Crazy or Laughable? Why The EU (Still) Thinks It Rules The World | Professor Peo Hansen
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- The EU to this day treats Africa as a colonial backyard that must be 'managed' rather than engaged with on equal footing. At the same time, Josep Borrell begs China to recognise the EU as a fellow great power-something no self-respecting power would ever even dream of. All of this is symptomatic not only for the EU commissions current mental state, but the history of the Union, a history it often downplays or forgets about all together.
My guest today is a Swedish academic; Professor Peo Hansen of Linköping University.
His research focuses among other things on European integration, migration, political economy, and geopolitics. Dr. Hansen is the author of several books, including “Eurafrica: The Untold History of European Integration and Colonialism” of which there is also an academic article and recently he wrote a short magazine article as well.
The book: www.bloomsbury.com/uk/eurafri...
The academic article: www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/...
The short article: blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...
EU has this attitude even to poor Europeans
Correct look what they did to the people of Ireland
@@ObjectiveMedia Greece, Spain, the Eastern Europeans. Even the East Germans
They cannot have an "attitude" for the family dynastic elites, poor Europeans don't exist. If, by pure accident, they mingle for 1 day with regular people, they get PTSD and go in state of shock, like if you would fall in a pit of ugly and smelly rats. They feel the same. But regular people are stupid enough to admire them.
@@jameslawrie3807 And Portugal, every ignorant, always forget that Portugal exists!
@@pedroferrr1412calm down. Portugal is regarded as EU colony. 😂
The European Union's lack of self awareness is laughable.
@sinic. If it's just lack of self awareness, it'd not be so bad. But Europe wants to shape the world based on its lack of self awareness, and through coersive and even violent means, if necessary. That's not acceptable.
It is sad
Because. Europ is not jhovaqq witnesses 😂
@@katong1953 Well, who can't fault them, Europe has shaped the world (dynastic families who never had an honest day of work in the life) for two thousands years. I honestly think they will prefer to die then to get rid of that millennial habit, and will bring down their own population with them. After all, if you cannot steal (rent seeking) from other countries you have no choice but to turn on your own population (in their minds, I don't approve but they 100% think like that)
It’s lack of awareness of its limited future is also laughable, were its implications not so serious.
How can the EU rule the world when it doesn't even rule itself? It isn't a coincidence that the NATO and European Union headquarters are so close to each other.
EU leaders are just adolescents carrying assault rifles and ruling grown up adults. In their childish minds they do not see that they are being played by globalist swiss clubs. As long as they get free merchandise fro the wof.
Their boss is the same.
Very true, it's become more obvious than ever before in the last few years that the EU and NATO are now birds of a feather. And you know who really is the top dog within NATO, right?
The world = the weak nations they can get their hands on
They might start by ceasing to be militarily occupied by a country from another continent.
I tried and failed to sell Nigerian minerals in Europe. What I learnt is that the Europeans don’t want to buy our minerals at quoted world prices. Only European companies could get world prices! Best I could get was so called ‘bush price’! Low price like in Congo. The Europeans can then buy the minerals I’ve sweated for at bush price and go sell for the quoted world price! An arrangement that did not sit particularly well with me. However this is the reason why we seemingly can’t get our act together.Because of our exploitative fair weather friends.
It's painful listening to Europeans warning Africans about Chinese "influence," "debt trap," etc. No, it's not the Chinese seeking to influence. They and, now, the Russians engaging with Africa. And why not? If fact, true independence will come to Africa only through significant disengagement from former colonisers.
yes, ironic hearing about Chinese 'debt traps' in Africa when the French have been practicing monetary colonization in several African nations for half a century.
Coming from Sweden (an EU member for thirty years now) I can assure you that it's also painful to hear these unelected, puffed-up EU leaders without any true accountability, talking as if they were speaking on behalf of all of Europe, and making up heavy moral slogans and programmes from that tribune.
@@louise_rose but eu citizens allow it...
I'm African and i know what you speak of - but i think your populations have been lulled to complacency.
I see very little resistance from European grassroots, except maybe for the farmers, Palestine and in Galloway's elections. The rest have very paltry support. Why didn't Germans demand accountability over nordstream, yet its really killing their economy right now? Why Allow the catfights with chna yet chna is giving their industries an economic safety net?? Why allow their "leaders" to turn them against their rssian brethren??
I'll give 2 African examples..
When Mali, Niger etc ditched their elected puppets the west wanted ECOWAS to use military force against them. Nigeria heads ECOWAS, and Nigerian servicemen made it clear they were NOT going to kill their brothers for the west.
I'm a Kenyan, and i can assure you that we also resisted vehemently against our police force going to subjugate our Haitian brethren for Us interests. Even our supreme court ruled it unconstitutional, yet the president pushed through against our will.
How was he able to do that? A mere weeks before that one lady from imf paid our president a visit and "gave aid" to kenyans (ie funded his fleet of commercial choppers). Now, ppl are busy leaving the police force (which we desperately need). Our president knows he stepped in a puddle of 💩 on that issue and has really back peddled his public rhetoric about the issue.
Consequences... What are they, if any, that the eu leaders will face for these schemes?
@@jjsamuelgunn1136It's funny that of all the taxes collected, 65% goes to London and the U. S . Only 35 % is left for us to run the govt. And thru the backdoor they make sure that people who lack morals and economic intelligence are the ones appointed in to position of power and authority
China and russia is africa's ticket to economical freedom and national self reliability.
Sad how people loose their lifes to make it to europe for a "better life" when their continent is the richest in terms of resourses...."if only they can fully have control"
I’m a middle aged Nigerian. When growing up here, England was the dominant foreign influence, quite benevolent. This perceptively changed to the United States and I’ve often wondered how and why? Thanks to your interesting interview, I now know. England practically sold Nigeria to the United States to compensate for its war debt! Now we have Chevron around our necks instead of Shell, World bank instead of Bank of England, our police and army dress and behave like those in America instead of England.. of course more pornography and money driven ‘democracy’ ..lower standards everywhere.
Do a Niger!
