Thank you John, so many are quick to critique my opinion or things I didn't film, very few stop and think about the work that goes on behind the scenes... Cheers ❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 to give a dertailed break down on a how it drives,looks, feels, sounds etc whole getting aerial shots, numerous pics, drive bys and editing in other stuff around it all. Insane how you get it all done.
@@JoeAchilles1 people who did not made 1 minute of content on youtube have no idea how much work is behind these videos. But moat of the people apreciate what you do, so keep on doing 😊❤️👍
@@JoeAchilles1 you're definitely the go to guy for an honest car review in my opinion...flame them when they are shitty and praise them when they're good and not just bmw
Great review. Bmw are on a roll right now. My favourite recent M car remains the M2 CS however. Just love the way it looks even if the M4 is dynamically superior.
A remarkably good review 👍, despite the short time allocated by BMW. Nothing new here, this channel is consistently brilliant 👏. I can't wait to see a trackday review, even without a comparison with a Porsche GT3. Who cares about the GT3 anyway when you have an M4 CSL?😉
I still say the newer M3 and M4 models are basically GT cars now. Where as the M2 models are more sport-coupe oriented. As the owner of the original M2, it would feel a little weird slinging the newest M3 or M4 models around mountain roads that we have outside of Denver. I run Sport Cup 2 tires on my M2 and it's a joy to hustle around on those same roads.
@@teabagtowers3823 ofcourse, the only thing I found it to be missing was sound. I had ceramic brakes and carbon buckets these completely change the driving experience over comfort seats and non ceramic brakes. The g80 handling is honestly a completely different league of pace when comparing to the f80/f87. Swapped into a 992 4s now which is a different league all together in terms of driving dynamics and feedback.
We’ve had the whale tail since the 80s, now the duck tail. Aquatic mammals are secret petrolheads. Clearly they don’t believe in climate change either.
We all know BMW underrates their engines, the M3 comp makes like 500 to the wheels not the crank, knowing the tuning potential of the S58 I wouldn’t be surprised if the CSL is closer to 600 to the wheels. Bootmod3 recently posted a dyno of an S58 making 750 at the wheels with just downpipes and an e85 tune…
Great looking car, but what the fuck is it for? Far too fat for a lightweight special, not fantastically fast for a flagship, and hardly value for your hard-earned cash. 👎
Usual honest review but this car is not for shopping in!!! I would be terrified to get it scratched at the supermarket, but lovely motor Joe well done once more👍👍👍🚘🚘🚘🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@callummunro5400 it will most likely drive the price up even more for the original e46 csl. It’s definitely no lightweight compared to its older brother
Epic car! A lot of money, yes, but for those lucky people who have the money, why not? It'll likely hold its value at least, if not rise in the long term any way. By all accounts and Joe's review here, it's also a more usable daily the otherwise brilliant 911 GT3. Quality video as always Joe! 👍
@@R03333 Like I said, the CSL is a much better daily than the GT3. GT3 is brilliant on track and quiet & smooth deserted roads (if you can find them), but too harsh and noisy for day in, day out driving.
Wow, Joe. I can't get my head around how you put these together now. The quality is outstanding and better than most who have a whole team supporting them. Really engaging review too. Super job mate ;-)
Love your content Joe, well done. Think you lost your way a bit with your comparison to the 992 GT3. You simply can't compare a thoroughbred sports car with a GT car which carries a 200kg handicap. We know the the CSL is over 20 seconds slower around the green hell and little doubt that there's very few tracks that the CSL will post even similar times to the GT3. Horses for courses as they say.
I'm not a massive fan of the styling, but I had to admit, this spec is 🔥. Great video Joe! We need to meet up and do some content together at some point!
Wow it's like dream come true bcoz unbelievable car got reviewed be an unbelievable person aka Joe as always u nailed it brother I wish I could afford one until that I m happy with my m3 comp xdive love and greetings from Toronto Canada
Amazing work Joe. Great video as always. Really love how you can compare cars based on your experience. Looking forward to a video with the m4 CSL on track! 😃
DTM-Meister 2022 wurde am letzten WE in Hockenheim übrigens der einzige Tourenwagen gegenüber dem gesamten, übrigen Sportwagen-Classement. PS: Und den letzten Saisonlauf hat der andere Tourenwagen obendrein auch noch gewonnnen!
