The majority of pundits are just failed managers or those who don't have it in them to even have a crack at the toughest job in the sport. Anyone can give their opinions on football. That's an easy payday for ex-players. Actually putting the work in like Premier League managers, or La Liga managers or any managers at the top level, there's a huge gap in quality and standards and an understanding of the game to get to that level.
This is his greek bravado 💯💯💯 It s ok to speak with an English accent because you re born in Australia BUT DNA doesn't change. If he feels 💯💯 Australian it s absolutely fine. At the end of the way, he grew up there or born there,this i don't know😊
What a legend! Full of integrity, knowledgeable, articulate, funny…and a successful 25+ year professional who brings excitement to the game and the world of football. Respect
Excels where? The spl with a team whose biggest rivals are still financially hamstrung and the rest of the league destroyed. He achieved the same thing as every other manager did domestically but was destroyed in europe. his record I. the prem is 19-6-19 post first 10 games - that's woeful after spending 400m and bragging about how successful you are. Always wins in his 2nd season is now considered a joke.
Im a rangers fan but I'd even admit postecoglu knows alot more about football than carragher will ever know he's a top manager with a very attractive style of football
@davidyule8555 where's his managerial experience then? He should stick to player commentary, he doesn't know anything about coaching or player management
As a Tottenham fan of 41 or so years, I can’t remember a more scintillating goal fest style of playing and this is with several major injuries to first team players and a couple of 18 yr olds and young players a little older standing in. Just remember Ange has won trophies on 3 different continents, unless Carra and other pundits have not only their pro coaching badges but have won trophies then they need to show some respect.
@@coconuttwee7288 If it's got no relevance ask yourself about other situations that are similar. I loved Carragher back in the day as a defender, one of the best in the world at his peak, but now he's a presenter, not a footballer, and so spitting at little kids because your team lost is seen in that light instead. Would you see everyone the same despite them spitting at kids because they can't control their emotions? Obviously there are far better pundits in the world, because he was a player not a pundit; the chance he is great at both is matched against the 100% fact he spits at children when he gets upset.
@ Rio Ferdinand is horrible human being. Does that mean he’s a rubbish footballer and shouldn’t present anything? What about Terry? Giggs? Shit logic they’re paid to play and analyse football not be Boy Scouts
It will be the spurs fans who destroy this for themselves. A large % are already wanting to return to a defensive mould. They focus on the goals conceded and not the goals scored. They focus on any negatives they can find and blind themselves to the abundance of positives. Let this man have another couple of windows and he will leave the rest of the Prem in dust
Neville / Carra are obsessed with the structure and consistency model. There are at least 3 teams miles ahead of us in that who are gonna win the league this year. We ain't close to that. But we might win a cup with his way because we blow away anyone on a day.
but we also capitulate to a worrying degree. Chelsea, Brighton, Newcastle, Arsenal, Ipswich, Bournemouth? When we lose, the excuse is the injury crisis. When we win, its the brilliance of the players which is funny because people like you both say these are fantastic generational talent or good squad depth while also saying we dont have depth. Win Win isnt it.
Liverpool are gonna muller you next game and than twice more in the semi's. Ange is a good manager but the culture at the club is one of a lack of ambition and excuses for failure. He has a real job on to fix it.
Ange is right. Live in the moment and enjoy a thoroughly entertaining 4-3 win in a Cup Quarter Final. Micro analysing your number two goalkeeper having a bad 10 minutes is futile. Fraser Forster is still one of the best number two GK’s you could hope to have. Outstanding shot stopper, good professional and a top bloke 🍀
Facts , aftee the game yes it was a bad game but the media always talking about the bad parts and never analyse the good bits , after the spurs game yesterday I turned sky off until the draw , can’t stand Jamie or carragher
Carragher is lucky to have a job in football. Spitting on fans would normally guarantee being fired by any decent employer. An employer that saw fit to undermine Jeff Stelling's stellar career but retained the services of the unintelligible Carra. What a joke.
