Blackjack Playing Deviations Guide (Advanced Card Counting)
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- In this video you will learn how to play blackjack with playing deviations. Playing deviations are really effective when you are card counting and can increase your overall profits and EV. These deviations are 18 new optimal ways to play basic strategy and they are named illustrious 18. For more card counting tips & tricks, make sure to drop a like and subcribe to the channel!
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please provide the chart
I had the old MIT deviation chart and it had more deviations. I also remember a deviation for doubling down on blackjack 21, but I somehow lost the chart and the book, I only have the DVD. It's not in the DVD. I want to know that deviation. Would you please send that one my way, if you are aware what it is?
Thanks for the videos. I've been teaching myself how to count. If I'm going to gamble I'm going to play to win! The deviation chart will help me out big time.
Yes deviation chart helps a lot! more blackjack tips coming soon on the channel;)
if you’re still looking at it as gambling then you’re going to fail, you’re making money
Hi, I am myself thinking of doing this. Since you posted this comment 2 years ago, I was wondering wether you could tell me if it has come to anything and wether it is indeed worth it. Thanks a lot
@@bibbomedia2036 its too bad the casino's by me are cheating. By sticking the aces together they are reducing the number of blackjacks therefore making the game unbeatable.
intense content BlackjackHacker. I smashed that thumbs up on your video. Keep up the brilliant work.
nice video on Deviations. Flaming thumb like.
Man I wanna really thank you nice video
No problem , there to help you perfect ypur blackjack skills!
How can we find deviation chart, I searched but I couldnt
@@jyeshta8357 Type on google blackjack illustrious 18 chart
I don't understand why any of these deviations would "trigger" on a true count of zero. That's an un-touched deck; it seems like that's exactly what basic strategy would cover. Then as you *deviated* from that "starting" condition, the playing deviations would trigger.
Is it possible you're "off by one" here, and that it should be "higher than index" rather than "index or higher"?
You're spot on, either basic strategy is wrong or this wrong, can't be both correct.
@@d4ve19 The 0 index is correct in saying hit 12 v 4 -0-. However, some are wrong such as stand 12 v 2 at +4 - It is actually +3
I have a question what do you mean by -2 or higher ? Higher in negativity or positivity ?
-1 is higher than -2, so -3 would be lower
At least that is what I think he’s saying
Can someone please explain why some of the deviations start at a true count of 0 (like 16 vs 10 and 12 vs 4 in the table)? At TC=0 you should always be playing optimally using basic strategy as the probabilities for every card is the same, as if you were not counting. It doesn't make sense to deviate from Basic strategy at a TC of 0. There is another comment concerning this point in this comment section but the problem wasn't solved there. This inconsistency makes me question the credibility of the whole chart. Thanks for your help!
When you deviate from basic strategy you use TC or running count.The deviation of 16vs10 is at any positive running count.
Yeah, I think the chart is written in a confusing way. I've heard it taught that on any positive running count, it's stand on 16 vs 10. So instead of "at 0 or above" it should say "anything above 0".
What i would like to know is if the deviations effect the option of surrender. I have always assumed that the deviations are for a situation where surrender is not an option, and as long as you can surrender you should. But I would like to verify that.
Basic strategy will tell you optimal least bad decision to make. 16 v 10 the dealer is likely to make a hand and we are likely to bust so this one of those situations where both outcomes are bad - if we stand dealer is likely to win, if we hit we are likely to bust and dealer still wins. I haven't worked out the maths behind it but would imagine that the "correct" decision of hitting is only very negligibly better than standing. So a small deviation in the true count will be enough to swing the "correct" decision the other way. Of course the actual true count is not likely to start from will not be a nice while number as presented here, it will be something like above 0.125 not 0.
@@bensanterre9478 I've seen material listed that shows surrender deviations, it basically just adds to the dealer up cards that you should surrender, i.e. BS says surrender a 15 to a 10 only but deviations say stand a 15 against a 10 at any negative running count, you should also surrender a 15 against 9 at a TC of +2 or higher and surrender a 16 against an 8 @ TC +4 or higher
@@dannyneff4195 you are on the right track. 15v10 should surrender at a positive count, but hit, instead of surrender, at any negative running count. Additionally, if surrender isn't an option, you should hit 15v10, unless the TC is 4+, then you should stand. You are correct in saying that a 15v9 surrenders at a +2 count
Are the deviations based on soft and hard totals? Or just hard? If so, are there any deviations for soft hands?
What’s the bottom part mean when it shows -1/-3?
how do you figure out the running count though when the dealer discards the top card? so that means your running count is 23% chance that it is still 0 and the discarded card was neutral. and equal chances that it is +1 or -1 off with 38.5% each? So do you assume the deck is starting with 0?
You're overthinking it and the way you're trying to count is confusing to me.
