After this experience I went on to train MMA full time for a full year, had an amateur MMA fight and then sparred with the same MMA fighter again. See the results here: ruclips.net/video/-78SnIEuDg0/видео.html
So you did Akido for 13 years and did not expect to be able to fight someone with it? Why? When during your Akido practice did you realize that it was not effective?
There wasn't aikido even once during this fight. Of course, Aikido is not really teached nowadays, and most of schools are not what was created as Aikido, but, damn, you've got 13 years of training and didn't managed to enter your agressor! Not a single attack, no punches, no kicks, no iniciative?! On 6:55 you "went for a throw", what was that??? you had your arm on his neck, why didn't you hit him? Then you went to "grab his hand" and took a punch (atemi), just like any uke would do (was he the aikidoist or you?)! Good for you noticing your training years were not good for you, but I bet you are today more aikidoist than back this time. Now, you can blame Aikido, but, how is that if you didn't use it? I mean, how can you train a martial discipline that gave Ueshiba's dojo the name of "hell's dojo" and not even develop some muscles? That's not Aikido, not even close. Guess it's not your fault. MMA looks better for you.
Well said, cause I thought I was the only one. There’s no way you have 13 years under your belt and demonstrate aikido like that, it felt like you’ve never had someone actually strike you in a real situation before or you were just scared to get hurt.
I'm not sure he is saying that, was he? I also trained aikido and loved it, but not for a second did I think I could beat a competitive fighter from any style. It's a stylized art, and most serious aikido teachers acknowledge that.
Mma is designed to defeat other martial arts quickly and effectively. Traditional arts are still beautiful and worth the time and training. As long as the teachers are honest and open about the fact they are not combat worthy in a ring with combat trained men and women. There is a place for both. I train MMA but I also study my base of Ken Po, each has its values, but I would NEVER use it in a situation that was against a trained mix martial artist, I enjoy the traditional training, especially the weapons based martial art of it, but it would take a real fool to try traditional martial arts in a ring against someone who is trained to destroy and optimize movements against traditional arts
@@beentheredonethat5908 I definitely agree with you on that. Traditional arts more grounded in rhythm and almost dance, not designed or practiced with real combat in mind still have value. If nothing else it can be calming and enjoyable. There doesn't need to be anything beyond that. Personally, I'm a boxer, but I've done a bit of things, bjj, kickboxing, wrestling, judo.
@@supertotoro having watched some of his other videos it seems that for many years he did think it was effective. But after he started noticing that it was never tested in combat situations he started to really doubt its effectiveness. I think that started some years ago. But he's always maintained his love for the art. Admittedly my practice of combat sports have very little to do with the goal of winning a fight on the street. It's a happy side effect.
@@jamiefinn4438 I will say this though anyone advanced in traditional arts holding a weapon, is very very dangerous. Depending on the art of course, a artist with a staff is insanely DANGEROUS. With no weapon it's nit a real combative style, especially with people of equal or greater strength. With a staff though, I wouldn't want any part of them lol. Several years ago, I argued with a FRIEND who was from China and we'll trained in the arts, and I was getting ready for a powerlifting meet and out weighed him by 150lbs or so, he was a man on the sampler side, very fast and skilled though. I didn't WANT to fight but the language barrier and his ego made sure it did, I was a bit intimated, but he setting throwing kicks, it only took a second to learn he was able to hurt me, which surprised him as well. Needless to say it ended quickly with me taking him to the ground and wrapping him up until he calmed down. MMA has broken many hearts but traditional is beautiful and teaches about the self and connection of body and mind, I think they should train just for health benefits but for the calm and body control as well, maybe evolve a bit. We have added contact soaring to my style recently, and that alone makes it more effective. Anyone that is afraid to get hit will lose in a fight
With respect to all of the experienced or professional opinions here, I think this guys greatest asset has nothing to do with skill. The ability to overcome his ego and allow himself to be vulnerable, completely exposed, is his greatest asset. No dogma, just a willingness to test himself without the fear of humiliation. That's what will allow him to grow in his art where others will stagnate.
This is rare to see. Someone who was devoted to something that not only he loved, but also made a living and name out of it, to then take the humble truth seeking approach resulting in him walking away from lies and fantasies. Mankind would be in a lot better place if more people were like you man. Mad respect.
everybody here is lying because that what y'all want hear and satisfy your ego to say hey look I was right. the fact is nobody has practiced this enough against someone else to actually evolve the skills. every martial art can be affective if you know how to use. my first time sparring a guy who been boxing for 6 years, I whooped his ass and everybody thought I was lying about my skills, they thought I been boxing for a while but the reality is I have never actually boxed in my life before that fight and I was schooling a pro boxer for 8 rounds. I learned boxing just watching casually. the truth about skills is you have to compete not just say ohh look I have been doing this for 50 years but you never actually fought anyone
Good point. And it seems like he had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen anyways, so it's not like he believed the lies and fantasies in the first place.
@Dodadeus aikido has never been practiced the way it is practiced to day for fighting ever in history. Aikido is an aspect of the samurai philosophy and a thing for samurai to boost help and calm their mind. A lot of Japanese martial arts are meant to create good civilians and cultivate people not make them ultimate fighting machines. It is no shame to practice a martial art that focuses on culture rather than fighting. You get some concepts of self defense but it is more like a dance. I know a former dancer who is good at doing kata because of her background and absolutely loves it. She says herself that she Is not a fighter and so what? Not anyone needs to seek ultimate fighting skills.
The mma fighter was very humble and nice. Very good training partner. And very good experience for aikido practitioner. Keep training and congratulations for your open mind
I'm respecting only this guy, after all, all the traditional martial arts continuing to follow into a distant place related to the competitive martial arts, afraid to test it. Good work man, what you did was amazing!
@Dale Doback not really. Aikido's complete lack of offensive techniques make impossible for you to use any of the techniques at all, however, mix any effective martial art with it and you are going to be a really scary Person to deal with. It's a complementary martial art. Ueshida, the creator of aikido, was a master of other martial arts when he created it, and he actually required his students to be a black belt in at least one martial art before taking his classes, that's why it doesn't have any offensive techniques or that much techniques at all. Learning aikido without prior martial arts practice, is like trying to get a master's degree without getting a bachelor's degree first, you're gonna get buttfucked.
Gary Redmond Ik you made this comment a year ago but what do you mean the pursuit of truth everybody know akido guys would get smashed against anyone who isn’t playing with them
5:28 your black belt in Aikido didn’t work -against a highly trained MMA fighter. But here’s a question you’ve never touched on... do you think your aikido would have worked against a lower belted MMA or TMA fighter? Could your aikido have worked against a green or red belt karate or Judo practitioner?
That's when he lost mine : wrong mindset for fighting, wrong mindset for aikido. he was just admitting early that he didn't have a clue about either so that his feigned 'humility' might cover for his inherent insecurity and cultivated inadequacy.
It is great to see an Aikido person not talking his way out, but actually making an effort to find out and taking the results with humility. Double thumbs-up.
People like him actually learn ... Aikido guy has been too focused with willing partners ... now he needs to get over fear or new guys and learn to guard and have decent punching ability ... to fully employ his aikido.
+AikidoSiauliai I learned from my Aikido teachers that the greeting "O negai shimasu" can also be understood in the sense of "let us learn from each other" as an expression of mutual respect and humility. So, judging from the video and your comment at the end, I'd say you too have a clear grasp of that meaning. :-) Good for you!
A bit of Judo would serve you well. You've learnt throws, but not throws that are required "in the moment". I'd follow with a little boxing, or muay thai, to learn how to strike. I think BJJ might be a little too brutal for someone with your kind of temperament.
Definitely some boxing or kickboxing training would help, not so much for strikes, but to get used to strikes coming at you and how to dodge and block. Some standup wrestling would help too for close distances.
You are a credit to the world of Martial Arts. I'm a 30 year veteran of fighting and teaching -- and this level of integrity and lack of need to prove an ego is incredibly admirable. A deep bow to you sir.
@@giga_chad9 These days, although I still practice - I am old and riddled with pain. Not much of a worthy adversary for most. However, I do appreciate your respect and thank you for it. Once one advances into higher black belt ranks of multiple fighting systems, knowledge of the complexity of the martial arts is humbling. It all boils down to one fundamental rule - once one enters a fight (save for competition) you have lost. I learned how to fight so that I didn't have to, should the need arise. It has paid huge dividends over the years. Taking up a system and devotion to that system, can be a true path to peace. Which is ultimately the most important aspect of life - in my opinion. Peace.
@@Xomenra01shit man a warrior in a garden type stuff, that’s amazing man, comments like these makes me wanna do wrestling and Muay Thai again, can’t wait to get back into that, but all in all my point is that guys like you are the reason why guys like me can train, thank you for your contribution the martial arts man💯
Sam Vimes the mma guy isn’t going hard at all he’s just going for technique they explained before they sparred. The mma guy knows he will win either way so he just went with it.
The guy that is talking about Aikido all the time but not showing it at all? Creator of Aikido said that you can't explain Aikido with words you can learn it and master only via training... but this guy is so into "aikido" that he even ditched his Aikido uniform before he entered the ring... because he is "aikido master" that have hakama, he is showing it to make impresion that he is "aikido guy" but he would most likely trip over his own feet if he would try using hakama during his sparing. I also love the gloves on his hands, just to be sure that we will not gonna be able to do most of Aikido techniques even if he would have urge to try one. :D
@@Bialy_1 Totally correct : he threw ANYTHING to do with aikido out the window [mainly because he KNEW that HE could NOT 'make' IT work, took a quick pseudo lesson in boxing and 'shaping up' [so NOT aikido], put on the 'gear', and set about PRETENDING he was a 'big MMA fighter just like Tadas', until he had realised his REAL aim - to GET ATTENTION by FAILING, so that the only way is then, 'UP' - by riding all the way on the back of a sensationalist claim that 'Aikido FAILS', sucking up all the energy of people 'piling on' to criticize or defend aikido - JUST like ALL the regular little 'shadow beings' do to humans all the time ... THAT'S why he IS a FAKE - as a person, before anything to do with his martial art ability (or clear LACK thereof). But, back to 'his' Aikido : NO shizentai, NO zanshin or mushin, NO NOT-being there when the attack comes, NO 'unliftable body' [ - merely a basic grounding exercise/technique for those who don't know, and a LUDICROUS reversal of aikido's technical basis, by attempting to use what are timing-based DEFENSES as UNTIMED, ungainly, and UNFOUNDED 'attacks' [he even PRINTS 'trying another wrist-grab ('attack')' just so we're in no doubt of this terrible technical and philosophical misinterpretation of Aikido principles, and in no doubt of the amount of 'NOISE' going on in his head - NO Aikido MIND there ! Cheers for helpin' keep this discussion grounded Bialy - all the best with the Ai-ki-way my friend.
I love how humble the MMA guy is. Not trying to boast off or destroy the inexperienced guy just to boost his own ego, but to genuinely teach the aikido guy.
Other traditional martial arts practitioners gets frustrated when getting ass kicked. But much respect to this guys. His humility will bring him on top.
I love it how honest this guy was. I have so much respect for him. He's a true example of the integrity that aikido philosophy I believe intends to preach.
I bet if you gain more experience against MMA or fighters in sparring matches that go full tilt, and become accustomed to someone really attacking you the art will get batter and may even transform. You can practice a discipline all of your life and still get your ass handed to you in a real fight if the opponent has a lot of real fighting experience. So keep doing things like this as much as possible and don't be afraid to get hit and then you can take those techniques you learned and use them effectively irl in many different situations. Everyone knows that if you learn something it is almost useless until it is used practically. I would love more videos on this and would love to see your progress as a fighter. I don't mean you need to compete but going into sparring like this irl will only make you better. Every master knows that they never truly are done learning.
And the experiment? To try something that never happens on the street. Show me a street with a boxing ring in the middle of it. Point is that in Aikido we can roll...but not in a ring. Similarly, show me someone on the street wearing boxing gloves. Point is that in Aikido you grab the hand or arm...not a large boxing glove. Also, this guy does not represent all Aikidoists but rather a very naive guy who has been treated with kid gloves...shock of shocks, he isn't ready for anything.
Gotta give resoect to both people here! First to the Aikidoka for being humble enough to not only try and risk RUclips comments, but his honesty as well. Second to the MMA gentleman who not only didn't find it neccessary to destroy and humiliate the Aikido practitioner, but to also reach out with tips and pointers. We can learn something from both of these gents! Well done guys!!
Wow! He's the real man. Accepting the opponent's martial arts as a better one takes a lot of humbleness and sportsmanship. We need more people like him.