The amount of goals Spurs have scored this season shows that they can be much higher in the table. Dont be surprised if they finish 4th or 5th by the end of the season. Coming from a Chelsea fan. They remind me of Chelsea last year. Good performances but not reflecting on the table
Agree as a spurs fan when we have lost it’s been by one goal other than the Ipswich and palace game we haven’t been bad and should have more points then what we got now , you can see it , how we Have a +17 gd but 10th
I didn’t think Chelsea was that bad last year as you see towards the end you brought it back ,we have 7/9 players on injury list and when it’s Rodri for City one player it’s a crisis but any other team they will just say nothing
Great result in light of the number of first team players missing. No compromise from Ange, no parking the bus, he's a Spurs man through and through. His team responded fantastically to his leadership.
Landed on this post match 3-6. What is certain is that Spurs definitely need to keep this Aussie for the simple reason he loves football and will bring success in the long term. Kudos. YNWA.
Why he talks as if he was someone good 😂😂😂 Dude wasn't even in the top 50 footballers of his era😂 This makes you wonder... WHY the likes of Lahm or Cafu or whatever, doesn't speak nonsense?????
@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic He played over 500 premier league games. He was a very good professional at the highest level in England. He won a European cup against a team in which Cafu was playing.
Even neutrals love this refreshing style of play and are entertained! So jog on with your criticism etc , a beautiful game should be played with positivity and desire to entertain
Ange is on another level. Ange gives more importance to his mother or his wife. Ange cares more about a homeless opinion than Jamie. Jamie is significant for his children, but for football means nothing
I have been saying this for long time Neville and carr are not pundits they're reactionary pundits they analysis basing on wat is happening that moment they don't base on future or past or other narratives e.g if Liverpool win 7 games in raw they say they're the best team in the world if they lose two games narrative chances for them and they luck winning mentality mad
As a Liverpool fan, I was really hoping Ange would have knocked Carragher down a couple levels lower. Carragher, as one supposed Liverpool pundit, does more damage to team cohesivity than 30 Gary Nevilles.
Got to admit that some ex-player pundits still believe they can say and do whatever they choose for some unbelievable reason, with a prime example being Carragher. He is of such a low intellectual level it’s embarrassing and more shame those that employ this individual.
carragher is a joke. Just another one of those typical ex players who thinks he knows everything. but never had the balls or knowledge to coach. a coach knows the game. a player just plays it.
If we get rid of Ange I’ll never watch spurs again. Couldn’t stand to watch another boring manager play dreadful football. I love his approach in his press conferences and has a great sense of humour.
a ucl winner, a 2 time fa cup winner, a 3 time league cup winner, a europa league winner, 2 time community shield winner, a 2 time uefa super cup winner, played over 500 games for liverpool and 2 time liverpool player of the season. I'm not siding with carragher, I'm just giving you who he is and also I forgot to mention, he's a football pundit that appears in monday night football and cbs sports golazo, and other channels.
It is very interesting that Ange does pick up all of the things that pundits say about where he is from, his journey, how he doesn't have a clue because his hasn't managed in a Top 5 League, how he is tactically poor and general demeaning, disrespectful comments.
Carragher is just a TV pundit. He is just doing what a pundit is doing - talking and entertainment for TV. A TV pundit is like how a clown belongs to a circus. Do not mix pundits and coaches/managers.
Carragher talks a lot and gets far too much air time for a guy who was bang average tbh... never top 2 England CB, got carried to every cup he ever won, never won the PL, never even got close, mainly due to titles being won on good defences, and him being a bang average, calamitous defender.
They should not even have these pundits anyway who’s bothered about their opinion nobody just watch the football being paid for what spouting rubbish 😮
my POV it strange on the statement of Carragher however. i know what does he mean. Possibly This is only say war previous big match next day addition Carragher was a pundit and as a former of liverpool player so by intention to hinder ange postecoglue's team on the right track after good result in mid week
Emery had the same problem with people taking the piss out of his accent and not taking him seriously. Carragher only shows his CBS clown character on Sky is when he is doing a impersonation of Ange
Iam a Liverpool fan been waching them since 1964 and I really like Ange and his football and as for all the experts in Talk Sport and Sky do me a favour, Neville has got Carragher by the Bollox so everything he says Cara backs up in some way and as for Talk poo radio there are no words for there blatent bias towards certain teams and players so I think Spurs style is exiting and a bit like Klopps style so give the guy a break, but just not this Sunday a 😂
another interview showing why spurs fans don’t deserve a manager like this. when he goes, they’ll be back being an insignificant bit player in the premier league!
