I've never gotten why people disliked Wesley. It always seemed like they wanted him to be an adult when he was simply a teenager trying to learn to be an adult. So he occasionally/often put his foot in it. That's part of growing up. As to the poor ending of his time on TNG, I blame poor writing.
Good point and why does Captain Picard treat him badly and repeatedly tells him to "shut up"? In the Next Generation novel "Death in Winter" by Michael Jan Friedman, before he was Captain, Picard was hopelessly in love with Dr. Crusher and it's likely that Picard treats Wesley badly because he has bitter feelings over Beverly marrying Wesley's deceased father Jack. That could explain why.
I always thought Wesley was a good character played by a good young actor, but his character wasn't written up to his potential. A real teen, smart and ambitious, and working on a real ship, would have plenty of realistic opportunities for everyday, relatable problems, for occasional heroics and screwups, just learning how to be an adult and an officer. He'd have all the things teens go through, and he'd have to learn how to be a good officer onboard a ship. Even a genius teen would not often save the day over trained, educated, seasoned officers, but only rarely and it would need to be well written so it doesn't come off as a Mary Sue plot device. Wesley did get some good stuff, but I think they handled Nog and Jake better, more realistically in some ways. Still, I never got the dislike some people had for Wesley's character, and Will Wheaton as an actor has more talent than he got to show much as Wesley.
"Wesley! 30 years from now you will have a brother which will be named Jack Crusher. But like you, he is actually my son as well. But by then you will be a supernatural Space Traveler, so we'll just treat you like you'd never exist in the first place!!" 😄
In all honesty he was my favourite Star Trek character growing up and is still among the ones I like most. As a child with Asperger's I saw a lot of myself in him, as I suspect many nerds/geeks did.
"As our so- I mean My son tried to tell you!" I always felt that it was the original intent of the writers for Picard to have been Wesley's biological father. But they probably abandoned that storyline when they realised it would have been a bit too soap-opera-ish.
@@casey6556 He got no respect Remember the time he accidentally broke that aliens greenhouse and almost got killed by the brainchild of the star trek director's reading a superman vs braniac comic
Wesley's sweater though... hahaha I love his collection of sweaters. Also, he looked soooo little in the first episode! He didn't look 15, he looked like 13...
I was a teenager. At the time, we had a French exchange student (soooooo freaking hot!). This episode came on and she asked, in her sultry voice, 'Eez thees a girl, no?' Damn, she was hot.
I could almost imagine Wesley too intimidated to sit in the captain's chair. Imagining the orders that were given and which captain sat in it. So much history.
I always wondered if that was the original intent of the writers. I figured Picard and Beverly both knew, but Wesley and Mr. Crusher were in the dark. Why else would Picard have reacted so strongly when Dr. Cusher introduced him?
Since Gene Roddenberry was calling the shots at the time, I doubt he was going for that soap opera style plot. However, his unfortunate death freed up the writers with edgier plots for shows like DS9. I know they must have considered it a number of times.🤔🤔🤔🤔
Weren’t they originally planning to do that anyway? Poor Wesley he was the result of bad writing, he could’ve been better but was artificially injected into it
No, Crusher was under Picard's command, not the other way around. Picard and Jackwere great friends and both had feelings for Beverly, but she wound up married to Jack. I believe Picard actually knew her first and introduced her t Jack. She also had some feelings for Picard even though she was married to Jack. Picard while in command of the stargazer gave the order that resulted in Jack's death- something like a wrath of khan scenario where Jack had to make repairs to the ship that he wouldn't survive. Picard still has feelings for Beverly and she has feelings for him but... they both felt like given the circumstances, it didn't seem right for them to be together. They always had a close relationship and there was that romantic tension. In one possible timeline, they do get married and later divorce. At one point in the last season when they are telepathically linked, Picard thinks that maybe they should explore the possibility of a relationship, but Crusher rebukes him. In that episode, she learns that when she was assigned to the Enterprise in the first season, he was still attracted to her and was responsible for her reassignment to starflett medical on earth in season 2, but felt troubled by that decision and decided that he need to subdue his feelings for her, which he thought he had when he had her come back for season 3 (although it's clear that those feelings are still there). In this scene in the video, the last time Picard saw wesley was at Jack's funeral when wesley was just a baby. Here, as Wil Wheaton put it, he is seeing/maybe trying not to see Jack in his son wesley. Picard at the same time both feels guilt, but understands that he gave the correct order at the time to save the stargazer. There is a complex thing with Wesley where Picard sort of wants to play a surrogate father role to Wesley but also feels that it's inappropriate. To be clear, the order that sent Jack to his death was not in any way shape or form motivated by jealousy. But this is the reason for his complex relationship with the Crushers.
