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American Reacts Europe BANNED these American foods. Here’s why
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2023
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You're just 'defending' in general hearing crap about your country, and most 'questioning' had quite good points 🙃✌
At least your prepared to watch these videos it's not easy .
Don't worry about it, only natural to do so really (speaking as the most annoyingly devil's advocate type myself). Still enjoy watching your stuff. People disagree, doesn't mean we have to close off. Better to openly be at odds and engaging than to ignore any differences. Keep going!
@@daxdasche6112 Yeah, have the contrarian gene myself. Find myself arguing against my own opinion quite often.. As you say - better to be open than self censor, engagement is engagement.
Please don`t take this the wrong way!. Tbh I think your video`s from years ago - you were sometimes aggressive, quite cold, not really that friendly.....However nowadays you`re totally the opposite, so open, genuinely Interested, fun & dare I say `cuddly`?!. Don`t change ok?. I love the variety of reaction videos you do - no one can match you for this.
That's the problem. Even when americans find out their food contains all sorts of crap, they're still not bothered.
Like everything else in America, money comes first.
Corporate cash and customer convenience. Convenience is a tough habit to crack.
So true thats why my opinion is they deseeve it being scammed.
You're clutching at straws trying to defend the USA's lack of care over the end user. It's all about making more money.
You're completely right. The Great God Money rules over health in America .
He always does couch at straw’s.
Almost as though there are a bunch o' cowboys over there 🤠
You can’t ignore the fact that on average American life expectancy is basically 5 years less than a lot of countries. Some of that is attributed to better health care in other countries, but also better foods without unnecessary additives.There are a few videos of American s living in Europe who state within two weeks they felt healthier, and many who were overweight loss weight naturally without trying. Those who returned to the US said within 2 - 3 weeks , they felt bloated and not well.. I wouldn’t trust the American FDA as far as I could throw them.
If we have to call them vegetable loops because they contain vegetables, then by that logic, you can’t call yours fruit loops because they don’t contain fruit… 🤔
That’s fair
Chemical loops
We've also lost basic natural principles : in nature, many of the bright flashy or fluo colors signify poisonous or yucky, not yummy...!
And on the other end in Europe, several industrial producers of ultra transformed and additive-filled shitty products have selected rather bland or natural looking colors to fool consumers and bypass their repulsion of "chemical foods".
A quick read of the label is a litany of E numbers...
That's hopefully reducing every day thanks to the current trend of strong consumer push against these kinds of deceptions.
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Notice, he didn’t mention that the states have actually done the research, but simply said that there is no statistical evidence to say that it damages humans. Even if America did do all of the research, Europe is huge on Animal Welfare !
Yeah it seems like animal welfare is not much of a priority at all in the US industry and that's really, really sad, quality of life should be a huge priority. As for the other stuff, if you take an 'everything in moderation' approach and sometimes eat a vegetable you're probably fine.
yeah. if you look at the things with the cows, the chickens and the pigs, the issue is hardly the harm on humans. obviously the harm on humans is taken into consideration, but it's the harm caused to the animals while they're still alive that causes those things from being banned. the e.u doesn't want farmers putting their animals through whatever type of suffering for the sake of profit
There is also another side to this. A lot of research has shown that animals that are treated better and are under less stress actually produce better quality meat and products. Hens who are in free range enivroments apparently lay eggs that are larger more often and have more yolk and in Japan cows used for Wagyu beef are treated with a huge ammount of affection and care and are kept at as healthy as possible and farmers swear that is the main reason why that meat is incredibly good and also why its so expensive because of the round the clock care the cattle are given and of course the cost of buildings they are kept in, the land and best food they can get to feed them.
@@ghfdt368 I'm not a huge meat eater but I have a Wagyu beefburger, in a brioche bun, with a tiny squirt of tomato relish every Wednesday at home for dinner and the flavour and texture is amazing. Nothing else is needed. I also agree that the treatment of animals is a huge factor on it's taste.
McJibbin was trying to understand the difference but Evan is an American living here for 10years still having a fondness of his favourite childhood food's. I think McJibbin was doing the same but not really caring about the small amount of unnecessary additives' . I think he should watch a different more informed take on the subject.👍
Spinach and nettles are natural green dyes, not for flavour.
Connor - I think your argument about Muslim countries is pretty invalid. It said on the screen while you were saying it "160 countries ban or restrict the use of this drug DURING PIG PRODUCTION.". I'm pretty sure Muslim countries don't have any pig production and so won't be included in this survey. In fact you could ADD those countries to the other 160, making the number quite a bit higher.
