ONLY problem I have on FF 13 was if your Main character dies, you cant switch to your other party members and you just get a game over. 13-2 fixed that.
@@MinusInfernoGamingi played it back when i was like 15 or 17 idk and fall asleep like a couple hours in because the combat felt extremely automatic and boring idk
No squall was literally a lone wolf who always kept his thoughts to himself and never liked interacting much or have any sense of humour Lighting was similar to Cloud in her attitude
Finished it today. The best looking FF I have played so far. Maybe tied with 15 just a different art style. I love how high fantasy/sci fi it was. Totally original story and lore. Last couple chapters really got tough and was all about the battles was kinda a slog. Other than that though, I really enjoyed it. I got 10 and 12 left to get through. I played 10 and 12 part way but back then I wanted the complete package, and I was not into the linearity of 10 or the story of 12 so I dropped it. The reason I never got started on FF 13 until now. Same thing though, wanna go back to 10 and 12 and like them for their merits and not have hangups.
You try being a 14 year old innocent kid who was vacationing at the wrong place and time, getting thrown into a mass genocide then losing your mom, then being turned into what everyone fears and is now out to get you. Ontop of you now needing to accomplish something or you get turned into a hell demon basically. If you really stop to think about Hope’s situation he gets thrown into a traumatic rollercoaster that only gets worse and worse for the beginning hours of the game. I could see people’s point more if he was never called out for his misplaced anger or if the game paints him as in the right, but the game makes it clear he’s in the wrong and even Lightning sticks up for Snow once he hears about the whole situation.
@@skycloud4802 the acting is better. But I personally don’t find the characters very likeable. Like I fully anticipate characters to have flaws but in general I didn’t like the characters of X at all… but the XIII characters are probably worse even though they are portrayed and acted better.
It sure took quite some time for me to actually LEARN how to fight in the game properly. but these days it's pretty much the ONLY Final fantasy title I still play. I love the story that is being told and I LOVE each individual character developments. quite a shame that modern final fantasy titles DON'T do this anymore. not to the same extent at least.
As someone who played 15, bruh what are you talking about, the character development there is top notch. Final Fantasy 13 doesn’t have Ignis in it, which makes it the worse game by default
I am genuinely confused how people say the story is confusing? I had no problems understanding the story when I played this game when I was a kid. I hear the story was one of the main reasons people couldn’t get into it
Final Fantasy 13 is a really good game. It was the first rpg that made me learn the battle system inside and out. I would usualy just mash my way through and enjoy the story. But i love the paradigm mechanics . and the characters are really cool. I love Lightning. And Blinded By Light is one if the best sound tracks ever made. The world is beautiful. Sure its not like other Final Fantasys and that is fine.
People claim this game is just a hallway simulator. But that's just so dishonest. There's like 3 areas that are hallways. There's more branching paths in 13 than there were in 10! Also replaying right now, and there's also a surprising number of areas which are open and with something you need to do to progress. I think FF13 would've been more beloved if they had us the players walk to all the new areas. See, where FFX's cutscenes happen within the areas you're in, then after that you have to move yourself to the next area, FF13's cutscenes always lead to an entirely new area, and you the player never had to walk there, you always just spawn in after a new cutscene. Which is just so jarring.
FFXIII was the very first FF I played but I didn't finish it 😅 Just like the video mentioned, I was put off by the linearity. And the battle system didn't click to me as well. I think I also had the hard time to understand the story which is a big thing for me to continue playing games. I remember some hard to read words and terms 😆 I actually rarely stop playing games without finishing, same with TV shows. I guess those things were too much to get over 😅 I did finish FFX though. During my childhood, I watched my older brother play FFVII which he never finished LOL
I really liked FF 13 Hallway. LOL no seriously for me it was a great game loved the combat so different from others like 12 did with gambits oh loved 12...And now 16, FF keeps evolving for the better and ofc pissing many fans off. Great take on game nice vid. Exactly 10 is a huge Hallway but i guess its the story that makes so many overlook that.
Lol I didn't mind the pseudo- permadeath. Really raised the stakes in every fight. I hated the linearity argument so much because 10 was linear. Also, in general there is nothing absolutely wrong with linear story games. Games aren't bad because they're opened world or linear. The answer is way more nuanced and complex than that. I mean look at the garbage churned out nowadays lol
I'm only here to see how many times the word "Hallway" appears in the comments. Because people are so incapable of forming their own thoughts and opinions that they have to repeat the same talking point, and in this case a single word, they saw on twitter for forever
I loved xiii when it came out and have played through it many times. I loved the battle system and the endgame content too. FFXI will always be my face but 10 and 13 are my fave single player. I need to go back and check out 15 again as I gave up as I much more prefer a turn based system. Currently replaying them myself atm too, I have just hit disk 2 on 9. FF7 was also my fist intro to the series too although I prefer 8 of the psone FF's.
I find this game to be awful. I hated the combat, I didn’t like a single character, and consider the story to be an uninteresting mess told very poorly.
Aren't final fantasy games linear? Its not that bad. Games now a days are open world but you can't do a lot with them. World is open, no interactions. Just repetitive gameplay
Yes and no. What usually happened was Final Fantasys would bounce between linear parts, then give the player freedom to return to villages and towns or like in 7, Different areas of Midgar. Where as 13 is completely linear for about 10-15 hours, then it opens. I think that's where the problem lies. But I like the game, so it doesn't bother me lol 🤗
@@MinusInfernoGaming thats true. Thats what i always noticed with ff games. But i enjoy them a lot. I love the story telling and the gameplay. Thats what matters.
Final Fantasy was linear but if you play their predecessor,you would not noticed it was linear game because at the some point you would realized the map was bigger and almost be like a open world when you unlocked the ship/airship.Please try to do a free roaming in those games and you would know what I meant. But entering the PS3 era and onwards you would find the maps became smaller and less in number except for online titles and FF15(open world).I was personally disappointed with FF7 remake and FF16 with their linear gameplay while FF15 gave more satisfaction than I expected.
