Us I looked it at saw it seemed like the atago but lost torp range concealment range 2 main guns and a second of reload to go down a tier. This video helped show me upsides to the ship.
@@Millwork1075 Double uptiers are great, more XP and Credits. It's not too bad if you're not in a dreadnought-style BB imo. HE spamming always works great
Surprised there was lots of comparisons to the Atago but none to the Myoko, its tech tree equivalent. There, it shines a little less. Some interesting highlights from that comparison: 1. Its HE alpha is reduced for some reason. 3300 is typical from Furutaka to Ibuki (Zao gets to 3400). Maya has 3000 despite firing the same shell (it looked like) and having the same turret. Sure there is a reason somewhere, but I couldn't spot it. So, 9% less damage. 2. It has only 8 turrets to Myoko's 10. Would love to know more about turret angles on Maya because Myoko's aren't great. So, possibly less relevant that it has once less turret. 3. Range is less than Myoko, which never started out great. 4. Reload is 2.5s more than Myoko. Overall, the max HE DMP is 87k compared to 141k for Myoko. 5. In an interesting quasi-plus, Maya has way better secondaries than Myoko with about double the max DPM. Although it you need it, you're in trouble. 6. While Maya has more torps that do more damage, their reload is terrible by IJN cruiser standards. So, the max DPM of the torps is very similar to Myoko. Although, how many people launch torps every 76s in a Myoko anyways? Torps are obviously still a bonus with better angles and more punch and speed when you need it. 7. As noted, AA is a slight buff compared to Myoko. Still sucks, though, but better than average by IJN standards. 8. Rudder shift time is actually way worse than Myoko at 10.1 vs. 7.1. My Myoko has 5.7s rudder shift with the module applied. So, distinctly less maneouvreable and makes steering gears mod 1 almost essential to play. 9. Base conceal is better on Maya at 12.4km compared to 13.1km, which makes up for the range. And with the torps at 8km instead of 10km, you probably wanted to play 1km or so closer anyways. Also, a note on the torp angles: obviously rare and good, but the same torp angles (or close enough to it) are on the Yoshino and the Atago. But yeah, that's it. Makes it less good (slightly) at kiting, but better and pushing and yoloing. Overall, on paper, the Maya has "better" torps (more torps, more damage, more speed, better angles, less range, worse reload), worse guns (probably at least 10% less damage), reduced turning, better concealment (although reduced effect due to less range), all compared to Myoko. So, roughly equal to Myoko but some things buffed and some things nerfed. But, what it does have that is a major improvement is the heal and the reload booster. Both huge bonuses. Myoko is a little lackluster at its tier compared with the other ships in its line, so this is probably a difference maker for those who were looking for a more useful IJN T7 cruiser. But also looks to be a high risk/high reward kind of ship. So, great for ranked, in principle (and in practice based on the stream). I'm thinking of getting one.
that's because maya plays like atago (which also is on-paper the worst ship in t8 but is couter-intuitively one of the best in the hands of good players) and trades all that stuff relative to myoko for access to the atago hull design. Her casemate has a wormhole in it that well-placed shells get caught in and sent to the bermuda triangle for minimal damage, her citadel roof cannot be overmatched by anything in her tier spread making her immune to plunging fire, and her low freeboard and large superstructure cause the game's auto-aim to deviate shells toward superstructure overpens instead of citadel full pens (and also encourage most shells to strike that roof that can't be penned, which then bounce off it and go into that bermuda triangle wormhole). and then she also inherited all the things that were given to atago over the years to counteract the fact that all the pay-to-win people that don't know what they're doing bought atago and performed terribly in it. maya gets the tier 8 heal, tier 8 hydro, tier 8 fighter plane, and a (honestly kinda useless) reload consumable to make up for the lost gun.
without a 5th upgrade slot she loses the Steering gears mod 2, which takes Atago's greatest strength away from Maya, but Maya is far superior in brawling ranges..
When I got this ship I looked at the stealth and the shorter torp range and thought that I wouldn't be using the torps very often. Five games and four torp kills later I realize how wrong I was.
@@kingofcastlechaos The Lazquer camo is one of the main reasons I bought it. I unfortunately didn't realize you can buy it outside the pack, so I spent way more than I should have. It's beautiful though
Dade if you have the money to spare, go for this one. I'm not typically I cruiser player and I still love her after my purchase last night. I think you wouldn't be disappointed.
@@Voidwalker093 I had a coupon if I bought a ship it would would give me 200% it’s value in Dubloons so I have the gold for it. I got it. Love the geometry of the super structure on this class of ships
If u have atago and u like it then maya is a good ship to get its a bit of a downgrade atago but all in all its a very good and fun ship to play. I have 3 atago and the Maya the maya is good to play on t7 events. U can even make the 76 to 80 knots torps ruclips.net/video/-XRrlbV9toY/видео.html
I have Takao i do like her although her range is quite short but she does quite good job even in higher matches. I did considered buying Atago, since i love the class. Three ships of Takao class in game, now we only need 4th one, Chokai.