In Australia all the pub talk was China buying rural Australia. Fueled by the media of course. So they had a senate committee to determine which foreign countries had stakes in rural Aussie. Who owned what.
80% of foreign owned rural properties in Australa were owned by...UK. China came in at a whooping 2%. You can image the publicity this report got. Zero, nil, nothing, ziltch. To this day go in a pub and they'll tell you China's buying the farm.
Globalism wants *your* plot.😮
Yes, these globslists are Western-based corporations and their affiliates.
Same propaganda here in the US . Will people ever learn ? The information is easily obtainable .
That is interesting. I have had a delve. About 14 per cent of Ozzie farmland is owned by foreigners. Of that 50 per cent is owned by the UK. That is 27 million hectares. The area of Oz is 7,688 million sqr kilometres and there are 100 hectares to 1 sqr kilometre.
Thanks for that.
People live in ideological cages. Given the size of the cage, they can only entertain specific propaganda. Otherwise, it becomes very uncomfortable in that tiny cage they live in.
How about China buying the aussie government? Bringing fascism into effect during the PLandemic?
Well Africa is sick and tired of Europe. Period!
I think a lot are.
The G-7 Nations wish they could get their Colonial Empires back again.
hahaha!
😂😂😂😂 You are absolutely right.
@danielhutchinson6604 G7 is = 1 US + 6 bitches who themselves became a colony
They have them financially. It's just another kind of colonialism.
They has not discover that its gone yet.
Europe opened a way for Russia to Africa when they decided that they can organize color revolutions in the Ex-USSR and move NATO towards Russian borders.
So russian coups in two countries and use of mercenaries in Africa is not not neocolonialism ? Because it's not Europe or the West ? Yeah...
Однозначно!
And through the "infantile" treatment given to Africans, they kept Chna's roads paved within Africa.
Rssia's association with chna is keeping the African heart open to Rssia, and thats why you saw ppl with rssian flags celebrating when the west African coups happened.
Ask any African on the street if they prefer china/rssia or the west...
Our "leaders" speak differently because of loose IMF wallets (to those individuals, not the citizens of their country)
@@jullietmburu9672When China moved in to Kenya🇰🇪 things became very cheap and affordable. There were rapid and visible developments that the Britain cldnt do,despite being in control for over hundred yrs. The best they'll do for us is to impose a puppet govt that completely goes against the wish of the people.
If u are not dusposed to loot and rape the land, u cant be supported with cash or the war machinery to enter in to the govt..
They hate conscious, intelligent or patriotic people to occupy any position of authority
Russia and China are 1000% times better than EU. EU loot and act all mighty.
It is shocking how little the Europeans are aware of the fact that Africa never really de-colonized and that this process in practical terms only started a decade ago.
During my history finals one of the topics was 'de-colonization'. We were never taught any of this.
Well, slavery was technically abolished in the US in 1865, but de facto blatant oppression of people of colour (and segregation) continued for a century, even in the "enlightened" northern states. When Josephine Baker (already a world famous star) visited New York in the late 1940s, many hotels refused to let her stay, they would only accept the white folks she worked with,
Of course you didn't learn any of this. We were all spoon fed lies about history.
This is much like how many white Americans thought (or some still think) that the oppression of black people generally ended in the 1860s, once overt slavery had come to an end. The survival of much of the system, and not just in the South, was something nobody wanted to talk about.
As a Hungarian I see very similar with us Central and Eastern European countries. We state a different opinion and West European countries are outraged we dare to speak. Let alone have legit interest. When Jean-Claude Juncker was finally asked why these countries are persecuted for a deficit of - 3% and France has repeatedly - 4% he said with a laugh - France is France.
Hungary is the only adult standing in eu
Are you serious. Did he really say that. 😂
OMG.
@@danwelterweight4137 The 6 founders of the EEG/EEC rule the 28 member EU.
Some countries are like big banks : "too big to fail" ... Europe refused to back up Greece during its 2008 crisis...but Europe saved the banks... and keeps its eyes closed on big countries'failures... however if Europe decided to let big nations fall what would happen to the EU ?...would Hungary stand up alone and save the day? Sorry to be sarcastic bro...but it's like the USA's soverain debt being 40 percents of the whole world's debt : if they had to stop investing in their allies'defence for paying the debt...the power vaccuum would ignate a new world war... pick up your favorite poison !
That is how you tell difference. The classic political liberals who came up with the idea of Democracies put their energy into the question of politics and political equality. Socialists, Communists, and yes Nationalists put their energy into the discussion of economic equality. A liberal knows that social Engineering is impossible, and that political equality will take care of the later though with fits and starts. That is why a homeless person in an American big city has a better living standard than a Hungarian noble who lived in the height of the Austria-Hungarian empire 250 years ago.
Being in the EU is a business decision. The Hungarian people believe there is no benefit, they can leave if they find the rules odious. We know that is not going to happen because Hungary benefits massively from being part of the EU.
Just watched a good doc on the opium wars. Europe and the west still have the attitude.
ce serait utile, beaucoup de personnes ignore l'hypocrisie de l'attitude occidentale en Chine.
Professor Peo Hansen has spoken for me. Thank you Pascal for another great conversation.
2023
World: population 8 billion +
EU: population 450 million +/-
🤔maybe it's time to self-reflect EU....(the elected 'leaders' and un-elected bureaucrats)
Europe now is a US colony.
EU did that. So, EU works for Washington DC.
@@anafernandes225Absolutely, how sad.
@@anafernandes225 ..they even took it, when USA bombed their gas pipelines, how crazy is that...
EU should have seen the writing on the wall. It's just history repeating itself. Rome turned against their own allies in the end. This is a sure sign that colonialism has come to an end, and anything we see happen now is just out of Western desperation to hold onto power.
@@hanvromanthey say, when the gods want to destroy someone, they first make them mad. As long as their kids aren't involved in the suffering, the rest of eu citizens are nothing but pawns or serfs to generate the income & political power.
The worst part is that regular Eu citizens are the ones employed to commit these crimes... From the ones who blew the pipeline to arresting fellow citizens on the streets over humanitarian issues.
