Armada's response: Optimal; nothing unnecessary. Mew2king's response: Simplified to an A versus B equation. PP's response: Dissects the entire scope of the person's playstyle, their strengths and weaknesses. Mango's response: He plays gay.
+Radiohead203U29 Why would you put it in quotes if it's not a quote? He said that hbox plays really safe, you know what he's going for but you can't do anything about it. It's annoying, but if you get annoyed then he really gets in your head. That's a pretty honest description, and a lot more precise than just "he plays gay".
When I watched the graduation speech and highschool story. And Hbox is being really humble and has worked his a$$ off to get where he is. But he just gets hate for it. Whereas just because Mang0 has a "cooler" playstyle he is considered the hero of melee and his wins are celebrated. And he's just like "Oh yeah I didn't do my homework and got alot of b!tches" but I don't buy it, after what HBox's Dad said that sort of broke his heart. But he persevered and got here today, but Mang0 worked hard but is up his own a$$
@@GooberzTetris mango is a goat and so is hbox. Get off mangos meat idk y u saying he’s up his own a**. When u win as much as he does, u should be allowed to be as confident as u want
After every interview with Armada or PP i've only grown to love them more. These players exhibit the fundamentals of sportmanship and I can only wish to see more of them
Cogg how does mang0 saying that hbox can't represent America = "mango is the only one that can"... and as I said on other comment threads, on stream he gives hella props to hbox. I get that you can't say that, but he's saying that the 'people' don't get too hype when he wins. I'm not completely defending him, but in no way is he saying that he's the only one that can rep USA. If Sfat or pewpewu, or any other American besides Hbox took Dreamhack he wouldn't have said anything like it.
I love how all of the gods are completely different people and nothing alike You have Armada who is the respectful guy, PPMD who is the honest guy, Mew2King who is the calculative guy and Mango who is the passive guy atleast in this conversation
+Neal Kim Hey he corrected himself pretty quickly.... when you come from a country as massive as the US, you sometime even just briefly imagine that Europe is all one country. But then he caught his mistake and corrected it.
Neal Kim Sometimes ignorance is just the different perspective of someone who was raised in a completely different environment than you. You're entitled to your own opinion though, I for one appreciated that he corrected himself. Armada didn't seem to mind much either, he sort of just laughed it off.
+Hikigaya He seems pretty cool. Half the time I see him as a fun guy I would want to hang out with. The other half of the time I can't help but to see him as sort of a bully for hating on Hbox as often as he has.
***** I know right? If Mango really likes another player you can tell by his body language. He'll give them a fist bump before a match to let them know that there aren't any hard feelings. He barely acknowledges Hbox when they play... Plus he's the one who keeps the rivalry going, even though it's really not necessary at this point. I mean going as far as to say that America lost when Hbox won? That's just mean.
+darkwasabi2 Well mango is a very real person, he doesn't try to hide the way he feels; he never holds back. And honestly if you're not fond of someone you can't just expect him to feign interest and pretend to be friends. At least he's no longer an ass to him. And I have seen them hug after a tourney for whatever thats worth.
Dragon Bullets hbox has just never had that attached to him, the crowd starts singing the national anthem with mang0, it’s just different with hbox, maybe that’s because people don’t really like him, maybe it’s because of the history mango has and the whole armada vs mango and Europe vs America deal, or it could be a combination of both and other things
I remember watching this live and as soon as D1 brought up Jiggs to D1, the entire chat just turned into All because one guy put a camera in his face and put him on the spot, amazing.
+narutouzumakijoshua Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't feel closer to Argentina than he does the states? not to justify Mang0, it was still messed up to say.