Yeah, it's a big assumption that all 50 Muslim-majority countries would be included in this. Especially the 30 ones which have more than 80%. Like, why would you find it necessary to make a specific ban if no one actually eats the general product?
You have said it yourself Connor. The reason the EU is so careful to make sure all products are perfectly healthy for consumption is that we don't share the problem of american individualism. The state and EU as a whole looks to take care of the collective, while the US mindset is "Each one is responsible for himself". I suppose that was the only benefit of the cold war for europe, as we took in the soviet collectivist views as well as whatever positive we took from the US, that in the end led to the current system, which me as an EU citizen am perfectly fine with. I have no problem with the food i eat and the fact i know its safe and there is near to 0 risk of chemicals etc. makes it all the better
Well, the problem with the food and drink in the US is that it can be very hard to be "responsible for yourself". Unless you live on a farm or have access to some quality grocery stores or farmers' markets, in many places it's hard to find things with few additives.
The EU went even for Google and FB bcs they didnt like what they do with its citizens Information. USA needs to start care bcs shit is going down fast.
Don't forget something important : cocktail effect.
That's where the FDA approach crumbles (and even EU's approach).
The low probability of adverse effects of one particular additive at an infinitesimal dose is drastically multiplied by the combination / presence of others. Some other previously unknown effects can also appear when 2 or more molecules are combined or their dosage threshold of adverse effects can be massively reduced.
Because molecules are tested independently and testing all combinations is realistically impossible, EU's approach is more protective but still not enough.
A large number of scientists are sounding the alarm about the cocktail effect of different additives, pesticide residues, plasticizers residues (in food ware and skin products), etc.
So a number of countries, usually with a strong cuisine culture, have tighten their own laws or pressed their MEP's to restrict or ban usage and imports in EU.
There's also a fight by consumer groups against the food industry to list absolutely everything on labels.
Some apps also exist to rate products according to their use of additives.
The industry has fought tooth and nails against these apps and they've hopefully lost.
The success of these apps has forced many industrial food producers and corporations to change their recipes to reduce the number and quantity of additives.
It's not the governments playing mommy as long the balance between between consumer rights and corporations / industry keeps being heavily skewed towards industry.
Kind of part 2 :
The app I talked about is called Yuka and is used by millions in Europe and now some other countries / continents. (It's not the only one of the kind, there's also Open Food Facts, etc.)
It enables you to scan the products in supermarkets before buying, it lists ingredients and gives a score.
This was so powerful that the sales of some products have plummeted so producers had to modify their products by removing problematic additives or all additives to up their score and restore their sales.
Yuka has been sued, re sued and sued again by the industry, corporation groups and lobbies.
As I said they hopefully have won every time against the industry as they inform the public and many consumers consider their service as a public one.
It should be the job of the governments to force producers to better list all ingredients. They only partially do that.
Sadly, official agencies are still heavily influenced by industrial lobbying, less than in the US but still way too much.
Yes Connor its bad . I'd rather not have those additives and chemicals in my food thank you very much .
Of course it has downside: it's more expensive.
But I rather pay a bit more for better quality.
As an adult, you can make an informed decision, but only if you are given the information. In the UK, all packaging has to list any adverse effects that it may have, but that just doesn't happen in the US, so unless you research what is in your food you just don't know
So what you are saying is You would rather eat crap as long as it has enough sugar in it and tastes good?
and doesn´t care about the animals if his food is clean
If potassium cyanide wouldn't be so expensive - it is really sweet, so why not adding this to the food. Ok maybe the chance of a 100% death rate is a little bit higher than the FDA accepted threshold. But come on it makes the food so colorfull and tasty.
The trouble is, if there's a low chance to be affected by a particular food, there's a good chance to be affected by SOME food, because ALL your food has that low risk! It's not really "mommying"
There is a simple rule: Everything that your body doesn't need to survive shouldn't enter your mouth. Everything else is a potential risk, no matter if there is a study or not (studies usually done by the very ones producing the stuff in the first place).
The guy with this channel is open minded except when it comes to topics about the US. There is always a BUT and he tries to smooth it down in one way or another.
After weaning, a human being doesn't need milk. It's just habit that keeps us drinking it. I don't drink it. I get my dairy fix from yogurt and cheese...sheep milk yogurt and cheese. It's less likely to be allergy-inducing, and healthier for the heart and digestion.
