Amazing find! Glad to see it's working. I used to have a JVC HR-DVS1 which also had the TBC and NR functions, but in addition it could output the S-VHS signal direct through its FireWire port. And that is what I have considered to be the best machine for archiving. After seven years of intense use both decks (miniDV and S-VHS) stopped working and due to my lack of repair knowledge I threw it away when I moved to a new place. I utterly regret it now and sometimes I see refurbished ones for 800 to 1000 euros. I'm truly happy for you having this thing in working order, but watching this magnificent piece also hurts a bit...
Rendez-Vous Houston was still one of the best concerts that JMJ has given... and the track tributed to Ronald McNair (who was scheduled to perform live from space) was very touching. Still one of my favorite albums. The version with noise reduction looks awfully close to the DVD I have here.
Cool tool, make me drool. Hey Dave, popping in that tape of Jean M. Jarre brought back memories here in HOUSTON. It was publicized on radio and TV stations ahead of time. WOW, since videos were displayed on the sides of downtown building, search light towers, vast amounts of fireworks and loudspeakers as well as simulcast on radios..... it brought CROWDS of attendees as well as automobile on-lookers who stopped on the streets and FREEWAYS and brought traffic to a dead HALT for the show. I've never experienced a production like that and was glad to have been there IN PERSON. Thanks for the vid. JwgK
Nice video as usual .I enjoy listening to you explain the unit as you test/trouble shoot it. I have a jvc hrs-9900u which I have had since new circa 2002.The tbc and function is extremely useful when using the unit for archiving. The only problem I ever have had was the same as this one the loading belt had to be replaced due to slipping.thanks for the informative videos!!😀
I really like his running commentary, he's got a good voice for it as well. His mind is sharp as a tac and moves from deliberate topic to topic. Its kind of a legacy he's building here trying to teach or encourage people to learn and fend for themselves repairing all of the things he works on. i hope he never gets discouraged by all the trolls.
It amazing how they managed to keep refining VHS to the point not sure how many consumers were expecting this improvement. Today people is crazy on ultra super high HD ... back in these days ... But it doesnt look like a prosumer machine. ....
Lucky find! I was looking for a model with TBC last year and on ebay they go for a lot of money. So I settled on its lesser brother, the HR-S6800U, that does not have TBC but has similar build quality and is easy to find for garage sale prices
That’s a very nice score for $10.00! You said it yourself, good quality very well made, and for a machine that’s 19 years old, you just can’t go wrong. Nice find and nice fix.
Definitely fantastic shape. I get excited by my recent tech, but what I'm most proud of, personally, is maintaining operation of my machines from the 70's and earlier.
I remember this event that's on that tape. If this is the same one I think it is, you could see the fireworks from 20 miles away. Traffic was stopped on all the major freeways going into downtown. People just stopped and got out of their cars to watch the show. It was even simulcast on the radio.
That was a good score, My latest find was a Toshiba W625CG (with remote) for 10 bucks, looks barely used but I gave it a good clean, performs well, best machine I ever had.
In the last few days I was very happy to succesfully recommission my long dormant JVC HR-S6700 (UK PAL spec) which has the VHS ET jiggery pokery, but I want one of these now. The difference on the digital time base corrector is just fantastic! Doubt I'll get one for a tenner though.
Very nice score indeed. I have a BENQ 21 inch monitor I picked up at a yard sale for $5 some 15 years ago. Usually used with my game console but was used my laptop at one stage. I also have a Hitachi multi standard VHS VCR from a 2ndhand store for $5
Some of us have AG-1980s for those tapes that won't track in the JVCs for some stupid reason.... Anyway, the eject mech. on these was always kinda wimpy. Not having the dynamic drum is a good thing these days as the gears in them break and render an otherwise usable VCR non-functional. I have one DD unit here (HR-S7500U), but the power supply went "pop" one day when I plugged it in and now its dead. I can't find the fault as there is no obvious burn mark/damage on the board and the fuse in intact. It also needs a new reel brake. I got it on a trade, so I don't have much into it! It was a backup unit to my DVHS deck and HR-S7800U.
Currently, there are four of these units for sale on E-Bay and the lowest priced one starts at $499.95. That was one heck of a great bargain. Congrats !
This seems like a good example of building something down to a cost, and it actually benefiting the machine. Super simple, none of those "fancy" surface mount caps. Keep it simple, and there's less to go wrong!
Hooray for simplicity and sourcing mass produced cheap components for an excellent design. The plastic gears and rubber components worry me.. but its a stellar improvement over the alternative.
@@12voltvids I have to hand it to you for knowing intuitively the loader belt was most likely the problem with basket. I was thinking "mode switch" based on your previous videos.. or something more complex. I wondered what it was that made you think Loader belt.. experience with this model? or pure intuition?
I have a JVC HR -S6855 SVHS which I bought from Curry’s (now Curry’s PC World) here in the UK back in 2001 for about £200, brilliant machine with NTSC Playback on PAL TV, NICAM Stereo and Video Plus, it works virtually the same as the one you got there Dave, the cheapest VCR I bought at a Car Boot sale was a Sony machine with remote control for £2, another brilliant device
this is the best times for us to find great electronics like this, only people like us are over the moon when we find this stuff, that no one wants cause its to big! great find for 10 bucks.
About 5 years ago the local thrifts all had 10-50 VCRs on the shelf any given day and I got well over a dozen S-VHS-ET and S-VHS decks...Most under $10 some under $4.
I'm jealous! But you are giving me motivation to get that JVC S-VHS HR-S6900U apart and see what's jamming the loading. Of course it can't do all the special things yours can, but it has the jog shuttle, and the words "Super Specification Mechanism" on the door, what ever marketing fodder that is smattered across in bold print. Need to find some S-VHS tapes at a garage sale now, those got to be rare as hens teeth.
A very handy machine, the timebase corrector really has a massive effect :-D That was really cheap, great score :-D I have a Jvc HR-S6855 Super VHS ET HIFI Nicam silver machine. But i don't think it has the timebase corrector. Here is an odd thing about it, sometimes when powered up extra options appear in the menus. I suspect they would not actually work, just the controller thinking the machine is a different model. I wonder if your machine has options that you could access via the buttons ?
I noticed that manufacturers came back to original VHS design on late 2000 models, capstan right under the hole of cassette. No more moving tape farther away from cassette with extra guide and no more vertically moving pinch roller.
They did that ( pulled the tape out to the forward mounted capstan) to reduce the sharp angles the tape takes as it bends around the drum guides. It was thought that rewinding and FF could not be done initially with the tape loaded. That why the first gen unlaced the tape to FF and rew.
I had the Tau 34" HDTV wide screen. Gave it to my father inlaw, and when it broke he tossed it in the garbage because it was too heavy to move back. Would have loved to have gotten that set back.
Last week I found a $5 Samsung TV (TX-T2082). 21" of CRT goodness for my old games with component, AV, and RF outputs. Super clean and looks hardly used, with paperwork + remote. It's a "slim-fit" model, which means it's only 14" deep. I think it's from 2007 or so. Today, my neighbor gave me a 42" Visio. I'll need to pay $100s of dollars worth of remodeling just to keep this old stuff around!
I got you beat I picked up a Jvc hr-dvs3u which is the same machine as yours but it adds a mini dv recorder to it and they are rare got it for 5 dollars at a goodwill store and it works perfectly. no remote included as well.
I wonder if the long, rectangular space on the left-hand side was for anything( same cabinet used for other models)? I guess a power supply board for countries with 220, 230, 240-volt house current maybe?
I know earlier JVC's often had a separate audio module to process stereo audio e.g NICAM/ A2, or perhaps another module for the 'video programming via teletext' feature (VPT).
I noticed that the Viera doesn't even deinterlace the EP recording properly with TBC off. Still it's impressive. A lot of modern TVs don't even lock onto the signal of VHS without TBC because of the distorted sync.
The Mitsubishi that had the clear scan ability (they called them special effects heads) was actually the HS-U82 (I think you repaired its clone in another video). The HS-U62 was just a standard S-VHS deck which was okay (I preferred the U65 and U67 that had flying erase heads). Anyway, I do own an HS-U80 which is a beast but admit it's not a great deck (but it does look nice :)).
Mitsubishi bought electrohome brand in Canada as a way of entering the market. At the time that Mitsubishi wanted to sell product in Canada there was an embargo on Japanese manufacturers. They could not sell their products in Canada unless they picked up a struggling Canadian company. The metro home was a big brand in Canada in the 60s and seventies and into the 80s but lost market share due to all the Japanese products coming in and we're on the verge of bankruptcy. Mitsubishi bought electric home and sold their products under the electoral name. The hsu 82 what's the same machine as the AVR j05. Just different badging. Mitsubishi was eventually permitted to market under their own brand name in Canada and continue the electoral home brand for about 10 years then they drop the brand altogether and marketed under their own brand name for another year or so before leaving the Canadian market completely.
