I couldn't tell if you were gonna choose Palmer, Riley or Buck for champion. All of them would have been good but Palmer is definitely the best choice thanks to the Barry connection
I think Volkners position swap kinda makes him like Kabu from Galar Being so strong that just beating him is almost as impressive as getting all 8 badges
I feel like him being mid way through the game he’s less likely to feel as he does when he’s 8th. As the final gym leader you don’t have to hold back as much so it can’t get boring if no one can keep up but as the 5th you have plenty of room to teach so he would be more active in ever match.
Tbh I’d say Magmortar -> Magmar, YES roserade is fully evolved too, but It’s really not that good, with very bad level up moves, Magmortar very much IS, I still see how you need a strong ace so Magmar would definitely work Edit: also Magmortar wouldn’t be accessible at this point of the game fkers
Wdym by not that good roserade was literally OU on its introduction And If we consider magmortar As a replacement for an ace of t&e 2 gym leader It doesn't learn anything amazing at lvl 22 either
@@laxusstrauss5945 The problem is that not only would that Magmotar be illegal (Magby doesn't evolve into Magmar until level 30), Roserade had a BST of 515 in gen 4, while Magmortar has a BST of 540... so Magmortar would be pretty much unbeatable at this point in the game... especially if you take into account the earlier routes in the game as well and you barely have any Magmortar counters if you didn't choose Piplup.
It feels like Volkner would be more a challenge than Candice, seeing as his team has all fully evolved Pokemon. Id probably evolve her Sneasel into a Weavile and give her a Mamoswine or Glaceon to help her team not get swept so easily
Would’ve been great to have given Gardenia a Pokémon with drought to start off and replicate a bit of the “questionable” (they made sense in a technical term) choices from the last game but overall great choices dude
You are aware that Roserade's BST was 505 in Gen IV (and 515 starting Gen VI), while Magmortar's is 540. I could agree with giving him a Magmar (BST 495), which is much fairer and closer to Roserade's.
Magmortar is impossible to obtain at a lower level of the game since Magby evolves into Marmar at lvl 30... so you mean we'll have to face a second gym below 20's lvl then face a lvl 30 Magmortar? Not because Gardenia gets a fully evolve pokemon also means that Flint should get one too... especially one that evolves mid to late game... you can get a Roserade as low as lvl 2 because Budew evolves via high friendship and level up once then Roselia to Roserade using a shiny stone...
God I thought I was the only one that pronounced Gallade's name like that before I said it correctly, that brought in some sweet memories that's for sure. 😂
How about Tangrowth instead of Bellossom for Gardenia? It also has access to Chlorophyll but was introduced in Sinnoh. Also, Tangrowth base stats are much better haha
Superb, was looking forward to the Sinnoh roster and this proved a fun one. Nice choices on how the leaders would adjust their teams :) Interested in how Unova and Kalos will be approached, since their E4 can be fought in any order. Alternate takes, or a preference? Should be fun musing either way
It's interesting how Gardenia and Flint parallel each other in a way...they both specialize in types that benefit from the sun, use starter pokemon, and their aces are new Gen 4 final evolutions of pokemon from past generations. That and they both literally swap roles in your video...Flint is now the second gym leader in place of Gardenia, while Gardenia is now the third E4 member in Flint's place. Flint now uses three pokemon like Gardenia did as a gym leader, while Gardenia now uses five like Flint did as an E4 member. Side note: I feel like everyone should be using pokemon that are WITHIN the regional Sinnoh dex, with Palmer being the striking exception. But that's just me. Heck to further parallel Gardenia and Flint further for the fun of it, I'd personally replace one of her non-Sinnoh dex pokemon with Leafeon...an eeveelution on the third E4 member's team like Flint did in his Platinum E4 team. That and I'd replace the other non-Sinnoh dex pokemon with maybe Tangrowth, at least it's another pokemon in her team of five in the Sinnoh dex. XD
For the gym leaders and elite 4 of Unova can you allow them access to both the B2w2 and blueberry Pokédexes it would help suit them better and gives them variety
Wait. If Palmer is the new Sinnoh champion does that means Riley is replacing him at the battle Frontier or does he goes back to it after we beat him? And boi is his team a menace, damn! Also, i personally think you missed the opportunity to give Gardenia and Candice Leafeon and Glaceon respectively, but this doesn't makes then less of a powerful do neither so who cares? (Me, i care. Also i don't recall Victreebel been on Sinnoh, i might be wrong but i'm pretty sure it ins't and it's kinda pointless when you have Tangrowth which is way more fitting and is more of a threat. Just saying.)
