Amazing. The only one that filed a missing person report was from the son the mother cut ties with. Her own organization she created didn't even file a missing person report!
That's why Madeline died cuz she ran into the wrong one and wrote an article about the wrong one and he wanted revenge and he got it and he killed her and her family and her son and her granddaughter they had to pay the price for Marylan
I've met people like her. The best interaction with them is saying goodbye. The room changes when they walk in, it empties. Completely Insufferable presence.
Even if they thought she had run off with the organisation's money should they not look into that as theft/fraud of some kind. With David being charged for taking money it seems like they should apply the same logic here but because they didn't like her it was suddenly an internal matter.
She was a cantankerous woman who, regardless of whether she abolished prayer in schools or raised millions for kids charities, was simply unlikable. She was rude, ignorant and wanted to get attention. She disowned her own child, simply because he had different opinions than her.
she was stupid she pissed off someone as Godless and as ruthless as herself, the charity payout was probably from the sun she disowned after she found out he had done that! would be my personal speculation! I'm sure his revenge included her watching him kill her son and granddaughter and cut them up Infront of her then it was her turn, and today as she burns, she hears the screams of her son and granddaughter cursing her in their eternal torment as they burn forever! God won't be mocked! what people dont understand it accountability and the consequences of their choices, 40 years ago i had a chance to ask a young woman out sadly i didnt and to this day i ask myself if i had would she still be alive today! every time a woman walks into a bar/night club alone she's auto on the radar of every predator there, well that night she went to a bar a guy hit on her and she went all karen on him, after she left the man made a comment that people like her should be taught a lesson or whatever else, i never did get what was really said, but there was a predator there that night and he went after her, apparently she knew she was too drunk to drive and started walking the predator grabbed her dragged her in between 3 corn silos, in a processing plant there he raped and murdered her the repeated the rape, and security cams caught in all on video, now he was arrested the next day but thanks to a judge who didnt want to deal with a murder case at the time gave the murder low bail, and as far as i can't tell the case fell through the cracks as if it never happen, today if that man still live he's most likely a grandpa and no one realizes he's a ruthless killer, being ignorant like madalyn there's always someone more ruthless then them and they have no desire for media or anyone else knowing who they are,
Exactly. You can be an atheist and not be a bitter, spiteful person. Some if the nicest and well-respected people I know are NOT religious or non-believers. So.... there you go.
The problem with Madalyn is not that she didn't taking shit, the problem is that personality trait was fuelled by anger and hate. I have family with the same traits as her but they know when to be assertive and when to pull back, they could adapt to different situations, personalities and view points without any issues. When O'Hair left her home everyday, she was almost always stuck in first gear.
I watched a documentary about her disappearance years ago. Members of her own organization were interviewed and said that she was an extremely arrogant person and a few other things.
well she didnt realize that every idol word she spoke brought Gods wrath down on her, she publicly denied Christ, and as she did Christ said to the father she's not mine she's a child of the devil Mathew 10:33 and now she burns and she hears the screams of her son and granddaughter cursing her in the flames of their torment as they also burn! madalyn idolized someone as a child that hated God and she kept that hatred throughout her life, she used it to build a rep and a piggy bank! interestingly madalyn didnt realize she pissed off a man as ruthless and Godless as herself and im sure she got to watch as he dismembered her son and granddaughter, then he cut her up like a turkey
And you know what is crazy. She wrote books, and articles. Her works showed how smart this woman actually was. If she didn't have all the anger and hate, she could have been an awesome advocate for not just Athiesm but other causes as well.
The desperation of those who dislike that their religious beliefs are dumb and harmful, always take extra effort to pretend to remember things about people they never met. A woman was kidnapped and murdered and who was the one of the only people fighting against the religious takeover by christian lunatics, of our nation… but the majority of the comments was she was mean and arrogant. Lol this comments section is full of pathetic pieces of shit pretending to be human beings.
@@slaphead8835 🌈Peter Addenbrooke Thomas (June 28, 1924 - April 30, 2016) was an American announcer and narrator of television programs with a career spanning more than 70 years, including shows such as Nova and Forensic Files. FYI He died at the age of 91, which is not “well into his 90s.”✅
@@theoryofpersonality1420 yeah I know who they are. But the grand daughter was entirely innocent though. Wrong place wrong time wrong family to be connected to I guess
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. The word never lies. You sow corruption u reap corruption...Tyfs God bless you
I remember when I was a child I found what looked like to be a humerus in the bushes bordering my back yard and the field behind my house. My mom freaked out but said it was a cow bone. There were no cattle anywhere. So, there's that...
I found a plastic bag with a knife, glasses and clothes on my land, that used to be abandoned and about a quarter mile from Israel Keyes' property. I understand how you feel.
@@nickkaley33 On Poplar street, in Constable, NY, where he bought a house as an adult. It is now abandoned since a couple years and the house is barely standing up now. Please tell me more about his upbringing.
I dont really understand why she needed an athiest community but the more I think about it, at the time she probably needed some backing to stand up to the idiots who thought forcing prayer in public schools was a good idea.
Strange how every so often ONE of these intrigues truly Hits Harder than most . Those small inuendoes & inflections in the .narration , a pause & the listenera stomach tenses , breath held .....fascinating ..
The son became a Christian to spite his mother as much as possible, and not because of sincere faith. She raised him, don't forget, she set him an example of how to treat people.
You are spot on. I’m pretty atheist myself and know many very kind atheists. She was just a horrible human. Makes me want to know what her upbringing was like.
I'm Catholic and my husband is atheist and we get along just fine! In this case I see a very angry women that just had to talk a lot of crap and she unfortunately paid the price. People need to learn how to get along and don't talk about other people! Just because one person wants to believe and another one doesn't, does not mean we can't get along with each other!!! We need to learn to accept each other no matter our differences!!!
no offence but being part of an occult being a vatican puppet yes you and your hubby would get along because neither of you know the real Christ, just keep these thought in mind every time a priest claims the power to forgive sin he's denying Calvary took place, and those believing that priest and not the scriptures walk in condemnation, 2 every time you call you pedophile pope Holy Father a Title belonging to God the father only its Blasphemy in Isaiah 42:8 God says he will share his throne with no man or graven idol 3 there is no virgin mary in Biblical fact mary had 6 more children after Christ and all of them were human and faced the same judgement you and I do today! an atheist and an actual believer would never get along you have to understand each walk in the real Christ is alone, Christ separates us from those who dont belong to him, here's the reality of the vatican, there was once an old man a dedicated vatican puppet all his life up until 78 when he was introduced to the real Christ, this old man had the lung capacity of a walnut because of smoking, he was attached to an oxygen tank! we talked and he asked the real Christ to save him his repentance came from the heart not lip service, and that breath of faith he asked Christ to heal him, the next morning he had a MRI scheduled, he said he got up with the difference of not being short of breath, he then went to the hospital, only this time it was different his mind was about to be blown away the reality he knew ripped away like a wasps nest, he was in the tank he could hear the tecs talking, his first thought was ill be going from the hospital to the funeral home to make final arrangements, but this time they didnt let him leave, they took him into an office where doctors were waiting, he said they demanded to know what home concoctions he was working with or hidden government experiments he was taking to, the old man said none then asked why, he left that office his mind completely blown unable to grasp what had taken place one MRI showed an old man who's lungs gave him maybe days to live the second MRI showed a 78 year old man with lungs as clear and as healthy as a new born's, and when he went into the synagogue that he had grew up in he started to testify of the real Gods mercy on him, and the priest ordered the deacons to throw him out, why it was because they couldn't claim Gods glory for themselves or one of their mindless idols, now I know there are many children trapped in the occults, but if there's a chance for either of you I suggest you find a Bible that hasn't been rewritten to fit occult or vatican doctrine and read it and your eyes might just be open, dont delay our perverse society has already attacked bible apps ripped away scriptures that offend the wicked giving that Bible app the spiritual value of a comic book, if you want to walk in Gods kingdom you have one chance and it takes more than a prayer of oh I'm sorry please forgive me, all you have to do is ask, but the price of turning away from all that you love and value seems high, but consider those thing won't keep you out of the flams!