Its like the snake thats eating its own tail. We are all waiting to see how that will end, but my heart goes to the millions of children and youth caught up in the mess their parents allowed to happen. Now french youth are dying in Ukrane (for uS interests!), while the rest are surviving an unsurvivable economic death.
The important question is ...Why does the EU thinj it has the RIGHT To rule to world?
they had this role for centuries and they don t want to be poor and insignificant, left to themselves. But Karma has it its way
Ya I know, that's the job of the USA.
Imperialism and the “divine right of kings” (the basis of capitalism)
It's spiritual wickedness. The catholic church charted the course in 1452 with the papal bull Dum Diversas, which gave the order to subject all non-Christians wherever they can be found in perpetual servitude. Before King Leopold took control of Congo, he dispatched priests to "teach" the people. When the priests reported back to King Leopold, he instructed them to stop talking to them about The Old Testament, and focus on evangelizing them. Once the people of Congo became Christians, King Leopold sent in his army to destroy them and force them to harvest rubber. Soldiers would hack off the limbs of children or hang them if they didn't meet their quota. But Spain did the same thing in the New World. That's the mindset of the colonizer. They don't recognizer the humanity of others, because they lack humanity themselves. And the most pathetic part of it all, is that they are never satisfied.
Several African countries have recently fisycally kicked the French out! Game over!
My understanding is that the US Office of Strategic Services (OSS) developed the foundation for the EU around 1950. In 1958, as the then CIA, it funded the American Committee for a United Europe that would become the EU.
In addition, US hegemony strategy has stated that it can better "influence and control" Europe if it is bound via NATO.
In other words EU is ocupated 😉
It is 100% proved that the founder/promoter of the EEC/EU Jean Monet was a CIA agent
Exactly and that's what the first Bilderberg Conference in 1954 in Oosterbeek was about as well. "Unification of Europe" and "European Defence Community and European Defence" EU and NATO in other words.
In contradiction to its name the European Union is not actual European at all but a creation of the United States. Likewise, the United Nations is not a creation of the world's nations but, again, the USA and, to a mush lesser extent, western Europe.
@@landro9369 The American Committee on United Europe (ACUE), was founded in 1948 and they used the Marshall Plan to subvert unions and buy politicians so nothing really fundamentally changed since then.
Merci Mr Hansen. Kongo is listening. We told them to say the TRUTH to their children as we suspected, they are not morally or spiritually correct. Occupying Others'people land, is a Crime. Kongoland stands for Justice and Equality.
True, though the EU sentiment among the population is rather that Africans are more and more and more occupying the EU!
The African leaders signed the Yaounde agreement because France showed ihow far it was willing to go to keep Africans and their continent in shackles. In January 1963, France had Sylvanus Olympio killed. Olympio wanted to have its money and trade with every country on the planet.
American embassy handed a man they know rfi had declared dead 35 mins earlier to the french.
@@FreeDom_OVaLOAD Exactly. Ambassador Leon P said he was looking for the key to the location inside the US Embassy where he wanted to hide Olympio from his would-be assassins.
France has done that throughout the Sahel. Their new tactics involve "counter-terrorism"... Introducing and giving logistical support to (militants) so as to justify military presence. Niger, Mali, Burkina Faso etc just said nope to france especially because of INCREASED terrorism in the sahel (ever since l¡bya was destroyed).
There's a lot that Eu citizens don't know that still happens to date. The obvious results are the piles of immigrants on eu shores, and scores of disenfranchised youth speaking in French saying, "i will never be french!" while trying to burn paris down.
To them, its not fair to be forced to keep most of their foreign earnings in a foreign central bank (almost 70%).
Its not fair that, for them to access the 💰 they have to apply to paris (and the application can be rejected if its not "good enough").
Its not fair that, their money gets to be invested in French stock markets, and the french can decide not to reveal how much profit was earned (and keep almost all of it). All that goes to benefit the french, not the Africans to whom the money belongs.
Its not fair that France has the 1st right of refusal over ALL minerals discovered and yet-to-be discovered. The africans sell what's been rejected.. and as i mentioned, almost 70% of that doesn't stay in their economies...
@@jullietmburu9672 I hope Africans learn from their experience with France.
Easy to read
*Professor Dennis Etler*
*American political analyst with a PhD in Anthropology from the University of California, Berkeley*
*My point of view:*
*Why is the West so concerned about China? The usual answer is that China's economic growth is challenging the global hegemony that the West has dominated for at least 250 years. The Chinese military has also reached a level comparable to that of the West, and is therefore no longer intimidated and bullied by the West. All of these are facts and reasons why the West wants to attack China and portray it as the source of all evil.*
*But there is another factor that must be considered. What scares the West is not just China's economic and military might, but China's success as a country versus the West's failures.*
*In addition, China has established a society of ethnic harmony, in sharp contrast to the systemic racism of Western society.*
*Western ruling elites and their media mouthpieces are unwilling to admit that China has eradicated extreme poverty while their own people are increasingly trapped in poverty. They are unwilling to admit that China has built 21st century infrastructure while they are lagging far behind. They are unwilling to face the fact that the Chinese people overwhelmingly support their government, while Western people have lost confidence in their governments; they are unwilling to accept that China has defeated the COVID-19 epidemic, but they have not; and finally, they do not Be willing to accept the fact that a non-white country is doing better than them and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.*
*To divert attention from these facts, the West has concocted a series of lies and slanders that allow them to deny reality. The West slanders poverty alleviation as "genocide". Instead of acknowledging advances in high-speed rail, electric vehicles, alternative energy and e-commerce, they accuse China of "intellectual property theft" and instead of focusing on social and economic systems that serve the people, accuse China of forced labor and forced sterilization. They do not see China as defending its national sovereignty in the South China Sea, Hong Kong and Taiwan, but call it an aggressor.*
*All attacks on China serve multiple purposes, but one of the main ones is to ensure that Westerners don't hear or see the real China, because if they do, they might get what Western elites don't want them to have Ideas such as socialism is for the benefit of the 99% of the population, while capitalism is primarily for the enrichment of the 1%.*
Unfortunately the majority of their ignorant public have bought into those lies. Their main purpose of creating those lies is to get their public fully behind them when they go to war with China n ii think their anti China fake news propaganda has succeeded. Sadly the world is not just destroyed by the evil but also the ignorant
The sad part for europe is the total impoverishment for the general population....problem is they don't understand it yet.