FF16 is very good. One of the best FFs, in my opinion. The characters, story and gameplay are great. Now I do really like 13, but it doesn't crack the top 10 FFs for me. But if you have a PS5, or are waiting for it to come to PC and Xbox, it's definitely worth picking up 🤗
@@MinusInfernoGamingok that is good to hear. I've just started FF16 myself but so far I haven't been drawn into the world like I was with FF13. I'll keep going though since a lot of people are saying it's good
@mac1bc Yea I felt the same at the start of FF16. But it does get much better and the game opens up alot with Monster hunts and side quests too. Some side quests unlock things too, so they're worth doing
For me 16 blows 13 away. All around more enjoyable, but 13 had normal party members atleast like the old final fantasys.’ Only good thing about it compared to 16. 13 was barely average at best
Just played it before playing ff16 I have to say the game is as good as I remember it 13 years ago as a fact I like the gameplay more than any other ff gameplay
@@mohammedallha61 it is was a cheap GoT rip-off Even the seven houses, direwolves, old gods were straight up plucked from it but I don’t hate it I’m like 60% done with the game rn
Very underrated game. Paradigm battle system is a lot of fun. Much better than FF15 and FF16's messy combat. The characters other than Hope and Vanille are great. 8/10
Love this game. Never got to play it back in the day as a PS3 player but I bought it for PC last year and really enjoyed it. Just need to go back and finish it cause I got sidetracked by a huge backlog of games and life in general. Combat system is one of the best in the series and I love the Paradigm Shift mechanic. I even like the linearity. I don't need to waste my hours on open world busy work. The industry has been flooded with that type of stuff over the years. Maybe I'm a FF heathen but I like a lot of the titles that a lot of the fanbase dislikes and parrots negatively about. FF12, 13, 15 and most recently 16. Been a franchise vet for 20 years myself but I got into the series with FFTA and my first mainline was 12. Which is maybe why I'm more open minded about the different directions the franchise can take. Also, this has the second best OST in the series after FFX.
For a 13? 14? year old game, this still looks stunning, honestly one of my favourites visually from the series. (tldr: I liked FF13 and I hated it sequels) The characters are fine, a little one noted but they fill the roles they are meant to. Nothing great but nothing bad either... I mean other than Hope... kid whined a bit too much. And I also disagree that Lightning is just female Cloud. Story and lore is great! It's a shame most of it is just locked behind reading in a database that really kills the momentum and immersion. Really could've done more to explain things more naturally to the player other than "HEY SPEND HOURS READING!" Gameplay isn't the best in the franchise by a long shot but it gets the job done and personally i didn't mind the linearity of it and I like the paradigm shift mechanic. I didn't like Auto-battle, but hey, I just didn't use it. Honestly i can say i really enjoyed FF13, Loved it even, but maaaan I hate the FF13 trilogy, FF13-2 and Lightning Returns killed whatever it had going. FF13 ended nicely and wrapped up most things. Then they just had to put unnecessary sequels... Even if FF13-2 fixed quite a few things for the battle system from the first game, it made me mad just playing it. And Lightning Returns was just a dumpster fire of a mess all around. really could've just left FF13 as a stand alone and I would've been happy.
People werent vibing with the battle system initially with the stagger mechanic and the “auto battle” command; along with doing away from traditional FF aspects for a more linear focused story; but ive see some people cape for it and people coming back around and finding more enjoyment
I like all three FF XII games. I can't see anything really wrong with them. They are great fun games with alot of story and alot of things to do in them. And I really like Lightning. She's a bit dark and morose (like Squall in FFVIII) unlike many FF protagonists who are whimsical and kind of brain dead boys.
Yes, FF X was linear, but you could at least go back to earlier stages to grind for specific components. FF XIII only allowed grinding within the current stage which limited the range of collectable components. On many occasions moving (forward) to the next stage would open up new branches of the skill tree only to place you in an area where the necessary components were rare. The artwork was also a factor - FF X's corridors were largely enforced by terrain or showed a clear preferred road/path whereas FF XIII's looked wider than they were and featured invisible boundaries. The burning bridges storyline of XIII doubtless led to the decision to enforce a forwards only game mechanic, but to players used to the grinding opportunities of other Final Fantasy games this only served to heighten the feeling of moving on rails. That said I would still love to get a Nintendo Switch version to play on the go - having decided that the PS4 was a console too far this is the last mainstream FF game still stuck on my (dust collecting) Playstation 3.
I figure most of the comments in here are going to be pro 13 but I am not one of them. I should start by saying that I have platinumed this and the other two games that are related to it meaning that I have played a significant amount of time with this game and do not complain without reason. Just google DavAnJac and my PSN should come up. I am of the opinion that it is the worst of the numbered series up to its own release. To be fair, the graphics are amazing even by today's standards and the music is glorious for sure. I would even say that many of the creature designs are some of the best in the FF games. But unlike you I found all of these characters insufferable. Whereas Lightning (stupid name) is a world's most violent block of wood and Hope is woeful as a character I absolutely despised Vanille more than Tidus's laugh. Each character portrays one solitary emotion and amps it up to 11 with virtually no character arch unlike that of Squall to whom you compare her. This game would be salvageable were it not for the characters whom you have to play. No, the least time you spend with these characters the better. In fact, I would say that 13-2 has a more likeable cast both in hero and villain. Even Lightning returns has fantastic villain. You made the comparison with X also being a hallway game but I would argue that it was a hallway done right. 13's hallways existed only to be mired through where as there were more things to do in X and if you missed them you could, in most cases, return unlike many of those in 13. I am also of the opinion that it this is the very worst battle system. I do not agree with the stagger combat, I find it to be wildly uncreative and a step in the wrong direction and I don't miss it thusly. I noticed that you didn't mention that if Lightning dies then it is game over regardless of any means of resurrection that you may have in your arsenal. The platinum trophy in this is an utter slog to complete due to having to have acquired all items in the game which is important because of the areas to which you cannot return, the lack of new game+, hours upon hours of unimaginative and dull farming, and also your weapon's max form bears the same name and resemblance regardless of the weapon from which it evolved so you may not even have ever obtained the weapon needed in the first place thereby negating any unfortunate amount of farming that you may have put into it. And when you don't enjoy the game the path to platinum is no longer a fun adventure and challenge but a chore. There are a plethora of criticisms that I could hurl at this game but I will hold onto that ammo. When all is said and done that is just my opinion. If you loved it, that's fine. I know that I like a few games that are outliers unto all but myself. But you asked for my comment and I am giving it.
I disagree, you said "each character portrays one solitary emotion and amps it up to 11" i would say, each character portrays one solitary annoying emotion and ramps it up to 11.
I also got platinum on this game back when it came out on ps3, it was my only game at the time so its what i had to play… it SUCKED so bad god i agree with you.
I've owned this game since it released, and try to play it every couple of years. I've never made it past the mech fight on the frozen lake. I absolutely hate the paradigm system, it just never clicked with me. I always hear people saying the paradigm system was the best thing about the game, but it's what ends up driving me away every time.
It's a bit reductionist to say that FFX and FFXIII's linearity are the same. In FFX, the game did a good job of breaking up the combat with other tasks. There were definitely more towns and locations where you could interact with people compared to FFXIII. On top of this, there were the puzzle sequences in the Cloister of the Trials that separated the combat quite a bit in the game, not to mention the blitzball sequence and some others. FFXIII didn't have any of that, and that can definitely make the game feel very samey. It's not really apples to apples. I think another reason FFX is considered better is frankly the characters are more well-written and less annoying. The story and lore is also a lot more compelling for most people. The turn-based combat system with move orders as well as the differences between character's pros and cons makes the combat a lot more interesting early on - it takes way too long for FFXIII's combat system to open up. Also, the sphere grid is strictly better because it's deeper and requires more choices from the player, and I don't think that's very subjective. FFXIII is simply holding a button and filling in all the nodes - it's about as linear and brainless as most of the game itself.
