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God: Fact or Fiction? | John Lennox at Vanderbilt University
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I made exactly the same statement when my husband died and just over a year later one of my precious sons died . Both were accidental deaths and I said to my children “ why not us , would we wish this tragedy on another family “. I have faith that God has a plan and I have no idea what it is however I know God knew my family was strong enough to endure these tragedies , never get over them but go on carrying the pain as we all do in our own way and lives .
I’ve in the same position ...and that’s where HOPE, ETERNITY, and TRUTH become so vital!!
L K I hope you're doing ok. God Bless You and your loved ones as this journey continues .
God bless you both. Your faith strengthens mine.
Isovapor2112 Pascalls wager ? I believe I'm on the right side . Despite the suffering I have been blessed beyond measure and I thank God for that .
@@Isovapor where in the bible were men of god not susceptible to suffering exactly? Have you read Job? Weren't the apostles persecuted and some killed? Jesus himself God in the flesh was tortured and crucified. Why didn't he save himself? That's exactly what the romans said similar to your remarks. You have no understanding of god. This is why Jesus while being crucified said " forgive them father for they don't know what they are doing".
It's a shame people don't take time to watch long videos. These intellectual analyses are deeper and relevant to people's unresolved issues.
You Christian are such hypocrites ! You believe what you know not for salvation is for the Israelites
perhaps people love their sins more?
@@maxredman5628 There is no such thing as SIN only moral and immoral actions.
The percieved whims of your imaginary friend are irrelevant in any discussion of morality.
you are absolutely right. John Lennox is at heart a teacher par excellence. Why would you not want to learn from his vast font of knowledge. Thank you.
This dear man has "godly wisdom" and his teaching is a blessing. 🙏 Mrs.b.Australia
I have immense respect for John Lennox. He is a man of intelligence but more than that, he has the courage to defend his beliefs in a profession that shows an ungodly bias. He answers (and asks himself) the questions that others avoid. We could use more academics like him in this world.
I did look very critically at the idea of a God. I also looked very critically at atheism. I grew skeptical of skepticism. I found myself feeling very cynical about cynicism. I did what all good mathematicians do: I turned every situation upside down, and checked my math. In the end, I found that atheism is the height of hypocrisy. Every detrimental criticism that atheism uses against Christianity is equally detrimental when applied to atheism itself. It just didn't hold up to scrutiny.
Exactly.
Amen
That the most hog wash splashed on a post I have read. Now put some reason in your word salad..
@@axer3515 Better yet. Instead of throwing a tantrum on here, why don't you point out what specifically about said "word salad" is "hogwash" constructively?
@@Navesblue this poster stated that he used science to analyze the paranormal. The whole reason it is called paranormal is because the normal means of examination does not work. The word salad comes from being critical cynicism and sceptical of scepticism. Real scepticism would be to ask how a book inspired by a supreme being was used to establish Catholicism but has been used to split that church into 30,000 different denominations. I have said for years the real war is in the church not on the church. Atheism is growing because the God of the gaps is shrinking not because atheist are asking question.
I love John's kind demeanor... definitely one of my favorite apologists.
He is a gift to the world! Love the guy...
He is more like an apologetic than an apologist.
instablaster.
@@oldscorp He and I want you to have a wonderful eternity with God.
Atheists want you to ensure your trashed eternity as they do with anti-God lifestyles.
God continues to provide miracles- aside from the obvious ones like children and animals being born all the time, He does miracles in our lives and I have experienced one.......
ahmed barakat Faith in God is not eye blinder but eye opener or sight clearer .
The way I face the fact of pain and suffering is that our time here as humans is a drop of water in the bucket of Eternity- God will make all things in right in Heaven, He will right all the wrongs, he will provide greatly to those who have suffered................