Fda is only interested on profit, they don't care if you die or go pankrupt for medical bills, because u eat all that crap they allow.
I usually like your videos, but this time it really got on my nerves.
So many foods have these "extras", that on their own aren't such a big deal, but when most food you eat have these little extras, it really starts to add up over the course of a lifetime. I think the difference in countries outside the US is national healthcare systems, where prevention is better than cure, so ultimately it keeps costs down, healthier population and less dependent on the state.
E in E numbers does not intrinsically mean extra.
It is a European wide system of classifying/clarifying food additives.
Eg. Ascorbic acid.
Well...
In Europe the wellfare of both humans and animals comes before profit, atleast most of the time...
Why use potentially harmful substanses... And yes, sugar can also be considered harmful if the amount consumed is high enough...
And this goes from food for both humans and animals to which substanses that's allowed in for example paint, eg some time ago some toys made in asia somewhere was painted with some amount of led content if I remember correctly, might not the best alternative for toys that children maybe chew on...
And i've tasted vegan bacon at a friends place... It wasn’t exactly like bacon but depending on how you use it even I think it was acceptable
Greetings from Sweden
are you ok to eat plastic if it's in bread? saying it doesn't matter since you don't see the link?
As you're American I'll dumb this down for you.
You stated that worrying about what is healthy and what's not is sickening. So why not ban all the additives that make people sick so you don't have to worry?
Also, consider the health of the people in the US to the rest of the world, who is healthier, who lives longer, who faces thousands in medical bills because the food kills you slowly?
yes, you just have to listen to the people who experienced being outside of the USA and eating food in the EU for example. they dont feel horrible after eating, they dont gain weight eating the same kind of stuff and some even lose their allergies. it just tells me everything when i see this. i feel so bad for americans, they dont know or they dont have a choice
No need for the "As your an American... dumb down." Comment. It gives a bad impression of we British.
@@davidfrost5485 What?
Was there any need for that first sentence?
What annoys me is when people insult others and then expect them to listen to them as opposed to the realistic outcome of getting told precisely where to go.
Learn how to reason with people, insulting is not the way; more the direct opposite.
@@Delicious_J How is "since you're an american" an insult? I guess it could be because canadians, brazilians, mexicans, columbians and everyone else living in North and South America are americans. Am I right?
There are ways and means of making things taste good withouth throwing sugar at the problem. The issue is that that is all the US food manufacturers seem to know how to do. Its cheep, it works and so they rely on it. As long as they are rolling in cash they do not care what their produce does to your health or your tastebuds.
Connor, you can eat what you want and eat delicious things. You don’t NEED glowing fruit loops and janitor chicken. Sure, eating a chlorine chicken may or may not be worse than non-chlorinated washed chicken. But it’s starts to add up after all. It’s not one product, it’s the sum that can and mostly likely will harm you in the long run.
Greetings from 🇩🇪 (BreadCountry 😉)!
So, when it comes to bread... A good bread needs the following ingredients:
Flour
Water
Yeast
Salt
And most importantly: TIME!
That weird foam stuff sitting on the shelf in your supermarket is everything... just not bread!🤢
There are so many chemicals in there it's more like insulating foam than bread.
You will not be "mothered"!
I have no idea what is so difficult to understand!?
As a normal citizen, you can't tell what is dangerous/poisonous in certain quantities! And that is exactly why chemicals/or additives are limited or banned. Because they can be dangerous in too large quantities or certain combinations.
I'm having a "discussion" on another video with an American, who thinks feeding school children pizza and chocolate milk for breakfast is fine.
That's where it all begins.
They eat that crap all their lives, then wonder why they're fat, have diabetes and don't live long.
Animal welfare is a major concern in the UK especially in the food industry, plus we tend to like clean food - not stuff that has dubious chemicals added to it. As a British man I avoid all food from the USA and countries that do not have our high standards of food production and animal welfare.
I know that I prefer the EU rules where the chickens are kept clean and in hygienic conditions rather than have them washed in chlorine before consumption.
Without being too cheeky, we care enough about the animal and what we put into ourselves, to let it affect our pockets.
Isn't the "cows have less good lives" enough reason?
Like, the entire "no evidence for a worse product" seems kind of superflius to me.
Lives of the animals does actually get taken into account in Europe.
