Pusher Whoop (Meteor65 Flipped Over) 🙃
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
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resource MOTOR 1 B08
resource MOTOR 2 B06
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align_board_roll = 0
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Here are my motor remap and board orientation settings.
Note where my USB port is. If yours doesn't match, it won't work.
resource MOTOR 1 B08
resource MOTOR 2 B06
resource MOTOR 3 B07
resource MOTOR 4 B10
align_board_roll = 0
align_board_pitch = 180
align_board_yaw = 270
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battery at or above the props is where it's at ;)
Yeah man thats seems like a peice of heavenly wisdom the almighty ummagawd might throw in. Lol
ummagawd what’s the advantage of a pusher whoop over normal whoop in terms of flight performance?
@@neil2153 it isn't so much the fact that it's a pusher, it has everything to do with where the mass is at. In the case of what Albert did, he flipped it over because it allows for the battery (the biggest concentration of mass on the quad) to be up top. With the weight at or above the prop line, it makes for a much more "planted" feel in flight.
@@ummagawdFPV so do you think I should try putting a top mount battery frame on my 3'', even if that makes it 5g heavier? (current weight:240-245g)
Muahahahahaha! "If you're one of those people that are like that, then yeah, just follow the crowd and do whatever someone else tells you to do." Good on you Albert!
I converted my Meteor 75 to the pusher configuration today. Foam at the bottom was a great idea :).
Excellent!
omg i was just trying to figure out what to do with my extra meteor65 frames. This is a great option idea for those lookin' to try somethin' different! i swapped my mobula6 build into one of these frames with 4blade HQ props. i'm not unhappy.
Yes, PLEASE!!! Pusher Whoop conversion In-depth Tutorial (i.e. Aspects of how Flight controllers operate and function to sense orientation and the related Beta-flight settings.) Thank you Albert! I sincerely appreciate all the info you allways share!
That frame really suits being flipped upside down, it almost looks like it was designed to be a pusher frame.
I plan on inverting the frame when I get it. Thanks.
I have been saying that this configuration was the best for literally years, and I am glad to see someone go with it! Finally! Hope that this inspires people to go this way more!
If BetaFPV does a pusher make sure they flip the duct part so that the wide part of the duct is facing upward and tapering down. There may be some efficiency loss if this is not addressed on the pusher frame
BetaFPV Beta95x :)
Shoe Goo and any flexible household glue works
I don't know about others but i'd like a pusher whoop!
Love the creativity. New ideas and tinkering are such a great part of this hobby!
Wow thats awsome , i love to try this on my US65😁
Absolutely brilliant! This is a design I've been thinking about but have not had the time to build. I agree with the way you mounted the battery. If you look at the design of a Cessna aircraft like the 182, the pilot sits below the wing. Also, the fuel is in the wing! So, Cessna's design is time tested and proven to work well. I know, I've logged a ton of hours flying them. These days quads are more fun and much safer!!! Happy flying. And yes I would love to see a Betafpv pusher.
I believe this a very smart configuration as my TinyHawk II has taken over as my fave whoop flyer and i was considering ways to do this with left over parts from broken birds i like the idea of the camera closer to prop line of the whoop. Great job Albert! I think Betafpv would be foolish to not explore production to this style of tiny whoop. I was actually considering doing an Pusher build with an IH3 frame and and the propeller guards from an KK ET115 but they aren’t that sturdy, just to see if i could do it and to see what the difference of pusher/tractor power system on bigger quads. lol. Like i dont have enough to do but sounds fun. Actually I have spent a lot more time flying and less fixin this year thanks again for great content. Shalom
Im very new to FPV. I bought a Beta95X V2 with a TBS Crossfire. I understand this is a pusher drone? im going to use a TBS Tango radio controller that is presently paired with a TBS Oblivion that i crashed (and destroyed) recently. My questions is, how do I pair the TBS Tango radio controller with the Beta95X V2? Do i have to change any configuration since i’m going to bind a regular controller with a pusher drone? Thank you very much.
nice vid, I think the reduced drag slim profile could easily add a couple laps on each pack... tiny whoops are a lot less fun when they are sitting on the bench swapping/charging packs.
Niiiice... I have this frame lying on the table... And so often i thought .. Should try a pusher. Now would be nice to have 3d props in that size for those whoops. Would be interesting to learn 3d that way... Love this hobby.
Albert, can you comment on what the status of the Chinese vendors and shipping is at this time? Eg BG, xinte, etc?