I have the Atago but I actually bought Maya but I don't play random's since Suckmarines so Narai, Co-Op and the occasional ranked as you say SL she's ok for that, as for AA cruiser! You know we're not allowed to interfere with Carrier Game Play 😂 8/10 👍
I gave up on random battles (there's SFA incentive there) a long time ago. I have the ships I most want already, so losing money in co-op isn't a problem.
on armor: while the armor layout does have lots of places to get penned, the weird cheek on the front, and the shelf on the back that catches citadel roof bounces (all bad) like atago, maya does also come equipped with the black hole in her casemate where well-placed shots get abducted by aliens or something Also like atago she has a large superstructure and low freeboard, encouraging superstructure overpens instead of casemat full pens or citadel pens.
Good for ranked bronze I think. I think they sell stuff like Maya and FR25 specifically targeting the huge portion of players staying in Bronze league on purpose. A lot of players enjoy staying in T6 and T7 and don't get capped on by the MM. I like it amd I think i has high skill sealing, but Weimar is still the best :)
Didn't know anybody would want to suffer in bronze... I had one of the worst times in wows trying to get out of it... When I reached silver I actually celebrated
@@kr4ftt random sucks due to +2MM and subs, and ranked sucks due to potatoes dbag teammates. It takes effort to be motivated to even play this game at this point.
Randoms sucks for cruises because of subs? You freaking kidding me? How a sub can hit you when you have quite short damage party cooldown and good speed? Am I seeing bottom skill players here complaiming?
well I do like the review lad, but how is it compared to its tech tier equivalent,I know the The Atago is basically a Myoko, But may be more fair to compare it to Myoko, then the Atago.
re: your comment on Maya torp angles - it has the same angles as Atago (and I think Takao), so as expected for a sister ship, I'd say. It's the techline cruisers that have the bad forward angles.
Heh, I was on the enemy team in the game at 17:45. Did very well (top of my team, as I recall), but still lost. Last night was just a string of Ranked losses for me, though. Feels bad.
@@Voidwalker093 still have a hard time in general playing any cruiser. i should really learn to wait for better cruiser or BB go first and get targeted ...
Is this ship staying in the game for sale or is it just here for the golden week? because I’d rather buy it later than right away if I could; but if it’s going away, then I want to get it
Maya is an AA boat, but shes a *japanese* AA boat. Irl she wasnt even good at that since japanese AA was eyeballed, wheras by this point everyone elses large AA guns had radar range finders and proximity fuse shells
15.3km gun range + squishy armor, count me out. As SLM said, you'll be seeing T9's constantly and there's nothing more frustrating than trying to get into gun range against T9's and getting absolutely bitch-slapped for it.
A Japanese WW2 AA cruiser is almost as good as our pre WW2 AA on a pepsi-cola. If you play IJN boats….dd’s and cruisers it is all about landing toros that can do 20K+ damage
Saw one of these, in my Bourgogne,on Sleeping Giant try to run up mid into A. I devstruck him. So I love seeing these get uptiered. So I wouldn't lie to people and say "you'll be alright" if you get uptiered lol
It's a good ship, I built into the 'if you're seen you can shoot better' build, and also sneak torping like a Russian DD. But does anyone besides me want to see an IJN cruiser with the 155mm's? My Mogami still uses the 155's instead of the 203's and builds for fires. All the T7 & 8 ARP ships all have the 203's, I'd just like to see a 155mm ship.
It'd be fictional since the IJN pretty much abandoned light cruisers early on. Mogami only had 6" guns to skirt around the treaty restrictions (though is still broke them). It'd have to be a Mogami sister to not be made up (maybe a preliminary Mogami design survived).
Funny thing is Japan is the only nation in the game that recetntly only got new historical ships! The IJN Ise, Hyuga, Tone and now Maya are all real ships while other tech trees are keep getting fake ships....
Hello all, I got the ship. After playing 3 games well for my part the Fiji Is still light years way better than this one. Spéciale when you are always playing against T9. Fun to have in your port (Sorry for the typos, I’m French Canadian)
After playing both back to back, I found Atago armor to be much better than Maya. Maya doesn't have Atago's 41mm deck armor, heck it doesn't even have Myoko's 32mm deck armor. It's 29mm. Her nose and aft armor are also only 16mm as opposed to 25mm on the Atago which makes a difference at lower tiers, since all BB guns can overmatch. With Atago you can bounce Hyuga and the like. Maya is still fun, but gotta take extra care against BBs. IMO Maya would be a bit more fun if they just changed the main battery reload to 16sec (same as Atago) and give it myoko main battery range (+0.3KM) if not Atago's range. And match Myoko's 32mm deck armor if possible.
