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Crowbar is a reference to killing one of the robins. Alot of the Fandom is theorizing Victor becoming Zsasz- I personally disagree; more likely he become Emperor Penguin. Penguin wouldn't accidentally stumble onto the batcave as its in a different borough you can see it in the beginning of the episode( under or near Wayne industry, also in background you can see gcpd and the tower with the bat-light) the theory with Sophia imaging Theo was a good one- some theorize that since he's obsessed with power over ones psyche that he might end up being Scarecrow.
A lot of people people miss this, but in the pilot, when Oz meets Victor for the first time, and after shooting at his friends, he accidentally shoots the trunk of his Maserati, he looks down at the bullet hole and says to Vic "look what you made me do". Vic said the same thing after killing Squid.
People will justify anything in their head if they think its for their own "right reasons". Vic didnt have to kill Squid,but for the life he is in,he justified murder because it wouldve hurt the gang or atleast have been an annoying headache. Just like later on when Vic tells Oz what happened..Oz says .." it gets easier". Oz has killed so many people at this point,he justifies it everytime because in his head its for a right reason. Showing how far gone these people are. Vic is going down that road and theres no turning back. He couldve mentioned the Squid situation to Oz again in the apartment scene,when Oz asked him what he was talking about. Oz asked.. "so do we got a problem"..and Vic just says "No." He already mmade the decision he was going to kill him. Im assuming he saw how distracted Oz was with his moms situation..and didnt want to burden him. But that was his opportunity to give the decision making to Oz. Maybe Oz couldve actually used Squid. But man...Such a great show!!
I worked hospice for awhile. It was policy to allow the patient to believe what kept them less agitated. If they asked for a deceased family member, we would tell them they stepped out to do errands. Now we wouldn't feed into it, like Vic was doing (bringing the deceased person up), but Oz is definitely causing pain every time he corrects her.
I liked how they lingered on the blood and neck injury when Vic shot the guy. It helped emphasize the severity of the act having Vic doing his first murder. Like he crossed a line for himself and the show lingered on the ugliness so that it wasnt just another gangland shooting. It was personally traumatic for vic
@ brother ong he lit a mother and son on fire, shot a guy cause he felt insulted and is blatantly manipulating a innocent kid who had nothing to lose while also being responsible for Sofia being locked up for 10 years while also allowing falcone to get away with murder over the years O_O
@@JacksGameReviews Damn bro… almost as if this a show is revolving around the worst crime in Gotham after the events of the first movie… nobody is truly innocent in this show except for MAYBE Vic and even he got himself involved with theft and robbery.
@@JacksGameReviews none of that changes the fact that he loves his mother. ultimately he still shows humanity even if he's objectively a terrible person... and watching somebody you love suffer is terrible no matter how bad you are.
Notice how Oz gives the gang leaders regular tin beer and not fancy alcohol like champagne. Kind of shows how the gangs are the "working man" of Gotham (like what Oz was talking about in his speech) and not the elite.
This was a great scene. Also all the henchmen cracked their beers after their local boss did but Oz cracked his first symbolizing that he's the boss of them all. Also Oz literally and figuratively brought the power back to Crown Point.
@@shannoncurry2037 I'm worried she kills Vic and captures the mom. I don't think Vic is going to let her hurt the mom with out a fight and Sophia doesn't know how much Vic means to Oz so it makes sense for Sophia to kill Vic but she has to capture the mom alive to use as bait.
@@emmanuelu the only plausible proof is the guy letting him into her room. His words with the doctor at Arkham could have all been in her head as well. But I do believe that was also proof. Just not solid proof unlike him being let in to her room. That to me is solid evidence.
My Grandpa, mother and myself took care of my Grandmother for 10 years when she had Alzheimer’s in the ‘80s. Those scenes with Oz and his Mom really hit home. Grandpa dressed, washed, and did everything for her. Including doing her makeup. (He even did it for her funeral) I can’t wait to see what happens with Oswald and his mother these last few episodes to see how he reacts. PS- I have a feeling one of the last deaths we may see this season is Oz killing Eve after he finds out she told Sofia where they were. Oz wrecked her world a few times here BUT nothing destroys people like losing their parents.
I helped take care of my grandmother who was suffering with Dementia amongst other issues for a few years before she died last year. I agree that those scenes are just bang-on and brutally real. I had a conversation EXACTLY like that with my grandma where Oz's mother sort of collapses against the door frame giving up and having that moment of clarity in conversation. My grandma didn't want me to end things for her but wanted me to not treat her like she'd lost her mind or lie to her ever. Just keep being honest and keep trying to be real with her so I did until the day she died. I'd be surprised if somebody on the writing team didn't have a personal experience that helped them write this.
Sofias doctor is very much real. Last episode I believe, one of the henchman let him in her room. He opened the door, doctor walked in, the henchmen started at him. Then closed the door.