My beautiful sister thy TRUE HOSTS WILL WASHED THY FEET INDEED WITH TRUE CARE AND WILL WIPED THY TEARS GENTLY FROM THY EYES! JUST FOR THEE TO KNOW. YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN ANYTHING NOR EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS! SISTER LOVE YA! NOTHING IS WASTED BUT INCREASED. SISTER MAKE MORE BEAUTIFUL SISTERS LIKE YOU! LIFT THY HEAD UP!
John Lennox is a chosen vessel of gold.
Once again even after listening to scores of John Lennox's lectures I have learned something new. Amazing!
Eric Armstrong awesome bro!
This man has invested so much into the abrahamic hoax he refuses to view the evidence rationally
heard his talks so many times, but still so awesome!!
you are not alone on that
U can tell god is alive through this man
Healings and miracles serve a purpose beyond physical comfort, physical happiness, and physical proof for skeptics.
You know, it's a shame these videos don't get more views. Too few people care to look into these questions or even ask them in the first place.
We cannot force people to believe, with or without weapons, but we can teach and establish the laws of God.
Truth always holds up to scrutiny. Nothing that is true has ever been proved false. But truth is sometimes overshadowed by lies for a very long time.
I have faith in salvation in Christ. What I was trying to get across was that I also have faith in the love of God. You said yourself that you once knew God. You said you wanted to get closer to God. That kind of love is true, and powerful. So I have faith that it can have subtle strength over your doubts about Christ. I've seen it work.
Love Mr. Lennox and looooooooooove this channel! God Bless!!!
The last 6 minutes of this is pure gold
God claiming everything? To some will be appalling? To some, will be revelations? And forever relationship with God.
Yep. What he said.
john is a blessing.
Such a great intellect driven by compassion and principle.
Of all things he talks about, I will always remember him for one quote, "Therefer...". 🇮🇪 😄
Thanks for this interview.
I will be teaching this man in college someday.
John Lennox at his best!
THANK YOU BOTH ... FOR A VERY ENLIGHTENING TALK...!!!
Don't know what denomination Lennox comes from, and I don't care bcs he is a Christian, and every time I listen to him, I just love him and want to watch & hear him every chance I get. And I thank God for him in Jesus' Name.
Dr. John Lennox is brilliant!
Thank you God for John Lennox. What a mind! What a communicator!
Loved this. So much knowledge with wisdom. Thank you Lord for Dr. Lennox
When a person is truly born again, they stop sinful acts. “You must be born again” - Jesus Christ
How charitable and opened-minded of you...
Yes hitchens is blind.....they debated a few times.
trunksbella, did you ever get the feeling he had a grudge against God? A God he doesn’t believe in, or so he says
Science is great and fantastic branch of knowledge but is limited. There are a lots of things science cannot explain. God explanation of our existence make more sense than any explanation out there.
Yes it would be love. Love is defined by the deep affection that your wife has for you, not the reason why she might have it.
Those who sees God as fiction is extremely blind, their state is horrible, God's mercy follow their life to save their soul.
Those who see god as fiction are correct. Your god is no different from every other god which YOU deem to be fiction.
FYI, John Lennox will be in Philadelphia April 5-6 at a great 2-day event, the Westminster Conference on Science and Faith.
People rarely listen to someone who is not teaching from their world view. Usually someone who has experienced God will never be talked out of it. and someone who does not want God will rarely be talked into it. In the bible Jesus taught in Parables for the very purpose that those who desire God will understand and those that don't will be confused. It seems that God reveals himself to those that desire him and won't be found of them who don't
The crusades were Catholic NOT Christian.
God has to be real- how can something that is not alive create something that is alive?
The "punishment" is crazy harsh. But it is also self-imposed. People CHOOSE to go to hell. Nobody was ever sent there against their will. Nobody. Everybody that is in hell got there because they made a choice to turn from God.
Putting somebody in "reahab" won't help anything if they don't want to change. If 60-100 years of torment on earth doesn't convince somebody to quit doing whatever they want, and turn to God, what makes you think that 100 (or 100k) years of torment in hell would do it?
