I quite agree - I’m seeing a lot of this channel’s videos popping up in my feed and have watched at least 3 today. I’m liking it more and more. It sounds as if the narrator is a pilot and he explains everything very well, without being longwinded. I do wonder if the viewers realise that conversations with ATC are nowhere near as steady paced and clear as he portrays them though 😊!
This is simply marvellous. Brilliantly written. Magnificently detailed and a stellar voice cast. The voice work by Gavaroc and Paul in particular make it sound and feel like the original air crash investigation episode that I remember seeing as a kid. Fabulous work 3 Greens.
Your reports and presentation get better and better, this is a truly terrible incident and the captain is critically unaware of the situation he is getting into. sad and tragic.
This is one of the air accidents that impresses me the most. Very good recreation. But there is a piece of info which was missed. The ATC in Cali approach did not have a functional radar to follow the plain so it had to rely on the crew to communicate the position of the plain. To add to that the ATC communicated in assumptions and was not telling the crue exactly what he wants them to do, especially regarding the VORs. For an English speaker a sentence like "direct Rozo; report Tulua" is confuzing and contradictory. Especially since it was suggesting to the captain a complete change of the routine regarding the landing in Cali. It was not clear for the captain that although they could land fallowing a new trajectory (without turning before landing) the VORs still had to be followed. And the ATC assumed the captain did understand that (although it was him proposing the route change), the captain remembered that there was no radar in Cali, knows very well how to land in Cali, having a FO who knows all these things very well and both understanding his way of saying things to the crew. A bit to many assumptions...
Great video. I fly MSFS2020 in VR and leaving the speed brake on is a frequent occurrence as a casual simulation flyer. It’s easy to get caught up in the workload of setting up for approach and landing. I also ask the question why can’t we’ll-equipped airplanes perform automatic avoidance procedures when flying into obstacles with delayed pilot response? Once the first GPWS was alerted, the plane could have retracted speed brake and go full power. Computers are pretty powerful today.
I think it is pretty dangerous to override a pilots commands in a situation where the GPWS comes on. But it is also dangerous to let the pilot do this. No ide
Due to this exact accident the new automation does just that...if you have speed brakes extended for fast descent, and you suddenly add high engine power and pull up on the pitch as in terrain avoidance manuever, the speed brakes are automatically retracted to stop the excessive drag so the aircraft can climb faster.
Yeah, and even more remarkable for 1995 that the pilots of the B757-200 did not have/use GPS to check their position, as GPS was invented in the mid-1970s and was certified on airplanes in 1983. GPS didn't have 24 satellites until 1994. Sad that this disaster had multiple preventable events lead to the crash itself. While planes are the safest mode of transportation, landings are the most dangerous part of flying. But even still, landing is much safer compared to the drive to the airport. RIP to the passengers and crew aboard American 965. It is impressive that four folks made it out alive.
I would expect it to be, for all intents and purposes _instinctual_ to immediately think about nearby terrain the moment you lose your bearings (and quickly climb before you get to said terrain...or get distracted/forget). ...I guess you could certainly get too distracted and overwhelmed by the high pressure environment, however. This stuff is, no joke on the level of a schizoid fugitive holding a pistol to you and yelling: *"WHAT'S 239 x 378?!?!"* The pressure of getting lost in a jet going a few hundred MPH--in the clouds--at night--near terrain-wo0uld actually be in that ballpark....its 100% do or die-right then, and completely out of nowhere from the crew's perspective.
Language had nothing to do with it. All international ATC personel are trained in English if it's not their native language, and are tested to confirm. The range of topics is concrete and limited, they're not discussing Shakespeare. The crew had totally lost situational awareness, and should have broken off the approach earlier and lined up for a second attempt.
When I am driving my car using a gps navigator, I have better situation awareness than this so called captain. No surprise that the end was so gruesome.
They didn’t delete a way point . They dialed the first up on the list which should have been the correct way point . But the technology was new and there were to waypoints labeled the same . It took them toward bogota and they actually made it over the mountain. They misses surviving by less that 3 feet . The treetops were sucked up into the engines and then they lost lift and landed on the backside. .obviously they were over confident in their plane
They did delete the Tulua and Rozo way points and then tried to reenter only Rozo. But in my opinion the confusion started due to the way in which the ATC was communicating by assumptions without stating clearly what exactly he wanted the crew to do. In the context of him not having an available radar.
the production quality on this channel only ever goes up
I quite agree - I’m seeing a lot of this channel’s videos popping up in my feed and have watched at least 3 today. I’m liking it more and more. It sounds as if the narrator is a pilot and he explains everything very well, without being longwinded. I do wonder if the viewers realise that conversations with ATC are nowhere near as steady paced and clear as he portrays them though 😊!
Unlike the planes, amirite?
The captain had a very comfy voice, made me sad when they crashed.
I don’t think that was actually his voice, normally someone does a voice over for these videos
This is simply marvellous. Brilliantly written. Magnificently detailed and a stellar voice cast. The voice work by Gavaroc and Paul in particular make it sound and feel like the original air crash investigation episode that I remember seeing as a kid. Fabulous work 3 Greens.