Their racism is deeply rooted to the bone.
It's useful here to make a distinction between the elites (who are benefiting handsomely from their submission to/collusion with Uncle Sam, and some of whose children hold dual citizenship across the Atlantic) and ordinary people across Europe, who are essentially getting robbed or risk having their homes and families destroyed in a future war - and who have often NOT climbed a lot up the ladder of wealth and security over the last thirty years. This aspect is completely hidden by dressing it up as a quarrel between "hard-working, brash Mr America and his entitled but weak cousin Miss Europe".
Pascal, absolutely fascinating. In the 1960s I never thought much about politics, I was totally focused on my career in science. This fits like pieces in a jigsaw once presented so clearly.
So Europe basically believe system is that "what is yours is mine and what is mine is mine".The same attitude is behave what is happening to today's world.Unipolar world for America/Western countries.
Psychopathy is intrinsic to the political elite and to its owners; the nation's transnational financial ruling class.
*“if an individual in a position of political power is a psychopath, he or she can create an epidemic of psychopathology in people who are not, essentially, psychopathic.”*
― Andrzej Lobaczewski, Political Ponerology
Psychopath by proxy
The exploiters are blackrock, vanguard and the billionaire investors behind them. Profits always are privatised, losses or guilt are socialized
True - look what Cecil Rhodes and Rothschild did in South Africa...
Yep, they tried to impose the same system in Russia during the 1990s - the guys who can move in fast with lots of money are the ones who stand to gain when loads of formerly public assets or state-owned businesses are privatized by decree - at the time it was called "necessary shock therapy" to create a free market economy, but Russia ultimately gathered herself together and refused to submit to this blunt neo-con game. Of course the West has never forgiven this ultimate sin, and are trying to punish her.
No way to EU will remain politically relevant by 2035 - assuming it will survive another decade.
2025 imo.
representative democracy is a non-sense. and you can't have democracy in a captured state either, ex. usa dominating california. poor helvetia, they have less democracy than their grandparents did, simply by being surrounded.
representative democracy is a pernicious non-sense. it makes talking about actual democracy difficult, which is one of its purposes. it dazzles the cattle while the oligarchs get on with looting the state.
the interesting part of eu, is that the representatives are even farther from the voters than the usual con-game. this leads to the 'other-worldly demeanor ' of von der somthing, who comports herself like the empress of austro-hungary, while sounding like the red queen of wonderland.
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你提到的欧盟🇪🇺主席 是 美国🇺🇸的代理人
你这个都不知道吗
The changes you see in Africa are not indicative of a new scramble for Africa. Africans have the ability and agency to choose their friends. When America dominates Europe, it is not only as a result of a scramble for Europe.
If truth be told, the relationship between Africa and Europe is like an abusive marriage in which the spouse is routinely disrespected. Africa therefore has an incentive to choose new partners who not only treat Africa with respect but also are more open to a win- win relationship.
Nigeria, for instance, has been in the orbit of Europe and the West since independence in 1960. Although the Nigerian petroleum industry has been dominated by British, Dutch, French, and Italian companies, yet Nigerian infrastructure like railways and airports continued to decay. Yet, in the short decade when China entered the Nigerian market, Nigerian railways was revived, and new airports and seaports are being built with the help of the Chinese. We in African are in a better position to know who are real friends.
The crocodile tears from America and Europe about Chinese debt traps are only because of Western unhappiness about Chinese ascendancy. Africa is more interested in her development than in choosing sides in a Western instigated geopolitical power struggle.
China's business is business. Americas business is war and world hegemony.
Hello Dr Pascal,
I am a big fan of your show.
Great show with your guest professor Peo.
The subject is very important one,I am from Morocco and here we are very aware of EU and especially France direct or indirect involvement I many African countries but Africa is awake and as it is mentioned during your podcast, African countries had other partners to choose from with better partnership.
China or Russia even Turkey are not interested in overthrowing government.
Morocco for example is doing many good things in west Africa, opening banks, building bridges and France hate that so there is a soft collision between both governments,the situation is very tense it took a while for France to understand that it loosing a grip over it's old colonies,now it is trying to go back where it is not wanted anymore through Morocco.
In my opinion takes more than it gives that is it is very hated in the African countries.
People are not stupid anymore,some example: SeraLeion ,France takes all the Uranium and leaves behind the radioactive material undisposed,but no one is talking about it.
Again,we can talk about this subject for years.
When the genocide happened in Rewonda, indirectly Belgium is involved but no country got involved to stop it,where was the USA,France, Germany,they didn't give a damn.
Look what is happening in Palestine,the genocide is happening and the whole west in complicit,as I said people are not stupid they can see live what is going on.
Again, thanks to you and all your guests,all the time important subjects.
Most Americans have no idea about the French history in Vietnam before the American entry into Vietnam.
It's a shame that the EU became staunchly political with global aspirations. It should have stayed with trade and standards only. No wonder some nations, including within Europe, feel under threat from the EU. It's becoming another form of USSR, and look how that ended up.
The EU has to wake up.Africa has already regained its freedom. The following decades will demonstrate that. Europe cannot compete. They need others in shackles.
Europe needs to get emancipated from Uncle Sam.
So France used US and EU to delay crumbling of their empire. Clever however you look at it.
As an African I found this talk very interesting. We have agency and do not wish to be warned against potential partners. We will decide who our are partners will be and do not want to be tied to exclusive partnership arrangements. Neither do we wish to take instructions from the USA , Europe , China or Russia . We can coexist will all of these countries and the EU .
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中国🇨🇳只是做生意 和发展你们的国家经济和基础设施 有利于两国快速贸易 人民生活水平提高
@@pengzhang5081 correct, that is what i like about China
@@pengzhang5081 That's your story.