People that say "if you hate 13 then why do you love 10" are also misunderstanding why 10 is the better game, almost like they never played 10. The reason why 10 is the better game is simply because there is a lot more variety in its gameplay. It's not just walk forward + combat. It's got minigames, side quests, secrets, collectibles, puzzles, it's got hubs where you actually interact with NPC's. And it's also not linear forever, once you get the airship you can go back to any area in the game.
I skipped this game after its release and the bad criticism it received, I continued with my life and forgot about this game entirely. It is now 2024 (there was a sale on almost all FF games recently) when I decided to give it a try and I genuinely loved it, from start to finish, even its linearity, already got all achievements on FF13 and I am now trying to get them all on FF13-2 as well, I have finished the story and I am doing the post game content. Once done I'm probably jumping on FF13 Lightning Returns before FF7 Rebirth drops.
I had ok time with 13. But severely lacking in having a good rpg mechanics and gameplay, just look at star ocean last hope that came out around similar times now that was a real jrpg even tho that wasn’t all that great but it had plenty of big environments to explore and towns: ff13 was just a average at best game: part 2 was enjoyable kinda, average, and part 3 was awful.
Nothing is wrong with 13, its just a regular FF game. The real issue is the time of its release, 2009-2010 the internet went from being optional to being you need the internet for everything. During this time forum sites were swamped by people just hating literally everything for no real reason. It has progressed to this very day, you can't enjoy a game, movie, TV series, musician without being crucified. Now as we speak, everything is becoming political, it's taking the enjoyment out of life. Even content creators are attacked, for example, such and such is better than you, or they did it this way. All a content creator is, especially RUclipsrs they are entertainers. Yet enjoying a certain RUclipsr will make you a racist because that person said something when they were 15 and online that was intentionally edgy to get a reaction for lols. Heres the thing, we were all edgy assholes back then looking for a laugh while playing Runescape or World of Warcraft. FF13 was another product that fell victim to that edgelord nonsense we all use to do. Get this, when they remaster this, it will sell fast, it will sell rapidly, because on its launch and for 6 months after, finding a copy was no easy task. Keep in mind it was competing with Oblivion, Fallout: New Vegas, Modern Warfare, Battlefield, Red Dead Redemption, Dead Space, Grand Theft Auto 4, yet it was hard finding copies because nobody traded it in, it sold out. It sold out in that market, which when put on paper is absolutely incredible. I guess if you add 13-2 and lightning returns you can say they competed with Skyrim and The Witcher: Wild Hunt respectively.
I like the lore but hate how I need to read it through textbooks. I love the world but hate that I wont get to explore it do the linearity of the game. I love the story but hate main characters except Sazhs. Music is fantastic but leveling system is meh. Love the Barthandelious fights but hate that you actually need to grind to make beating them feasible. Combat is intresting but game over for death of controable char is maddening. I think game gets better towards the end but really hate the first half part. All in all I hate FF13 simply because it gets so many things right but has so many flaws its unenjoyable. Like really nice sport car without breaks or lights while driving at the evening. it gets 6/10 from me while ranging from 3 all the way up to 9 in some areas.
I remember 10 years ago everyone said they hate this game 10 years later everyone says they love it that's because FFXV & FFXVI was disappointment that's why you should always appreciate something while it's there in yes FF!3 was the last best Final Fantasy game .
The hope situation is really weird. Like, maybe a kid who goes through something that traumatic would be a little bitch IRL but the game didn't need a character like that. It added nothing to the story but annoyance
It was bound to be heavily criticized because its the first FF for that console generation. It is also highly anticipated as well which also can be said for FF15. Its also probably the first true modern FF where most of the FF fans are much older and had lived and played through the FF golden generation. I knew some people who had FF13 as their first FF and they enjoyed it. I personally enjoy it as well for the most part when it came out. The best part of the game for me is when we reached Archylte Steppe when the world itself opened up. The rest was fine. The real bad mainline FF is FF11. It's pretty much unplayable now and if you managed to go through the loops and hoops of installing the game, it is super janky and outdated with no mouse and keyboard support its so bad. Most people tell the worst gaming horror stories about FF11 from way back when but somehow they can still say they had a good time. That's both bad and toxic.
I personally watched a Let's Play of this game and the player was reading the new information in the menu frequently. I have to say the story felt way more comprehensible and almost easy. This game should have implemented its story way better BUT, if you're ready to take a bit of your time to read new information calmly, I can certify you your experience of this game will be ten times more enjoyable and you'll be able to keep track of the scenario.
I fell in love with it when it was released! I find the game haters "baby", "bandwagon", and "immature" to hate it... AHAHAHAHAHA, If you don't want linear, play the Souls game as most of Final Fantasy are linear for the first half of the game~ In game lore is available and it just so happen people hate to read as they think it is like reading "terms and condition" geez! Maybe today these haters grew up and are now asking for an HD Remaster of this game~ Please do not compare Lightning to Cloud that is wrong!!! Lightning dealt her issues accordingly and she's not emo like Cloud... I don't like FFX as this is the first FF that has voice talent and it was terrible HAHAHAHA I purchased the Trilogy because I did not expect to be FF7 like everybody does (Pathetic)~ Final Fantasy is not just FF7 BTW
It's a good game, it's just disappointing to me that it takes over halfway through the game for the gameplay to fully open up. Up until like chapter 9 or 10 it's just really boring and auto-pilot. Also, both the characters and story were pretty lame with the exception of Vanille and Fang (and to a certain extent Sazh). I'll give credit where it's due, though, and say that the overall setting and plot foundation were interesting. Ultimately, FF13 isn't bad, but it just fails to deliver on things that could've made it fantastic.
No, I don't think it's hypocritical to criticize 13 for its linearity but not having much problem with 10. FF13's linearity is not just the fact that it's linear, but also the fact that there aren't much variety in its gameplay loop and sense of exploring in the majority of the game. They just put you in a long corridor with nothing to do but fight. But I do definitely agree that ff13's battle is a much more enjoyable one than a lot of FF. I definitely enjoyed it more than 10's, lol.
I can partially understand some of the critics, but i think the very simple but effective gameplay of the fights is leading to the games longevity. After 14 years of release, i am still enjoying playing FF XIII and I am still hyped for the weapon crafting and its' opportunities. I don't feel so bad about the characters, I think they are not too homogenous and their stories fit in to each other. I am a male person but I can identify with both Lightning and especially Fang. In my opinion, Fang is one of the best written FF characters all time - lore good, fighting strongest and her look is awesome. FF XIII really convinced with female character.
It was pretty, I still do not like the combat- but as i get older and my hands hurt more- just want the simple combat of the past back…but I figured it was just made for the newer gen of ff fans - i can still play the previous ones - newer fans get the newer ones
Yes it is. There is no Easy Mode on console unless you have the Ultimate Hits Japanese version. Normal mode is too difficult and just frustrating even when you know the battle system inside out. It is incredibly tedious and not fun.