If you build Atago for turning instead of concealment, there is something to be said for being able to go unseen, none the less, Atago's base rudder shift is the same as Maya's best
Every word or phrase is a tongue-twister for you, it seems. Anyway, in addition to removing C turret, they removed the aft plane hanger as well for additional AA. Maya after refit had type 93 'long lance' torpedoes in place of the standard type 90 of the Takao class. You also failed to mention that there are TWO Mayas in the game now, the tier 8 ARP Maya as a standard Takao class and this new tier 7. And I guess you have neither Atago or Takao to be surprised by Maya's torpedo angles. I never had Atago but back in the ARP day I had (still do) the ARP Takao and loved the forward torpedo angles. I have since received Atago and Atago B in Christmas containers. Should have kept all the ARP Takao class cruisers when they gifted them all to the participants at the end of the original collaboration.
21:00 graff zeppelin planes are weak well um it has like a 2k diffrence around that from most other CVs but now note graff zeppelin planes go 227kts while other tier 8 CVs steuggle to reach 180kts 160kts LOL so yeah it dosent care cuz ur flak basically dosent exist and its just ur continues AA also graff zeppelin has tier 10 planes with just some HP reduction basically MVR planes also i dont think graff zeppelin is bottom tier anymore i consider it better than lexi, implacable, A parserval, saipan. Its around the same level as shokaku really (im based too) Anyways nice vid
Why did they nerf her HE? Every single Japanese cruiser from the TV Furutaka to the TIX Ibuki deals 3300 damage with their 203mm guns. But Maya only deals 3000. So she has less guns and even less damage per gun with the longest reload out of all of them (except for stock Furutakas guns).
I've always wanted to like stock furutaka guns as it is such a unique layout. Pity they're awful. Wish WG would buff them so that they'd be at least a somewhat viable option.
@@sardaukerlegion I’m sorry hold up- so you’re trying to tell me that Wargaming went back on what they said about superships (T11) only seeing tier 9 and 10
It seems that WG is determined to keep the IJN down. This ship would be exceptional and worth the buy IF, it had a 10K concealment, or 10K torps, or a spotter plane, or a 14 second reload, or if MM was always +/- 1. But as it is, not that great, as said, especially with the MM at T7.
answer to 1:55 didn't even look rest of video for now (going to) but we all know it's going to be shit cause AA is by default useless except vs some german plane
its weird that the Maya and Atago are both sister ships of the lead ship Takao, and yet Maya looks nothing like Atago or Takao... (also im very salty about the fact that maya came out just after i bought an atago) Mountbatten Maya 8.1 sec rudder shift time Laughs in Atago 3.2 sec rudder shift time although i rarely run the Steering Gears Mod 1 & Mod 2 together in practice, i prefer to run Propulsion Mod 1 with Steering Gears Mod 2 since all that Torpedobeat God dodging ability is useless if you cant get your ship moving in a hurry, this loadout has saved me from very sticky situations more times than i care to admit, like the match i just had where i dodged a Maya's torps twice while reversing towards it only for them to eat all 8 of my torps back as they swung around a small island i was using to break line-of-sight. (they ate 1 torp on the initial encounter with me, which convinced them to turn around instead of heading straight for our undetected CV) edit: also i would argue that not all Japanese AA is bad, it may not be meta good (CA/CL's that can yeetus deletus an entire bomber squadron in one pass) but its good enough to hold up against CV's, i can usually delete most of the planes of a single squadron in two passes while i'm equipped with Defensive AA fire, AA flags, and some (not all) of the AA centric commander skills with the Atago. not sure if Maya's any better or worse with AA compared to Atago but i would think it is significantly better at long range AA because while it lost 3 of its single barreled 25mm machineguns and lost all of its twin barreled 25mm machineguns, it did gain 13 25mm triple barreled machineguns versus the atago's 6, which can saturate the sky better than the other variants that were removed; while only being marginally better at continuous AA (medium range flak fire) with only 1 additional twin barreled 12.7cm DP mount per flank.
Saw quite a few of these in Bronze ranked and boy they didn't last long. One time a Maya captain did quite well with the torpedoes, but other than that with that reload and armor layout it was ugly.
It’s kinda funny that we have ARP Maya before actual Maya while ARP Maya config is wrong to Maya. Yet WG not update ARP Maya to look like Maya.. in the Manga itself, ARP Maya is a late war refit. But again, ARP Hiei config is also wrong as Hiei should have superstructure similar to Yamato. So in conclusion, WG is lazy to model stuff.
Even tough subs in most cases were not used for warship hunting i find it interesting that both the Maya and the Atago were sunk by Gato class submarines on the same day. i'm not sure but were the japanese this bad at detecting subs and screening? (multiple carriers were sunk by US subs as well) By the way 155 AA dps with 39 25mm guns is laughable. Wargaming never dissapoints...
