This myth has been debunked, chances of glass starting a fire is extremely remote. Unfortunately there’s millions of broken glass bottles in the forrests, so under the right circumstances hundreds of fires would start at the same time, likely around noon. The L. A. fires started at night or in the morning.
I had a flashlight lense start as fire when i was camping. Flashlight was completely dead and left beside my tent. We saw tye smoke and put it out before the firs started. Fire starts easier then people think.@Trollpenguin
at night? at the base of an electrical tower? lol, its the overtaxed power grid. they literally said their power was out. why? because it overloaded and caused a fire before they could shut it down. its a great time to short pge's stock
I have 20 years as a wild land firefighter. It is completely possible that the fire on Jan. 1st was not completely mopped up and sparked a new fire, it is also completely possible that the power lines started fires in high winds. After the initial fires started it is possible arsonists were involved in some starts. Throughout history there has been pyro’s who love to start fires. My initial suspicion is the Jan 1st fire sparking up in high winds and making a run. With the other fire being started by power lines. I do not believe some huge conspiracy as this was an eventuality. People building homes in a high risk fire area is something we deal with every summer. This just happens to get a lot more attention because of the wealthy and celebrities homes.
Don't waste your time... logic has no affect on the illogical. You are talking to people who use GPS, yet still think the world is flat. People who champion capitalism, but can't understand why the government wont help the working class and the poor. LMFAO! Some people are beyond saving.
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I heard a clip where someone asked a firefighter about the palisades and whether the January 1 flames may have remained dormant for a week before being reignited. They stated that it is conceivable to live in the roots beneath the surface and resurface as a result of drying and wind > boom.
When I lived in Florida, there were peat fires, so basically a layer of decaying vegetation, sand had blown on top but once that layer was lit, it was very difficult to put out - burned underground. You would think it needed oxygen but I believe it found pockets.
Is this even a real person? When i clicked the profile it led to a website. I have seen this type of profile over ALOT of video. Now my only question is. Are they real person or a bot?
My take is that regardless of the source or start point of the fire, the fact that it had the capacity to spread that fast to cause such a magnitude of destruction is disturbing. Would it have been any difference if it were from a house or any other ordinary cause? The housing and settlement planning needs to be re-evaluated
I'm sure you post the exact same comment after hurricanes huh? SMH! Because train derailments that are chemically toxic in red states, are somehow less "disturbing"? LMFAO!
Having watched both wildfires and floods in Canada here, fire and water goes where it wants to regardless. We watched a new river form because there was a tree that came away in the right point of the river for it to decide to cut through a peninsula. Fire is similar, unless there is a good firebreak, it's going to jump where it wants to, through both the air and the ground through roots. The more concerning fact to me is that the reserve for water for firefighting was so diminished. My thoughts are to you all in California at this time.
It seems you dont understand fire if you think that. Even if the houses are made out of brick they'd have the same results. Its obvious you dont understand ther sheer temperature and force of these types of fires. In fact even if a number of houses was wet beforehand it would again still happen. So no its not disturbing at all. Its perfectly expected. And has been for a while. Its only disturbing and unexpected to those uneducated or inexperienced.
I lived in Montana and fought fires for 3 years, making extra money. There's a lot of prevention that isn't being done, but once it gets like this, dry and as windy, fires can skip as far as heat and embers can travel. I've seen forest fires jump valleys a half mile away. With the open Santa Anna winds and the style of fuel producing lightweight embers that don't burn out fast, travelling farther distances than the woods im used to, this will probably be at best contained- until rain comes. This is terrible, but I do think this was preventable, and there's evidence of both passed bills ignored and money being redirected away from protecting the citizens.
Instead of arming Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on emergency services, infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness etc.
This is all newscums and that cretin mayors fault oh but blame on the winds that come at the same time every year lol and not his stealing of funds California is full of morons
The danger is that anyone can start a fire, and it doesn't require much equipment to do so. Combined with the weather conditions, this can lead to enormous consequences like this one.
I heard a clip, from someone that asked a firefighter about the palisades, if the Jan 1 fires, could have been dormant for a week then reignighted. They said it's possible, living in the roots below the surface and resurfacing due to drying surface and wind > boom.
Good point, I live in the Appalachians and we burn massive brush piles. Piles 60 feet wide 15 feet tall. I have seen these fires myself go dormant under the surface and reignite days later.
Manzanita can actually hold coals in their roots for weeks. Incomplete mop up. It's rare, but it can happen. Unlikely since that was a small brushfire that got put out pretty quick.
The two guys you show running down the hill started that fire. There is a trail cam that shows them right there where it started and it stsrted at their feet. then they ran and was laughing. Purple sweater with hoodie and the other guy with a white shirt.
Three guys Two running down hill laughing while their camera guy shows them running from smoke All running down hill crashing through brush They started fire
CNN isn't showing you the full video of those kids who were right there when the fire started. At the beginning of the original video, they're only a few yards away from the fire, laughing and saying things like, "That ____ is going great" and "That's right where we were standing." Very sus. Heavy Duty Country has longer clips on his channel.
Well if they're guilty they would have to use that part of the video for evidence in court so they wouldn't show that part to the public in an ongoing investigation if true
Hanlon's Razor. It was likely the power company, which would make them liable for the largest natural disaster in awhile for California. It would be in the best interest of a power company to leave a comment like this. If it's indeed malicious in nature, and intended to be directed towards the power company, the malice fits with Scott Galloway's recent comments about wealth inequality.
Heavy Duty Country went more in depth to question if these guys running away are the ones that started the fire. I believe those guys know more than they’re saying.
These four idiots are guilty , one of the guys says , this is quote are fire , they are having fun it appears , laughing . Now they are scared and hopefully one of the four rats the ring leader out . They never called 911 that proves it
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If the fire started by that electric grid. Then that's what started the dam thing. Cmon people. It's right there in front of you. The electric company ain't going to pay for this loss.
