I have 2021 xc 850 I was wondering about 100 pound spring for the front of my sled. Would I have to re valve them. Also do you happen to know the Polaris part number. Thanks so much videos are great keep up the good work.
You would not “need” to revalve them but we do recommend re valving the shocks to get the best ultimate ride. I do not have the part number off the top of my head but give south side sales in north adams mass a call and they can get you all set up.
So, are the Velocity shocks just slightly better than the Fox shocks for aggressive trail riding? After watching the video, it seems like the Velocity shocks are not that big of a deal. Maybe a litter more adjustable, but what does that really matter for the average trail rider? Thoughts?
they are more adjustable. Many of them have a bigger body and bigger shaft so a little stronger. but the fox is a great shock. for average trail rider these will be great. and can always valve them down the road
Hey Jesse I got a question about belt defection on my 2023 Vr1 boost. Do you have to adjust it.? Mine came with adjustment screw in secondary but my buddy got a 23 assault boost and it came with no adjustment screw. Not sure why they be different. When we got them last season his was in a couple months before mine so thinking may have changed something up.
some had adjustment bolts put in and some did not. 23 Boost sleds had a Creep issue because the belt was too wide for the primary clutch. so some dealers added a deflection bolt to loosen the belt tension (not the right thing to do). so you can loosen or take your bolt right out. hope that makes sense
Bruce mentions a "Mountain Mid" windshield but I can't find that online. Is he referring to Matryx RMK Low Dark Smoke Windshield Item #: 2889405 ? or something else?
Hi Jesse! I just purchased a leftover 650 23 adventure from my local dealer. I love all your videos and will definitely come see you when it’s time for a rebuild. Hygear kit may be in order! In the meantime I’m 240 without gear and am a semi aggressive rider. Would be curious on what clicker setting on the fox and if you think HD or trap for me? Thanks!
@@JESSEJAMES322 thank you! Pumped. I believe only the x2 comes with the trap in 2023, but regular adventure comes with stock spring. I will confirm before ordering, but I’m guessing you recommend the HD over trap for me if I do have to upgrade? Yes Hygear at first rebuild!
So that sled has the HD spring but depending on how big you are you may need more. We highly recommend revalving your suspension also. Easiest way to talk to me about what is needed is Facebook. Shoot me a message
Guys, just picked up a 129 850 xc. Im 5'6 190 and pretty aggressive. Id love to get to the best set up as quickly as possible. Its got a 1.35 cobra. Im gonna run two picks per lug per you recommendation. Im starting with 6 inches of carbide up front. Im going 2 inch rsi riser and heavy duty rear springs probably set on the lightest setting. I usually set the coupling blocks to keep the front end on the ground. Im also adding a set of floods. Anything other recommendations or settings a starting point? I truly appreciate your videos and insights. Great job!
Congrats on the new sled. I would like to see you run a set of 100 pound front springs. They make a huge difference with sled attitude and keeping the front up from dropping. Also if you wanna keep the front end on the ground I recommend pulling (shortening the limiter strap) shoot me a message on Facebook with any questions. That’s the easiest place to talk with me! Bit happy to help either way!
Thank you. I used to pull the limiter in on all of my old school sleds, but I haven't needed to do it on anything newer. It will definitely be on my mind. Never done front springs. I'll keep that in mind as well.
Need some guidance on picking a new sled Looking for a great trail sled but also a good all around sled XCR VR1 XC?? Last sled I owned was 20 years ago, F7 Looks to me like Polaris is the front runners lately, help a guy out
Really comes down to what youre looking for. those 3 you mentioned are all very similar. as stated in this video theyre the exact same chassis with different components. what kind of rider are you? what kind of ridinga re you doing?