It never occurred to me to suspect that the doctor may have been a figment of her imagination following the years at Arkham. It adds up in that she wanted, especially when she got out, literally anyone she could trust and depend on. Even if it was the loathsome Oz who was the direct cause of her ongoing pain and suffering.
While I don't think Vic is in immediate danger, I'm afraid that Penguin's talk with him about how they're going to tell stories about them was foreshadowing. There will be stories about Pengiun, but nothing about Victor Aguilar. I don't think he's a comic character. I think they're going to use him as a way to make us fully see Pengiun as a villain, by turning on him.
@@zoddmark5873 oh I was saying you’re correct on Vic not being a comic character. Some thought he was maybe Victor Zazz after he cut Alberto’s finger off and some of the skin from his chest. But according to what I googled he is original. Although he could adopt that. But if something is needed that makes Oz become someone we all will hate after all (Colin Farrell said that would happen. Penguin will have us hating him) it could be Victor being offed by him cause his mom was caught. The only other way is if Oz causes Sofia to head back to Arkham
I would just like to reiterate how fantastic Colin Farrells performance is....Everything in the show depends on him pulling it off and it being believable...If he didn't the show would come crumbling down like a house of cards....Thanks to Colins performance it reinforces eveybody elses and it makes the whole show work.....Bravo.
Don't you love how you go from sympathising with Oz as he tries to care for his Mum in on scene to watching him intimidate and torture a guy with pliers in the next.
Watching someone fade away to dementia is a painful thing. All you can do is try to make them comfortable, and... when they go, it is both painful and a blessing, you miss them but are glad they are no longer trapped in their own mind. It's bad, every way you look at it.
@@Lucascabronwho picked her up after she passed out after the Maronis ambushed Oz? Where was she when she was recovering? Whose clothes was she wearing when she left the place where she was recovering? She imagined ALL of that?
Random I know, this episode hurt me deep. I have a septum piercing, that was the worst pain I've felt in my life and I've had shards of glass pulled out of me. That scene with the pliers to the septum hurt to the core. I had a zit under my septum ring once and about cried when I bumped it. So pliers to that area of the nose I can feel the pain. Also I love my momma and wouldn't be able to accept the world when she goes.
If you're referring to joker and jason todd then its not like the comic at all since its different characters. Might as well say its all connected because theyre on earth
The truth is that Vic... and his evolution with oz, has been quite brilliant and this. Leaving him as a simple henchwoman, he is really sincere and with oz. It helps to understand it and to be a working parent who lost and has now been able to take care of his boss a little more. It would be crazy if it continued in The Batman 2.
Eve and his mother are definitely dead. I could see Vic surviving and being ruthless in the end but I also feel like Oz might blame him for getting his mom caught. Vic could go either way
@@cjmk5923 yeah I could see this being the last time she's on screen, obviously she wasn't a major major character but she did have a little arc going there and this seems to have completed it. It also sort of reinforces kind of the folly of how Oswald operates because you have somebody who's like ride or die loyal dude seems like everybody in her life but especially her girls above all else and through the just sheer mountain of lies and manipulations you created this space for this person to betray you. Like you know how this woman operates either you should have not messed with her or come clean with her but he thinks he can worm his way out of anything.
I think it really hurts Oz for his mom to think he's his dad, especially because she thinks it due to the circumstances they are living in. It's too much for him to deal with. Plus I think he believes he can fix the situation and that's the solution.
Vic is a full-blown thug out here now. If Sofia kills Vic, Oz will go to war. If his mother is killed, all of Gotham will burn. Great use of the crowbar to break into both apartments. This is a great show. I could go for a can of Gotham Gold right now.
I noticed that Sofia pocketed the cigar cutter from Oz's desk. I bet she plans to get rid of Salvatore and use the cutter to cut his finger of and get her brother's ring back from him. I also believe that just as this show is a continuance from The Batman that the next Batman movie will continue from the events in this show. For this reason I believe that both Sofia and Oz will survive this show and interact with Batman. They are too good not to. There has to be deaths and unfortunately Mrs Cobb and Vic are the obvious candidates for that. Loving your reviews. Keep 'em coming.
The Penguin is an undercover Toastmaster. That was probably his DTM speech. I felt inspired to do something, but I don’t know what… lol Great video you guys!
"If you can't do it, I'll go to Rex..." After she said that, Vic jumped in real quick to stop her from continuing. I think Vic might actually know more about her relationship with Rex than Oz (or maybe even his pops) knew. If both his brothers were younger than him, they may not have actually been "full" brothers, if you get what I'm saying.
My fantasy next episode 7 is Oz's backstory told by his mother. I see the doctor using hypnosis to bring it out. I also see Oz keeping his promise to his mother ,and just before he does ,she's going to say "no I feel better now ".
14:30 is why Oz wouldn't let Victor continue the fantasy that his brothers were still alive. He knows his mother's pride about being sane and herself means a lot to her.