What do you suggest they do? Power lines energize the air and that can cause static electric arcing. Power line towers attract lightning. Burying high tension lines cannot be done long distances due to heat dissipation problems. Defoliating wide swaths beneath transmission lines might be a solution. Assuming power transmission is the culprit in the first place. But these fires started where no powerlines exist
Your statement has a certain hint of a "sheep" with it. Baaaaad statements without any investigating. Also, it is always easy to blame the electric companies, especially in California. I might suggest that you boycott all electric usage and detach from the grid.
(From a recent NY times article) *Many of California’s Most Destructive Fires Were Caused by Power Lines* _Power distribution lines were found to have caused some of California's largest-ever fires in recent years. The Thomas fire in 2017 was started when high winds forced Southern California Edison's power lines to collide, a situation known as “line slap."_
Around 25 lives and $160 billion could have been saved if they were able to contain it early, by the reports coming it took them over 1 hour to respond.
And the main 117-million-gallon reservoir above Pacific Palisades was empty because the LA water manager was more focused on hiring lesbians. So, the hydrants ran dry.
@@johnnyjohnson3733 It was routine maintenance, scheduled for the winter, which is supposed to be the safe season, but climate change has changed all of that, but nice reach at attacking lesbians, bigot.
not every bad thing that happens is caused by some malicious actor. sometimes bad things (hurricanes, floods, wildfires, etc.) just happen on their own.
@ for the Eaton fire, yes. But the Palisades one seems to have ignited differently. But yes, I’m sure the winds had potential to cause trouble in more than one way.
The palisades fire is right next to the Santa Monica lookout. If you grew up in the area you’d probably know that the brush used to be cleared every couple years. When I came back for Christmas and checked out the lookout, the brush was so overgrown that it was hard to see Santa Monica over all the dead brush. There was so much and of course now the whole area is up in flames.
Do you not remember the TX fiasco concerning electricity? They want to be independent from the national grip? You all suffered with huge energy bills. Holy sh?t.
Without a camera right at the base of that power tower, it's hard to determine whether it was arson or whether the electrical equipment caused a spark.
If a person set that fire, in the dark, in the middle of trees, they died trying to get away. It was clearly an electrical issue. Yall are insufferable
@@DotingDiamond "Clearly"??? What is Money? Money is a tool used for the exchange of goods and services. Capitalism = All Money is Private Property Leftism = No it's Not THAT is 'clearly'.
@@DotingDiamond Actually I am a certified volunteer fire fighter with hazmat certification. Devices can be used and triggered from a distance. You are obviously uneducated and lack the knowledge to comprehend anything other than your own narrative.
could that be why arson investigators review the charred remains to identify any potential faulty equipment, like they did with PG&E in northern Cali? Nah, that's sci-fi huh? SMH! Dude you have google, use your computer for more than social media & porn!
They have technical data on this. The lines are monitored. If the lines “arced(yes this is correct terminology) the system will have a record of it. So there ya go.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the tower fire was arson. All the powerlines are intact and the fire is around the base, like someone poured something around it.
No, but someone who knows how the Camp Fire Started and the Woosley Fire started can tell you that arciing transmission lines that have anywhere from 30,000 to 150,000 volts can drip molten metal from the outside of the conductors (the wires) down onto the ground and start a fire.
SCE corporate greed caused this. Billions of dollars used to buy back stock instead of using that money to make their systems safer. Public utilities should not be allowed to use any money to buy back stock.
From what I’ve heard, there was a fire in that exact spot on NYE. It got put out, but then probably still had roots burning underneath. So when the wind hit it days later, it sparked it back up.
I watched the video and those you men have been interviewed by authorities. I do not find their comments extremely suspicious more like young men trying to be funny and cool in a stressful situation.
Three months before the wildfire, my insurance company canceled my home insurance. When I got the evacuation notice, I didn’t know what to do. I packed my clothes, my computer, and a few essentials into my car, unsure if I was driving away from the fire or straight into danger. Along the way, I stopped to charge my laptop with my Jackery power station, trying to find a safe place to stay. You never know if everything you have could suddenly disappear one day, but as long as you're alive, you can always start over.
Why is your comment identical to some other comments? Did you copy it, or you are boting about? Your account is 2 days old, who do you work for? Who are you hiding? Who started the fire?
The same people that helped in NC are coming to help you guys. Not a whole lot, so we should remember each other and prepare to stand together when it's time to go to our "leaders" and demand accountability.
@@alfredgeorge3186 Well, Where is it then? It seems it's been playing hide and seek. We're not talking about ocean water of course, we know you have that :) Oh, and we don't listen to what we are 'told'. We rather listen to evidence. Care to give some?
that never happens... just ask PG&E about the fires in Northern California just a few years back, or Hawaii about the Maui fire a couple of years ago. But you're right, it is very rare that electrical structures cause fires. SMH! Must be aliens. LMFAO! Educate yourself first, express opinions second. Rinse, repeat. It's not a difficult concept.
Actually, that's how the Camp Fire started in Northern California, with very similar destructive behavior. Loose wires sparking in the wind, heating up, then melting and dripping hot metal down into the brush below. The winds were very strong at that time. That's also how the fire in Lahaina, Hawaii began, from damaged wires caused by very high winds making branches and trees fall.
Here in Ireland wildfires (if they happen) would never burn any houses..none !..why?…bricks and mortar..bricks and mortar doesn’t burn..you have to stop building timber framed houses..I’ve lived in both countries,worked in construction so I know what I’m talking about…
California has specific building codes that impact the construction of brick houses: seismic safety. Earthquakes are common in California. Brick construction is susceptible to colapsing during such events.
@ they build brick houses in Japan also high rises..a square brick building will withstand an earthquake whereas a rectangular building won’t..a serious rethink is needed in CA
Someone did call 911 and video documented it. Only after 45 minutes there are response. You can search title "Palisades man says wife called 911" it mention a former us attorney
Everybody thought that Somebody would do it, Anybody could have, but Nobody did it. Everybody thought Anybody could, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't.