@@fallahkhan3483 The thing is MMA pretty much has to be the most effective form of unarmed one on one combat by definition since its the least limited one. Sure its not completely without rules but as far as combat sports go its without a doubt the closest thing to simulating a real fighting situation against another highly trained individual we have. And therefor naturally the most effective techinques and aproaches under these cicumstances within the ruleset will prevail. Just like BJJ did for example. A pure striker probably still has the upper hand to a pure grappler but as soon as highly skilled BJJ practicioners started to understand the basics of stand up fighting, how to defend punches and how to take the fight to the ground, pure strikers and brawler were completely powerless against it and therefor had to adept. Now while still often specializing in one area, every MMA fighter has to at least understand the basics of multible combat sports to compete since it proved crucial to not know certain things. Pure BJJ blackbelt without standup will be knocked out with ease by a trained MT fighter. World class kickboxer without grappling will be put to sleep in a min or two by an experienced wrestler with solid groundgame. So if Akaido did work against other fighters under these circumstances we would at least occasionaly see some of its techinques beeing used in MMA like we do for example with judo tkd or karate. While not dominating the sport all these combat arts still have their place within professional MMA and therefor proved to at least situationaly work in real fights. So since we didnt see any Akido master/fighter successfully take and adapt his techniques to the sport of mixed matial arts, where by definition every matial art is allowed as long as it works, we can asume one od two things. Either no skilled eneugh Akido particioner has made it work yet which theoretically is totaly possible. MMA keeps evolving so we for sure havent seen it all yet and new aspekts keep being implemented. Or, whats way more likely in my opinion, it just doesnt reliably work against real fighters in a real fight. But a few years ago TKD was also being called useless until people got spinning back kicked the shit out of them and had to accept that some of its techniques might not be that useless after all.
gtarluva idk how i got lost in this part of youtube. but from my outsider perspective. some martial arts are there merely to defend and others to actually attack.
I came here expecting it to be a hype video for akido where you’d take someone who didn’t know shit about mma or just stage it. I was pleasantly surprised and I have to say that I respect what you did a lot. You were humble the whole time and kept it real. You didn’t make excuses and it took a lot of balls for you to do all this, well done!
This channel helped me to re evaluate my 22 years of martial arts. 22 years of experience, and Taekwondo and a few others being very applicable, but you certainly helped me with stopping my Aikido practice. I now attend an SBG gym. Used to have such the wrong impression of MMA. Thanks man
I have tremendous respect for this Aikido instructor for showing all the deficiencies in Aikido even though he has praxticed it for 13 years. I'm sure this demonstration will help him to cross train into something that will actually help him from getting hurt.
@@gerardvoughnfaust4167 No, it won't. Seagall is too pompous and into himself to say anyone can beat him. As far as he is concerned, Seagall thinks he will beat anybody he faces. 🙄
there are no deficiencies, Aikido I believe was meant for if someone grabs you or pushes you. I used to work out with a Hapkido master. I wish I would have practiced more with it .It can be very useful.
@@cat-lw6kq Aikido used to be bayonet fighting in the 1930s, when the amys invaded japan, they didn't allow any kind of martial art that involved weapons, that's how aikido lost it's soul Nowadays, it's a great sport to understand movement, body placement, forces opposition etc.
100%! Much like other arts, I'm certain there are viable techniques in Aikido that could be brought to MMA, but you have to train with resistance to figure those out.
@@gttechlife Aikido is only effective if someone's using a knife.... That is the reason it was formed. As a fighting style it sucks, there is other arts out there that pretty much cover grapples and submissions more effectively.
Well, it wasn't a fight fight. It was more of a demonstration type thing. Once he got lifted up, the point was made, no need to actually hurt the guy. Shows the MMA dude's professionalism.
Because he knows he has the ability to f him up, but opts not to. The presenter is quite likeable, he wasted 13 years on a fake martial art, on some level he knew that going in. Any honourable MMA fighter would have given him the same treatment.
@DJ BLACKWHOLE Then don't put it on the same level as a martial discipline. Instead, teach and proclaim it to be something like yoga or old-people taichi.
@DJ BLACKWHOLE aikido is an excellent art in clenches, grabs, and closer ranges. Long range it is not very good simply because they do not practice much striking.
I have been an Aikido practitioner for over 12 years and achieved a black belt at 17. I can say this with 100% confidence: it is an extremely incomplete martial art. In the dojo, we are learned to counter moves we anticipate, moves in a certain direction/style, moves that will 99% of the time never come to you in real combat like a silver spoon. I have taken Jeet Kune Do for two years and boxing for four to realize the importance of positioning and more practical counters, footwork, and interception. I believe Aikido only shines when you position yourself in a position that limits the range/options of the opponents attack. In a street fight, if your first choice of defense is to rely on an Aikido move, get ready to kiss the floor.
@@mikedasilva5239 i can't speak for the others but Ueshiba sensei, who my grandmaster was one of the earliest pupils of, derived Aikido from traditional Jyujutsu after the Russo Japanese War. Jyujutsu is a martial art meant for hand-to-hand combat in war time. I think Aikido was meant to evolve Jyujutsu theory but practically speaking it's not easy to do.
@@MadPianoLife In his old age, Uyeshiba sensei became spiritual and his Aikido became soft, circular and artistic. His Aikido lost the combat efficiency of earlier times. As an old master, he was not required to accept challenges.
You sir, are a true martial artist. I respect what you did so much. The issue many people from the Grappling/BJJ/MMA community have with many practitioners of more traditional styles is that so few will do what you did in this video, yet they will debate and claim why their style would work against a grappler or MMA fighter. They will talk theory all day but not test it live. You have set an amazing example not just for those types, but for ANYONE who is doing any style of martial arts. The quest for knowledge, improvement, truth, testing yourself, stepping out of your comfort zone and growing is what it is all about. Nothing but respect for you man!
Agreed. Hes a dancer. And i doubt he is practicing authentic aikido. Real aikido has strikes. Just likes japanese jiujitsu which it comes from. The founder of aikido himself said aikido should be 85 percent striking 15 percent locks. The atemi aka strikes create the environment for the locks. Id love to see a yoshinkan aikidoka in mma or. Someone who practices old school. Cuz prrsonally, though i dont practice aikido i have studied how it works and i can pull off a good amount of it in the ring. But i practice full contact mma regularly. So yeah. This guy needs to do some good sparring. Maybe he will be able to usebhisnsills then. And trybwith mma gloves. The boxing gloves made it harder. Also not going full speed makes aikido useless cuz there is no energy from your opponent to manipulate. So its harder to off ballance and twist etc.
I love how there is no ego here. What a great video. So different the X smashes Y ones I've grown accustomed to. Two classy martial artists comparing notes in a respectful and honest way. I love it!!
Hey brother, that took a LOT of balls! My respects to you! I started traditional arts in 1981, then after my first MMA fight, getting wiped out by a Muay Thai fighter in 1993, I tried to forget everything I’d learned from Karate, and switched to train under the Muay Thai fighter that kicked my ass, then finding BJJ in 1995. Never looked back. What you did, putting yourself and your style out there like that took a LOT of courage, and I wanted to be an old man who’s survived nearly 40 years and going strong in the arts, to salute you for taking that risk. I hope that it expands your world in whatever ways you’re hoping for.
It actually took a lot of what we call, GALL - not 'balls'. Your experience with Karate has NO bearing on the fact that this guy NEVER understood ['stood-UNDER-the -PRINCIPLES-of] HIS chosen art, Aikido. In other words, his whole presentation here is IRRELEVANT to those who DO understand and CAN apply aikido. You should try to NARROW down this guy's world, he's already 'expanding' it with WAY too much AIR. If you want to enrich your OWN journey, give the attention to REAL aikido practitioners who DO address the faults commonly criticized regarding the training methodologies of many aikido schools, and who prove that there IS validity to it, even if as PART of a training LIFE. All the best with YOUR journey bro, just take care that you're not being fooled by false 'humility' and fake 'honesty'.
I gave this video a like not because I like aikido or think it's effective, but beacuse I like how humble and sincere that was to just go out and test your skill against a good fighter. Kudos for that.
crab man speaking as someone who trains Aikido and BJJ every week trying to adapt aikido to the ring will erode what the art does correctly, and is a wrong turn
People because of the mma hype try to shame everything that is not related to the 3 populars styles there. Catchjitsu is not so old, it's a waste he won't take parts in the circuits. To me, the biggest issue about mma and ufc is that the rules favor too much brazilian jiu jitsu for example. It may be shameful, but I'd like the revival of the old ufc where there was almost no rules, I know it's not safe and deaths could occur easily but at least it should exist legally. In most countries for random fighting and even selfdefense you can get sent in prison for a long time on worst cases. Martial artists that want to challenge themselves don't want to be forced to go to battlefields or undergrounds fights where dopping is a common thing. In history, martial arts were meant for survival and used in wars before guns appeared, it should not be lost in tradiational forms or sports. I'm not saying a martial art must become corrupted and diluted like WTF taekwondo (olympic circus)or the taichiqan with the martial arts material totally skippedby 99/100 teachers, but a "sports"branch should appear to not fall behind the "trends" of an era.
2 years on and still mad respect for this experiment. I had some similar experience with testing and eventually leaving Wing Chun. I genuinely felt I could fight, then I walked into a Muay Thai gym to spar. I now walk into that gym at least 2 times a week. Unless you've done it, there's nothing like having a false sense of confidence fall apart as it feels like your legs are going to 😅. No matter what you do, what you've done. You're a brave guy, without people like you that are willing to test Traditional Martial Arts they will never progess. I personally think it's less about technique (although it does play a part) it's more about training methods as I think this is a good example of how different training methods breed different results
The thing about Wing Chun is that it can actually be a devastating thing to add to your arsenal when you're ALREADY a good, trained martial artist. I used to love to suddenly pull some WC techniques out of my ass in the middle of kickboxing sparring, even if just to break the rhytm and be unpredictable. Aikido on the other hand... can't really see a situation in which any of this stuff would be useful in any way.
Ryszard Bizon IIRC, that's because Wing Chun is just outdated, but their techniques are originally based with actual fighting in mind. At least that's what Reddit told me.
@@illiiilli24601 there's a good video on here analysing Roberto Duran fighting on the inside. It's as good as practical Wing Chun as you'll get. A lot of Wing Chun is using close range fighting thinking it will work on the outside. A few sparring sessions in a boxing gym show that it breaks some of those absolute basic rules of reality.
I'm super surprised to hear someone say this concerning wing chun. I guess my instructor was kinda low tech and ghetto in his instruction. His first lesson was him with a short stick that was supposed to simulate a dagger. He poked and smacked me around for 15 minutes and asked me why I didn't run. He was a very practical man lol. Most everything he taught me was striking and foot work. He showed me all the forms but said I should learn how to get hit and hit back before even thinking about trying to use em. I'm no Bruce lee, but I learned how to handle myself pretty quick in a street fight.
Much respect to you for putting your Aikido to the test and humbly accepting that it's not as worthy a martial art as you had been led to believe. As a former martial art practitioner myself I had a similar phenomenon training with BJJ experts after doing Tae Kwon Do for 3 years and getting my ass kicked so I know the feeling!
Tae Kwon Do is still useful for developing kicking flexibility which can go a long way. But yea if youre using pure Tae Kwon Do someone is gonna take you down if theyre allowed to.
I agree... Now I'm doubting this guy... I'm also a practitioner and I have done a bunch of sparring with MMA guy's definitely bigger than me and even found it easy... And all the techniques I learned from my master actually work against this types of fighters. The only thing that matter is don't try to remember the technique that you want to use just let it flow to you. And apply it effectively and try to use the more effective techniques. And if that guy really trains in aikido, he really needs more practice. Especially his focus this guy really lacks focus especially when fighting. Have you tried entering the flow state during battle?? or have you ever tried actual combat not sparring but a real fight??? probably not. Try to have harsher and more aggressive randori with attackers that will really try to kill you and with guys who knows different martial arts like karate, boxing, muay thai, taekwondo etc, and put guy's with weapons such as knives, sticks and bolos. That will probably enhanace your skill. That's how we practice and do Randori at our dojo. We invite different martial artist and have a fight with them and have harsh randori's. You've got more training to do. It's not that aikido didn't work its just that you don't know how to use it yet.
Respect to this guy for putting himself in the fire and his ego/rep on the line. Note: To ANYONE who says "this isn't a real aikido instructor" or that he's "doing the techniques all wrong" - Please post a youtube video of yourself in a no rules no time limit fight with an MMA fighter and we would all be happy to see it. If you're just going to sit behind your computer and talk shit stfu
Hi Wade - I actually made the exact same statement some time ago and the next thing ya know , some dork is trying to pick a fight with me- of course no vid of him doing what you and I asked for never came about -hmmmmmm- keyboard Ninja?
It's really disrespectful to question a guy's technique and his credentials when he put himself out there and actually tried it. Sure some of the aikido techniques are effective, but the majority of it doesn't work against a resisting opponent. If you train ANY martial art that doesn't practice live sparring against a resisting opponent (not just aikido) - you're going to have an unrealistic expectation of how things are going to go.
I like to think of it like a spinning backfist. Any boxer will tell you don't turn your back in a fight. But, given the right circumstances, it COULD work. We live in a day and age where anyone who isn't super-eclectic with it should most definitely be learning all there is to know about their chosen tradition, so that knowledge is expounded upon, rather than lost
I really wish there were more realistic videos in regards to fighting like this. No ego. No pride. Just an honest legitimate assessment of a style put to the test. Thank you for the humble video!
Oss. Lot's of respect. Not many people will go out of their comfort zone and with such honesty. I have done many Martial Arts in the past but since 2004 I have been sticking to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I have tried Aikido, it is a very beautiful, elegant and difficult martial art to master. As for training, as long as you are having fun, it doesn't matter what you are learning.
@@highviewseeker5415 Not really. In a street fight people are usually not that experienced. Knowing simple defensive techniques that are easy to perform and combine it with decent street smarts and ur set against mostly all street fighters. Honestly all those flashy techniques wont help u and aikido basic techniques will go along way.
@@Mkvs68 no offense man and sorry for what happened to your friend also but if someone has a knife pull on you, you shouldn't engage em even if u know MAA. A person with a knife will win everytime unless ur someone who spares all the time and is a professional. You can blame Aikido but it's more like its the guys fault who pulled a knife because its rare for someone to even do any technique in any intense like that.