Ohh man that paper and alcohol took me back to my days working as a technician great memories countless repairs,also i wanted to know about that panasonic vhs but you already answer it, i had that argument at the time with my boss son about wich was better
I have 2 ag1970 units. Both have the same fault. We used to call Panasonic "panafuckers" because that is how you felt when you tried to get a part for a 6 year old machine only to find the parts were discontinued.
@@joey_after_midnight Panasonic work great when they work. Unfortunately they are on the low end of the reliability scale. I have 4 AG series, AG DS850, 2 AG1970 and an AGW1. All are broken with bad leaking craps all over the place. The DS850 is one that I will be restoring some day before I die hopefully because when working that one will be worth it's weight in lead.
A few years ago now, coincidentally on VHS day or whatever it was called, I walked into a charity shop and as usual scanned the VHS decks (just the logos) to see if I could find a SVHS one. Knowing they were very expensive secondhand I was willing to go to maybe £100, about half the cost of what I see on ebay. Well, bingo. The SVHS logo was there on a panasonic unit. How much did the shop mark it as? £5 Regardless to say I wasnt going to argue with that, nor did I care if it worked or not. For slightly more than the cost of my lunch I got a working SVHS player. Thanks to your videos I was able to clean its mode switch, which stopped it behaving a bit crazy when I actually started capturing my tapes with it. Otherwise, it has no issues what so ever. It has a line based TBC and "3D DNR" both of which can be toggled by switches on the front so you can see if they help. The TBC usually does, the DNR sometimes. The model is: NV-HS860
@@markrowe8824 I have several of them. Have the one in Monaco in 2011 too, and concert in china. How can you tell I am a fan. Of yes and the one in Rio. I really need to get that one on DVD, or perhaps I already did that.
@@12voltvids I've been interested in his music for over 30 years, have all his album's on cd and vinyl, have some on mini-disc, video tapes of his older concert's, DVD's of those available, a laserdisc of a concert he did at the Eiffel tower in Paris, I live in the UK and wanted to go to the docklands concert but I was still at school but I did see him at Wembley stadium five year's later.
@@markrowe8824 I had his vinyl but when I got the cd copy gave them to my wife's younger brother and when he married and Aussie moved down under and threw the vinyl out. I was really choked. I have it on cd but would love to have the first 3, oxygene, equinox and magnetic fields on vinyl again.
What is the best material to replace the brake pads on these JVC machines, I have two units with worn brakes? when I fast forward or rewind I get a tape spill when I hit stop. What is the best glue to glue them back on the plastic brake levers.
I Have 2 similar JVC machines from same era with same mechanisms. I found them far superior over shitty Panasonic Z mechas (idk if its head cleaner but I had few Z-Panasonics with worn/bad heads with noisy still or dropping hi-fi). Also JVC has all-metal guides. Machines I'm talking about is HR-S6852 S-VHS with Jog but without TBC and HR-J670 - standard player with hi-fi. I'm keeping them for sure. Rock solid stills even before cleaning. S-VHS one had some debris especially on erase head and capstan that was hard to clean, and also first stationary guide before tensioner is somewhat worn(shiny in half way) but this deck is still going strong!
would you consider doing a video on any old satellite equipment like KU-band/C-band stuff? I got into the fta hobby a few years ago and haven't touched the stuff since we got cable christmas of 2019
For some reason when you mensioned that one consert was recorded off "probably satellite" it spiked memories of me in 2019 aiming my DIY K.U-band modded directv dish endlessly until I locked onto hispasat 30w-KU!
I still have a 10' BUD on a pole over the roof. C/Ku but i haven't used it in years. Have a few FTA boxes kicking around but it has been so long since I used it. At one time i had it subbed to digichipher channels. Had a 921 receiver with the 905 sidecar and the HD decoder. Scrapped all that when they turned off the digichipher HD stuff. Got IPTV cable and never looked back.
@@12voltvids Nice! I remember I convinced my mom to let me get a bud but we got cable before I was supose to get it and never got it in the end and ended up abandoning the whole thing lol. I still have my dish lead going into my room as I made sure the contractors installing the cable service ran a seperate dedicated run for the new cable. Incase I'd ever want to revisit FTAing or simply wanted more content to watch! Before I abandoned my FTA projects I bought a satfinder v8 and still have it. That is a very afordable and nice piece of equipment that combines a video monitor, adequate dvbs decoder and a signel strength meter all into one. I plan on also some day getting my ham operator licence and have no doubt my experience with fta will be instrumental in helping me better understand some things from what I picked up while I played around with the hobby. I see you done a recent video on a frequency counter, very interesting piece of equipment! Too bad it sucked lol. Reminded me of some stuff I picked up on freecycle once. Some scopes and other test equipment that aparently came as a kit. Heathkit was the branding on all that stuff. It looked very old like from some mad scientist lab in a movie or something. One gadget that stood out was this multimeter with a prop stand that had buttons that looked like they came straight off of an old blender!
@@12voltvids and lol yes I always went for any unwanted directv slimline series dishes as they always worked perfectly for almost anything Ku-band I must of spent almost $200 on my first successful project alone! I remember ebaying and amazoning all kinds of parts, accesories and equipment: receivers, LNBs, a propper offset Ku-Band dish, cable making supplies, in-line analog satfinders, switches it was a whole lot of fun!
Does anyone make an outboard video processor that will do what the innards of that one does? Time correction, etc... Probably not, otherwise why would this be special? Love the odd duck stuff like this. Thumbs up, great find. Cleaned up a lot of video jitter too.
Yes there are external tbc. I have one around here that was given to me. The bypass relay is toast on it. I did a demo of it awhile back. I don't use it because the one in my 9911 is so good.
Yes the best one out there right now. New enough that it got all the enhancements that the 80 and 90s machines did not have People will claim that old is better. I disagree. They might be stronger mechanically but the most recent generation blew the doors off them as far as pictute quality went.
@@rawr51919 I don't know enough to know how stupid I am.. but I tend to agree with you. The AG's have tons and tons of capacitors in convoluted analog circuits and tend to drift out of alignment and go bad regularly. This JVC looks unlikely to do that. If Panasonic and JVC had a child what would that look like.. a Mitsubishi SVHS?
Would really like to get your opinion on DVD recorder versus PC, or Standalone device digital transfers? I've come across Toshiba RD-XS54/55, Pioneer DVR-550/560 and RCA DRS7000 recorders which seems to make fantastic MPEG2 files on their hard drives that are easy enough to copy to a PC without burning a DVD disc. But there are also neat PC solutions like the Matrox O2 minimax which can capture MPEG2 or H.264 PC files from S-Video. AverMedia makes an ER310 which captures H.264 direct to SSD. Or an ER330 which can capture H.264 direct to a PC network share or a NAS... the options make me dizzy.. and I don't have years of experience in what's good bad.. or worse. any opinions would be immensely 'respected'.
I have the same machine, with the exact same problem. After watching your video, I feel confident I could complete this repair myself, but I need to know where you got your replacement belt. Can you help?
You can generally order online just measure the old one and subtract 10% and you will have the size in diameter. For square belts the prefix is sbs, sbm and sbl for small medium and large, for flat capstan belts it is fbs, fbm, and fbl, and of course for round belts rbs, rbm and rbl. Kpcomponents has most of them. Sizes are measures in inches normally. I keep belts off units i scrap and recycle the good ones which I did here.
@@12voltvids Thank you for the response! I will measure the belt and get a replacement online. It is a fine unit, and you were absolutely right - it's got a better picture than the AG-1970. The Panasonic might be better from a mechanical standpoint, but I barely notice a difference in image quality when using the TBC circuit on that unit, where it's a night and day difference with the JVC, as you demonstrated!
Just picked up an HR-S4600U locally for $35 including remote. It's an S-VHS ET with S-Video output, flying erase head, slow motion with clean fast forward/rewind and freeze frame. It doesn't have a TBC or noise reduction but my Digital8 camcorder has a TBC and NR and I use it for capturing. Did I get a good deal?
@@12voltvids Actually I think there is some kind of a fault, I played another tape I had (recorded in standard VHS) and I think the VCR think it's an S-VHS ET recording because the button is flashing green. The video is all distorted and unstable but the audio is OK. Not sure if it's a HiFi tape but it was dubbed from a Hi8 camcorder. How exactly does it detect standard VHS from S-VHS?
A magnificent find! Last month, I found a working Sony EVS-7000 for around $8 USD! Also a couple years ago, I found a JVC D-VHS VCR but unfortunately, it wasn't working. That's not it, even more recent, I found a Mitsubishi D-VHS VCR for cheap, FULLY WORKING!
Hello !! I have the philips vr1500 with the same mechanism! When I turn the cassette or right or left and press the stop the brakes do not work !! As a result damage the cassette !! Can you tell me what could be wrong?
Because they didn't need to on the newer ones. Faster changing from one more to another. These machines were used for editing (this one is full edit capable with flying erase heads and will talk with a time code controller using vitc. It can edit down to about 2 frames with a controller. This requires the tape stay loaded as the time code is in the video frame on one of the vits lines. Plus people do not like waiting for the tape to load and unload and, tapes are more prone to damage loading and unloading. Usually that is where a VCR eats, when it is unlacing the tape. So just keep it loaded and monitor the tape tension.