Believe it or not, but a walkthrough on gamefaqs said that you don't need to level up to beat the main story. Whoever wrote that probably played THAT specific version of the game. What a wanker.
Final Fantasy X the most overrated JRPG of all time. Huge step back from the PSX ones. Cringe voice acting, hateworthy protagonist, boring party, booooring villains, the epitome of linearity, undemanding combat system, technically indefinitely inferior to XII. Absolutely overrated and worst FF period.
It's not hipocritical to like X and find 13 too linear because 13 is more linear. One of the main critisms of 13 when they bring up it been too linear is the lack of towns. Also 10 had Blitzball which is one of the best FF mini games.
It’s not the fact it’s linear, it’s the fact that none of the towns you go to have any importance to the plot, apart from grand pulse and Eden You can’t even revisit the towns, well it wasn’t a big of a deal because those towns are forgotten Everyone says FF7, FFX are linear yes they are but unlike ff13 you revisit does towns and they play an important part in the overall drama of the game
@@OwtDaftUK There was literally no NPC’s to talk to, there wasn’t even any shop keepers to interact with, you buy items from a machine, that’s how lazy the game was
Fair review TBH I became a FF fan recently and went through all the games in order (minus 7 that was my first) and when I got 13 I couldn't help but be let down by it. The story was definitely confusing with all those terms they were throwing around and I only really liked two of the main characters (Lightening and Sazh) the rest I didn't care for too much especially Hope which I agree 100% with you. I think the sequels made me like the first one more, but without those I don't like 13 too much.
Ff13 had some positives and many negatives Personally I played this game not expecting it to be so good, but I actually enjoyed playing it and I do understand it had many problems
I am playing on PC right now, no framerate issues at all, and I have not installed any fanpatches. And I really love the game (except Hope, I wouldn't be be sad if he dies 😬 that whiny little 💩) Love the battlesystem as well.
Game wasn't bad because of the linear nature of the game and not because the battle system was kinda automatic but really enjoyable,it was bad because the characters are just not enjoyable not engaging,i felt nothing for anyone and especially from lighting which for me she was just a whiny FMC. That's my personal opinion
After playing FF12 (where the series peaked) I was really looking forward to FF13. I have been gaming since Pong came out in arcades and coffee shops and FF13 was easily the biggest disappointment I ever had. Had to force myself to finish it. No side activities. A 3 disc set that essentially consisted of one LONG battle. A "new, innovative battle system" that could be broken down to "mash the attack button till your thumb falls off". I have played all the Final Fantasy release's from the very first (on NES) to 12 (on PS2). I picked up 15 (on xbox 1) but was so disappointed by 13 that I have been unable to force myself to play it. It's really not an rpg anyways; it's an action game where you play one character while game plays all the other characters for you that has a few rpg elements. It's a crying shame that the one time greatest rpg game company in the world lost it's way so badly. RIP Squaresoft
FF 12 is where whole franchise took deep dive to mediocrity. from trash boring characters to garbage combat.... which kinda is a stable of the franchise now.
XIII's linearity was never the biggest issue although it's definitely a flaw and problem, the first like 15 hours are a legitimate hallway with nothing but a straight line to the next exact same hallway. XIII's gameplay and music were actually good and I guess it's pretty. The real main issue of XIII is the vapid boring bland characters, bad story, and writing that's why XIII has and will always be one of the worst games in the series. Story and characters are most important in an FF game and that's where XIII is the weakest. Hope is a an awful annoying characters, and Lightning is one of the worst too.
Let's be real here. FF13 problem is very simple. They spend 3/4 of the game on a linear storyline and when you finally is free to explore, IT'S NOT EVEN THE WORLD YOU SPEND THE 3/4 OF THE GAME. Most FF can be linear and storydriven, but many of them when they open the world, you are free the explore THE WHOLE WORLD. And that don't happend with FF13
ONLY problem I have on FF 13 was if your Main character dies, you cant switch to your other party members and you just get a game over. 13-2 fixed that.
Yea, that is a bit annoying, there's a few games like that. It kind of negates having an entire party lol
@@MinusInfernoGamingi played it back when i was like 15 or 17 idk and fall asleep like a couple hours in because the combat felt extremely automatic and boring idk
Its Basically Persona 3 4 and 5 if the main character dies game over
They seriously need to remaster part 1, and fix issues like this. Idk wtf they were thinking
People say shes like cloud but she's more similar to squall imo
Yes!!!!
The devs quite literally designed her to be a female Cloud, though. It was mentioned in all the interviews prior to the game's release.
No squall was literally a lone wolf who always kept his thoughts to himself and never liked interacting much or have any sense of humour
Lighting was similar to Cloud in her attitude
@@TaikomoI guess they failed and made her more like Squall? Lol
Squall does not talk. Agree with the previous commenter. She is the female Cloud
Finished it today. The best looking FF I have played so far. Maybe tied with 15 just a different art style. I love how high fantasy/sci fi it was. Totally original story and lore. Last couple chapters really got tough and was all about the battles was kinda a slog. Other than that though, I really enjoyed it. I got 10 and 12 left to get through. I played 10 and 12 part way but back then I wanted the complete package, and I was not into the linearity of 10 or the story of 12 so I dropped it. The reason I never got started on FF 13 until now. Same thing though, wanna go back to 10 and 12 and like them for their merits and not have hangups.
Ok, so that totally original story thing is just false. Not even the opening is original, my guy
You try being a 14 year old innocent kid who was vacationing at the wrong place and time, getting thrown into a mass genocide then losing your mom, then being turned into what everyone fears and is now out to get you. Ontop of you now needing to accomplish something or you get turned into a hell demon basically. If you really stop to think about Hope’s situation he gets thrown into a traumatic rollercoaster that only gets worse and worse for the beginning hours of the game. I could see people’s point more if he was never called out for his misplaced anger or if the game paints him as in the right, but the game makes it clear he’s in the wrong and even Lightning sticks up for Snow once he hears about the whole situation.
To add to that, misplaced anger is actually quite common in deaths of loved ones.
I loved XIII. My only issue (which they fixed in the sequel) was the crystarium progress being locked by chapter.
Yea, not getting to use it till like Chapter 3/4 is lame lol. Means none of the early game fights give you anything lol
FF XIII is incredible, no idea why folk dont like it.
Personally I don’t really like X… and in my eyes XIII doubled down on all the things I didn’t like about X.
@@aaronanderson16 Is it as cheesy as X? The acting on that one I couldn't stomach.
@@skycloud4802 the acting is better. But I personally don’t find the characters very likeable. Like I fully anticipate characters to have flaws but in general I didn’t like the characters of X at all… but the XIII characters are probably worse even though they are portrayed and acted better.