I feel like this show is tailor made for you guys. Like, I love ypur reactions to everything but it feels like this type of shows is right up your ally. Anything that's like Rated R type of content seems like a great fit for you guys to react to.
I'm so glad that Oz isn't getting overshadowed by the other villains. In too many superhero TV shows, the "protagonist" is always second fiddle to the side character. Here Oz is a badass, ruthless and smart as hell. This is such a good show.
Sofia has more in common with Vic and Frances than Oz. She let Eve go because she knew Oz was manipulating her. Frances is mentally ill and Vic didn't really do anything to her aside from save her while trying to save Oz with the car. It may come down to whether or not Vic rats out Oz, and if he does, he'll probably have a good reason for it.
Victor helped Oz with moving and desecrating her brother’s corpse, not to mention aiding Oz in shifting the blame for it. But we’ll see how merciful Sofia’s feeling soon enough.
seeing a crowbar in the bat verse is never a good thing. 😕 if they wanted to update what batman was doing or where he's at, they would. rather, my mind is going to what else is happening while oz is dealing w/this drug war as they're not the only ones who exist in the city, and it's a big city.
how did you not hear the noise of the crowbar /door at the end... even i was like wtf ..... lol but holy moly.... it's still amazing and .... awesome series and woo !
This is one of the best series I’ve ever seen. Up there with 24 , GOT , Walking Dead , Banshee and Spartacus (but not quite La Femme Nikita my own favorite 😍). Colin Farrell is fantastic, wasn’t really a fan of his but I am now. I really hope there are more series
@NikkiStevenReact Sofia had the crowbar that Sal had when they broke into his apartment. That's what she used to break into their place in Crown Point.
Eve with no make-up wig - looks like Oz's mom - that's good casting if intentional - I predict - Vic beaten to near death but alive enough to let Oz know Sofia took his Mom. Vic prob die in Oz's arms. Just a thought. Hoping they do something 100x better - this show is FIRE!!
All I've got are facts. The show is called The Penguin. Colin Ferrell is a major motion picture star. He is also an executive producer. This is a one time limited series. There is a Batman 2 coming. Colin Ferrell said everyone is going to hate The Penguin when this series ends. Sounds a lot like Penguin is the villian for the next Batman, and very unlikely anybody they made us care about at all gets out of this series alive or at a minimum locked away in Arkham.
I really think oz is gonna allow his mom to be unalived because shes already got dementia and old and thatll be the turning point where he goes full villian
Of course, Sophia won't kill Penguin's mother. She had her revenge on her family. She will kidnap the mother, then take her to a meeting point and the penguin will then be allowed to watch as Sophia's new partner kills her by burning her alive. In this way, he avenges his family, which the penguin has burned. By the way, we could actually get a Batman villain from the comics here with Victor and we get an origin story of Victor Szazs here. Szazs is a psychopath who gives himself a scar after every murder. His favorite tools are knives. I already mentioned the Scarecrow possibility with the therapist last episode. The Batman is also an origin story somewhere, so why not fabricate even more enemy origins? All opponents that Batman will have to deal with later. It is possible that Victor becomes Victor Szazs, even if so far there is not much to be said for it except the first name. But it may well be that dealing with the penguin at a young age makes him become this psycho.
@@seanstinchfield-mp2xm Yes, he can rename himself. Or this name he has right now is wrong. In any case, he delights in Sophia's fears and tries to control her and be close to her. I don't think he's treating her, I think he's nurturing her fears.
Crowbar is a reference to killing one of the robins. Alot of the Fandom is theorizing Victor becoming Zsasz- I personally disagree; more likely he become Emperor Penguin. Penguin wouldn't accidentally stumble onto the batcave as its in a different borough you can see it in the beginning of the episode( under or near Wayne industry, also in background you can see gcpd and the tower with the bat-light) the theory with Sophia imaging Theo was a good one- some theorize that since he's obsessed with power over ones psyche that he might end up being Scarecrow.
Whatever "good", "merciful", "ok" guy within himself no matter how miniscule is gonna completely die off with francis if she is killed. Right now vic n his mom grounds him to whatever kindness still resides in oz's heart, after his mom m vic are gone he has nothing left to lose in terms of any emotional connection he has..the only thing that will remain is his "step over/on top of anyone u need to" ambition to climb to the top. Without having anyone he needs to care for or look after, he will be free to act however the fuck he wants...the 1st domino of betrayal will be star selling them out, and if her snitching gets his mother or vic killed!?! Hes gonna lose his fucking mind. Those 3 are his "anchors" right now, star,victor, francis and the show is setting them ALL up to die.. Which is how i believe oz will go from "sympathetic oz" to "merciless penguin with nothing and nobody left to lose".. without his "anchors" oz is simply "crazy adrift"..
Of course, I could be wrong, but I believe that because of her being betrayed by Oz, and sent to Arkham, Sofia, with the help of Dr. Rush, is going to have Vic suffer the same fate.
Should've been smarter for Victor to make Squid's death looked like committed by Maronis, then let his body displayed for the entire Crown Point to see.