I like Ravi Zacharias’ version of response when it comes to suffering and pain, he could deal it head on.
There is something about coming to Christ through logic and reason is the most compelling case
Bottom line is, "no one can come to be, unless the father draws them" . The word draw is: to pull a massive stone with a strong rope.
And,
One must be "born again". Only the Holy Spirit creates the new birth in a person.
So we are totally depended upon God. It must be God's will.
Indeed beloved, outpouring of God's Spirit upon all flesh. Therefore LANGUAGE is given and LANGUAGE understood indeed. Now old self died and thy old GARMENT replaced indeed. Is like along with our shortcomings, mistakes, shame, nor being denied become none existence beloved. Wiping tears from thy eyes and all sins Will not be remember. By becoming a CHILDS in front of God with sincere conversations with God to thyself and to one another availeth much indeed. Life was DESIRED and life kept indeed. Not according to the flesh nor mens Will but of God. Indeed, now a TRUE CHILDS OF GOD. NOW HEIRS FOR THY FEET IS YESHUA JESUS CHRIST FEETS BELOVED. WASHERS OF FEETS OF NEIGHBORS AND WIPING TEARS FROM ALL EYES. FEETS RESTING UPON 1ST. LOVE GOD 2ND. LOVE THY NEIGHBORS AS THYSELF. TRUTH AND PEACE REUNITE. Nothing is wasted but increased beloved. Love ya! Keep it going beloved!
Love this conversation
John Lennox is my Earthly hero!
Is like who God have joined together will noone separate. Beloved is like why I do what I do? For thee beloved
Father God thank you for utterance. Specially as a CHILDS in front of thee! With sincere conversations with thee and to one another availeth much indeed. Is like how is the MIND OF GOD IN YOUR LIFE BELOVED?
I especially liked this one. If you can’t listen to the whole thing maybe at least the last 15 minutes or so and let me know what you think.
Jesus has been returning for each soul that claims Him Savior ever since He walked the earth.He has been living up to His promise ever since.
The 12 represent each one of us in some form or fashion
Jesus wants us to share our suffering with us who personally suffered without his Father unbearable suffering to the very death.
The possible choice for absolute non-violence is challenged when third party is involved, when violence is directed against your neighbor and you are the bystander.... Christian is morally obliged to do something about it because of the second commandment: love your neighbor..
Thank you for Dr Lennox.
a god would leave no one unconvinced of its existence.
I only have to look at the order of our planet, the Universe, love, conscience, instinct, DNA..........it's enough to have zero doubt whatsoever........
Don't get me wrong, I don't take the death and resurrection of Christ lightly. I do believe, but some days it just drives my mind crazy, thinking "Why?" God's creativity has no limits, and the way I see it, pain is part of the process.
Well, I personally wouldn't count you out as hell-bound just yet. My grandpa served in the Korean war, and a couple of atheists he served with got VERY religious when it came time to die. The fact that you know the Bible and once believed in God is enough for me. I don't feel the need to evangelize to you. I trust the power of God enough to let it do the work that needs to be done.
You see, it doesn't matter if you believe in God or not. He believes in you. And that is what changes you forever.
Anyone please, around 1:27:25 John mentions a book by Peter Williams on logic etc.
does anyone have the name of the book? Thank you.
Lennox describing why Hume was wrong 19:30 . Strange, as it seems like something a 2nd grader could understand quite easily. Why is it so hard for modern man to understand?
Are you reading my comments? Where does the Bible say that God must heal people? And why does a God that does not heal amputees necessitate His non-existence? Do you not see that this is a non-sequitur?
****Outside Time, Space, Matter and you have Love that had One Sentence we refer to as UniVerse.
And God said, "Let There Be."
For so many worship knowingly or unknowingly that which is created and desire to be a god or as God. For nothing can be made or destroyed, for all has been created and nothing more can be done, we simply "make" from what has been created.
You simply are blind if you can not see what has been created, and only a fool would say, "There is no God."
