The best thing about a laptop stand is that the screen is lifted up to a better height. It's a much more pleasant experience, and will result in less neck strain.
I'd just gotten a stand for my work's business laptop (work from home), because the cooler for the i5-8350U sounded like a vacuum cleaner, the very least it's quietened it down now air can actually get under it. would've liked to see some noise and temperature figures
I wonder how much more performance you would get if you had one of those laptop stands with those build in fans on them, think that would make a nice video too :)
Great to know i don't really need the stand for my laptop. Daily driver is still a desktop, however I do use my laptop as a server for minecraft and also for some light gaming during my desktop is busy with long renders.
Good info! I'm finishing up a similar project, but I modified the cooler to run 12V fans off of USBPD pins. We'll know soon just how far you can get with brute force lol. I rcently got a Precision workstation for work. It has a 45W i9 11950H and a Quadro T1200 GPU. According to HWINFO the max TDP for the T1200 is 95W and I believe it. The machine gets uncomfortably hot within a matter of minutes when plugged into it's 330W brick and set to "Ultra-Performance Mode". It noticeably throttles while runners compite tasks you don't change the default power profile.
Now you should add in an actively cooled stand. Or a few different actively cooled stands, as some do perform better (or worse) than others. And by worse I mean that some can produce negative results. This of course will depend on the laptop itself, due to how the air is pulled in, and how the flow of the stand affects it.
I use an old-school laptop forced-air cooler. basically it's a tray that the laptop sits on that has fans built in forcing air from the sides & bottom of the tray through the bottom of the laptop, and those fans draw power from a USB port. Old thing from the mid 2000's.
If you would want to make a similar video in the future then there's a few things I would want you to look at. 1. Fan noise. 2. Comparison between different fan speeds. 3. Longer benchmark that stresses the CPU and GPU to look at the sustainable performance. I think there can be two questions that can be answered. a) can I get similar performance as keeping the laptop on desk for much less noise? b) can a laptop stand help keep the laptop at full tilt for longer periods of time?
I propped up my M16 on the steepest grade on the stand so the laptop is almost vertical.That way i can push the screen at its furthest back, my idea is that it can help divert the exhaust at the back from hitting the bottom part of the screen
I watched a presentation from a CLEVO engineer and he spent some time discussing coolongm Youd be surprised how much R&D goes into the cooling solution.... especially the back cover of the laptop which doubles as an air duct.
I partially open the screen and stand my laptop vertically, with a USB-C dock to a monitor. Keeps it much quieter. Then when traveling I use the power brick to prop up the back. Gaming with it directly on a table gets way too loud in demanding games.
What about temps/frequency improvement? I know they'll be specific to this laptop but in the review for example you mentioned the keyboard deck being too hot. does it change when its propped up like that?
Great point, I should have included that! Yes, the keyboard temps did improve to the point it was bearable (and got worse on the blanket), although the performance ends up telling the majority of the story thanks to the dynamic clock speeds of both the CPU and GPU.
i use a laptop stand made by myself ofc because the temps ... flat i have 98 on CPU and around 85 on GPU and lifted my cpu is on 80-85 temp and GPU around 75-80 if u scared ur laptop will explode lift it alot with something u have at home
I should have talked specifically about that in the video, but the reason it was omitted was that, thanks to the dynamic clock speeds, the temperatures were functionally identical, only the performance changed.
This laptop already has very good clearance. This would be far more interesting with a laptop with bad clearance. Would probably get much more different results. 1:36
you should of focus on temperature instead of performance................ temperature is crucial on gaming laptop more so than performance, running lifted would be so much better for breathing air in
The best thing about a laptop stand is that the screen is lifted up to a better height. It's a much more pleasant experience, and will result in less neck strain.
Yes, they're a must have for long durations.
I'd just gotten a stand for my work's business laptop (work from home), because the cooler for the i5-8350U sounded like a vacuum cleaner, the very least it's quietened it down now air can actually get under it. would've liked to see some noise and temperature figures
I wonder how much more performance you would get if you had one of those laptop stands with those build in fans on them, think that would make a nice video too :)
Great to know i don't really need the stand for my laptop. Daily driver is still a desktop, however I do use my laptop as a server for minecraft and also for some light gaming during my desktop is busy with long renders.
Good info! I'm finishing up a similar project, but I modified the cooler to run 12V fans off of USBPD pins. We'll know soon just how far you can get with brute force lol.