Absolutely horrible! Deepest sympathies for all victims and deepest condolences for all lost and loved ones ❤ Recover, California! With love! ❤ (We as a community want life sentence without parole for criminals)!!!
👉 How on earth that electrical fire was not reported straight away to then send over to it a Canadair to extinguish that fire ??? This is unforgiving. Sad,
What happened to the young lady who was interviewed when the FIRST fire started in Palisades ? She was hiking with her dog and gave a description of what she saw. Never heard the interview again. Many others repeated. She saw exactly what happened. Sweeping it under the rug ??
It’s obvious it could of been intentional it’s all under investigation just because you don’t hear it on the news doesn’t mean ATF hasn’t interviewed, next administration will be overseeing the investigation so you can assure nothing will be done.
So, people video taped the start of two fires....but.... did any of these people think to call 911 and REPORT the fires??? Like, could early reporting of the fires, as soon as they were discovered, have prevented the small initial fires from becoming wild fires?
Those kids 100% started the Palisades fire. They aren't "hikers" they are online pranksters who filmed the entire thing and posted it immediately to social media for likes. If you watch all of their videos it's VERY obvious they started the fire and then ran away from it laughing and pretending it just randomly appeared right where they just were.
No way. If you have ever gone out to touch grass on a mountainside, you would know that smoke was a few miles away from those boys. It would have taken them hours to get back there, light the fire, are return. And that is nearly impossible to do in the dark. They would have had to start out in the dark or ridden in a helicopter to get there
One time when I was a kid I was messing around and lit a palm fronds on fire and the entire tree caught fire. I was just a dumb kid messing around. Thank god it was in Florida and totally wet and humid.
couldn't be a faulty coupler, like was the case in Hawaii and Northern Cali... but hey, why educate yourself first when you can just type a comment? SMH!
They rain sparks onto the ground during high wind events. That's why they're supposed to de-energize those lines. If you remember when they were showing videos from the fires the lines were still sparking, they probably didn't want to shut the celebrities power off for the duration of the wind storms for fear of complaints.
Years ago there was an intense heat wave on my trip to Sicily. I saw a fire starting up on the side of the road. A small fire truck was there so fast to put the fire out. I was aware of the fire department on that trip basically hanging out and waiting. My guess is the fire on the side of the road was a cigarette thrown out the window by the riff raff. I was driving high up in the hills. Very sad how beautiful California is burning up.
Once that fire established itself and the dry winds took control there was no stopping it. A good chance with air support but with such high winds that wasn’t a option at the start. I do hope that catch who did this and maybe get answers for all the victims. One thing for sure trump isn’t going to support anything without getting something from it to benefit him.
(Qur'an 46:24) Then when they saw the torment as a dense cloud approaching their valleys, they said happily, “This is a cloud bringing us rain.” But Prophet Hûd replied, “No, it is what you sought to hasten: a fierce wind carrying a painful punishment!” (Qur'an 46:25) It destroyed everything by the command of its Lord, leaving nothing visible except their ruins. This is how We reward the wicked people.
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If you're wealthy enough, you could even hire private firefighting teams to save your house while the rest of the neighborhood burns to the ground. As an ordinary resident, all I can rely on is a Jackery Explorer power station to keep my family informed and safe while we’re fleeing for our lives.
I love Californians and Angelenos. Although the fire destroyed their house, but people faced the disaster calmly. I'm grateful to the professional media organizations for their extensive coverage and making everyone aware of this disaster.
What on earth are you getting at? There were first responders, but this happened very fast. You can be sure the responding firefighters have done their best. Please don’t use the right wing media as your info source on this.
Part of this is due to the fact that most homes are build from wood panels. I could have never thought that this material is so spread in construction over there. Quite cheap but really flammable, specially in such climate. That’s why use mortal , bricks and concrete .
Conspiracies are one thing, but there appears to be some political incentive to have these fires start to fit into the blame game, and then have a certain type of person start it to feed into another devisive agenda
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Nice neighbor. Doesn't care about putting out the fire in their backyard. Sometimes I go around cutting bushes without any authorization but now I see more people doing this.
Probably exactly what is in the policies set up by the lawmakers that the citizens voted into office. If you vote for socialism, you get socialism, if you vote for capitalism you get capitalism. It's every individuals own responsibility to have insurance for their belongings, isn't it? Don't ask what the government will do for you, ask what you can do for the government.
@@IDICTvCrashCases He signed a declaration for anything they need... What rock have you been under to not know that? He's already been there too. Try to keep up
Sadly CA’s one party rule let its voters down again thru sheer incompetence. Def needs to be strings attached for federal aid to ensure preventive measures are put in place.
Good luck rebuilding..By the time you get any permits it will be 3 years before you lay the first brick.Meanwhile where you going to live and how much will it cost you to wait that long.Meanwhile there will be offers to buy that land by huge companies who will development it and sell it back at enormous profits.
These footage not only capture the initial moments of two wildfires in LA but also highlight the crucial role of witnesses in understanding the causes and impacts of the disaster. As wildfires become more common and severe, the question arises not only of how to cope but also whether we are doing enough to prevent the tragedy before it occurs.
Seems like people took some hostages from nature and the nature retaliated and now nature is not stopping. Everyone agrees with nature's "right to defend itself". From Gaza with love.
@KittyNinjas in Ghaza humanity had a choice and didn't take it. When wrath of God comes it doesn't categorize people who sat in silence and enjoyed the beaches as innocent. Its hatred of God not mine.
The people that live in the area say these winds come every year. So make sure you do your research and not rely on reporters. They have videos showing kids or adults starting the fire. It clearly shows them starting it.
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Just FYI, even a broken glass bottle or a bottle of water can cause a fire if the sun shine on it. Many factors to consider
That's what an arsonist would say
This fire started at night.
This myth has been debunked, chances of glass starting a fire is extremely remote. Unfortunately there’s millions of broken glass bottles in the forrests, so under the right circumstances hundreds of fires would start at the same time, likely around noon. The L. A. fires started at night or in the morning.