If no study done, how can a company guarantee safety. I, myself, would never eat or drink anything with unnecessary additives . He's wrong about chlorinated chicken, 80% of people in the UK refused to accept it in a poll, some years ago.You would soon stop laughing if you saw the horrendous effect on animals, for the sake of profit.
The first reaction of yours where you have come across as a real American !! (that's not a compliment) 🤦♂
I guess it's a thing when you have universal healthcare: it makes sense to look after people's health and keep them healthy rather than have everyone eat crap and get sick which'll cost everyone more. Same as in the UK you can (in some areas with trials etc) be prescribed a gym membership (I think in my area it's 2 or 3 months?) to help manage things like back pain/weight loss etc. Yeah it costs the NHS money to pay for that, but in the long run it saves a lot of money with problems these people will have had in the future. The US seems to be very much a "me me me" society where nobody gives a damn about anyone else (until it's time to beg on social media for money to pay medical bills) and consequences of actions.
So yeah, I'm perfectly happy with the UK banning/cutting down on unnecessary crap that could lead to more health problems and put the cost of the NHS up. I'm not a massive fan of the "sugar tax" because I'm a big chocolate fan, but I understand why it's happening as many people (myself included in the past) eat far more chocolate than is ever healthy.
Just look at the history of freaking grocery items (or stuff that you can buy in general) in the US. Remember that radioactive child toy set, that was sold in the US in the 50s, that included fancy radioactive materials that are very risky to your health? Yes, that was sold in the US. Or the tobaco industry, claiming cigarettes are fine for you. And with that mindset in the US, similar mistakes will be made right now and in the future. A more cautious approach seems like a good idea to me, just based on what mistakes have been made so far. How many companies have sworn that their products are save and we later found out, that they actually sold death sentenses? I guess Americans love to sue those companies and hope for huge money, but only very few people will ever get this result, while the price you pay often is pretty high and most won't get that sweet money.
There's no middle ground - we're being protected against US food and drink.
I don't think you got the E numbers, they're not banned additives, it's just a list of additives. And there are rules for each one. The ones he mentioned in the video aren't even banned, they just require a warning about possible effects on children.
No, the spinach and nettles are for natural colouring, not flavours! The flavours are natural, from fruits, and in my book they taste 100% better than the original Froot Loops. Delicious!
21:12 "Just add sugar!"
or... why not change to a different actually healthy breakfast... That is tasty enough without an adition of sugar to cardboard cereal to make it taste...
Fruit is a great alternative, homemade bread with hard cheese and honey/fruit. If you wanna stay with cereal, mix your own muesli. Add nuts and fruit (apple, citrus, yogurt, and if you like it sweet honey. Much healthier than anything out of a box.
Anything but cardboard quality cereal, you'd need to add sugar to make it taste acceptable.
I'm starting to look at Asia and breakfast Noodle soups. Seem to be healthier.
Muslim countries ban pork. Banning weird chemicals that are put in pork would be pointless. In any case I want meat that is free from weird synthetic hormones or other chemicals. Whether there are proven health issues or not I still don't want to eat meat from animals that seriously suffer during their lifetime just to make a buck for the producer. There's a thing called ethics that seems to have been forgotten in the US after a century of ever-increasing "$ is god" mentality.
They banned a Kinder Egg in the States because of the toy in it. However, you can have a gun! I believe Kinder Eggs have gone to the trouble of changing.
You don't want to be mommied by the government but you'll take any crap from a company. I lived in the US and found it really difficult to get food not laced with all sorts of crap and sweeteners and found it very discomfiting for a while. I know you get used to stuff but when you have little choice because everything you are presented with seems to have it, it is not a choice. In the end I found the Amish market and got a chance to get some real food again. I know there are options for good stuff but as a newcomer I found it completely drowned and difficult to locate. You need a holiday in the Med Connor.
there is one big difference. In EU all citizens are paying for your tratment, in US you are paying (or daying). So EU has more preventing way of work. In US they dont care, profit comes first.
For all alcoholics booze is very good and tasty, the same with drugs... and food can be drug also. There are substances in food which are very addictive.
After a two years of very pure and natural diet I can taste most of chemicals in food. I almost not eating now any highly processed food... and I feel great :)
Convince me "is it bad" he says lol. You really have to ask ..
i'm sorry but you really would prefer the FDA's stance of effectively "not enough people have died to outweigh all the money they paid me" vs the European way of "prove that its actually safe to use first"? if there is one thing that your country does need, it is people to actually start giving a shit about each other rather than just money.