Your reports and presentation get better and better, this is a truly terrible incident and the captain is critically unaware of the situation he is getting into. sad and tragic.
Awesome video, your production and breakdown is incredible. Keep doing what you're doing!
Much appreciated!
An excellent summation of what happened. On the Embraer 170/ 190 the speedbrakes stow if you put the power up- likely as a result of this accident.
Been missing your uploads. Totally worth the wait. Well done...as always!! I know a lot of time and effort go into your productions, so thank you!!!
Much appreciated!
This is one of the air accidents that impresses me the most. Very good recreation.
But there is a piece of info which was missed. The ATC in Cali approach did not have a functional radar to follow the plain so it had to rely on the crew to communicate the position of the plain.
To add to that the ATC communicated in assumptions and was not telling the crue exactly what he wants them to do, especially regarding the VORs. For an English speaker a sentence like "direct Rozo; report Tulua" is confuzing and contradictory. Especially since it was suggesting to the captain a complete change of the routine regarding the landing in Cali. It was not clear for the captain that although they could land fallowing a new trajectory (without turning before landing) the VORs still had to be followed. And the ATC assumed the captain did understand that (although it was him proposing the route change), the captain remembered that there was no radar in Cali, knows very well how to land in Cali, having a FO who knows all these things very well and both understanding his way of saying things to the crew. A bit to many assumptions...
Great video. I fly MSFS2020 in VR and leaving the speed brake on is a frequent occurrence as a casual simulation flyer. It’s easy to get caught up in the workload of setting up for approach and landing. I also ask the question why can’t we’ll-equipped airplanes perform automatic avoidance procedures when flying into obstacles with delayed pilot response? Once the first GPWS was alerted, the plane could have retracted speed brake and go full power. Computers are pretty powerful today.
I think it is pretty dangerous to override a pilots commands in a situation where the GPWS comes on. But it is also dangerous to let the pilot do this. No ide
Due to this exact accident the new automation does just that...if you have speed brakes extended for fast descent, and you suddenly add high engine power and pull up on the pitch as in terrain avoidance manuever, the speed brakes are automatically retracted to stop the excessive drag so the aircraft can climb faster.
wow its remarkable just how quickly an approach can take so many wrong turns
Yeah, and even more remarkable for 1995 that the pilots of the B757-200 did not have/use GPS to check their position, as GPS was invented in the mid-1970s and was certified on airplanes in 1983. GPS didn't have 24 satellites until 1994. Sad that this disaster had multiple preventable events lead to the crash itself. While planes are the safest mode of transportation, landings are the most dangerous part of flying. But even still, landing is much safer compared to the drive to the airport. RIP to the passengers and crew aboard American 965. It is impressive that four folks made it out alive.
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I truly enjoy all aspects of your productions, especially the cadence of your speech. So good to see a new video, thank you!
That was horrifying.
So well done - thank you.
Enjoying your videos. I've watched almost all of the videos from Green Dot Aviation and Mentour Pilot and Mentour Now.
How could 4 people possibly survive?
exactly what i was wondering...
The voice acting is really good!
Nice to see green Dot aviation
Great quality as usual
I feel like all possible approaches should be loaded into the FMC, so they can just "switch over" rather than have to load them in.
But you can only ever have two?
Such an avoidable disaster 😢
Great job as ever..
This captain.
Wow
I would expect it to be, for all intents and purposes _instinctual_ to immediately think about nearby terrain the moment you lose your bearings (and quickly climb before you get to said terrain...or get distracted/forget).
...I guess you could certainly get too distracted and overwhelmed by the high pressure environment, however. This stuff is, no joke on the level of a schizoid fugitive holding a pistol to you and yelling: *"WHAT'S 239 x 378?!?!"*
The pressure of getting lost in a jet going a few hundred MPH--in the clouds--at night--near terrain-wo0uld actually be in that ballpark....its 100% do or die-right then, and completely out of nowhere from the crew's perspective.
Language had nothing to do with it. All international ATC personel are trained in English if it's not their native language, and are tested to confirm. The range of topics is concrete and limited, they're not discussing Shakespeare.
The crew had totally lost situational awareness, and should have broken off the approach earlier and lined up for a second attempt.
Good video and you are best youtuber ever. Can you do more active videos.
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Good video
17:32 Cappy fucked up
When I am driving my car using a gps navigator, I have better situation awareness than this so called captain. No surprise that the end was so gruesome.
This captain was hopeless…
They didn’t delete a way point . They dialed the first up on the list which should have been the correct way point . But the technology was new and there were to waypoints labeled the same . It took them toward bogota and they actually made it over the mountain. They misses surviving by less that 3 feet . The treetops were sucked up into the engines and then they lost lift and landed on the backside. .obviously they were over confident in their plane
They did delete the Tulua and Rozo way points and then tried to reenter only Rozo. But in my opinion the confusion started due to the way in which the ATC was communicating by assumptions without stating clearly what exactly he wanted the crew to do. In the context of him not having an available radar.
Set speed at 1.25x and he sounds normal
Yeah. Now sound is normal.