I was thinking the same thing.. mostly based on watching 12voltvids.. Filter Cap.. the herringbone pattern if I'm not mistaken is a symptom of "Ripple Current" getting through the transformer and into the delicate parts after the switching mode power supply transformer.. the voltages over there should be DC only.. so they are very vulnerable to "beat frequencies" impressed by the Ripple Current waves.. think a current through a wire produces a magnetic field which couples to the DC voltage traces and wires inducing a visible pattern in the video signals itself.. its like "leaky radiation". That side has no defenses to "filter out" invaders from the far side.. so they show up on the video like Space Invaders on an old Arcade game.
@@joey_after_midnight Thanks for taking the time and providing me with such a nice, detailed answer. I kinda wondered if that might be it too, but I was hoping I guess. The vcr has been a hard worker for me but we have no repair shops around here, and at 74, my sight and skill with a soldering iron are not what they used to be. Love this channel. Thanks again, Joey!
I got a pretty good deal some years back. It was a Mitsubishi mc8000 with the original speakers. Sold as faulty on eBay - I won it for £10.50! Felt bad for the guy and said I was sorry he didn't get more for it. He tells me he bought the lot for £1.00😄
I'd be afraid to damage the heads with that cleaning method. I use paper on head drums myself but I can never get myself to press the flat paper against the drum. I rather use the paper in a loop coward style 😂
Amazed by the high level of the original chroma noise, because it really didn't had to be that bad. Recording S-VHS today with clear clean digital high bit rate digital sources gives a much better result than what you're showing with these old tapes. I would argue that the S-VHS system had and has the capacity of doing better than what could be recorded from aerial/antenna recieved analogue sources back then.
I don't think the video resolution was that bad.. it was the horizontal sync pulse and degenerated "shape" of the color burst which blurred the threshold for determining where the color signal was within the composite video signal. VHS uses Color Under "blending" of the signal on tape, so it has to be separated back out eventually. That poor sync and color burst causes the red and blue to drift all over the place from line to line. Old tapes kind of "loose" the magnetic saturation over time.. a kind of "fade" and the mechanics of the edge of tape passing over the heads can pick up a wiggle that makes it worse.. color is the first casualty, at least its not wavy or Top Curl, or Jumping at this point. The TBC simply strips it out and slaps on a new dash of sync and color burst paint.. and leaves the rest of the analog signal alone.. it might even be hue compromised.. but that can be dialed back out.. its really an elegant solution.
It's noisy because it is old. The lumanence signal is FM recorded and as an FM signal doesn't really fade. Even if the level is low, all you have to do is be able to detect the frequency. Amplify it and there it is. As long as it can be demodulated it will be good. The color on the other hand is converted down from 3.579545 MHz to 629khz and AM recorded to tape. As the magnetic signal fades on the tape the am color signal fades and the signal to noise ratio (SNR) goes in the toilet.
@@12voltvids I was under a misconception then... for a long time. I knew they downconverted the color signal.. didn't know it was AM. That makes Perfect sense. Its brilliant really.. protect the most important part of the signal and let them watch monochrome.. if they can't stand the color.
@@joey_after_midnight broadcast signals were AM too. FM recording for the lumanence was chosen due to magnetic tape having a poor dynamic range. As opposed to raising and lowering the signal with the brightness change they raise and lower the frequency and the level remains constant. With level recording the white level would be the weakest and the sync pulse the strongest. You can imagine what happens to the sync of the level shifts. Chroma on VHS is pathetic. Only about 60 lines of definition is actuated recorded. All cassette based systems use color under except betacam and me formats which record the color as an FM component signal by a seperate set of heads. 1" and 2" broadcast formats record the color directly but still use FM modulaton for the reasons stayed above.
@@12voltvids Of course. Since AM is moduled by the amplitude, any decrease would have an impact. The FM-modulated luminance has the side effect of being used as bias for the AM-signal used for the undercolor signal. How about the upper vestigal sideband ? I was wondering if there's something to gain here in terms of resolution by calibrating an S-VHS recorder for a specific videotape, like the FUJI H471S? And looking at my first generation JVC HR-S5000: Is there something to gain from taking the signal from the chip and lead it through Belden coax instead of having it go through multiple PCB-boards? I was thinking of somehow being able to lower the video noise floor from the factory specified >43dB, by better routing, better shielding and what else one might come up with. You have to consider the fact that these machines were made with a price in mind and with compromises here and there, so there must be ways to enhance their performance.
younger, i used to drill the tab on high grade VHS and VHS-C tape when I could not grab true S tapes. The drawback is that you can only record in S video mode 1 time ! If you try to rewrite over it in S video mode, the result will be awfull, full of dropout as if the eraser head could not do its job.
Bought a JVC 9800? Svhs deck new back in the day. I bought it because it looked so much better than the 3500 low end unit I bought first and traded back in. It plays crap low speed tapes as clean as you can get because of that technology. I did use it to capture old tapes and clean them up and I still have it along with a somewhat similar Mitsubishi Svhs deck that would auto calibrate itself for the best quality from any tape you recorded on. I also have a Sony SLVR 676 that had electronic editing where you could hit the edit button and it would show the recorded video while in record mode to get your edits exactly frame accurate perfect. The only better machine Sony made then was their SLVR5 uber Svhs machine that had similar editing functionality but was over a grand new. Buddy bought one but I couldn't convince myself to spend more than I did for my decent used car back then.
@@12voltvids Well almost every car I have owned I paid cash for and have never had the budget for cars of that price level. It's nice to have a new car when you can afford it, enjoy.
@@69Dartman yes i paid cash too. Only ever financed one new car in 95. Have bought 4 since then, a 98 explorer then a 2005 escape Hybrid then my 12 volt and finially my 19 volt, and sn 07 Harley. I also own my house outright with no mortgage. I wouldn't say i am rich but i never have to worry about money. I made some very wise investments when I was younger and didn't take a vacation for about 15 years. All that money that everyone spends on rv, or camping gear or flying around the world was invested wisely. All the profits in my video production business was invested. Returns on those investments has bought me my last 4 new cars without dipping into my savings. This takes a tremendous amount of discipline, research and a little bit of luck. Market could just as easy go the other way. My strategy is not to be greedy. I also have a find manager watching my portfolio and he has done a good job of picking more winners than losers.
@@12voltvids I/we bought this house/ manufactured home in 2012 just as the market tanked. It's on its own lot in a neighborhood so just a mortgage like any other house but was done and dirt cheap so been doing OK what with the interest deduction and payments slowly going down rather than up. I have probably owned 30 cars now but I'm a motor head and have always liked old Mopars I could get cheap and work on and drive. I still have my third car, the 69 Dart I got my license in and daily drove for years. Later I got sisters 95 Neon coupe in 05 and drove that happily till it finally ate a timing belt at almost 190k. Now I have a 06 Charger Hemi RT to replace it seeing how it was dirt cheap with less than 90k on it. I enjoy the fat but very fast pig and luckily I only drive 10 minutes to work now so it's a fun hungry pig for me to play with. It was lil sisters car originally too so we keep em in the family and I drive em till their done being worth fixing if I like em. I repair chimneys for a living so don't get rich but I too live within my means and buy toys when I can afford them. I build my own computers, fix our electronics and appliances, and do the car maintenance and everything else I can handle. I love hitting garage sales and have found similar deals on all kinds of expensive stuff people just don't care about anymore. I try to avoid them now so I don't fill the house with crap but I stop if I see cool stuff I can use or fix. Good for you doing your thing and making a decent living at it so you can do your hobbies and have cool stuff.
I don't think cheap "digital" Time Base Correctors were possible until about 1998 as a single chip from NEC or Panasonic.. possibly Pioneer had a chip but I don't know. The earliest patent I'm aware of is an analog "Time Base Corrector" for Ampex from 1981. They only corrected the horizontal axis relative to the horizontal sync pulse, not the vertical. You needed a Frame Sync or Genlock / frame sychronizer to latch and store the entire field or frame and introduce a field or frame delay or advance to establish a genlock with another source. Generally.. I think the digital Time Base Corrector was enabled "with" the Digital Noise Correction or Color Noise Filter.. which also involved changing the video relative not only to the horizontal sync pulse, but also the color burst pulse since delays or advances along that axis produced distorted or misplaced color fringing around the edges of the monochromatic Luma signal at twice the horizontal resolution. So look for a DNR or DCR switch on the Hitachi it should be tied to the TBC in some way.
Saw JMJ in Houston a couple of years back. As neat as this player is, I don't have any use for it - nothing worth "archiving" from the VHS age... But, if you are doing this professionally, then - indeed, a "good buy"
The sour note is that garage sale was _probably_ initiated by the children who tried to sell unneeded electronics to unclutter their parents' house. That somewhat brings in a note of sadness.
Ok if you say so. It was a couple clearing clutter as their house sold and they were moving into a smaller place and just wanted rid of stuff. I just missed a nice Yamaha stereo system. Receiver, 5 disk cd changer, altec Lansing 305 speakers and a technics sl1200. It went for 100 for everything. I saw it right after i reserved the JVC and someone else reserved it like 5 seconds before me.