I considered buying it but the I saw it’s bad AA and horrific 16 mm front/aft plating that will get you citadelled by everyone. I’ll keep my money, the tech tree Myoko is actually a better ship :/
Thank you for showing the camo section in port. I was hoping I could buy just the lacquer camo from the camo section if I just bought the Maya alone. I did not want to buy those extremely expensive bundles in the armory
You should be able to buy the lacquer camo once you have the Maya in your port. I have the hayate & the lacquer camo is available for purchase in exterior tab then camo. So you can avoid the bundles
Thanks for the review but I have this to say: Yubari, Musashi, Kamikaze, Hyuga, Kaga, Ise, Atago and now this one. Yeah IJN totally doesn't get good premiums... sorry but that statement is just dumb. - RA -
I disagree with you there SLM, I think Maya is a mediocre ship. You are looking at her through the "Atago glasses" which makes her look better than she actually is...
@@sealordmountbatten You're too easy on WG's lazy design/balancing/milking-whales departments. This ship must have taken almost no effort, has nothing outstanding about it and is mediocre in every way. Why promote such garbage?
@@sealordmountbatten 15 fires in a single game…65+ knot and 24 k damage torps at a level where it sees 21knot bbs with an average 55 k health. I don’t care how many weaknesses it’s got that’s a bit too much ship at tier 7.
I feel all T7 cruisers should get 1-2 heals. Facing T9 and overmatch just ruins the game if you take 1 unlucky hit, even with attention to angling.
Us I looked it at saw it seemed like the atago but lost torp range concealment range 2 main guns and a second of reload to go down a tier. This video helped show me upsides to the ship.
I was spoiled by starting with the British cruiser line, so now any line that doesn’t have a heal by T8 chafes really hard
Nah, Weegee just needs to stop with the double uptiers. THAT ruins the game.
@@Millwork1075 Double uptiers are great, more XP and Credits. It's not too bad if you're not in a dreadnought-style BB imo. HE spamming always works great
@@weabootrash5891 CVs and BBs are the worst in a double uptier because they can't do their basic functions. At this point, they play as support ships.
I have the VII MAYA now today in 2024. It is a good ship only a weak armor! I gif it a 8/10 to!
Surprised there was lots of comparisons to the Atago but none to the Myoko, its tech tree equivalent. There, it shines a little less. Some interesting highlights from that comparison:
1. Its HE alpha is reduced for some reason. 3300 is typical from Furutaka to Ibuki (Zao gets to 3400). Maya has 3000 despite firing the same shell (it looked like) and having the same turret. Sure there is a reason somewhere, but I couldn't spot it. So, 9% less damage.
2. It has only 8 turrets to Myoko's 10. Would love to know more about turret angles on Maya because Myoko's aren't great. So, possibly less relevant that it has once less turret.
3. Range is less than Myoko, which never started out great.
4. Reload is 2.5s more than Myoko. Overall, the max HE DMP is 87k compared to 141k for Myoko.
5. In an interesting quasi-plus, Maya has way better secondaries than Myoko with about double the max DPM. Although it you need it, you're in trouble.
6. While Maya has more torps that do more damage, their reload is terrible by IJN cruiser standards. So, the max DPM of the torps is very similar to Myoko. Although, how many people launch torps every 76s in a Myoko anyways? Torps are obviously still a bonus with better angles and more punch and speed when you need it.
7. As noted, AA is a slight buff compared to Myoko. Still sucks, though, but better than average by IJN standards.
8. Rudder shift time is actually way worse than Myoko at 10.1 vs. 7.1. My Myoko has 5.7s rudder shift with the module applied. So, distinctly less maneouvreable and makes steering gears mod 1 almost essential to play.
9. Base conceal is better on Maya at 12.4km compared to 13.1km, which makes up for the range. And with the torps at 8km instead of 10km, you probably wanted to play 1km or so closer anyways.
Also, a note on the torp angles: obviously rare and good, but the same torp angles (or close enough to it) are on the Yoshino and the Atago. But yeah, that's it. Makes it less good (slightly) at kiting, but better and pushing and yoloing.
Overall, on paper, the Maya has "better" torps (more torps, more damage, more speed, better angles, less range, worse reload), worse guns (probably at least 10% less damage), reduced turning, better concealment (although reduced effect due to less range), all compared to Myoko. So, roughly equal to Myoko but some things buffed and some things nerfed. But, what it does have that is a major improvement is the heal and the reload booster. Both huge bonuses. Myoko is a little lackluster at its tier compared with the other ships in its line, so this is probably a difference maker for those who were looking for a more useful IJN T7 cruiser. But also looks to be a high risk/high reward kind of ship. So, great for ranked, in principle (and in practice based on the stream).
I'm thinking of getting one.
that's because maya plays like atago (which also is on-paper the worst ship in t8 but is couter-intuitively one of the best in the hands of good players) and trades all that stuff relative to myoko for access to the atago hull design.