My brother is an Atheist, my SIL was raised Catholic but by the time they got married, she'd become disenchanted with the Church. Honestly, I don't know where she stands on the subject now. I do know that my brother is still an Atheist. Oddly, we have a Mormon, Baptist, lapsed Catholic and two (maybe 3) Wiccans amongst all of us siblings. It works for us. And we have zero problems with each other's religions, or lack thereof. I send my brother and SIL Season's Greetings cards that are not specific to any holiday. The Wiccans get greeting cards based on the seasons and the specific holidays to that religion. We all actually have no problems respecting each other, and accepting that each of our siblings believe differently. Mom and Dad would be really proud. ❤😉👍💖🫂
While I am glad she was so open on the fact she was an atheist and no one who is shouldn’t be, O’Hare wasn’t a good person. She was too obnoxious and mean. However it doesn’t mean she deserved to die. And it’s crazy to me that the son she abandoned after he became Christian was actually the one who reported her missing. Shows no one in the atheist community she ran gave a fuck about her.
True,I think her Big mistake was vilifying the murderer in print when he stole the $50,000,early on.Unfortunately some individuals like her who need to be outspoken in their line of work forget to be pragmatic in a different situation.The murderer returned the money ($50,000)and it was a vengeful and fatal decision to publicly humiliate him.
I'm wondering why Waters felt the need to turn the $600K into gold coins. A transaction that large just leaves another addition to the paper trail. If all went well with the murders and cover up the guy would have to then sell the gold coins to turn it back into currency to be spent.....creating another link in the paper trail. He should have wrapped the $600K in cash in heat sealed plastic and metal water proof ammo boxes and buried it someplace. So dumb to convert $600K in cash to gold then put it in a $50 a month storage locker.
Converting 600k into gold was the only smart thing that guy did, in today’s currency, it would be worth more than 3 million dollars… very stupid idea to send 3 of his knucklehead criminal buddies over to that same storage facility to look for something else, and not realize that they were going to get nosey and look around for some other valuables that he may have… OH LOOK, I found some extremely heavy suitcases, l wonder what ever could be inside of them??? Needless to say, he never saw those 3 again.
@@suprememagnetic4850 He said "religion". You assumed bible. You assumed Christ. The truth is some of the most hateful people I've ever met were highly religious. Just look through this comment section. You'll see Christians celebrating the murder of this family and fantasizing about them being tortured for eternity in hell. Do you not see the evil in that? Do you not see how being mixed up in that can cause depression? It's mentally unhealthy to rejoice in the suffering of others. Sometimes people who claim to follow Christ act the least like him.
This must have been filmed in the late 90s or 2000 or so. Just looking at the small Austin skyline makes me yearn for the past. I'm a native Austinite and the place looks as big as Chicago now.
Yes I've heard that Californians invaded what was once a nice and not so big town of Austin and worse they have brought their California politics with them.
I'm going to say this from experience, many atheists are And for some reason it's only Christianity they condemn, not Islam, Shintoism, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism
@nightlydrugs6927 truth is not "smear", it's just truth about her abuse of her own children! Smear is what we call LIES, and he didn't lie, he just exposed her.
@@nightlydrugs6927He didn't run her into the ground. He just told of the lies and extortion that his mother did and showed how she used her kids to do that.
Yes, Season 4. "Esophoros." Among the changes they made was to make the counterpart to only have Madalyn killed and the Robin character surviving and being complicit in what happened (and Madalyn herself staging the kidnapping originally to get attention until things got out of hand). It was a far less compelling telling than the real story.
Freedom Of Religion - Separation Of Church And State - Protect The First Ammendment - The Second Ammendment Does Not Protect The Right Of Murder!!!!!!!
@Julia Lückemeyer To be honest I think it’s the exact opposite. The people who are most outspoken about wanting to bring school prayer back are quiet when it comes to doing something about school shootings. Like...I wish they would be as fervent about getting AR-15s off the streets as they are about making kids pray in school.
you know the rest of the modern world think American schools are borderline Christian cults yeah? you force your children to pledge allegiance to a flag every single morning. only dictatorship countries do that lol. y'all got bigger problems.
I find Madalyn’s psychology so interesting. Why was she so angry and unpleasant? Was she born that way or did something warp her? It seems like she got no joy out of life. I wish I knew what made her tick.
Yeah, she is a special case. And honestly I think her religious belief was only the tip of the iceberg. I have met many agnostic and atheist viewers, and they are still respectful people who are not so mean! She was definitely an interesting woman and I too wish I could understand why she was so bitter and angry!
@Richard Homan There is a joke here, but I will leave it be lol 🤣 Was your mom the kind to smack you in the back seat from the front seat of the car when you were little? (Lol) My mother had a wingspan of a pro NBA player.
@Richard Homan It happens a lot. Religion can be a cancer when radicalized. I’m sorry you had that for a mom. Mine was wonderful, kind, loving and I miss her terribly. We went to church but more for the social part. You deserved a better mom.
About the money, what happened was, David and his girlfriend stored the coins in a storage locker that only had a key lock and a short time after the murders, a group of thieves burglarized the locker and once they saw the coins, they took it, got help from friends to sell it for cash, and those thieves and their friends then took a weekend trip to Vegas. They then went on a spending spree with the rest of the cash and only one coin was recovered in the end because one of the thieves aunts received the coin as a pendant gift and around the summer of 1999, she turned that coin into the FBI after they made a public appeal. Once she turned in the coin, that's when the feds finally found out about the burglary and the subsequent spending spree, lol 🤣😆
She was so universally hated that it took years for anyone to lift a finger to try and solve this case. The son and grandson didn’t deserve that. Cautionary tale about a lot of things here. Just such a waste. And as brilliant as Murray O’Hair was if she’d only used all that to benefit mankind instead of herself imagine what she could’ve done.
Some of these investigative reporters have better instincts for detective work than police detectives doing this as their career. Saying John McCormick was “playing detective” isn’t true. He was doing his job. And private detective work seems to be part of that job. In this case, absolutely.
She sued the American government for mixing religion with Apollo 8 1968 on Christmas Day that the 3 men were praying because they thought they were going to die but they made it home. What was the point of this woman doing that. In today's society she would fit right in with all these offended Karen's and Trans.
Nobody ever tried to ban your ability to pray as a student. They banned teachers from forcing students to pray. Surely you know it would be wrong to force people to pray, right? That's not even real prayer. Besides, Jesus himself was against public prayer.
What a collection of low lifes. One of the best episodes. Back in the 1970s we aired a weekly taped show she produced at the radio station I worked at. I had no idea this is what became of them.
Kick God out of your life and he will leave. Shows how dysfunctional things are even after the separation of church and state. Perhaps the problem is people and not God. Her belief system certainly didn’t save her.
I cringe at all the people who assume Christians are celebrating because they're not surprised that this happened to Mary and her family. Ironically it was her estranged Christian son who pressed the police to look for his mother...even after he became her enemy....that seems like love to me. Her atheist crowd didn't report her even though they suspected something was wrong. It was atheists that killed her family, cut off her son's head, and stole from the funds of her charity. The evidence shows the atheists were the ones with no love in this case. Lol 😅
💯🇺🇸The ultimate Good American MMO fought as a brave woman in the 1950s All the way to the Supreme Court to protect American society from the evil influence of religion. We need many more people like her even if not quite as rough. A great American that was totally smooth, suave and lots of fun explaining the foolishness of religion was Christopher Hitchens. Watch how he informs the audience with dignity and respect as he trashes the radical religious fools who dare challenge him. 😻👍
@@divinewon73 ... most of the people I've gotten to know well enough thru life that pray every day n head off to church every single week of their lives are 'or' were the biggest lairs, cheaters, n thieves ! I myself havent been inside a church unless its for someones marriage n some others I've also known wouldnt even do that if it wasnt for relations or that deepened feeling that its ... 'the right thing to do'. Whomever reads this ... jog the memory banks n give thought to that 'right thing'.
@divinewon73 and you're a perfect example of someone who clearly doesn't respect others' beliefs. I don't agree with atheist beliefs, but I don't go around mocking them and calling them fools...real classy.