"Hungrybox have very very good patience" Cut to Mango: "Yep" "and he has a playstyle and he's never forfeiting that playstyle" Later: "...Pretty much what Adam said nailed it pretty well"
+Zeus Pluchino He is a member of the "Big 6" but the "Gods" were established well before he was any good, referring only to these 5 players. People would call him the "God slayer" instead
Joeyboiification Oh i see. I thought he was god slayer, but then people just started calling him, a god/ and DerMeisterXZ He's one plenty. Not as much because he wasn't super good for the same about as time. And he's consistently beat them before. Like for a pretty long time, he was just the best but that armada started to happen so. Like he's better than M2K, Mang0 for sure. And he could probably beat PP but PP's pretty good. He used to able to beat PP and HBox, and Armada he used to be the best. He's was beyond there level, now he's just on it.
im pretty unbiased overall when it comes to players (i.e. not a mango fanatic, leffen hater, etc.), and i feel like they shouldnt hate on hbox as much as they do, just because they dont like his defensive (and kinda lame) play style. maybe he's a dick or something and i just dont know about that, which then id understand, but some people just HATE him. i feel like people get too caught up in the hype and trash talk and stuff (which i think is great for games in general) and take it too far. they seem to forget its a person holding the controller
Armada used Peach before using Fox. Also I can't see myself playing Melee because its community, looking from the outside, seems to favor braindead aggression just because it's 'sick', so much that they can't comprehend any other playstyle.
This video basically made it clear that both PPMD and Mango really genuinely don't like hungrybox as a player or a person. Look at the way PP looks at mago when he asks then about hbox as a person outside of the game. That plus what PP said about being civil 100 and what Mango said about "America winning" completely confirms it.
I think PP cares about pretty much everyone. He said some nice things about Hbox. Also his civil comment didn't pertain to him and the reason he looked at Mang0 is because PP expected him to say something negative.
@@bennoboy97 a lot of things have changed over the past 4 years since this comment was posted. There is actually an entire documentary about Hbox regarding why a lot of the community hated him and how it's getting better.
I was just saying my response in jest. I was just poking at the irony of the whole situation. Looking back at it, I just feel like PP must regret saying that. Especially since he roomed with HBox.
I know they won't hate each other or anything serious. I was just saying he might look back at that video and feel kinda stupid. I was just thinking he would look back and think "Man, I should have kept my mouth shut." I mean everyone else can look back, along with HBox. I'm not saying him and HBox will fight due to it. I just thought PP might feel like an idiot for saying something so silly.
I get it. I just feel like anyone would look back and think about the tournament results and be like, if someone didn't think that this was a joke, I would look really stupid to them. I understand that Kevin is a funny guy. All anyone needs to do is look at the Smash Summit Four Gods Commentary to figure that out.
I was just poking fun at how the whole situation turned out in my original post. I wasn't trying to stir up an argument about how PP was joking. Take my earlier comment with a grain of salt.
He beat everyone in this room dude. Just because you're butthurt about Leffen being good doesn't mean you should not give credit to people who earned it.
despite the legendary beef between hbox and mango, when ppmd says hbox doesn't deserve a spot with the five gods mango defends him and trashes ppmd on the way. Mad Respect.
+Nitish Chauhan I wouldn't call that defending. He basically said he was happy Hbox won only because Armada also lost at the same time. He's more supportive of Armada losing than he is of Hbox winning.
+August Celine III Really? Because from what i've witnessed Mango almost always has told Armada to win a tournament if Armada eliminates him at a national in loser's bracket. I suppose Mango wants America to win now and doesn't want Armada to potentially surpass his legacy.
+KariKi Cutie In all honesty, Armada and Mango seemingly have the closest relationship amongst the top 6 despite being from different countries. It's just Mango wanting Armada to lose was simply because he is a patriot and Armada was winning every tournament since, which challenges his GOAT status. So yeah, you are probably right.
KariKi Cutie I came to that conclusion solely based on what Mango said in this video. He said that when Hbox won, America didn't win. He also said Armada needed to lose more often, but I agree what they have is more of a friendly rivalry. In comparison what Mango and Hbox have is more of a cancerous rivalry.
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Armada's response: Optimal; nothing unnecessary.
Mew2king's response: Simplified to an A versus B equation.
PP's response: Dissects the entire scope of the person's playstyle, their strengths and weaknesses.
Mango's response: He plays gay.