Great video! I've done aikido for about 5 years many years ago, when I was younger.. In my experience I'd say that aikido is maybe something like martial art movement discipline. Whoever says aikido would work against skilled boxer or bjj practitioner is delusional, chances are minimal. But those who say aikido is worthless, simply do not understand it. Don't know about it's origins, purpose, what basis it was created upon. I'd dare to say that many aikido school don't know themselves and try to create some badass image about it, hyped by Steven Seagal movies. His direction of aikido is not really appreciated in Europe where many school follow traditional, original version, not the Hollywood version of it. I did a bit of muay thai (before becoming a dadbot, lol) which gave me great insight. Aikido taught me a lot regarding timing, balance, reflexes, stance, body movement awareness etc. Some fundamentals which I really appreciate. I'd love to start some martial art, but this time it would be either continuing on muay thai or other striking MAs, or try bjj.
0 Ego , both guys . Great video, i really admire the Aikido practicioner stepping out of his comfort zone. Keep it up, i just subscribed and i am glad i found this channel.
this cousin of mine, a former security personnel for a bank, told me about their training in Aikido and how he can easily escape from getting caught from behind... i told him i watch UFC a lot but never trained, so he wanted to demonstrate to me how he will escape in such a situation, so i took his back and gave him a RNC with some hooks on the leg... he couldnt escape and was fuming mad and told me to let go... LOL..
Still after so many years I have so much respect for you. For your humility and your bravery and not hiding away, just a constant search for knowledge. I always try to stay on that path.
I applaud you for having the guts to put yourself to a "REAL" test. I don't believe even a better Akidoist would have been any more successful. It is what it is.
I am not an aikidoist as you say but how is this a real test? This is a ring, there following rules, there are no weapons involved, not potential threat of others joining in the fight. It's a sport fight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking sport fighting. It holds more self defense value than most but let's keep it real, it's not fully equipped for the realities of life and death conflict. Combat and sport are two words that have no place together.
John Savaria How the fuck is MMA not a combat sport? You think aikido is going to help you in a "real fight" more than ACTUALLY fighting? You're brainless, mate Your entire comment is all over the place. No direction, no structure. What point are you even trying to make?
I never said that aikido is a fighting art. it's not and was never supposed to be. People train in martial arts for many reasons not all of them for fighting. Combat and sport are two words that have no place together. I am not saying that MMA is bad or does not have a sound self defense value, but there is nothing combative about it. People toss around the word combat way to loosely. MMA is a great supplement to combat arts but not exclusively combat. You can't expect a one on one encounter, without weapons, following rules, a referee and mat in a life and death encounter. Standing in the static zone exchanging blows has limitations, and going to the ground can be suicide. Definitely pays to have that knowledge but immediately being able to drop and immobilize the threat is vital for military, law enforcement and general citizens in a street attack. It's not as exciting to watch as sport fighting but it's not supposed to be.
what MMA tournaments & UFC are not combat. Sparing is not combat. There are no rules, referees, or time outs, in combat... & tapping out means you are dead. Combat is a life & death fight. Roman gladiator tournaments were combat. War is combat. Learn the difference instead of resorting to strawman arguments.
Both of you displayed the very best part of martial arts, showing good judgment and integrity in a situation that could have easily become quite hostile.
Yepp...No sparring-no feeling for fight...You have realistic and honorable approach and that deserves BIG RESPECT. Keep up with great work. Grettings from Croatia. Mario.
Sparring is in sport and there is as much real "fight" in sparrings as there is in chess match. The difference is that chess players dont put "Martial Arts" in the name to trick people into thinking that they are watching martial art not a sport.
Aikido is a waste of time, this video literally tells you that. I'm sure aikido has history and is very interesting to learn, but let's face it, people want to be confident and tough especially the freaks and physcopaths what walk our streets today, and the skirts you have to wear.......just says it all.
I wonder , defense is the total show in martial arts , not offensive fighting , a defensive fighter allows the offensive fighter to make the mistakes .
madmar 2612 not a wast of time by no means. You have to remember in MMA it’s a study of all martial arts,not just one. Put a guy in there with a Karate only background and it would be that same result.
I had to watch this again. Great video and major respect for both Martial Artists. This video could potentially save an Aikido practitioner from being seriously injured in a fight against a Mixed Martial Artist. There is an unbelievable amount of people out there who think that their Martial Art is superior or at least on par with Mixed Martial Artist training and that could really wind up getting those people who believe that hurt AND that does not just go for Aikido practitioners either. It goes for all disciplines. However, at least this Aikido Instructor made a very real video showing the honest truth when it comes to real fighting. Again, major respect for this man and the Mixed Martial Martist. In closing the Aikido Instructor is absolutely correct in saying that Aikido could help and potentially be very effective against average joes on the street because not everyone is a seasoned "fighter". So its not like Aikido is "useless" when it comes to defending yourself using it in a fight against an average person. Thank you for your humbleness sir!
Key here you mentioned is that a fight against the average person! people have to realize that with all these x vs. y type settings. agreed with your assesment.
I believe Aikido would become more useful if one is trained in the ring, in sparring, and in at least basic MMA defense and basic MMA techniques. I believe a lot of these TMA can become more useful if the right training and experience is added to it.
It's good to learn a hard and soft style. Aikido may fill the soft style category quite well. MMA is MIXED, meaning they train grappling as well as striking. What we saw here was a practitioner that knew both sides of the coin set against a practitioner of only one side.
So, while I respect you, and agree with you for the most part, can you explain to me when aikido would EVER have to test itself against MMA? I can't see an aikido practitioner attacking anybody for no reason, are you suggesting that MMA fighters would do that?
When you're building a house and you put the plumbing in, you don't immediately build the walls around the pipes; you charge the lines with water and see where the leaks are (and there always are leaks). You fix them, then you build the walls. You've taken your martial art out into the world to see where the leaks are and I totally respect you for it.
Respectfully, entertainment value aside, you two (UKrissy and Triioop) miss the point of this comment by Dard. He's offering a PHILOSOPHY for a lay person (one watching this video, about martial arts, not about DIY plumbing), not a METHODOLOGY for someone who's building a house and doing the plumbing. I for one find what Dard said a good point, something that would belong on a bumper sticker, if only it'd fit. What he's saying is that one ought to guess AND check, not just guess. And that wisdom, well-said, is precisely what the host of this video is doing (not saying, just actually doing). You two, your comments are cleaver, yet out of place and unhelpful (I'm sorry). Dard, while I have a lot to say to the gentleman who hosted this video but haven't yet exactly worked out what that is, I just want to say to you, your succinct analogy hits home with me and gives me a lot to think about in my own professional life which I may now try viewing from a different and more positive angle given the true substance behind what you wrote here. I just want you to know someone out here in the chaos of RUclips appreciates your contribution (and again, I mean no offense to the two viewers who already offered their witty comments).
Certainly is HIS martial art, not Morihei Ueshiba's that's for sure. The flooding that you call 'leaks' is all his own doing, not aikido's. Your sentiment is well meant, but Rokas doesn't deserve it here.
So this is a PRIME example of something that is woefully inadequate in many "traditional" martial arts schools. That is the lack of full contact sparring. You can drill technique and hit pads for 15 years but until you face someone who is actively trying to attack/resist you you will have no clue what to do. You could even train MMA for years not sparring, and the minute you get into the ring with someone even going 60% your skills will revert right back to that first day you stepped in the gym. Getting hit is scary, it hurts, it is frustrating and it is disorienting/confusing especially at first. When you spar consistantly you will learn how to take punches and how to avoid panic and flinching, you gain confidence to implement defensive techniques with a clear head and how to begin weaving your own strategies. I would be FAR more scared of getting to a fight with some untrained guy who gets in a lot of bar fights vs a karate master of 30 years who has never even sparred full contact because the street fighter is not going to panic when you attack him . I was an amateur boxer when in my late teens and early 20s and also did some mma and muay thai. It takes along time even sparring 3-4 times a week to get to the point where you feel somewhat comfortable in the ring against another trained fighter. Getting hit SUCKS, you just have to learn the techniques to ignore the pain and fear to be able to function effectively. And in the end, not everyone can do it and they quickly learn that actually fighting isn't for them and they either quit or just train for fun. Great video
Jay you are absolutely right. It’s true in other high contact sports as well. Track guys can come play WR or CB and run routes or coverages on the practice field. But you’re not a football player until you get hit or deliver a hit. Then it gets real. I love that the Aikido artist was not delusional and knew going in that this was going to be different than any of his previous 13 years of Aikido. That humility made it easy for the MMA fighter to be gracious and helpful. The Aikido artist showed honest respect to the fighter and the fighter showed respect back and was willing to teach. Great video.
MrSucc i believe that the solar plexus is one of those parts of the body that you can't train to become more resistant , just like getting hit in your balls or your jaw.
Fantastic display of control from the MMA fighter, excellent attitude of humility and a desire to learn from the Aikido practitioner. Great sparring session, great video.
3:51 Oh my goodness this is such a sweet moment. What a considerate sparring partner. Edit: Also, mad respect to the uploader for doing this and actually seeking reality in a way that more traditional martial artists should
Much respect. I began training with an MMA coach after 17 years in Chinese and FMA when my priorities shifted from art to self defence. The reality check was a bitter pill to swallow - I was able to transfer over much less than I imagined. I saw the same pain in your expressions here - kudos for bearing it with such grace.
I trained aikido for a few years and now do MMA, and in certain situations there are things you can use from the former to the latter, but most of the time? No. Great video, it's good to see someone who let's go of ego and looks at it unbiased.
Aikido seems to rely too much on using the opponent's strength against them. Leveraging their bodies in order to do the flips and joint locks. Which is great against someone who isn't expecting it and who isn't used to fighting. But in the ring, it loses all it's effectiveness because the opponent is expecting the grabs, and therefore reacting accordingly. That's my take on it at least.. As a martial arts enthusiast.
In the old times it was effective in japanese medieval fights vs armored enmies soldiers but it was not the modern newly created aikido at this time. Remember that the ninjutsu gave birth "somehow" to japanese jiu jutsu, judo, and karate.
I give this man all the credit in the world for opening himself up to this. It takes a big person to be willing to put themself in a position that proves that something they've spent so much time perfecting is basically useless in a real fight situation. I'm guessing the he has grown significantly because of this experience.
Thank you SO much for this video. It's obvious that it took a lot of humbleness, honesty, transparency, and ego-neutralization to go for something like this, and be so graceful and honest about it. Our martial-arts world really needs more demonstrations and videos like this. And this is independent of the level of the traditional martial artist to begin with! Like, I really don't care what anyone has to say about your mastery of Aikido, for example; I just don't care. It's enough to know that you've been a practitioner for 13 years and an instructor for 5, and make an informed decision based on it. And frankly, this video doesn't even make you or Aikido look bad, at least in [my] eyes. How come? Well, you already said that there's no competition in Aikido; that alone conveys mountains of meanings when pitting an Aikido practitioner against an MMA fighter. Moreover, perhaps Aikido itself, as an art, can be readjusted a little to produce an evolved version of it that can make it practical and applicable in the MMA ring, kind of in a similar manner to how Bruce Lee thought about several martial arts and what he did to them.
It's very clear that Aikido doesn't work in these kind of situations (as in this video). But in a real street confrontation, it's better to have Aikido than to have nothing! "seek and you will find....and do everything in love"-- The Holy Bible
You have to respect this guy as It's guys like this who push their TMA on and improve it through evolving it. Pressure testing and seeing what's effective and what's not in different situation.
SO true, the MMA guy was a really good sport and did not take advantage of 13 years of learning an art form never intended for a street fight type of situation
i have mad respect for your honesty man, i was practising aikido for 2 years and i can't apply the technique on a real fight. Now i do boxing because your video enlightened me
I think where Aikido may be more useful, is WHEN you know other arts like BJJ, Muay Thai, Judo, etc. Then, you can maybe be in a better position to combo off other arts and be in a real position to utilize a few Aikido moves that could catch others off guard and be dangerous in its own way.
What I find interesting is, Morihei Ueshiba was already an experienced martial artist before he even started training in Aikijujutsu. He had plenty of experience applying his skills in active sparring, and impressed a lot of skilled martial artists in his time with his abilities. But somewhere along the line, it seems like he decided he'd worked out some correct set of techniques and applications and that his students shouldn't need to practice them in sparring or combat, and that doing so would be contrary to the philosophy of the style. Most likely his own practical skills deteriorated as well as he stopped training against seriously resisting opponents. At some point, he probably had something workable for at least some significant set of combat applications. A lot of high ranking practitioners of judo held him in high regard, and some who started training with him supposedly did so after testing their own skills against him. But it seems like he developed an approach to passing on his skills to his students which simply didn't work in terms of preparing them for actual application.
Its good to add onto Judo and bjj base. Some of the locks can be pulled off. Like a wrist lock when you got knee on belly... That's all I've ever used from aikido lmao. Learned 1 wrist lock well the idea behind it. And left to go back to bjj.
Yep that was not Akido hype video because there was no Aikido... the guy didnt even bother to hold Aikido stance(first thing you lern in any good Aikido dojo...). ROTFL
Any MMA gym will give you the chance of trying out your Aikido in the ring. I suggest you take your Aikido and try holding a stance against someone who knows how to fight.
"I suggest you" to google UFC rules and read it! When i did that last time i found that out of 30 things that are forbiden in UFC 15 was about Aikido... To hard thing to do for MMA fanboy? Its against your strong belief that MMA is most realistic martial art?