As sure as a building took a builder, a painting took a painter, then all of creation must have taken a Creator in of which became man, to suffer and die to redeem him. For this Love in completeness. The Alpha and Omega!
because reasoning takes to finally to your creator God
Why would Christ need to break the cycle in the first place? If God knew we were going to sin, why couldn't his instructions have been clearer, to all of us so we wouldn't have to sin? Why plant a tree that wouldn't serve any other purpose but to make man fall? He knew this was going to happen, and He let it happen. And now Hell is a place designated not just for Satan and his angels but fallen men as well, God's creation. For what? All of it seems so unnecessary in itself.
greenXpieces
Free will requires real choice. You cannot be good unless the choice is real. It also implies you must allow evil.
God Bless
Thank you for the reminding! 2 years ago indeed. Father God I thank my true forefathers upon all dry GROUNDS. LANGUAGE given and LANGUAGE understood indeed. Not unless the wise of this world becomes a CHILDS in front of God with sincere tears and conversations with God will be given sincere answers. Is like take thy sits beloved. Always was yours. But do recognize before moving forward beloved. Used these 2. 1st. Love God 2nd. Love thy neighbors as thyself beloved. How else can I and many kings and priests like me SHOW OFF TO GOD WITHOUT NEIGHBORS GIVEN BY GOD BELOVED? Is not about the MEEKS but who are sitting upon a SACRED SITS! Who don't belong sitting! True HOSTS and own Be AWAKE! PRINCIPALITIES WHO SITS IN HIGH PLACES. YOU MAY KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS. THE TREE IS KNOWN BY IT'S FRUITS. BE AWAKE ALL THE FEETS OF YESHUA JESUS CHRIST UPON ALL DRY GROUNDS NOR THE WORLD. My legions upon all dry GROUNDS FEETS resting upon the footstool of God at this very tip of TIME. Noone can UPROOT nor shaken but here to stay for good. Come as you are as a child in front of God with sincere conversations with God. Building True reasons like a child. Then you and I will have a TRUE REASONS to be able to STAND IN FRONT OF GOD. Towards an inheritance yet to come. The child will say? Who among all of you? Who have been given the privilege to be able to breathed through our nostrils beloved. Many call themselves sciencetis, technologies, nor molding things with the hands of men. Is like why are you doing what are you doing? Beloved will question doubt! Ok. Remember 1st. Love God 2nd. Love thy neighbors as thyself. To all who dought? Who among the wise of this world can have a tea under a shade of a true well rooted tree that can't be uprooted nor shaken but here to stay for good. I'm sure our conversations will have no end. Is like why talked nor uttered words. Remember utterance has a true foundation can't be uprooted and indeed with an Aim. Love my pop Lennox. MILEAGE from his FEETS none is lost! But father God look how beautiful my pop like you father God! His FEET are like thy and all the true HOSTS and own of YESHUA Jesus christ FEETS resting upon all dry GROUNDS nor the world. HEIRS WASHERS of FEETS of neighbors and wiping tears from all eyes and to fulfill and restoration as intended accordingly to God's True Will. Love God and neighbors as thyself. For God knows the pure in hearts. Beloved don't be amazed how? Just be amazed you and I are given the true can be kept life to have a tea under a shade of well rooted tree that can't be uprooted nor shaken but here to stay for good. Obviously God our father only wants to have a sincere conversations with thee and one another beloved availeth much. Saving the best wine for LAST.
if God truly is omnipotent, why not change reality? I believe there is a God, and the only explanation I see is "God enjoys pain". But we can go a step further, "God wants people in pain to reach out to him and establish a relationship with him through that"... but what about those people who don't know him? And why not just appear to us before pain appears in order to start the relationship? Oh, right. The problem of sin... and the cycle continues...
greenXpieces
God is infinitely more able to handle reality than you or I. Thus, if God does it this way, there is a clear reason. Asking the unanswerable question will never prove or disprove your claims here. All you know is that it is, why is beyond you. Start with solid answers from places you can access & then go on to these after exhausting those.