I had a flashlight lense start as fire when i was camping. Flashlight was completely dead and left beside my tent. We saw tye smoke and put it out before the firs started. Fire starts easier then people think.@Trollpenguin
at night? at the base of an electrical tower? lol, its the overtaxed power grid. they literally said their power was out. why? because it overloaded and caused a fire before they could shut it down. its a great time to short pge's stock
I have 20 years as a wild land firefighter. It is completely possible that the fire on Jan. 1st was not completely mopped up and sparked a new fire, it is also completely possible that the power lines started fires in high winds. After the initial fires started it is possible arsonists were involved in some starts. Throughout history there has been pyro’s who love to start fires. My initial suspicion is the Jan 1st fire sparking up in high winds and making a run. With the other fire being started by power lines. I do not believe some huge conspiracy as this was an eventuality. People building homes in a high risk fire area is something we deal with every summer. This just happens to get a lot more attention because of the wealthy and celebrities homes.
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It’s not big conspiracy theories so much as the thousands of homeless drug addicts running loose in California..
Don't waste your time... logic has no affect on the illogical. You are talking to people who use GPS, yet still think the world is flat. People who champion capitalism, but can't understand why the government wont help the working class and the poor. LMFAO! Some people are beyond saving.
This is much more likely than some evil conspiracy.
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Its more than heart breaking . Bless you LA guys😢
What about the women? I think it’s funny how people call men and ladies guys
I would not rule out a firestarter.
Nor would I
An illegal was already caught using a blow torch
Of course you wouldn't, you're an idiot. Occam's Razor.
They already caught an immigrant with a blow torch
@@bryan805that doesn’t make sense. Why would “an immigrant” start a fire? It is far FAR more likely it’s rage baiting BS for political gain.
I heard a clip where someone asked a firefighter about the palisades and whether the January 1 flames may have remained dormant for a week before being reignited. They stated that it is conceivable to live in the roots beneath the surface and resurface as a result of drying and wind > boom.
When I lived in Florida, there were peat fires, so basically a layer of decaying vegetation, sand had blown on top but once that layer was lit, it was very difficult to put out - burned underground. You would think it needed oxygen but I believe it found pockets.
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Whatever...lived there for a couple of decades and never saw fires as bad as the recent fires in the past couple of decades.
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Is this even a real person? When i clicked the profile it led to a website. I have seen this type of profile over ALOT of video. Now my only question is. Are they real person or a bot?
My take is that regardless of the source or start point of the fire, the fact that it had the capacity to spread that fast to cause such a magnitude of destruction is disturbing. Would it have been any difference if it were from a house or any other ordinary cause? The housing and settlement planning needs to be re-evaluated
I'm sure you post the exact same comment after hurricanes huh? SMH! Because train derailments that are chemically toxic in red states, are somehow less "disturbing"? LMFAO!
Having watched both wildfires and floods in Canada here, fire and water goes where it wants to regardless. We watched a new river form because there was a tree that came away in the right point of the river for it to decide to cut through a peninsula. Fire is similar, unless there is a good firebreak, it's going to jump where it wants to, through both the air and the ground through roots. The more concerning fact to me is that the reserve for water for firefighting was so diminished. My thoughts are to you all in California at this time.
It seems you dont understand fire if you think that. Even if the houses are made out of brick they'd have the same results. Its obvious you dont understand ther sheer temperature and force of these types of fires.
In fact even if a number of houses was wet beforehand it would again still happen.
So no its not disturbing at all. Its perfectly expected. And has been for a while. Its only disturbing and unexpected to those uneducated or inexperienced.
Should not use wood to build houses.
I lived in Montana and fought fires for 3 years, making extra money. There's a lot of prevention that isn't being done, but once it gets like this, dry and as windy, fires can skip as far as heat and embers can travel. I've seen forest fires jump valleys a half mile away. With the open Santa Anna winds and the style of fuel producing lightweight embers that don't burn out fast, travelling farther distances than the woods im used to, this will probably be at best contained- until rain comes. This is terrible, but I do think this was preventable, and there's evidence of both passed bills ignored and money being redirected away from protecting the citizens.
THEY DO HAVE SATELLITE IMAGERY
I saw a video on another site of satellite images of some type Lazer hitting two different points at the same time where fires were
@@paulasmith-d9x Yes yes, that satellite was called death star
@Obsidian-Nebula Actually, they're not just science fiction anymore. Google it. And that's only the declassified American stuff.
They also have directed energy weapons platforms on satellites.
They also put "caps" buttons on your phone.
If true, how could this not have been reported immediately?
$$$ Edison in big trouble!
It was. On mainstream LA news when it first began
Too convenient.... No water source, they laid off fire workers.... I can't stand how they insult our intelligence
Instead of arming Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on emergency services, infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness etc.
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You'd like that, wouldn't you, Ivan?
It's amazing how some idiots can cause so much damage to the people and the planet.
Which idiots? No cause has been determined yet.
It’s amazing how you believe this stuff. Lol
This is all newscums and that cretin mayors fault oh but blame on the winds that come at the same time every year lol and not his stealing of funds California is full of morons
The danger is that anyone can start a fire, and it doesn't require much equipment to do so. Combined with the weather conditions, this can lead to enormous consequences like this one.
Stop making them.
I heard a clip, from someone that asked a firefighter about the palisades, if the Jan 1 fires, could have been dormant for a week then reignighted. They said it's possible, living in the roots below the surface and resurfacing due to drying surface and wind > boom.
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I’ve seen exactly that in Australia.
Good point, I live in the Appalachians and we burn massive brush piles. Piles 60 feet wide 15 feet tall.
I have seen these fires myself go dormant under the surface and reignite days later.
That seems to be the most likely scenario
Manzanita can actually hold coals in their roots for weeks. Incomplete mop up. It's rare, but it can happen. Unlikely since that was a small brushfire that got put out pretty quick.
The two guys you show running down the hill started that fire. There is a trail cam that shows them right there where it started and it stsrted at their feet. then they ran and was laughing. Purple sweater with hoodie and the other guy with a white shirt.