Her casemate has a wormhole in it that well-placed shells get caught in and sent to the bermuda triangle for minimal damage, her citadel roof cannot be overmatched by anything in her tier spread making her immune to plunging fire, and her low freeboard and large superstructure cause the game's auto-aim to deviate shells toward superstructure overpens instead of citadel full pens (and also encourage most shells to strike that roof that can't be penned, which then bounce off it and go into that bermuda triangle wormhole).
and then she also inherited all the things that were given to atago over the years to counteract the fact that all the pay-to-win people that don't know what they're doing bought atago and performed terribly in it.
maya gets the tier 8 heal, tier 8 hydro, tier 8 fighter plane, and a (honestly kinda useless) reload consumable to make up for the lost gun.
Maya: She's just like Takao, only different!
I'm actually excited for her though.
without a 5th upgrade slot she loses the Steering gears mod 2, which takes Atago's greatest strength away from Maya, but Maya is far superior in brawling ranges..
you can get her right now
you could probably launch torps at 9 km if they are chasing you or coming towards you. something people don't always think of.
Considering the 16 mil bow, yeah kiting out while slinging high speed tops is nice when chased for sure!
When I got this ship I looked at the stealth and the shorter torp range and thought that I wouldn't be using the torps very often. Five games and four torp kills later I realize how wrong I was.
Did you get it with the Japanese Lacquer perma camo or not? If not, how much is the perma camo to buy later? Thanks
@@kingofcastlechaos The Lazquer camo is one of the main reasons I bought it. I unfortunately didn't realize you can buy it outside the pack, so I spent way more than I should have. It's beautiful though
Atago might be my favorite ship in my port. I’m debating getting Maya cause they’re the same class but they look different enough that I’ll consider.
Dade if you have the money to spare, go for this one. I'm not typically I cruiser player and I still love her after my purchase last night. I think you wouldn't be disappointed.
@@Voidwalker093 I had a coupon if I bought a ship it would would give me 200% it’s value in Dubloons so I have the gold for it. I got it. Love the geometry of the super structure on this class of ships
If u have atago and u like it then maya is a good ship to get its a bit of a downgrade atago but all in all its a very good and fun ship to play. I have 3 atago and the Maya the maya is good to play on t7 events. U can even make the 76 to 80 knots torps
ruclips.net/video/-XRrlbV9toY/видео.html
@9:05 - "Alright that's the Hyuga's characteristics" hehe, someone needs more coffee!
Her firing angles are far superior to Myoko. One of the best feature
I have Takao i do like her although her range is quite short but she does quite good job even in higher matches. I did considered buying Atago, since i love the class. Three ships of Takao class in game, now we only need 4th one, Chokai.
I have the Atago but I actually bought Maya but I don't play random's since Suckmarines so Narai, Co-Op and the occasional ranked as you say SL she's ok for that, as for AA cruiser! You know we're not allowed to interfere with Carrier Game Play 😂 8/10 👍
I gave up on random battles (there's SFA incentive there) a long time ago. I have the ships I most want already, so losing money in co-op isn't a problem.
@@dylanwight5764 how can people enjoy coop? The ai is so bad it's just way too easy and monotonous.
@@Joshua-fi4ji You dont fight against the bots, you try to outdo your teammates :) Thats the challenge there.
@@Joshua-fi4ji operations is hella fun and hard if your teammates are jackasses
How does one play narai on off weeks?
Thanks for this, I have been contemplating picking this one up
I LOVE those torpedo angles. Only Furutaka, Atago and Yoshino come close.
It’s the same angles as atago because it’s the same Takao class
on armor:
while the armor layout does have lots of places to get penned, the weird cheek on the front, and the shelf on the back that catches citadel roof bounces (all bad)
like atago, maya does also come equipped with the black hole in her casemate where well-placed shots get abducted by aliens or something
Also like atago she has a large superstructure and low freeboard, encouraging superstructure overpens instead of casemat full pens or citadel pens.
Feel like this ship is nicely balanced, downsides and upsides.
Shouldn´t this be compared to the Myoko instead of the Atago though?
Good for ranked bronze I think. I think they sell stuff like Maya and FR25 specifically targeting the huge portion of players staying in Bronze league on purpose. A lot of players enjoy staying in T6 and T7 and don't get capped on by the MM. I like it amd I think i has high skill sealing, but Weimar is still the best :)
Didn't know anybody would want to suffer in bronze... I had one of the worst times in wows trying to get out of it... When I reached silver I actually celebrated
@@kr4ftt No real difference, honestly.
@@EvoraGT430 indeed... But at least it's not people that only played 10 matches, got the warspite and went to ranked... That's at least something
@@kr4ftt random sucks due to +2MM and subs, and ranked sucks due to potatoes dbag teammates. It takes effort to be motivated to even play this game at this point.
Randoms sucks for cruises because of subs? You freaking kidding me? How a sub can hit you when you have quite short damage party cooldown and good speed? Am I seeing bottom skill players here complaiming?
Question. Does an Atago build capt work on Maya?
I'd say it does, at least I'm using the same commander for both
@@rovelfox7832 good I need another cruiser trainer. Loosevto much in resources reworking down lines
Atago is no longer available. I wonder if it will come back any time soon?