@@joey_after_midnight I keep the pieces that I think I can make money with. The rest, of they work I try to sell or give away, and the broken beyond repair end up in my storage unit for parts till I do a purge then away they go. 10 old VCRs went bye bye today. That Canon was almost one of them and then I fixed it.
@@Vladimir-hq1ne Not so much that, the house will probably have a bulldoser run it over and some new monster go up. Land here is so valuable that all the old houses are being flattened to make way for a new big box, or they are dividing the lot in 2 and putting up 2 tall skinny homes. That will probably happen to my place, and it isn't even old. Only 19 years since I built it, but I have no intention of selling, not at least at this time. My plan is to move only one more time in my life and that will be to the cemetery.
Nice find.. q.. you say you're a canuck.. where abouts? ( in general of course not asking for your address esp on open forum) West of the GTA mess here
Just because you see them listed there for hundreds of dollars, doesn't mean they're actually worth that much. Most of those listings have been up for years. A good S-VHS deck with low milleage and in good working order is not worth more than €200-250. Of course Ebay is the way to go if you want to sell overpriced shit. Lots of suckers there willing to give away money. I'm on Ebay since 2002 and I stopped buying there in 2012 because of the ridiculous prices. I only use the platform to sell stuff.
@@josegti84 I haven't sold anything on eBay since 2002 when a buyer asked for his money back after "renting" a camera for a month and when i said no returns he claimed it didn't work and cried like a spoiled child until his bank ordered a refund. He kept the camera and i was out 2500.00. No recourse. eBay offered up names of recovery companies to help me recover my camera but they didn't offer to pay them and the one firm i contacted wanted a 500 deposit before they would send a legal letter to the buyer demanding it be returned. If that didn't work there was another charge to send someone to collect it and then another charge to ship it back. PayPal also did nothing to stop fraud either. Musk still owned PayPal at that time. He is the big loser there. Theye might be 2 tesla cars sitting in my driveway now but there are 2 volts instead. Musk owned PayPal, I get burned. I take it out on musk and don't buy his shitty cars.
@@12voltvids Ebay should revisit their overprotective policies that always benefit the buyer. I would never sell anything valuable on Ebay using PayPal. If I were to sell anything above €1000, I would only accept wires and I would have the buyer sign a sales contract. Regarding Ellon Musk... I think he's a genious, a true visionary... But even geniuses screw up sometimes.
@@josegti84 The problem I have is how Ebay and Paypal dismissed this. They compared it to a store and a shoplifter saying that businesses have to accept losses from theft. Well, last time I checked if someone buys something in a store and they are not happy with the purchase the merchant is under NO obligation to return and refund. Some places allow returns and others do not. This gets abused all the time at places like Best Buy and Costco. I know a guy that every year would go to best buy and buy a video camera, take it on his holidays which were always under the 15 days to return. Copy his tapes or files, and then return for a full refund. Do the same the next year. Had a friend that worked for years in an electronics store and people would come in, buy the biggest TV they could find on superboww weekend and then return it on the Monday. The store had to put a policy in place for the entire month. No returns after superbowl. This policy went in place for the 2 weeks before superbowl. This SOB basically wanted to rent a professional camera and return it after he was done, exactly 43 days after he bought it. He sent me an email asking to return and I replied ALL SALES FINAL. The next day he filed a dispute 1 day before his 45 day limit expired. Said it never worked. I had video footage of me testing it, powering up with a monitor, showing it recording and playing and in 1 long shot disconnecting, packing and sealing the box. Proof that it worked. You would think that if it did not work he would have been making that claim the day he signed for it, not 44 days later. 10 months of back and forth with ebay and paypal including an email to ceo@paypal and I get a message back informing me that because the buyer funded his paypal account with his credit card and not his bank account that seller protection does not apply because his credit card company ordered a refund. So, how is a seller supposed to know how someone funds their paypal account? Paypal or ebay should have absorbed this cost. Apparently, somewhere in the 453 pages of the ebay and paypal user agreement it is buried there in legal jumble that sellers have to accept that they could lose their inventory sold through ebay due to fraudulent transactions and paypal and ebay is not liable. So I still hold Musk responsible, and will never ever, as long as I live buy one of his cars. You know the saying you piss someone off and they tell everyone they know. The customer is ALWAYS right. To have them dismiss this and say of well too bad so sad, you got burned. So they lost me as a customer. I only use paypal not to accept payment for services. I never ever issue a receipt, and I never send a request for money, as fraudsters can file chargeback if they want, not if they send as friends and family transfer.
@@12voltvids Yeh very very visible on my monitor, the color noise reduction is significant as are the high contrast edges. I see now why it is so desirable and you can't achieve the same in post-processing without loss of detail.
What your looking for are (two things). First the horizontal "color blobs" they are most visible in the red and blue.. color is phase key shifted for the Pr and Pb channels. the Y channel is esentially monochromatic or yellow-ish at twice the resolution so you can't see any Y problems.. but when the red or blue are wrong.. blobs appear on each line.. darkish. Second when he flips the TBC off and on, at the Top of the screen you'll see a slight "flag" waving or "Top Curl" to the Left edge of the screen.. the tbc eliminates that.. but it tries to return when the tbc is switched off.. and a Yellowish Green band appears across the Top.. that's an error or drift in the sync to color burst sync pulse before its locked out.. for each frame.. a tbc removes that.
i just checked ebay they have 2 of these decks 1 is 500.00 plus s-h and tax the deck 2 is 799.00 plus tax and s-h you got grate DEAL THEY DID-NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS THAT SOLD IT TO YOU WC
To them.. Dave was probably a godsend.. if it were a family members that was no longer around.. they probably hated the idea of just tossing it. To them they were hoping for a rescue buyer.. and Dave showed up. There is a communal aspect.. a good.. if you will. to finding a place for things when we don't need them anymore. But we can't afford to wait forever. Sure Dave got a great deal.. but he also did the work to fix it up.. and he has a good purpose for it. A win-win for everyone.
Awesome video. I watch your channel all the time. And I learn alot too. Thank You.
Amazing find! Glad to see it's working. I used to have a JVC HR-DVS1 which also had the TBC and NR functions, but in addition it could output the S-VHS signal direct through its FireWire port. And that is what I have considered to be the best machine for archiving. After seven years of intense use both decks (miniDV and S-VHS) stopped working and due to my lack of repair knowledge I threw it away when I moved to a new place. I utterly regret it now and sometimes I see refurbished ones for 800 to 1000 euros. I'm truly happy for you having this thing in working order, but watching this magnificent piece also hurts a bit...
Great purchase! And, as always, thank you for the 'walkthrough' of the machine, its operation and the slight repair!
Rendez-Vous Houston was still one of the best concerts that JMJ has given... and the track tributed to Ronald McNair (who was scheduled to perform live from space) was very touching. Still one of my favorite albums.
The version with noise reduction looks awfully close to the DVD I have here.
Cool tool, make me drool. Hey Dave, popping in that tape of Jean M. Jarre brought back memories here in HOUSTON. It was publicized on radio and TV stations ahead of time. WOW, since videos were displayed on the sides of downtown building, search light towers, vast amounts of fireworks and loudspeakers as well as simulcast on radios..... it brought CROWDS of attendees as well as automobile on-lookers who stopped on the streets and FREEWAYS and brought traffic to a dead HALT for the show. I've never experienced a production like that and was glad to have been there IN PERSON. Thanks for the vid. JwgK
My JVC HR-S 9500 has the TBC and NR too. It was the high end SVHS at the time. Great for dubbing.
Nice video as usual .I enjoy listening to you explain the unit as you test/trouble shoot it. I have a jvc hrs-9900u which I have had since new circa 2002.The tbc and function is extremely useful when using the unit for archiving. The only problem I ever have had was the same as this one the loading belt had to be replaced due to slipping.thanks for the informative videos!!😀
I really like his running commentary, he's got a good voice for it as well. His mind is sharp as a tac and moves from deliberate topic to topic. Its kind of a legacy he's building here trying to teach or encourage people to learn and fend for themselves repairing all of the things he works on. i hope he never gets discouraged by all the trolls.
Nice machine. Easiest belt change I have ever seen. Neat !!!!
It amazing how they managed to keep refining VHS to the point not sure how many consumers were expecting this improvement. Today people is crazy on ultra super high HD ... back in these days ... But it doesnt look like a prosumer machine. ....
Lucky find! I was looking for a model with TBC last year and on ebay they go for a lot of money. So I settled on its lesser brother, the HR-S6800U, that does not have TBC but has similar build quality and is easy to find for garage sale prices
That’s a very nice score for $10.00!
You said it yourself, good quality very well made, and for a machine that’s 19 years old,
you just can’t go wrong. Nice find and nice fix.
Definitely fantastic shape. I get excited by my recent tech, but what I'm most proud of, personally, is maintaining operation of my machines from the 70's and earlier.