Because FF XIII don't like folk
Nobody hates it anymore, go into any video about FFXIII and you will ONLY find comments about people who liked it
It sure took quite some time for me to actually LEARN how to fight in the game properly. but these days it's pretty much the ONLY Final fantasy title I still play. I love the story that is being told and I LOVE each individual character developments. quite a shame that modern final fantasy titles DON'T do this anymore. not to the same extent at least.
As someone who played 15, bruh what are you talking about, the character development there is top notch. Final Fantasy 13 doesn’t have Ignis in it, which makes it the worse game by default
For me FF XIII Saga it's 10x better than FF XV
I am genuinely confused how people say the story is confusing? I had no problems understanding the story when I played this game when I was a kid. I hear the story was one of the main reasons people couldn’t get into it
Final Fantasy 13 is a really good game. It was the first rpg that made me learn the battle system inside and out. I would usualy just mash my way through and enjoy the story. But i love the paradigm mechanics . and the characters are really cool. I love Lightning. And Blinded By Light is one if the best sound tracks ever made. The world is beautiful. Sure its not like other Final Fantasys and that is fine.
People claim this game is just a hallway simulator. But that's just so dishonest. There's like 3 areas that are hallways.
There's more branching paths in 13 than there were in 10!
Also replaying right now, and there's also a surprising number of areas which are open and with something you need to do to progress.
I think FF13 would've been more beloved if they had us the players walk to all the new areas.
See, where FFX's cutscenes happen within the areas you're in, then after that you have to move yourself to the next area, FF13's cutscenes always lead to an entirely new area, and you the player never had to walk there, you always just spawn in after a new cutscene.
Which is just so jarring.
FFXIII was the very first FF I played but I didn't finish it 😅 Just like the video mentioned, I was put off by the linearity. And the battle system didn't click to me as well. I think I also had the hard time to understand the story which is a big thing for me to continue playing games. I remember some hard to read words and terms 😆 I actually rarely stop playing games without finishing, same with TV shows. I guess those things were too much to get over 😅
I did finish FFX though. During my childhood, I watched my older brother play FFVII which he never finished LOL
have you tried the other two FF XIII games? They are non-linear
@@michaelkarlsson5966 I'd probably have to finish XIII first though. Maybe one day I'll get back playing it 😄
I really liked FF 13 Hallway. LOL no seriously for me it was a great game loved the combat so different from others like 12 did with gambits oh loved 12...And now 16, FF keeps evolving for the better and ofc pissing many fans off. Great take on game nice vid. Exactly 10 is a huge Hallway but i guess its the story that makes so many overlook that.
Lol I didn't mind the pseudo- permadeath. Really raised the stakes in every fight.
I hated the linearity argument so much because 10 was linear. Also, in general there is nothing absolutely wrong with linear story games. Games aren't bad because they're opened world or linear. The answer is way more nuanced and complex than that. I mean look at the garbage churned out nowadays lol
I'm only here to see how many times the word "Hallway" appears in the comments. Because people are so incapable of forming their own thoughts and opinions that they have to repeat the same talking point, and in this case a single word, they saw on twitter for forever
13 is what Final Fantasy *should* have been, but couldn't get a remaster 😭
I liked it and cant wait to play the trilogy again when they eventually do an HD remaster
Hopefully they do one 🤞
I loved xiii when it came out and have played through it many times. I loved the battle system and the endgame content too. FFXI will always be my face but 10 and 13 are my fave single player. I need to go back and check out 15 again as I gave up as I much more prefer a turn based system.
Currently replaying them myself atm too, I have just hit disk 2 on 9.
FF7 was also my fist intro to the series too although I prefer 8 of the psone FF's.
I find this game to be awful. I hated the combat, I didn’t like a single character, and consider the story to be an uninteresting mess told very poorly.
I got my first Ps3 in 2009 and this was my first game to my console and my first FF game. Love it so much! Light!
Aren't final fantasy games linear? Its not that bad. Games now a days are open world but you can't do a lot with them. World is open, no interactions. Just repetitive gameplay
Yes and no. What usually happened was Final Fantasys would bounce between linear parts, then give the player freedom to return to villages and towns or like in 7, Different areas of Midgar. Where as 13 is completely linear for about 10-15 hours, then it opens. I think that's where the problem lies.
But I like the game, so it doesn't bother me lol 🤗
@@MinusInfernoGaming thats true. Thats what i always noticed with ff games. But i enjoy them a lot. I love the story telling and the gameplay. Thats what matters.
Good video btw summarized and points are taken. Thank you!
Exactly dude 🤘
Final Fantasy was linear but if you play their predecessor,you would not noticed it was linear game because at the some point you would realized the map was bigger and almost be like a open world when you unlocked the ship/airship.Please try to do a free roaming in those games and you would know what I meant.
But entering the PS3 era and onwards you would find the maps became smaller and less in number except for online titles and FF15(open world).I was personally disappointed with FF7 remake and FF16 with their linear gameplay while FF15 gave more satisfaction than I expected.
How do you like FF16 compared to FF13? Is the story better?
FF16 is very good. One of the best FFs, in my opinion. The characters, story and gameplay are great. Now I do really like 13, but it doesn't crack the top 10 FFs for me.
But if you have a PS5, or are waiting for it to come to PC and Xbox, it's definitely worth picking up 🤗
@@MinusInfernoGamingok that is good to hear. I've just started FF16 myself but so far I haven't been drawn into the world like I was with FF13. I'll keep going though since a lot of people are saying it's good
@mac1bc Yea I felt the same at the start of FF16. But it does get much better and the game opens up alot with Monster hunts and side quests too. Some side quests unlock things too, so they're worth doing
For me 16 blows 13 away. All around more enjoyable, but 13 had normal party members atleast like the old final fantasys.’ Only good thing about it compared to 16. 13 was barely average at best
What is the fan made patch that fixes the framerate issue on pc?
I feel every game has their quirk that someone doesn't like. FF13 has a lot of things going for it
The game is freaking amazing I just think nobody was ready for it yet. I’m playing it now for the first time and I love it
"Hope is a little bitch."
Sums it up nicely. Thirteen is my daughters favorite and she hates Hope.
Good 👍 He's a douche 🤣
Just played it before playing ff16 I have to say the game is as good as I remember it 13 years ago as a fact I like the gameplay more than any other ff gameplay
I agree I like it even more than 16
@@BankaiFever ff16 had an amazing story with addictive main characters Clive and Jill are Romeu and Juliet of the dark fantasy.
@@mohammedallha61 it is was a cheap GoT rip-off Even the seven houses, direwolves, old gods were straight up plucked from it but I don’t hate it I’m like 60% done with the game rn
@@BankaiFever I don’t want to spoil anything but I had the same thoughts half way playing but I think the ending changes everything it paid off
@@mohammedallha61 I’ll come back to this in a week when I finish it lol I’m excited now
Very underrated game. Paradigm battle system is a lot of fun. Much better than FF15 and FF16's messy combat. The characters other than Hope and Vanille are great. 8/10
I've played FF13 on the PS3. It wasn't too bad. I enjoyed it.