No, not cracy nor laughable. The E.U. not only threatens its own members like Hungary and Serbia but also Russia and China. Africa in their mind is but a colony to provide the natural resources they need, nothing more and nothing less. Besides, the leader told them so. Just look at the G7 and everyone knows.
Serbia is NOT a member of the EU. There's a strong opposition inside Serbia to joining it.
Serbia is not in the EU. Moreover, there's a strong internal opposition in Serbia against joining it. Recent polling shows 80% of the young (18-35 year olds) are against joining the EU.
@@vaska1999
Serbia's E.U. application since 2009 is still pending, mainly because of the NATO bombing in Kosovo in 1998-1999.
@@jackchiu7560 Well the EU must also know that their empire is over. Can't control Africa.
@@jackchiu7560 As I said, Serbia is not in the EU. Less than 50% of Serbs want to join it and would prefer to jon BRICS+.
Thank you for these sane and honest conversations, much appreciated Pascal! We need more of this to be heard everywhere!
Europe future is bleak. Russia was propping euro- European paper money by selling their natural resources for those paper money. That made Europe strong. Now, US is the main European energy partner and no way States will be selling their commodities to Europe for euro paper. Euro and Europe going down. Considering demographics, chance to get back for EU without Russian resources is 0.
Exactly. But it's a rare academic who wants to acknowledge it.
欧洲本来就会越来越差 回到历史的轨迹上
因为抢劫来的财富 尤其是抢劫中国清朝 民国的资源 黄金白银等成了它们原始积累来发展自己的国家
一旦这些侵略和抢劫没有了 有没有资源
就会回到历史上没有航海之前
It wasn't that much... energy supply is mostly an industry problem, especially in germany. Don't make your own reality 😂 It was something like 200 billion usd that Russia exported, only swedens gdp is 600 billion for scale, Sweden is 2% of EU's population.
In all of this, the USA was not the "innocent anti-imperialist" bystander, as often mistakenly assumed based on the statements made by some or other US leaders.
After the Truman Doctrine had divided Europe, Washington DC intended to enable the totally destroyed and waning Europeans to extend themselves trying to hang on to their empires. It was a US strategy. regardless of what some or other US leaders or historians might claim:
"During World War II, study groups of the (US) State Department and Council on Foreign Relations developed plans for the postwar world in terms of what they called the "Grand Area," which was to be subordinated to the needs of the American economy. The Grand Area was to include the Western Hemisphere, Western Europe, the Far East, the former British Empire (which was being dismantled), the incomparable energy resources of the Middle East (which were then passing into American hands as we pushed out our rivals France and Britain), the rest of the Third World and, if possible, the entire globe. These plans were implemented, as opportunities allowed." SOURCE: GEORGE KENNAN AND THE HISPANIC-LUSITANIAN WORLD: A CONTEMPORARY REFLECTION Antonio Luis Ramos Membrive
US strategist in these think tanks lay out the scheme of what was going to be the new post-war reality, as a "Grand Area" as an almost exclusive "back yard", and under their "natural rights" for the USA to control. Every part of the new world order was assigned a specific function. The more industrial countries were to be guided as "great workshops". Those who had demonstrated their prowess during the war (would now be working under US supervision and finance). *More, undeveloped regions were to "fulfill its major function as a source of raw materials and a market" for the industrial centers, as a memo put it. They were to be "exploited" for the reconstruction of Europe (The references are to South America and Africa, but the points are general.)*
To further quote the article: "These declassified documents are read only by scholars, who apparently find nothing odd or jarring in all this." Note, all words in quotes were actual words used IN THIS OFFICIAL US DOCUMENT, and the thesis and its quoted sources can all be downloaded for free, from the www, and using these key words provided for your search engine.
A very informative conversation about the new culture of "neocolonialism" (wars) of this EU and how dangerous it is.
Prof Peo Hansen's interesting descriptions of key historical points. China in africa, from Europe's perspective is a seldom discussed topic.
Not merely towards Africa, but towards former Communist Europe, too, in particular, towards former Yugoslavia, which is beyond ironic, considering that Yugoslavia was the third global power during the Cold War, whereas Western Europe was but the USA's asset across the sea and the extension of their global ambition.
Yugoslavia may have been a bit of a regional player but it was never , anywhere close to a global power. It was certainly a founder and major force behind the Non-Aligned Movement. Which is exactly why a socialist Yugoslavia had to be destroyed.
@@vaska1999 Yugoslavia's status as the third global power during the Cold War was attested by both Washington and Moscow: "Nine years later, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the chief advisor to President Jimmy Carter, said that Yugoslavia, together with the United States and the Soviet Union, was the only country that had affirmed itself as a global factor. Belgrade's position in the Non-Aligned Movement was constructive. In the light of the dying détente, parallel to an increase in the number of conflicts in the Third World, the behavior of Cuba and Vietnam, Yugoslavia really seemed like an “American communist ally”.
The source: "JV, SSIP, Služba za istraživanje i dokumentaciju (Federal Secretariat for Foreign Affairs, Department for Research and Documentation), Str. pov. br. 843, 29 December 1979 Pregled obaveštajnih elemenata za procenu bezbednosnog položaja SFRJ (A Survey of the Intelligence Elements for the Security Status of the SFRY)". The only way to deny this fact is to revise or relativize the definition of what a global power is.
And what do you know about Yugoslavia? It was never a normal country. I am from the former Yugoslavia and I know that nobody was happy. It had to fall apart as it is.
EU must stop playing money for things that is not in their interest.
Pascal, your channel is so good, I give each video a like before I even listen to it.
Maybe they think their colonial sins had been forgiven so they can make new sins
它们👀从来不承认殖民了非洲 你看看它们的教科书 历史书 都没有写它们殖民非洲哦亲
它们写的是给你带去了文明 文化 即使灭绝你们 也是消灭一些生物罢了 ❤
I'd like to know exactly who these actors are: 'France', 'Britain', 'America'. They are certainly not the people of those countries. They are certainly not the usual run of the mill elected reps who're generally barely above council member level.
I find it even difficult to believe they are the heads of govt of those countries, given that Presidents and Prime Ministers change but these motivations and actions you describe apparently persist throughout all changes.