What about the tier 8 maya?
Thought that Maya already existed with the Arpeggio of Blue Steel colab?
I’m genuinely surprised this is a ship that blitz got before PC this ship has been in blitz for years now and you guys just got it.
why did the REPULSE stop firing at you
Maya looks pretty good. Thanks for reviewing her.
Wonder if they will release that camo separately later…..
I have her in port, the camo is showing up beside the standard premium camo but I'm not sure if it will be there after the events over. It's possible.
Let's be real here, when we see TSIOF we read it the way the commander says it XD
at the end of the ship stats and characteristics section, you called it the hyuga
also, look in the chat at 13:12
lol
well I do like the review lad, but how is it compared to its tech tier equivalent,I know the The Atago is basically a Myoko, But may be more fair to compare it to Myoko, then the Atago.
re: your comment on Maya torp angles - it has the same angles as Atago (and I think Takao), so as expected for a sister ship, I'd say. It's the techline cruisers that have the bad forward angles.
Heh, I was on the enemy team in the game at 17:45. Did very well (top of my team, as I recall), but still lost. Last night was just a string of Ranked losses for me, though. Feels bad.
She is a tier 8 cruisers in wows blitz we also have takao as the tech tree tier 8
so it is worth to get it if you already have atago? ( i confes that special camo look pretty)
From what I've seen, yes others still think it's worth it. I got Maya and very much enjoy it (when not completely uptiered)
@@Voidwalker093 still have a hard time in general playing any cruiser. i should really learn to wait for better cruiser or BB go first and get targeted ...
Is this ship staying in the game for sale or is it just here for the golden week? because I’d rather buy it later than right away if I could; but if it’s going away, then I want to get it
IJN Takao class are my favorite ships!
Maya is an AA boat, but shes a *japanese* AA boat. Irl she wasnt even good at that since japanese AA was eyeballed, wheras by this point everyone elses large AA guns had radar range finders and proximity fuse shells
15.3km gun range + squishy armor, count me out. As SLM said, you'll be seeing T9's constantly and there's nothing more frustrating than trying to get into gun range against T9's and getting absolutely bitch-slapped for it.
"You aren't going to be getting secondary kills with her." The first kill I ever got in Maya was a secondary kill. Don't lie to me Mr. Mount.
A Japanese WW2 AA cruiser is almost as good as our pre WW2 AA on a pepsi-cola. If you play IJN boats….dd’s and cruisers it is all about landing toros that can do 20K+ damage
Love the uss Wisconsin hat! I wear a uss Alabama hat just like that whenever I play wows
Just wondering why they keep making any premium ships in tier 7 at all with matchmaking you get. Seems counterproductive
Thought the Maya was already released?
An ARP ship?
That was the ARP Takao
@@regi8146 techically both. theres ARP maya wich is just a atago clone. Maya in arpeggio being the post retrofit version as well
Saw one of these, in my Bourgogne,on Sleeping Giant try to run up mid into A. I devstruck him. So I love seeing these get uptiered. So I wouldn't lie to people and say "you'll be alright" if you get uptiered lol
Well you’ll be alright in TIX games, if the dude was in TX yeaaaaahhhh, no
Maya in a failed division
It's a good ship, I built into the 'if you're seen you can shoot better' build, and also sneak torping like a Russian DD. But does anyone besides me want to see an IJN cruiser with the 155mm's? My Mogami still uses the 155's instead of the 203's and builds for fires. All the T7 & 8 ARP ships all have the 203's, I'd just like to see a 155mm ship.
It'd be fictional since the IJN pretty much abandoned light cruisers early on. Mogami only had 6" guns to skirt around the treaty restrictions (though is still broke them).
It'd have to be a Mogami sister to not be made up (maybe a preliminary Mogami design survived).
@@Joshua-fi4ji Mogami or Kumano would be a good version, and as they had 'inferior' guns they could be Tier 7.
Funny thing is Japan is the only nation in the game that recetntly only got new historical ships! The IJN Ise, Hyuga, Tone and now Maya are all real ships while other tech trees are keep getting fake ships....
Nahh, alot of Ita DD's was real, and we get the British Battlecruisers soon too. Repulse, Béarn, Forrest Sherman, Eagle were also real ships.
@@kovacsj7823 too bad past tier 6 the British BCs are paper or fiction
No one is talking about the in game chat lol. That was riveting.
long story short. a Japanese Yorck
Hello all, I got the ship. After playing 3 games well for my part the Fiji Is still light years way better than this one. Spéciale when you are always playing against T9. Fun to have in your port (Sorry for the typos, I’m French Canadian)
After playing both back to back, I found Atago armor to be much better than Maya. Maya doesn't have Atago's 41mm deck armor, heck it doesn't even have Myoko's 32mm deck armor. It's 29mm. Her nose and aft armor are also only 16mm as opposed to 25mm on the Atago which makes a difference at lower tiers, since all BB guns can overmatch. With Atago you can bounce Hyuga and the like. Maya is still fun, but gotta take extra care against BBs.