Love this game. Never got to play it back in the day as a PS3 player but I bought it for PC last year and really enjoyed it. Just need to go back and finish it cause I got sidetracked by a huge backlog of games and life in general.
Combat system is one of the best in the series and I love the Paradigm Shift mechanic. I even like the linearity. I don't need to waste my hours on open world busy work. The industry has been flooded with that type of stuff over the years.
Maybe I'm a FF heathen but I like a lot of the titles that a lot of the fanbase dislikes and parrots negatively about. FF12, 13, 15 and most recently 16. Been a franchise vet for 20 years myself but I got into the series with FFTA and my first mainline was 12. Which is maybe why I'm more open minded about the different directions the franchise can take.
Also, this has the second best OST in the series after FFX.
For a 13? 14? year old game, this still looks stunning, honestly one of my favourites visually from the series. (tldr: I liked FF13 and I hated it sequels)
The characters are fine, a little one noted but they fill the roles they are meant to. Nothing great but nothing bad either... I mean other than Hope... kid whined a bit too much. And I also disagree that Lightning is just female Cloud.
Story and lore is great! It's a shame most of it is just locked behind reading in a database that really kills the momentum and immersion. Really could've done more to explain things more naturally to the player other than "HEY SPEND HOURS READING!"
Gameplay isn't the best in the franchise by a long shot but it gets the job done and personally i didn't mind the linearity of it and I like the paradigm shift mechanic. I didn't like Auto-battle, but hey, I just didn't use it.
Honestly i can say i really enjoyed FF13, Loved it even, but maaaan I hate the FF13 trilogy, FF13-2 and Lightning Returns killed whatever it had going.
FF13 ended nicely and wrapped up most things. Then they just had to put unnecessary sequels... Even if FF13-2 fixed quite a few things for the battle system from the first game, it made me mad just playing it. And Lightning Returns was just a dumpster fire of a mess all around. really could've just left FF13 as a stand alone and I would've been happy.
People werent vibing with the battle system initially with the stagger mechanic and the “auto battle” command; along with doing away from traditional FF aspects for a more linear focused story; but ive see some people cape for it and people coming back around and finding more enjoyment
Literally 90% of FF13 gameplay was adapted and perfected in FF7 Remake.
I like all three FF XII games. I can't see anything really wrong with them. They are great fun games with alot of story and alot of things to do in them. And I really like Lightning. She's a bit dark and morose (like Squall in FFVIII) unlike many FF protagonists who are whimsical and kind of brain dead boys.
I enjoyed 13, though I liked 13-2 a lot better. Never played Lightning Returns though.
for me the lineraty was the best part in 13 after that i got huge issue because i had to grind so i dropt it. somehow i regret it now.
I loved 13. But only the first one. Part 2 and 3 sucked. I can see why square wants us forget it ever came out lol
Man, I'm really loving this redemption arc FFXIII has been getting in resent years
Yes, FF X was linear, but you could at least go back to earlier stages to grind for specific components. FF XIII only allowed grinding within the current stage which limited the range of collectable components.
On many occasions moving (forward) to the next stage would open up new branches of the skill tree only to place you in an area where the necessary components were rare.
The artwork was also a factor - FF X's corridors were largely enforced by terrain or showed a clear preferred road/path whereas FF XIII's looked wider than they were and featured invisible boundaries.
The burning bridges storyline of XIII doubtless led to the decision to enforce a forwards only game mechanic, but to players used to the grinding opportunities of other Final Fantasy games this only served to heighten the feeling of moving on rails.
That said I would still love to get a Nintendo Switch version to play on the go - having decided that the PS4 was a console too far this is the last mainstream FF game still stuck on my (dust collecting) Playstation 3.
Why didn't you finish the game
I figure most of the comments in here are going to be pro 13 but I am not one of them. I should start by saying that I have platinumed this and the other two games that are related to it meaning that I have played a significant amount of time with this game and do not complain without reason. Just google DavAnJac and my PSN should come up. I am of the opinion that it is the worst of the numbered series up to its own release. To be fair, the graphics are amazing even by today's standards and the music is glorious for sure. I would even say that many of the creature designs are some of the best in the FF games. But unlike you I found all of these characters insufferable. Whereas Lightning (stupid name) is a world's most violent block of wood and Hope is woeful as a character I absolutely despised Vanille more than Tidus's laugh. Each character portrays one solitary emotion and amps it up to 11 with virtually no character arch unlike that of Squall to whom you compare her. This game would be salvageable were it not for the characters whom you have to play. No, the least time you spend with these characters the better. In fact, I would say that 13-2 has a more likeable cast both in hero and villain. Even Lightning returns has fantastic villain. You made the comparison with X also being a hallway game but I would argue that it was a hallway done right. 13's hallways existed only to be mired through where as there were more things to do in X and if you missed them you could, in most cases, return unlike many of those in 13. I am also of the opinion that it this is the very worst battle system. I do not agree with the stagger combat, I find it to be wildly uncreative and a step in the wrong direction and I don't miss it thusly. I noticed that you didn't mention that if Lightning dies then it is game over regardless of any means of resurrection that you may have in your arsenal. The platinum trophy in this is an utter slog to complete due to having to have acquired all items in the game which is important because of the areas to which you cannot return, the lack of new game+, hours upon hours of unimaginative and dull farming, and also your weapon's max form bears the same name and resemblance regardless of the weapon from which it evolved so you may not even have ever obtained the weapon needed in the first place thereby negating any unfortunate amount of farming that you may have put into it. And when you don't enjoy the game the path to platinum is no longer a fun adventure and challenge but a chore. There are a plethora of criticisms that I could hurl at this game but I will hold onto that ammo.
When all is said and done that is just my opinion. If you loved it, that's fine. I know that I like a few games that are outliers unto all but myself. But you asked for my comment and I am giving it.
I disagree, you said "each character portrays one solitary emotion and amps it up to 11" i would say, each character portrays one solitary annoying emotion and ramps it up to 11.
@@Jinkzed I stand corrected.
I also got platinum on this game back when it came out on ps3, it was my only game at the time so its what i had to play… it SUCKED so bad god i agree with you.
@@alphabromega859 Amen and amen.
The only thing wrong with FFXIII is it is completely unpalatable from the start and overstays its welcome after 20 minutes.
I've owned this game since it released, and try to play it every couple of years. I've never made it past the mech fight on the frozen lake. I absolutely hate the paradigm system, it just never clicked with me. I always hear people saying the paradigm system was the best thing about the game, but it's what ends up driving me away every time.