No that is not the group! The Dark Knight group was the left over of the Falcon's group, so from like the start of the show. These episodes truly get better and better! For me this is the first time that I said that this is the best episode yet. What an awesome start it had lol. I miss the days when TV series had 24 episodes, but people hated all the filler episodes ugh He might kill his mother to put her out of her misery or leave her for them to kill to stay safe and tell himself that is what his mother would've wanted
Vic shooting Squid and then struggling with it reminded me so much of Jesse Pinkman shooting Gale. It was the end of sweet silly Jesse and I think this is the end of innocent Vic.
I'm stressed because every single character in this series that's not Oz is 100% expendable and can be killed off any time. Would prefer Sofia and Vic survive, but neither are guaranteed. The moms death I fear is required for the Penguin origin story to complete. I'd almost expect Oz to kill Vic himself for not protecting his mom.
Said it before and I'll say it again: Vic is gonna be this bat universe 's Red Hood, right? I mean, look at his bike helmet and that brown jacket, and the crowbar appears again? And now he uses a gun. Too much of a coincidence, just saying.
At least up to this point it seems like they're just paralleling the characters. But with that said I would very much like it for Vic to make it out alive and ideally out of Gotham.
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Crowbar is a reference to killing one of the robins. Alot of the Fandom is theorizing Victor becoming Zsasz- I personally disagree; more likely he become Emperor Penguin. Penguin wouldn't accidentally stumble onto the batcave as its in a different borough you can see it in the beginning of the episode( under or near Wayne industry, also in background you can see gcpd and the tower with the bat-light) the theory with Sophia imaging Theo was a good one- some theorize that since he's obsessed with power over ones psyche that he might end up being Scarecrow.
A lot of people people miss this, but in the pilot, when Oz meets Victor for the first time, and after shooting at his friends, he accidentally shoots the trunk of his Maserati, he looks down at the bullet hole and says to Vic "look what you made me do". Vic said the same thing after killing Squid.
I noticed when Vic was talking to Squid, some of the word choices sounded something like Oz would say.
Wow I completely missed that
I caught that. I thought, wow he sounds just like Oz now.
People will justify anything in their head if they think its for their own "right reasons". Vic didnt have to kill Squid,but for the life he is in,he justified murder because it wouldve hurt the gang or atleast have been an annoying headache. Just like later on when Vic tells Oz what happened..Oz says .." it gets easier". Oz has killed so many people at this point,he justifies it everytime because in his head its for a right reason. Showing how far gone these people are. Vic is going down that road and theres no turning back. He couldve mentioned the Squid situation to Oz again in the apartment scene,when Oz asked him what he was talking about. Oz asked.. "so do we got a problem"..and Vic just says "No." He already mmade the decision he was going to kill him. Im assuming he saw how distracted Oz was with his moms situation..and didnt want to burden him. But that was his opportunity to give the decision making to Oz. Maybe Oz couldve actually used Squid. But man...Such a great show!!
Like the master, like his apprentice
9:59 Vic was actually doing the right thing, correcting people with dementia only makes them more agitated and confused
See I have heard this as well. Seems reactors are split on agreeing with this strategy
I worked hospice for awhile. It was policy to allow the patient to believe what kept them less agitated. If they asked for a deceased family member, we would tell them they stepped out to do errands. Now we wouldn't feed into it, like Vic was doing (bringing the deceased person up), but Oz is definitely causing pain every time he corrects her.
I think you're just supposed to play into it, not encourage it. Bringing up the brother was probably not what he should be doing.
that was a crowbar in sophia's hand. she used it to break in to the apartment. that was the noise that victor heard when he was dancing.
just like her father, she's a "hands-on" kind of bad guy 😄
Literally the same crowbar and the same SFX that was used when Sal and Sophia broke into Oz's apartment.
I’ve watched every episode like 3 times. I’m completely enamored with Oz’s accent. Colin did a hell of a job. I’m too damn invested in this show.
The accent is absolutely insane + the acting keeps me hooked fr
For context, Lewy body dementia (what Oz says Francis has) is what Robin Williams was diagnosed with before he took his own life.
I liked how they lingered on the blood and neck injury when Vic shot the guy. It helped emphasize the severity of the act having Vic doing his first murder. Like he crossed a line for himself and the show lingered on the ugliness so that it wasnt just another gangland shooting. It was personally traumatic for vic
@@werdle92 I don’t know if I’m just imagining it, but when Oz told Vic “it gets easier,” it seemed to me he said that in a sad, not comforting, way.
Penguin is so good at manipulation that even i feel bad for the scumbag lmao
@@JacksGameReviews or maybe u should realize that every person has both good and bad side
@ brother ong he lit a mother and son on fire, shot a guy cause he felt insulted and is blatantly manipulating a innocent kid who had nothing to lose while also being responsible for Sofia being locked up for 10 years while also allowing falcone to get away with murder over the years
O_O
@@JacksGameReviews Damn bro… almost as if this a show is revolving around the worst crime in Gotham after the events of the first movie… nobody is truly innocent in this show except for MAYBE Vic and even he got himself involved with theft and robbery.