You know MMA is not the same thing as the UFC right? Whatever rules there are in the UFC does not govern what you practice in MMA. If you're so confident about your Aikido abilities you should test them against someone who knows how to fight, just like the guy in this video did.
Great video! I worked in a county jail for 20+ years before retiring. I began training in Aikido during my first week on the job, as that was what they taught us at work. I also received personal training on a regular basis for the first 2 years with a 9th Dan Aikika who taught me a number of techniques that comprised Iwama-style Aikido. I’ve mixed it up plenty of times with convicts during my 20+ years in jail, and based on my experience when you’re being attacked by a true hard and fast hitting thug, using Aikido techniques never entered my mind. But when dealing with a convict who is passively resistant or mildly physically resistant (e.g., doesn’t want to let you put cuffs on him), Aikido was HIGHLY effective. I effectively used countless times techniques such as Sankyo (katame waze), Ikkyo, and Kote-Gaeshi (Wrist Reversal). My personal opinion is that every law enforcement officer should train in various forms of martial arts, but learning Aikido should be mandatory training for officers.
He basically can only use the Aikido techniques when the partner perform exactly like the routine training. With any minor change, he is not capable of using any of those learned techniques. Sad though.
@@kwjtam Aikido does have its limitations, but as a person who has years of Aikido training and who has put it to use in corrections many times, I can honestly say that it’s definitely an effective way to escape and evade and to gain a passively resistant person’s compliance through pain-compliance techniques.
Alex Vasquez you must not be a martial artist. I’ve been training various arts since the age of 7 and what is applicable in real life situations is very extremely limited in every one of them. From bjj to boxing to karate ect. All things have real application and things that are strictly for the individual sport. This is well known by these two gentlemen and most actual martial artists
Tyrone McDonald Exactly. When I see a person bash on one type of fighting style, it makes me sad. Even within one style, they can be very different - Sport TKD vs traditional TKD, for example. For years, I only cared about karate or kung fu. I thought TKD in general was a joke, due to how bad action movies use it (I didn't know enough at the time). Then a Polish guy started a traditional TKD class, and I tried it out...it was NOT what I expected. That's when I realized every style has its merits, and its place. If you want to fight for points, TKD is going to look pretty soft and worthless. But when I trained in TKD for only self defense, it was crazy to see how much power it had. Aikido, kung fu, karate, BJJ, etc...it's all got useful stuff. But if you have to find what you want from it - health, self defense, sport?
Wow, I remember watching your Aikido videos like a decade ago and just recently got back into watching martial art RUclips videos. It’s so cool to see your first interaction with MMA and now you’re competing! So cool to see your “martial arts journey” through the years now and I wish you best of luck. I second, third, and repeat what everyone is saying, props for sharing and demonstrating humility. Keep it up! P.S. would also be kind of interesting to hear your wife’s opinion on it all!
I have to recognize you are a very honest man. To expose your martial art that way, for the sake of what is real fighting is amazing from you to do. With your understanding of movement through Aikido, I think you can appreciate better how real fighting works. Thank you a lot. Great video.
You deserve a ton of respect for your humility in doing this. I know far too many martial artists who wouldn't step foot in an MMA gym, or the school of another art, because their ego is to fragile to handle the reality check. Having trained in Aikido in my younger years I can appreciate the art, but the "insular" nature of training limits its potential greatly.
Dude, I commend you on putting your art on the line, even though it failed. And also, your training partner, as he seemed to really drop his ego and go easy with no intent to injure or humiliate you. Hopefully, you might expand your aikido with some more easily applicable arts if you get the chance.
honestly, let me tell you smth from personal experience. I am an aikido practitioner for ~3.5 years, and this phrase is what my Sensei told me on the very first day I came to train. After watching a lot of youtube (aikido included) I realised what the problem is. My sensei knew about this all along and then explained that there are different aikido directions, and some are better than others. In a nutshell, don't trust Aikikai Aikido (the most popular and weakest direction) which is about what choreography is, due to the history of Japan in the cities after WW2. And last but not least, it is always good to take info from other arts.
@@Luciothecommenter and Steven seagle said that he learnt aikido of tenshi aikido ..and said that after WW2 aikido remove or lethal strikes from the art too..
Its incredible how doing aikido is actually worse than not even training anything. As the aikido guy tried to to aikido techniques, instead of just throwing punches like a completely untrained guy,he actually put himself in a much more perilous position
@@jamescarr4662 Then it should stop acting like it.Aikido practicioners act like they are fighters and use the same ,,we don't fight in aikido because it can kill you" shit phrase over and over again.Then if it's not for fighting why it makes you feel like you know how to fight when it clearly won't and you will get knocked the fuck out using aikido in a street fight
@@yourmomcallsmedaddy7274 where did you hear an aikido practitioner say something like "we don't fight in aikido because it can kill you" ?? they must not have followed Aikido classes then x)
@@yourmomcallsmedaddy7274 That's kind of interesting, because I thought the whole point of Aikido was to be pacifist, and be able to stop attacks without hurting anyone. The main criticism I always heard about Aikido is that your opponent(s) can just get up and try and again, so they'll eventually get lucky. But that assumes Aikido actually works in the first place.
As a traditional martial artist who spars and had to overcome that "fear" of getting punched and throw the ego to the floor....I can say WELL DONE. Not many people can do what you've done and record it. I might not agree with your conclusions...but OSS (respect) to your attitude. And you've shown MMA guys are generally like that guys...humble and receptive.
ya people seem to think we're monsters the sport (and good coaches) doesnt allow for assholes its dangerous (like in other MA's) to train with people who are in it just to hurt you
totally in love with this video!! Amazing people! I don't know about how aikido will work in ring or real world, but I can see that practice of aikido can make you a wonderful human being!!
I practice in aikido along with MMA it works as long as you know how to fight first alot of these videos are people who have never fought outside of aikido so they are clueless to real life punching an kicking Aikido is a real fighting style an does hurt like hell if applied properly but you have to be able to know when to go for a move an when not to in a real fight. Out of all martial arts I have taken I enjoy aikido the most but I also never stray from my striking arts as well you mist be well rounded
And also, this is by no means a normal fight. his opponent is a higly skilled, highly experienced fighter. so its very likely to seem ineffective against him.
Amazing video and analogy. Btw, the MMA guy told you how to apply Aikido in real life. You mentionned Combat Aikido which incorporate elements of the MMA guy advice. I have seen it in my AikiJutjitsu class and they do it in self-defense course and CloseQuarterCombat... they bring people in body armor and simulate real life situation to train the brain. I did years of aikijutjitsu loved it beyond anything but I knew it wasn't enough in the striking-cardio-street fighting element... cause you need to learn strike and take hit. In these years, I got in a few street fights... interestingly I used more Aikijutjitsu techniques in these fights than the muay thai... but muay thai contribute to living under the stress and opponent of confrontation. If you want to improve your aikido techniques in ''street life'' mode... get some striking classes (boxing,mma etc.) or do these matchup with MMA gloves and train on the tatami... Aikido helped you become a better person that's the important part. I did Aikido but it wasn't ''rough'' enough for me
After this experience I went on to train MMA full time for a full year, had an amateur MMA fight and then sparred with the same MMA fighter again. See the results here: ruclips.net/video/-78SnIEuDg0/видео.html
So you did Akido for 13 years and did not expect to be able to fight someone with it?
Why? When during your Akido practice did you realize that it was not effective?
There wasn't aikido even once during this fight. Of course, Aikido is not really teached nowadays, and most of schools are not what was created as Aikido, but, damn, you've got 13 years of training and didn't managed to enter your agressor! Not a single attack, no punches, no kicks, no iniciative?! On 6:55 you "went for a throw", what was that??? you had your arm on his neck, why didn't you hit him? Then you went to "grab his hand" and took a punch (atemi), just like any uke would do (was he the aikidoist or you?)! Good for you noticing your training years were not good for you, but I bet you are today more aikidoist than back this time. Now, you can blame Aikido, but, how is that if you didn't use it? I mean, how can you train a martial discipline that gave Ueshiba's dojo the name of "hell's dojo" and not even develop some muscles? That's not Aikido, not even close. Guess it's not your fault. MMA looks better for you.
Well said, cause I thought I was the only one. There’s no way you have 13 years under your belt and demonstrate aikido like that, it felt like you’ve never had someone actually strike you in a real situation before or you were just scared to get hurt.
@@daniloprudencio3300 It's easier said than done.
@@pauloalongi6012 true, but I've seen it get done, and didn't even take 13 years, so it's not important. It doesn't mean it's easy, it takes training.
Imagine being 13 years in and being humble enough to accept that it's not really what you thought it was. Honest and humble. Well done.
I'm not sure he is saying that, was he? I also trained aikido and loved it, but not for a second did I think I could beat a competitive fighter from any style. It's a stylized art, and most serious aikido teachers acknowledge that.
Mma is designed to defeat other martial arts quickly and effectively. Traditional arts are still beautiful and worth the time and training. As long as the teachers are honest and open about the fact they are not combat worthy in a ring with combat trained men and women. There is a place for both. I train MMA but I also study my base of Ken Po, each has its values, but I would NEVER use it in a situation that was against a trained mix martial artist, I enjoy the traditional training, especially the weapons based martial art of it, but it would take a real fool to try traditional martial arts in a ring against someone who is trained to destroy and optimize movements against traditional arts
@@beentheredonethat5908 I definitely agree with you on that. Traditional arts more grounded in rhythm and almost dance, not designed or practiced with real combat in mind still have value. If nothing else it can be calming and enjoyable. There doesn't need to be anything beyond that. Personally, I'm a boxer, but I've done a bit of things, bjj, kickboxing, wrestling, judo.
@@supertotoro having watched some of his other videos it seems that for many years he did think it was effective. But after he started noticing that it was never tested in combat situations he started to really doubt its effectiveness. I think that started some years ago. But he's always maintained his love for the art. Admittedly my practice of combat sports have very little to do with the goal of winning a fight on the street. It's a happy side effect.
@@jamiefinn4438 I will say this though anyone advanced in traditional arts holding a weapon, is very very dangerous. Depending on the art of course, a artist with a staff is insanely DANGEROUS. With no weapon it's nit a real combative style, especially with people of equal or greater strength. With a staff though, I wouldn't want any part of them lol.
Several years ago, I argued with a FRIEND who was from China and we'll trained in the arts, and I was getting ready for a powerlifting meet and out weighed him by 150lbs or so, he was a man on the sampler side, very fast and skilled though. I didn't WANT to fight but the language barrier and his ego made sure it did, I was a bit intimated, but he setting throwing kicks, it only took a second to learn he was able to hurt me, which surprised him as well. Needless to say it ended quickly with me taking him to the ground and wrapping him up until he calmed down. MMA has broken many hearts but traditional is beautiful and teaches about the self and connection of body and mind, I think they should train just for health benefits but for the calm and body control as well, maybe evolve a bit. We have added contact soaring to my style recently, and that alone makes it more effective. Anyone that is afraid to get hit will lose in a fight
With respect to all of the experienced or professional opinions here, I think this guys greatest asset has nothing to do with skill. The ability to overcome his ego and allow himself to be vulnerable, completely exposed, is his greatest asset. No dogma, just a willingness to test himself without the fear of humiliation. That's what will allow him to grow in his art where others will stagnate.
Old School, I agree. That's a sign of wisdom.
Yeah but then you have to start acting on that wisdom, not do the same dumb stuff that doesn't work over and over and call it wisdom.
It's gotta start somewhere.
I couldn't find a better way to express it. great guy, open minded to check what's real, not trying to pretend.
agree with old-school
This is rare to see. Someone who was devoted to something that not only he loved, but also made a living and name out of it, to then take the humble truth seeking approach resulting in him walking away from lies and fantasies. Mankind would be in a lot better place if more people were like you man. Mad respect.
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everybody here is lying because that what y'all want hear and satisfy your ego to say hey look I was right.
the fact is nobody has practiced this enough against someone else to actually evolve the skills. every martial art can be affective if you know how to use. my first time sparring a guy who been boxing for 6 years, I whooped his ass and everybody thought I was lying about my skills, they thought I been boxing for a while but the reality is I have never actually boxed in my life before that fight and I was schooling a pro boxer for 8 rounds. I learned boxing just watching casually. the truth about skills is you have to compete not just say ohh look I have been doing this for 50 years but you never actually fought anyone
Good point.
And it seems like he had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen anyways, so it's not like he believed the lies and fantasies in the first place.
@Dodadeus aikido has never been practiced the way it is practiced to day for fighting ever in history. Aikido is an aspect of the samurai philosophy and a thing for samurai to boost help and calm their mind. A lot of Japanese martial arts are meant to create good civilians and cultivate people not make them ultimate fighting machines.
It is no shame to practice a martial art that focuses on culture rather than fighting. You get some concepts of self defense but it is more like a dance. I know a former dancer who is good at doing kata because of her background and absolutely loves it. She says herself that she Is not a fighter and so what? Not anyone needs to seek ultimate fighting skills.
@@pedrojello8983 *yawn*
Much respect for sharing your journey and your humility.
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The core of Aikido is humility (I think?)
That means he may have lost the fight, but overall he won from the experience
The mma fighter was very humble and nice. Very good training partner. And very good experience for aikido practitioner. Keep training and congratulations for your open mind
Much respect to the Aikido guys. Stepping out of your echo chamber in pursuit of truth is not easy.
That shows true discipline
I'm respecting only this guy, after all, all the traditional martial arts continuing to follow into a distant place related to the competitive martial arts, afraid to test it.