Just look at the expression (of darkness) in her eyes, her total lack of good personal relationships, her bad manners, etc. You don't have to look further.
@@DavidN16792 but humans CAN change their behavior...they don't need belief in a god to do so...I'm living proof...I used to be very mean and would steal...but I decided that was not the best way to behave...people like you better if you are an honest kind person...and they will help you if they know that you are a decent person...didn't take a god or bible to learn that...
I'm glad she did what she did. I don't care that she was a grouch. I care that she made it possible for kids to go to school without being forced into Christian prayer. Every atheist, jew, muslim, sikh and other non-christian American child has her to thank. I'm quite satisfied that she wasn't brainwashed by bible thumpers like her eldest son.
Jesus is so real ✝️. The fact that people would waste their time to fight against a "so called" "non existent" God means they got worse problems then the Believer. I don't know any group of people with any common sense that would run to the psychiatric ward to argue with mentally ill patients about their delusions. The very fact that they do what they do shows very plainly this is a war between Good and Evil. A war between the Power of God and the powers of darkness or else these people would just laugh and go about their way but they take their time to fight for their militant atheist religion because they are on a mission from their master the devil. KEEP THE FAITH CHILDREN OF GOD!
@@4jesus1981 They arent fighting against your non-existant god you idiot, They're fighting against the pointless bs that people had to do to live in society when they didn't believe in the first place. Seperation of Church and State is the best thing to ever happen. People should be free to choose how they want to live their lives, without fighting back, Women wouldn't have the right to vote, People of colour and LGBTQ+ people wouldn't have any rights and the world would be awful.
@@jackedkerouac4414 If you're convinced you know, good for you, but, at the end of the day, none of us really know 100 percent what's waiting, if anything, past death's door.
They did the country a real disservice in this episode by referring to "taking prayer out of schools" - you're allowed to pray in school! You're not allowed to force others to pray, and that's IT. Teachers and students alike can pray, individually, as many times a day as they want. And to whichever gods they want.
She wasn’t responsible for abolishing prayer in public schools. She took the credit for it, but there were other people who had come before her. She just was the biggest mouth and got all the attention when the other people are the ones who initiated it.
I think it is called hypocrisy going around telling people not to force their ideas on other people when you exactly do the same thing, such a narrow minded person she seems to have been, but again no one deserves such a death as these people faced. I'm sorry that the son and grand daughter had to pay the price for this woman's foul personality.
People can still pray in schools, you’re just not allowed to force the entire class to do so. Wasn’t it Jesus himself who said to pray quietly, away from the public eye? She may have been a horrible person, but she was absolutely right about that.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 Christians don’t actually follow the word of Christ. If they did, this country would prosper under Christianity instead of crumbling under the thumb of it.
@@rthelionheart he is your deceiver and only exists in your imagination and the imagination of other religious folks . Atheists , like me, don't believe in supernatural deceivers .
😢😮 she was very well educated but her beliefs and posture only allowed thrives and base individuals to be able to interact with her! This is deep at so many levels I love the Gosple of Jesus Christ don't care who thinks I'm nuts babe I'm whole full of joy love this life love my friends love my family hv peace in this mad world because I know where my life comes from!
I always wonder whether she prayed as she was being frog marched to that isolated spot knowing her death was imminent. I see one had a Merc and the other a Porsche. Looks like a good family business they had there.
Funny how many of these nice , kind (sunday) church - let's compare Sunday clothes - goers , side with thugs and murderers . Sitting around round table , aren't we ?
This woman was hated by who? Christians? True followers of Christ dont hate anyone. The media simply elevated her to a status which was not necessary. How can she be hated for opposing prayer? Isnt that what the rest of the world want? 🙄
You just hit on the basic and irrevocable hypocrisy inherent in the Christian so-called religion: Christians don't hate...except when it's anyone with even slightly different opinions than them...which is anyone who is not Christian.
This was back in the 60’s-80’s. Prayer was institutionalized in schools and O’Hare shook a lot of trees making her mark. It is true that true followers of Christ are not supposed to hate…..however this woman was a special type. Her personality left a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth.
Heck I'm an atheist but I don't think I would have liked this woman at all. For one she reinforced the stereotype that all atheists are cold, unfeeling, and mean. That being said I am bothered by all the Christians who seem to be doing a happy dance about her being murdered.
I never had any reason to hate Madelyn O'Hare, in fact, admired her tenacity. Sure lot of people hated her, because she spoke up loudly, attracted a lot of publicity in her quest to press for more separation between church and state. Research has shown people who curse are often highly intelligent.
I get that. But there is confident and even aggressive. She was straight up hateful. Her personality didn’t speak well for atheists. Most are very kind people.
@@traceeteeter9875 madalyn had a very funny and kind side to her also but had to be aggressively outspoken because no one is going to listen to a wimp and passive person. She also had many death threats which caused her to be edgy. Adored and miss her!
Though I will always support the separation of church and state, the fact that she rebuffed her son when he converted is so heartless. Everyone finds their own way. She didn’t deserve to die though.
I wonder if those atheists who were responsible for banishing prayer from public schools prayed or cried out to God while they were being tortured and murdered.
It is quite remarkable how this woman is characterized as "hostile and difficult" when in reality she was asserting herself and dictating how she wanted to be treated. The minute a woman calls out religious or social institutions out, she is deemed as hostile.
Imagine an atheist who don't believe in religion calling people a theif. Theifing is a moral act and atheist don't believe it comes from religious background
What are you talking about? You don't even know how to spell thief. Believe it or not, we atheists don't like it when people take things from us, just like you wouldn't. What's so hard to understand about that?
but if she had been a kind loving atheist...she wouldn't have had this happen...but don't you imagine she had to a hard bitter person to combat the hard bitter Christians who hated her...
@@Eddie1967-u7r Even If she was kind, and loving atheist, she would still be condemned. Being a good person doesn’t get anybody to heaven, only accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior does. He is the one who paid the penalty for our sins on that cross🙏We serve a GOD of justice and on the day of judgment someone has to pay for the wrong we committed during our lifetime. Muslims have to earn their way. Atheist don’t believe there is life after death. In any other religion, humanity has to work your way to heaven, but Christianity Jesus paid the way. The Bible teaches in Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved Eternity is a long time to take a chance, my friend. We will keep you in prayer. God bless. I pray that you accept Jesus is still opportunity.
@@Robert-lo6uf and life is far too short to risk believing in something that may not exist...then you've wasted your life...worse yet...what if you are wrong??...what if the Hindu gods are actually in charge?...whatcha gonna do if Brahma is the real true God and not your Bible god?
@@Robert-lo6uf and no one needs to mock God....he does a pretty good job of mocking himself...for one...he gave a commandment to the Israelites to never make any image of anything on earth...under the earth or in the heavens...then he turned around and told Moses to make a bronze serpent to put on a pole for the people to look at!...to "heal" the Hebrews from snake bites..why couldn't God just heal them through prayer??...he is supposed to be all powerful...
What a bitter woman she was. Her estranged son made the right decision to embrace Christianity and not an Atheist. He may have been a Atheist once under his mother, but there was no right for her to disown him. And another thing why expose the man she fired just because he avoided jail, that doesn't make any sense to him
😻👍🌈💯All prayers should be abolished. If people would stop wasting their money energy and time on make believe mythology and focus on facts, problems could be avoided or resolved much quicker and everybody would enjoy life so much more. Sad.😂
" No matter how nice your home and your possessions are, if you have chosen personal experience over Biblical Authority, and you are unregenerate, Spiritually blind, and Spiritually dead, you are living outside of the will of God, you are { cut off } from the life of God, you are in fact { an enemy of God } , and, You live in a Hog Pen. " ✔
Prayers in schools outside of the US is unheard of. And we are doing quite ok 👍 It doesn't mean that we are atheists. I means only that we separate religion and state ....
I can tell that Madelyn O’Hair was not a friendly person, she was actually the most hated woman and she was very volatile during her interviews. Madelyn has also made enemies and she disowned her son William because he found faith in Jesus.