Three guys
Two running down hill laughing while their camera guy shows them running from smoke
All running down hill crashing through brush
They started fire
There are videos all over the internet that show exactly who started the Palisades fire!
CNN isn't showing you the full video of those kids who were right there when the fire started. At the beginning of the original video, they're only a few yards away from the fire, laughing and saying things like, "That ____ is going great" and "That's right where we were standing." Very sus. Heavy Duty Country has longer clips on his channel.
Those dudes lit the fire 🔥 😳 CNN FAKE NEWS
where is this video?
Well if they're guilty they would have to use that part of the video for evidence in court so they wouldn't show that part to the public in an ongoing investigation if true
@ Go back and read my comment. I said where you can see the video
Hanlon's Razor. It was likely the power company, which would make them liable for the largest natural disaster in awhile for California. It would be in the best interest of a power company to leave a comment like this.
If it's indeed malicious in nature, and intended to be directed towards the power company, the malice fits with Scott Galloway's recent comments about wealth inequality.
Hope everyone is ok, sending prayers 🙏🏼
Heavy Duty Country went more in depth to question if these guys running away are the ones that started the fire. I believe those guys know more than they’re saying.
I saw that. In the full video they say "That sh*t is going great" and 'That's right where we were standing," all the while laughing about it.
These four idiots are guilty , one of the guys says , this is quote are fire , they are having fun it appears , laughing . Now they are scared and hopefully one of the four rats the ring leader out . They never called 911 that proves it
yup, start a fire, then send the video evidence to the news. That makes sense. SMH!
To the survivors of the LA wildfires, your resilience in the face of devastation is truly inspiring. The flames may have taken homes, memories, and landscapes, but they could never take away your strength, courage, and hope. In the ashes of loss, a new chapter begins-one of rebuilding, healing, and community support. You are not alone; the world stands with you, ready to lift you up in this time of recovery. May you find comfort in the kindness of others, strength in your own perseverance, and hope in the promise of renewal. Stay strong, and know that brighter days are ahead.
If the fire started by that electric grid. Then that's what started the dam thing. Cmon people. It's right there in front of you. The electric company ain't going to pay for this loss.
What do you suggest they do? Power lines energize the air and that can cause static electric arcing. Power line towers attract lightning. Burying high tension lines cannot be done long distances due to heat dissipation problems. Defoliating wide swaths beneath transmission lines might be a solution. Assuming power transmission is the culprit in the first place. But these fires started where no powerlines exist
Your statement has a certain hint of a "sheep" with it. Baaaaad statements without any investigating. Also, it is always easy to blame the electric companies, especially in California. I might suggest that you boycott all electric usage and detach from the grid.
(From a recent NY times article)
*Many of California’s Most Destructive Fires Were Caused by Power Lines*
_Power distribution lines were found to have caused some of California's largest-ever fires in recent years. The Thomas fire in 2017 was started when high winds forced Southern California Edison's power lines to collide, a situation known as “line slap."_
@@BG-sl9lv the video showed the fire right below a tower of power lines.
@@Michael-c4z7e I said where it started not where it migrated to.
Around 25 lives and $160 billion could have been saved if they were able to contain it early, by the reports coming it took them over 1 hour to respond.
And the main 117-million-gallon reservoir above Pacific Palisades was empty because the LA water manager was more focused on hiring lesbians. So, the hydrants ran dry.
Stop spreading your lies and hate. You should be ashamed.
U seem like a fire hater. Why so much hate? Have fire positivity.
@@johnnyjohnson3733 It was routine maintenance, scheduled for the winter, which is supposed to be the safe season, but climate change has changed all of that, but nice reach at attacking lesbians, bigot.
there is no way to avoid fires in CA! it happens every year on clock!!!
not every bad thing that happens is caused by some malicious actor. sometimes bad things (hurricanes, floods, wildfires, etc.) just happen on their own.
Not this fire, it was started by arsonists. Fake news is 3 days behind on reporting this... intentionally
But that idea does little to excite the "mom's basement" dwellers.
Hurricanes, floods, and wildfires are getting worse because of an entire society of bad actors
And sometimes, it's comes from God.
right, but still can't rule out arson.
Imagine still paying climate taxes when wildfires and war are allowed to pollute for free LOL
How is that funny.lol 😐
Wait what who pays climate tax ? Californians or the entire country ?
It's funny because the morons in California voted for all of this lol
@@Masterbaiterfishing215i lived in Southern California for 20 years and never heard of climate tax.
@ I think they call it a carbon tax nowadays.
SCE looks mighty guilty and negligent with that tower base burning like that
I wouldn’t put it past them
I live in the area of the Eaton fire. You wouldn't believe the massive army of trucks Edison has in the area.
@ no doubt bc they know they are guilty
Unless someone lit a fire on purpose at the base of it to make it look like that but it does look that way likely.
They are there trying to repair and restore power… it’s not guilt.
so far nothing said about loss of wildlife
I’m certainly not a conspiracy theorist, nor a meteorologist, but the fact both started somewhat simultaneously via different means strikes me as odd.
Could it be because power lines cross very brushy terrain, all over CA, like a web, and there were extremely high winds rattling those wires?
@ for the Eaton fire, yes. But the Palisades one seems to have ignited differently. But yes, I’m sure the winds had potential to cause trouble in more than one way.
That's the reason why American education sucks, "certainly not a conspiracy theorist"
@ explain
The palisades fire is right next to the Santa Monica lookout. If you grew up in the area you’d probably know that the brush used to be cleared every couple years. When I came back for Christmas and checked out the lookout, the brush was so overgrown that it was hard to see Santa Monica over all the dead brush. There was so much and of course now the whole area is up in flames.
California has terrible electrical grids. Should be investigated how the electrical companies were allowed to build such shit.
deregulation coming home to roost.
Compare that to Texas 😂😂
Right, Florida had the same infrastructure during HURRICANES! I grew up there and the contrast was insane! Trump doesn’t give a shite about you!