The absolute biggest problem, as I see it as a biochemist, is the standard use of antibiotics. It's not used to treat any infection either, it's given in high doses to promote weight gain.
Eventually the superbacteria that is resistant to ALL known antibiotics will be dominant and if you get a bacterial infection at that point the best case scenario is amputation of one or more limbs. That's best case, worst case is systemic infection in which case you'll die.
Now consider that we ALL have had several bacterial infections in our lives, we've all had a stomach bug or some form of inflammation (ear, sinus, skin infections). Imagine if the standard treatment for that was always amputation or just waiting for you to die.
Your defence of your food standards is admirable, even though they may be doing you harm.
Watching this I'd say harm has already been done.
An important consideration with the regulation in Europe vs the US is that in Europe practices and additives must be proven safe to be allowed, and in the US they must be proven harmful to be banned. This actually changes the way lobbying works, because companies in Europe have to commission independent safety studies to get things approved, while doing nothing to keep them banned. So yeah, don't read too much into US companies lobbying the EU for rules changes (that's normal process). Instead, read into the fact that they can't or aren't willing to produce a safety study that would straightforwardly remove the ban.
In the US, something has to be proven harmful before it can be banned.
In Europe, something has to be proven to be harmless before it can be placed on the market.
I love that Europe just doesn't let harmful things onto the market, not even for adults.
If it were allowed for adults, you'd have to be constantly reading that long fine print on the packaging and dealing with hundreds of chemicals if you didn't want to eat crap.
Greetings from Germany :D
Whereas I get that you're young and are currently unconcerned with the chemicals that you're ingesting, i suspect that once you have children of your own, and want the best for your family's health, your viewpoint will somewhat change.
Enjoying your content, keep up the good work!
Such a large percentage of the foods I eat is produce, meat with no additives, etc. that I feel quite certain that I don't ingest very large quantities of any bad stuff. It also helps to have a varied diet, so IF something you eat is harmful, at least you don't eat it six times a week. I also like to see the meal throughout the cooking process, from start to finish, to feel like I have some basic skills if nothing else...
Cheethos and mountain dew were banned in the UK, they had to change the ingredients, but now back on the UK shelves, however surely not the same as the American counterparts
Yeah, I want the animal to have a healthy and pleasant life before it's killed. I believe the chlorine washed chicken carcasses allows for diseased live chickens not to be treated for pressure sores and infections while they are alive.
Because fruit loops looks like hell in the UK doesn't mean it has to look like hell in the UK - it's just that some marketing genius thought that's what people want. And they might be right. There's always good alternatives: which is the point, why use something bad when you can use something not bad that tastes or looks the same? No reason, that's why. You don't need to use nettles to get green colour. That being said any food if it's brightly coloured is against the natural order and that's probably why they decided to use those colours.
Sweeteners have never been tested as there a food item not a drug. Did or do you know Listerine was originally a floor cleaner? save you searching. Listerine, a mouth rinse composed of a mixture of essential oils, was created in 1879 and was originally formulated as a surgical antiseptic. In spite of its known antimicrobial properties it was thought of as a product in search of a use and promoted as a deterrent for halitosis and as a floor cleaner.
It’s sad that America put profits before health.
"E" numbers are just a system to list addatives in food. For example E300 is vitamin C, E472f is mixed acetic and tartaric acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids, E948 is oxygen, E1510 is ethanol. Many "E numbers" does not mean anything about how safe the food is. It is all about which ones are in it. The US uses the same system with an "U" before the number, albeit uses it way less. U441 for example is "superglycerinated fully hydrogenated rapeseed oil". The "Codex Alimentarius" defining those numbers is an international system maintained by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations and World Health Organization.
The chance of getting any cancer in a persons life is about 1 in 2 (..depending on when you were born and where, but this is typical in a western country) ...a 50% increase in the chances therefore make the chance a 3 in 4 - significantly higher than you suggested! I wouldn't be so dismissive, but you are young and invincible, I guess! Take care 🤔
E numbers aren't inherently bad for you, and are intended to help deal with allergies. Since food can be traded across borders without repackaging in the EU, and Europe speaks a lot of languages, they came up with a coding system so people with allergies can spot problematic ingredients. If I see E150 on a bottle of sauce in Poland, I know it contains a particular caramel colourant I might be allergic to even though I don't speak any Polish.