@@Xatumi Why? Like, it's literally the point of playing Sinnoh games is seen fitting new challenges, characters and pokemon. Bro, and it would make Gardenia's "new team" at least tough. Also, i forgot to mention that Lucian could at least have a Abra cuz in the Sinnoh games the first gymleader aways has three pokemon and Abra's lack of moves could help out balacing Bronzor's early bulkness and giving just a bit of extra challenge since his only damage move will be the gym's TM. But anyways, don't let people rule you that much. RUclips channels are made for fun, and even if the current subs don't enjoy your content, others will. Keep with the good job bro!😉👍
@@leonardooberdadealmeidamon2305 Mine Jr might be more fitting to his described strategy, while a Gym Trainer uses an Abra with bad moves. Maybe that could even lead to Reflect being the Gym's TM?
Shouldn't Lucian have a team of 3 Pokemon for this concept like Roark does originally? I'd probably go with Mime Jr to have a mono Psychic type (in that gen) on the team that fits his strategy and isn't too overwhelmingly powerful like Abra with a Gym leader moverset might be (or too weak if not given the right moves, so might be good for one of the Gym Trainers to use). And it's another Gen 4 mon to better make up for his Gen 2 ace.
It is heavily implied there is a connection between Agatha and Bertha. They have similar Japanese names. They have similar appearances to each other and Charm (from PLA). Speaking of Charm, she uses Rhydon and Gengar which are from the same families as the aces of Bertha and Agatha.
I'm confused as for Gardenias team 🤔 I don't know if it applies to the other gym leaders but her having a Bellossom and Victreebel rubs me the wrong way...are they on the Plat dex?
I couldn't tell if you were gonna choose Palmer, Riley or Buck for champion. All of them would have been good but Palmer is definitely the best choice thanks to the Barry connection
I think Volkners position swap kinda makes him like Kabu from Galar
Being so strong that just beating him is almost as impressive as getting all 8 badges
I feel like him being mid way through the game he’s less likely to feel as he does when he’s 8th.
As the final gym leader you don’t have to hold back as much so it can’t get boring if no one can keep up but as the 5th you have plenty of room to teach so he would be more active in ever match.
That first Candace art tho, holy crap
Tbh I’d say Magmortar -> Magmar, YES roserade is fully evolved too, but It’s really not that good, with very bad level up moves, Magmortar very much IS, I still see how you need a strong ace so Magmar would definitely work
Edit: also Magmortar wouldn’t be accessible at this point of the game fkers
Wdym by not that good roserade was literally OU on its introduction
And If we consider magmortar As a replacement for an ace of t&e 2 gym leader
It doesn't learn anything amazing at lvl 22 either
@@laxusstrauss5945 The problem is that not only would that Magmotar be illegal (Magby doesn't evolve into Magmar until level 30), Roserade had a BST of 515 in gen 4, while Magmortar has a BST of 540... so Magmortar would be pretty much unbeatable at this point in the game... especially if you take into account the earlier routes in the game as well and you barely have any Magmortar counters if you didn't choose Piplup.
Roserade was Ou in Gen 4, meanwhile Magmortar is Nu in Gen 4. Also, Magmortar is slower than the Bouquet Pokémon.
But what if it was 👀
@@Xatumi still, I’d definitely say Magmar would work better
It feels like Volkner would be more a challenge than Candice, seeing as his team has all fully evolved Pokemon.
Id probably evolve her Sneasel into a Weavile and give her a Mamoswine or Glaceon to help her team not get swept so easily
Your channel showed up on my feed just two days ago and I’ve gone back to watch all of your videos. Love your content!
Can’t wait for Unova 😊
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
Would’ve been great to have given Gardenia a Pokémon with drought to start off and replicate a bit of the “questionable” (they made sense in a technical term) choices from the last game but overall great choices dude
Neither of the Grass types have drought
You are aware that Roserade's BST was 505 in Gen IV (and 515 starting Gen VI), while Magmortar's is 540. I could agree with giving him a Magmar (BST 495), which is much fairer and closer to Roserade's.