I would wager that you never get back to this question. There are so many you need to first answer to begin to tackle this.
continues regular struggle daily take you each day only one step towards God
Can John Lennox meet with Hugh Ross and talk.
Who are we, the creation, to talk back to our creator? God allows what we call evil. As creator that is his right to do so. We do not have the knowledge and wisdom of our creator. We are to submit and obey our creator, and experience the Vastness of God's Love.
What sort of creature could a god be? What's he made of? What was he doing before he "created" the universe?
GeoCoppens
What is before the Universe? God would have to be such a being. Space & time were not there, so immaterial, unchanging,& timeless. Powerful since He started the Universe. He also would have to be personal (if not you are talking about a natural law).
That is a fair description of the Christian God. The only thing lacking is moral goodness, but that comes for the moral argument. Since there are objective morals that exist, there must be an objective law giver. This is the maximally Good being. These laws flow from His nature. This is God.
Before the universe there was no "before". because when God created the heaven and the earth he created time...there was no time before time.
Read some books, lazy guy.
He is not a creature. Creatures are created.
@@OMAELITE ‘In the case of religious belief, never attribute to intelligence that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.’ Hanlon’s Razor
most complex is your creator called God
called
unfortunalely we huma beings ignored teachings of our Phrophets
your visions compelled you to sit and talk about your creator called God
It is true that people are turned away from Christianity because of Christians' behavior, but here is was said that they turn away because the Christians' confession is so different from their practice.
I have thought much about this, and I find the error in religion. Our confession isn't the problem, it is that we treat people so contrary to our confession. So what is the Christians confession? I don't know what yours is, but mine is that "I AM A SINNER IN NEED OF A SAVIOR, AND JESUS, THE SON OF GOD, IS THE ONE AND ONLY SAVIOR."
So then, why are we so hateful to sinners. Could it be that we feel superior to them? This is the message that the world gets, so when they see Christians sinning they see it as a contradiction to our confession. The sinning Christian is a shame, but It is not a contradiction to his/her confession.
Nothing good that comes from me is due to me, but is due to Christ in me. I am a sinner saved by grace, righteous and justified by the death, burial and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ, the Lord.
Christians, let's remember our confession, and let's love fellow sinners, the children of wrath, so that they might see and know our Savior and experience His grace as we have (Ephesians 2:1-9).
On miracles... Jesus was not a big fan of them, for he knew that people who depend on miracles to believe, have a very shallow belief system. Once the miracles are gone, they are too. At his baptism, he turned over control of his attendant celestial hosts to his Father. So, when his mother comes along and wanted him to do something about the shortage of wine at the wedding in Cana, his human self wanted to please his mother, but he had promised himself not to use any of his creative powers, and to win people over purely based on his humanness. But the simple moment of wanting his mother to be happy, created an opportunity which his Father used to green-light the angels jumping in and manufacturing the wine. Jesus was as surprised as everyone else at the sudden supply of wine.
People today are the same way. We love the miracles, but rarely stop to say 'thank-you'.
Like John Lennox said, a follower of Christ is defined by Christ as those who DO as He directs His followers to do. This does not seem to be something that is being recognized or absorbed. This matters. Because the Inquisitors certainly were working on a political agenda and disregarding the way of Christ, thats is, if we read Matthew, Mark, Luke or John of the New Testament . Its very important to come to the reality is that the boundaries of our human mortality does not define the boundaries of our life beyond this temporal age. This age is but an apprenticeship for the ages to come and we daily are making a choice of whether we will stand alone in those ages or be an eternal part of the community of Christ.
this is the consequences today we are in tensions or mentals problems troubles with zero satisfactions spiritually
Please share my two brief videos with other people. Thank you!
i would say
Whats the name of the interviewer sitting with Lennox?
The greater issue are the problems or things people have done to offend God. He will cause men more problems and finally destroy mankind.