They also made radium toothpaste and face cream
Huh, notice how people in the US often use the term "bro" in their everyday lingo? I believe it may stem from the consumption of all these b(r)ovines, bromines, and bromates.
You have really missed the point on a lot of this information. Good animal husbandry is essential. Yes we kill animals to eat but that does not mean that's its ever acceptable to keep animals poorly or keep them in insanitory conditions. Furthermore despite all these chemicals US food prices are a lot more expensive than Uk/ Europe. ( see Evans price comparisons UK/ US ).
If you look at the comments on Evan's video, you will see this:
EU regulation criteria = "Is it safe?"
FDA regulation criteria = "Is it dangerous?"
That says it all.
EU regulation is more cautious and every new ingredient must be tested for safety.
FDA regulation is if we don't hear that people are actually suffering and/or dying, then it must be safe.
While one food might give you a small increased risk of cancer, the accumulation of having an increased risk in most foods increases YOUR risk dramatically.
The first one, with the milk, he said that the eu also didn’t recognize any side affects on humans, the side affects they did view as a problem was the ones on the cows, deeming it to be animal cruelty.
The same with the eggs and the chlorine. Washing the eggs means that farmers will put 0 energy to dealing with the salmonella problem. If they did actually work on the health of the actual hens then eventually they might eradicate the issue. With a quick fix only to the eggs and not the hens the original problem still remains.
the problem is...the amount of the chemicals/ingredients/flavourings that the US put on their food! if that chemicals does not affect your health it does not mean it will do the same to everybody, in the UK, it is always prevention.
Various foods are more than able to be consumed safely without the addition of chemicals and when things are added for the sake of profits it really makes me feel short changed. Youve editted perfectly good food for the sake of money
My (your) food should be fresh, not editted and deemed 'safe' by organisations that have been known to bend truthes for the sake of profits.
The BFA (British Food Agency) is much more strict than their American counterparts the FDA (Food and Drug Association)
the radium thing, they knew it was radioactive but that human skin stops the particles, so radium is safe....outside of the body. The problem was the laides painting the hands would lick the tiny paintbrushes to make the tips go really fine, and then would be ingesting radium into their bodies where it WAS harmful.
Yesterday evening I reheated some cooked chicken from the fridge in the microwave, but when I took the chicken thighs out to have with my dinner I smelt a bad smell. Apparently, you are suppose to wrap the chicken thighs in paper towels, to draw out the fat and reduce the bad odour, which is rancid. It just made me think, if the fats smell like that, when reheated, what the heck are farmers feeding their chickens? Its like human beings, our B.O. is affected by what we eat, including, foods that contain sulphur, like broccoli, cauliflower, and cabbage etc. Reminding me of that famous olde adage; You are what you eat. 😂
Here is the thing. When you say you don't know what to think or say, most people would instinctively know exactly what you mean.
Chlorinated chicken. The impression is it's bad. For you.
E-Numbers.
E numbers are codes for substances that are used as food additives. Some are natural, some artificial. Each of these additives is given its own unique number, making it easier for manufacturers to list which ones are included in foods.
That's anything added to food and drink whether it is good or bad(?) for you.
This can include:
Vitamins. Eg, Vit C, B vitamins etc.
Also any essential elements, Fe, C, Ca, K, Na, etc.
Natural colours like green from chlorophyll.
Natural fruit flavours.
I would rather have my food blander than have chemicals poured into them. Even if there's no stats on the chemicals. I just like to consume food as natural as possible.
Then I believe in animal welfare. Though I love my meat, that doesn't say I don't want the animal to have a good life. In fact, I think the better life the animal has, the better the meat. I will only buy free range eggs too and I know that many Brits are like me and won't buy battery hatched eggs. Animal welfare is very important.
13:50 But the regulations affect their businesses too. The locals can't use these things to increase production either.
26:30 In the US if you get sick, it's you and your family who's going to pay for the treatment or go bankrupt, the government won't lose money if you get sick, so your health doesn't matter. If you want to risk your health so your bread is whiter, go for it. In other countries it's the national health system that pays, so it's in the economic interest of the country that you remain healthy.
About the low probabilities That you have .1% chance seems low, until it happens. If you get cancer, it won't matter that the chance was low, you're 100% sick. And as a consumer, how much freedom of choice do you have when all the products available at your price range have the same additives?