Really shows their playstyles
Fit is so funny because it's so impossibly TRUE! Melee is just that beautiful and awesome of a game nothing else like it
+Radiohead203U29 funny thing was that a few years back Armada called puff gay
yep shows what type of person mango is.
+Radiohead203U29 Why would you put it in quotes if it's not a quote? He said that hbox plays really safe, you know what he's going for but you can't do anything about it. It's annoying, but if you get annoyed then he really gets in your head. That's a pretty honest description, and a lot more precise than just "he plays gay".
LOL when PPMD implies that they had been shit talking Hbox before the cameras started rolling....
I think they meant they were shit-talking PPMD since he was the previous segment.
i laughed so hard when mango just smiled and said "yup" to armada's patience comment.
cuz you know mang0 is just thinking “patience just means he plays like a bitch” and that’s the mang
I think the very last thing, what Mew2King said, broke my heart a little bit. Poor guy gets a lot of shit but he has his own problems to deal with.
@MrGhoulington Not the last seconds, you can here M2K says "the generalconcepts applies to me"
MrGhoulington think again sir
He gets so much hate for being the best with a pink blob, and not being sick.
PP with the call out.
Pp dropping out before top eight
+Trevor Ratchford PP with the drop out.
+Bryan Dang PP FOR PRESIDENT
+dahuterschuter I feel like PP is actually really eloquent. Am I the only one who gets that impression?
+August Celine III He has a Ph.D. so his vocabulary is probably decently expanded.
LOL mango looks so broken. Even his hair is so floppy.
+SIMIFU hes just been chillin in the lab for this 2016 run dood
+SIMIFU He is broken, pls nerf.
+SIMIFU He just looks like regular mango imo
+DarkLeviathan8 its a joke lol
Mike ward sous ecoute gang mon DarkLeviathan8!!!
0:45
"Yup."
Armada and PP are both respectful adults, Mew2King is an awkward nerd, and Mango is a teenager that refuses to grow up
When I watched the graduation speech and highschool story. And Hbox is being really humble and has worked his a$$ off to get where he is. But he just gets hate for it. Whereas just because Mang0 has a "cooler" playstyle he is considered the hero of melee and his wins are celebrated. And he's just like "Oh yeah I didn't do my homework and got alot of b!tches" but I don't buy it, after what HBox's Dad said that sort of broke his heart. But he persevered and got here today, but Mang0 worked hard but is up his own a$$
Awkward nerd? You sound like teenager that refuses to glo up lol. probly also an awkard nerd as well im sure
@@GooberzTetris mango is a goat and so is hbox. Get off mangos meat idk y u saying he’s up his own a**. When u win as much as he does, u should be allowed to be as confident as u want
bro holy shit m2k has a social dissorder lmfao hbox is my favorite player but still dont pull a mango and be a dick
lmaooooo cope
PPMD SO RESPECTFUL, I like that.
Damn i love ppmd
Who else thought first time watching this HBOx was behind the Cardboard cutout
After every interview with Armada or PP i've only grown to love them more. These players exhibit the fundamentals of sportmanship and I can only wish to see more of them
Too bad they both don't play anymore
PP was the most emotionally mature smasher of his time, zero question about it.
Love how PPMD just straight up look to Mang0 in 4:04 knowing he is gonna trash talk about Hbox jajajaja
M2k just sitting there, staring into the void
Apparently only Mango is allowed to represent his country c:
+Cogg Mang0 said that if M2K won an EVO he wouldn't mind. like he wouldn't be mad about that.
+JustAPerson I don't know who would be mad if m2k won
right that's kinda narcissistic. like he is the only one that can represent usa
Momentai no I don't and that's pretty much what he said I did like him before but now I see that he is an ass hole
Cogg how does mang0 saying that hbox can't represent America = "mango is the only one that can"... and as I said on other comment threads, on stream he gives hella props to hbox. I get that you can't say that, but he's saying that the 'people' don't get too hype when he wins. I'm not completely defending him, but in no way is he saying that he's the only one that can rep USA. If Sfat or pewpewu, or any other American besides Hbox took Dreamhack he wouldn't have said anything like it.