It's a bit reductionist to say that FFX and FFXIII's linearity are the same. In FFX, the game did a good job of breaking up the combat with other tasks. There were definitely more towns and locations where you could interact with people compared to FFXIII. On top of this, there were the puzzle sequences in the Cloister of the Trials that separated the combat quite a bit in the game, not to mention the blitzball sequence and some others. FFXIII didn't have any of that, and that can definitely make the game feel very samey. It's not really apples to apples.
I think another reason FFX is considered better is frankly the characters are more well-written and less annoying. The story and lore is also a lot more compelling for most people. The turn-based combat system with move orders as well as the differences between character's pros and cons makes the combat a lot more interesting early on - it takes way too long for FFXIII's combat system to open up. Also, the sphere grid is strictly better because it's deeper and requires more choices from the player, and I don't think that's very subjective. FFXIII is simply holding a button and filling in all the nodes - it's about as linear and brainless as most of the game itself.
People that say "if you hate 13 then why do you love 10" are also misunderstanding why 10 is the better game, almost like they never played 10. The reason why 10 is the better game is simply because there is a lot more variety in its gameplay. It's not just walk forward + combat. It's got minigames, side quests, secrets, collectibles, puzzles, it's got hubs where you actually interact with NPC's. And it's also not linear forever, once you get the airship you can go back to any area in the game.
@pyropulseIXXI but even the non-linear areas have exactly the same gameplay loop, just combat. There's no gameplay variety.
I skipped this game after its release and the bad criticism it received, I continued with my life and forgot about this game entirely. It is now 2024 (there was a sale on almost all FF games recently) when I decided to give it a try and I genuinely loved it, from start to finish, even its linearity, already got all achievements on FF13 and I am now trying to get them all on FF13-2 as well, I have finished the story and I am doing the post game content. Once done I'm probably jumping on FF13 Lightning Returns before FF7 Rebirth drops.
I had ok time with 13. But severely lacking in having a good rpg mechanics and gameplay, just look at star ocean last hope that came out around similar times now that was a real jrpg even tho that wasn’t all that great but it had plenty of big environments to explore and towns: ff13 was just a average at best game: part 2 was enjoyable kinda, average, and part 3 was awful.
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literally bro
Nothing is wrong with 13, its just a regular FF game.
The real issue is the time of its release, 2009-2010 the internet went from being optional to being you need the internet for everything.
During this time forum sites were swamped by people just hating literally everything for no real reason.
It has progressed to this very day, you can't enjoy a game, movie, TV series, musician without being crucified.
Now as we speak, everything is becoming political, it's taking the enjoyment out of life.
Even content creators are attacked, for example, such and such is better than you, or they did it this way.
All a content creator is, especially RUclipsrs they are entertainers.
Yet enjoying a certain RUclipsr will make you a racist because that person said something when they were 15 and online that was intentionally edgy to get a reaction for lols.
Heres the thing, we were all edgy assholes back then looking for a laugh while playing Runescape or World of Warcraft.
FF13 was another product that fell victim to that edgelord nonsense we all use to do.
Get this, when they remaster this, it will sell fast, it will sell rapidly, because on its launch and for 6 months after, finding a copy was no easy task.
Keep in mind it was competing with Oblivion, Fallout: New Vegas, Modern Warfare, Battlefield, Red Dead Redemption, Dead Space, Grand Theft Auto 4, yet it was hard finding copies because nobody traded it in, it sold out.
It sold out in that market, which when put on paper is absolutely incredible.
I guess if you add 13-2 and lightning returns you can say they competed with Skyrim and The Witcher: Wild Hunt respectively.
cope more
I like the lore but hate how I need to read it through textbooks.
I love the world but hate that I wont get to explore it do the linearity of the game.
I love the story but hate main characters except Sazhs.
Music is fantastic but leveling system is meh.
Love the Barthandelious fights but hate that you actually need to grind to make beating them feasible.
Combat is intresting but game over for death of controable char is maddening.
I think game gets better towards the end but really hate the first half part.
All in all I hate FF13 simply because it gets so many things right but has so many flaws its unenjoyable. Like really nice sport car without breaks or lights while driving at the evening. it gets 6/10 from me while ranging from 3 all the way up to 9 in some areas.
I remember 10 years ago everyone said they hate this game 10 years later everyone says they love it that's because FFXV & FFXVI was disappointment that's why you should always appreciate something while it's there in yes FF!3 was the last best Final Fantasy game .
The hope situation is really weird. Like, maybe a kid who goes through something that traumatic would be a little bitch IRL but the game didn't need a character like that. It added nothing to the story but annoyance
It was bound to be heavily criticized because its the first FF for that console generation. It is also highly anticipated as well which also can be said for FF15. Its also probably the first true modern FF where most of the FF fans are much older and had lived and played through the FF golden generation. I knew some people who had FF13 as their first FF and they enjoyed it. I personally enjoy it as well for the most part when it came out. The best part of the game for me is when we reached Archylte Steppe when the world itself opened up. The rest was fine. The real bad mainline FF is FF11. It's pretty much unplayable now and if you managed to go through the loops and hoops of installing the game, it is super janky and outdated with no mouse and keyboard support its so bad. Most people tell the worst gaming horror stories about FF11 from way back when but somehow they can still say they had a good time. That's both bad and toxic.
I personally watched a Let's Play of this game and the player was reading the new information in the menu frequently. I have to say the story felt way more comprehensible and almost easy. This game should have implemented its story way better BUT, if you're ready to take a bit of your time to read new information calmly, I can certify you your experience of this game will be ten times more enjoyable and you'll be able to keep track of the scenario.
I actually enjoyed it a heck of a lot more then ff 10. I thought 10 kinda sucked. It might be because it rolled the ps1 trilogy which was phenomenal.
I fell in love with it when it was released! I find the game haters "baby", "bandwagon", and "immature" to hate it... AHAHAHAHAHA, If you don't want linear, play the Souls game as most of Final Fantasy are linear for the first half of the game~ In game lore is available and it just so happen people hate to read as they think it is like reading "terms and condition" geez!
Maybe today these haters grew up and are now asking for an HD Remaster of this game~
Please do not compare Lightning to Cloud that is wrong!!! Lightning dealt her issues accordingly and she's not emo like Cloud...
I don't like FFX as this is the first FF that has voice talent and it was terrible HAHAHAHA
I purchased the Trilogy because I did not expect to be FF7 like everybody does (Pathetic)~ Final Fantasy is not just FF7 BTW
It's a good game, it's just disappointing to me that it takes over halfway through the game for the gameplay to fully open up. Up until like chapter 9 or 10 it's just really boring and auto-pilot. Also, both the characters and story were pretty lame with the exception of Vanille and Fang (and to a certain extent Sazh). I'll give credit where it's due, though, and say that the overall setting and plot foundation were interesting. Ultimately, FF13 isn't bad, but it just fails to deliver on things that could've made it fantastic.
No, I don't think it's hypocritical to criticize 13 for its linearity but not having much problem with 10. FF13's linearity is not just the fact that it's linear, but also the fact that there aren't much variety in its gameplay loop and sense of exploring in the majority of the game. They just put you in a long corridor with nothing to do but fight.