You've got the right idea but the wrong title and abbreviation. CO: Commanding Officer, the ship's captain. XO: Executive Officer, First Officer, or Number One. Jack Crush was Picard's XO and Picard was the CO. As said above, they were best friends and shipmates for years, plus both liked/loved Beverly, and she and Jack married and had Wesley, then Jack was killed while on duty when Wesley was little, around toddler age or preschool, so Wesley remembers and misses his father. That's the backstory for why Picard and Dr. Crusher are so emotional in this intro scene.
aperson22222 I know it was all over the place, it went from stern to romantic to willy wonka to stern to willy wonka to stern again. And it was obvious they where trying to imply that Picard was Wesley’s dad
Captain looks like me though im in my 20s and if i still living ill have same look like he does when i hit 60s. This video is heart warming. Wesley looks like some one that some day be my grand son and woman that doctor looks like my girlfriend but it be my sons wife
I think there's an untold story through TNG and I hope they flesh it out in the next Picard iteration. Picard has always lover Beverly and harbours guilt for coveting his friends wife. His honour would never allow him to pursue Beverly because he would view it as a betrayal of his dead friend. Picard didn't let Wes on the bridge because he was Beverly's or even Jack's son - he let him on because he could have been HIS son. Picard came to view Wes as the closest thing to a son he would ever have and had to balance the roles of father and captain while haunted by the fact that he is only in this position because he ordered Jack to his death.
"Wesley! 30 years from now you will have a brother which will be named Jack Crusher. But like you, he is actually my son as well. But by then you'd be a supernatural Space Traveler, so we'll just treat you like you'd never exist in the first place!!" 😉
I still feel like they were trying to imply that Picard was actually Wesley’s father. That said, it took me several episodes to realize that Cersei and Jamie were brother and sister
"As my son tried to tell you!" And with that, many of us hated Wesley Crusher. Bad writing. I know Roddenberry wanted a prodigy youth like he considered himself to have been. but Wesley really was the JarJar Binks of Star Trek. Ironically I really like Will Wheaton. A shame he got stuck with that character. And Gates McFadden was breathtakingly beautiful.
I've never gotten why people disliked Wesley. It always seemed like they wanted him to be an adult when he was simply a teenager trying to learn to be an adult. So he occasionally/often put his foot in it. That's part of growing up. As to the poor ending of his time on TNG, I blame poor writing.
Good point and why does Captain Picard treat him badly and repeatedly tells him to "shut up"? In the Next Generation novel "Death in Winter" by Michael Jan Friedman, before he was Captain, Picard was hopelessly in love with Dr. Crusher and it's likely that Picard treats Wesley badly because he has bitter feelings over Beverly marrying Wesley's deceased father Jack. That could explain why.
I always thought Wesley was a good character played by a good young actor, but his character wasn't written up to his potential. A real teen, smart and ambitious, and working on a real ship, would have plenty of realistic opportunities for everyday, relatable problems, for occasional heroics and screwups, just learning how to be an adult and an officer. He'd have all the things teens go through, and he'd have to learn how to be a good officer onboard a ship. Even a genius teen would not often save the day over trained, educated, seasoned officers, but only rarely and it would need to be well written so it doesn't come off as a Mary Sue plot device. Wesley did get some good stuff, but I think they handled Nog and Jake better, more realistically in some ways. Still, I never got the dislike some people had for Wesley's character, and Will Wheaton as an actor has more talent than he got to show much as Wesley.
It was basically because he was saving the ship every other episode, while the adults were bumbling around.
Josh B this right here exactly. It was like he was supposed to be some kind of motivation for ratings, like the Star Trek version of Batman and Robin.
🤔 Why does Starfleet allow children on *Galaxy-class* star ships anyways, don't they realize how dangerous it is.
'No, no! Act *more* awkwardly everyone! MORE AWKWARD!'
Get off the bridge! How dare you read the screen I was showing you
Thank goodness it improved remarkably later on
Wesley: "You knew my father?"
Picard: "Well, of course I know him. He's me."
"I told you to forget it!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Savage 🤣
"Wesley! 30 years from now you will have a brother which will be named Jack Crusher. But like you, he is actually my son as well.
But by then you will be a supernatural Space Traveler, so we'll just treat you like you'd never exist in the first place!!" 😄
Wesley being Luke and Picard being Obi-Wan... never thought I'd see Star Wars quotes in a Star Trek video but I dig it
"We have a perimeter alert sir!"
"As my son tried to tell you!"
Pretty much every time Wesley does anything 😆
In all honesty he was my favourite Star Trek character growing up and is still among the ones I like most. As a child with Asperger's I saw a lot of myself in him, as I suspect many nerds/geeks did.