@@JacksGameReviewsyou new to tv shows about villains?
@@JacksGameReviews none of that changes the fact that he loves his mother. ultimately he still shows humanity even if he's objectively a terrible person... and watching somebody you love suffer is terrible no matter how bad you are.
Notice how Oz gives the gang leaders regular tin beer and not fancy alcohol like champagne. Kind of shows how the gangs are the "working man" of Gotham (like what Oz was talking about in his speech) and not the elite.
This was a great scene. Also all the henchmen cracked their beers after their local boss did but Oz cracked his first symbolizing that he's the boss of them all. Also Oz literally and figuratively brought the power back to Crown Point.
@@forex_shark6042 Man the symbolism is great in this series. I didn't put that last bit together that he achieved both simultaneously.
This episode left me STRESSED.
Me too!
The best shows are the ones you can’t predict. People are coming up with theories left and right but nobody knows for sure! 😂
Still feels like there's a loop/cycle to it.
Sofia was holding a crowbar at the end…Vic’s about to get the Jason Todd treatment
I think she only captures Vic and Frances. Then, Maroni forces Oz to take him to his Lair, Oz kills Maroni, then pursues Sofia for his mother.
Frances gets burned alive with Oz listening on the phone.
@@shannoncurry2037 I'm worried she kills Vic and captures the mom. I don't think Vic is going to let her hurt the mom with out a fight and Sophia doesn't know how much Vic means to Oz so it makes sense for Sophia to kill Vic but she has to capture the mom alive to use as bait.
@timstarks173 that makes sense, eye for eye.
@@shannoncurry2037you saw the preview for the next episode 😂
Nikki is the only reactor to mention the Mork & Mindy remark. 👍🏽
Crew of Blind Wave as well
Badd Medicine did as well
8:00 people have infact interacted with him. Someone let him into her room before she killed viti. The doctor at Arkham interacted with him too.
@@emmanuelu the only plausible proof is the guy letting him into her room.
His words with the doctor at Arkham could have all been in her head as well.
But I do believe that was also proof. Just not solid proof unlike him being let in to her room. That to me is solid evidence.
@@madridaztlan7 Another one too is Julian is the person she called to come pick her up at the end of episode 3 and she woke up in his office.
I do hope they continue with this Gotham universe.
Yea, with The Batman 2
My Grandpa, mother and myself took care of my Grandmother for 10 years when she had Alzheimer’s in the ‘80s. Those scenes with Oz and his Mom really hit home. Grandpa dressed, washed, and did everything for her. Including doing her makeup. (He even did it for her funeral) I can’t wait to see what happens with Oswald and his mother these last few episodes to see how he reacts. PS- I have a feeling one of the last deaths we may see this season is Oz killing Eve after he finds out she told Sofia where they were. Oz wrecked her world a few times here BUT nothing destroys people like losing their parents.
I helped take care of my grandmother who was suffering with Dementia amongst other issues for a few years before she died last year. I agree that those scenes are just bang-on and brutally real. I had a conversation EXACTLY like that with my grandma where Oz's mother sort of collapses against the door frame giving up and having that moment of clarity in conversation. My grandma didn't want me to end things for her but wanted me to not treat her like she'd lost her mind or lie to her ever. Just keep being honest and keep trying to be real with her so I did until the day she died.
I'd be surprised if somebody on the writing team didn't have a personal experience that helped them write this.
Sofias doctor is very much real. Last episode I believe, one of the henchman let him in her room. He opened the door, doctor walked in, the henchmen started at him. Then closed the door.
It never occurred to me to suspect that the doctor may have been a figment of her imagination following the years at Arkham. It adds up in that she wanted, especially when she got out, literally anyone she could trust and depend on. Even if it was the loathsome Oz who was the direct cause of her ongoing pain and suffering.
While I don't think Vic is in immediate danger, I'm afraid that Penguin's talk with him about how they're going to tell stories about them was foreshadowing. There will be stories about Pengiun, but nothing about Victor Aguilar. I don't think he's a comic character. I think they're going to use him as a way to make us fully see Pengiun as a villain, by turning on him.
Correct. I was curious on if Vic was in the comics. Nope. He’s an original character for the show.
@@bigjoeofthe707 Not correct yet, just a prediction. I've been caught off guard in this show multiple times already, so...
@@zoddmark5873 oh I was saying you’re correct on Vic not being a comic character. Some thought he was maybe Victor Zazz after he cut Alberto’s finger off and some of the skin from his chest. But according to what I googled he is original. Although he could adopt that. But if something is needed that makes Oz become someone we all will hate after all (Colin Farrell said that would happen. Penguin will have us hating him) it could be Victor being offed by him cause his mom was caught. The only other way is if Oz causes Sofia to head back to Arkham
This show fucking delivers every time. And it almost delivers me a cardiac arrest, also each effing time.