But I do definitely agree that ff13's battle is a much more enjoyable one than a lot of FF. I definitely enjoyed it more than 10's, lol.
Lol thats cool I hate Blitzball and always have 🤣🤣 But every FF has something people are divided on, makes life interesting lol
@@MinusInfernoGaming Yeah, lol. I hate blitzball too and I'm probably one of the minority for loving the cloister of trial section.
The Cloister Trials aren't too bad. But I'm not a sports guy, so as soon as I was forced to play Blitzball I wanted to jump out the window 🤣
I can partially understand some of the critics, but i think the very simple but effective gameplay of the fights is leading to the games longevity.
After 14 years of release, i am still enjoying playing FF XIII and I am still hyped for the weapon crafting and its' opportunities.
I don't feel so bad about the characters, I think they are not too homogenous and their stories fit in to each other.
I am a male person but I can identify with both Lightning and especially Fang. In my opinion, Fang is one of the best written FF characters all time - lore good, fighting strongest and her look is awesome. FF XIII really convinced with female character.
Never spent Gil comon bruh. I hear ya but
The amount of cope for this game is funny
yes.
It was pretty, I still do not like the combat- but as i get older and my hands hurt more- just want the simple combat of the past back…but I figured it was just made for the newer gen of ff fans - i can still play the previous ones - newer fans get the newer ones
Yes it is. There is no Easy Mode on console unless you have the Ultimate Hits Japanese version.
Normal mode is too difficult and just frustrating even when you know the battle system inside out.
It is incredibly tedious and not fun.
Believe it or not, but a walkthrough on gamefaqs said that you don't need to level up to beat the main story. Whoever wrote that probably played THAT specific version of the game. What a wanker.
no, it's much better than 15 and 16. characters, gameplay, story. almost everything except graphics. Real Unserrate.
Final Fantasy X the most overrated JRPG of all time. Huge step back from the PSX ones. Cringe voice acting, hateworthy protagonist, boring party, booooring villains, the epitome of linearity, undemanding combat system, technically indefinitely inferior to XII. Absolutely overrated and worst FF period.
Preach dude 🤗
@@MinusInfernoGaming 😂
It's not hipocritical to like X and find 13 too linear because 13 is more linear. One of the main critisms of 13 when they bring up it been too linear is the lack of towns. Also 10 had Blitzball which is one of the best FF mini games.
I said similar in a longer comment too. 13 is trash for me.
It’s not the fact it’s linear, it’s the fact that none of the towns you go to have any importance to the plot, apart from grand pulse and Eden
You can’t even revisit the towns, well it wasn’t a big of a deal because those towns are forgotten
Everyone says FF7, FFX are linear yes they are but unlike ff13 you revisit does towns and they play an important part in the overall drama of the game
@@csmith3248 Yeah and in 13 you don't get those sitations where you can go to NPC and talk to them.
@@OwtDaftUK
There was literally no NPC’s to talk to, there wasn’t even any shop keepers to interact with, you buy items from a machine, that’s how lazy the game was
Fair review TBH I became a FF fan recently and went through all the games in order (minus 7 that was my first) and when I got 13 I couldn't help but be let down by it. The story was definitely confusing with all those terms they were throwing around and I only really liked two of the main characters (Lightening and Sazh) the rest I didn't care for too much especially Hope which I agree 100% with you. I think the sequels made me like the first one more, but without those I don't like 13 too much.
Ff13 had some positives and many negatives
Personally I played this game not expecting it to be so good, but I actually enjoyed playing it and I do understand it had many problems
watching movie for 25 hours and pressing X does sound like epic gameplay.
@@critical-thinker666
Pressing X and Occasionally pressing L1 to shift paradigm
@@csmith3248 i quite sure when i played in at release i was mashing X whole game and last 5-10 boss fights i had to use L1.
I am playing on PC right now, no framerate issues at all, and I have not installed any fanpatches. And I really love the game (except Hope, I wouldn't be be sad if he dies 😬 that whiny little 💩) Love the battlesystem as well.
It's definitely way worse than most games
And that list of games you've played is a really short one.
@@ninjasniperproductions4476 and the list of goods you've played are non existent
@@frogglen6350 I don't play bad games.
Game wasn't bad because of the linear nature of the game and not because the battle system was kinda automatic but really enjoyable,it was bad because the characters are just not enjoyable not engaging,i felt nothing for anyone and especially from lighting which for me she was just a whiny FMC. That's my personal opinion
That's fair dude, I feel that way about Hope lol
After playing FF12 (where the series peaked) I was really looking forward to FF13. I have been gaming since Pong came out in arcades and coffee shops and FF13 was easily the biggest disappointment I ever had. Had to force myself to finish it. No side activities. A 3 disc set that essentially consisted of one LONG battle. A "new, innovative battle system" that could be broken down to "mash the attack button till your thumb falls off". I have played all the Final Fantasy release's from the very first (on NES) to 12 (on PS2). I picked up 15 (on xbox 1) but was so disappointed by 13 that I have been unable to force myself to play it. It's really not an rpg anyways; it's an action game where you play one character while game plays all the other characters for you that has a few rpg elements. It's a crying shame that the one time greatest rpg game company in the world lost it's way so badly. RIP Squaresoft
13 for me is trash. I left a longer comment saying as much. FF6 and 12 are my favourites. The characters in 12 are soooo much better and likeable.
FF 12 is where whole franchise took deep dive to mediocrity.
from trash boring characters to garbage combat.... which kinda is a stable of the franchise now.
XIII's linearity was never the biggest issue although it's definitely a flaw and problem, the first like 15 hours are a legitimate hallway with nothing but a straight line to the next exact same hallway.
XIII's gameplay and music were actually good and I guess it's pretty. The real main issue of XIII is the vapid boring bland characters, bad story, and writing that's why XIII has and will always be one of the worst games in the series. Story and characters are most important in an FF game and that's where XIII is the weakest. Hope is a an awful annoying characters, and Lightning is one of the worst too.
The game is optimized to play itself. IMO only saving grace is how the Eidolons fight.
all the characters sucked. destroyed the game.
I said the exact same thing in a much longer statement. The characters are the very worst part of this horrible game.
I did like Sazh as a character, the only realistic character and I liked his story
@@csmith3248 I found him to be ...well...the least irritating.
Let's be real here. FF13 problem is very simple. They spend 3/4 of the game on a linear storyline and when you finally is free to explore, IT'S NOT EVEN THE WORLD YOU SPEND THE 3/4 OF THE GAME.
Most FF can be linear and storydriven, but many of them when they open the world, you are free the explore THE WHOLE WORLD. And that don't happend with FF13
13 for me is trash. I left a longer comment saying as much.
@@davidjacobs8117 I love Lightning, but yes. Everything from gameplay to plot to story-pace is trash