We have libraries filled with volumes packed with these kind of narratives, talking about what 'Germany', 'Britain', 'France' etc., etc. did and explaining in depth motivations and such.
I think it is misleading and uninformative to simply refer to these nation names and say they did it.
Fair enough when you say some historical fact: UK declared war on Falklands or something like that, yes.
But these discourses, those libraries full of books, finish up ascribing virtual personalities to these nation names. Personalities with motivations and methods and historic grudges and whatever.... They construct very vivid sort of virtual persons and then the whole history of the world is told in terms of those persons.
But the persons are not named.
Yes, you can say Churchill is named, Hitler is named and so on but much of these discourses are not about that kind of event at all. And even then Hitler, Churchill - Biden today - Netanyahu - though presented to us as the sole activator cannot really be so. They need a coterie of support.
And I think throughout history its that coterie of support at that time that needs describing and illuminating. For it is their motivations, their desires, their perfidy, their multi generational grudges that make all things happen.
This is not just an academic thing.
It is a destructive fact that while history is seen in this simplified way people more and more believe it and tacitly surrender their own agency so that we get spectacles like today where ALL the western peoples are in thrall to a handful of lunatics hell bent on bringing us all to mutual assured destruction. Never thinking for a moment they might have the power to influence events.
Great point.
@@eastafricanist9156 Thanks. I can't quite express it properly. But it's solid, I'm sure. Look at the comment by @sinic1978 right under this (if the list is the same for you as me) : "The European Union's lack of self awareness is laughable." Again, same thing. Who/what is 'The European Union' ? It is clearly not the people. He doesn't mean the people are not aware. He means this abstract entity represented by some individuals. Then it gets replied t o by @katong1935 who says 'Europe wants to shape the world...' etc. He doesn't mean the people, either. The people in Europe don't want to shape any worlds. They just want to eat, drink and be merry. But by inference those things he lists as attributes of this 'Europe' : 'coercive and even violent means..' get attributed to the people.
And then just to show clearly how the ambiguity is plain a little further @yetao5801 asks 'Are Americans any better?' - quite clearly talking about the people.
So we've gone from bureaucrats or pollitians/power brokers/manipulators/vested interests to the common people smoothly and without notice.
Seems to me its all like that all the time and to me that means a basically nonsense narrative on the one hand and a great difficulty in dealing with problems on the other because we can't identify where they are. :)
To fascists, states are beings with rights.
Historians shorthand refer to the cliques of permanent bureaucrats that rule these countries through many administrations. The elected leaders are peripheral & temporary.
At the time of the Brexit campaign here in the UK, a lot of people who didn't want to Leave tried to explain that the point of the EU was more than just enhanced trade, but to promote peace and good relationships. Me included.
After seeing the EU's stance on Ukraine and Gaza, I no longer believe that to be the case.
Turkey has been trying to join the EU since 1987, and at present the negotiations are entirely stalled - Turkey apparently does not meet the EU criteria.
Ukraine was noted as one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, and had an on-going civil war. It was decades away from meeting EU criteria. Yet fast-track membership was offered. Utter hypocrisy.
It's not like that. Ukraine and Turkey are two different worlds.
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Absolutely they are two different worlds, but offering to fast track Ukraine after slow-tracking Turkey for so many years seemed to me to be deliberately provocative.
But honestly, I am no expert - it's only my opinion - viewing from the UK. I could well be wrong - not the first time that's happened! It is just how it looks to me.
My main question is: how are we going to help our friends and family in Europe to wake up from the dream that we (the West) are the good guys of the world? In my conversations with my ‘ dreaming’ friends they get só stressed when I explain the reality about the West, they can hardly cope with the truth. Any thoughts on how we can help them to wake up and deal with the truth?
They won't
We here are also living in the same delusional reality, perhaps we need to self reflect our own selves first.
I gave up on that following a visit to Italy about 10 years ago, when a friend asked me sarcastically if I support dictators for criticising the US illegal invasion and destruction of Iraq.
Thank you Professor Hensen.
Europe, awaken now !Your days of glory are already gone. Don’t build any more castles in the air.
‘Africa’
Africa cradle of humanity,
That sings a melody
A rhythm of energy,
So wild and free
Magnificent and wonderful,
Whose dawn will rise
When sunsets sink,
In an aged world
© Mary Cecil
So beautiful!
Love this!
I think order, for Europa to proser, I think Africa must prosper, the emigration is not good for Europa, in order to stop that, it most be livable in Africa, and the Middle East.
So close to 100K - c'mon people. Share this site to get Pascal over the line.
Nice men, but he did not read the memo of the "rent seekers" of the EU and family dynasties that never worked on day in their life and intend to keep it that way.
A very good and pertinent point.
An incisive and excellent analysis by Dr Peo Hansen.
Kudos.
This game has been going on. Just see how UK, after the loss of India, created financial empire with its capital being London.
All the financial crooks flee with their wealth to London.
So insightful. Thank you.
Great conversation. What Dr. Hansen says toward the end about Europe’s impact is greatest when speaking for peace is profound. It’s exactly what is needed. From the Canadian perspective, the same applies. How did we all move so easily from highly respected peace promoting and peacekeeping roles to the warmongering our leaders engage in these days. Maybe there is another book here on this question😗
If you are being sincere, Europe and western culture in general are warmongers, their history is littered with wars even during supposed peace times they are preparing for and anticipating war. If you compare to other parts of the world, they are very abnormal and extreme.
Russian message to the Westerners
Как воспоминает немецкий солдат Густав Винтер во время высадки англо-американцев в Нормандии 6 Июня 1944 года он - как и его сослуживцы - задавался вопросом почему цивилизационно и расово близкие им люди мешают Немцам и их союзникам защищать Европу от большевизма.
Этa байка появляется в многочисленных воспоминаниаях немецких и австрийских ветеранов.
Можнo подумать, что в случае свержения большевистского режима "порабащёнными народами" СССР допустим в 1940 году Гитлер уж точно отменил бы план "Барбаросса".
Россия не идеальная страна.