I remember this event that's on that tape. If this is the same one I think it is, you could see the fireworks from 20 miles away. Traffic was stopped on all the major freeways going into downtown. People just stopped and got out of their cars to watch the show. It was even simulcast on the radio.
That was a good score, My latest find was a Toshiba W625CG (with remote) for 10 bucks, looks barely used but I gave it a good clean, performs well, best machine I ever had.
My best find VCR wise was a Sony SLV 825 for 15€
High end unit
Only needed caps on the PSU and it's been rock solid since
In the last few days I was very happy to succesfully recommission my long dormant JVC HR-S6700 (UK PAL spec) which has the VHS ET jiggery pokery, but I want one of these now. The difference on the digital time base corrector is just fantastic! Doubt I'll get one for a tenner though.
Very nice score indeed. I have a BENQ 21 inch monitor I picked up at a yard sale for $5 some 15 years ago. Usually used with my game console but was used my laptop at one stage. I also have a Hitachi multi standard VHS VCR from a 2ndhand store for $5
Good score!
Some of us have AG-1980s for those tapes that won't track in the JVCs for some stupid reason....
Anyway, the eject mech. on these was always kinda wimpy. Not having the dynamic drum is a good thing these days as the gears in them break and render an otherwise usable VCR non-functional. I have one DD unit here (HR-S7500U), but the power supply went "pop" one day when I plugged it in and now its dead. I can't find the fault as there is no obvious burn mark/damage on the board and the fuse in intact. It also needs a new reel brake. I got it on a trade, so I don't have much into it! It was a backup unit to my DVHS deck and HR-S7800U.
Currently, there are four of these units for sale on E-Bay and the lowest priced one starts at $499.95. That was one heck of a great bargain. Congrats !
I have had 2 contact me and offer me 500 for it already. Not selling it for that. Can make much more off it than 500.
This seems like a good example of building something down to a cost, and it actually benefiting the machine. Super simple, none of those "fancy" surface mount caps. Keep it simple, and there's less to go wrong!
Reliability wise this one is really reliable, but having plastic parts means be gentle with it, and don's firestack it where it will get too hot.
Hooray for simplicity and sourcing mass produced cheap components for an excellent design. The plastic gears and rubber components worry me.. but its a stellar improvement over the alternative.
@@12voltvids I have to hand it to you for knowing intuitively the loader belt was most likely the problem with basket. I was thinking "mode switch" based on your previous videos.. or something more complex. I wondered what it was that made you think Loader belt.. experience with this model? or pure intuition?
Now that’s what I call an awesome score!!!
I have a JVC HR -S6855 SVHS which I bought from Curry’s (now Curry’s PC World) here in the UK back in 2001 for about £200, brilliant machine with NTSC Playback on PAL TV, NICAM Stereo and Video Plus, it works virtually the same as the one you got there Dave, the cheapest VCR I bought at a Car Boot sale was a Sony machine with remote control for £2, another brilliant device
You're right these machines were designed to be fully serviceable.
Once again good find.
this is the best times for us to find great electronics like this, only people like us are over the moon when we find this stuff, that no one wants cause its to big! great find for 10 bucks.
About 5 years ago the local thrifts all had 10-50 VCRs on the shelf any given day and I got well over a dozen S-VHS-ET and S-VHS decks...Most under $10 some under $4.
I'm jealous!
But you are giving me motivation to get that JVC S-VHS HR-S6900U apart and see what's jamming the loading. Of course it can't do all the special things yours can, but it has the jog shuttle, and the words "Super Specification Mechanism" on the door, what ever marketing fodder that is smattered across in bold print. Need to find some S-VHS tapes at a garage sale now, those got to be rare as hens teeth.
take a tip from Dave in the video.. try changing out the Loader drive belt.. it might be an easy win.
@@joey_after_midnight No, it won't turn by hand. I have a vid of it up. Search for that model number.
A very handy machine, the timebase corrector really has a massive effect :-D
That was really cheap, great score :-D
I have a Jvc HR-S6855 Super VHS ET HIFI Nicam silver machine.
But i don't think it has the timebase corrector.
Here is an odd thing about it, sometimes when powered up extra options appear in the menus.
I suspect they would not actually work, just the controller thinking the machine is a different model.
I wonder if your machine has options that you could access via the buttons ?
I noticed that manufacturers came back to original VHS design on late 2000 models, capstan right under the hole of cassette. No more moving tape farther away from cassette with extra guide and no more vertically moving pinch roller.
They did that ( pulled the tape out to the forward mounted capstan) to reduce the sharp angles the tape takes as it bends around the drum guides. It was thought that rewinding and FF could not be done initially with the tape loaded. That why the first gen unlaced the tape to FF and rew.
I have a similar deck, I think the model before this the HR-S9800U which I bought NOS about a decade ago.
I have a Panasonic Tau Giga 32 inch in the spare room. It still works like new :) . This would go great with that .
I had the Tau 34" HDTV wide screen. Gave it to my father inlaw, and when it broke he tossed it in the garbage because it was too heavy to move back. Would have loved to have gotten that set back.
Last week I found a $5 Samsung TV (TX-T2082). 21" of CRT goodness for my old games with component, AV, and RF outputs. Super clean and looks hardly used, with paperwork + remote. It's a "slim-fit" model, which means it's only 14" deep. I think it's from 2007 or so. Today, my neighbor gave me a 42" Visio. I'll need to pay $100s of dollars worth of remodeling just to keep this old stuff around!
Incredible find 📼
Nice! I always wondered how they detect nearing the end of tape during rewind to slow it down. Do you know how it's done?
Measuring the speed of the supply and take up reels. They have sensors on them.
I got you beat I picked up a Jvc hr-dvs3u which is the same machine as yours but it adds a mini dv recorder to it and they are rare got it for 5 dollars at a goodwill store and it works perfectly. no remote included as well.
That is indeed a great machine Dave. I could be wrong but isn't it missing a large flap that covers the center section?
No. There's no cover. I have one of these too.
I wonder if the long, rectangular space on the left-hand side was for anything( same cabinet used for other models)? I guess a power supply board for countries with 220, 230, 240-volt house current maybe?
Switch power supply good for 90 to 240v
I know earlier JVC's often had a separate audio module to process stereo audio e.g NICAM/ A2, or perhaps another module for the 'video programming via teletext' feature (VPT).
I noticed that the Viera doesn't even deinterlace the EP recording properly with TBC off. Still it's impressive. A lot of modern TVs don't even lock onto the signal of VHS without TBC because of the distorted sync.
The Mitsubishi that had the clear scan ability (they called them special effects heads) was actually the HS-U82 (I think you repaired its clone in another video). The HS-U62 was just a standard S-VHS deck which was okay (I preferred the U65 and U67 that had flying erase heads). Anyway, I do own an HS-U80 which is a beast but admit it's not a great deck (but it does look nice :)).
Mitsubishi bought electrohome brand in Canada as a way of entering the market. At the time that Mitsubishi wanted to sell product in Canada there was an embargo on Japanese manufacturers. They could not sell their products in Canada unless they picked up a struggling Canadian company. The metro home was a big brand in Canada in the 60s and seventies and into the 80s but lost market share due to all the Japanese products coming in and we're on the verge of bankruptcy. Mitsubishi bought electric home and sold their products under the electoral name. The hsu 82 what's the same machine as the AVR j05. Just different badging. Mitsubishi was eventually permitted to market under their own brand name in Canada and continue the electoral home brand for about 10 years then they drop the brand altogether and marketed under their own brand name for another year or so before leaving the Canadian market completely.
Ohh man that paper and alcohol took me back to my days working as a technician great memories countless repairs,also i wanted to know about that panasonic vhs but you already answer it, i had that argument at the time with my boss son about wich was better
I have 2 ag1970 units. Both have the same fault. We used to call Panasonic "panafuckers" because that is how you felt when you tried to get a part for a 6 year old machine only to find the parts were discontinued.
@@joey_after_midnight Panasonic work great when they work. Unfortunately they are on the low end of the reliability scale. I have 4 AG series, AG DS850, 2 AG1970 and an AGW1. All are broken with bad leaking craps all over the place. The DS850 is one that I will be restoring some day before I die hopefully because when working that one will be worth it's weight in lead.
A few years ago now, coincidentally on VHS day or whatever it was called, I walked into a charity shop and as usual scanned the VHS decks (just the logos) to see if I could find a SVHS one. Knowing they were very expensive secondhand I was willing to go to maybe £100, about half the cost of what I see on ebay.
Well, bingo. The SVHS logo was there on a panasonic unit. How much did the shop mark it as? £5
Regardless to say I wasnt going to argue with that, nor did I care if it worked or not. For slightly more than the cost of my lunch I got a working SVHS player. Thanks to your videos I was able to clean its mode switch, which stopped it behaving a bit crazy when I actually started capturing my tapes with it. Otherwise, it has no issues what so ever. It has a line based TBC and "3D DNR" both of which can be toggled by switches on the front so you can see if they help. The TBC usually does, the DNR sometimes.