When the dealer "burns" a card, they're just discarding one card off the top of the decks remaining to be played. Why the house does this I don't know, but I do know that it has the same effect as any other card coming out of play, it either adds one, or subtracts one, or does nothing at all as is the case with 7's 8's and 9's to the true count. Burning a card means they're just getting rid of one for the lulz
You should never assume that the dealer starts the game with a running count of zero because basic mathematics tells us this is literally not the case. If they're using eight decks of cards in the shoe at a total of 52 cards per deck (standard), that's 416 cards in total that are a part of the shoe. At most casinos, the house typically burns a card every time they switch dealers at a table, which can be quite frequent. So you can have a game where they burn multiple cards, and this constantly adds or subtracts from your running total which is what our true count conversion heavily depends on. You need to count every card, but learn to ignore the neutral cards in a sense if that makes any, well, sense.
There's a Howcast video on Blackjack Hi Lo counting you should check out to help make the explanation of these things easier. Sounds like you're still new to this. You seem to me to be looking at it purely from a mathematical on paper perspective whereas you need to be physically doing the work of counting the cards as the game goes along (+1, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, etc.), then taking your running count and dividing it by the number of decks remaining (which in most cases players learn to estimate it).
Does it matter whether it's hi-lo card counting or the KO counting system?
link to the chart ?
quality video mate, could you do a video on getting the true count, like getting it from quarter, half, full decks etc.
Thanks! And sure I will make a video about True Count soon!
Divide running count by the number of decks left in the shoe
Great video man! You got right to it fast, and the information I got is definitely gonna be useful. I have a question tho: How were the chart made? I don’t see a lot of people using it, so I just want to know how good it’s credibility is.
Thanks man! And yes the reason because not a lot of people use it is because it is more advanced. I do not know exactly who created the chart but it has been proven by many card counters that deviations can increase your card counting edge
If I'm not mistaken this is called the illustrious 18 and they are listed in Stanford Wong's book Professional Blackjack, I'm not sure who actually created it but if I had to guess I would say Thorp in beat the dealer
You are missing the A8 vs 6 deviation
Where can I find more play deviations???
Follow these and you’ll be good
this deviation guide is for 6 deck so if you want to play in a casino with 8 deck is different
You have to make that chart bigger, so it is more user friendly
Hey man, are these 18 deviations based on 4/6/8 deck S17 or H17 games?
6deck
It's true count so number of decks used is irrelevant. They answered to someone else that it's S17.
It does not make sense why you would stand on 16 v 10 when the count is 0 but not under basic strategy... can someone explain that?
If the count is zero or negative then the correct play is to hit. If the count is positive then the correct play is to stand.
@@indianapatsfan but shouldn't you play basic strategy when the count is 0?
@@TripDadLife yes, you play basic strategy at 0. There are no deviations at 0. Basic strategy says to hit when you have 16 against a dealer 10.
@@indianapatsfan hence my question... it says at 2:40 there is a deviation. It says stay when the count is 0 with a 16 v 10.
@@TripDadLife ok, I think I see what he's saying. If the running count is exactly 0 you should stand. This is really splitting hairs. If you're running count is that close to zero you've got the minimum bet out there anyway. The odds difference between hitting and standing here is so miniscule. If it's a game with really good rules you're surrendering here anyway.
Hey Bud! Great info, just bought Playing blackjack as a business from Revere. What is your betting strategy depending on TC?
Hey there! I like to use the 1-8 betting strategy , so i would bet 1 unit at TC of +1 or lower, 2 units at a TC of +2, 4 units at a TC of +3 and 8 units at a TC of +4 or higher
BlackjackHacker Awesome! Thanks
not sure what the “*” says under the chart for the second number in the index? Anyone have an answer?
the * refers to a game where the dealer hits on soft 17 so its not really important because whe always want to play a game where the dealer stands on soft 17 because it increases a bit our edge as card counters
Hi can you please email me deviations play for double deck blackjack dealer hit 17 split any fist two card double down after splitting no surrender
Good thing about the 18 is that you can use it to escape the heat. By varying your play vis a vis basic strategy makes you look like a degenerate gambler..until you win too much and get kicked out....lol
can you use deviations if your not card counting?
No. Its all based on what the true count is. I'll recommend a free app called Blackjack All In One in google play store. I use it almost everyday and its really helped my basic strategy and now card counting and it even helps with deviations. Ohh and its free except for the simulation part. Check it out
you can but it won’t help you
Thank you brother. Subscribed. How did you learn deviations? Just memorize a few a day until you had them down?
Thanks for the sub! and yes its just to memorize by heart and a it of practice and youll see in a couple of days or weeks your going to know all the deviations by heart
@@bibbomedia2036 Thanks for responding buddy. ; ) Much appreciated. Tell me please, I totally get basic strategy and memorize the charts, and practice counting... but deviations vex me. I d/l the illustrious 18, and also learned to always buy Insurance if the TC is +3, but the deviations charts confuse me. I guess they are showing how to vary basic strategy based on the count? It just hasn't really clicked yet, the columns, etc. I don't know what's TC and what's cards. If you have any thoughts to share, thank you in advance.
is this for S17 or H17?
for soft 17
@@bibbomedia2036 OK, thx
@@bibbomedia2036 Is it for 8 decks or 6?
Link to chart??