Do you not remember the TX fiasco concerning electricity? They want to be independent from the national grip? You all suffered with huge energy bills. Holy sh?t.
@@Yourservice99 not to mention you elected a FELON.
There is so much evil in this world.
Evil will always exist in the Universe, but it does not need to exist inside you. That’s your best chance 🍀
including me and you.
Obviously, this would never have happened if the tower had accepted Jesus Christ as its personal savior.
Come come come judgement day so the saints can be witness to the fury.
This is what happens when you vote democrat
Fire Tetrahedron: Fuel, Wind, Heat and Chain Reaction.Atleast one of the factors must be suppressed
Without a camera right at the base of that power tower, it's hard to determine whether it was arson or whether the electrical equipment caused a spark.
If a person set that fire, in the dark, in the middle of trees, they died trying to get away.
It was clearly an electrical issue. Yall are insufferable
@@DotingDiamond "Clearly"???
What is Money?
Money is a tool used for the exchange of goods and services.
Capitalism = All Money is Private Property
Leftism = No it's Not
THAT is 'clearly'.
@@DotingDiamond Actually I am a certified volunteer fire fighter with hazmat certification. Devices can be used and triggered from a distance. You are obviously uneducated and lack the knowledge to comprehend anything other than your own narrative.
could that be why arson investigators review the charred remains to identify any potential faulty equipment, like they did with PG&E in northern Cali? Nah, that's sci-fi huh? SMH! Dude you have google, use your computer for more than social media & porn!
They have technical data on this. The lines are monitored. If the lines “arced(yes this is correct terminology) the system will have a record of it. So there ya go.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the tower fire was arson. All the powerlines are intact and the fire is around the base, like someone poured something around it.
yes, but this is sort of arson with a history- almost like circuit breakdown- those glass insulators have a history
base fire = arson, I see your logic. Are you a rocket scientist?
No, but someone who knows how the Camp Fire Started and the Woosley Fire started can tell you that arciing transmission lines that have anywhere from 30,000 to 150,000 volts can drip molten metal from the outside of the conductors (the wires) down onto the ground and start a fire.
That Malibu section between PCH and the beach should become a PUBLIC PARK.
It will soon be developed into luxury condos
Good luck trying to wrestle that stunning ocean front property away from those landowners.
Someone starting a fire below the tower to place blame on the electric company?
That is exactly what it looks like
Most likely was the tower. I would say 80% tower to 20% man caused on this one
Sounds like you're a lawyer for the power company. You are fking crazy.
SCE corporate greed caused this. Billions of dollars used to buy back stock instead of using that money to make their systems safer. Public utilities should not be allowed to use any money to buy back stock.
Exactly... Most of these fires near homes were started by arsonists who wanted ro burn everything to the ground and loot in chaos.
All prayers too people sufferiing and losing there homes amen 😢
From what I’ve heard, there was a fire in that exact spot on NYE. It got put out, but then probably still had roots burning underneath. So when the wind hit it days later, it sparked it back up.
Did you hear that watching this ? lol she literally said as much lol .
@@codyrussow170 😂🤣😂
Nope, I guess I shut it off before that
@Solearesoul I’m going with that scenario as well I believe that as well.
or maybe someone started it and went back to the same spot again after the first attempt failed....
Imagine brining in the new years and your home, everything, the fires took it all 😢 pray for LA 🙏🏽
Excellent work, thanks 👍
Prayers for everyone stay safe
Many people are saying that first video those hikers actually started the fire for content on RUclips. Police need to investigate.
Literally Nobody is saying that
@@BrilliantBuffoons
Yeah they are
@ Yes, many people are in fact suggesting that, and if CNN had shown you the full video, you'd be suspicious too.
I watched the video and those you men have been interviewed by authorities. I do not find their comments extremely suspicious more like young men trying to be funny and cool in a stressful situation.
The utility pole , being a tall structure ,is visible from a distance. . But thats a coincidenc. Not a reason?
Arson and “wildfires” are two very different things!
No they are not we have man caused fires and natural caused fires both are wildfires and dealt with accordingly
@ that’s some interesting liberal logic! 🤔
“Wild” implies natural.
@ Fire is fire, wind feeds it. Now is that liberal logic or just logic?
There’s clearly no evidence of “Arson”
No there not
Three months before the wildfire, my insurance company canceled my home insurance. When I got the evacuation notice, I didn’t know what to do. I packed my clothes, my computer, and a few essentials into my car, unsure if I was driving away from the fire or straight into danger. Along the way, I stopped to charge my laptop with my Jackery power station, trying to find a safe place to stay. You never know if everything you have could suddenly disappear one day, but as long as you're alive, you can always start over.
Just so you know, a broken glass bottle or a bottle of water can start a fire if exposed to sunlight. Numerous aspects to consider.
Those vaping machines also.
Why is your comment identical to some other comments? Did you copy it, or you are boting about? Your account is 2 days old, who do you work for? Who are you hiding? Who started the fire?
California here...
CNN....could you please report that in fact California has water...
I live by the San Gabriel river and I have seen running water going to the ocean most of the year.
what a disaster! Very high risk, highly vulnerable population
CA will rebuild, and we'll remember who helped us and who kicked us while we were down.
We're not down...just a little wounded.
However... you're right...we will remember.
You think America still cares about the sickness of Hollywood? You're stuck in the past.
The same people that helped in NC are coming to help you guys. Not a whole lot, so we should remember each other and prepare to stand together when it's time to go to our "leaders" and demand accountability.
Go ahead and secede to Mexico while you’re at it
I hope so.... Vote Red if you need help.@@alfredgeorge3186
Did anyone see the interview with the lady fire chief? No one had informed the department in advance that the large reservoir was empty.
WE HAVE WATER...
How many times do you have to be told?
@@alfredgeorge3186 Well, Where is it then? It seems it's been playing hide and seek. We're not talking about ocean water of course, we know you have that :)
Oh, and we don't listen to what we are 'told'. We rather listen to evidence. Care to give some?