No
@@celestedescieux2514 damn our definition of effort is wildly different but sure 👍🏽
1:40 I just gotta remind you here that Magmortar is A LOT STRONGER than Roserade
Roserade's BST is 515 and Magmortar's is 540
Do full team spread
Hii XatumiKO! Love all the vids! :D
Magmortar is impossible to obtain at a lower level of the game since Magby evolves into Marmar at lvl 30... so you mean we'll have to face a second gym below 20's lvl then face a lvl 30 Magmortar? Not because Gardenia gets a fully evolve pokemon also means that Flint should get one too... especially one that evolves mid to late game... you can get a Roserade as low as lvl 2 because Budew evolves via high friendship and level up once then Roselia to Roserade using a shiny stone...
Nah its a lv 21 magmortar, flint has it on a special diet
You say that as if we havent had previous gym leaders in game evolve before their proper level
Cough valley windworks prugly cough
Even if Gardenia has a Roserade in my opinion it’s not necessary to give a Magmortar to a second gymleader
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8:11 I gotta say, if she leads with Cherim, she is done for 🔥
God I thought I was the only one that pronounced Gallade's name like that before I said it correctly, that brought in some sweet memories that's for sure. 😂
thats awesome
I mean Cynthia was always a (overrared) walk in the palk anyways. xD
The jokes this time around 😂
Loving this series more and more with each installment.
I wantto make one too
Lucian - MimeJr(12) Ralts(12) Bronzor(14)
Flint - Magby(20), Ponyta(20), Monferno(22)
Bertha- Hippopotas(27), Golem(27), Gliscor(30)
Aaron - Beautifly(29), Skorupi(29), Vespiquen(32)
Volkner- Raichu(33), Jolteon(34), Luxray(37)
Candice - Weavile(37), Frosslass(38), Abomasnow(41)
Byron - Bronzong(40), Steelix(42), Bastiodon(44)
Fantina - Gengar(46), Drifblim(46), Mismagius(48), Dusknoir(50)
Crasher wake - Ludicolo, Quagsire, Milotic, Gyarados, Floatzel
Maylene - Medicham, Gallade, Machamp, Toxicroak, Lucario
Gardenia - Cherrim, Leafeon, Cacturne, Torterra, Roserade
Roark - Golem, Steelix, Probopass, Aerodactyl, Rampardos
Awesome! 🤩
Candice didn't use Weavile as 7th Gym Leader why would she use it as the 6th? A lot of your choices are good.
7:37
Erika in the reversed league:
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My favorite part of these videos is trying to guess who the champion is gonna be
that makes me happy! 💖
@@Xatumi Palmer was a fantastic choice 😁
Heck yeah Gardenia is an E4. Grass type finally gets a specialist in the E4 arena. 😂
Erika in the reversed league:
@@forgottenetremembered oh my bad. I guess I favor sinnoh gym members and elite 4 more than Kanto. 🤣
@@jacobdeweil3553 It's ok
I'm sorry A-a-ron?
Dude wants to be Keegan Michael Key
I lowkey would’ve thought Barry would be champion since he is the very first AI trainer rival battle
How about Tangrowth instead of Bellossom for Gardenia? It also has access to Chlorophyll but was introduced in Sinnoh. Also, Tangrowth base stats are much better haha
Omg im so early! Really love the videos 💖
Morning!
You did not just freaking say Gah-la-dé. What the heck.
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Superb, was looking forward to the Sinnoh roster and this proved a fun one. Nice choices on how the leaders would adjust their teams :)
Interested in how Unova and Kalos will be approached, since their E4 can be fought in any order. Alternate takes, or a preference? Should be fun musing either way
😮 definitely gonna be an interesting video.
It's interesting how Gardenia and Flint parallel each other in a way...they both specialize in types that benefit from the sun, use starter pokemon, and their aces are new Gen 4 final evolutions of pokemon from past generations.
That and they both literally swap roles in your video...Flint is now the second gym leader in place of Gardenia, while Gardenia is now the third E4 member in Flint's place. Flint now uses three pokemon like Gardenia did as a gym leader, while Gardenia now uses five like Flint did as an E4 member.
Side note: I feel like everyone should be using pokemon that are WITHIN the regional Sinnoh dex, with Palmer being the striking exception. But that's just me.
Heck to further parallel Gardenia and Flint further for the fun of it, I'd personally replace one of her non-Sinnoh dex pokemon with Leafeon...an eeveelution on the third E4 member's team like Flint did in his Platinum E4 team. That and I'd replace the other non-Sinnoh dex pokemon with maybe Tangrowth, at least it's another pokemon in her team of five in the Sinnoh dex. XD
The Eevee is definitely another great parallel!