A quick check says there's 50 Islamic countries in the world out of 195 current countries. If he's saying 160 have banned something, then that has got to include some Islamic countries. However, I don't think they tend to market pork to Islamic countries in the first place. I don't think that takes away from his main point though. Who wants to eat pork from pigs that were paralysed by the stuff they were pumping into them. As for the "it's also in" comments - most of these things are created from fossil fuels, the same way we create plastics and I don't want to eat stuff they also use to make fire retardant materials. The US does seem to come at it from you can probably get away with X, whereas the EU says we won't take the chance of X. I'd rather the EU than the US. We can trust our food more.
This is the most denial I've seen yet. Why would you think anything used in yoga mats would be OK in food? Or why would they use edible items in yoga mats? Why would you want chemicals to make your bread look whiter, what's wrong with the colour it should be? The problem is that the FDA gets nearly half its funding from the food companies it regulates, so you can see why they maybe lenient. On the drug side of the FDA however, 65% of the funding comes from the drug companies they are regulating and shockingly, elsewhere is even worse, including the UK. 86% of the funding for our MHRA comes from the industry, 89% in Europe and 96% in Australia, facts that even doctors here didn't know until it was published by the British Medical Journal last year. Now what was I saying about leniency? 🤔
"Why not just add sugar? " lol, apparently that's the answer to anything there in the US. Sugar sugar sugar mmmmm. That's why each American consumes daily 126.4 grams of sugar, compared to 36.7 grams in Europe. (and the recommended daily intake being 11 grams per day). Nice.
In the EU companies need to prove that their food is safe for consumption, while in the US you must prove that this food harms people.
OK, so I do not eat stuff from America, partly because of the additives but also because I cannot stand the taste, everything appears to be full of sugar - you even put it into meat and bread. My actual thoughts on this subject are unprintable and extremely impolite.
20:39 that face when you realise that US uses stuff for chemical warfare in your food
Why not just add sugar? Because we would become equally "generously proportioned" as Americans....
The figures would be even more "squ'd" if you took out the non pork eating Countries. Instead of the quoted 75% of Countries, it would be closer to 90% I expect?
I’d rather have the taste to the colours - so I’m happy the colours are bad, and other bad ingredients! For example to most of the world, American bread is just ultra white cake
The 160 countries banned the individual drug specifically, not pork in general. Overall, rather than just saying you can't eat any of these foods and drinks, the point is that the companies are making far safer versions for the rest of the world to consume and just poisoning US folk because nobody stops them. There are plenty of sugary cereals to enjoy in the UK, the colours may not 'pop' but they taste good and don't result in serious hyperactivity and hives. We enjoy plenty of milk, bread, fizzy drinks, meat and so on but without mutating animals and risking nerve damage (among other things). The idea is not to make you panic about these things but to bear in mind that the FDA is happy to let dangerous and toxic stuff be consumed purely because of legal bribary. (Also, its great for the US medical industry - if the food makes you unwell, you have to pay up to get treatment! Meanwhile, in other countries, where the government plays a big role in healthcare, it costs them money if people are effectively poisoned and thus its in their interest to keep people healthy by keeping the food safe.)
The analogy with the government intervention in the commercial products is kind of strange.
You talk of kids cannot go to the end of the street and such. But in the US kids can't even go out of the house (as in the school) without a "reasonable possibility" of death. In the mean while, in Europe.
Note also the EFSA writing is not about possibilities. It is about Reasonable possibilities. Meaning that one uses ones common sense instead of using some arbitrary decided (FDA) probability limit.
All of this is why, as in your earlier comment, unless ones has a master degree in nutrition, you (and all common US citizens) have to just take your chances when you buy something.
Germany s formerly really strict product n food safety and animal welfare regulations unfortunately were watered down and decreased a lot ever since we joined the EU.....They lowered German safety laws to the LOWER safety demands of other European countries in many cases because everything was supposed to be unified....food was MUCH safer, sonsiderably LESS chemicals, additives, less animal cruelty n stuff BEFORE we joined the EU.
Germany is a founding member of the EU.
please remember that we still have a ton of safety measures and animal welfare also is still a big thing here
Seems odd if true 🤔
Germany didn't join the EU, they created the EU.
Europe is great. In France they give homeless people tarpaulin and mattresses.
And in spain they have power cables hanging in the street 😍🇪🇺
Vegan bacon. Spot on, Connor.
" Natural Citrus Flavouring with other natural flavourings , Plant extracts ( Nettle Spinage ) " Nettle and spinage are NOT the flavourings , they just use some Extracts from them. Can't this guy read or was is for sad comedy effect.