IMO Maya would be a bit more fun if they just changed the main battery reload to 16sec (same as Atago) and give it myoko main battery range (+0.3KM) if not Atago's range. And match Myoko's 32mm deck armor if possible.
But this ship looks much stronger than the IJN Tone which is in tier 8 for some reason.
One thing, Atago has a 3.6 rudder shift time…
If you build Atago for turning instead of concealment, there is something to be said for being able to go unseen, none the less, Atago's base rudder shift is the same as Maya's best
There are a couple of Tech tree T7 cruisers that are at least as good: Fiji, Algerie, Yorck, Surrey. I wouldn't buy the Maya, for what purpose?
Yo thanks for the watch!
Every word or phrase is a tongue-twister for you, it seems. Anyway, in addition to removing C turret, they removed the aft plane hanger as well for additional AA. Maya after refit had type 93 'long lance' torpedoes in place of the standard type 90 of the Takao class. You also failed to mention that there are TWO Mayas in the game now, the tier 8 ARP Maya as a standard Takao class and this new tier 7. And I guess you have neither Atago or Takao to be surprised by Maya's torpedo angles. I never had Atago but back in the ARP day I had (still do) the ARP Takao and loved the forward torpedo angles. I have since received Atago and Atago B in Christmas containers. Should have kept all the ARP Takao class cruisers when they gifted them all to the participants at the end of the original collaboration.
The biggest negative for me about the Maya is the shorter range torps.
Maya is very comfortable to use I love it
beautiful model!
If I would buy a tier 7 ship today, it will be Hyuga or Florida (I have already Scharnhorst).
She can crush in Ranked! btw...
21:00 graff zeppelin planes are weak well um it has like a 2k diffrence around that from most other CVs but now note graff zeppelin planes go 227kts while other tier 8 CVs steuggle to reach 180kts 160kts LOL so yeah it dosent care cuz ur flak basically dosent exist and its just ur continues AA also graff zeppelin has tier 10 planes with just some HP reduction basically MVR planes also i dont think graff zeppelin is bottom tier anymore i consider it better than lexi, implacable, A parserval, saipan. Its around the same level as shokaku really (im based too)
Anyways nice vid
2 Mayas in WoWs now
ARP Maya : pre AA mod with 5 turrets but Atago reskin
IJN Maya : AA Mod and unique but 1 tier lower
Looking for wg to update the arp model to actually be the maya
Why did they nerf her HE?
Every single Japanese cruiser from the TV Furutaka to the TIX Ibuki deals 3300 damage with their 203mm guns. But Maya only deals 3000.
So she has less guns and even less damage per gun with the longest reload out of all of them (except for stock Furutakas guns).
I've always wanted to like stock furutaka guns as it is such a unique layout. Pity they're awful.
Wish WG would buff them so that they'd be at least a somewhat viable option.
I suspect it was due to the MBRB, the HE is still good tho
I already own Atago, and this one does nothing better. Why not an T9 upgrade, instead of a t7 downgrade?
Atago that can see tier 11? Personally I’d not be buying but hey, I’m a battleship main not a cruiser main, what do I know? 🤣
@@arch_2076 Atago already faces tier 11. An upgrade with more range, faster reload and better armor is needed for that.
@@sardaukerlegion when did Atago become a tier 9?
Thought it was only +/- 2 with the MM not +/- 3
@@arch_2076 "Superships" are not OFFICIALLY T11, MM counts them as TX.
@@sardaukerlegion I’m sorry hold up- so you’re trying to tell me that Wargaming went back on what they said about superships (T11) only seeing tier 9 and 10
So they finally made a T7 designed for the uptiered gameplay
imagina you can swap reload booster with torp reload booster
It seems that WG is determined to keep the IJN down. This ship would be exceptional and worth the buy IF, it had a 10K concealment, or 10K torps, or a spotter plane, or a 14 second reload, or if MM was always +/- 1. But as it is, not that great, as said, especially with the MM at T7.
then this could be just a better atago at t7 though.
Rudder shift is painful 8s, AA is reasonably good against T6 (just shot down 25 planes). Not a chance in T9 match.
Well it's a tier 7 cruiser, of course in the tier 9 10 meta it's daunting for any.
answer to 1:55 didn't even look rest of video for now (going to) but we all know it's going to be shit cause AA is by default useless except vs some german plane
its weird that the Maya and Atago are both sister ships of the lead ship Takao, and yet Maya looks nothing like Atago or Takao...