Banggood is back up and running. I don't know about Xinte
My Banggood stuff is not moving for 4 weeks do not order from them not to mention the last stuff I got from them didn't work 315aud gone actually dogs
Looks great 👍 definitely want it
I tried this with my cetus x and it completey flips out. It shoots straight up and hits the ceiling or while flying it looks like its having a seizure. I oriented the blade properly so it does fly sometimes. I did not reconfigure the motors though. Any thoughts on what might be wrong (i didn't touch the antenna either).
I like the battery on top, then you're not landing on your Lipo battery!
😁
Did you do a video on the Betaflight mods required to "flip" a quad to pusher?
Motor remapping and board orientation videos are flooded on RUclips. No need for me to make another one.
Hello Albert really enjoy your videos, any chance you can do a pusher whoop Tutorial using the Mobula6 parts with this Metor65 frame? And was this pusher whoop set with props orientation in or out? Do you think the Meteor75mm whoop frame and the Trashcan 75mm whoop frame can also work as a pusher whoop? Thanks, keep up the good work.
Mobula6 video coming soon. I haven't tried other frames yet. I'll think about it.
Definitely tell beta fpv to make one! It could compete with the r3d shifters frame 👍👍
Does having no obstruction for the air increase the flight time to any measurable extent?
I didn't do any scientific testing but my guess is it does increase efficiency.
Thanks all for reply. Seems like clean air on the thrust side would be more efficient... And when it comes to 65mm, it's all about flight time and responsiveness. Would like to think both would increase slightly.
Would be interested in an m6 conversion like this. Could you do that Albert?
Yes, I'm working on it.
I prefer the battery diagonally 😋
Haha!
I just got a meteor 65 and I know people have said the camera is garbage but mine is a hell of a lot worse then yours. I think it’s out of focus out of the box. Can you focus them or are they glued? I don’t want to break it trying to twist the lens.
It's glued but you can see it on the outside. You can just peel it off and refocus the lens. You'll need some hot glue to hold it in place after you focus it.
@@AlbertKimTV thank you I’ll give it a try.
@@AlbertKimTV so I did my best at picking of the glue but they put it all around the thing and when I tried to turn it the metal ring holding the lens on turns and not the threaded barrel.🤷🏼♂️ can I just get a replacement camera or better yet do you have a better suggestion of camera? I have a 3D printer so I can make a mount for it.
I would definitely buy one of these if BetaFPV made it and did it right by listening to you. It's a no brainer purchase.
Dang. I have the NBD 75 frame coming in to convert my Mobula6 HD to a pusher. Did you ever do the Mobula6 conversion?
I tried but had some issues with that frame so I gave up. This one was much "easier". 🤣
@@AlbertKimTV You should try again with the Beta75 frame. 😉
BTW, the props would be better protected in a turtle mode crash over flip, since the frame may allow the blades to have a better clearance while upside down after a crash. I know it's kind of counter-intuitive but think about it. I don't use turtle mode anymore on whoops because of the dangers of blowing the FC over a snagged up prop, so it's possible this might help.
If they could do this betafpv I would buy this ASAP with HD camera for DJI what can fit a naked gopro
DJI and naked GoPro on a 65mm whoop? Hmmm, does anyone know if this is even possible?
@@AlbertKimTV That would be amazing i have just seen T-Motor TRON 80 HD WHOOP on Drome Camps RC this amazing this is the way forward but on a smaller level is amazing. if someone could make one with a naked GoPro 65 hd 4k.
Looks like my tinyhawk2 lol. Lmk how tuning goes .
I'm running RPM filter with close to stock PIDs
Kinda like the tiny hawk whoop! I think that's the one? Great work and great flying!!
Very nice
the prop should never spin off again cool
Damn it! No hot glue link! Hahaha 😂
Go to harbor freight. Get a 20% off online. 👍
Anyone know where I can find motor screws for the meteor 65? I lost one and can't find what size they are.
Can you still fly in stability mode with the fc flipped?
yes
@@AlbertKimTV that's a relief. Planning to do this not knowing how to fly acro haha.
Cool video so if I want the pusher config to be a props out config, I have to 1. Have a props in config normally before the flip in orientation and 2. also keep betaflight props reversed tab unchecked after the flip orientation? I wanna do this right now lol
Not sure if that will work so check your motor direction when it's flipped over. It also needs to match what is in Betaflight otherwise it will go crazy when you arm it.