Superb video as always fella! Shame you didn’t get longer with it but you must have been in your element. Shame about the steering wheel haha if you struggle with it I’d hate to think what my little fingers would be like 🤣 lmao.
Great review Joe I've been waiting for you to do this one. I was lucky enough to look up close and sit in the bucket seat of this car at Goodwood and you could just tell that you were in a very special BMW product. You've captured the sound fantastically and people have to see that frozen grey to see what an amazing colour it is in the flesh. If I had the money I'd have this over a 911 or anything at that price point it is a very very special car and your review confirms that cheers.
Ill do a shortened version for you. One is PR exercise to cash in on the CSL emblem (one of their most coveted in their entire history) for their 50 year anniversary, the other is the greatest M3 ever produced full stop.
I don’t agree about the cup holder situation. If you want a daily go and buy a normal comp. This is about the fast lest version of the m4 there is. Get over a cup holder or two being missing
Hi Joe, quick question mate. As a weekend toy and occasional track car would you recommend the F80 M3 CS or the G80 M3 RWD? I saw how much you loved the M3 CS a few years ago but you also love the G80. Just wondering what you would genuinely choose out of the two. Thanks, Rich
Brilliant video, car looks fab. I look forward to your comparison with the Porche, you might like to see Matt from Czr Wow attempting a comparison with GT3, however Joe you really need to teach him how to drive it!
The race buckets are the ones to get. Unique to the M4 CSL (and CS?) and extremely comfortable once (manually and with tools) adjusted. I have them on mine and they are amazing. Definitely a must on the track but comfortable IMO for every day.
@@JoeAchilles1 I just did Chicago to Milwaukee and back (3 hrs)and the seats were perfect. I did change the angle drastically as the original setting was, as you said, very painful. Night and day… just FYI
I hope the instrument cluster screens don’t scratch as easily as the F87 one’s. Those are a nightmare to maintain. I believe looking at them is enough to scratch them 😆
I can't lie, I wish they would've gone further with the hardcoreness of the CSL, especially with it being the first CSL since the legendary E46. Realistically, no one is failing this or taking it to the shops with such limited production, so why not go all out?Imagine a stripped out G82 that weighs 1400-1500 kilos!
Can we just take a minute to appreciate how joe does all this on his own with a car for a few hours. Keep smashing the content pal. 👌
Thank you John, so many are quick to critique my opinion or things I didn't film, very few stop and think about the work that goes on behind the scenes... Cheers ❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 to give a dertailed break down on a how it drives,looks, feels, sounds etc whole getting aerial shots, numerous pics, drive bys and editing in other stuff around it all. Insane how you get it all done.
@@JoeAchilles1 people who did not made 1 minute of content on youtube have no idea how much work is behind these videos. But moat of the people apreciate what you do, so keep on doing 😊❤️👍
My thoughts exactly. amazing
@@JoeAchilles1 you're definitely the go to guy for an honest car review in my opinion...flame them when they are shitty and praise them when they're good and not just bmw
For a one man band, the editing here is quite impressive. Proper motoring journalism.
Thank you 👊
Great review. Bmw are on a roll right now. My favourite recent M car remains the M2 CS however. Just love the way it looks even if the M4 is dynamically superior.
3:11 damn, the wheel kerbed already!
Well spotted, mate!
Keen eye.
A remarkably good review 👍, despite the short time allocated by BMW. Nothing new here, this channel is consistently brilliant 👏.
I can't wait to see a trackday review, even without a comparison with a Porsche GT3. Who cares about the GT3 anyway when you have an M4 CSL?😉
Thank you buddy 👊♥️
I still say the newer M3 and M4 models are basically GT cars now. Where as the M2 models are more sport-coupe oriented. As the owner of the original M2, it would feel a little weird slinging the newest M3 or M4 models around mountain roads that we have outside of Denver. I run Sport Cup 2 tires on my M2 and it's a joy to hustle around on those same roads.