@@c2jsi that thought was pulled right out of thin air …public schools are more like penitentiaries, where you have to watch your back for fear of being jumped, or shot, or sexually assaulted, math proficiency in many public schools are less than 30%, and that’s a very generous estimate, and the reading skills of kids about to enter their first year in college??? Horrible, all too many young people today, can’t even sign their name on a document, why? They don’t even know what cursive is, or, how to properly spell it.
I will be honest. There are some things that she did have a point about. The whole prayer thing in public schools was a good point of hers because even if a lot of people do it at the end of the day requiring that is still manipulation. Its the same thing as expecting schools to teach sociology and other things of that particular sort. The systems we have need to be as little of bias in any direction as they can get because thats not their job to push a specific view. Its their job to benefit us as we are.
Madeline was bitter for a number of reasons. She knew her mother did not want her. Her mother tried to commit suicide while she was pregnant with her so she annoying she wasn’t. Why somebody would have told her that the mother tried to commit suicide is beyond me. She has several unsuccessful, romantic relationships. As far as I know, she never actually got married, even though she took on the name of one of her lovers.
Cause he was right there when that lady called. Sounds like they were tortured and killed after that. Who leaves that amount or any money in a storage unit. Take the money and go.
Finally someone who doesnt light up a room.
This tickled me 😂 we need more of these stories
Lol
…and isn’t “loved by everyone”. 😂
😂😂😂😂👏👏👏
Until she leaves it.😂😂😂😉👍
Amazing. The only one that filed a missing person report was from the son the mother cut ties with. Her own organization she created didn't even file a missing person report!
Yeah
Probably goes to show she wasn't called the "most hated", for nothing.
And he was a Christian 🤔
He waited a year to report them missing. He's no prize.
They were estranged. It's not like going a long time without hearing from her was a red flag for him.
Peter Thomas & Robert Stack are the best narrators ever !
Facts...
And Bill Curtis!
And the guy from Frontline.
And Gene Galusha from the New Detectives, for sure
SO IS DION GRAHAM FROM THE FIRST 48. AND SHARON MARTIN FROM SNAPPED.
Whenever I hear this narrator’s voice, I imagine him saying, ominously, “Succinylcholine”.
LOL
"trilobal"
Gas chromatography mass spectrometer
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Literally LOL!
"Really mean person goes missing and no one wants to look for them" is the theme here
Go figure when you are the most hated person in the USA. Reap what you sow...
Yep
That's why Madeline died cuz she ran into the wrong one and wrote an article about the wrong one and he wanted revenge and he got it and he killed her and her family and her son and her granddaughter they had to pay the price for Marylan
@@monicamariamclean2198 who was Marylan ?
“Heavily vilified person” there fixed it for you.
I've met people like her.
The best interaction with them is saying goodbye.
The room changes when they walk in, it empties. Completely Insufferable presence.
"No head, no hands... totally stumped..." oh my😂😂
Badum tssss! 🥁
lol imagine being so hated no one reports you missing
*IF I Died now in my room; No One wouLd Find Me, untiL My rest came due!!!!*
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@@chemeketagestopo3151Same here.
"Well, you got a point. Nobody really seems to care that they're gone, do they?"
So many brainwashed religious sheep. Is why. Madeline was a Pioneer. A Wonderful Genius🎉🎉❤@@osmanyousif7849
Even if they thought she had run off with the organisation's money should they not look into that as theft/fraud of some kind. With David being charged for taking money it seems like they should apply the same logic here but because they didn't like her it was suddenly an internal matter.
San Antonio police are low life cvnts for doing that
That's what I thought.
She was a cantankerous woman who, regardless of whether she abolished prayer in schools or raised millions for kids charities, was simply unlikable. She was rude, ignorant and wanted to get attention. She disowned her own child, simply because he had different opinions than her.
Exactly just despicable
she was stupid she pissed off someone as Godless and as ruthless as herself, the charity payout was probably from the sun she disowned after she found out he had done that! would be my personal speculation! I'm sure his revenge included her watching him kill her son and granddaughter and cut them up Infront of her then it was her turn, and today as she burns, she hears the screams of her son and granddaughter cursing her in their eternal torment as they burn forever! God won't be mocked! what people dont understand it accountability and the consequences of their choices, 40 years ago i had a chance to ask a young woman out sadly i didnt and to this day i ask myself if i had would she still be alive today! every time a woman walks into a bar/night club alone she's auto on the radar of every predator there, well that night she went to a bar a guy hit on her and she went all karen on him, after she left the man made a comment that people like her should be taught a lesson or whatever else, i never did get what was really said, but there was a predator there that night and he went after her, apparently she knew she was too drunk to drive and started walking the predator grabbed her dragged her in between 3 corn silos, in a processing plant there he raped and murdered her the repeated the rape, and security cams caught in all on video, now he was arrested the next day but thanks to a judge who didnt want to deal with a murder case at the time gave the murder low bail, and as far as i can't tell the case fell through the cracks as if it never happen, today if that man still live he's most likely a grandpa and no one realizes he's a ruthless killer, being ignorant like madalyn there's always someone more ruthless then them and they have no desire for media or anyone else knowing who they are,
Your comment makes me wanna puke
@@tooldog5062you really have to sit here and type that out you're just such a loser
Exactly. You can be an atheist and not be a bitter, spiteful person. Some if the nicest and well-respected people I know are NOT religious or non-believers. So.... there you go.
This woman was portrayed as the most hated person, but she was actually WAY ahead of times and brilliant.
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The problem with Madalyn is not that she didn't taking shit, the problem is that personality trait was fuelled by anger and hate. I have family with the same traits as her but they know when to be assertive and when to pull back, they could adapt to different situations, personalities and view points without any issues. When O'Hair left her home everyday, she was almost always stuck in first gear.
I watched a documentary about her disappearance years ago. Members of her own organization were interviewed and said that she was an extremely arrogant person and a few other things.
well she didnt realize that every idol word she spoke brought Gods wrath down on her, she publicly denied Christ, and as she did Christ said to the father she's not mine she's a child of the devil Mathew 10:33 and now she burns and she hears the screams of her son and granddaughter cursing her in the flames of their torment as they also burn! madalyn idolized someone as a child that hated God and she kept that hatred throughout her life, she used it to build a rep and a piggy bank! interestingly madalyn didnt realize she pissed off a man as ruthless and Godless as herself and im sure she got to watch as he dismembered her son and granddaughter, then he cut her up like a turkey
@@tooldog5062 oh yes, he did. MM=33, its a deceiving transvestite Freemason (which means he worships lucy)
And you know what is crazy. She wrote books, and articles. Her works showed how smart this woman actually was. If she didn't have all the anger and hate, she could have been an awesome advocate for not just Athiesm but other causes as well.
The desperation of those who dislike that their religious beliefs are dumb and harmful, always take extra effort to pretend to remember things about people they never met.
A woman was kidnapped and murdered and who was the one of the only people fighting against the religious takeover by christian lunatics, of our nation… but the majority of the comments was she was mean and arrogant.
Lol this comments section is full of pathetic pieces of shit pretending to be human beings.
A missing person's report wasn't filed until a year later... Yikes!
Who in their right mind would want to find her?
@@Holychickendinner😂😂😂 true
"Turn up missing". An oxymoron.
I quote this phrase often as my favorite oxymoron. When I use it, people look at me strangely, simply because they don't get it.
Lol so true..omg
@@prometheusunbound7628 how about "ended up missing"?
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I love watching this series...❤️..the narrator tell story clear...
This is Narrator Peter Thomas and he is my favorite. Although he passed a few years ago. He was the Best.
@@jjlove13only1 he was the greatest and continued narrating well into his 90s.
@@slaphead8835 🌈Peter Addenbrooke Thomas (June 28, 1924 - April 30, 2016) was an American announcer and narrator of television programs with a career spanning more than 70 years, including shows such as Nova and Forensic Files. FYI He died at the age of 91, which is not “well into his 90s.”✅
@@divinewon73 oh well, I took a shot it. 😟
Ik right me 2
I remember this. They didn’t have to kill any of them, but most importantly the grand daughter. What did she do to anyone of them?