PPMD's gr8 m8
+Aaron Bayona Duude, that answer he gave about HBox being there was gold! xDDD
M2K was talking way too much!
Lol m2k
+JosephsDaily thatsthejoke.jpg
@@TheJosephDaily r/woosh
4:44 mew2king thinking about:Why im so freaking sexy...?
lmao
lmfao
I love how all of the gods are completely different people and nothing alike
You have Armada who is the respectful guy, PPMD who is the honest guy, Mew2King who is the calculative guy and Mango who is the passive guy
atleast in this conversation
+gameandflogchannel Change honest to eloquent for PPMD, and passive to passive aggressive for Mango, and I agree with you completely.
Mango is anything but passive lol.
I love hbox, he will be for ever the best melee player
d1: "europe, your country" ahahahahahahaha
+Neal Kim Hey he corrected himself pretty quickly.... when you come from a country as massive as the US, you sometime even just briefly imagine that Europe is all one country. But then he caught his mistake and corrected it.
that's just ignorance to me
Neal Kim Sometimes ignorance is just the different perspective of someone who was raised in a completely different environment than you. You're entitled to your own opinion though, I for one appreciated that he corrected himself. Armada didn't seem to mind much either, he sort of just laughed it off.
+August Celine III yeah I agree with you
Neal Kim Cool cool.
Mango is hilarious dude
+Hikigaya He seems pretty cool. Half the time I see him as a fun guy I would want to hang out with. The other half of the time I can't help but to see him as sort of a bully for hating on Hbox as often as he has.
***** I know right? If Mango really likes another player you can tell by his body language. He'll give them a fist bump before a match to let them know that there aren't any hard feelings. He barely acknowledges Hbox when they play... Plus he's the one who keeps the rivalry going, even though it's really not necessary at this point. I mean going as far as to say that America lost when Hbox won? That's just mean.
+darkwasabi2 Well mango is a very real person, he doesn't try to hide the way he feels; he never holds back. And honestly if you're not fond of someone you can't just expect him to feign interest and pretend to be friends. At least he's no longer an ass to him. And I have seen them hug after a tourney for whatever thats worth.
PP is such a nice guy
wow mango, back at it again with the salt.
"When Hungrybox win, America didn't win" lamo
+kungensimon Of course America won, Mango was just being salty. He likes to think he has exclusive rights to the national pride gimmick...
Laughing ass my off
August Celine III as a true American it doesn't feel like we win when hbox wins
@@Remsis115 yeah cause mango is the sickest apparently. Hbox is too gay for you
Dragon Bullets hbox has just never had that attached to him, the crowd starts singing the national anthem with mang0, it’s just different with hbox, maybe that’s because people don’t really like him, maybe it’s because of the history mango has and the whole armada vs mango and Europe vs America deal, or it could be a combination of both and other things
I like how you can tell what their like by the way they sit
@0:30 m2k is like "yeah I missed it"
when it flashed to mango and his hair was legit just all over his face I laughed so hard
“I feel like I know Hungrybox more than I know Juan.”
Damn.
*Zain enters the chatroom*
*Mortals aren't allowed to meddle in the makings of gods*
3:07 I feel you Armada...
if i look at m2k, i can't stop laughing all the time :D
+cross25011990 he sitting in such a low power stance which is pretty funny
0:15 LOOOOOOOOL PP's reaction to D1 not remembering the words at first
3:21 lol armada winked at him lmao
3:15 is he referencing the vid where armada calls puff gay? lol
Ah so many vods are gonna contain the people who are no longer in the community
Y-yeah.. :/
That beeping tho.
I honestly cant tell if I love mang0 or hate him. but dang he is hilarious
These questions were actually savage
htuy42 d1 asked same questions about every god not just hbox
0:10
LOL!!!
Look at Mew2King's FACE though!!!
¿Battle of 5 Gods? ¡THIS IS THE REAL CIVIL WAR MEN!
I remember watching this live and as soon as D1 brought up Jiggs to D1, the entire chat just turned into
All because one guy put a camera in his face and put him on the spot, amazing.