Oz's speeches are always motivating 🔥🔥🔥
I would just like to reiterate how fantastic Colin Farrells performance is....Everything in the show depends on him pulling it off and it being believable...If he didn't the show would come crumbling down like a house of cards....Thanks to Colins performance it reinforces eveybody elses and it makes the whole show work.....Bravo.
that pipe in the end looks like a crowbar. Vick is kinda the jason todd version of robin to the penguin, which makes sophia the joker with a crowbar
already love the thumbnail
I like the both of them so much that I can’t pick one or the other one
Oh Vic I’m afraid for you… damn. I think she’ll kidnap the mom but Vic’s fate isn’t looking too good. Leave that baby alone! 😆
Been waiting patiently on y’all’s reaction! This show is so peak!
You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work
So right about having this as the official Batman universe
Don't you love how you go from sympathising with Oz as he tries to care for his Mum in on scene to watching him intimidate and torture a guy with pliers in the next.
It was a crow bar
I love yalls reaction updates videos. Thank yall for the update ❤
I refuse to watch any reviews on this show unless it's you 2!!! So I'll wait till I get off n watch i just came to leave the comment 😂
Watching someone fade away to dementia is a painful thing. All you can do is try to make them comfortable, and... when they go, it is both painful and a blessing, you miss them but are glad they are no longer trapped in their own mind. It's bad, every way you look at it.
Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤
I had the same thought about this show-I never thought I'd be in tears over this show.
Like the Penguin, the shows killing it
julian is real. one of her men let him into her bedroom when she was getting dressed before the scene when she offed Vinnie.
@@kenyattacoleman7284 And he rescued her in episode 4
He also interacted with a guard at the hospital
@@goby1764 In Arkham he was real, but these scenes of him outside Arkham, maybe it's her imagination, but it's just a theory, It has some holes
Exactly
@@Lucascabronwho picked her up after she passed out after the Maronis ambushed Oz? Where was she when she was recovering? Whose clothes was she wearing when she left the place where she was recovering? She imagined ALL of that?
The scene between Sofia and Eve had me on edge! Nooooo, don’t kill Eve! 👀😂😂
Random I know, this episode hurt me deep. I have a septum piercing, that was the worst pain I've felt in my life and I've had shards of glass pulled out of me. That scene with the pliers to the septum hurt to the core. I had a zit under my septum ring once and about cried when I bumped it. So pliers to that area of the nose I can feel the pain. Also I love my momma and wouldn't be able to accept the world when she goes.
There's no way Vic and/or Francis live through the season 😢
I think Vic will realize how bad Oz is so will betray or at least lose his loyalty to Oz. I think he's on a redemption arc, not a tragic one.
Sophia was holding a prybar/crowbar. Comic book lure in play for that scene.
If you're referring to joker and jason todd then its not like the comic at all since its different characters. Might as well say its all connected because theyre on earth
@@MarioBarioto many similarities. Oz meets Vic like Bruce meets Jason. And now crowbar...
@@MarioBariowell it is cause Sofia is about to bash Penguin’s robin with the crowbar 😂
The truth is that Vic... and his evolution with oz, has been quite brilliant and this. Leaving him as a simple henchwoman, he is really sincere and with oz. It helps to understand it and to be a working parent who lost and has now been able to take care of his boss a little more. It would be crazy if it continued in The Batman 2.
Eve and his mother are definitely dead. I could see Vic surviving and being ruthless in the end but I also feel like Oz might blame him for getting his mom caught. Vic could go either way
I doubt Oz will blame Victor
Eve is fine.
@@cjmk5923 yeah I could see this being the last time she's on screen, obviously she wasn't a major major character but she did have a little arc going there and this seems to have completed it.
It also sort of reinforces kind of the folly of how Oswald operates because you have somebody who's like ride or die loyal dude seems like everybody in her life but especially her girls above all else and through the just sheer mountain of lies and manipulations you created this space for this person to betray you.
Like you know how this woman operates either you should have not messed with her or come clean with her but he thinks he can worm his way out of anything.
Gilda is such a good vintage movie. Highly recommend it
I think it really hurts Oz for his mom to think he's his dad, especially because she thinks it due to the circumstances they are living in. It's too much for him to deal with. Plus I think he believes he can fix the situation and that's the solution.
Vic is a full-blown thug out here now. If Sofia kills Vic, Oz will go to war. If his mother is killed, all of Gotham will burn. Great use of the crowbar to break into both apartments. This is a great show. I could go for a can of Gotham Gold right now.