I'm assuming they didn't want any witnesses alive. Sad but this is the way these criminals think. So disgusting!
@@christinas.5240 it is.
Do you know who she is? I can't personally say I feel sorry for them.
@@theoryofpersonality1420 yeah I know who they are. But the grand daughter was entirely innocent though. Wrong place wrong time wrong family to be connected to I guess
@@anthonyjenkins2001 she wasn't innocent. None of them were. She disowned the only one who had remorse and speaking against her is what saved him.
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
The word never lies. You sow corruption u reap corruption...Tyfs God bless you
Some people are seriously odd… how is this story sexy?
That's what I said! Lol! Crazy story? Yes. Sexy story? Hell naw!
"Sexy" here does not mean sexually stimulating. It means "attractive, salacious, intriguing." You people are so stupid.
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She meant it's a interesting case not literally sexy.
Lol. I couldn’t believe she said that.
I remember when I was a child I found what looked like to be a humerus in the bushes bordering my back yard and the field behind my house. My mom freaked out but said it was a cow bone. There were no cattle anywhere. So, there's that...
I found a plastic bag with a knife, glasses and clothes on my land, that used to be abandoned and about a quarter mile from Israel Keyes' property. I understand how you feel.
Your mom better lawyer up
@@nathalie_desrosiers In NE Washington area? My mom grew up in the same area as he did. He had a crazy upbringing
@@nickkaley33 On Poplar street, in Constable, NY, where he bought a house as an adult. It is now abandoned since a couple years and the house is barely standing up now. Please tell me more about his upbringing.
Okay I'm an atheist but this woman is beyond despicable. I wouldn't want to be around someone so bitter.
That didnt give them an excuse for murdering her!
I dont really understand why she needed an athiest community but the more I think about it, at the time she probably needed some backing to stand up to the idiots who thought forcing prayer in public schools was a good idea.
@@billwilson5341 You have your private christian schools for forced prayer on children. Leave the kids alone.
@@billwilson5341 so it’s the Christian way to insult others who don’t share the same beliefs? 🤔🤣
@@billwilson5341 Forcing children to hear voices that arent there is hurting them.
Strange how every so often ONE of these intrigues truly Hits Harder than most . Those small inuendoes & inflections in the .narration , a pause & the listenera stomach tenses , breath held .....fascinating ..
They run a Non-profit, but drive a Mercedes Benz lol
And a Porsche. Total low-lifes skimming off the top!
The churches? Yeah.
@@peoplelikefrankeven the atheists are as corrupt as the churches they claim to abhorr.
Typical.
If that makes you mad then don’t look into these televangelists and their lifestyles…
How ironic that it was the one son that became a Christian, that reported them missing and not the atheist organization that she founded.
Not really.
@@Johnfisher12345 Yes, really
The son became a Christian to spite his mother as much as possible, and not because of sincere faith. She raised him, don't forget, she set him an example of how to treat people.
@@Angel-Kitten No, he is a devout Christian, not one of us can tell what Another person's relationship with God is.
@@mgivens8844 It is easy to pretend devout. The vast majority of Christians do this all the time for personal social benefits.
Regardless of everything else, I agree with separation of church and state.
Indeed. Nowadays we need a woman like this.
I'm more inclined to give the most importance to separation of government and state.
@@ATAHUALPA867 So thankful that you are in the minority, my friend.
@@FrankiesFancy Actually, we live in a secular country, whether you like it or not.
@@ValleyoftheRogue most Americans believe in God. Yes Government shouldn’t dictate God but neither is God not to be in their thoughts.
I always thought she was a bitter narcissist contrarian moreso than an atheist . She lived to make enemies .
You said it!!! I agree.
I'd say both, but yes! I was just thinking about what an awful, bitter woman she was. Such a shame.
You are spot on. I’m pretty atheist myself and know many very kind atheists. She was just a horrible human. Makes me want to know what her upbringing was like.
@@traceeteeter9875 I imagine she was very combative .
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I'm Catholic and my husband is atheist and we get along just fine! In this case I see a very angry women that just had to talk a lot of crap and she unfortunately paid the price. People need to learn how to get along and don't talk about other people! Just because one person wants to believe and another one doesn't, does not mean we can't get along with each other!!! We need to learn to accept each other no matter our differences!!!
no offence but being part of an occult being a vatican puppet yes you and your hubby would get along because neither of you know the real Christ, just keep these thought in mind every time a priest claims the power to forgive sin he's denying Calvary took place, and those believing that priest and not the scriptures walk in condemnation, 2 every time you call you pedophile pope Holy Father a Title belonging to God the father only its Blasphemy in Isaiah 42:8 God says he will share his throne with no man or graven idol 3 there is no virgin mary in Biblical fact mary had 6 more children after Christ and all of them were human and faced the same judgement you and I do today! an atheist and an actual believer would never get along you have to understand each walk in the real Christ is alone, Christ separates us from those who dont belong to him, here's the reality of the vatican, there was once an old man a dedicated vatican puppet all his life up until 78 when he was introduced to the real Christ, this old man had the lung capacity of a walnut because of smoking, he was attached to an oxygen tank! we talked and he asked the real Christ to save him his repentance came from the heart not lip service, and that breath of faith he asked Christ to heal him, the next morning he had a MRI scheduled, he said he got up with the difference of not being short of breath, he then went to the hospital, only this time it was different his mind was about to be blown away the reality he knew ripped away like a wasps nest, he was in the tank he could hear the tecs talking, his first thought was ill be going from the hospital to the funeral home to make final arrangements, but this time they didnt let him leave, they took him into an office where doctors were waiting, he said they demanded to know what home concoctions he was working with or hidden government experiments he was taking to, the old man said none then asked why, he left that office his mind completely blown unable to grasp what had taken place one MRI showed an old man who's lungs gave him maybe days to live the second MRI showed a 78 year old man with lungs as clear and as healthy as a new born's, and when he went into the synagogue that he had grew up in he started to testify of the real Gods mercy on him, and the priest ordered the deacons to throw him out, why it was because they couldn't claim Gods glory for themselves or one of their mindless idols, now I know there are many children trapped in the occults, but if there's a chance for either of you I suggest you find a Bible that hasn't been rewritten to fit occult or vatican doctrine and read it and your eyes might just be open, dont delay our perverse society has already attacked bible apps ripped away scriptures that offend the wicked giving that Bible app the spiritual value of a comic book, if you want to walk in Gods kingdom you have one chance and it takes more than a prayer of oh I'm sorry please forgive me, all you have to do is ask, but the price of turning away from all that you love and value seems high, but consider those thing won't keep you out of the flams!
Respecting not accepting 😉
you get along because your just one line charlie. you dont actually follow your bible. just pick out the nice parts you both can agree to live with
@@Spiritdove64Come on, don’t be a dick.
My brother is an Atheist, my SIL was raised Catholic but by the time they got married, she'd become disenchanted with the Church.
Honestly, I don't know where she stands on the subject now. I do know that my brother is still an Atheist.
Oddly, we have a Mormon, Baptist, lapsed Catholic and two (maybe 3) Wiccans amongst all of us siblings. It works for us. And we have zero problems with each other's religions, or lack thereof.
I send my brother and SIL Season's Greetings cards that are not specific to any holiday. The Wiccans get greeting cards based on the seasons and the specific holidays to that religion.
We all actually have no problems respecting each other, and accepting that each of our siblings believe differently.
Mom and Dad would be really proud. ❤😉👍💖🫂
While I am glad she was so open on the fact she was an atheist and no one who is shouldn’t be, O’Hare wasn’t a good person. She was too obnoxious and mean. However it doesn’t mean she deserved to die. And it’s crazy to me that the son she abandoned after he became Christian was actually the one who reported her missing. Shows no one in the atheist community she ran gave a fuck about her.
Oh Believe me ,,,She Deserved Every Bit of It !!
True,I think her Big mistake was vilifying the murderer in print when he stole the $50,000,early on.Unfortunately some individuals like her who need to be outspoken in their line of work forget to be pragmatic in a different situation.The murderer returned the money ($50,000)and it was a vengeful and fatal decision to publicly humiliate him.