He never said "I'LL IGNORE CARRAGHER". He never said "DON'T NEED CARRAGHER VALIDATION". He did say "ABOUT GETTING SOME HEADLINES". He did say "I FIND.... OFFENSIVE TOWARDS ME". #Context
Typical of some Spurs fans in the comments and tbf some Assna and my club Man United fans as well, more bothered about what some pundit says rather than hold the club accountable for their incompetence.
But Ange was born in Greece but considers himself an Aussie - same as Crowe, this is what Ange meant. You are what you choose not where you are brought into this world.
Not a Spurs fan but really, who Jamie Carragher? and if we look at the pundits they are either failed managers, Neville or really good footballers such as Thierry Henri
This is how it should be, I am a spurs fan but i agreed with Shearer and Carra, the other week when they said Ange's tactics were a shambles. All about opinions and some give and take - love it !
Love this from Ange... pundits have very big voices in the football world and it's great to see them SHUT DOWN like this on some occasions 👏
Yep. Ange is spot on
@@anthonysinclair4114 Agreed
The majority of pundits are just failed managers or those who don't have it in them to even have a crack at the toughest job in the sport. Anyone can give their opinions on football. That's an easy payday for ex-players.
Actually putting the work in like Premier League managers, or La Liga managers or any managers at the top level, there's a huge gap in quality and standards and an understanding of the game to get to that level.
Truth
This is his greek bravado 💯💯💯
It s ok to speak with an English accent because you re born in Australia BUT DNA doesn't change.
If he feels 💯💯 Australian it s absolutely fine. At the end of the way, he grew up there or born there,this i don't know😊
I am a Liverpool supporter
But what a top man
This type of personality is really necessary. Tired of the negativity & sensationlism in the media! Big ups to you Ange.
So true
What a legend! Full of integrity, knowledgeable, articulate, funny…and a successful 25+ year professional who brings excitement to the game and the world of football. Respect
My favourite football manager ever, outside of the team I follow. Such authenticity, no inflated ego, the type of leader which excels
Excels where? The spl with a team whose biggest rivals are still financially hamstrung and the rest of the league destroyed. He achieved the same thing as every other manager did domestically but was destroyed in europe. his record I. the prem is 19-6-19 post first 10 games - that's woeful after spending 400m and bragging about how successful you are. Always wins in his 2nd season is now considered a joke.
Big up to archie gray .the 18 yr old has been fantastic
Yeah sensational talent
😂
Im a rangers fan but I'd even admit postecoglu knows alot more about football than carragher will ever know he's a top manager with a very attractive style of football
Well said
Rangers all the way💯
Against the antisemetism of Celtic.
If you re a fan like you claim,you should know this right?
Carragher knows his shit
@davidyule8555 where's his managerial experience then? He should stick to player commentary, he doesn't know anything about coaching or player management
@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic weird comment
Sometimes people just don't get it !!!!. He's doing remarkably well considering the amount of players out !!
😂😂
As a lifelong Chelsea fan, kinda strange agreeing with a Tottenham manager.
ange is one of my fav managers shame he is at spurs
chelsea had poch laid the foundations for them.
That's because you are agreeing with him as a life long football fan.
Steady on mate 😂 you’re allowed to like other teams managers. You’re even allowed to like rival’s players!
Crazy I know..
You are agreeing with an Aussie mate
Not a spurs fan but I really do admire Ange. He has done a good job so far, it is not easy to manage spurs.
carra wouldn't even survive a real job such as coaching more than Gary Naville
If I speak 😑
Prove it
So true
Carrager was so bad during his playing time.
He wasn't even a decent player to begin with. Without that champions league freak win that squad has nothing to hold on to
He's so refreshing, not a Spurs fan but love the man.
Same, genuine to the core.
As a Tottenham fan of 41 or so years, I can’t remember a more scintillating goal fest style of playing and this is with several major injuries to first team players and a couple of 18 yr olds and young players a little older standing in. Just remember Ange has won trophies on 3 different continents, unless Carra and other pundits have not only their pro coaching badges but have won trophies then they need to show some respect.
Liverpool, but spot on.
Carragher is worst kind of pundit . Big Gob that confuses opinions with facts
Well said why would you listen to a bloke that's spits at a family and keeps his job
Disgraceful behaviour from him.