Avoid m5s like driving a bus
Yes, M3 is like M5 nowadays. 2 is new 3. 5 and 7 is who knows what
Having had a g80 m3 recently, I can confirm it would run rings around your m2 on a mountain/back road.
@@Bad8oy Yeah but would you be having more fun?
@@teabagtowers3823 ofcourse, the only thing I found it to be missing was sound. I had ceramic brakes and carbon buckets these completely change the driving experience over comfort seats and non ceramic brakes.
The g80 handling is honestly a completely different league of pace when comparing to the f80/f87.
Swapped into a 992 4s now which is a different league all together in terms of driving dynamics and feedback.
So Car Magazine had this car, then Mat Watson from Car Wow, then you. One press Car to go around.
Favourite thing for me is the rear end, that ducktail spoiler is fantastic. Quite the machine.
Agreed, I want one for the M3 🫣
We’ve had the whale tail since the 80s, now the duck tail. Aquatic mammals are secret petrolheads. Clearly they don’t believe in climate change either.
We all know BMW underrates their engines, the M3 comp makes like 500 to the wheels not the crank, knowing the tuning potential of the S58 I wouldn’t be surprised if the CSL is closer to 600 to the wheels.
Bootmod3 recently posted a dyno of an S58 making 750 at the wheels with just downpipes and an e85 tune…
Great looking car, but what the fuck is it for? Far too fat for a lightweight special, not fantastically fast for a flagship, and hardly value for your hard-earned cash. 👎
Good thing they won't be selling 1 2 u.
I’m picking mine up in 2 days. Saw it for real a few days ago. Absolutely beautiful piece of engineering.
Great content as always.
Can't help but think £130k for no better performance than an Alfa quadrifoglio..
Usual honest review but this car is not for shopping in!!! I would be terrified to get it scratched at the supermarket, but lovely motor Joe well done once more👍👍👍🚘🚘🚘🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
That's why you wrap it in ppf. It's just a car.
The m3 e46 csl is still my joint favourite bmw of all time along with the 1M. It will take years for this to become as special
Well said, that man.
Yeah can’t imagine this will ever be as special. It’s got an automatic gearbox and is over 1.6 tonnes. Not exactly a true CSL.
@@callummunro5400 it will most likely drive the price up even more for the original e46 csl. It’s definitely no lightweight compared to its older brother
Epic car! A lot of money, yes, but for those lucky people who have the money, why not? It'll likely hold its value at least, if not rise in the long term any way. By all accounts and Joe's review here, it's also a more usable daily the otherwise brilliant 911 GT3. Quality video as always Joe! 👍
Thank you 👊
Gt3 all the way
Nothing close to a GT3, maybe in pace but even then I'm not sure
@@R03333 Like I said, the CSL is a much better daily than the GT3. GT3 is brilliant on track and quiet & smooth deserted roads (if you can find them), but too harsh and noisy for day in, day out driving.
Awesome review Joe once again. What a special kit the M4CSL is.
Wicked looking car
If I’m not mistaken was that filmed around Ashridge Park in Hertfordshire
I'm Kagiso Clerence from South Africa I must Joe does a phenomenal review of cars
Love it! I am not a fan of the stripes, but the car is amazing! Thanks for a great test Joe!
Thanks for watching 👊
Stunning awesome mean machine! Joe...u've chuckled a great deal in this review..just adds that special touch👌👌👌
respect from Chicago
Wow, Joe. I can't get my head around how you put these together now. The quality is outstanding and better than most who have a whole team supporting them. Really engaging review too. Super job mate ;-)
I know new GT3s are nearly impossible to find but for this price tag range there is no question which one I would get
Love your content Joe, well done. Think you lost your way a bit with your comparison to the 992 GT3. You simply can't compare a thoroughbred sports car with a GT car which carries a 200kg handicap. We know the the CSL is over 20 seconds slower around the green hell and little doubt that there's very few tracks that the CSL will post even similar times to the GT3. Horses for courses as they say.
