Very nice scopes for sure. And a good price point. I am an STX lover and I think the ocular with 65 objective is still quite portable (who taken apart) but that combo would be $1100 more if you were starting from scratch. But someone who already has the STX or ATX is better off adding the 65 objective, IMOHO. Thanks for the great intro vid.
We did a comparison for Western Hunter between the STC, Razor 13-39, and Mavin S.2! We did have a Kowa planned to use in this review, but someone bought it right before we shot the video. However, we do mention it in this video. ruclips.net/video/9a3wwS8Ds9E/видео.html
Not entirely sure what you mean. These scopes attach with an adapter like any other spotting scope. The only difference is the lack of a "foot" on the bottom.
To answer the query no there is no anti rotation pin hole because simply put it’s not needed. This scope is so light and long lenses/ large spotters tend to have the issue more frequently due purely to mass alone. If you torque it up correctly to your tripod plate it shouldn’t budge.
That's the Outdoorsmans Pan Head! outdoorsmans.com/products/outdoorsmans-pan-head You might like the Micro Pan Head too. outdoorsmans.com/products/outdoorsmans-micro-pan-head
Do think Swarovski made a mistake by not having a decent tripod plate lets see if they rectify this with a mark 2 version. If they do it would be the ideal lightweight scope.
I think this is to save weight overall since having a small adapter is more efficient than having a big heavy plate. At this low weight it should be stable enough, and all their promo shows people setting up on packs and not tripods, and that's what that plate accessory is for too, so...
@@mysterioanonymous3206 you could be right at pushing 60 years old my manfrotto 055 carbon tripod feels more like a steel one .just having to rethink the way forward to go lite
$1200 more seems like quite a bit more expensive. That's definitely in a different category of scope, too. If you bought the body without an eyepiece, I guess it would be pretty close!
The sharp point of the atc is very small, so if you have a bird sharp,for example, and he is coming towards you just a little you have to recorrect, for my opinion not usefull...
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Very nice scopes for sure. And a good price point. I am an STX lover and I think the ocular with 65 objective is still quite portable (who taken apart) but that combo would be $1100 more if you were starting from scratch. But someone who already has the STX or ATX is better off adding the 65 objective, IMOHO. Thanks for the great intro vid.
Have you been able to compare them optically side by side with the Kowa compact spotters?
We'll have an update on this soon! Initial impressions are that it won't be much of a contest. ATC/STC are on another level.
We did a comparison for Western Hunter between the STC, Razor 13-39, and Mavin S.2! We did have a Kowa planned to use in this review, but someone bought it right before we shot the video. However, we do mention it in this video.
ruclips.net/video/9a3wwS8Ds9E/видео.html
Is there any difference in feel between this kind of telescope and binoculars? Which one will provide a sharper, wider, and more comfortable picture?
I read you cannot lock it in place to the tripod. There's no anti rotation pin. Is that true? What are your experiences?
Not entirely sure what you mean. These scopes attach with an adapter like any other spotting scope. The only difference is the lack of a "foot" on the bottom.
To answer the query no there is no anti rotation pin hole because simply put it’s not needed. This scope is so light and long lenses/ large spotters tend to have the issue more frequently due purely to mass alone. If you torque it up correctly to your tripod plate it shouldn’t budge.
What kind of tripod head did you use in this video? Really tiny, I like that.
That's the Outdoorsmans Pan Head!
outdoorsmans.com/products/outdoorsmans-pan-head
You might like the Micro Pan Head too.
outdoorsmans.com/products/outdoorsmans-micro-pan-head
@@Outdoorsmans Is there a way to buy them somewhere in Europe?
Twin spotter bracket? 👀
Unfortunately not. They're just a tiny bit too wide. That was one of our first thoughts too!
@@Outdoorsmans lame! Thanks for the review!
any idea of waterproofness ?
Fully waterproof to 13 ft submersion
@@Outdoorsmans thanks mate ! just seen this reply lol
Do think Swarovski made a mistake by not having a decent tripod plate lets see if they rectify this with a mark 2 version. If they do it would be the ideal lightweight scope.
I think this is to save weight overall since having a small adapter is more efficient than having a big heavy plate. At this low weight it should be stable enough, and all their promo shows people setting up on packs and not tripods, and that's what that plate accessory is for too, so...
@@mysterioanonymous3206 you could be right at pushing 60 years old my manfrotto 055 carbon tripod feels more like a steel one .just having to rethink the way forward to go lite
Interesting question. As a plate manufacturer, we don't hate it!
It was very helpful.
If you buy your own, do you buy ATC or STC? Please let me know.
The RUclips guy votes ATC!
ATC
YOURE NOT GIVING UP A SINGLE BIT OF BRIGHTNESS
YOURE JUST GONNA HAVE A 56mm OBJECTIVE LENSE….SO THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE DARKER IN SOME SCENARIOS
*LENS
@@Outdoorsmans THATS WHY YOURE THE EXPERT
The kowa tsn 88mm is not much more expensive than these 56mms...
$1200 more seems like quite a bit more expensive. That's definitely in a different category of scope, too. If you bought the body without an eyepiece, I guess it would be pretty close!
@@Outdoorsmans in the uk the swarovski atc is £2000, the kowa tsn 883 is £2300. 56mm vs 88mm.
@@GM-bq6zo In the US it's around $2500 just for the body of the Kowa 883. With the eyepiece, it's $3600+
The sharp point of the atc is very small, so if you have a bird sharp,for example, and he is coming towards you just a little you have to recorrect, for my opinion not usefull...