No relevance whatsoever still one of the best pundits in football
@@coconuttwee7288 If it's got no relevance ask yourself about other situations that are similar. I loved Carragher back in the day as a defender, one of the best in the world at his peak, but now he's a presenter, not a footballer, and so spitting at little kids because your team lost is seen in that light instead. Would you see everyone the same despite them spitting at kids because they can't control their emotions?
Obviously there are far better pundits in the world, because he was a player not a pundit; the chance he is great at both is matched against the 100% fact he spits at children when he gets upset.
@ Rio Ferdinand is horrible human being. Does that mean he’s a rubbish footballer and shouldn’t present anything? What about Terry? Giggs? Shit logic they’re paid to play and analyse football not be Boy Scouts
@coconuttwee7288 clown
Firm in his beliefs. Rare these days.
It will be the spurs fans who destroy this for themselves.
A large % are already wanting to return to a defensive mould. They focus on the goals conceded and not the goals scored. They focus on any negatives they can find and blind themselves to the abundance of positives.
Let this man have another couple of windows and he will leave the rest of the Prem in dust
The media are constantly setting Ange up to dunk on him. It’s so annoying.
Ange is too wise
Because of his accent ,and there all stuck up libreals
He likes me as a person "that's important to me" LOL
Love it
Neville / Carra are obsessed with the structure and consistency model. There are at least 3 teams miles ahead of us in that who are gonna win the league this year. We ain't close to that. But we might win a cup with his way because we blow away anyone on a day.
but we also capitulate to a worrying degree. Chelsea, Brighton, Newcastle, Arsenal, Ipswich, Bournemouth? When we lose, the excuse is the injury crisis. When we win, its the brilliance of the players which is funny because people like you both say these are fantastic generational talent or good squad depth while also saying we dont have depth. Win Win isnt it.
Liverpool are gonna muller you next game and than twice more in the semi's. Ange is a good manager but the culture at the club is one of a lack of ambition and excuses for failure. He has a real job on to fix it.
Well said my friend sick of those two boring farts yapping on thinking they are experts which they simply not!!
He's very real I'll give him that. It's a bit inspiring. I wish I was able to articulate my feelings as well as he can.
Yes
Carragher has to realise Ange is not an 11 year old girl, he is a football manager with 27 years experience
fr fr
Lol shotgun let off
Yes, he has 27 years experience in Aussie and Japan!
@@Pkp2306and also first tear with average spurs ended up 5th
@@wishvakrish3583 'tear' - he's a crybaby for sure!
Maybe if Carragher was as good at running with his legs as he is at running his mouth, he might've won a league title.
Well he’s achieved more than you so what does that say about you
I bet Carragher can spit further than most people.
@@BenDorm right, ask your mum
“I love my life and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing” what a line to sign out on👍
Ange is right. Live in the moment and enjoy a thoroughly entertaining 4-3 win in a Cup Quarter Final. Micro analysing your number two goalkeeper having a bad 10 minutes is futile.
Fraser Forster is still one of the best number two GK’s you could hope to have. Outstanding shot stopper, good professional and a top bloke 🍀
Facts , aftee the game yes it was a bad game but the media always talking about the bad parts and never analyse the good bits , after the spurs game yesterday I turned sky off until the draw , can’t stand Jamie or carragher
Forster is a joke today a keep has to 2use his feet he can't simple as your no 1 is also very dodgy
Ange is class, Spurs idk but they’re lucky to have him
"I don't need validation from anybody from anybody to do what i do"
Class response 🔥
Carragher is lucky to have a job in football. Spitting on fans would normally guarantee being fired by any decent employer. An employer that saw fit to undermine Jeff Stelling's stellar career but retained the services of the unintelligible Carra. What a joke.
That is spot on horrible thing to spit on anybody 😮
The amount of questions on Ange’s “style of play” is so annoying
The amount of goals Spurs have scored this season shows that they can be much higher in the table. Dont be surprised if they finish 4th or 5th by the end of the season. Coming from a Chelsea fan. They remind me of Chelsea last year. Good performances but not reflecting on the table
Agree as a spurs fan when we have lost it’s been by one goal other than the Ipswich and palace game we haven’t been bad and should have more points then what we got now , you can see it , how we Have a +17 gd but 10th
I didn’t think Chelsea was that bad last year as you see towards the end you brought it back ,we have 7/9 players on injury list and when it’s Rodri for City one player it’s a crisis but any other team they will just say nothing
I like this guy!