The model is: NV-HS860
Yes i picked up another one for 15.00 a JVC svhs et model. It is in my system for when I want to play the odd VHS or svhs tape.
I want a DVD copy of The JMJ concert please; that looks like an amazing local edition you have there. Yes, I am a serious JMJ fan.
I wouldn't mind Blu-ray versions of all his older concert's but it seems like these days Mr JMJ is more interested in virtual reality crap.🤔🤔
@@markrowe8824 I have several of them. Have the one in Monaco in 2011 too, and concert in china. How can you tell I am a fan. Of yes and the one in Rio. I really need to get that one on DVD, or perhaps I already did that.
@@markrowe8824 I have several of his older concerts on SVHS.
@@12voltvids I've been interested in his music for over 30 years, have all his album's on cd and vinyl, have some on mini-disc, video tapes of his older concert's, DVD's of those available, a laserdisc of a concert he did at the Eiffel tower in Paris, I live in the UK and wanted to go to the docklands concert but I was still at school but I did see him at Wembley stadium five year's later.
@@markrowe8824 I had his vinyl but when I got the cd copy gave them to my wife's younger brother and when he married and Aussie moved down under and threw the vinyl out. I was really choked. I have it on cd but would love to have the first 3, oxygene, equinox and magnetic fields on vinyl again.
What is the best material to replace the brake pads on these JVC machines, I have two units with worn brakes? when I fast forward or rewind I get a tape spill when I hit stop. What is the best glue to glue them back on the plastic brake levers.
I Have 2 similar JVC machines from same era with same mechanisms. I found them far superior over shitty Panasonic Z mechas (idk if its head cleaner but I had few Z-Panasonics with worn/bad heads with noisy still or dropping hi-fi). Also JVC has all-metal guides. Machines I'm talking about is HR-S6852 S-VHS with Jog but without TBC and HR-J670 - standard player with hi-fi. I'm keeping them for sure. Rock solid stills even before cleaning. S-VHS one had some debris especially on erase head and capstan that was hard to clean, and also first stationary guide before tensioner is somewhat worn(shiny in half way) but this deck is still going strong!
would you consider doing a video on any old satellite equipment like KU-band/C-band stuff?
I got into the fta hobby a few years ago and haven't touched the stuff since we got cable christmas of 2019
For some reason when you mensioned that one consert was recorded off "probably satellite" it spiked memories of me in 2019 aiming my DIY K.U-band modded directv dish endlessly until I locked onto hispasat 30w-KU!
I still have a 10' BUD on a pole over the roof. C/Ku but i haven't used it in years. Have a few FTA boxes kicking around but it has been so long since I used it. At one time i had it subbed to digichipher channels. Had a 921 receiver with the 905 sidecar and the HD decoder. Scrapped all that when they turned off the digichipher HD stuff. Got IPTV cable and never looked back.
@@12voltvids Nice!
I remember I convinced my mom to let me get a bud but we got cable before I was supose to get it and never got it in the end and ended up abandoning the whole thing lol.
I still have my dish lead going into my room as I made sure the contractors installing the cable service ran a seperate dedicated run for the new cable. Incase I'd ever want to revisit FTAing or simply wanted more content to watch! Before I abandoned my FTA projects I bought a satfinder v8 and still have it. That is a very afordable and nice piece of equipment that combines a video monitor, adequate dvbs decoder and a signel strength meter all into one. I plan on also some day getting my ham operator licence and have no doubt my experience with fta will be instrumental in helping me better understand some things from what I picked up while I played around with the hobby. I see you done a recent video on a frequency counter, very interesting piece of equipment! Too bad it sucked lol. Reminded me of some stuff I picked up on freecycle once.
Some scopes and other test equipment that aparently came as a kit.
Heathkit was the branding on all that stuff. It looked very old like from some mad scientist lab in a movie or something. One gadget that stood out was this multimeter with a prop stand that had buttons that looked like they came straight off of an old blender!
@@12voltvids and lol yes I always went for any unwanted directv slimline series dishes as they always worked perfectly for almost anything Ku-band I must of spent almost $200 on my first successful project alone!
I remember ebaying and amazoning all kinds of parts, accesories and equipment: receivers, LNBs, a propper offset Ku-Band dish, cable making supplies, in-line analog satfinders, switches it was a whole lot of fun!
Does anyone make an outboard video processor that will do what the innards of that one does? Time correction, etc... Probably not, otherwise why would this be special? Love the odd duck stuff like this. Thumbs up, great find. Cleaned up a lot of video jitter too.
Yes there are external tbc. I have one around here that was given to me. The bypass relay is toast on it. I did a demo of it awhile back. I don't use it because the one in my 9911 is so good.
does look good for VHS tape even on a very large screen.
The perfect unit for your digitization process
Yes the best one out there right now. New enough that it got all the enhancements that the 80 and 90s machines did not have
People will claim that old is better. I disagree. They might be stronger mechanically but the most recent generation blew the doors off them as far as pictute quality went.
@@12voltvids I will agree that the AGs are a top contender, but this perhaps holds the top spot as far as... pretty well everything is concerned
@@rawr51919 I don't know enough to know how stupid I am.. but I tend to agree with you. The AG's have tons and tons of capacitors in convoluted analog circuits and tend to drift out of alignment and go bad regularly. This JVC looks unlikely to do that. If Panasonic and JVC had a child what would that look like.. a Mitsubishi SVHS?
pretty sure John Paul The 2nd spoke at that concert. seen Jean Michelle Jarre in toronto couple years back.
Would really like to get your opinion on DVD recorder versus PC, or Standalone device digital transfers? I've come across Toshiba RD-XS54/55, Pioneer DVR-550/560 and RCA DRS7000 recorders which seems to make fantastic MPEG2 files on their hard drives that are easy enough to copy to a PC without burning a DVD disc. But there are also neat PC solutions like the Matrox O2 minimax which can capture MPEG2 or H.264 PC files from S-Video. AverMedia makes an ER310 which captures H.264 direct to SSD. Or an ER330 which can capture H.264 direct to a PC network share or a NAS... the options make me dizzy.. and I don't have years of experience in what's good bad.. or worse. any opinions would be immensely 'respected'.
NICE Find! and it works..
RTX/ON RTX/OFF - Time base correction is really nice.
Best $10 I ever spent was for a Yamaha CR-800 receiver at Goodwill. Cleaned it up, De-oxited the controls and flipped it for $250.
I have the same machine, with the exact same problem. After watching your video, I feel confident I could complete this repair myself, but I need to know where you got your replacement belt. Can you help?
You can generally order online just measure the old one and subtract 10% and you will have the size in diameter. For square belts the prefix is sbs, sbm and sbl for small medium and large, for flat capstan belts it is fbs, fbm, and fbl, and of course for round belts rbs, rbm and rbl. Kpcomponents has most of them. Sizes are measures in inches normally. I keep belts off units i scrap and recycle the good ones which I did here.
@@12voltvids Thank you for the response! I will measure the belt and get a replacement online. It is a fine unit, and you were absolutely right - it's got a better picture than the AG-1970. The Panasonic might be better from a mechanical standpoint, but I barely notice a difference in image quality when using the TBC circuit on that unit, where it's a night and day difference with the JVC, as you demonstrated!
What setting you have it on when TBC was on? Edit, Norm, auto ?
Just picked up an HR-S4600U locally for $35 including remote. It's an S-VHS ET with S-Video output, flying erase head, slow motion with clean fast forward/rewind and freeze frame.
It doesn't have a TBC or noise reduction but my Digital8 camcorder has a TBC and NR and I use it for capturing. Did I get a good deal?
I would say yes.
@@12voltvids Actually I think there is some kind of a fault, I played another tape I had (recorded in standard VHS) and I think the VCR think it's an S-VHS ET recording because the button is flashing green. The video is all distorted and unstable but the audio is OK. Not sure if it's a HiFi tape but it was dubbed from a Hi8 camcorder. How exactly does it detect standard VHS from S-VHS?
@@KylesDigitalLab svhs is detected by the bandwidth and frequency of the lumanence carrier.
That's a heck of a find .
A magnificent find! Last month, I found a working Sony EVS-7000 for around $8 USD! Also a couple years ago, I found a JVC D-VHS VCR but unfortunately, it wasn't working. That's not it, even more recent, I found a Mitsubishi D-VHS VCR for cheap, FULLY WORKING!
would you sell the evs-7000
@@thebetamaxman8905 That I'm not.
that could had been the Tanashin aquivalent mechanism in VHS world
Always wanted a high end VHS so I could use it has a blue collar reel to reel.
Wow, that is impressive. Did Sony have any TBC units?
Their Hi8 models certainly did. EVS7000 and EVS3000, plus the CCDV5000 camera all had TBC.
Hello !! I have the philips vr1500 with the same mechanism! When I turn the cassette or right or left and press the stop the brakes do not work !! As a result damage the cassette !! Can you tell me what could be wrong?
And yet why, during rewinding, the recorder does not remove the tape from the video drum?