Были и есть среди нас ничтожные предатели, националисты, ксенофобы, антисемиты и расисты но их ненависть никогда не сотрёт с надгробных стелл русские, украинские, белорусские, азиятские, кавказские и... еврейские имена и фамилии на разброшенных по всей центральной и Восточний Европе советских военных кладбищах.
Запомните, что в Краcной Армии мы - в отличии от американской - безпощадно искореняли расовую и... "гендерную" сегрегацию. Эти термины не плод умов наших поскольку человечность издавна и есть частью наших культурных ценностей. Не мы а ваши отцы и деды их придумали... только потому, что ваши предкам никогда не была дана возможность унизить сибиряка, калмыка, башкира, чуваша, тувинца, татарина, чеченца... да - уж не дай бог - обидить нашу "бабу". И вам не советую пробовать а то и получите бесплатный ускоренный курс обучения мултикультурализму, расовой терпимости, феминизму и... политкорректности.
Американцы и австралийцы неохотно вспоминают расовую сегрегацию во всех областях общественной жизни, которая просуществовала до 60-ых годов ХХ века.
Немцы и австрийцы во время пребывания в техаских лагерях для военнопленных никак не могли понять почему белые американцы относились лучше к ним чем к своим чернокожим сослуживцам. Бывшие cолдаты Роммеля пользовались столовой с надписью "Whites-only".
Бельгийцы, вы помните Экспо 1958 с выставкой живых чернокожих "экспонатов" из колониального Конго: мужчин, женщин и детей, задачей которых было учить и развлекать белых европейцев и проповедовать идею превосходства людей белой расы. У ограды толпились белые, ухоженные люди со своими ангельскими детишками. Они смеялись и издевались над конголезцами, а самые развязные бросали через ограду деньги и бананы. Этот «человеческий зоопарк» находился не так уж далеко от сегодняшних брюссельских офисов Евросоюза. Тем временем наши советские школники из всех уголков нашей многонациональной страны посещали ВДНХ в Москве. Напомню, что c 1949 по 1991 год в советских вузах получили образование более 500 тыс. человек из 150 стран четверть из них из Африки.
Двойные стандарты Западных СМИ зашкаливают. Где были ваши правозащитники и неутомимые "майданные" корреспонденты "Голоса Америки", "Deutsche welle", BBC и "Радио Свобода" когда в 2014 в Одесском Доме профсоюзов горели люди?
Понятно, если бы тогда в Одессе погибли представители польской, венгерской или - не дай бог - еврейской общин Украины Европа и весь цивилизованный мир yж точно бы не молчали.
Bо время Второй мировой войны вы боролись за демократию, свободу и ваши цивилизационные ценности. Мы на Востоке боролись за б и о л о г и ч е с к о е выживание/существование.
Наши тогдашние враги, немцы, ни в чём "не виноватые" австрийцы и прадеды многих современных европейцев, которые - на свою беду - в 1941 году пришли незваные на нашу землю с огнём и мечом - слишком поздно это осознали.
Как бы ни хотелось западным историкам уменьшить роль Рабоче-крестьянской Красной армии в разгромe Гитлеровской Германии им не удастся обмануть статистику: 75% военнослужащих Третьего рейха и его союзников погибло на Восточном фронте. Думаю, что имменно простые советские солдаты отучили (надеюсь навсегда) немцев, австрийцев и остальных новоевропейцев от милитаризмa и похдoв на Восток (Drang nach Osten).
I think Russia should simply forget about Europe for the next century or two, in the sense of not even bothering to resume trade with these countries. Let reality teach Western Europeans manners and a healthy respect for truth, something that will take roughly a couple of centuries. Until then, it's pointless bothering with these people.
希望俄罗斯 可以对侵略清朝 抢劫清朝屠杀住在西伯利亚的清朝中国人给个交代并且归还中国西伯利亚等领土
@@pengzhang5081
Nee-hau, Dear Chinese ally, let's deal first with the current immediate existential threats to our nations from the anglo-franco-saxon hegemonists/imperialists/ colonialists, then we will talk about the ancient history to your heart's content .
@@pengzhang5081you hope the CIA pays you for unsettling these settled matters.
I have another take on it. France bailed on NATO about roughly the same time Europe had recovered from WW2 and was so in a position to fight another war. I think they bailed to give themselves manoeuvre room. Back then everybody was waiting for the next big one.
I think ,the balance of power is currently changing....the western alliance need a reform of their politics..
In all fairness. In my opinion, it isn't all of Europe. Its mostly western Europe.
Their self image of them being the most enlightened, the most fully human, people in history is unbearable.
Makes me nauseous.
EU cut itself from Siberian resources, France/EU thrown out of Africa, the EU is down and out.
It wasn't long ago that the EU did rule the world.
They just forgot that they don't anymore.
Co-exist like a family, even if you don’t particularly like one another; you still don’t wish harm on one another. But the scenario now is more like gang lawfare.
When I came to Europe in the 70s, the EU was a best peace project in the world. Fifty years later, the EU has become the biggest war project in the world, at the behest of US and NATO.
That's because it wasn't even the EU in the 1970s, it was the European Economic Community (EEC) . That bloc was still driven by geopolitical biases and European self-interests, of course, but it was NOTHING like the monster that became the EU. Europe should NEVER have embarked on political union - it's madness, ridiculously undemocratic and serves only the elites and corporations of Europe, not to mention the biggest and most venal leech of them all, the United States.
An Ursula. Mit so einem Brett vor dem Kopf sieht man halt den Holzweg nicht mehr, auf dem man sich bewegt.
The first Swedish academic on an online platform... Very good discussion, although I think Peo could have corrected the mistake "carbohydrate". The insular political elites of Sweden don't seem to care about progressive academic reflections.
It would be interesting to hear what Peo Hansen talk about today modern American and NATO hegemony/colonial in the world.
I'm loving these interviews Pascal. Thank you for your work.
Would it be offensive to point out that Japan is not a part of Europe and carbohydrates is basically food and not carbon based fuels?
The point i think was to compare Japan with its energy dependence on Russia to West Europe dependence on Mideast.