@ 21:00 Response to Carragher criticism.
Cheers
Finally someone gets it by stating the time stamp
Go to work and earn , well said Ang .
Great result in light of the number of first team players missing. No compromise from Ange, no parking the bus, he's a Spurs man through and through. His team responded fantastically to his leadership.
Stay strong mate 💪
Love this guy always gives great interviews top man
Ange is a straight up guy and the Prem is better off with him in it
Landed on this post match 3-6. What is certain is that Spurs definitely need to keep this Aussie for the simple reason he loves football and will bring success in the long term. Kudos. YNWA.
Watch Spurs go when he gets a fit squad. From a Celtic fan 🍀
List of failed managers
Gary Neville
Oh wait Carragher never coached a day in his life
Gerry Neville couldn’t coach my arse
@@Benny18-18 he quit coaching so fast😂
Carragher wouldn't even manage to secure six points if he were coaching Southampton. His loud, brash mouth are all his got.
Haha honestly
Why he talks as if he was someone good 😂😂😂
Dude wasn't even in the top 50 footballers of his era😂
This makes you wonder... WHY the likes of Lahm or Cafu or whatever, doesn't speak nonsense?????
True! Keep defending like that on Sunday please 🙏
@NorbertNahumEvreuklovic He played over 500 premier league games. He was a very good professional at the highest level in England. He won a European cup against a team in which Cafu was playing.
I’m a Chelsea fan but I love big ange!!
big bubba ange
Spurs will show why ‘it’s who we are mate’.
Oh yes
Most people ignore Carragher
Even neutrals love this refreshing style of play and are entertained! So jog on with your criticism etc , a beautiful game should be played with positivity and desire to entertain
Those pundits are not as important as they think they are, especially Carragher.
Class act.
Ange is on another level. Ange gives more importance to his mother or his wife. Ange cares more about a homeless opinion than Jamie. Jamie is significant for his children, but for football means nothing
carra went from a liverpool lad to a mainstream media toad
Ange personal experience of game management: 0.
Carragob personal experience of game management: 10.
Carra boot licker
good for him he’s right
I have been saying this for long time Neville and carr are not pundits they're reactionary pundits they analysis basing on wat is happening that moment they don't base on future or past or other narratives e.g if Liverpool win 7 games in raw they say they're the best team in the world if they lose two games narrative chances for them and they luck winning mentality mad
Pundits speak for themselves. Carragher works from a script given to him by the production team.
@demonmonsterdave no way that's not scrip bro it's his brain
Ange didn't spit at a minor like Carragher and Neville threatened to quit Sky if he wasn't reinstated 😂😂😂
Why does Ange remind me of George Michael?
Greek heritage both of them.
He’s a ‘father figure’
A Daddy@@ry8102
Is it because you hang about public toilets and spotters both? 😉
"Fellow Aussie". Crowe is a Kiwi
Same thing😊
Watch out carra spits at people
Including your mum
Well said Ang, cannot stand listening to the Spitter & turn off whenever he opens his gob.
Love this guy, ynwa
I would juat make sure you keep out of spitting distance.
Makes sure you stay out or bottling distance it might give you ptsd
Great comment and so true. 😂😂
As a Liverpool fan, I was really hoping Ange would have knocked Carragher down a couple levels lower. Carragher, as one supposed Liverpool pundit, does more damage to team cohesivity than 30 Gary Nevilles.
Got to admit that some ex-player pundits still believe they can say and do whatever they choose for some unbelievable reason, with a prime example being Carragher. He is of such a low intellectual level it’s embarrassing and more shame those that employ this individual.
“I’m a fan but” comments are crazy. You’re allowed to like other team’s managers and even their players… crazy right.
Spurs got Ange aging faster than Barack Obama.
It is not the manager and the system that is bad it is the team, and the backing of buying new players that is shite.
It's a shame Carragher stopped playing for Liverpool. He scored the same amount of goals for Spurs that he did for Liverpool.
carragher is a joke.
Just another one of those typical ex players who thinks he knows everything. but never had the balls or knowledge to coach. a coach knows the game. a player just plays it.
