best example considering that God did not intend "Them" to multiply, but tend to the garden. In Genesis chapter 1, 6th day God created "Man and Woman" ... These creations were to "Be Fruitful and Multiply"... Adam was specific to the Garden not the World, and was not created for multiplication, which is why Eve was an afterthought...

  • @DChame-jh6hl
    @DChame-jh6hl 19 минут назад +1

    And I’m not arguing for the case of polygamy, most peoples understanding belief is merely out of lust and desire nothing holy or good.

  • @DChame-jh6hl
    @DChame-jh6hl 20 минут назад

    It was actually seven pairs of clean animals, which a lot of people seem to gloss over. And the reason being, because what we eat is clean meat only, clean food. Therefore to provide, more was needed.
    And yes if God never changes as stated in Malachi
    ““For I, the Lord, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.”
    ‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬ ‭
    Eating unclean is not of God.

    • @DChame-jh6hl
      @DChame-jh6hl 10 минут назад

      @DChame-jh6hl
      And I’m not arguing for the case of polygamy, most peoples understanding belief is merely out of lust and desire nothing holy or good.

    • @DChame-jh6hl
      @DChame-jh6hl 8 минут назад

      And yes the scripture says, even if the animals, a male and his female…
      “You shall take with you of every clean animal by sevens, a male and his female; and of the animals that are not clean two, a male and his female;”
      ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭7‬:‭2‬ ‭

  • @danieldeluca4936
    @danieldeluca4936 46 минут назад +3

    So many logical fallacies, it is hard to know where to start!

    • @KFish-bw1om
      @KFish-bw1om 42 минуты назад +8

      Yet you couldn't even come up with one. 🤔

    • @xbluesaintx
      @xbluesaintx 34 минуты назад

      Yeah. It would have been better for Mike to continue ignoring the topic.

    • @xbluesaintx
      @xbluesaintx 22 минуты назад

      ​@@KFish-bw1omThe "Creation Ideal" argument can be used to condemn almost everything.
      "Listen to this because it's so important. God never condones the preparation or consumption of Cheeseburgers. The are no cheeseburgers pre ribed in genesis. No man of God in the OT ever ate one. Not even the heathens ever ate them. This is powerful evidence of how degenerate the practice is. To this days the Jews do not allow it."

    • @DaveBurrBillChappelle
      @DaveBurrBillChappelle 13 минут назад +1

      In the pro polygamy position? I know right?!

  • @rj_corvo
    @rj_corvo 18 минут назад

    Mike, your comment about Noah AND his wife are beyond child bearing age (at 7:58) is not likely.
    The fact that Ham "saw his father's nakedness" and the author of this (Moses) is the same author of Leviticus, then you see that this idiom is used to mean that Ham slept with Noah's wife:
    Leviticus 18:8 (NASB2020)-You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife; it is your father’s nakedness.
    It is likely for this very reason that Noah cursed Canaan and why Noah constantly emphasizes the fact that Canaan is the son of Ham. (This act is a pattern in the OT with sons sleeping with the wife or concubine of their father, in order to usurp their father's authority.)
    Seems that at the LEAST Noah's wife was not beyond the age of child bearing.

  • @xbluesaintx
    @xbluesaintx 35 минут назад +1

    You beat up several polygamy strawmen today. Hopefully some day you'll give this topic the time and depth of study that the scripture deserves.

    • @IAmDLFL
      @IAmDLFL 21 минуту назад +2

      Care to provide examples or are you just going to throw out some vague accusations?

    • @davidbermudez7704
      @davidbermudez7704 15 минут назад

      Stop justifying your sinful lifestyle

    • @DaveBurrBillChappelle
      @DaveBurrBillChappelle 15 минут назад

      Hopefully some day you'll provide evidence for your accusations

  • @danieldeluca4936
    @danieldeluca4936 41 минуту назад +2

    I have said this before, on other videos, but I never got a response. Matt 19:9 in the Tyndale translation, dismantles your argument. Psalms 18:20-24 is solid proof that God sees nothing wrong with polygyny.

    • @colton7373
      @colton7373 13 минут назад

      @@danieldeluca4936 How is Psalm 18 solid proof 😂 That's absurd

  • @1Whipperin
    @1Whipperin 45 минут назад +1

    The Bible does not explicitly condemn polygyny, even in the New Testament! While church leaders are called to be monogamous (1 Timothy 3:2, Titus 1:6), nowhere does it forbid polygyny for the rest of society. In fact, the Old Testament acknowledges it, regulating it through laws (Exodus 21:10, Deuteronomy 21:15-17). Polygyny has served a practical role in stabilizing society-providing for women and children, especially in times of war or gender imbalances. It's time to acknowledge that this biblical practice offered real, tangible benefits to society, addressing issues many choose to ignore today.

    • @esthermazyopa7411
      @esthermazyopa7411 31 минуту назад +7

      @@1Whipperin just because the bible doesn't explicitly condemn something, doesn't make it okay. It also doesn't mean that God wants you to do it. The bible never explicitly condemned slavery but it was wrong. It was always God's design that ONE man should be married to ONE woman. There is also a reason why you don't see any polygamous marriages in the New Testament. The New Testament always refers to marriage as being monogamous. Statistically speaking monogamous marriages are far better for society and individuals as a whole. If we become lenient on one thing, then we can become lenient on many. I don't condemn any one that has entered into a polygamous marriage, but if you are a Bible believing Christian, you MUST be monogamous.

    • @1Whipperin
      @1Whipperin 15 минут назад

      @@esthermazyopa7411 Let’s address some critical misconceptions about biblical practices regarding marriage and slavery. Firstly, it's important to clarify that while the term "polygamy" often gets used, the Bible specifically does not condemn polygyny, which is the practice of a man having multiple wives. Polygyny was lawful and regulated in biblical times, with numerous examples found in the Old Testament. In contrast, polyandry (one woman with multiple husbands) was never a biblical practice.
      The assertion that “just because the Bible doesn’t condemn something doesn’t mean it’s okay” can be misleading. The Bible does not explicitly prohibit polygyny; rather, it outlines laws governing it, reflecting its acceptance in ancient societies.
      Similarly, the topic of slavery in the Bible deserves clarification. Biblical slavery was not the same as the modern understanding of slavery, which is rooted in exploitation and oppression. In biblical times, slavery was often a means of economic survival and protection, with laws designed to ensure humane treatment.
      Moreover, the claim that monogamous marriages are statistically superior to polygynous ones lacks substantive evidence. Both relationship structures can yield fulfilling outcomes, and there’s no conclusive data proving that monogamous marriages are better than polygyny.
      Ultimately, it’s essential to engage in these discussions with a clear understanding of the biblical context. Instead of imposing rigid standards that the Bible does not enforce, we should promote love, respect, and understanding for all individuals, regardless of their marital or societal choices.

  • @FireInHisBones
    @FireInHisBones 44 минуты назад +1

    Will a christian go to hell if he has two wives?