So I went to snowcheck an Indy because I wanted a 129. I was told by multiple dealerships that you can’t get an Indy with the 7S from the factory, you’d have to buy it after . Was that true? I ended getting a 23 VR1-1 that was a snowcheck some one walked away from. I got it during the 24 snowcheck so I got it with the 3 year warranty. Is the walker Evans a noticeable better ride than the Fox? Also my 2010 Rush did not have the nicer gauge , that multi colored fat number gauge came in 2015 Axyss I believe, my 2015 Pro S. Thanks
The XCR is different though than the straight up Indy. Multiple dealers in Maine told me the same thing. Thank you, it’s too late now. I got what I want essentially anyway
@@joeleaton607 I think my reply was blocked, the XCR is different than the Indy with options I believe I was told that was possible, multiple dealers in Maine told me the same thing, I got close to what I wanted anyway thanks
Hey Jesse different topic I watched your video about jackshaft bearings in your opinion should I get the updated carrier I have a 2020 xc 137 almost no grease in it at 600 miles repacked bearing now I have 1200 miles with no grease loss, maybe polaris just uses very little grease I am just nervous it’s going to fail
it's up to you for peace of mind i updated carrier & jackshaft, yes 021's had a few issues,i did my 019 850 indy with 3500 miles on it my 020 850 indy xc 129 with 1400 miles on it & my 021 650 VR1 129, that sled had 2500 miles on it,
Hey Jesse! I have an idea for a video! What about sled break in. And the adjustments to make during break in and after? I'm curious, because I might get a new sled next year.
ride it like you stole it. we dont follow any specific procedures. i ride my sled hard from day one and have never had an issue. only adjustments needed are belt deflection (if you have a P85) and chain case tension which i have covered both in other videos
I bought a 137 last year coming from a 128. I'm going back to the 128, it corners much better. I have a 2022 650 xc 137. Really happy with it but i like the 128/9 better.
Would have snow checked a VR1 in that orange but no 129! Had an axys 137 which I liked but Wisconsin trails tend to be more twisty so the 129 is more fun. Hope Polaris brings it back next year.
Hey buddy put a 2 up Seat and the wife’s they are 185 137 and if I put 125 pound person on the back it will lift the skis under half three-quarter throttle how can I calm that down thank you
they dont really but do some special projects for people but not like we used too. was so time consuming and so expensive after the price of paint went through the roof
i edit all of these videos and his sound is the same volume as the other clips. and if its not i bump his volume up. im sorry if its still tough. i will pay more attention when editing
I have 2021 xc 850 I was wondering about 100 pound spring for the front of my sled. Would I have to re valve them. Also do you happen to know the Polaris part number. Thanks so much videos are great keep up the good work.
You would not “need” to revalve them but we do recommend re valving the shocks to get the best ultimate ride. I do not have the part number off the top of my head but give south side sales in north adams mass a call and they can get you all set up.
So, are the Velocity shocks just slightly better than the Fox shocks for aggressive trail riding? After watching the video, it seems like the Velocity shocks are not that big of a deal. Maybe a litter more adjustable, but what does that really matter for the average trail rider? Thoughts?
they are more adjustable. Many of them have a bigger body and bigger shaft so a little stronger. but the fox is a great shock. for average trail rider these will be great. and can always valve them down the road
Thanks Jesse. @@JESSEJAMES322
Which "mtn mid height" windshield are you referencing? Is that the RMK low for matryx chasis?
correct!
Hey Jesse I got a question about belt defection on my 2023 Vr1 boost. Do you have to adjust it.? Mine came with adjustment screw in secondary but my buddy got a 23 assault boost and it came with no adjustment screw. Not sure why they be different. When we got them last season his was in a couple months before mine so thinking may have changed something up.
some had adjustment bolts put in and some did not. 23 Boost sleds had a Creep issue because the belt was too wide for the primary clutch. so some dealers added a deflection bolt to loosen the belt tension (not the right thing to do). so you can loosen or take your bolt right out. hope that makes sense
Bruce mentions a "Mountain Mid" windshield but I can't find that online. Is he referring to Matryx RMK Low Dark Smoke Windshield
Item #: 2889405 ? or something else?
yes that is correct! in the AXYS days it was a mountain mid and we still call it that
Hi Jesse! I just purchased a leftover 650 23 adventure from my local dealer. I love all your videos and will definitely come see you when it’s time for a rebuild. Hygear kit may be in order! In the meantime I’m 240 without gear and am a semi aggressive rider. Would be curious on what clicker setting on the fox and if you think HD or trap for me? Thanks!