I'm wondering why Waters felt the need to turn the $600K into gold coins. A transaction that large just leaves another addition to the paper trail. If all went well with the murders and cover up the guy would have to then sell the gold coins to turn it back into currency to be spent.....creating another link in the paper trail. He should have wrapped the $600K in cash in heat sealed plastic and metal water proof ammo boxes and buried it someplace. So dumb to convert $600K in cash to gold then put it in a $50 a month storage locker.
Probably thought it wasn't going to be traced if it was all gold, and tried to invest.
Gold is a better store of value but still why not at least keep 20% or so cash just to spend
That's why i believe all convicted criminals are stupid
Because gold coins are currency anywhere on Earth and once purchased, are untraceable.
Converting 600k into gold was the only smart thing that guy did, in today’s currency, it would be worth more than 3 million dollars… very stupid idea to send 3 of his knucklehead criminal buddies over to that same storage facility to look for something else, and not realize that they were going to get nosey and look around for some other valuables that he may have… OH LOOK, I found some extremely heavy suitcases, l wonder what ever could be inside of them??? Needless to say, he never saw those 3 again.
I didn’t find any part of this story sexy but it definitely was interesting .
Bahahah so true
Excellent work by journalist. Police lacked enthusiasm to look for three atheist that probably were hated by them .
Leaving religion cured my depression, and in part, madeline Murray ohair helped me on my journey. And i thank her for it
You probably never understood the Bible. Following Christ saved my life, how could you go wrong following Christ?
@@suprememagnetic4850 He said "religion". You assumed bible. You assumed Christ. The truth is some of the most hateful people I've ever met were highly religious. Just look through this comment section. You'll see Christians celebrating the murder of this family and fantasizing about them being tortured for eternity in hell. Do you not see the evil in that? Do you not see how being mixed up in that can cause depression? It's mentally unhealthy to rejoice in the suffering of others. Sometimes people who claim to follow Christ act the least like him.
This must have been filmed in the late 90s or 2000 or so. Just looking at the small Austin skyline makes me yearn for the past. I'm a native Austinite and the place looks as big as Chicago now.
Yeah bro, Austin has grown quite a lot in the last few years. So much so that they got awarded an MLS team.
This episode was filmed and aired around 2002
Yes I've heard that Californians invaded what was once a nice and not so big town of Austin and worse they have brought their California politics with them.
Her disowning her son proved she wasn’t just against church and state, she was against Christianity period
I mean he made a smear film about her lol.
I'm going to say this from experience, many atheists are
And for some reason it's only Christianity they condemn, not Islam, Shintoism, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism
@nightlydrugs6927 truth is not "smear", it's just truth about her abuse of her own children! Smear is what we call LIES, and he didn't lie, he just exposed her.
@@nightlydrugs6927He didn't run her into the ground. He just told of the lies and extortion that his mother did and showed how she used her kids to do that.
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You're assuming the son was being truthful.
I think this inspired an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent. I forgot which episode, but was obviously taken from this case.
Yes, Season 4. "Esophoros." Among the changes they made was to make the counterpart to only have Madalyn killed and the Robin character surviving and being complicit in what happened (and Madalyn herself staging the kidnapping originally to get attention until things got out of hand). It was a far less compelling telling than the real story.
My inglish is not perfect but i understand the narratore is perfect thank you so much GOD Bless everybady scientists and investigater 👏👏🙌🙌
Jackpot for thieves of the gold coins: they were looking for something else and found the coins.
Thank you Mr Waters for your service.
This one is wild. Waters didn't give a, "you know what."
Imagine finding all that gold 😭
Freedom Of Religion - Separation Of Church And State - Protect The First Ammendment - The Second Ammendment Does Not Protect The Right Of Murder!!!!!!!
She would be extremely happy with what’s going on now in school.
@Julia Lückemeyer Haha, logically, why treat parasites if you have cancer!
@Julia Lückemeyer To be honest I think it’s the exact opposite. The people who are most outspoken about wanting to bring school prayer back are quiet when it comes to doing something about school shootings. Like...I wish they would be as fervent about getting AR-15s off the streets as they are about making kids pray in school.
@Tommy L. Day and the Runaways As long as kids are religious, dead or alive doesn't matters to them. Smh.
You mean school shootings 😅
you know the rest of the modern world think American schools are borderline Christian cults yeah? you force your children to pledge allegiance to a flag every single morning. only dictatorship countries do that lol. y'all got bigger problems.
I find Madalyn’s psychology so interesting. Why was she so angry and unpleasant? Was she born that way or did something warp her? It seems like she got no joy out of life. I wish I knew what made her tick.
Satan? lol (Sorry. lol You kind of gift wrapped it. 😋😇)
Yeah, she is a special case. And honestly I think her religious belief was only the tip of the iceberg. I have met many agnostic and atheist viewers, and they are still respectful people who are not so mean! She was definitely an interesting woman and I too wish I could understand why she was so bitter and angry!
I don't know much about her, but she smiled in family photos.... she was not all bad... 🤔
@Richard Homan There is a joke here, but I will leave it be lol 🤣
Was your mom the kind to smack you in the back seat from the front seat of the car when you were little? (Lol) My mother had a wingspan of a pro NBA player.
@Richard Homan It happens a lot. Religion can be a cancer when radicalized. I’m sorry you had that for a mom. Mine was wonderful, kind, loving and I miss her terribly. We went to church but more for the social part. You deserved a better mom.
$600,000 worth of gold in 1995 is well over $3,000,000 now...
... and a penny is worthless
And 600k is still a nice chunk of change.
Did they ever find out who stole the coins from the thieves
Yep that's the only way the detectives knew what happened up n Austin
No they never found the thieves who stole it from David Waters or Gary.
About the money, what happened was, David and his girlfriend stored the coins in a storage locker that only had a key lock and a short time after the murders, a group of thieves burglarized the locker and once they saw the coins, they took it, got help from friends to sell it for cash, and those thieves and their friends then took a weekend trip to Vegas. They then went on a spending spree with the rest of the cash and only one coin was recovered in the end because one of the thieves aunts received the coin as a pendant gift and around the summer of 1999, she turned that coin into the FBI after they made a public appeal. Once she turned in the coin, that's when the feds finally found out about the burglary and the subsequent spending spree, lol 🤣😆
@@honda443Wow! Just, Wow!
Pray for me everyone I lost my faith doubted God I could have been an atheist however I’m not❤❤❤
If you continue to seek knowledge, and seek truth, you will find that many the things you've been told about God are actually lies.
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Yes, I'm dozing off now. Hopefully I'll have a good night of good sleep and dreams. Good night Auntie...
She was so universally hated that it took years for anyone to lift a finger to try and solve this case. The son and grandson didn’t deserve that. Cautionary tale about a lot of things here. Just such a waste. And as brilliant as Murray O’Hair was if she’d only used all that to benefit mankind instead of herself imagine what she could’ve done.
You mean 'son and granddaughter'
Yeah, typos happen.
Some of these investigative reporters have better instincts for detective work than police detectives doing this as their career. Saying John McCormick was “playing detective” isn’t true. He was doing his job. And private detective work seems to be part of that job. In this case, absolutely.
Frankly I'm surprised it took someone that long to kill her as fucked up as that is to say but she must've had so many enemies.
😂 classic statement 👌
Not to speak of semi-educated , frustrated losers , unable to compose one single correct sentence , holed up in their basement . Scribbling ...
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Chances are if someone really is a prick, they get what they deserve.
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Well Madeline you didn’t successfully ban all prayer, or I for one wouldn’t have made it through school! 😅
She sued the American government for mixing religion with Apollo 8 1968 on Christmas Day that the 3 men were praying because they thought they were going to die but they made it home. What was the point of this woman doing that. In today's society she would fit right in with all these offended Karen's and Trans.
Nobody ever tried to ban your ability to pray as a student. They banned teachers from forcing students to pray. Surely you know it would be wrong to force people to pray, right? That's not even real prayer. Besides, Jesus himself was against public prayer.