I own a g82 M4 Comp and I love the front splitter on the CSL. I am going to buy an aftermarket copy and put it on my car.
Good review!
Ive just got one on mine, very please with it.
@@rossjuniper3610 do you have photos? I would be super interested in seeing it and also knowing where you got it?
Excellent car BMW once again hit the mark, joe do you know if Alpina now owned by BMW are going to trick up the great 850 competition.
I'm not a massive fan of the styling, but I had to admit, this spec is 🔥. Great video Joe! We need to meet up and do some content together at some point!
Worth every penny! Great review/video Joe 👏🏻👏🏻
Wow it's like dream come true bcoz unbelievable car got reviewed be an unbelievable person aka Joe as always u nailed it brother I wish I could afford one until that I m happy with my m3 comp xdive love and greetings from Toronto Canada
Great review Joe, I can’t wait for mine to arrive in a few weeks
It seems extremly, this exotic BMW-CSL on public Landstreets for DRIVERS is the fastest Vehicle ever...
Landstreets...LOL. Brush your anglais.
Joe ❤ you are a master ..and your love of cars is awesome 😎 I never liked BMW now I want one
Amazing work Joe. Great video as always. Really love how you can compare cars based on your experience. Looking forward to a video with the m4 CSL on track! 😃
That grill is surely growing on me. Thanks for the review Joe.
Great video Joe. Thanks for sharing.
Definitely special. Or Trick
It'd be no where near a 992 GT3 around a circuit. I reckon 3-4 seconds slower around most circuits minimum.
No surprise there. The 992 GT3 is much the smaller car and 200 kg lighter. That's a massive difference for track performance.
No, but a better way to look at the car is that it is a much more special version of the M4... rather than its numbers.
what a car 😊❤ even if you are not a petrolhead you can't love this car
Great video
DTM-Meister 2022 wurde am letzten WE in Hockenheim übrigens der einzige Tourenwagen gegenüber dem gesamten, übrigen Sportwagen-Classement.
PS: Und den letzten Saisonlauf hat der andere Tourenwagen obendrein auch noch gewonnnen!
this car dont deserve the csl name plate, this is a extremely low effort by BMW.
What a monster...
Yes Joe is.
Superb video as always fella! Shame you didn’t get longer with it but you must have been in your element.
Shame about the steering wheel haha if you struggle with it I’d hate to think what my little fingers would be like 🤣 lmao.
Anyone else would rather have the E46 CLS?
We need a track competition with this and Alfa gtam 😉
Great review Joe I've been waiting for you to do this one. I was lucky enough to look up close and sit in the bucket seat of this car at Goodwood and you could just tell that you were in a very special BMW product. You've captured the sound fantastically and people have to see that frozen grey to see what an amazing colour it is in the flesh. If I had the money I'd have this over a 911 or anything at that price point it is a very very special car and your review confirms that cheers.
Great review thanks
It is more than impressive how one person can create this level of content.
Joe massive thank you for your hard work and dedication.
Looking forward to the Nordeshleife content.
Great appraisal as always Joe.👌
Epic 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Joe ❤ you are a master ..and your love of cars is awesome 😎 I never liked BMW now I want one
💪💪💪👏
Obviously stripped the sound deadening! Audio is shocking. Waste of money IMO
Excellent video as always. This CSL is absolutely insane.
They were marketing this at spa 24h, 170.000€, that’s a bit ludicrous
Hey Joe, excellent content as always. Would really like to see a comparison drive between this and an E46 M3 CSL 👍
Ill do a shortened version for you. One is PR exercise to cash in on the CSL emblem (one of their most coveted in their entire history) for their 50 year anniversary, the other is the greatest M3 ever produced full stop.
@@PaleD talking as if you drove it 😂
Epic content as ever.
Gave you wave earlier in the week on the roof of the car park. Good to see the video out!
///MPower 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻❤
For half a century & why Daimler had 2 bi AMG.
*The car has been teasing Joe loved that comment* 🤣
Epic content as ever 🏆🏆
Great car great review Joe...