(also im very salty about the fact that maya came out just after i bought an atago)
Mountbatten Maya 8.1 sec rudder shift time
Laughs in Atago 3.2 sec rudder shift time
although i rarely run the Steering Gears Mod 1 & Mod 2 together in practice, i prefer to run Propulsion Mod 1 with Steering Gears Mod 2 since all that Torpedobeat God dodging ability is useless if you cant get your ship moving in a hurry, this loadout has saved me from very sticky situations more times than i care to admit, like the match i just had where i dodged a Maya's torps twice while reversing towards it only for them to eat all 8 of my torps back as they swung around a small island i was using to break line-of-sight. (they ate 1 torp on the initial encounter with me, which convinced them to turn around instead of heading straight for our undetected CV)
edit: also i would argue that not all Japanese AA is bad, it may not be meta good (CA/CL's that can yeetus deletus an entire bomber squadron in one pass) but its good enough to hold up against CV's, i can usually delete most of the planes of a single squadron in two passes while i'm equipped with Defensive AA fire, AA flags, and some (not all) of the AA centric commander skills with the Atago.
not sure if Maya's any better or worse with AA compared to Atago but i would think it is significantly better at long range AA because while it lost 3 of its single barreled 25mm machineguns and lost all of its twin barreled 25mm machineguns, it did gain 13 25mm triple barreled machineguns versus the atago's 6, which can saturate the sky better than the other variants that were removed; while only being marginally better at continuous AA (medium range flak fire) with only 1 additional twin barreled 12.7cm DP mount per flank.
Atago doesn't get a choice of spotter or fighter neither... at least my arp takao doesn't, which is same ship as far as I know
Maya is to Atago as Weimar is the Mainz.
Have 3 atago and the maya all in all I like them. I'll take the maya over the myoko
I like to see more refitted ships. Unlike those arp reskin ships.
NOOO MOUNTBATTEN! You posted me in a sub on RUclips WHYYYY lmao
Lmao, shame on you
I was sub hunting! LoL
you got subbed
Forever known as a submarine good sir
Isnt that op?
I'm bored with that algorithm pushing me against 1-2 higher tier than my ship almost 80% of times, weird times i take any ship T7-8 in random battle
Saw quite a few of these in Bronze ranked and boy they didn't last long. One time a Maya captain did quite well with the torpedoes, but other than that with that reload and armor layout it was ugly.
I really want that cruiserm sucks it's just for douuubloooons.
It’s kinda funny that we have ARP Maya before actual Maya while ARP Maya config is wrong to Maya. Yet WG not update ARP Maya to look like Maya.. in the Manga itself, ARP Maya is a late war refit. But again, ARP Hiei config is also wrong as Hiei should have superstructure similar to Yamato. So in conclusion, WG is lazy to model stuff.
10% faster torps is worth it on this ship..
Even tough subs in most cases were not used for warship hunting i find it interesting that both the Maya and the Atago were sunk by Gato class submarines on the same day. i'm not sure but were the japanese this bad at detecting subs and screening? (multiple carriers were sunk by US subs as well)
By the way 155 AA dps with 39 25mm guns is laughable. Wargaming never dissapoints...
Pretty sure Japanese cruisers didn’t have radar or hydrophone
Yes they really were very bad at sub-hunting.
And then I'll give it a Doug score 2:08
🤣 @13:05 min in the chat in game 🤣
you forget you re torpedoes absolutely
I considered buying it but the I saw it’s bad AA and horrific 16 mm front/aft plating that will get you citadelled by everyone. I’ll keep my money, the tech tree Myoko is actually a better ship :/
Thank you for showing the camo section in port. I was hoping I could buy just the lacquer camo from the camo section if I just bought the Maya alone. I did not want to buy those extremely expensive bundles in the armory
You should be able to buy the lacquer camo once you have the Maya in your port. I have the hayate & the lacquer camo is available for purchase in exterior tab then camo. So you can avoid the bundles
Maya get release
Sad Myoko/Nachi/Haguro/Ashigara noise
Thanks for the review but I have this to say:
Yubari, Musashi, Kamikaze, Hyuga, Kaga, Ise, Atago and now this one. Yeah IJN totally doesn't get good premiums... sorry but that statement is just dumb. - RA -
Guess I’m still stuck in that 2018 mind set when the IJN just kept getting meh premiums
I disagree with you there SLM, I think Maya is a mediocre ship. You are looking at her through the "Atago glasses" which makes her look better than she actually is...
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@@nguyenanh6943 counter ratio
Maya has better AA in azur lane xd
Dude you been talking up a lot of low effort ships lately, shocking to be honest
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@@sealordmountbatten You're too easy on WG's lazy design/balancing/milking-whales departments. This ship must have taken almost no effort, has nothing outstanding about it and is mediocre in every way. Why promote such garbage?
Salt detected! It's a nice ship in its own right. If someone likes it, they like it. You do you boo boo!
@@sealordmountbatten 15 fires in a single game…65+ knot and 24 k damage torps at a level where it sees 21knot bbs with an average 55 k health.
I don’t care how many weaknesses it’s got that’s a bit too much ship at tier 7.
8km torps are useless
Cap
never buying another ship from WG....f them
Secondary benefit of watching this video, WG code in chat SATURDAYSR4BOISE thanks!