Ce to see the Aussie Spirit in the heart of Pomme dogma.😂😂😂
Never Change Ange
If we get rid of Ange I’ll never watch spurs again. Couldn’t stand to watch another boring manager play dreadful football. I love his approach in his press conferences and has a great sense of humour.
Who the hell is Carragher
a ucl winner, a 2 time fa cup winner, a 3 time league cup winner, a europa league winner, 2 time community shield winner, a 2 time uefa super cup winner, played over 500 games for liverpool and 2 time liverpool player of the season. I'm not siding with carragher, I'm just giving you who he is and also I forgot to mention, he's a football pundit that appears in monday night football and cbs sports golazo, and other channels.
@ above all, absolute clown
@@MtEverest_Hotspur what do you mean?
Russell Crowe is actually a kiwi mate!
His passport says Aussie.
What does Carragher know of Ange as a person
It is very interesting that Ange does pick up all of the things that pundits say about where he is from, his journey, how he doesn't have a clue because his hasn't managed in a Top 5 League, how he is tactically poor and general demeaning, disrespectful comments.
Ange face is showing the stress he is under.
Carragher is just a TV pundit. He is just doing what a pundit is doing - talking and entertainment for TV. A TV pundit is like how a clown belongs to a circus. Do not mix pundits and coaches/managers.
Great guy
Misleading a bit with the title
How the analytic merchants still think playing out of the back is a good idea is unbelievable
Carragher talks a lot and gets far too much air time for a guy who was bang average tbh... never top 2 England CB, got carried to every cup he ever won, never won the PL, never even got close, mainly due to titles being won on good defences, and him being a bang average, calamitous defender.
They should not even have these pundits anyway who’s bothered about their opinion nobody just watch the football being paid for what spouting rubbish 😮
Carragher worse pundit on sky
He shouldn’t even be on there after that awful spitting he did on someone 😮
Carragher's high pitched noise constantly coming from the whole in the middle of his face. Very irritating .
my POV it strange on the statement of Carragher however. i know what does he mean. Possibly This is only say war previous big match next day addition Carragher was a pundit and as a former of liverpool player so by intention to hinder ange postecoglue's team on the right track after good result in mid week
Jamie is right AngeBall is a joke :(
Emery had the same problem with people taking the piss out of his accent and not taking him seriously. Carragher only shows his CBS clown character on Sky is when he is doing a impersonation of Ange
Iam a Liverpool fan been waching them since 1964 and I really like Ange and his football and as for all the experts in Talk Sport and Sky do me a favour, Neville has got Carragher by the Bollox so everything he says Cara backs up in some way and as for Talk poo radio there are no words for there blatent bias towards certain teams and players so I think Spurs style is exiting and a bit like Klopps style so give the guy a break, but just not this Sunday a 😂
Risky tactics and players in Risk, full of entertainment. 🎉🎮👍
another interview showing why spurs fans don’t deserve a manager like this. when he goes, they’ll be back being an insignificant bit player in the premier league!
Most people wouldn't...so they don't.
He never said "I'LL IGNORE CARRAGHER".
He never said "DON'T NEED CARRAGHER VALIDATION".
He did say "ABOUT GETTING SOME HEADLINES".
He did say "I FIND.... OFFENSIVE TOWARDS ME".
#Context
He said ' I don't need validation from 'Anybody'
@AB_Deck but JamieC is a nobody.
Russel Crowe is a New Zealander
Aussie passport. Aussie citizen.
Why not everybody else does
Typical of some Spurs fans in the comments and tbf some Assna and my club Man United fans as well, more bothered about what some pundit says rather than hold the club accountable for their incompetence.
Carragher spat on a memeber of the public ,hes pond life as far as im concerned
Russel Crow is a Kiwi born in NZ
…but who spent 10 years of his childhood in Australia and who has lived here permanently for 40 years… like most New Zealanders😂😂😂!!!
@ as I said he is a kiwi 🥝
But Ange was born in Greece but considers himself an Aussie - same as Crowe, this is what Ange meant. You are what you choose not where you are brought into this world.
@ another pretender then
Not a Spurs fan but really, who Jamie Carragher? and if we look at the pundits they are either failed managers, Neville or really good footballers such as Thierry Henri
ANGE IN
This is how it should be, I am a spurs fan but i agreed with Shearer and Carra, the other week when they said Ange's tactics were a shambles.
All about opinions and some give and take - love it !
carra is useless