Connor, as an Englishman, my advice to you for Health, Wealth and Happiness etc............is....................................Move to Canada! If they'll accept you?
Guzzling on a well known delicious American potato snack a few decades back in the USA (much tastier than the UK version and even ultra low fat, wow!), I happened to glance at the ingredients list and along with the usual huge American list of all sorts of odd stuff in tiny letters, there was a warning the product contained olestra which 'may promote anal leakage'.
Indeed it did. Though in my experience 'digestive tract distress' might have been a fairer description. Always banned in the EU and UK, Wiki says the stuff isn't used much in the USA anymore but isn't banned.
You are not suppose to have to worry about all these things that's why we have food regulations so that when you eat something you expect it to be fine and if you don't like the taste you move on.
Fruit Loops are not flavoured with spinach, they are coloured with it!!
The thing is, we WANT the government to keep this stuff out of our food so we don't have to worry about what we are buying. This is not being 'mommied'. This what we voted for. Most of us don't want to eat meat from animals that have suffered. Mainland Europeans tend to feel even more strongly than the UK about this. Why would you feel happy to have unnatural additives in your food just so the food companies make more profit? This seems like quite a cultural difference between the USA and the EU
It's only the things they addicted you to as a child that you are irrate about. Otherwise you wouldn't know the difference
Connor is very humble and sense to queston himself for asking or saying things without being bragging but rather concerned
like "can i say that", "am i a psycho now" .
I think you're perfect unsure, kind and i undertsand all these doubts or thoughts you have and why they pop-up, a decent good guy.
You know salt contains cyanide?! There's three sorts and the only one NOT contain cyanide (E535, E536) is the mountain salt.
That was a recent wtf-opener i had but as Connor says it probly not so much it killing us, but just the knowledge scares me
Gotta watch out for those e-numbers, e621 is particularly insidious.
The nettles & spinach (also beetroot is a common one) aren't there as flavourings, they're natural colouring agents. Natural colours just aren't as intensive as the artificial ones which is a good tip if you're going for gelato, the good stuff will look a lot duller and less appealing since it's using real fruits & no artificial dyes.
Also sugar in bread, there was a judgement in Ireland relatively recently that Subway subs can't legally be called bread; due to the high sugar content, it's cake.
Your point about not caring if it is used in something completely else is good. That says nothing in todays world. If it is proven to be bad in some studies though, that is something else. Then it might be good to read up on it and see if it might actually be bad.
The reason chlorine washed chicken is banned is that your farming methods are atrocious therefore us in the UK don't want it.Our farming practices far outweigh yours, hence we don't need to refrigerate our eggs as they are produced in better conditions.
Ref. Eggs, Washed. Which gets rid of natural protection from bacteria, so have to be stored in a refrigerator. Look at the number of Salmonella cases in the USA.
The reason the US does not have Haggis is because the US butcher meat in a filthy way, which let's nasty stuff getting in the organs. In the UK the butchering is much more regulated, I love Haggis ❤
Your comment about keeping away from an adults eating habits that's why some of these foods are not actually banned due solely to health concerns but also for the animals "well being", I mean we are going to kill them but until that no need to hurt them. Much of these bans have to do with other EU regulations on how you are allowed to raise animals, less pork per pig means the sale price of pigs raised by EU regulations would be higher than those raised by US regulations leading to the EU farmers suffering. This is also one of the reasons the EU has been accused of using regulations to effect trade between the EU and US since pork raised by EU regulations in the US would cost more as it would have to be transported from the US to the EU favouring EU raised pork as opposed to imports. This applies to more than just the US. As the EU Parliament recently voted to implement regulations that would restrict beef imports depending deforestation something that would impact Australian beef imports to the EU. To connect this to my original comment as this has become a near essay. These regulations are not to stop an adult from eating a certain food rather it is to stop deforestation, and promote EU beef.
I get where you're coming from with regards increased risk percentage - years back we found out my wife was pregnant at the point where she had had x-rays, and we were told there were 'risks' of the baby being adversely affected and that we might want to consider whether to terminate, so I asked 'how much risk exactly?'.....about 1%, at which point we said 'why are we even having this conversation, it's hardly 50/50'!!! Yeah different topic altogether but sometimes as you say it's not even worth stressing over, on the other hand sometimes it is.....
FDA, hmm sorta like the FAA, eh Boeing?