Hydrocarbons, carbohydrates, matter of convention how we distinguish fooda from poisons.
@@crhu319 West Europe also depends on Russian energy, 40% of a lot is difficult to replace in a finite market, well, that is without creating huge price shocks. Geography is important no matter how we "feel" it should be.
Well it's good to know the difference as ordering hydrocarbons in a restaurant instead of carbohydrates may be fatal.
Another excellent interview.
The West, especially the EU in this multipolar world seems to be going through the 5 stages of grief.
They are at the tail end of the first stage, Denial.
We are starting to see signs of the second stage, Anger. Funding Ukraine, even though the war is lost. Europe militarizing and rise of far right political parties.
A very interesting analogy - you could indeed be right!
A good beginning. We’ll look forward to the follow through
Thank you, I agree with Mr. Hansen.
Von Der Leyen:
"I wouldn't quite like people to be Better than me..."
....Vondy...we have some Disenchanted News...
Very good discussion. Thank you. But there is a big black hole in the very center of it: the fact that EU neocolonialism now operates as a subsystem within the unipolar US Empire, even though the Empire is beginning to show big cracks. After WW2, the US forced Britain to give up its empire and to work as its assistant in building the US neocolonial Empire. This was part of a conscious plan made by US imperial thinkers in the 1930s. Another plan, the Marshall Plan, was above all a plan to make European economies subservient to the US economy, and the promise-breaking expansion westward of Nato and the recent anti-Russia proxy war in Ukraine are also evidence of the fact that the US, led by the neocons, regards Europe as an integral part of the US Empire and that this status involves the steady erosion of EU autonomy and agency and the conscious destruction of high-tech European industry, particularly German industry. The fact that Europe is under siege by the US can be clearly seen by the pathetic way Germany (and Sweden, etc., etc.) refused to say a word of protest against the open secret that the US arbitrarily destroyed the crucial Nordstream pipeline, an act which was in fact an act of war. It was also a warning and a declaration that any European country that chose to make a peace treaty or do business with Russia, a country that refuses to recognize the US Empire, would be severely punished. Within this new subaltern situation, many European leaders seem to want to play the role of virtuous sidekick to their neocon "allies" in Washington DC who are actually their masters, and as vassals of the powerful US neocons it is not surprising that many European leaders in turn continue to treat African nations as if they were still neocolonies. People who work within hierarchies need to feel superior those they believe are "below" them.
Brilliant observations.
Great conversation for a better perspective... thanks..
Thanks. Another wonderful interview.
„Lieber tausende Liechtensteins als eine EU.“ - Hans-Hermann Hoppe, King
Very educative.
Pascal - I'm your fan. Thumbs up to the guest too 👍👍
Thanks, another great interview
Particularly for finding these people and articles/books that we would never have heard about otherwise.
Does one trust a job applicant with a long long history criminal activities going back.centuries ?
Tradition dies hard.
No manufacturers but rule the world….INSANITY
EU maybe has colonial mindset but without eastern countries like Poland, Slovakia, Estonia etc.
True
The EU is more oppressive than the old Warsaw Pact.
Still they actively supported color revolutions in Ukraine , Belarus and Russia. They helped to seize power in Ukraine and transform Ukraine into a weapon against Russia. What is it if not colonianial mindset? Nazism is also a colonialism.
@@indycoon no no, you mistake governments /puppets of Brussels who count on future EU posts/ with people. Poland by example never had any other continent colony so there is no colonial mindset in polish heads... on contrary to english french, spanish, portugese etc..some still have colonies in some kind.
It is a perpetual colonial project
Waauw! A much see interview.
Highly recommended.
I don't think that most people understand just how much it was the Western European desire for peace and disarmament that persuaded the USSR that it was safe to relax their authoritarianism. It was far more the Ostpolitik than US pressure that permitted this. US (NATO) pressure only ever increased Soviet fears and authoritarianism.
The loosening of authoritarianism in the USSR was the direct consequence of Stalin's demise. Once he was gone, things began to change quite rapidly and without any reference to Western Europe.
@@vaska1999 I would say that under Brezhnev it increased again after the perceived failure of Khrushchev's attempts at rapprochement with the West. By 'Authoritarianism' I mean 'control of states interaction with the West' as Brezhnev understood only too well the nature of the West and its approach to Russia. probably a poor choice of word.
As to internal politics, yes I totally agree with you and the West's refusal to accept that Stalin and his political approach ever died is another facet of the West's populist mindset.
As africa goes bricks
There comes.more
Prosperity .for them
Africa...get rich&feed
All africans.organic..
You deserve it..your
Dream comes.trough
Blacksmith theo.jilderts
Congretulates you...
Great talk. Well done Peo Hansen
Wow! My understanding deepens, perspective broadens, knowledge base evolves with each episode. A privilege. Thank you one and all who make this remarkable resource available. Thank you Professor Hansen. Thank you Professor Lottaz. Best wishes. 🌞🖖🏼
Toujours aussi intéressant .
hangover of old generation. gives a false sense of superiority.
Crazy AND laughable.
What is the obsession of Europe with Africa?
Is anyone following the beef between Germany and Botswana?
Germany - the largest coffeee producing country on earth; only with NO coffee plantations within its borders. €€€
Also not having a good relationship with it's former colony Namibia wher it committed heinous crimes, which it has only admitted in the last few decades
Yes some in Bundestag care more about cow than Batswana people.. remember Bantoustan in Apartheid South Africa.. the jungle is watching and learning.
27:08- Hydrocarbons! Although you need carbohydrates too😅.
great and informative presentation, thanks !
Why did Europe have more freedom in foreign policies during the 60s and 70s?
Could it be the fact that NATO and America did not exert as much control over the continent?
In other words, Europe was more sovereign than is the case today?
Absolutely.
Neo colonialism is quite similar to the earliest large scale colonialism... it is corporate in structure, with states standing behind ready with larger violence. East India. Even early Roman colonialism was in certain ways corporatized.
The EU has a "democratic deficit": the EU Comission is NOT elected - but has the sole right to create the laws - which the parliament then votes on