Good work man, what you did was amazing!
@Dale Doback not really. Aikido's complete lack of offensive techniques make impossible for you to use any of the techniques at all, however, mix any effective martial art with it and you are going to be a really scary Person to deal with. It's a complementary martial art. Ueshida, the creator of aikido, was a master of other martial arts when he created it, and he actually required his students to be a black belt in at least one martial art before taking his classes, that's why it doesn't have any offensive techniques or that much techniques at all. Learning aikido without prior martial arts practice, is like trying to get a master's degree without getting a bachelor's degree first, you're gonna get buttfucked.
@Amanda Vanessa Lopez soooooooo Muaykido no Jutsu? MMA-LITE?
Gary Redmond Ik you made this comment a year ago but what do you mean the pursuit of truth everybody know akido guys would get smashed against anyone who isn’t playing with them
I started the video with "great another fake martial artist" and I ended up with " mad respect to this man".
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linkus raziel same!
same!!!!!!!!!!
When he said "in an MMA context, it's not gonna work so well" he won my respect already
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5:28 your black belt in Aikido didn’t work -against a highly trained MMA fighter. But here’s a question you’ve never touched on... do you think your aikido would have worked against a lower belted MMA or TMA fighter? Could your aikido have worked against a green or red belt karate or Judo practitioner?
because he's a weak aikido black belt! this is not what we learn in the dojo...
That's when he lost mine : wrong mindset for fighting, wrong mindset for aikido. he was just admitting early that he didn't have a clue about either so that his feigned 'humility' might cover for his inherent insecurity and cultivated inadequacy.
@@abdoukarimgueye6851 Only aikido dudes would berate one of their own like this without telling what they "learned"
Ironically this "embarrassment" is actually increasing respect for his art. I think his community should appreciate that.
@Rafael Acosta 😂😂
@Rafael Acosta Segal is the personification of enjoying the smell of your own farts.
I respect him and not the art.
@Grannvale Flame Emperor That's true, its an art form. But there are even Tai Chi "fighters" in China. Watch Xu Xiadongs videos about that.
@Grannvale Flame Emperor There is one where Tai Chi fighters insisted a fight at his Hotel Lobby and wont let him go. Quite big guys.
It is great to see an Aikido person not talking his way out, but actually making an effort to find out and taking the results with humility. Double thumbs-up.
Thanks!
People like him actually learn ... Aikido guy has been too focused with willing partners ... now he needs to get over fear or new guys and learn to guard and have decent punching ability ... to fully employ his aikido.
+AikidoSiauliai
I learned from my Aikido teachers that the greeting "O negai shimasu" can also be understood in the sense of "let us learn from each other" as an expression of mutual respect and humility.
So, judging from the video and your comment at the end, I'd say you too have a clear grasp of that meaning. :-) Good for you!
A bit of Judo would serve you well. You've learnt throws, but not throws that are required "in the moment". I'd follow with a little boxing, or muay thai, to learn how to strike. I think BJJ might be a little too brutal for someone with your kind of temperament.
Definitely some boxing or kickboxing training would help, not so much for strikes, but to get used to strikes coming at you and how to dodge and block. Some standup wrestling would help too for close distances.
Respect to the aikido guy who like any good martial artist is always willing to learn 🙏
Kudos to both of you. This is the way MA should be performed, self critical and what the MA seem to have lost, RESPECT for each other.
You are a credit to the world of Martial Arts. I'm a 30 year veteran of fighting and teaching -- and this level of integrity and lack of need to prove an ego is incredibly admirable. A deep bow to you sir.
You’re flick alone could probably make me bleed, I wouldn’t wanna know what one of your punches feels like
@@giga_chad9 These days, although I still practice - I am old and riddled with pain. Not much of a worthy adversary for most. However, I do appreciate your respect and thank you for it. Once one advances into higher black belt ranks of multiple fighting systems, knowledge of the complexity of the martial arts is humbling. It all boils down to one fundamental rule - once one enters a fight (save for competition) you have lost. I learned how to fight so that I didn't have to, should the need arise. It has paid huge dividends over the years. Taking up a system and devotion to that system, can be a true path to peace. Which is ultimately the most important aspect of life - in my opinion. Peace.
@@Xomenra01shit man a warrior in a garden type stuff, that’s amazing man, comments like these makes me wanna do wrestling and Muay Thai again, can’t wait to get back into that, but all in all my point is that guys like you are the reason why guys like me can train, thank you for your contribution the martial arts man💯
@@giga_chad9 My thanks to you... I'm honored by your enthusiasm and respect. I wish you the very best in your future adventures.
Came here expecting fake video hyping aikido up.
Boy, was I wrong...
Huge respect for you, man, your approach is pure gold
Sam Vimes the mma guy isn’t going hard at all he’s just going for technique they explained before they sparred. The mma guy knows he will win either way so he just went with it.
Sam Vimes not the point of the video
Sam Vimes the point is the mma guy isn’t going hard and still dominated. If you can’t see that then you’re blind.
Simone I totally agree with you
Hats off to this guy for removing all ego from the equation and actually trying to see whether or not his martial art is effective or not.
sonnyblack0870 Amen
Finally a comment from a decent normal human being. Definitely mad props to this aikido practitioner.
sonnyblack0870 nice profile pic
Completely agree here! Takes tremendous courage and lack of ego to record this comment honestly. Big Thumbs Up!
sonnyblack0870 i totally agree with you!
The most honest video i seen on youtube in a long time.
yep me too
The guy that is talking about Aikido all the time but not showing it at all? Creator of Aikido said that you can't explain Aikido with words you can learn it and master only via training... but this guy is so into "aikido" that he even ditched his Aikido uniform before he entered the ring... because he is "aikido master" that have hakama, he is showing it to make impresion that he is "aikido guy" but he would most likely trip over his own feet if he would try using hakama during his sparing. I also love the gloves on his hands, just to be sure that we will not gonna be able to do most of Aikido techniques even if he would have urge to try one. :D
@@Bialy_1 stay in your dreams
BS
@@Bialy_1 Totally correct : he threw ANYTHING to do with aikido out the window [mainly because he KNEW that HE could NOT 'make' IT work, took a quick pseudo lesson in boxing and 'shaping up' [so NOT aikido], put on the 'gear', and set about PRETENDING he was a 'big MMA fighter just like Tadas', until he had realised his REAL aim - to GET ATTENTION by FAILING, so that the only way is then, 'UP' - by riding all the way on the back of a sensationalist claim that 'Aikido FAILS', sucking up all the energy of people 'piling on' to criticize or defend aikido - JUST like ALL the regular little 'shadow beings' do to humans all the time ... THAT'S why he IS a FAKE - as a person, before anything to do with his martial art ability (or clear LACK thereof).
But, back to 'his' Aikido : NO shizentai, NO zanshin or mushin, NO NOT-being there when the attack comes, NO 'unliftable body' [ - merely a basic grounding exercise/technique for those who don't know, and a LUDICROUS reversal of aikido's technical basis, by attempting to use what are timing-based DEFENSES as UNTIMED, ungainly, and UNFOUNDED 'attacks' [he even PRINTS 'trying another wrist-grab ('attack')' just so we're in no doubt of this terrible technical and philosophical misinterpretation of Aikido principles, and in no doubt of the amount of 'NOISE' going on in his head - NO Aikido MIND there ! Cheers for helpin' keep this discussion grounded Bialy - all the best with the Ai-ki-way my friend.
I love how humble the MMA guy is. Not trying to boast off or destroy the inexperienced guy just to boost his own ego, but to genuinely teach the aikido guy.
Yeah he's like matter of fact. He was very good
Other traditional martial arts practitioners gets frustrated when getting ass kicked. But much respect to this guys. His humility will bring him on top.
I love it how honest this guy was. I have so much respect for him. He's a true example of the integrity that aikido philosophy I believe intends to preach.
Very cool, admirable experiment!
+fightTIPS Thanks
I bet if you gain more experience against MMA or fighters in sparring matches that go full tilt, and become accustomed to someone really attacking you the art will get batter and may even transform. You can practice a discipline all of your life and still get your ass handed to you in a real fight if the opponent has a lot of real fighting experience. So keep doing things like this as much as possible and don't be afraid to get hit and then you can take those techniques you learned and use them effectively irl in many different situations. Everyone knows that if you learn something it is almost useless until it is used practically. I would love more videos on this and would love to see your progress as a fighter. I don't mean you need to compete but going into sparring like this irl will only make you better. Every master knows that they never truly are done learning.
fightTIPS eyyyyy Shane mah man.
fightTIPS oh shit fight tips
And the experiment? To try something that never happens on the street. Show me a street with a boxing ring in the middle of it. Point is that in Aikido we can roll...but not in a ring. Similarly, show me someone on the street wearing boxing gloves. Point is that in Aikido you grab the hand or arm...not a large boxing glove. Also, this guy does not represent all Aikidoists but rather a very naive guy who has been treated with kid gloves...shock of shocks, he isn't ready for anything.
Wow. I think this is the ONLY honest Aikido practicioner I've seen. Respect man.
Proud, honesty is the best and ur a great martial artist
Thank you!
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Gotta give resoect to both people here! First to the Aikidoka for being humble enough to not only try and risk RUclips comments, but his honesty as well. Second to the MMA gentleman who not only didn't find it neccessary to destroy and humiliate the Aikido practitioner, but to also reach out with tips and pointers. We can learn something from both of these gents! Well done guys!!
Thanks. I really feel too that Tada's (MMA person) did a great job.
AikidoSiauliai Do u have a link or channel for the mma guy?
great comment sir
Peter Ferguson Absolutely on point! Real Gentleman on display.
Risk RUclips comments 😂 What a risk
Wow! He's the real man. Accepting the opponent's martial arts as a better one takes a lot of humbleness and sportsmanship. We need more people like him.
No, what you should say is, WE need to BE like him.
@@yrvjutrtubxsyi we also need to be like him. 👍🏻
@@fallahkhan3483 The thing is MMA pretty much has to be the most effective form of unarmed one on one combat by definition since its the least limited one. Sure its not completely without rules but as far as combat sports go its without a doubt the closest thing to simulating a real fighting situation against another highly trained individual we have. And therefor naturally the most effective techinques and aproaches under these cicumstances within the ruleset will prevail. Just like BJJ did for example. A pure striker probably still has the upper hand to a pure grappler but as soon as highly skilled BJJ practicioners started to understand the basics of stand up fighting, how to defend punches and how to take the fight to the ground, pure strikers and brawler were completely powerless against it and therefor had to adept. Now while still often specializing in one area, every MMA fighter has to at least understand the basics of multible combat sports to compete since it proved crucial to not know certain things. Pure BJJ blackbelt without standup will be knocked out with ease by a trained MT fighter. World class kickboxer without grappling will be put to sleep in a min or two by an experienced wrestler with solid groundgame. So if Akaido did work against other fighters under these circumstances we would at least occasionaly see some of its techinques beeing used in MMA like we do for example with judo tkd or karate. While not dominating the sport all these combat arts still have their place within professional MMA and therefor proved to at least situationaly work in real fights.
So since we didnt see any Akido master/fighter successfully take and adapt his techniques to the sport of mixed matial arts, where by definition every matial art is allowed as long as it works, we can asume one od two things.
Either no skilled eneugh Akido particioner has made it work yet which theoretically is totaly possible. MMA keeps evolving so we for sure havent seen it all yet and new aspekts keep being implemented. Or, whats way more likely in my opinion, it just doesnt reliably work against real fighters in a real fight. But a few years ago TKD was also being called useless until people got spinning back kicked the shit out of them and had to accept that some of its techniques might not be that useless after all.
I have immense appreciation for this man. He accepted change, which speaks for his enormous spirit.
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What stands out here is the humility of two martial artists. Thank you.
Thank you for pointing this out! You're absolutely right.
Great observation, man!
Syclone PK yeah he is. Would he be effective in Mma. Absolutely not. But it is still technically a martial art.
gtarluva
idk how i got lost in this part of youtube. but from my outsider perspective. some martial arts are there merely to defend and others to actually attack.
what stands out here is that aikido is sensless if a real fight breaks out!
I came here expecting it to be a hype video for akido where you’d take someone who didn’t know shit about mma or just stage it. I was pleasantly surprised and I have to say that I respect what you did a lot. You were humble the whole time and kept it real. You didn’t make excuses and it took a lot of balls for you to do all this, well done!
I have WAAAY more respect for you, for being honest and honorable, than I do for all the fakers I see on RUclips. Kudos.
This channel helped me to re evaluate my 22 years of martial arts. 22 years of experience, and Taekwondo and a few others being very applicable, but you certainly helped me with stopping my Aikido practice. I now attend an SBG gym. Used to have such the wrong impression of MMA. Thanks man
Nice! Really glad to know this!
I have tremendous respect for this Aikido instructor for showing all the deficiencies in Aikido even though he has praxticed it for 13 years. I'm sure this demonstration will help him to cross train into something that will actually help him from getting hurt.
Hope this video will stop Steven seagull from acting like a champ.
@@gerardvoughnfaust4167 No, it won't. Seagall is too pompous and into himself to say anyone can beat him. As far as he is concerned, Seagall thinks he will beat anybody he faces. 🙄
Need to relax and resond faster
there are no deficiencies, Aikido I believe was meant for if someone grabs you or pushes you. I used to work out with a Hapkido master. I wish I would have practiced more with it .It can be very useful.