Casey Broughton yes, I never understood why so many fans hated him.
"As our so- I mean My son tried to tell you!" I always felt that it was the original intent of the writers for Picard to have been Wesley's biological father. But they probably abandoned that storyline when they realised it would have been a bit too soap-opera-ish.
@@casey6556 He got no respect
Remember the time he accidentally broke that aliens greenhouse and almost got killed by the brainchild of the star trek director's reading a superman vs braniac comic
@@LeoMes01 yeah but to be honest that planet deserved a shaking up
Wesley "perimeter alert captain"
everyone "SHUT UP WESLEY"
I bet Picard would be a stern father but one that would push and encourage you to be the best you can be.
Wesley's sweater though... hahaha
I love his collection of sweaters.
Also, he looked soooo little in the first episode! He didn't look 15, he looked like 13...
I always loved his collection of weird sweaters.
I wondered why he was dressed so badly. The future is not bright for fashion.
Cosby sweater
He was thinking shut up wesley at first sight.
The first time i watched an episode with Wesley( i was 4 years old ) i thought he was a girl 😂😂😂
Thats cuz he is
I was a teenager. At the time, we had a French exchange student (soooooo freaking hot!). This episode came on and she asked, in her sultry voice, 'Eez thees a girl, no?'
Damn, she was hot.
Do you people expect him to have a full beard already or something?
We all did
He was originally going to be a girl, Leslie Crusher.
I think that was a very effective scene. Very well acted. You knew there were complicated emotions afoot.
I liked Wesley Crusher he was a kid prodigy and save the crew of enterprise many times. I don’t know why ppl dislike his character
Because he was a kid prodigy and saved the crew many times.
I just love how the whole thing just starts with: *_"What the HELL?!"_*
Picard: what the hell?
The music when Wesley enters the bridge reminds me of music played for a jolly puppy jumping around.
Beverly turned off Picard's brain and turned on something else.
ruclips.net/video/ksR1ZCfpg3A/видео.html&ab_channel=BizarreTrek
You're welcome.
And this is why everyone loves Wesley!
I could almost imagine Wesley too intimidated to sit in the captain's chair. Imagining the orders that were given and which captain sat in it. So much history.
Wesley is just the meg of star trek
what if Wesley was picards secret son and Beverly never told him
She's collecting the welfare and waiting to hit it big after picard hits admiral before disclosing that.
I always wondered if that was the original intent of the writers. I figured Picard and Beverly both knew, but Wesley and Mr. Crusher were in the dark. Why else would Picard have reacted so strongly when Dr. Cusher introduced him?
Since Gene Roddenberry was calling the shots at the time, I doubt he was going for that soap opera style plot. However, his unfortunate death freed up the writers with edgier plots for shows like DS9. I know they must have considered it a number of times.🤔🤔🤔🤔
I actually heard that theory years ago...
Weren’t they originally planning to do that anyway? Poor Wesley he was the result of bad writing, he could’ve been better but was artificially injected into it
That walking shot made the stage look so fake.
I did love Picard's attitude... get off the bridge "boy"
A touching moment between Picard and the Crushers. But I never really fully understood Picard's relationship to Jack Crusher
memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Crusher
Picard was Jack Crusher's best friend and CO on the Stargazer.
No, Crusher was under Picard's command, not the other way around. Picard and Jackwere great friends and both had feelings for Beverly, but she wound up married to Jack. I believe Picard actually knew her first and introduced her t Jack. She also had some feelings for Picard even though she was married to Jack.
Picard while in command of the stargazer gave the order that resulted in Jack's death- something like a wrath of khan scenario where Jack had to make repairs to the ship that he wouldn't survive. Picard still has feelings for Beverly and she has feelings for him but... they both felt like given the circumstances, it didn't seem right for them to be together. They always had a close relationship and there was that romantic tension. In one possible timeline, they do get married and later divorce. At one point in the last season when they are telepathically linked, Picard thinks that maybe they should explore the possibility of a relationship, but Crusher rebukes him. In that episode, she learns that when she was assigned to the Enterprise in the first season, he was still attracted to her and was responsible for her reassignment to starflett medical on earth in season 2, but felt troubled by that decision and decided that he need to subdue his feelings for her, which he thought he had when he had her come back for season 3 (although it's clear that those feelings are still there).
In this scene in the video, the last time Picard saw wesley was at Jack's funeral when wesley was just a baby. Here, as Wil Wheaton put it, he is seeing/maybe trying not to see Jack in his son wesley. Picard at the same time both feels guilt, but understands that he gave the correct order at the time to save the stargazer. There is a complex thing with Wesley where Picard sort of wants to play a surrogate father role to Wesley but also feels that it's inappropriate.