What a collection of low lifes. One of the best episodes. Back in the 1970s we aired a weekly taped show she produced at the radio station I worked at. I had no idea this is what became of them.
After she was kidnappend I bet she prayed to God once or twice. What a shrew this woman was.
Kick God out of your life and he will leave. Shows how dysfunctional things are even after the separation of church and state. Perhaps the problem is people and not God. Her belief system certainly didn’t save her.
I cringe at seeing all the "Christians" celebrating her suffering and death. Where's all the love?
I cringe at all the people who assume Christians are celebrating because they're not surprised that this happened to Mary and her family. Ironically it was her estranged Christian son who pressed the police to look for his mother...even after he became her enemy....that seems like love to me. Her atheist crowd didn't report her even though they suspected something was wrong. It was atheists that killed her family, cut off her son's head, and stole from the funds of her charity. The evidence shows the atheists were the ones with no love in this case. Lol 😅
@@darkwillow57 There is no “love” like Christian “love”. 🙄
"She was the subject of a Playboy Magazine interview." We knew she wasn't the centerfold.
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Oh god! 🤮
I knew people who knew her in Texas. She was not a nice and honorable person.
How do you know Christians are incapable of being decent human beings.
Such a hateful and angry woman smhhhh
Christians are addicted to hate.
“How can somebody that famous go missing with all that money and nobody is looking?”
How annoying do you have to be to have that money and nobody's looking?
It’s a horrible thing to say but I don’t feel sorry for that woman. Just for her son and grand daughter….
Love this show
I love this show 😍😍😍😍
Yep
Me too.🩶
Forensic Files is the best, made better with Peter Thomas as narrator.
So because someone doesn't believe in what you do,they are "evil" and a "devil"...this is laughable..
💯🇺🇸The ultimate Good American MMO fought as a brave woman in the 1950s All the way to the Supreme Court to protect American society from the evil influence of religion. We need many more people like her even if not quite as rough. A great American that was totally smooth, suave and lots of fun explaining the foolishness of religion was Christopher Hitchens. Watch how he informs the audience with dignity and respect as he trashes the radical religious fools who dare challenge him. 😻👍
@@divinewon73 ... most of the people I've gotten to know well enough thru life that pray every day n head off to church every single week of their lives are 'or' were the biggest lairs, cheaters, n thieves ! I myself havent been inside a church unless its for someones marriage n some others I've also known wouldnt even do that if it wasnt for relations or that deepened feeling that its ... 'the right thing to do'.
Whomever reads this ... jog the memory banks n give thought to that 'right thing'.
@divinewon73 and you're a perfect example of someone who clearly doesn't respect others' beliefs. I don't agree with atheist beliefs, but I don't go around mocking them and calling them fools...real classy.
Just look at the expression (of darkness) in her eyes, her total lack of good personal relationships, her bad manners, etc. You don't have to look further.
@@DavidN16792 but humans CAN change their behavior...they don't need belief in a god to do so...I'm living proof...I used to be very mean and would steal...but I decided that was not the best way to behave...people like you better if you are an honest kind person...and they will help you if they know that you are a decent person...didn't take a god or bible to learn that...
She’s so insufferable I do not feel bad for her at all. RIP to her loved ones who were also killed, but I don’t care if she’s peaceful.
When she died, she inmediatly was on HIGHWAY TO HELL !!
I remember my grandma praying she would come to know Jesus. I met her son Bill and he was praying for that as well.
I'm glad she did what she did. I don't care that she was a grouch. I care that she made it possible for kids to go to school without being forced into Christian prayer. Every atheist, jew, muslim, sikh and other non-christian American child has her to thank. I'm quite satisfied that she wasn't brainwashed by bible thumpers like her eldest son.
Jesus is so real ✝️. The fact that people would waste their time to fight against a "so called" "non existent" God means they got worse problems then the Believer. I don't know any group of people with any common sense that would run to the psychiatric ward to argue with mentally ill patients about their delusions. The very fact that they do what they do shows very plainly this is a war between Good and Evil. A war between the Power of God and the powers of darkness or else these people would just laugh and go about their way but they take their time to fight for their militant atheist religion because they are on a mission from their master the devil.
KEEP THE FAITH CHILDREN OF GOD!
@@sirpiddlefartiii served her right. I bet she now knows if she did right or not.
@@4jesus1981 They arent fighting against your non-existant god you idiot, They're fighting against the pointless bs that people had to do to live in society when they didn't believe in the first place. Seperation of Church and State is the best thing to ever happen. People should be free to choose how they want to live their lives, without fighting back, Women wouldn't have the right to vote, People of colour and LGBTQ+ people wouldn't have any rights and the world would be awful.
@@paholamercedesnova6830 -- uh-oh, your evil bloodlust certainly isn't very Christlike! 🤣
O'Hair's problem wasn't that she was an atheist, but instead was that she was a thoroughly unpleasant and obnoxious human being.
I can't stand anyone who's that arrogant over an opinion. None of us know what happens when we die. Period.
@@jackedkerouac4414 If you're convinced you know, good for you, but, at the end of the day, none of us really know 100 percent what's waiting, if anything, past death's door.
That uni-brow at 18:41 is killing me.
They did the country a real disservice in this episode by referring to "taking prayer out of schools" - you're allowed to pray in school! You're not allowed to force others to pray, and that's IT. Teachers and students alike can pray, individually, as many times a day as they want. And to whichever gods they want.
Yes but ya know how religious people aren't happy unless the rest of us are forced to do as they choose!
@@YsalysDayByDayyou’re so wrong and bitter just like madeleine!
@@monicalarkin4616 lmao sure thing hon
She wasn’t responsible for abolishing prayer in public schools. She took the credit for it, but there were other people who had come before her. She just was the biggest mouth and got all the attention when the other people are the ones who initiated it.
I think it is called hypocrisy going around telling people not to force their ideas on other people when you exactly do the same thing, such a narrow minded person she seems to have been, but again no one deserves such a death as these people faced. I'm sorry that the son and grand daughter had to pay the price for this woman's foul personality.
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Your outcome may be the same as hers or worse.
@@WattsUpTez10mm Wrong.
People can still pray in schools, you’re just not allowed to force the entire class to do so. Wasn’t it Jesus himself who said to pray quietly, away from the public eye? She may have been a horrible person, but she was absolutely right about that.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 Christians don’t actually follow the word of Christ. If they did, this country would prosper under Christianity instead of crumbling under the thumb of it.
The way her master called her home... gruesome to say the least.
Her master being?
@@midnightsan9917 God
Her master is a product of your overactive imagination and the only place your master exists is in your imagination .
@@kookamunga2458 That is exactly what a deceiver wants the masses to believe.
@@rthelionheart he is your deceiver and only exists in your imagination and the imagination of other religious folks . Atheists , like me, don't believe in supernatural deceivers .
😢😮 she was very well educated but her beliefs and posture only allowed thrives and base individuals to be able to interact with her! This is deep at so many levels
I love the Gosple of Jesus Christ don't care who thinks I'm nuts babe I'm whole full of joy love this life love my friends love my family hv peace in this mad world because I know where my life comes from!
And that should be thieves 😆 no glasses folks
Well many of us who don't believe in your religion that are perfectly happy and living a good life lol
@YsalysDayByDay exactly my choice that's the beauty we get to choose!
@@Detroitmammaamen to that 🙏🏻
Whew ! Good forensic work ya’ll b detectives and scientists!😅
Not too many people missed her.
People reap what they sow.
What does that mean? So you are passing judgement like a typical hypocritical Christian.
My O’ my does the Austin skyline look so different now.
I always wonder whether she prayed as she was being frog marched to that isolated spot knowing her death was imminent. I see one had a Merc and the other a Porsche. Looks like a good family business they had there.
I wonder if in her last moments she prayed for a better personality. This is poetic
She probably did
Mouthy medeline met her match .... i always say there is always someone badder than the Bad man
Funny how many of these nice , kind (sunday) church - let's compare Sunday clothes - goers , side with thugs and murderers . Sitting around round table , aren't we ?