@@cat-lw6kq Aikido used to be bayonet fighting in the 1930s, when the amys invaded japan, they didn't allow any kind of martial art that involved weapons, that's how aikido lost it's soul
Nowadays, it's a great sport to understand movement, body placement, forces opposition etc.
Aikido may evolve to become more effective if there were more practitioners like you contributing
100%! Much like other arts, I'm certain there are viable techniques in Aikido that could be brought to MMA, but you have to train with resistance to figure those out.
Aikido will never become effective, unless it is trained with resistance but then 99% of techniques will go out of the window.
Hiro It's the other way around; Aikido is jutated from Judo.
@@gttechlife Aikido is only effective if someone's using a knife.... That is the reason it was formed. As a fighting style it sucks, there is other arts out there that pretty much cover grapples and submissions more effectively.
@@lorkhan8565 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU THINK AIKIDO CAN DEFEND AGAINST A KNIFE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
:D The MMA dude lifts him up and then lowers him to the ground like a newly wed bride. Makes me chuckle. This MMA dude really is super nice.
Vlatko Šurlan best shit I’ve seen today lmao
Well, it wasn't a fight fight. It was more of a demonstration type thing. Once he got lifted up, the point was made, no need to actually hurt the guy. Shows the MMA dude's professionalism.
Because he knows he has the ability to f him up, but opts not to. The presenter is quite likeable, he wasted 13 years on a fake martial art, on some level he knew that going in. Any honourable MMA fighter would have given him the same treatment.
@DJ BLACKWHOLE Then don't put it on the same level as a martial discipline. Instead, teach and proclaim it to be something like yoga or old-people taichi.
@DJ BLACKWHOLE aikido is an excellent art in clenches, grabs, and closer ranges. Long range it is not very good simply because they do not practice much striking.
MUCH respect for putting yourself out there with honesty, integrity and a humble willingness to learn.
I have been an Aikido practitioner for over 12 years and achieved a black belt at 17. I can say this with 100% confidence: it is an extremely incomplete martial art. In the dojo, we are learned to counter moves we anticipate, moves in a certain direction/style, moves that will 99% of the time never come to you in real combat like a silver spoon. I have taken Jeet Kune Do for two years and boxing for four to realize the importance of positioning and more practical counters, footwork, and interception. I believe Aikido only shines when you position yourself in a position that limits the range/options of the opponents attack. In a street fight, if your first choice of defense is to rely on an Aikido move, get ready to kiss the floor.
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Uyeshiba sensei, Tohei and Shioda sensei were effective in real fights. However, they had extensive experience and training in other arts.
@@mikedasilva5239 i can't speak for the others but Ueshiba sensei, who my grandmaster was one of the earliest pupils of, derived Aikido from traditional Jyujutsu after the Russo Japanese War. Jyujutsu is a martial art meant for hand-to-hand combat in war time. I think Aikido was meant to evolve Jyujutsu theory but practically speaking it's not easy to do.
@@MadPianoLife In his old age, Uyeshiba sensei became spiritual and his Aikido became soft, circular and artistic. His Aikido lost the combat efficiency of earlier times. As an old master, he was not required to accept challenges.
You sir, are a true martial artist. I respect what you did so much. The issue many people from the Grappling/BJJ/MMA community have with many practitioners of more traditional styles is that so few will do what you did in this video, yet they will debate and claim why their style would work against a grappler or MMA fighter. They will talk theory all day but not test it live. You have set an amazing example not just for those types, but for ANYONE who is doing any style of martial arts. The quest for knowledge, improvement, truth, testing yourself, stepping out of your comfort zone and growing is what it is all about. Nothing but respect for you man!
Couldn't agree more. I started to type a similar response but this says it all.
love your podcast man, keep it up bebe
Thome90, Thank you my friend! I really appreciate that!
Are you serious? This guy has 13 years of Aikido and he couldn't manage a single aikido technique. He's a dance master, not a marital artist.
Agreed. Hes a dancer. And i doubt he is practicing authentic aikido. Real aikido has strikes. Just likes japanese jiujitsu which it comes from. The founder of aikido himself said aikido should be 85 percent striking 15 percent locks. The atemi aka strikes create the environment for the locks. Id love to see a yoshinkan aikidoka in mma or. Someone who practices old school. Cuz prrsonally, though i dont practice aikido i have studied how it works and i can pull off a good amount of it in the ring. But i practice full contact mma regularly. So yeah. This guy needs to do some good sparring. Maybe he will be able to usebhisnsills then. And trybwith mma gloves. The boxing gloves made it harder. Also not going full speed makes aikido useless cuz there is no energy from your opponent to manipulate. So its harder to off ballance and twist etc.
I love how there is no ego here. What a great video. So different the X smashes Y ones I've grown accustomed to. Two classy martial artists comparing notes in a respectful and honest way. I love it!!
there is nothing martial about aikido, its just weeaboo dancing
@@cc1drt
Do you know what "martial" means?
Respect dude! It's so refreshing to see you be open minded about your own discipline. This is 100% gonna make you an even better martial artist.
Thanks
Hey brother, that took a LOT of balls! My respects to you! I started traditional arts in 1981, then after my first MMA fight, getting wiped out by a Muay Thai fighter in 1993, I tried to forget everything I’d learned from Karate, and switched to train under the Muay Thai fighter that kicked my ass, then finding BJJ in 1995. Never looked back. What you did, putting yourself and your style out there like that took a LOT of courage, and I wanted to be an old man who’s survived nearly 40 years and going strong in the arts, to salute you for taking that risk.
I hope that it expands your world in whatever ways you’re hoping for.
It actually took a lot of what we call, GALL - not 'balls'. Your experience with Karate has NO bearing on the fact that this guy NEVER understood ['stood-UNDER-the -PRINCIPLES-of] HIS chosen art, Aikido.
In other words, his whole presentation here is IRRELEVANT to those who DO understand and CAN apply aikido. You should try to NARROW down this guy's world, he's already 'expanding' it with WAY too much AIR. If you want to enrich your OWN journey, give the attention to REAL aikido practitioners who DO address the faults commonly criticized regarding the training methodologies of many aikido schools, and who prove that there IS validity to it, even if as PART of a training LIFE. All the best with YOUR journey bro, just take care that you're not being fooled by false 'humility' and fake 'honesty'.
@@jazzwarrior7206 sure thing chief. Aikido sucks regardless.
@@jazzwarrior7206 aikido doesn’t work. Again, Aikido DOES NOT WORK! You sound like a democrat talking about communism.
I gave this video a like not because I like aikido or think it's effective, but beacuse I like how humble and sincere that was to just go out and test your skill against a good fighter. Kudos for that.
This dude should try a crowdfunding or whatever name and we could see his progress all the way until he is able to adapt aikido to the ringfights.
Catchjitsu has done it, if you're looking for pioneers.
Search "Catchjitsu Aikido" on youtube.
crab man speaking as someone who trains Aikido and BJJ every week
trying to adapt aikido to the ring will erode what the art does correctly, and is a wrong turn
People because of the mma hype try to shame everything that is not related to the 3 populars styles there.
Catchjitsu is not so old, it's a waste he won't take parts in the circuits.
To me, the biggest issue about mma and ufc is that the rules favor too much brazilian jiu jitsu for example.
It may be shameful, but I'd like the revival of the old ufc where there was almost no rules, I know it's not safe and deaths could occur easily but at least it should exist legally.
In most countries for random fighting and even selfdefense you can get sent in prison for a long time on worst cases.
Martial artists that want to challenge themselves don't want to be forced to go to battlefields or undergrounds fights where dopping is a common thing.
In history, martial arts were meant for survival and used in wars before guns appeared, it should not be lost in tradiational forms or sports.
I'm not saying a martial art must become corrupted and diluted like WTF taekwondo (olympic circus)or the taichiqan with the martial arts material totally skippedby 99/100 teachers, but a "sports"branch should appear to not fall behind the "trends" of an era.
crab man if MMA favored BJJ then refs wouldn't stand fighters up all the time.
2 years on and still mad respect for this experiment. I had some similar experience with testing and eventually leaving Wing Chun.
I genuinely felt I could fight, then I walked into a Muay Thai gym to spar. I now walk into that gym at least 2 times a week.
Unless you've done it, there's nothing like having a false sense of confidence fall apart as it feels like your legs are going to 😅.
No matter what you do, what you've done. You're a brave guy, without people like you that are willing to test Traditional Martial Arts they will never progess. I personally think it's less about technique (although it does play a part) it's more about training methods as I think this is a good example of how different training methods breed different results
The thing about Wing Chun is that it can actually be a devastating thing to add to your arsenal when you're ALREADY a good, trained martial artist. I used to love to suddenly pull some WC techniques out of my ass in the middle of kickboxing sparring, even if just to break the rhytm and be unpredictable. Aikido on the other hand... can't really see a situation in which any of this stuff would be useful in any way.
Ryszard Bizon IIRC, that's because Wing Chun is just outdated, but their techniques are originally based with actual fighting in mind. At least that's what Reddit told me.
@@illiiilli24601 there's a good video on here analysing Roberto Duran fighting on the inside. It's as good as practical Wing Chun as you'll get. A lot of Wing Chun is using close range fighting thinking it will work on the outside. A few sparring sessions in a boxing gym show that it breaks some of those absolute basic rules of reality.
Night_Walker 812 that’s wisdom. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I'm super surprised to hear someone say this concerning wing chun. I guess my instructor was kinda low tech and ghetto in his instruction. His first lesson was him with a short stick that was supposed to simulate a dagger. He poked and smacked me around for 15 minutes and asked me why I didn't run. He was a very practical man lol. Most everything he taught me was striking and foot work. He showed me all the forms but said I should learn how to get hit and hit back before even thinking about trying to use em. I'm no Bruce lee, but I learned how to handle myself pretty quick in a street fight.
Much respect to you for putting your Aikido to the test and humbly accepting that it's not as worthy a martial art as you had been led to believe. As a former martial art practitioner myself I had a similar phenomenon training with BJJ experts after doing Tae Kwon Do for 3 years and getting my ass kicked so I know the feeling!
Tae Kwon Do is still useful for developing kicking flexibility which can go a long way. But yea if youre using pure Tae Kwon Do someone is gonna take you down if theyre allowed to.
This is one of the best and insightful video about the seemingly "untouchable" subject. Thank you for the effort and analysis!
Explain yourself.
I agree... Now I'm doubting this guy... I'm also a practitioner and I have done a bunch of sparring with MMA guy's definitely bigger than me and even found it easy... And all the techniques I learned from my master actually work against this types of fighters. The only thing that matter is don't try to remember the technique that you want to use just let it flow to you. And apply it effectively and try to use the more effective techniques. And if that guy really trains in aikido, he really needs more practice. Especially his focus this guy really lacks focus especially when fighting. Have you tried entering the flow state during battle?? or have you ever tried actual combat not sparring but a real fight??? probably not. Try to have harsher and more aggressive randori with attackers that will really try to kill you and with guys who knows different martial arts like karate, boxing, muay thai, taekwondo etc, and put guy's with weapons such as knives, sticks and bolos. That will probably enhanace your skill. That's how we practice and do Randori at our dojo. We invite different martial artist and have a fight with them and have harsh randori's. You've got more training to do. It's not that aikido didn't work its just that you don't know how to use it yet.
video! video! video!
Oh, show us!
Show some of your sparring or live drills!
Or someone else doing it!
Oh, show us!
Show some of your sparring or live drills!
Or someone else doing it!
Respect to this guy for putting himself in the fire and his ego/rep on the line.
Note: To ANYONE who says "this isn't a real aikido instructor" or that he's "doing the techniques all wrong" - Please post a youtube video of yourself in a no rules no time limit fight with an MMA fighter and we would all be happy to see it. If you're just going to sit behind your computer and talk shit stfu
Hi Wade - I actually made the exact same statement some time ago and the next thing ya know , some dork is trying to pick a fight with me- of course no vid of him doing what you and I asked for never came about -hmmmmmm- keyboard Ninja?
It's really disrespectful to question a guy's technique and his credentials when he put himself out there and actually tried it. Sure some of the aikido techniques are effective, but the majority of it doesn't work against a resisting opponent. If you train ANY martial art that doesn't practice live sparring against a resisting opponent (not just aikido) - you're going to have an unrealistic expectation of how things are going to go.
I like to think of it like a spinning backfist. Any boxer will tell you don't turn your back in a fight. But, given the right circumstances, it COULD work. We live in a day and age where anyone who isn't super-eclectic with it should most definitely be learning all there is to know about their chosen tradition, so that knowledge is expounded upon, rather than lost
I really wish there were more realistic videos in regards to fighting like this. No ego. No pride. Just an honest legitimate assessment of a style put to the test. Thank you for the humble video!
Thank you!
Just watch UFC 1.
Respect for being humble enough to accept that what he does not work against a trained fighter..
Oss. Lot's of respect. Not many people will go out of their comfort zone and with such honesty. I have done many Martial Arts in the past but since 2004 I have been sticking to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I have tried Aikido, it is a very beautiful, elegant and difficult martial art to master. As for training, as long as you are having fun, it doesn't matter what you are learning.
Akido needs this. Put it to the test so it can evolve. Too many people with egos are afraid to do what you did. Respect.
Take your 13 years of Aikido training, combine it with real fighting experience and take Aikido to the next level. Very humbled dudes. Kudos to both.
@@highviewseeker5415 There are aspects of Aikido that can help in other martial arts.