To be clear, the order that sent Jack to his death was not in any way shape or form motivated by jealousy. But this is the reason for his complex relationship with the Crushers.
Oh sorry, I misread Daniel's comment, yes, Picard was Jack's CO.
You've got the right idea but the wrong title and abbreviation. CO: Commanding Officer, the ship's captain. XO: Executive Officer, First Officer, or Number One. Jack Crush was Picard's XO and Picard was the CO. As said above, they were best friends and shipmates for years, plus both liked/loved Beverly, and she and Jack married and had Wesley, then Jack was killed while on duty when Wesley was little, around toddler age or preschool, so Wesley remembers and misses his father. That's the backstory for why Picard and Dr. Crusher are so emotional in this intro scene.
technically Wesley wasn't on the bridge when picards says 'children are not allowed on the bridge he's in the turbolift
4everanarsenalfan lol
Picard:"Do not even think about coming in. Who knows, if I allow that, how long it will take until you want to sit at the helm."
4everanarsenalfan Which is exactly the type of comment made by another teen-age know it all! Shut up, Wesley!
4everanarsenalfan good point
What a weird, awkward scene.
aperson22222 I know it was all over the place, it went from stern to romantic to willy wonka to stern to willy wonka to stern again. And it was obvious they where trying to imply that Picard was Wesley’s dad
@@DrCuriensapprentice *LOL! So true.*
Part of it heart warming the heart start
he's just salty because a child isn't absolutely stupid
Captain looks like me though im in my 20s and if i still living ill have same look like he does when i hit 60s. This video is heart warming. Wesley looks like some one that some day be my grand son and woman that doctor looks like my girlfriend but it be my sons wife
I think there's an untold story through TNG and I hope they flesh it out in the next Picard iteration.
Picard has always lover Beverly and harbours guilt for coveting his friends wife. His honour would never allow him to pursue Beverly because he would view it as a betrayal of his dead friend. Picard didn't let Wes on the bridge because he was Beverly's or even Jack's son - he let him on because he could have been HIS son. Picard came to view Wes as the closest thing to a son he would ever have and had to balance the roles of father and captain while haunted by the fact that he is only in this position because he ordered Jack to his death.
Spoilers, they didn't. Instead they ruined Picard as a character.
Why are they using background music like from DALLAS? I'm waiting for J.R.to burst on the scene.
Well this has a new perspective now...
Wesley was damn cute in this scene .
This relationship was doomed to fail immediately.
Wesley, always with the Crosby sweaters..
"Get off the bridge, both of you!"
Picard: children are not allowed on the bridge.
Damnit Beverly. You sneaky...
Also, best (or worst, depending on your opinion) scene in the show with Wesley. No one said, "Shut up, Wesley."
Imagine the remake of this where Snooki is Councillor Troy & Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is Wesley Crusher
Fml 😂
"Wesley! 30 years from now you will have a brother which will be named Jack Crusher. But like you, he is actually my son as well. But by then you'd be a supernatural Space Traveler, so we'll just treat you like you'd never exist in the first place!!" 😉
Plot twist West is his kid!!
For once, Worf gets to deny Picard. 😜
King of Mary Sues right huuuuuuurrrr 😂💀
I LOVE WIL WHEATON
I still feel like they were trying to imply that Picard was actually Wesley’s father. That said, it took me several episodes to realize that Cersei and Jamie were brother and sister
And Wesley and Jack are actually blood brothers 😆😉
Shut up Wesley... gangsta
Some way to introduce them.
He told Dr. Crusher to get off the bridge... ?
CColtManM well yeah? So?
Picard really can't relate to kids. He has no instinct.
fucking hell I wish my doctor was that hot
"As my son tried to tell you!" And with that, many of us hated Wesley Crusher. Bad writing. I know Roddenberry wanted a prodigy youth like he considered himself to have been. but Wesley really was the JarJar Binks of Star Trek. Ironically I really like Will Wheaton. A shame he got stuck with that character. And Gates McFadden was breathtakingly beautiful.
Shame on you Jean-Luc for not keeping in tough with your best friends wife.
Some scenes were just setup to be stupid.
Like all democrats
That sweater has got to go.
that sweater should be illegal
Wesley was doing just fine until he sat in the captain's chair, then he got stupid 😄
what the fuck i thought her shirt was blue not green
Hwill hwheaton
At 2:25 is the best part of this video!!
Wesley. crusher. meet. captain. Picard. from your. foster. sister. Tanya Lynn venema larente
First season was so bad