Why did we replace the Uber hatching ace with the puny nu regigigas? Heatran would of been an acceptable downgrade
Uber garchomp
Palmer would still be about the same as Cynthia, possibly even easier, lol
For the gym leaders and elite 4 of Unova can you allow them access to both the B2w2 and blueberry Pokédexes it would help suit them better and gives them variety
Wait. If Palmer is the new Sinnoh champion does that means Riley is replacing him at the battle Frontier or does he goes back to it after we beat him? And boi is his team a menace, damn!
Also, i personally think you missed the opportunity to give Gardenia and Candice Leafeon and Glaceon respectively, but this doesn't makes then less of a powerful do neither so who cares? (Me, i care. Also i don't recall Victreebel been on Sinnoh, i might be wrong but i'm pretty sure it ins't and it's kinda pointless when you have Tangrowth which is way more fitting and is more of a threat. Just saying.)
I didbefore with my what if all gym leaders were champions series and people DID NOT LIKE THAT lol but i did😭
@@Xatumi Why? Like, it's literally the point of playing Sinnoh games is seen fitting new challenges, characters and pokemon. Bro, and it would make Gardenia's "new team" at least tough.
Also, i forgot to mention that Lucian could at least have a Abra cuz in the Sinnoh games the first gymleader aways has three pokemon and Abra's lack of moves could help out balacing Bronzor's early bulkness and giving just a bit of extra challenge since his only damage move will be the gym's TM.
But anyways, don't let people rule you that much. RUclips channels are made for fun, and even if the current subs don't enjoy your content, others will. Keep with the good job bro!😉👍
@@leonardooberdadealmeidamon2305 will do thanks a ton!
My head canon is that Palmer was the Sinnoh Champion before Cynthia, so this alternate scenario works for me.
@@leonardooberdadealmeidamon2305 Mine Jr might be more fitting to his described strategy, while a Gym Trainer uses an Abra with bad moves. Maybe that could even lead to Reflect being the Gym's TM?
I beat Palmer after 20 battles in the brilliant battle tower….but then lost the very next battle :/
Shouldn't Lucian have a team of 3 Pokemon for this concept like Roark does originally? I'd probably go with Mime Jr to have a mono Psychic type (in that gen) on the team that fits his strategy and isn't too overwhelmingly powerful like Abra with a Gym leader moverset might be (or too weak if not given the right moves, so might be good for one of the Gym Trainers to use). And it's another Gen 4 mon to better make up for his Gen 2 ace.
yeah I think I should have added an extra on like abra
Is it wrong that I thought the first guy was will from gen 2 lol they look alot alike Bertha also reminds me of agatha
It is heavily implied there is a connection between Agatha and Bertha. They have similar Japanese names. They have similar appearances to each other and Charm (from PLA). Speaking of Charm, she uses Rhydon and Gengar which are from the same families as the aces of Bertha and Agatha.
@@scizoreon4068 I thought there was canon dialogue somewhere that said they were sisters or something? Can't remember for sure.
I'm confused as for Gardenias team 🤔 I don't know if it applies to the other gym leaders but her having a Bellossom and Victreebel rubs me the wrong way...are they on the Plat dex?
yes sinnoh is my favorit
You should show the names of the artists of the art you show
I thought Mindy would be the champ with all her pokemon are pokemons that evolve through trade.
And of course another Rock elite four
Hey take it up with GameFreak
@@Xatumi oh I wrote them a heated letter already. It is not your fault that they put them in the 1st gym
DUDE F*CK THIS GAME IF THE GAME GABE FLINT A MAGMORTAR AT THE SECOND GYM.
Breathe 🧘
@@Xatumi 😮💨🥱
I still think magmortar is to strong
Candice and gardenia should have leafeon and glaceon
I couldn’t get more than two minutes into this video because his mispronunciations were pissing me off 💀
Sounds like a you problem 🤷🏽♂️
They’re jokes.
He’s showing his humor.
That sucks that it isn’t for you because I laughed my ass off.
Keep it up @XatumiKO !!!
Ga laa dey
Damn, Aaron looks so handsome 😋
My fave E4 since the day I saw him 😍 AND bug user? ❤
First like
I agree with @valentin4561