Congrats on the new sled. The adventures should come with HD ( i believe) Hygear kit is great but need to get the shocks valved when you do it!
@@JESSEJAMES322 thank you! Pumped. I believe only the x2 comes with the trap in 2023, but regular adventure comes with stock spring. I will confirm before ordering, but I’m guessing you recommend the HD over trap for me if I do have to upgrade? Yes Hygear at first rebuild!
24` XCR - what is the factory rear torsion spring on the unit? I'm a big and aggressive rider, I'm thinking I'm going to need more spring.
So that sled has the HD spring but depending on how big you are you may need more. We highly recommend revalving your suspension also. Easiest way to talk to me about what is needed is Facebook. Shoot me a message
Guys, just picked up a 129 850 xc. Im 5'6 190 and pretty aggressive. Id love to get to the best set up as quickly as possible. Its got a 1.35 cobra. Im gonna run two picks per lug per you recommendation. Im starting with 6 inches of carbide up front. Im going 2 inch rsi riser and heavy duty rear springs probably set on the lightest setting. I usually set the coupling blocks to keep the front end on the ground. Im also adding a set of floods. Anything other recommendations or settings a starting point? I truly appreciate your videos and insights. Great job!
Congrats on the new sled. I would like to see you run a set of 100 pound front springs. They make a huge difference with sled attitude and keeping the front up from dropping. Also if you wanna keep the front end on the ground I recommend pulling (shortening the limiter strap) shoot me a message on Facebook with any questions. That’s the easiest place to talk with me! Bit happy to help either way!
Thank you. I used to pull the limiter in on all of my old school sleds, but I haven't needed to do it on anything newer. It will definitely be on my mind. Never done front springs. I'll keep that in mind as well.
Need some guidance on picking a new sled
Looking for a great trail sled but also a good all around sled
XCR
VR1
XC??
Last sled I owned was 20 years ago, F7
Looks to me like Polaris is the front runners lately, help a guy out
Really comes down to what youre looking for. those 3 you mentioned are all very similar. as stated in this video theyre the exact same chassis with different components. what kind of rider are you? what kind of ridinga re you doing?
Pittsburgh trails guy but all around if we’d get some snow at home!
need some more detail then that. any of these sleds are trail sleds so they would all be perfect for that
230lb 6’3” ride fast in the trails and like to go off trail on occasion
the XCR will be sprung more apporpriately for you in stock form then the VR1 or XC so with that being said i would say XCR
So I went to snowcheck an Indy because I wanted a 129. I was told by multiple dealerships that you can’t get an Indy with the 7S from the factory, you’d have to buy it after . Was that true? I ended getting a 23 VR1-1 that was a snowcheck some one walked away from. I got it during the 24 snowcheck so I got it with the 3 year warranty. Is the walker Evans a noticeable better ride than the Fox? Also my 2010 Rush did not have the nicer gauge , that multi colored fat number gauge came in 2015 Axyss I believe, my 2015 Pro S. Thanks
I am not 100% but it should be an option when you snow check if not you can get the 7s as a dealer installed accessory
I snowchecked my 24 (In 2023) XCR 650 128 with a 7s. Have it sitting in my garage waiting for snow in upper Michigan.