Because they didn't need to on the newer ones. Faster changing from one more to another. These machines were used for editing (this one is full edit capable with flying erase heads and will talk with a time code controller using vitc. It can edit down to about 2 frames with a controller. This requires the tape stay loaded as the time code is in the video frame on one of the vits lines. Plus people do not like waiting for the tape to load and unload and, tapes are more prone to damage loading and unloading. Usually that is where a VCR eats, when it is unlacing the tape. So just keep it loaded and monitor the tape tension.
nice find, looking for one in the UK but no joy.
These ones are relatively scarce.
Nice to have Jean-Michel Jarre in the thumbnail there.
What about the Sharp VC-S101?
Would a mild herringbone pattern on playback point to RF interference or something else failing? ( Sony EVS-7000)
That screams capacitors in power supply.
I was thinking the same thing.. mostly based on watching 12voltvids.. Filter Cap.. the herringbone pattern if I'm not mistaken is a symptom of "Ripple Current" getting through the transformer and into the delicate parts after the switching mode power supply transformer.. the voltages over there should be DC only.. so they are very vulnerable to "beat frequencies" impressed by the Ripple Current waves.. think a current through a wire produces a magnetic field which couples to the DC voltage traces and wires inducing a visible pattern in the video signals itself.. its like "leaky radiation". That side has no defenses to "filter out" invaders from the far side.. so they show up on the video like Space Invaders on an old Arcade game.
@@joey_after_midnight Thanks for taking the time and providing me with such a nice, detailed answer. I kinda wondered if that might be it too, but I was hoping I guess. The vcr has been a hard worker for me but we have no repair shops around here, and at 74, my sight and skill with a soldering iron are not what they used to be. Love this channel. Thanks again, Joey!
@@12voltvids Thanks for the help! Now to figure out what to do about it!
At 11:33 that's Dave Ward from ABC channel 13 KTRK out of Houston.
I was thinking the same thing.. right next door to the town I live in
I should think you did snap it up at that price especially being s top end model,
I got a pretty good deal some years back. It was a Mitsubishi mc8000 with the original speakers. Sold as faulty on eBay - I won it for £10.50! Felt bad for the guy and said I was sorry he didn't get more for it. He tells me he bought the lot for £1.00😄
I'd be afraid to damage the heads with that cleaning method. I use paper on head drums myself but I can never get myself to press the flat paper against the drum. I rather use the paper in a loop coward style 😂
wow what a bargain well done📼
I like bargains.
What movie in VHS?
Amazed by the high level of the original chroma noise, because it really didn't had to be that bad.
Recording S-VHS today with clear clean digital high bit rate digital sources gives a much better result than what you're showing with these old tapes. I would argue that the S-VHS system had and has the capacity of doing better than what could be recorded from aerial/antenna recieved analogue sources back then.
I don't think the video resolution was that bad.. it was the horizontal sync pulse and degenerated "shape" of the color burst which blurred the threshold for determining where the color signal was within the composite video signal. VHS uses Color Under "blending" of the signal on tape, so it has to be separated back out eventually. That poor sync and color burst causes the red and blue to drift all over the place from line to line. Old tapes kind of "loose" the magnetic saturation over time.. a kind of "fade" and the mechanics of the edge of tape passing over the heads can pick up a wiggle that makes it worse.. color is the first casualty, at least its not wavy or Top Curl, or Jumping at this point. The TBC simply strips it out and slaps on a new dash of sync and color burst paint.. and leaves the rest of the analog signal alone.. it might even be hue compromised.. but that can be dialed back out.. its really an elegant solution.
It's noisy because it is old. The lumanence signal is FM recorded and as an FM signal doesn't really fade. Even if the level is low, all you have to do is be able to detect the frequency. Amplify it and there it is. As long as it can be demodulated it will be good. The color on the other hand is converted down from 3.579545 MHz to 629khz and AM recorded to tape. As the magnetic signal fades on the tape the am color signal fades and the signal to noise ratio (SNR) goes in the toilet.
@@12voltvids I was under a misconception then... for a long time. I knew they downconverted the color signal.. didn't know it was AM. That makes Perfect sense. Its brilliant really.. protect the most important part of the signal and let them watch monochrome.. if they can't stand the color.
@@joey_after_midnight broadcast signals were AM too. FM recording for the lumanence was chosen due to magnetic tape having a poor dynamic range. As opposed to raising and lowering the signal with the brightness change they raise and lower the frequency and the level remains constant. With level recording the white level would be the weakest and the sync pulse the strongest. You can imagine what happens to the sync of the level shifts. Chroma on VHS is pathetic. Only about 60 lines of definition is actuated recorded. All cassette based systems use color under except betacam and me formats which record the color as an FM component signal by a seperate set of heads. 1" and 2" broadcast formats record the color directly but still use FM modulaton for the reasons stayed above.
@@12voltvids Of course. Since AM is moduled by the amplitude, any decrease would have an impact. The FM-modulated luminance has the side effect of being used as bias for the AM-signal used for the undercolor signal.
How about the upper vestigal sideband ? I was wondering if there's something to gain here in terms of resolution by calibrating an S-VHS recorder for a specific videotape, like the FUJI H471S?
And looking at my first generation JVC HR-S5000: Is there something to gain from taking the signal from the chip and lead it through Belden coax instead of having it go through multiple PCB-boards?
I was thinking of somehow being able to lower the video noise floor from the factory specified >43dB, by better routing, better shielding and what else one might come up with. You have to consider the fact that these machines were made with a price in mind and with compromises here and there, so there must be ways to enhance their performance.
younger, i used to drill the tab on high grade VHS and VHS-C tape when I could not grab true S tapes. The drawback is that you can only record in S video mode 1 time ! If you try to rewrite over it in S video mode, the result will be awfull, full of dropout as if the eraser head could not do its job.
No never seen a VCR the belt was easy, to change , JVC makes great product's
U won't believe what I got for 20€. Two pioneer stereo systems fully functional 😁
Just needs a hint of grease on those slides to finish the full service.......
Bought a JVC 9800? Svhs deck new back in the day. I bought it because it looked so much better than the 3500 low end unit I bought first and traded back in. It plays crap low speed tapes as clean as you can get because of that technology. I did use it to capture old tapes and clean them up and I still have it along with a somewhat similar Mitsubishi Svhs deck that would auto calibrate itself for the best quality from any tape you recorded on. I also have a Sony SLVR 676 that had electronic editing where you could hit the edit button and it would show the recorded video while in record mode to get your edits exactly frame accurate perfect. The only better machine Sony made then was their SLVR5 uber Svhs machine that had similar editing functionality but was over a grand new. Buddy bought one but I couldn't convince myself to spend more than I did for my decent used car back then.
I have never owned a car that cost less than 40,000.00
@@12voltvids Well almost every car I have owned I paid cash for and have never had the budget for cars of that price level. It's nice to have a new car when you can afford it, enjoy.
@@69Dartman yes i paid cash too. Only ever financed one new car in 95. Have bought 4 since then, a 98 explorer then a 2005 escape Hybrid then my 12 volt and finially my 19 volt, and sn 07 Harley. I also own my house outright with no mortgage. I wouldn't say i am rich but i never have to worry about money. I made some very wise investments when I was younger and didn't take a vacation for about 15 years. All that money that everyone spends on rv, or camping gear or flying around the world was invested wisely. All the profits in my video production business was invested. Returns on those investments has bought me my last 4 new cars without dipping into my savings. This takes a tremendous amount of discipline, research and a little bit of luck. Market could just as easy go the other way. My strategy is not to be greedy. I also have a find manager watching my portfolio and he has done a good job of picking more winners than losers.
@@12voltvids I/we bought this house/ manufactured home in 2012 just as the market tanked. It's on its own lot in a neighborhood so just a mortgage like any other house but was done and dirt cheap so been doing OK what with the interest deduction and payments slowly going down rather than up. I have probably owned 30 cars now but I'm a motor head and have always liked old Mopars I could get cheap and work on and drive. I still have my third car, the 69 Dart I got my license in and daily drove for years. Later I got sisters 95 Neon coupe in 05 and drove that happily till it finally ate a timing belt at almost 190k. Now I have a 06 Charger Hemi RT to replace it seeing how it was dirt cheap with less than 90k on it. I enjoy the fat but very fast pig and luckily I only drive 10 minutes to work now so it's a fun hungry pig for me to play with. It was lil sisters car originally too so we keep em in the family and I drive em till their done being worth fixing if I like em.
I repair chimneys for a living so don't get rich but I too live within my means and buy toys when I can afford them. I build my own computers, fix our electronics and appliances, and do the car maintenance and everything else I can handle.
I love hitting garage sales and have found similar deals on all kinds of expensive stuff people just don't care about anymore. I try to avoid them now so I don't fill the house with crap but I stop if I see cool stuff I can use or fix.
Good for you doing your thing and making a decent living at it so you can do your hobbies and have cool stuff.
how do you turn on the time base corrector on a Hitachi vcr?