It was on repair, any water dam with cracks on it has to be repair.
Nobody talks about the Hollywood Hills fire, happening at the same time.
Drought plus brush equals quick fires. It was just a matter of time until our fires got worse
100 mph winds and three phases on a power tower equals FIRE
no, it's the aliens using jewish space lasers, so that Dems can replace us all with brown immigrants. It's George Soros... LMFAO! #RedneckProblems
You forgot to mention high winds.
Fires don't just start at the base of steel tower. It would be pretty rare if one of the lines fell down right there.
that never happens... just ask PG&E about the fires in Northern California just a few years back, or Hawaii about the Maui fire a couple of years ago. But you're right, it is very rare that electrical structures cause fires. SMH! Must be aliens. LMFAO! Educate yourself first, express opinions second. Rinse, repeat. It's not a difficult concept.
Actually, that's how the Camp Fire started in Northern California, with very similar destructive behavior. Loose wires sparking in the wind, heating up, then melting and dripping hot metal down into the brush below. The winds were very strong at that time.
That's also how the fire in Lahaina, Hawaii began, from damaged wires caused by very high winds making branches and trees fall.
@@btrask9892 you are absolutely correct fellow seeker of knowledge
how easy would it be for axis drones to start fires anywhere. thats not hybrid warfare. its the same as planting explosives
I wonder if someone was smoking and discarded the end of the cigarette.
Arson
Those hikers maybe
Can’t be ruled out
"electrical" fires. I hate fire, my worst fear
Here in Ireland wildfires (if they happen) would never burn any houses..none !..why?…bricks and mortar..bricks and mortar doesn’t burn..you have to stop building timber framed houses..I’ve lived in both countries,worked in construction so I know what I’m talking about…
California has specific building codes that impact the construction of brick houses: seismic safety. Earthquakes are common in California. Brick construction is susceptible to colapsing during such events.
@ they build brick houses in Japan also high rises..a square brick building will withstand an earthquake whereas a rectangular building won’t..a serious rethink is needed in CA
@@Utube_user_0001ever heard about Japan?
@@miljeuta Japan is in an earthquake zone
Why is the ground around the tower not cleared? Total incompetence…..
I'm not hearing that anyone called 911. Is that implied or did no one recording these images call.
Someone did call 911 and video documented it. Only after 45 minutes there are response. You can search title "Palisades man says wife called 911" it mention a former us attorney
The location is in clear view of the city I don't think anyone missed it.
Everybody thought that Somebody would do it,
Anybody could have, but Nobody did it.
Everybody thought Anybody could, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't.
😂😂😂😂😂😂@@AppalachianRust
@@AppalachianRust
That was a lot of everybody, somebody and nobody. My head hurts.
Absolutely horrible!
Deepest sympathies for all victims and deepest condolences for all lost and loved ones ❤
Recover, California!
With love! ❤
(We as a community want life sentence without parole for criminals)!!!
Come and live in Wales
Y'all got your own set of problems over there. I'll stay here and claim my free speech without penalty, thanks.
poorly managed electricity created the many fire origin points of fires
👉 How on earth that electrical fire was not reported straight away to then send over to it a Canadair to extinguish that fire ??? This is unforgiving. Sad,
Great investigative work. I knew it had to come from up high. Please pray for us and for rain 🌧️. We need ☔ rain.
What happened to the young lady who was interviewed when the FIRST fire started in Palisades ? She was hiking with her dog and gave a description of what she saw. Never heard the interview again. Many others repeated. She saw exactly what happened. Sweeping it under the rug ??
It’s obvious it could of been intentional it’s all under investigation just because you don’t hear it on the news doesn’t mean ATF hasn’t interviewed, next administration will be overseeing the investigation so you can assure nothing will be done.
What did she see ??? Or say she saw .
What did she say she saw?
they killed her.....
Typical American misinformation...
I remember a scene from Prison Break where Mr. Kim said to start a wildfire so that the controversy surrounding the Vice President will be overlook.
Don't look up!
Brilliant!!!!
Prayers rips 🙏 ❤️
So, people video taped the start of two fires....but.... did any of these people think to call 911 and REPORT the fires??? Like, could early reporting of the fires, as soon as they were discovered, have prevented the small initial fires from becoming wild fires?
maybe they did...
😐
Why report anything to authorities, that doesn't get my video any likes and views
They did it took fire department 45 mins to respond and too late by them bc of the wind
Someone started that fire they need to find the culprit!
Those kids 100% started the Palisades fire. They aren't "hikers" they are online pranksters who filmed the entire thing and posted it immediately to social media for likes. If you watch all of their videos it's VERY obvious they started the fire and then ran away from it laughing and pretending it just randomly appeared right where they just were.
That's what I was thinking. They probably didn't think it would get as out of control as it did
If that is true they will certainly be questioned and investigated by law enforcement eventually
You can be arrested just for your irresponsible comment.
No way. If you have ever gone out to touch grass on a mountainside, you would know that smoke was a few miles away from those boys. It would have taken them hours to get back there, light the fire, are return. And that is nearly impossible to do in the dark. They would have had to start out in the dark or ridden in a helicopter to get there
One time when I was a kid I was messing around and lit a palm fronds on fire and the entire tree caught fire. I was just a dumb kid messing around. Thank god it was in Florida and totally wet and humid.
Send prayers 🙏🙏🙏 from Ukraine 🇺🇦🙏🇺🇲 !
Seems like no power lines were cut on that tower.
What's on the bottom? electric box? Lithium batteries?
Could this be done remotely with computers? I feel like it could
Kinda uneducated half drugged humans having a good time ?
🙄
couldn't be a faulty coupler, like was the case in Hawaii and Northern Cali... but hey, why educate yourself first when you can just type a comment? SMH!
Yeah they run the CA grid off of some AAA lithium batteries in a box. that's exactly how it works
Doesn't matter how high you get, it always takes a single moment to come back down again
But the base is not wires. I wonder if they were set at the bases of the towers to make it look like it was the towers.