D1 brought up Jiggs to D1?
D1 brought up Jiggs to D1?
Hah...I need to not post late at night.
to the Five Gods*
+BacklogAddict Oh haha
PPMD sounds like a genious
"When hbox won Dreamhack, America didn't win, hbox won" Hello? Now I usually love mango but that was too far what the fuck
I know right
+narutouzumakijoshua Naw it's true hbox is a weiner
+narutouzumakijoshua Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't feel closer to Argentina than he does the states? not to justify Mang0, it was still messed up to say.
+Adam Smith they're both weiners lol.
Salt
"Hungrybox have very very good patience"
Cut to Mango: "Yep"
"and he has a playstyle and he's never forfeiting that playstyle"
Later: "...Pretty much what Adam said nailed it pretty well"
What an iconic interview
lmao @Mang0's "I know nothing" and smirk.
jason talked for maybe 10 seconds lol, typical m2k fashion
I love PP's personality. Yes
There goes Jason being emotionless as always
"5 gods" rip Leffen
+Zeus Pluchino Leffen is not a god.
DerMeisterXZ He totally is at this point
+Zeus Pluchino He is a member of the "Big 6" but the "Gods" were established well before he was any good, referring only to these 5 players. People would call him the "God slayer" instead
How many majors has he won compared to the gods? What are his records compared to the gods? He's just not on their level yet.
Joeyboiification Oh i see. I thought he was god slayer, but then people just started calling him, a god/ and DerMeisterXZ He's one plenty. Not as much because he wasn't super good for the same about as time. And he's consistently beat them before. Like for a pretty long time, he was just the best but that armada started to happen so. Like he's better than M2K, Mang0 for sure. And he could probably beat PP but PP's pretty good. He used to able to beat PP and HBox, and Armada he used to be the best. He's was beyond there level, now he's just on it.
0:17 why did he make that face? lol
+Matthew Fisher D1 said "EG" first so PP was probably waiting for "Evil Geniuses"
lol m2k moment at the end tho.
Small video glitch in the bottom left at 3:26, couple of frames.
Thank you for letting everyone know 👍
Hungrybox looking as deep as his playstyle rn Kapaa
Where can I get an HBox cardboard cut out?
Pp is smart
where can I watch the entire conversation?
+Monte Kristo this was the entire conversation, the end of it was a little awkward so it seems like there's more
+TeamScoop i think he means all of there discussions
Doge Dogerson
exactly
+Monte Kristo it looked like something was edited out of pp's turn
D1's Reaction when PP said HBox shouldn't be there 2:21
at that last part, PPMD was talking about Hbox or Leffen?
Am I going crazy or is this interlaced?
did something get edited out of ppmd's turn
PPMD Shorts seems to be a little different
I can't tell why Kappa
Mango get a haircut
NO
NO
M2K zoning out the whole time
His spacing was perfect in this interview was perfect and he had the hard reads
im pretty unbiased overall when it comes to players (i.e. not a mango fanatic, leffen hater, etc.), and i feel like they shouldnt hate on hbox as much as they do, just because they dont like his defensive (and kinda lame) play style. maybe he's a dick or something and i just dont know about that, which then id understand, but some people just HATE him. i feel like people get too caught up in the hype and trash talk and stuff (which i think is great for games in general) and take it too far. they seem to forget its a person holding the controller
Armada used Peach before using Fox. Also I can't see myself playing Melee because its community, looking from the outside, seems to favor braindead aggression just because it's 'sick', so much that they can't comprehend any other playstyle.
This video basically made it clear that both PPMD and Mango really genuinely don't like hungrybox as a player or a person. Look at the way PP looks at mago when he asks then about hbox as a person outside of the game. That plus what PP said about being civil 100 and what Mango said about "America winning" completely confirms it.
I think PP cares about pretty much everyone. He said some nice things about Hbox. Also his civil comment didn't pertain to him and the reason he looked at Mang0 is because PP expected him to say something negative.
I really don't like Hbox from what I've seen from him, but goddamn if I don't want to take PPs word for it and see hbox if a different way.