Gotta disagree about his ma. She asked him to end her life. Oz loves her too much to do it himself so he'll let Sophia do it for him
I noticed that Sofia pocketed the cigar cutter from Oz's desk. I bet she plans to get rid of Salvatore and use the cutter to cut his finger of and get her brother's ring back from him. I also believe that just as this show is a continuance from The Batman that the next Batman movie will continue from the events in this show. For this reason I believe that both Sofia and Oz will survive this show and interact with Batman. They are too good not to. There has to be deaths and unfortunately Mrs Cobb and Vic are the obvious candidates for that. Loving your reviews. Keep 'em coming.
The Penguin is an undercover Toastmaster. That was probably his DTM speech. I felt inspired to do something, but I don’t know what… lol Great video you guys!
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"If you can't do it, I'll go to Rex..." After she said that, Vic jumped in real quick to stop her from continuing. I think Vic might actually know more about her relationship with Rex than Oz (or maybe even his pops) knew.
If both his brothers were younger than him, they may not have actually been "full" brothers, if you get what I'm saying.
My fantasy next episode 7 is Oz's backstory told by his mother. I see the doctor using hypnosis to bring it out. I also see Oz keeping his promise to his mother ,and just before he does ,she's going to say "no I feel better now ".
The Sullivan Family, Odessa Mob, Bunley Town Massive, the Lo Boys, I love how they name drop gangs from the comics.
Ha! It's clear that you don't know tools when you confuse a crowbar for a wrench.
Nikki your air looks great and I really enjoyed your reactions
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i can see both of them dying next episode honestly
14:30 is why Oz wouldn't let Victor continue the fantasy that his brothers were still alive. He knows his mother's pride about being sane and herself means a lot to her.
I feel like this show is tailor made for you guys. Like, I love ypur reactions to everything but it feels like this type of shows is right up your ally. Anything that's like Rated R type of content seems like a great fit for you guys to react to.
it's a crowbar, it's a nod to the how joker killed robin in the comic with the crowbar
Well technically the building exploding took out jason todd, not the actual crowbar
Collin Farrel embodies his character so much it's crazy! I'm captivated!
I'm so glad that Oz isn't getting overshadowed by the other villains. In too many superhero TV shows, the "protagonist" is always second fiddle to the side character. Here Oz is a badass, ruthless and smart as hell. This is such a good show.
Oh God, watching this episode and their discussion about Victor after the finale.
Sofia has more in common with Vic and Frances than Oz. She let Eve go because she knew Oz was manipulating her. Frances is mentally ill and Vic didn't really do anything to her aside from save her while trying to save Oz with the car. It may come down to whether or not Vic rats out Oz, and if he does, he'll probably have a good reason for it.
Victor helped Oz with moving and desecrating her brother’s corpse, not to mention aiding Oz in shifting the blame for it. But we’ll see how merciful Sofia’s feeling soon enough.
seeing a crowbar in the bat verse is never a good thing. 😕
if they wanted to update what batman was doing or where he's at, they would.
rather, my mind is going to what else is happening while oz is dealing w/this drug war as they're not the only ones who exist in the city, and it's a big city.
I'm worried she kills Vic and steals his mom.
how did you not hear the noise of the crowbar /door at the end... even i was like wtf ..... lol but holy moly.... it's still amazing and .... awesome series and woo !
This is one of the best series I’ve ever seen. Up there with 24 , GOT , Walking Dead , Banshee and Spartacus (but not quite La Femme Nikita my own favorite 😍). Colin Farrell is fantastic, wasn’t really a fan of his but I am now. I really hope there are more series
@NikkiStevenReact Sofia had the crowbar that Sal had when they broke into his apartment. That's what she used to break into their place in Crown Point.
Hell yeah!
Steven don’t worry Penguin WILL be in The Batman 2. It was confirmed long ago
Eve with no make-up wig - looks like Oz's mom - that's good casting if intentional - I predict - Vic beaten to near death but alive enough to let Oz know Sofia took his Mom. Vic prob die in Oz's arms. Just a thought. Hoping they do something 100x better - this show is FIRE!!
All I've got are facts.
The show is called The Penguin. Colin Ferrell is a major motion picture star.
He is also an executive producer. This is a one time limited series. There is a Batman 2 coming. Colin Ferrell said everyone is going to hate The Penguin when this series ends.
Sounds a lot like Penguin is the villian for the next Batman, and very unlikely anybody they made us care about at all gets out of this series alive or at a minimum locked away in Arkham.
Its been said these h's aint loyal. Hope penguin gets his revenge on her
I just realized Sophia is same actress that was in Fargo season 2.
I think you both would like Special Operations: Lioness. It just started its second season.
Other have interacted with him. Ventress did. And when he arrived in her room, he was brought in by one of her men n
when you see a crowbar in a batman story... gotham changes
I really think oz is gonna allow his mom to be unalived because shes already got dementia and old and thatll be the turning point where he goes full villian
Of course, Sophia won't kill Penguin's mother. She had her revenge on her family. She will kidnap the mother, then take her to a meeting point and the penguin will then be allowed to watch as Sophia's new partner kills her by burning her alive. In this way, he avenges his family, which the penguin has burned.