The XCR is different though than the straight up Indy. Multiple dealers in Maine told me the same thing. Thank you, it’s too late now. I got what I want essentially anyway
@@coryroot yes but it would cost more to hook up the gps and full install thanks though
@@joeleaton607 I think my reply was blocked, the XCR is different than the Indy with options I believe I was told that was possible, multiple dealers in Maine told me the same thing, I got close to what I wanted anyway thanks
Thanks for another great video Jesse - another difference is that the VR1 has carbon fiber over structure… interested in knowing what/why that is
Frame that sits around your motor that your panels/hood sets on. Why? Weight and strength
Hey Jesse different topic I watched your video about jackshaft bearings in your opinion should I get the updated carrier I have a 2020 xc 137 almost no grease in it at 600 miles repacked bearing now I have 1200 miles with no grease loss, maybe polaris just uses very little grease I am just nervous it’s going to fail
21s were the bad ones
it's up to you for peace of mind i updated carrier & jackshaft, yes 021's had a few issues,i did my 019 850 indy with 3500 miles on it my 020 850 indy xc 129 with 1400 miles on it & my 021 650 VR1 129, that sled had 2500 miles on it,
Really depends on what you want. 21’s were the “most effected” but I would do It for peace of mind
My dealer told me studding the track voids warranty. Is that true?
Your whole warranty isn’t cancelled no just won’t cover issues caused by the studs
Yea that’s not true
Hey Jesse! I have an idea for a video! What about sled break in. And the adjustments to make during break in and after? I'm curious, because I might get a new sled next year.
ride it like you stole it. we dont follow any specific procedures. i ride my sled hard from day one and have never had an issue. only adjustments needed are belt deflection (if you have a P85) and chain case tension which i have covered both in other videos
I bought a 137 last year coming from a 128. I'm going back to the 128, it corners much better. I have a 2022 650 xc 137. Really happy with it but i like the 128/9 better.
136 xcr has tipped rails. I do not know if it makes a difference
ive ridden both and dont notice a huge differnece but i know guys that love their shorter sleds!
Would have snow checked a VR1 in that orange but no 129! Had an axys 137 which I liked but Wisconsin trails tend to be more twisty so the 129 is more fun. Hope Polaris brings it back next year.
unfortunately i do not see them bringing that back. i wouldn't be surprised if they get rid of the 129 in the XC next year.
@@JESSEJAMES322 bummer, I suppose the XCR is next then
Great video! Now we just need some damn snow!!!
i wish we had some :(
Hope you both had a good holiday and remember what we are celebrating. I hope we all have a even better year with lots of snow!
same to you! hope snow shows up soon!
Hey buddy put a 2 up Seat and the wife’s they are 185 137 and if I put 125 pound person on the back it will lift the skis under half three-quarter throttle how can I calm that down thank you
Have you upgraded your rear torsion springs?
I have the mirrors on my ‘21 XC . They don’t work that great. I have to move back on the seat and look down. Not a big fan.
They work better than most
That orange is sweet . I like.
I agree
That orange is gorgeous 😍
yes it is! big favorite this year
Southside no longer does custom paint jobs?
they dont really but do some special projects for people but not like we used too. was so time consuming and so expensive after the price of paint went through the roof
Wonder why they wouldn't put the extra support on the XC. Rear suspension. Like Bruce said. It's the weakest point. Nice video as always Jesse!
Just trying to keep the end $ amount down would be my guess. Thanks for following along
Can you add it to an xc?@@JESSEJAMES322
Yes you can
Where I ride tight twisty trails lots of 90 degree corners really like the 129 more
everyone has their feel. i feel they are almost identicle as there is mayeb 2 more inches on the ground but i get it! we all like what we like!
It would be great if Bruce wore a mic to be able to hear him better.
i edit all of these videos and his sound is the same volume as the other clips. and if its not i bump his volume up. im sorry if its still tough. i will pay more attention when editing
The current Standard guage came out in 2017
Sure???
I agree with @coryroot that standard gauge was changed in 2017. From 2010 - 2016 to 2017 - now there are changes in the buttons and software.
2010 rush had that guage
I’m pretty sure he was right on his year!!
yes he is@@JESSEJAMES322
Kind of - the 2010 version doesn’t display temp
850 137