ENGINE FIRE ON TAKEOFF | FedEx MD-11 Emergency Return to Toronto
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- 07/FEB/2025
FedEx MD-11 performing flight from Toronto to Memphis was on the initial climb when the pilots declared an emergency reporting fire on the number 3 engine and would need to return immediately.
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N642FE is still sitting at Toronto 24 hours after the incident.
Still waiting for an engine swap. It takes a couple of days to organize everything and complete the process.
Not sure what else you expect.
@@jwm6314 I didn't say I expected anything, did I?
Got to fly in the old graybeards that work on the MDs from Memphis and they don't work on weekends with graybeard tenure. 😂
@@hsuflyguy When I worked for the airlines this was a process. The Canadians require work permits to be filed and duties paid before technicians can enter Canada to perform work even for a US registered jet, so i'm sure that's going to take some time.
Props to the aircraft on the ground that suggested the runway inspection.
Agreed, first thing that came to mind, should be an automatic thing when there’s a flameout of takeoff, no?
@@repatch43 agreed
Yes, but ATC should have been on top of that. Just like they should have known which engine is #3
@@cruisinguy6024 Better to ask than to assume. 3-holers aren't as common as they used to be.
@@cruisinguy6024the ATC's priority Is to vacate the active runway. Until getting any confirmation of the intentions from the emergency aircraft they should get the runway vacanted as soon as possible.
I love that the md-11s are still flying. I always know when fedex or ups fly them over my house just by the sound. They climb so fast. Powerful beasts!
I live near all the 36x approaches for Memphis/KMEM. I am very familiar with the FedEx MD-11 sounds. 🤣
@ I’m hearing them take off from Toronto and you’re hearing them land there. That’s cool
They were glorious to fly on when the airlines flew them, them DC's and L-1011's back in the glory days of flight were great.
Tri-holer!!
I flew the MD for the company for over 29 years. Never a burp from an engine.
It’s nice to hear professional comms. it’s gotten pretty bad out there in general. Great job FedEx pilots!
I see that the ATC was as momentarily confused by "number 3 engine" as I was. You don't often see three-engine jets nowdays. :)
That's faintly amusing, but surely everyone knows that sensible aviators prefer to have as many engines as possible.
Takes me a minute to figure the tail is #2, not #3, still following the left to right standard.
Excellent communication and observations by all, from pilots to ATC. Glad all went well. And that type of calmness (tense situations or not), I wish I'd see more in everyday life. People can't even walk around or drive a car without drama and antics.
“And that, ladies and gentlemen is how we (they) do that!” Job well done!
Almost hear RUSH in the background!
Best song ever!
1:46 he says 'make sure theres no parts flying off' not 'make sure theres no wrecks on the runway'
Glad everyone is ok.
Is it not sop to do a runway inspection after a departing aircraft has an engine failure?
It could be a simple compressor stall or it could be anything else, but I would not want to be departing after them without making sure the runway is clear.
I'm so relieved that FedEx made a safe landing.
On a side note, the guy in the tower sounds soooo good! 😉😊
A little off-topic, but I've noticed that there are always an insane amount of FedEx MD-11s flying to Toronto Pearson. In a place called Vaughan (qute close to Pearson INTL), I have seen at least 6 FedEx MD-11s going for a landing, and only like 2 or 3 passenger airlines in one day.
Thank you
Excellent job by Toronto control team all the way.
Why clear Porter for takeoff before runway inspection?
Because ATC forgot and it was only the other pilot that reminded him
There was also a FedEx flight last night from Halifax to Toronto that diverted to Montreal. Early evening. Saw on flight radar but not sure situation. Did not land a YUL but another Montreal airport I believe
Can anyone explain why they can't make right turns? With the right engine out wouldn't it be easier?
It would be easier to make right turns however it would also be harder to regain control of the plane if it started to get away from you with the loss of thrust on that side. Left turns are more stable in this situation.
I think with it being specifically an MD-11 and heavy might cause unwanted yaw in a right turn with the asymmetric thrust. The big Tri's like the DC-10, MD-11 and L1011 have some very unique quirks that might go against logic when compared to the 'conventional' layout
@@hsuflyguy A bit like the light twin mantra "dead engine, dead leg". Don't turn into the dead engine because that wing has less airflow (without propeller slipstream) and the inner wing on a turn has lower airspeed.
Easier to start a turn into the dead engine, harder to stop the turn ... it's just safer to turn away from the dead engine. Aircraft are still capable of it, but why take the chance if there's no need? It would be different if there was still a fire, they wouldn't have taken the additional time and wouldn't worry as much about turn direction.
Turn direction doesn’t really matter on transport category aircraft.
Could someone explain to me, why does he prefer left hand turns with a broken right hand engine?
I'd expect using the working left hand engine makes right hand turns easier. The engine
pushes rather than slow down on the particular side.
ATC earned their income on this onie
professional, informative about the nature of each non-standard left turn and without sounding uneasy or annoyed at the situation. 100% what ATC should be.
For all that has gone on with aviation accidents and incidents in the past 3 months every ATC controller should be wearing a super hero cap. They have been bringing their all to keep the worlds skies safe.
Unless on a coffee break.
Never mess with a controller’s coffee break. 😜☕️
they screw up plenty
Dang Canadians are so friendly eh?