By the way, we could actually get a Batman villain from the comics here with Victor and we get an origin story of Victor Szazs here.
Szazs is a psychopath who gives himself a scar after every murder. His favorite tools are knives.
I already mentioned the Scarecrow possibility with the therapist last episode.
The Batman is also an origin story somewhere, so why not fabricate even more enemy origins? All opponents that Batman will have to deal with later.
It is possible that Victor becomes Victor Szazs, even if so far there is not much to be said for it except the first name. But it may well be that dealing with the penguin at a young age makes him become this psycho.
Oh she’s gonna burn, no doubt. I get the victor thing, but Scarecrow is Dr. Crane.
@@seanstinchfield-mp2xm Yes, he can rename himself. Or this name he has right now is wrong.
In any case, he delights in Sophia's fears and tries to control her and be close to her. I don't think he's treating her, I think he's nurturing her fears.
Crowbar is a reference to killing one of the robins. Alot of the Fandom is theorizing Victor becoming Zsasz- I personally disagree; more likely he become Emperor Penguin. Penguin wouldn't accidentally stumble onto the batcave as its in a different borough you can see it in the beginning of the episode( under or near Wayne industry, also in background you can see gcpd and the tower with the bat-light) the theory with Sophia imaging Theo was a good one- some theorize that since he's obsessed with power over ones psyche that he might end up being Scarecrow.
Whatever "good", "merciful", "ok" guy within himself no matter how miniscule is gonna completely die off with francis if she is killed. Right now vic n his mom grounds him to whatever kindness still resides in oz's heart, after his mom m vic are gone he has nothing left to lose in terms of any emotional connection he has..the only thing that will remain is his "step over/on top of anyone u need to" ambition to climb to the top. Without having anyone he needs to care for or look after, he will be free to act however the fuck he wants...the 1st domino of betrayal will be star selling them out, and if her snitching gets his mother or vic killed!?! Hes gonna lose his fucking mind. Those 3 are his "anchors" right now, star,victor, francis and the show is setting them ALL up to die..
Which is how i believe oz will go from "sympathetic oz" to "merciless penguin with nothing and nobody left to lose".. without his "anchors" oz is simply "crazy adrift"..
Nanu! Nanu! 😁
I admit it! They made me doubt! But I don't let go of my point! The hanged killer (presumed) face to face with the real hanged killer!!!
OMG!! I just figured it out...Vic(tor) becomes Mr. Freeze!!!😮😮😮😮
Of course, I could be wrong, but I believe that because of her being betrayed by Oz, and sent to Arkham, Sofia, with the help of Dr. Rush, is going to have Vic suffer the same fate.
Rex is Oz’s dad. I’m standing on that hot take.
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Should've been smarter for Victor to make Squid's death looked like committed by Maronis, then let his body displayed for the entire Crown Point to see.
Phenomenal show
No that is not the group! The Dark Knight group was the left over of the Falcon's group, so from like the start of the show.
These episodes truly get better and better! For me this is the first time that I said that this is the best episode yet. What an awesome start it had lol. I miss the days when TV series had 24 episodes, but people hated all the filler episodes ugh
He might kill his mother to put her out of her misery or leave her for them to kill to stay safe and tell himself that is what his mother would've wanted
Nanu Nanu !!! - Old School Robin Williams !!!
The doctor is Arkham interacted with him.
Vic shooting Squid and then struggling with it reminded me so much of Jesse Pinkman shooting Gale. It was the end of sweet silly Jesse and I think this is the end of innocent Vic.
P.S. Nikki, your hair……..👍🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What if we get a joker situation where Sofia and sal make the penguin choose who to save: Vic or his mom 👀
Vics gonna make to the next batman cos surely he's this universes version of Victor Zsasz isn't he?
I'm stressed because every single character in this series that's not Oz is 100% expendable and can be killed off any time. Would prefer Sofia and Vic survive, but neither are guaranteed. The moms death I fear is required for the Penguin origin story to complete. I'd almost expect Oz to kill Vic himself for not protecting his mom.
Said it before and I'll say it again: Vic is gonna be this bat universe 's Red Hood, right? I mean, look at his bike helmet and that brown jacket, and the crowbar appears again? And now he uses a gun. Too much of a coincidence, just saying.
In the comics, the Joker killed Jason by using his mom as leverage. Victor doesn’t have a mom. Nor a family.
No just... No
@Loco2xs I totally see Sal beating the crap out of Vic with that crowbar in order to take Oz' mom, because I don't see Vic just letting them to.
It doesn’t feel like they’re going down that route, but it would be refreshing if instead of Dick, they do Jason as Robin.
At least up to this point it seems like they're just paralleling the characters. But with that said I would very much like it for Vic to make it out alive and ideally out of Gotham.
Mork and Mindy reference 🙋🏻♀️
I think shell most likely take vic because he knows more than the mother but shell use the mother as bait !
Gawd I hate Julian Rush, that creep.
I'm jealous of Julian