+Angel Flores I know right? PPMD is eloquent as fuck.
I really dont understand what people have against hungrybox
@@bennoboy97 a lot of things have changed over the past 4 years since this comment was posted. There is actually an entire documentary about Hbox regarding why a lot of the community hated him and how it's getting better.
wheres is the hbox comment ?
I love mew2king bruh
Why did you have to say that PPMD? You didn't even make it to the top 8 tournament, and HBox won the whole thing!
I was just saying my response in jest. I was just poking at the irony of the whole situation. Looking back at it, I just feel like PP must regret saying that. Especially since he roomed with HBox.
I know they won't hate each other or anything serious. I was just saying he might look back at that video and feel kinda stupid. I was just thinking he would look back and think "Man, I should have kept my mouth shut." I mean everyone else can look back, along with HBox. I'm not saying him and HBox will fight due to it. I just thought PP might feel like an idiot for saying something so silly.
I get it. I just feel like anyone would look back and think about the tournament results and be like, if someone didn't think that this was a joke, I would look really stupid to them. I understand that Kevin is a funny guy. All anyone needs to do is look at the Smash Summit Four Gods Commentary to figure that out.
I was just poking fun at how the whole situation turned out in my original post. I wasn't trying to stir up an argument about how PP was joking. Take my earlier comment with a grain of salt.
This conversation happened before HBox got there tho. I saw it aired on the second day.
Where's my boy Leffen at tho.
Not sure if this is a prank or not, but he has been having VISA issues so he can't travel to America
let me zayam the cream with cheese Shit, I just checked his twitter. That sucks. I hope he can get it sorted out.
Mang0 will be salty about Hbox until the day he dies I think
Times have changed. I'm from the future
mango really hates hungry
Azur Wrought its a meme
I thought that was idubbz for a minute 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pp put on a few Didn't he
Still beautiful
+CP Adagio Ikr
Where's Leffy Leff?
He isn't a god.
He beat everyone in this room dude. Just because you're butthurt about Leffen being good doesn't mean you should not give credit to people who earned it.
+lambmaster27 Deported thats where
Just looked it up, wow what a bunch of bullshit.
+guydooeinfinity Aren't you considered a smash god if you win a tournament where there are smash gods present?
PPMD is a good guy
Duuuuuude, PPMD XDDD
i feel like no one likes hbox rip
despite the legendary beef between hbox and mango, when ppmd says hbox doesn't deserve a spot with the five gods mango defends him and trashes ppmd on the way. Mad Respect.
wtf pp was literally joking about hbox's absense and making no real judgement against him
Listening comprehension.
PPMD he said he shouldn't be there that day because he's got more important errands to run.
PPMD is kind
D1 no
Aww, no leffen
Mute2King
One more away from 1k subs
D1 calling europe a country...
If sakurai named "smashbros" "bangbros"
Would the creator of "bangbros" name "bangbros" "smashbros"
🤔
Take M2K out of the title haha
I mis PPMD
mango defending hbox :D:D
he seems pretty salty to me
+Nitish Chauhan I wouldn't call that defending. He basically said he was happy Hbox won only because Armada also lost at the same time. He's more supportive of Armada losing than he is of Hbox winning.
+August Celine III Really? Because from what i've witnessed Mango almost always has told Armada to win a tournament if Armada eliminates him at a national in loser's bracket. I suppose Mango wants America to win now and doesn't want Armada to potentially surpass his legacy.
+KariKi Cutie In all honesty, Armada and Mango seemingly have the closest relationship amongst the top 6 despite being from different countries. It's just Mango wanting Armada to lose was simply because he is a patriot and Armada was winning every tournament since, which challenges his GOAT status. So yeah, you are probably right.
KariKi Cutie I came to that conclusion solely based on what Mango said in this video. He said that when Hbox won, America didn't win. He also said Armada needed to lose more often, but I agree what they have is more of a friendly rivalry. In comparison what Mango and Hbox have is more of a cancerous rivalry.
Lolm2k
M2k looks bored lol
I mis PPMD
I miss hbox