Americans using anything but "Mayday Mayday Mayday" to declare an emergency 😂
Fair comment. 😂
This is the reason that several millions of passengers have died over the years 😢
It's in Canada, but I guess the controllers were trying not to confuse FedEx.
@@chrisschack9716 Sorry!
@@Videos888billions even.
There is no rational reason why a pilot should have to request an inspection of the runway in those circumstances. Tower should be doing it as standard. Really poor, again....
How old are these Md11s now?
3 billion trillion 😂
Incident aircraft is 32 years old. Built June 1992
@Glegh def time for the desert.
@Design_no why? Age has nothing to do with it. Hours only matter. Maintenance and upkeep only matter.
@@Design_no Keep 'em flying! Preferably over my house in a low altitude holding pattern whenever possible. Not seen an MD-11 in the UK for some time now, although Western Global still visit Ostend.
More than 30 deg loc intercept for an emergency aircraft? Why?
There's nothing wrong with that. And it's minimal, RWY23 Track is 237º
I would suspect the 22kt wind 30 degrees from the right may have something to do with it.
Runway 23 is actually the same landing course as 24L and 24R, just north side of the airport. They could rename it to 24R and 24R to 24C, but this is fine as-is.
fresh out 1 minute
Nice that YYZ didn't screw up. Like that one time when they already had 2 planes sitting on Runway 6 and the tower tells the 3rd to go out and get ready for takeoff. People forget all the absolute stupid things that happened.
Absolutely absurd that the plane following the emergency had to ask for a runway sweep before takeoff. Why is that not procedure? Especially with everything that has happened in the last month and a half. Safety first? Apparently not!
They are Canadian.
@@waynec9444 I didn't specify anything, and my time frame includes accidents in other countries. Not sure what point you're trying to prove, but whether it's in the US, Canada, Brazil, etc, it shouldn't matter. A flame out on takeoff should trigger a sweep. Full stop.
That was embarrassing. One pilot still has his head on. I was thinking the same when the porter plane was given takeoff clearance. There could have been debris on the ground from the damaged engine or did that caused the damage.
@@waynec9444While I agree that an inspection should have happened immediately, in my experience Canadian ATCs are more courteous and professional than their American counterparts, Wayne.
Engine change $$$$$
On a side note, why don't controllers know by now which engine is which? Engine number one is always the left most engine, yes?
Might be cuz its a 3 engine, when they may be used to 2 engine.
That is because they are Canadian.
@@waynec9444 I don't understand your comment. Can you please elaborate?
Because eyewitness accounts are frequently wrong. Couldn't count the number of times I've been involved as a first responder where the witness said "right shoulder" on the interstate and it was the left, and visa versa. Heck, we automatically dispatch units both northbound and southbound because of the number of times people got that wrong. Unlikely that the pilot in the plane behind got it wrong, but easy enough to just check with the aircraft involved to confirm.
@@sleepyjay2664 But the pilots on the FedEx had said no.2, but the controller didn't know where the no.2 engine was and had to ask, then had to additionally ask which direction turns were preferred. Exactly which part of that had anything to do with an eyewitness?
Pilot “with the engine issue on takeoff should we expect the runway?”
ATC- “uugh we can if you’d like”
Why in the he🏒🏒 should a pilot decide to do that? It’s a safety concern on your runway!
That was an absurd exchange.
It always pains me when ATC doesn't know how aircraft engines are numbered, and how an engine out can impact turning. This really is basic info that they should be taught.
These specially designed cargo planes now have good fire suppression systems. Passenger planes, not so much.
That seems backwards to me but that’s typical these days ❤
@ Not really… people tend to ship things with batteries and do not declare it. Getting on a passenger plane, I guess to have to trust your fellow passenger isn’t suicidal…placing batteries in their checked bags.
Not sure what you mean by this. The engine was on fire. This plane has halon bottles for the engines just like Boeing, Airbus, Mitsubishi, British Aerospace, Beechcraft, and so on. Also, this was a passenger plane in its early life. How is this plane different? If you are talking about cabin fires, I don’t think you want to be in the cabin when a Halon fire extinguisher disperses its agent. You would not last very long. The O2 masks that drop down are not 100% positive pressure O2, they mix with outside air. And you do not want pure O2 blowing on your face with fire nearby.
@ in general, cargo plane fires ant as bad as a passenger aircraft. Engines are the same, cargo, not so much.
Passenger aircraft have good fire suppression in the underfloor cargo areas. You wouldn't want that in the passenger cabin, people would asphyxiate.
They still using md11? 😮
Pretty crazy!
UPS too. What do you suggest is a good replacement for it?
Wonderful isn't it!
@@hsuflyguy Something with 3 or more engines.
Parcel companies tend to use older planes because they are cheap to buy. They are less ec per mile, but that doesn't matter too much because each plane is used much less than passenger planes. A FedEx plane may just do one round trip a day for overnight parcels.
I would have liked to hear mayday, but otherwise they were cool as ice. Well handled
Millennial controller! Clearly wasn't around when the tri-holes ruled the skies
What is going on with Aircraft? To many problems.........Good Luck
ever since adonald trumpler inaugurated, the aircraft incident rate has gone up exponentially
I don't like him either, but your statement is hyperbolic.
You may want to do a little bit of research on that.
Stupid remark @31mAyMgaYanga.
Nonsense, but DIE has no place in aviation.
This is in Canada
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3:45 dude can barely speak English. It's ridiculous.
Seems you are unable to understand English. That sounds like a you problem.