I rcently got a Precision workstation for work. It has a 45W i9 11950H and a Quadro T1200 GPU. According to HWINFO the max TDP for the T1200 is 95W and I believe it. The machine gets uncomfortably hot within a matter of minutes when plugged into it's 330W brick and set to "Ultra-Performance Mode". It noticeably throttles while runners compite tasks you don't change the default power profile.
Temperature need time to build up by heat
Longer workload then the laptop and the surface below get warm then then different is showed
Now you should add in an actively cooled stand. Or a few different actively cooled stands, as some do perform better (or worse) than others. And by worse I mean that some can produce negative results. This of course will depend on the laptop itself, due to how the air is pulled in, and how the flow of the stand affects it.
Got a good laugh from the title.
I've stupidity been running my laptop flat on my desk for 2 years. It's 20 c cooler propped up. I'm getting 30+ more fps on most of my games now.
I use an old-school laptop forced-air cooler. basically it's a tray that the laptop sits on that has fans built in forcing air from the sides & bottom of the tray through the bottom of the laptop, and those fans draw power from a USB port. Old thing from the mid 2000's.
If you would want to make a similar video in the future then there's a few things I would want you to look at.
1. Fan noise.
2. Comparison between different fan speeds.
3. Longer benchmark that stresses the CPU and GPU to look at the sustainable performance.
I think there can be two questions that can be answered.
a) can I get similar performance as keeping the laptop on desk for much less noise?
b) can a laptop stand help keep the laptop at full tilt for longer periods of time?
I propped up my M16 on the steepest grade on the stand so the laptop is almost vertical.That way i can push the screen at its furthest back, my idea is that it can help divert the exhaust at the back from hitting the bottom part of the screen
I watched a presentation from a CLEVO engineer and he spent some time discussing coolongm Youd be surprised how much R&D goes into the cooling solution.... especially the back cover of the laptop which doubles as an air duct.
I partially open the screen and stand my laptop vertically, with a USB-C dock to a monitor. Keeps it much quieter. Then when traveling I use the power brick to prop up the back. Gaming with it directly on a table gets way too loud in demanding games.
My laptop needs the screen to be opened the exhaust vents are only in between the hinges of the screen.
@@ssanc6 Good point, this hack won't work for all 👍
this very timely, i just bought a laptop stand!
Where's the temperature results?
Now add a fan and do this test again
I remember that in Russia we had a lot of laptop tabs with fans
What about temps/frequency improvement? I know they'll be specific to this laptop but in the review for example you mentioned the keyboard deck being too hot. does it change when its propped up like that?
Great point, I should have included that! Yes, the keyboard temps did improve to the point it was bearable (and got worse on the blanket), although the performance ends up telling the majority of the story thanks to the dynamic clock speeds of both the CPU and GPU.
Would be nice to test thermals and fan noise - stand vs desk
Don't you just hate it when your laptop starts porpoising?
I just lift the back of my Aero 15 with an eraser that I cut in half
what about the keyboard temperature while it lifted up? does it lower compare to your previous video?
i use a laptop stand made by myself ofc because the temps ... flat i have 98 on CPU and around 85 on GPU and lifted my cpu is on 80-85 temp and GPU around 75-80 if u scared ur laptop will explode lift it alot with something u have at home
what about using a newspaper or a book as a hard surface on top of a blanket ? would it be similar to a flat desk ?
It's also better for your neck to use a laptop stand
Why? Just use a laptop stand on the blanket.@@hemendraravi4787
this could have soo better if we saw the temperature difference as well as the performance difference.
I should have talked specifically about that in the video, but the reason it was omitted was that, thanks to the dynamic clock speeds, the temperatures were functionally identical, only the performance changed.
@@TechteamGB u could have said that
So at what point does he mention what stand this is? If anyone knows please tell me.
Would have like to know the temp of the system on these test, would be interesting...
This laptop already has very good clearance. This would be far more interesting with a laptop with bad clearance. Would probably get much more different results. 1:36
Does lifting reduced overall temperature?
you should of focus on temperature instead of performance................ temperature is crucial on gaming laptop more so than performance, running lifted would be so much better for breathing air in
what stand can i get for my lenovo legion 7?? please he,p
thanks alot
I am thinking of buying this laptop with exact same specs. Have you checked how temp. changes on keyboard when laptop is lifted ?
You pointed out it as problem in one of your last videos. Just wanted to know if lifting makes things better for your hands...
But how do you use the keyboard?
What is the stand?
what about temps?