@@highviewseeker5415 Not really. In a street fight people are usually not that experienced. Knowing simple defensive techniques that are easy to perform and combine it with decent street smarts and ur set against mostly all street fighters. Honestly all those flashy techniques wont help u and aikido basic techniques will go along way.
@@anthonyargueta131 tell that to my buddy who thought he was could defend against a knife because of aikido an got himself stabbed
@@Mkvs68 no offense man and sorry for what happened to your friend also but if someone has a knife pull on you, you shouldn't engage em even if u know MAA. A person with a knife will win everytime unless ur someone who spares all the time and is a professional. You can blame Aikido but it's more like its the guys fault who pulled a knife because its rare for someone to even do any technique in any intense like that.
@@anthonyargueta131 what I'm tryna say is a lot of people have got hurt because of these fake teachings that don't really work in real life situations
Tadas is such a nice guy. Respect for you giving this an honest test.
Great video! I've done aikido for about 5 years many years ago, when I was younger.. In my experience I'd say that aikido is maybe something like martial art movement discipline. Whoever says aikido would work against skilled boxer or bjj practitioner is delusional, chances are minimal. But those who say aikido is worthless, simply do not understand it. Don't know about it's origins, purpose, what basis it was created upon. I'd dare to say that many aikido school don't know themselves and try to create some badass image about it, hyped by Steven Seagal movies. His direction of aikido is not really appreciated in Europe where many school follow traditional, original version, not the Hollywood version of it. I did a bit of muay thai (before becoming a dadbot, lol) which gave me great insight. Aikido taught me a lot regarding timing, balance, reflexes, stance, body movement awareness etc. Some fundamentals which I really appreciate. I'd love to start some martial art, but this time it would be either continuing on muay thai or other striking MAs, or try bjj.
RESPECT my friend! No egos! You guys were awesome
0 Ego , both guys . Great video, i really admire the Aikido practicioner stepping out of his comfort zone. Keep it up, i just subscribed and i am glad i found this channel.
this cousin of mine, a former security personnel for a bank, told me about their training in Aikido and how he can easily escape from getting caught from behind... i told him i watch UFC a lot but never trained, so he wanted to demonstrate to me how he will escape in such a situation, so i took his back and gave him a RNC with some hooks on the leg... he couldnt escape and was fuming mad and told me to let go... LOL..
Maybe the choke he learned wasen't the one used in the UFC or he didn't train with resistance.
@@orangeman9237 thats mean Aikido is bulshit
@D core Stupid like your... what? Man bun? The man bun is only worn by superior fighting men. The bun is unbeatable. This was clearly staged...
@D core I would probably agree with you are opinion but I don't understand. Sorry.
To be fair it’s basically impossible to escape from a locked in rear naked choke with a body lock
Still after so many years I have so much respect for you. For your humility and your bravery and not hiding away, just a constant search for knowledge. I always try to stay on that path.
I applaud you for having the guts to put yourself to a "REAL" test. I don't believe even a better Akidoist would have been any more successful. It is what it is.
Thanks
I am not an aikidoist as you say but how is this a real test? This is a ring, there following rules, there are no weapons involved, not potential threat of others joining in the fight. It's a sport fight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking sport fighting. It holds more self defense value than most but let's keep it real, it's not fully equipped for the realities of life and death conflict. Combat and sport are two words that have no place together.
John Savaria
How the fuck is MMA not a combat sport? You think aikido is going to help you in a "real fight" more than ACTUALLY fighting? You're brainless, mate
Your entire comment is all over the place. No direction, no structure. What point are you even trying to make?
I never said that aikido is a fighting art. it's not and was never supposed to be. People train in martial arts for many reasons not all of them for fighting. Combat and sport are two words that have no place together. I am not saying that MMA is bad or does not have a sound self defense value, but there is nothing combative about it. People toss around the word combat way to loosely. MMA is a great supplement to combat arts but not exclusively combat. You can't expect a one on one encounter, without weapons, following rules, a referee and mat in a life and death encounter. Standing in the static zone exchanging blows has limitations, and going to the ground can be suicide. Definitely pays to have that knowledge but immediately being able to drop and immobilize the threat is vital for military, law enforcement and general citizens in a street attack. It's not as exciting to watch as sport fighting but it's not supposed to be.
what
MMA tournaments & UFC are not combat. Sparing is not combat.
There are no rules, referees, or time outs, in combat... & tapping out means you are dead.
Combat is a life & death fight.
Roman gladiator tournaments were combat. War is combat.
Learn the difference instead of resorting to strawman arguments.
Both of you displayed the very best part of martial arts, showing good judgment and integrity in a situation that could have easily become quite hostile.
Yepp...No sparring-no feeling for fight...You have realistic and honorable approach and that deserves BIG RESPECT.
Keep up with great work.
Grettings from Croatia.
Mario.
desi gabudee
Sparring is in sport and there is as much real "fight" in sparrings as there is in chess match. The difference is that chess players dont put "Martial Arts" in the name to trick people into thinking that they are watching martial art not a sport.
I respect how he's making zero excuses and taking the MMA fighter's criticisms to better himself.
Respect!
Voce por aqui
Are you still alive? @Pedro Amaral
voce aqui, virou comentador, ta em todo lugar hahahaha, gostava muito dos seus videos de parkour
I love your honesty and dignity man. Total respect for you! That was a great video. Thanks.
Thank you!
thank you man, such a nice and real video with such genuine kool people...this is what arts and sports are all about
Thanks
Aikido is a waste of time, this video literally tells you that. I'm sure aikido has history and is very interesting to learn, but let's face it, people want to be confident and tough especially the freaks and physcopaths what walk our streets today, and the skirts you have to wear.......just says it all.
I wonder , defense is the total show in martial arts , not offensive fighting , a defensive fighter allows the offensive fighter to make the mistakes .
madmar 2612 not a wast of time by no means. You have to remember in MMA it’s a study of all martial arts,not just one. Put a guy in there with a Karate only background and it would be that same result.
I cannot say enough how much I respect your humility. Good stuff bro!
Thank you 🙏
I had to watch this again. Great video and major respect for both Martial Artists. This video could potentially save an Aikido practitioner from being seriously injured in a fight against a Mixed Martial Artist.
There is an unbelievable amount of people out there who think that their Martial Art is superior or at least on par with Mixed Martial Artist training and that could really wind up getting those people who believe that hurt AND that does not just go for Aikido practitioners either. It goes for all disciplines.
However, at least this Aikido Instructor made a very real video showing the honest truth when it comes to real fighting. Again, major respect for this man and the Mixed Martial Martist.
In closing the Aikido Instructor is absolutely correct in saying that Aikido could help and potentially be very effective against average joes on the street because not everyone is a seasoned "fighter".
So its not like Aikido is "useless" when it comes to defending yourself using it in a fight against an average person. Thank you for your humbleness sir!
Key here you mentioned is that a fight against the average person! people have to realize that with all these x vs. y type settings. agreed with your assesment.
I believe Aikido would become more useful if one is trained in the ring, in sparring, and in at least basic MMA defense and basic MMA techniques. I believe a lot of these TMA can become more useful if the right training and experience is added to it.
No a trained MMA fighter would quickly learn that Akido is totally worthless, and discard it.
It's good to learn a hard and soft style. Aikido may fill the soft style category quite well. MMA is MIXED, meaning they train grappling as well as striking. What we saw here was a practitioner that knew both sides of the coin set against a practitioner of only one side.
So, while I respect you, and agree with you for the most part, can you explain to me when aikido would EVER have to test itself against MMA?
I can't see an aikido practitioner attacking anybody for no reason, are you suggesting that MMA fighters would do that?
When you're building a house and you put the plumbing in, you don't immediately build the walls around the pipes; you charge the lines with water and see where the leaks are (and there always are leaks). You fix them, then you build the walls. You've taken your martial art out into the world to see where the leaks are and I totally respect you for it.
I always thouth you build foundations first, then the walls, then follow up with plumbing, electrics and finally decorating and furnishing????
As a licensed plumber I gotta say, you must be a pretty shitty plumber if you ALWAYS have leaks in a wall
Respectfully, entertainment value aside, you two (UKrissy and Triioop) miss the point of this comment by Dard. He's offering a PHILOSOPHY for a lay person (one watching this video, about martial arts, not about DIY plumbing), not a METHODOLOGY for someone who's building a house and doing the plumbing. I for one find what Dard said a good point, something that would belong on a bumper sticker, if only it'd fit. What he's saying is that one ought to guess AND check, not just guess. And that wisdom, well-said, is precisely what the host of this video is doing (not saying, just actually doing). You two, your comments are cleaver, yet out of place and unhelpful (I'm sorry). Dard, while I have a lot to say to the gentleman who hosted this video but haven't yet exactly worked out what that is, I just want to say to you, your succinct analogy hits home with me and gives me a lot to think about in my own professional life which I may now try viewing from a different and more positive angle given the true substance behind what you wrote here. I just want you to know someone out here in the chaos of RUclips appreciates your contribution (and again, I mean no offense to the two viewers who already offered their witty comments).
@@robertdlithgow thanks! 🙌
Certainly is HIS martial art, not Morihei Ueshiba's that's for sure. The flooding that you call 'leaks' is all his own doing, not aikido's. Your sentiment is well meant, but Rokas doesn't deserve it here.
So this is a PRIME example of something that is woefully inadequate in many "traditional" martial arts schools. That is the lack of full contact sparring. You can drill technique and hit pads for 15 years but until you face someone who is actively trying to attack/resist you you will have no clue what to do. You could even train MMA for years not sparring, and the minute you get into the ring with someone even going 60% your skills will revert right back to that first day you stepped in the gym. Getting hit is scary, it hurts, it is frustrating and it is disorienting/confusing especially at first. When you spar consistantly you will learn how to take punches and how to avoid panic and flinching, you gain confidence to implement defensive techniques with a clear head and how to begin weaving your own strategies. I would be FAR more scared of getting to a fight with some untrained guy who gets in a lot of bar fights vs a karate master of 30 years who has never even sparred full contact because the street fighter is not going to panic when you attack him . I was an amateur boxer when in my late teens and early 20s and also did some mma and muay thai. It takes along time even sparring 3-4 times a week to get to the point where you feel somewhat comfortable in the ring against another trained fighter. Getting hit SUCKS, you just have to learn the techniques to ignore the pain and fear to be able to function effectively. And in the end, not everyone can do it and they quickly learn that actually fighting isn't for them and they either quit or just train for fun. Great video
Is it even possible to condition yourself to get hit in the solar plexus? When my guard is weak, I usually get hit there.
Yeah you will never learn to fight if you don't fight
Agree 💯 percent learning how to fight means you have to fight period
Jay you are absolutely right. It’s true in other high contact sports as well. Track guys can come play WR or CB and run routes or coverages on the practice field. But you’re not a football player until you get hit or deliver a hit. Then it gets real. I love that the Aikido artist was not delusional and knew going in that this was going to be different than any of his previous 13 years of Aikido. That humility made it easy for the MMA fighter to be gracious and helpful. The Aikido artist showed honest respect to the fighter and the fighter showed respect back and was willing to teach. Great video.
MrSucc i believe that the solar plexus is one of those parts of the body that you can't train to become more resistant , just like getting hit in your balls or your jaw.
Fantastic display of control from the MMA fighter, excellent attitude of humility and a desire to learn from the Aikido practitioner. Great sparring session, great video.
3:51 Oh my goodness this is such a sweet moment. What a considerate sparring partner.
Edit: Also, mad respect to the uploader for doing this and actually seeking reality in a way that more traditional martial artists should
Uhm maybe they're gay?
Jesmar Rex he’s talking when he got the take down and had him lifted in the air he could of slammed him into the ring but he let him down easy
@@jesmarrex3006 just because youre gay dont assume everyones gay
Much respect.
I began training with an MMA coach after 17 years in Chinese and FMA when my priorities shifted from art to self defence.
The reality check was a bitter pill to swallow - I was able to transfer over much less than I imagined.
I saw the same pain in your expressions here - kudos for bearing it with such grace.
I trained aikido for a few years and now do MMA, and in certain situations there are things you can use from the former to the latter, but most of the time? No. Great video, it's good to see someone who let's go of ego and looks at it unbiased.
Exactly.
Aikido seems to rely too much on using the opponent's strength against them. Leveraging their bodies in order to do the flips and joint locks. Which is great against someone who isn't expecting it and who isn't used to fighting. But in the ring, it loses all it's effectiveness because the opponent is expecting the grabs, and therefore reacting accordingly. That's my take on it at least.. As a martial arts enthusiast.
4xdblack yeah, I agree.
It looks like a ton of fun though.
In the old times it was effective in japanese medieval fights vs armored enmies soldiers but it was not the modern newly created aikido at this time.
Remember that the ninjutsu gave birth "somehow" to japanese jiu jutsu, judo, and karate.
I give this man all the credit in the world for opening himself up to this. It takes a big person to be willing to put themself in a position that proves that something they've spent so much time perfecting is basically useless in a real fight situation. I'm guessing the he has grown significantly because of this experience.
Thank you SO much for this video. It's obvious that it took a lot of humbleness, honesty, transparency, and ego-neutralization to go for something like this, and be so graceful and honest about it. Our martial-arts world really needs more demonstrations and videos like this. And this is independent of the level of the traditional martial artist to begin with! Like, I really don't care what anyone has to say about your mastery of Aikido, for example; I just don't care. It's enough to know that you've been a practitioner for 13 years and an instructor for 5, and make an informed decision based on it. And frankly, this video doesn't even make you or Aikido look bad, at least in [my] eyes. How come? Well, you already said that there's no competition in Aikido; that alone conveys mountains of meanings when pitting an Aikido practitioner against an MMA fighter. Moreover, perhaps Aikido itself, as an art, can be readjusted a little to produce an evolved version of it that can make it practical and applicable in the MMA ring, kind of in a similar manner to how Bruce Lee thought about several martial arts and what he did to them.