You could make a bouncy plate with a little bit of that foam and plastic milk bottle screwed on. Wouldnt add much weight either and protect the flight controller i have the metero65 pro elrs and im thinking of doing this to mine. Anyone tried running 450mah batteries
Also 0802 motors in a metero65 pro and 450mah battery? Thoughts?
In my more recent videos, you'll see I've added foam to the bottom to protect the FC when landing. Here's a recent example... ruclips.net/video/941_9Dht9Ig/видео.html
Awesome.
Did you find that the pusher actually performs any better? Pusher seems much more noisy and seems to have worse flight times which is unintuitive. Maybe it has something to do with how the ducts are tapered, and with the props being too low to get optimal use of the ducts.
Would be great to have a whoop frame design from the start for pusher.
Noise is about the same and so is the flight time. The whoop does seem more locked in and more in control in the pusher configuration. There's plenty of people who have never flown this setup and just pass around a lot of misinformation online and you seem to have fallen into this trap.
@@AlbertKimTV Interesting, thanks for the reply! I actually just converted my mobeetle into a pusher and was surprised that it seemed more noisy as I was expecting it to be much more 'smooth' due to the less obstructed airflow. I did flip the props also so the only thing I could think of being the issue is that the ducts are doing less 'shaping' of the air flow since the props are now closer to the duct exit. Maybe I was just expecting a bigger difference.
He invented a tinyhawk in the future
0.o, love it; was thinking about doing this myself.
I like experiments like this :) I also like to try out new variants. I'm currently working on a 2inch quad ...
Beides i noticed during the conversion from mobula 6 to Meteor65 frame that the flight time was shortened by 10-15sec !?! Tested with 8 different 300mAh batteries.
I wonder if you will have similar experiences Albert !!!
I have not done any scientific testing but I feel like flight times are more, not less.
@@AlbertKimTV
Then it was probably something else !
Thank you for the feedback :)
I would buy this.
😎
sir can you still fly it in stability mode?
Yes, of course
How do you configure orientation of motors?
You have to adjust the motor direction in BLHeli Suite. Also remap the motors in Betaflight CLI because they will be in the wrong spots when inverted. I mentioned this at the end of the video. There are various general tutorials on how to do these changes all over RUclips.
How do you connect your meteor 75 lite to computer?
How about the tinyhawk frame v1 frame ?
That's for a completely different design and not applicable to the Meteor65
Good to know , thank you A.K.
very smart, looks great, put it into production :-)
eat your heart out tinyhawk.. 😎 tis is cool simple looking low profile whoop racer.. to me.. 😘
Do a regular meteor 65 with 0603 19000kv motor. And test which one has longer flight time.
Love it.
Does it work whit meteor 75
You can probably get it to work on that one too. It just might be slightly different in the setup.
I would call it a Metehawk65 :-) Great job ^_^^
Does that glue say that it's *Acrylic Glue?* I know there is a glue stick made with Acrylic glue that remains flexible. Could that be it? *Search for Surebonder H-810R glue stick.* Great build and awesome idea, well done Big Al!
I actually don't have the packaging anymore... It's like 15 year old glue sticks. I'm not even certain it's sold anymore but I suspect it probably is in some form or another.
@@AlbertKimTV - Well, I would bet money on the Surebonder H-810R glue stick being a good choice for this solution. However, there are probably dozens of others out there...lol
That’s not a pusher it’s still a puller just on the other end of the prop center
Smart
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Dope
Albert. Bruh.. I haven't motors resources /remapped proper..my board alignment seems correcy..Interest that when I go into then set up tab and physically pitch roll and yaw the model in headlight matches.. But when I plug a
In amd.throttle up the quad won't take off. Motors are spinning but it's likened you have motors spinning t he Bering way... If appreciate any help you could give me
Yeah, it's well explained in the video. However, it's understandable that you're confused and just didn't it incorrectly. If the quad orientation is correct as you have mentioned, then the problem is either the motors are not in the correct location, the motors are spinning the wrong way, or the props are on the motors incorrectly. You'll have to troubleshoot which one this is. I can't tell anything else from here.
@Albert Kim hey buddy.. T thanks for taking the time out to answer. Full have to forgive my lack of skill and knowledge hete...the extent of technical knowledge I do have is limited to repairing multi channel transmission systems in the US Army. All the quad stuff is self taught. From watching you and Bardwell. I did manage to sort of figure it out. I have.Full control over the quad .with the e exception of altitude! It just will not leave t he groumd. I now have a meteor 65 Hovercraft...lol I'll update you if configure that one out . Thank you for your content ...I love your contribution to the community..it wouldn't be the same with out you buddy
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