I don't think cheap "digital" Time Base Correctors were possible until about 1998 as a single chip from NEC or Panasonic.. possibly Pioneer had a chip but I don't know. The earliest patent I'm aware of is an analog "Time Base Corrector" for Ampex from 1981. They only corrected the horizontal axis relative to the horizontal sync pulse, not the vertical. You needed a Frame Sync or Genlock / frame sychronizer to latch and store the entire field or frame and introduce a field or frame delay or advance to establish a genlock with another source. Generally.. I think the digital Time Base Corrector was enabled "with" the Digital Noise Correction or Color Noise Filter.. which also involved changing the video relative not only to the horizontal sync pulse, but also the color burst pulse since delays or advances along that axis produced distorted or misplaced color fringing around the edges of the monochromatic Luma signal at twice the horizontal resolution. So look for a DNR or DCR switch on the Hitachi it should be tied to the TBC in some way.
Pretty amazing. (trivia: fyi 12VID, "JVC" used to heckled really bad by some of my tech associates; it stood for "Junk Versus Crap!"
We called them junk very cheap at work, then we became a JVC dealer and we had to stop saying that.
Do you know what the Panasonic Super Drive systems actually mean? Most of their machines have this name on them.
Looks like D-VHS VCR. :)
How fast did you pull out ten bucks? 😃
I knew the price as it was listed in the ad. Surprising I was the only one that responded. The Yamaha stereo had multiple offers.
what model is this i want one
Go back and watch from the beginning.
Wow.
Saw JMJ in Houston a couple of years back. As neat as this player is, I don't have any use for it - nothing worth "archiving" from the VHS age... But, if you are doing this professionally, then - indeed, a "good buy"
The sour note is that garage sale was _probably_ initiated by the children who tried to sell unneeded electronics to unclutter their parents' house.
That somewhat brings in a note of sadness.
Ok if you say so. It was a couple clearing clutter as their house sold and they were moving into a smaller place and just wanted rid of stuff. I just missed a nice Yamaha stereo system. Receiver, 5 disk cd changer, altec Lansing 305 speakers and a technics sl1200. It went for 100 for everything. I saw it right after i reserved the JVC and someone else reserved it like 5 seconds before me.
@@12voltvids yes. That is what life is about - to make room for the next generation...
@@joey_after_midnight I keep the pieces that I think I can make money with. The rest, of they work I try to sell or give away, and the broken beyond repair end up in my storage unit for parts till I do a purge then away they go. 10 old VCRs went bye bye today. That Canon was almost one of them and then I fixed it.
@@Vladimir-hq1ne Not so much that, the house will probably have a bulldoser run it over and some new monster go up. Land here is so valuable that all the old houses are being flattened to make way for a new big box, or they are dividing the lot in 2 and putting up 2 tall skinny homes.
That will probably happen to my place, and it isn't even old. Only 19 years since I built it, but I have no intention of selling, not at least at this time. My plan is to move only one more time in my life and that will be to the cemetery.
You was lucky!!!!!
I see deals like this all the time. Someone had already messaged me and made an offer for it.
Winner
chicken dinner
sweet
u not surprise me with speed FF and REW, because i have Panasonic NV-FJ630! 3 hours tape, rewind in (near) 20 sec. jet plane taking off...
I always thought Lionfish were quite beautiful but apparently they can also be dangerous if provoked.
They can sting. The rockfish on the other hand is deadly.
@@12voltvids I read that wrong at first.. I thought you said they could Sing! All I could think for about five minutes was.. how could a fish Sing?
Wow...
Indeed
Nice find.. q.. you say you're a canuck.. where abouts?
( in general of course not asking for your address esp on open forum)
West of the GTA mess here
Yikes! Just checked "JVC SVHS" on ebay, multi-hundred dollars for several models!
Crazy eh.
Just because you see them listed there for hundreds of dollars, doesn't mean they're actually worth that much. Most of those listings have been up for years. A good S-VHS deck with low milleage and in good working order is not worth more than €200-250. Of course Ebay is the way to go if you want to sell overpriced shit. Lots of suckers there willing to give away money. I'm on Ebay since 2002 and I stopped buying there in 2012 because of the ridiculous prices. I only use the platform to sell stuff.
@@josegti84
I haven't sold anything on eBay since 2002 when a buyer asked for his money back after "renting" a camera for a month and when i said no returns he claimed it didn't work and cried like a spoiled child until his bank ordered a refund. He kept the camera and i was out 2500.00. No recourse. eBay offered up names of recovery companies to help me recover my camera but they didn't offer to pay them and the one firm i contacted wanted a 500 deposit before they would send a legal letter to the buyer demanding it be returned. If that didn't work there was another charge to send someone to collect it and then another charge to ship it back. PayPal also did nothing to stop fraud either. Musk still owned PayPal at that time. He is the big loser there. Theye might be 2 tesla cars sitting in my driveway now but there are 2 volts instead. Musk owned PayPal, I get burned. I take it out on musk and don't buy his shitty cars.
@@12voltvids Ebay should revisit their overprotective policies that always benefit the buyer. I would never sell anything valuable on Ebay using PayPal. If I were to sell anything above €1000, I would only accept wires and I would have the buyer sign a sales contract. Regarding Ellon Musk... I think he's a genious, a true visionary... But even geniuses screw up sometimes.
@@josegti84
The problem I have is how Ebay and Paypal dismissed this.
They compared it to a store and a shoplifter saying that businesses have to accept losses from theft. Well, last time I checked if someone buys something in a store and they are not happy with the purchase the merchant is under NO obligation to return and refund. Some places allow returns and others do not.
This gets abused all the time at places like Best Buy and Costco.
I know a guy that every year would go to best buy and buy a video camera, take it on his holidays which were always under the 15 days to return. Copy his tapes or files, and then return for a full refund. Do the same the next year. Had a friend that worked for years in an electronics store and people would come in, buy the biggest TV they could find on superboww weekend and then return it on the Monday. The store had to put a policy in place for the entire month. No returns after superbowl. This policy went in place for the 2 weeks before superbowl.
This SOB basically wanted to rent a professional camera and return it after he was done, exactly 43 days after he bought it. He sent me an email asking to return and I replied ALL SALES FINAL. The next day he filed a dispute 1 day before his 45 day limit expired.
Said it never worked. I had video footage of me testing it, powering up with a monitor, showing it recording and playing and in 1 long shot disconnecting, packing and sealing the box. Proof that it worked. You would think that if it did not work he would have been making that claim the day he signed for it, not 44 days later. 10 months of back and forth with ebay and paypal including an email to ceo@paypal and I get a message back informing me that because the buyer funded his paypal account with his credit card and not his bank account that seller protection does not apply because his credit card company ordered a refund. So, how is a seller supposed to know how someone funds their paypal account? Paypal or ebay should have absorbed this cost. Apparently, somewhere in the 453 pages of the ebay and paypal user agreement it is buried there in legal jumble that sellers have to accept that they could lose their inventory sold through ebay due to fraudulent transactions and paypal and ebay is not liable. So I still hold Musk responsible, and will never ever, as long as I live buy one of his cars.
You know the saying you piss someone off and they tell everyone they know. The customer is ALWAYS right. To have them dismiss this and say of well too bad so sad, you got burned.
So they lost me as a customer. I only use paypal not to accept payment for services. I never ever issue a receipt, and I never send a request for money, as fraudsters can file chargeback if they want, not if they send as friends and family transfer.
Kind of hilarious watching this video on non essential bandwidth,
I can't see the difference on youtube... :(
Nor can I. : (
@@redrooster1908 Clear as day. What you wanting in 240p? Look at it in 1080, night and day difference.
@@12voltvids Yeh very very visible on my monitor, the color noise reduction is significant as are the high contrast edges. I see now why it is so desirable and you can't achieve the same in post-processing without loss of detail.
@@stragulus That's right.
What your looking for are (two things). First the horizontal "color blobs" they are most visible in the red and blue.. color is phase key shifted for the Pr and Pb channels. the Y channel is esentially monochromatic or yellow-ish at twice the resolution so you can't see any Y problems.. but when the red or blue are wrong.. blobs appear on each line.. darkish. Second when he flips the TBC off and on, at the Top of the screen you'll see a slight "flag" waving or "Top Curl" to the Left edge of the screen.. the tbc eliminates that.. but it tries to return when the tbc is switched off.. and a Yellowish Green band appears across the Top.. that's an error or drift in the sync to color burst sync pulse before its locked out.. for each frame.. a tbc removes that.
Gotta go far to find good garage sales.sigh.
i just checked ebay they have 2 of these decks 1 is 500.00 plus s-h and tax the deck 2 is 799.00 plus tax and s-h you got grate DEAL THEY DID-NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS THAT SOLD IT TO YOU WC
To them.. Dave was probably a godsend.. if it were a family members that was no longer around.. they probably hated the idea of just tossing it. To them they were hoping for a rescue buyer.. and Dave showed up. There is a communal aspect.. a good.. if you will. to finding a place for things when we don't need them anymore. But we can't afford to wait forever. Sure Dave got a great deal.. but he also did the work to fix it up.. and he has a good purpose for it. A win-win for everyone.
That's probably like 10 times rarer than betamax