@@TNT-km2egcriminals can be Christian’s too though it isn’t a disqualifier
This woman was hated by who? Christians? True followers of Christ dont hate anyone. The media simply elevated her to a status which was not necessary. How can she be hated for opposing prayer? Isnt that what the rest of the world want? 🙄
You just hit on the basic and irrevocable hypocrisy inherent in the Christian so-called religion: Christians don't hate...except when it's anyone with even slightly different opinions than them...which is anyone who is not Christian.
This was back in the 60’s-80’s. Prayer was institutionalized in schools and O’Hare shook a lot of trees making her mark.
It is true that true followers of Christ are not supposed to hate…..however this woman was a special type. Her personality left a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth.
Heck I'm an atheist but I don't think I would have liked this woman at all. For one she reinforced the stereotype that all atheists are cold, unfeeling, and mean. That being said I am bothered by all the Christians who seem to be doing a happy dance about her being murdered.
@@bellerain381 I truly support her stance and believe in the separation of church and state, but wish her personality wasn’t so abrasive.
@@darkwillow57 Nope. Where do you see them dance? Not true...
I never had any reason to hate Madelyn O'Hare, in fact, admired her tenacity. Sure lot of people hated her, because she spoke up loudly, attracted a lot of publicity in her quest to press for more separation between church and state.
Research has shown people who curse are often highly intelligent.
I get that. But there is confident and even aggressive. She was straight up hateful. Her personality didn’t speak well for atheists. Most are very kind people.
@@traceeteeter9875 madalyn had a very funny and kind side to her also but had to be aggressively outspoken because no one is going to listen to a wimp and passive person. She also had many death threats which caused her to be edgy. Adored and miss her!
Though I will always support the separation of church and state, the fact that she rebuffed her son when he converted is so heartless. Everyone finds their own way. She didn’t deserve to die though.
She was buried north of uvalde Texas coincidentally .
Madalyn was not a person I would enjoy having tea and crumpets with after church.
I'd like to think that she found and reached out to God in her final hours, and it went to voicemail or was marked "READ"
I wonder if those atheists who were responsible for banishing prayer from public schools prayed or cried out to God while they were being tortured and murdered.
I'd, isn't it?
It is quite remarkable how this woman is characterized as "hostile and difficult" when in reality she was asserting herself and dictating how she wanted to be treated. The minute a woman calls out religious or social institutions out, she is deemed as hostile.
🙄🙄🙄
Nah, she was an asshole for no reason
If she did not believe that God exists, then why did she spend her whole life fighting Him?
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer group of people.
Imagine an atheist who don't believe in religion calling people a theif. Theifing is a moral act and atheist don't believe it comes from religious background
Conundrum?
Perhaps she believed in thievery by legal terms?
What are you talking about? You don't even know how to spell thief. Believe it or not, we atheists don't like it when people take things from us, just like you wouldn't. What's so hard to understand about that?
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
◄ Galatians 6:7 ►
but if she had been a kind loving atheist...she wouldn't have had this happen...but don't you imagine she had to a hard bitter person to combat the hard bitter Christians who hated her...
@@Eddie1967-u7r Even If she was kind, and loving atheist, she would still be condemned. Being a good person doesn’t get anybody to heaven, only accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior does. He is the one who paid the penalty for our sins on that cross🙏We serve a GOD of justice and on the day of judgment someone has to pay for the wrong we committed during our lifetime. Muslims have to earn their way.
Atheist don’t believe there is life after death.
In any other religion, humanity has to work your way to heaven, but Christianity Jesus paid the way.
The Bible teaches in Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved
Eternity is a long time to take a chance, my friend. We will keep you in prayer. God bless. I pray that you accept Jesus is still opportunity.
@@Robert-lo6uf and life is far too short to risk believing in something that may not exist...then you've wasted your life...worse yet...what if you are wrong??...what if the Hindu gods are actually in charge?...whatcha gonna do if Brahma is the real true God and not your Bible god?
@@Robert-lo6uf and no one needs to mock God....he does a pretty good job of mocking himself...for one...he gave a commandment to the Israelites to never make any image of anything on earth...under the earth or in the heavens...then he turned around and told Moses to make a bronze serpent to put on a pole for the people to look at!...to "heal" the Hebrews from snake bites..why couldn't God just heal them through prayer??...he is supposed to be all powerful...
@@Robert-lo6uf why did God give a commandment...then tell Moses to break that commandment?
What a bitter woman she was. Her estranged son made the right decision to embrace Christianity and not an Atheist. He may have been a Atheist once under his mother, but there was no right for her to disown him. And another thing why expose the man she fired just because he avoided jail, that doesn't make any sense to him
She was resentful because he stole money from them.
What a sad, abrasive, prideful human being she was ... in the big picture, it might not end well for her...
what would make a woman so bitter... jeez she sounds awful don't even feel bad about her
She's from the silent generation. Most people's lives were cruddy back then.
“Prayer” is not “abolished” in public schools. Teacher lead prayer is, as it should be.
😻👍🌈💯All prayers should be abolished. If people would stop wasting their money energy and time on make believe mythology and focus on facts, problems could be avoided or resolved much quicker and everybody would enjoy life so much more. Sad.😂
@@divinewon73 ok libtard
@@divinewon73 you make it seems like your life is easy with no problems at all, after all, you don’t pray so you solve your problems very fast 🙄
@@lissam956 -- Yes, everyone who doesn't waste their time praying to a made-up character solves their problems in real life, instead of pretend land 😄
" No matter how nice your home and your possessions are,
if you have chosen personal experience over Biblical
Authority, and you are unregenerate, Spiritually blind, and
Spiritually dead,
you are living outside of the will of God,
you are { cut off } from the life of God,
you are in fact { an enemy of God } , and,
You live in a Hog Pen. " ✔
Prayers in schools outside of the US is unheard of.
And we are doing quite ok 👍
It doesn't mean that we are atheists. I means only that we separate religion and state ....
We pray in our schools, I live in a West African School. Pretty normal
@ oh yes, I forgot Africa …. which has a thing with religion too. From American missionaries, mostly.
I can tell that Madelyn O’Hair was not a friendly person, she was actually the most hated woman and she was very volatile during her interviews. Madelyn has also made enemies and she disowned her son William because he found faith in Jesus.
At least we know she didn't pray before she got got.
2:27 Don't (bleep) with me!
Lol don't worry, lady, no one wants to **** with you.
I have to agree with her position on school.prayer and separation of church and state..
As do I but she did it for herself and no one else . She was a narcissist .
All the crime in the world I could understand why someone might belong to an outside religion. But prayers can help spiritually and naturally.
Would you say schools are better now without prayer? She was an angry and bitter person...sad.
No, its what destroyed the public schools!
Definitely better; and truer to the Constitution.
@@c2jsi that thought was pulled right out of thin air …public schools are more like penitentiaries, where you have to watch your back for fear of being jumped, or shot, or sexually assaulted, math proficiency in many public schools are less than 30%, and that’s a very generous estimate, and the reading skills of kids about to enter their first year in college??? Horrible, all too many young people today, can’t even sign their name on a document, why? They don’t even know what cursive is, or, how to properly spell it.
Yes they are. I used to be forced to pray as a child, I hated it.
I will be honest. There are some things that she did have a point about.
The whole prayer thing in public schools was a good point of hers because even if a lot of people do it at the end of the day requiring that is still manipulation. Its the same thing as expecting schools to teach sociology and other things of that particular sort.
The systems we have need to be as little of bias in any direction as they can get because thats not their job to push a specific view. Its their job to benefit us as we are.
Oldie But Goodie
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Madeline was bitter for a number of reasons.
She knew her mother did not want her. Her mother tried to commit suicide while she was pregnant with her so she annoying she wasn’t. Why somebody would have told her that the mother tried to commit suicide is beyond me.
She has several unsuccessful, romantic relationships. As far as I know, she never actually got married, even though she took on the name of one of her lovers.
Cause he was right there when that lady called. Sounds like they were tortured and killed after that. Who leaves that amount or any money in a storage unit. Take the money and go.
I'm shocked he left the money in a storage unit! That makes it SO easy to steal.