Great video Joe
Best stress buster Joe Boss!! Loads of love from India 😘😘
Incredible car! As always smashing video Joe!
Hideous
And not particularly fast either
More input from trolls who will never c nor drive 1, what part of IRRELEVANT don't u understand?
Come on Joe, which is quicker M4 CSL in gear acceleration or M5 Comp ?
What do you think is better after driving both this and m5cs. Which one do you prefer out of the two?
Next dream car. 💪🏻
Sweet car, boring colors. Give us reds and blues, not gray and black.
Well, you seemed to enjoy the M2 Comp, back in the day you tested it, a lot more than this M4. And I understand it, tbh
I don’t agree about the cup holder situation. If you want a daily go and buy a normal comp. This is about the fast lest version of the m4 there is. Get over a cup holder or two being missing
I would never buy a car that didn’t have a coffee cup holder.
And that applies to a centre console armrest too.
Good for you 👌
This car needs intravenous, for adrenalin>caffeine!
That curbed alloy at 3:09 looks painful!
Great content Joe!
Great video. Good demeanour. Subscribed
Hi Joe, quick question mate. As a weekend toy and occasional track car would you recommend the F80 M3 CS or the G80 M3 RWD? I saw how much you loved the M3 CS a few years ago but you also love the G80. Just wondering what you would genuinely choose out of the two. Thanks, Rich
Absolutely fantastic video. I’m talking my BMW to the Nurburgring next week 😊
But have they brought back the CF driveshaft for this CSL that was introduced on the base model F80/82 back in 2015?
Mate, where are these roads!? Looks fantastic
This car is lovely, I will have one someday.
Brilliant video, car looks fab. I look forward to your comparison with the Porche, you might like to see Matt from Czr Wow attempting a comparison with GT3, however Joe you really need to teach him how to drive it!
Now Joe is happy 🤩💰
The cs grille on a black G80 will look really good
The CSL isn't even on the same planet as the GT3.
Nurburgring GT3: 6m 55.737
Nurburgring CSL: 7m 15.667
GT3 also costs twice as much in the US with dealer mark ups
@@jean-pierred1094 and since Team Schirmer just ran a 6:53:5 BTG, in a modified M4, the justification for double the price, really isn't there.
Beast 🔥
Great vid big man, intros and drive bys are always top notch!
The race buckets are the ones to get. Unique to the M4 CSL (and CS?) and extremely comfortable once (manually and with tools) adjusted. I have them on mine and they are amazing.
Definitely a must on the track but comfortable IMO for every day.
Disagree, certainly better on track when harnessed in and set perfectly right, pain in the arse (literally) for daily duties.
@@JoeAchilles1 I just did Chicago to Milwaukee and back (3 hrs)and the seats were perfect. I did change the angle drastically as the original setting was, as you said, very painful. Night and day… just FYI
Just saw this car in person in the showroom in Fort Myers, FL It was a real "Wow" moment.
Joe for president😁Great content✌️
This is bmw at its best, still hate the grilles though
The gt3 is 20 seconds faster on the Ring, it is another league! Not even comparing with an m4 csl!
Enjoy ur VW.
@@unowen-nh9ov Porsche is not Vw. And Porsche is the name to beat in all aspects. Go drive your little scared bmw.
I can only dream, but thanks Joe for the vid... What a machine!
does it look better than the previous m4 CS in lem rock grey though? I think not!
It's sooo quiet from outside 🙈
I hope the instrument cluster screens don’t scratch as easily as the F87 one’s. Those are a nightmare to maintain. I believe looking at them is enough to scratch them 😆
Nice G Shock! Great review as always big man.
audi rs3 faster 0-60!
They have a 4 door version?
Yes rekon mesh would look better to. Nice car thanx.
I can't lie, I wish they would've gone further with the hardcoreness of the CSL, especially with it being the first CSL since the legendary E46. Realistically, no one is failing this or taking it to the shops with such limited production, so why not go all out?Imagine a stripped out G82 that weighs 1400-1500 kilos!