It's very clear that Aikido doesn't work in these kind of situations (as in this video). But in a real street confrontation, it's better to have Aikido than to have nothing!
"seek and you will find....and do everything in love"-- The Holy Bible
a very very great comment.
You are a hero for the the evolution of Aikido, all martial arts and especially honesty. Time the break the bubble, I guess.
love the respectful way this is treated.
Much respect to the Aikido gentleman for being so honest in this situation.
You have to respect this guy as It's guys like this who push their TMA on and improve it through evolving it. Pressure testing and seeing what's effective and what's not in different situation.
Mad respect for the akido fighter. He wanted to experience MMA first hand and whether or not he would be able to handle it with his Akido.
Commendable for the Aikido man to give it a go. Commendable fo the MMA guy not to get carried away and punch his lights out.
SO true, the MMA guy was a really good sport and did not take advantage of 13 years of learning an art form never intended for a street fight type of situation
@Tony Teresi in sparring it's actually kind of hard to find a middle ground between knocking people out and having your hits do nothing
i have mad respect for your honesty man, i was practising aikido for 2 years and i can't apply the technique on a real fight. Now i do boxing because your video enlightened me
The man who trained aikido is not weak at all. The aikido is weak and doesn't work.
@reinier van der Veer Who the fuck street fighting with a katana nigga
@reinier van der Veer mdfker we out here bang bang with gun nigga, who the fuck goes samurai jack on the street
Papa Smurf aikido was implemented as a way to disarm your opponent in battle
@@jaywilliams6250 I fucking know but this guy is talking about cutting people with a sword in a street fight dude
@@123455866201Aaron Only bitches afraid of a beating use guns.
I think where Aikido may be more useful, is WHEN you know other arts like BJJ, Muay Thai, Judo, etc. Then, you can maybe be in a better position to combo off other arts and be in a real position to utilize a few Aikido moves that could catch others off guard and be dangerous in its own way.
What I find interesting is, Morihei Ueshiba was already an experienced martial artist before he even started training in Aikijujutsu. He had plenty of experience applying his skills in active sparring, and impressed a lot of skilled martial artists in his time with his abilities. But somewhere along the line, it seems like he decided he'd worked out some correct set of techniques and applications and that his students shouldn't need to practice them in sparring or combat, and that doing so would be contrary to the philosophy of the style. Most likely his own practical skills deteriorated as well as he stopped training against seriously resisting opponents.
At some point, he probably had something workable for at least some significant set of combat applications. A lot of high ranking practitioners of judo held him in high regard, and some who started training with him supposedly did so after testing their own skills against him. But it seems like he developed an approach to passing on his skills to his students which simply didn't work in terms of preparing them for actual application.
Its good to add onto Judo and bjj base. Some of the locks can be pulled off. Like a wrist lock when you got knee on belly... That's all I've ever used from aikido lmao. Learned 1 wrist lock well the idea behind it. And left to go back to bjj.
No it is not, Shut the fuck up
Well, this is kind of like saying "in fact, you CAN quench your thirst with sugar, IF you mix it with some water" ;)
Agreed.. he would have seen things in other perspective and probably much utilize his skills
Glad to see this wasn't just an Akido hype video like so many staged demonstrations.
Yeah, I expected that as well.
Yep that was not Akido hype video because there was no Aikido... the guy didnt even bother to hold Aikido stance(first thing you lern in any good Aikido dojo...). ROTFL
Any MMA gym will give you the chance of trying out your Aikido in the ring. I suggest you take your Aikido and try holding a stance against someone who knows how to fight.
"I suggest you" to google UFC rules and read it! When i did that last time i found that out of 30 things that are forbiden in UFC 15 was about Aikido... To hard thing to do for MMA fanboy? Its against your strong belief that MMA is most realistic martial art?
You know MMA is not the same thing as the UFC right? Whatever rules there are in the UFC does not govern what you practice in MMA. If you're so confident about your Aikido abilities you should test them against someone who knows how to fight, just like the guy in this video did.
Great video! I worked in a county jail for 20+ years before retiring. I began training in Aikido during my first week on the job, as that was what they taught us at work. I also received personal training on a regular basis for the first 2 years with a 9th Dan Aikika who taught me a number of techniques that comprised Iwama-style Aikido. I’ve mixed it up plenty of times with convicts during my 20+ years in jail, and based on my experience when you’re being attacked by a true hard and fast hitting thug, using Aikido techniques never entered my mind. But when dealing with a convict who is passively resistant or mildly physically resistant (e.g., doesn’t want to let you put cuffs on him), Aikido was HIGHLY effective. I effectively used countless times techniques such as Sankyo (katame waze), Ikkyo, and Kote-Gaeshi (Wrist Reversal). My personal opinion is that every law enforcement officer should train in various forms of martial arts, but learning Aikido should be mandatory training for officers.
Look up daito ryu aikijujitsu. You might like it too
He basically can only use the Aikido techniques when the partner perform exactly like the routine training. With any minor change, he is not capable of using any of those learned techniques. Sad though.
@@kwjtam Aikido does have its limitations, but as a person who has years of Aikido training and who has put it to use in corrections many times, I can honestly say that it’s definitely an effective way to escape and evade and to gain a passively resistant person’s compliance through pain-compliance techniques.
Both of you were great!!
Unbiased and true, i liked it!
Ak he sucks. And so does aikido
Roman Reigns #1 P4P King he didn't make any excuse " well back in my day..."
+ He could've just never post this
Ak he got destroyed
This MMA guy is being extremely gentle with the Aikido guy (keeping it playful).
Chandler Prince Yeah sadly, 13 years of aikido could get knocked out by 6 months boxing is a good possibility from my observation
or 0 months of boxing and just 3 beers would probably knock him out too.
respeezy give the man a break, he just learnt that he's 13 years of practice couldn't do shit against an mma practitioner who went easy
Still he is keeping his ego intact by saying that nonsense about in a real fight it would be different, he needs to fully wake up.
respeezy why does it matter to you? Does his enjoyment of aikido somehow affect your life?
Not a fan of bullshito but you my friend deff has my respect for doing what you did.
Alex Vasquez you must not be a martial artist. I’ve been training various arts since the age of 7 and what is applicable in real life situations is very extremely limited in every one of them. From bjj to boxing to karate ect. All things have real application and things that are strictly for the individual sport. This is well known by these two gentlemen and most actual martial artists
Tyrone McDonald Exactly. When I see a person bash on one type of fighting style, it makes me sad. Even within one style, they can be very different - Sport TKD vs traditional TKD, for example. For years, I only cared about karate or kung fu. I thought TKD in general was a joke, due to how bad action movies use it (I didn't know enough at the time). Then a Polish guy started a traditional TKD class, and I tried it out...it was NOT what I expected. That's when I realized every style has its merits, and its place. If you want to fight for points, TKD is going to look pretty soft and worthless. But when I trained in TKD for only self defense, it was crazy to see how much power it had. Aikido, kung fu, karate, BJJ, etc...it's all got useful stuff. But if you have to find what you want from it - health, self defense, sport?
Wow, I remember watching your Aikido videos like a decade ago and just recently got back into watching martial art RUclips videos. It’s so cool to see your first interaction with MMA and now you’re competing! So cool to see your “martial arts journey” through the years now and I wish you best of luck. I second, third, and repeat what everyone is saying, props for sharing and demonstrating humility. Keep it up! P.S. would also be kind of interesting to hear your wife’s opinion on it all!
I have to recognize you are a very honest man. To expose your martial art that way, for the sake of what is real fighting is amazing from you to do. With your understanding of movement through Aikido, I think you can appreciate better how real fighting works. Thank you a lot. Great video.
Very honest and humble, thank you for not trash talking but doing it respectfully and honourably
You deserve a ton of respect for your humility in doing this. I know far too many martial artists who wouldn't step foot in an MMA gym, or the school of another art, because their ego is to fragile to handle the reality check. Having trained in Aikido in my younger years I can appreciate the art, but the "insular" nature of training limits its potential greatly.
My absolute respect my dude, watched some of your videos on Instagram, but you doing this won me over ! Keep training and keep spreading positivity!!
Dude, I commend you on putting your art on the line, even though it failed. And also, your training partner, as he seemed to really drop his ego and go easy with no intent to injure or humiliate you. Hopefully, you might expand your aikido with some more easily applicable arts if you get the chance.
Also adds to the saying, "The greatest defense is a good offense", which Aikido by itself does not have.
honestly, let me tell you smth from personal experience. I am an aikido practitioner for ~3.5 years, and this phrase is what my Sensei told me on the very first day I came to train. After watching a lot of youtube (aikido included) I realised what the problem is. My sensei knew about this all along and then explained that there are different aikido directions, and some are better than others. In a nutshell, don't trust Aikikai Aikido (the most popular and weakest direction) which is about what choreography is, due to the history of Japan in the cities after WW2. And last but not least, it is always good to take info from other arts.
@@Luciothecommenter and Steven seagle said that he learnt aikido of tenshi aikido ..and said that after WW2 aikido remove or lethal strikes from the art too..
@@Xteaxipn Yep. It is a fact. The lethal strikes were banned in the cities, when Japan was occupied by the US.
@@Luciothecommenter brother I think that any martial arts founded for only combat..there is no such thing like useless Martial arts
@@Xteaxipn Exactly. That's why Aiki Kai isn't a martial art. It was taught as "gymnastics" so that no one got arrested.
Its incredible how doing aikido is actually worse than not even training anything. As the aikido guy tried to to aikido techniques, instead of just throwing punches like a completely untrained guy,he actually put himself in a much more perilous position
But the whole point of aikido has nothing to do with fighting.
@@jamescarr4662 Then it should stop acting like it.Aikido practicioners act like they are fighters and use the same ,,we don't fight in aikido because it can kill you" shit phrase over and over again.Then if it's not for fighting why it makes you feel like you know how to fight when it clearly won't and you will get knocked the fuck out using aikido in a street fight
@@yourmomcallsmedaddy7274 where did you hear an aikido practitioner say something like "we don't fight in aikido because it can kill you" ?? they must not have followed Aikido classes then x)
@@bassisteu We train in a gym with aikido practicioners and literally all of them have this mentality,even their teacher.
@@yourmomcallsmedaddy7274 That's kind of interesting, because I thought the whole point of Aikido was to be pacifist, and be able to stop attacks without hurting anyone. The main criticism I always heard about Aikido is that your opponent(s) can just get up and try and again, so they'll eventually get lucky. But that assumes Aikido actually works in the first place.
I'd go for Muay Thai + Freestyle Wrestling combo any day as my foundation skills.
Nice honest video
Good on this guy, he may have saved someone hundreds of hours
The art itself is a worthy endeavor. Those hundreds of hours can't be "saved" or "lost" if the person uses them to learn and to connect with the body.
bullsear wtf 😂
@@trevormaine what drugs you on?
I really respect that he owns not having the stronger style here
I would like to see a video of yours vs a MMA fighter.
He doesn't have any style, he can't fight at all!
Thank you for being humble. We love your attitude. Aikido mixed with striking might be a good tool to have in you Arsenal.
As a traditional martial artist who spars and had to overcome that "fear" of getting punched and throw the ego to the floor....I can say WELL DONE. Not many people can do what you've done and record it.
I might not agree with your conclusions...but OSS (respect) to your attitude.
And you've shown MMA guys are generally like that guys...humble and receptive.
ya people seem to think we're monsters the sport (and good coaches) doesnt allow for assholes its dangerous (like in other MA's) to train with people who are in it just to hurt you
totally in love with this video!! Amazing people! I don't know about how aikido will work in ring or real world, but I can see that practice of aikido can make you a wonderful human being!!
Thanks!
the heart of aikido is Zen, am I right??
I practice in aikido along with MMA it works as long as you know how to fight first alot of these videos are people who have never fought outside of aikido so they are clueless to real life punching an kicking Aikido is a real fighting style an does hurt like hell if applied properly but you have to be able to know when to go for a move an when not to in a real fight. Out of all martial arts I have taken I enjoy aikido the most but I also never stray from my striking arts as well you mist be well rounded
And also, this is by no means a normal fight. his opponent is a higly skilled, highly experienced fighter. so its very likely to seem ineffective against him.
Amazing video and analogy. Btw, the MMA guy told you how to apply Aikido in real life. You mentionned Combat Aikido which incorporate elements of the MMA guy advice. I have seen it in my AikiJutjitsu class and they do it in self-defense course and CloseQuarterCombat... they bring people in body armor and simulate real life situation to train the brain. I did years of aikijutjitsu loved it beyond anything but I knew it wasn't enough in the striking-cardio-street fighting element... cause you need to learn strike and take hit. In these years, I got in a few street fights... interestingly I used more Aikijutjitsu techniques in these fights than the muay thai... but muay thai contribute to living under the stress and opponent of confrontation. If you want to improve your aikido techniques in ''street life'' mode... get some striking classes (boxing,mma etc.) or do these matchup with MMA gloves and train on the tatami... Aikido helped you become a better person that's the important part. I did Aikido but it wasn't ''rough'' enough for me
Thanks to both fighters. In a MA world of fakes and BSers, a shining ray of honesty and humility!