How do you know god is offended and will destroy mankind? Without actual evidence for such perturbing claims, it is irresponsible to make them.
If you keep it up, God shall smite thee with very... um... smiteful smites.
Bad things happen because we have free will an live in a fallen world after the garden this is what the God of the Bible teaches i know this video is a little old but truth doesn't change!
The question remains then, what does he have against Amputees?
He heals cancer etc, and other ailments, what has he got against Amputees?
It is a simple question, there is no recorded incident of someone getting his/her leg/arm back...
Yet again thank you Jesus Christ God Almighty for sending me this video of evidence of your impossible to debate holy high high intelligence and truth, and of course faith, pardon the pun🤭🙏🙏🏿🙏🏽🙏🏻🙏🏼🙌🙌🙌
if you are determine with pledged to struggle about your creator it is not a joke who made you called God
The latter
Uncontrolled desire is how sin becomes destructive, not only against you but others as a whole.
The concept of love come from God. the commandment love they neighbor as they self is simple. its the practice and ones on desire that is in conflict.
Then add what Paul said was the greatest gift, it was not love, he said charity towards others, either believer or pagan nonbelievers. its not up for debate or our interpretation. we simply have to act on it. then see what the results are.
You are ignoring the other side of the situation. A father doesn't have control over his children. If they choose to go off and suffer for eternity, that is ultimately THEIR choice, not the father's choice. God cannot "let" people suffer for eternity, because he does not control people. They have a choice.
C. S. Lewis probably put it best. "There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.'"
God is a solid facts answere is your beings with us
Wow that's what I do all the time...how do I know I'm right about what I believe especially when I talk w/ people who ask me thise kinds of questions..I'm I speaking on behalf of God?? or some religious institution??? there is after all a very vast...difference..to say the least!!! & we owe it to those we speak w/ to know the difference..!!! I may not always be right...but I know who...is!! I dont know everything...but i know who does 1Jn5:10-13.. & i try very carefully not to inject any institutional...slant or bias into the sacred text of holy writ..so I'm w/ you Mr. Lennox...& thx a ton for your great testimony among.." intellects".." intelligensia" " academics & the like
If you all haven't seen a documentary called... It's worse than you think... By revelations of Jesus Christ ministries... I suggest you do... All praise and glory to the most high Jesus Christ
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:34 kjv
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Luke 19:27 kjv
I believe that during the time of Jesus, He was bringing His kingdom to earth and Peter may have been the first servant. Jesus' kingdom was not yet set up on earth.
When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
John 6:15 kjv
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
Matthew 12:28 kjv
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
John 18:36 kjv
I believe Jesus was not a rebel, so He did not allow Peter to fight for Him and He then healed the priests ear.
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
1 Samuel 15:23 kjv
The way I see it is that we are a game of chess. We're God's chess pieces, and God does what he wants with us, places us where he wants. If we're honest with the question of "If there is a God, why...?" Because we're his toys. I probably could go as far as to say that He allowed (maybe even created on purpose) Evil to be as it is and to be his opponent in this game of chess. Now I understand why they say God is amoral because he can do what he wants. Anything we consider immoral God can do.
greenXpieces
You place God as immoral in this supposition & then conclude He can be. I have had these very thoughts. That said, they are based on a lie.
You are not a toy or a game to God. We play with toys & games to pass the time, God exists perfect & without needs. A need for entertainment is a need. Thus, not an aspect of God.
You are not equal to God, but he does not treat you like a toy or a game. That is the Ancient Greek gods/goddesses. All ideas of gods are not the same. God is nothing like those gods.
I suggest you study what Christians mean when we say God, instead of looking to how you feel God should be. You are thinking & that is at least good.
It's as good as you can get.
You really need to listen to Michael Rood
27:18 to 30:15 ❤️💯👏
You talk about 3 days Ministry
reasons we trats Jesus as illitrates person like not all human beings
human beings
Shoot the audio is soo bad