Do you even know how power lines work? Plenty of natural ways to spark near the towers.
They rain sparks onto the ground during high wind events. That's why they're supposed to de-energize those lines. If you remember when they were showing videos from the fires the lines were still sparking, they probably didn't want to shut the celebrities power off for the duration of the wind storms for fear of complaints.
May everyone be Safe!!!!
That transmission tower fire is highly susceptible to sparking from the high voltage equipment. Given the wind it could be the reason.
Heartbreaking...
Years ago there was an intense heat wave on my trip to Sicily. I saw a fire starting up on the side of the road. A small fire truck was there so fast to put the fire out. I was aware of the fire department on that trip basically hanging out and waiting. My guess is the fire on the side of the road was a cigarette thrown out the window by the riff raff. I was driving high up in the hills. Very sad how beautiful California is burning up.
It will grow back. But why driving high? 😵💫
@@nunyabusy Not high that way lol. High in the hills of Sicily in a drought.
Need to ban cigarettes...😅
@@jdfi1403 just joshing 🙃
Please remember Palestine people in Gaza they are human like you people ❤lo
Once that fire established itself and the dry winds took control there was no stopping it. A good chance with air support but with such high winds that wasn’t a option at the start. I do hope that catch who did this and maybe get answers for all the victims. One thing for sure trump isn’t going to support anything without getting something from it to benefit him.
They already made an offer....
They'll withhold aid to California, unless our lawmakers go along with raising the debt ceiling for trump.
(Qur'an 46:24)
Then when they saw the torment as a dense cloud approaching their valleys, they said happily, “This is a cloud bringing us rain.” But Prophet Hûd replied, “No, it is what you sought to hasten: a fierce wind carrying a painful punishment!”
(Qur'an 46:25)
It destroyed everything by the command of its Lord, leaving nothing visible except their ruins. This is how We reward the wicked people.
Jesus is God and Jesus will save you from your sins if you call on His name. Muslims are getting saved in record numbers by Jesus. Check out the beautiful testimonies on One For Israel channel.
If you hold pg&e accountable again california power bills will be unaffordable
PG&E is not in LA its Edison.
SCE
Fires are unaffordable too 😂
They already are.
100 mph winds through the canyon causing a failure…. doesn’t make it their fault
If you're wealthy enough, you could even hire private firefighting teams to save your house while the rest of the neighborhood burns to the ground. As an ordinary resident, all I can rely on is a Jackery Explorer power station to keep my family informed and safe while we’re fleeing for our lives.
I love Californians and Angelenos. Although the fire destroyed their house, but people faced the disaster calmly. I'm grateful to the professional media organizations for their extensive coverage and making everyone aware of this disaster.
Where were the first responders??
Guess you haven't been paying attention for the past week.
What on earth are you getting at? There were first responders, but this happened very fast.
You can be sure the responding firefighters have done their best. Please don’t use the right wing media as your info source on this.
Part of this is due to the fact that most homes are build from wood panels. I could have never thought that this material is so spread in construction over there. Quite cheap but really flammable, specially in such climate. That’s why use mortal , bricks and concrete .
Conspiracies are one thing, but there appears to be some political incentive to have these fires start to fit into the blame game, and then have a certain type of person start it to feed into another devisive agenda
May Allah reduce the Intensty in Loss Angles protect its citizens.Ameen . Atif 🇵🇰
!?amazing they have those videos
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"we found no issue"
Did you try looking?
they will know if they had current spikes before the fire broke out
Nice neighbor. Doesn't care about putting out the fire in their backyard. Sometimes I go around cutting bushes without any authorization but now I see more people doing this.
We must help the innocent. No matter how different religions change. From Yemen
Yes Brother
THE ARSON SUSPECT NAME IS BENI OREN
BUT WHAT ARE ALL HIS FRIENDS NAMES ???
Many families will have no home to return to, and they will become homeless, what will the government do to help them?
Trump will not do anything if he is not stopped.
@@paulenemaehinds9848 I have not seen any significant move from President Biden yet...!
Probably exactly what is in the policies set up by the lawmakers that the citizens voted into office. If you vote for socialism, you get socialism, if you vote for capitalism you get capitalism. It's every individuals own responsibility to have insurance for their belongings, isn't it? Don't ask what the government will do for you, ask what you can do for the government.
@@IDICTvCrashCases
He signed a declaration for anything they need...
What rock have you been under to not know that? He's already been there too.
Try to keep up
Sadly CA’s one party rule let its voters down again thru sheer incompetence. Def needs to be strings attached for federal aid to ensure preventive measures are put in place.
Go beyond the starters and who paid them to start the fire? This appears larger than a single whacked out person.
Good luck rebuilding..By the time you get any permits it will be 3 years before you lay the first brick.Meanwhile where you going to live and how much will it cost you to wait that long.Meanwhile there will be offers to buy that land by huge companies who will development it and sell it back at enormous profits.
These footage not only capture the initial moments of two wildfires in LA but also highlight the crucial role of witnesses in understanding the causes and impacts of the disaster. As wildfires become more common and severe, the question arises not only of how to cope but also whether we are doing enough to prevent the tragedy before it occurs.
What cause of this massive fire?
New Jersey UAP violating Airspace for months .. this was done on purpose to distract the already clueless americans
Oh, that's right, bots don't have eyes!
Sorry family and friends ❤❤❤ one love
Seems like people took some hostages from nature and the nature retaliated and now nature is not stopping. Everyone agrees with nature's "right to defend itself". From Gaza with love.
Speak kindly and think kindly. Don't let hatred make you evil. Instead you should pray for the innocent people.
@KittyNinjas in Ghaza humanity had a choice and didn't take it. When wrath of God comes it doesn't categorize people who sat in silence and enjoyed the beaches as innocent. Its hatred of God not mine.
@KittyNinjas It not hatred from me, its wrath of god. You had choice in Ghaza no choice here.
The people that live in the area say these winds come every year. So make sure you do your research and not rely on reporters. They have videos showing kids or adults starting the fire. It clearly shows them starting it.