using prefix to suffix beast craft at 11:35 would give you a 1/2 instead of 1/3 that u have with a normal annul, and if u do remove the right mod, its around 70% chance to not hit a attack mod, which you can then use the cannot roll attack annul tech on
@@drschafsz87 even if you wanted to go for lightning res, you could just craft fire/cold res and harvest change it to lightning res making it a permanent mod
New player here who is confused about crafting in POE, really appreciate the detailed breakdown on how to craft end-game gear. Looking forward for more content!
The Reason Attack Speed doesnt show in your POB as a damage increase is because you are looking at the wrong number, Average Damage is the Damage of your Skill per cast? (maybe cast is wrong word) combined dps or any sort of dps will actually count in your attack speed
The true crafting experience in Poe. Start off with only the best intentions of hitting an end game bis claw and end up settling with a multi modded item after an epic currency massacre.
in case you don't know. critical strike chance as a mod is not taken into account when calculating EDPS, so it is PoB did not lie, it is better for your dps, but it's not technically more "EDPS" according to how trade calculates it, which doesn't mean they arent worth it, just means its undervalued
The only claw build that i have played was on sentinel league, i remember paying 20ex for a 900edps claw, it really makes one see how op where recombinators.
even though i dont disagree, these claws have "hits cannot be evaded", which removes the possiblity of having 700+ epds (tripple ele dmg), therefore not really comparable.
Without getting any infinite sums involved, I'll try explaining why crafting before annul is useless and only chugs more annuls. You will keep spending annuls until you hit one of the 3 non-crafted mods. They have an equal chance so it's still 1/3 to annul the right one, exactly equivalent to not having anything crafted. But you have the chance to chug through multiple annuls, which is strictly worse.
never crafted something like this, because the combined crafting mechanics of this game needed to perfect an item, or the sheer knowledge of what method to use is so intimidating and overwhelming, that i just can't get myself to do it.
If you're rolling for t1 lightning damage while spamming essences of zeal, you can search for "vapourising" in the highlight field and it will highlight only t1 lightning damage while you're on essences of zeal. If you're on essences of wrath, you can search for "celebration" in the highlight items field and it will only highlight t1 attack speed. Makes it a bit easier to roll when you don't have to stop for every single lightning damage or attack speed false alarm.
you can also start with fractured 30% as then use fossils, what's tough is hits can't be evaded and T1 ele but what can you do really. Synthesis base and claws corruptions are very strong but they both ruin the lgh. Elevated nearby monsters -%res and take extra ele dmg(9% more multiplier) are great but it makes the craft really hard can try rngjesus add influence mods(shaper has ton) and elevate instead of multi modding then you can also currupt.
Pretty sure bench crafting an extra affix before annulling is an infinite series. 1/4 + 1/16 + 1/64 + 1/256 + 1/1024... = 1/3. Not the play unless you like marginally worse odds and wasting annuls
when you had t1 lightning damage and you annulled the attack speed but after that you annulled the physical damage instead of the lightning damage would you be able to do prefixes cannot be changed then use a essence of zeal and it would bring back the attack speed?
Hey man if you want the biggest damage upgrade make sure you're crit capped. It's easy more damage and the claw difference will really shine then. Maybe you are and just don't have your brittle ticked in pob but just wanted to give some extra advice that really helped me when I played vg for the first time
Yeah I'm only at 90% with brittle. The build has been doing everything I need it to so I've been a bit lazy with sanding off the rough edges but I'll try get crit capped asap!
Why do we prefer "Hit's can't be evaded" over another elemental damage? Since we do get precision (many PoBs have it) don't we cap on hit? Is the accuracy needed to hit cap more important than the dmg of T1 / T2 element?
hits cant be evaded saves a lot of passive points and a gem slot, thats huge for endgame min maxing. these extra pasaive points can give double crit multi jewels with %max life for example.
Crafting another mod before annuling is 100% useless, all it accomplishes is it adds a chance for you to waste an annul. Say you have 3 mods, 1 you want to remove, 1/3 chance of success, 2/3 chance of failure You craft another mod, now you have 1/4 chance of success, 2/4 chance of failure, 1/4 chance of hitting your crafted mod. If you hit your crafted mod, you used an annul, recraft the mod and go again, so the only outcome that matters is the 3/4 chance of you not hitting the crafted mod.
@@Lolcohol But if you do you also get a comment by Raphop anyway. So do the right thing instead and get wrong comments that other readers can laugh at!
It's not bad but I'm using Trinity and cold and lightning work well together for that (quite complicated to explain in a YT comment). Fire isn't important and hits can't be evaded frees up a lot of pressure on the tree and gear in terms of finding accuracy
@@Lolcohol oh ok i see!! Is it possible to replace voll's devotion helmet with a blizzard crown? If that's the case, what would you craft on it? I know it's hard to beat the kaom's spirit set up with berzerk with the voll's helm, but maybe it's doable!!! 😁
I'm not an expert, but I'm going to assume it's because of Trinity Support. You want 2 elemental types to alternate between doing the highest hit damage or Trinity doesn't work.
@@sharpazn You only need 1 fire roll for Trinity and people usually take mantra of flames for that. Lightning has a high dmg ceiling and cold and a high floor. So your min and max dmg are both boosted while keeping Trinity resonance up with the most dmg output. You can use fire, but it's the 'mid' of the three for dmg and not usually useful unless lacking in other areas.
dear lolcohol, because of we using wrath and anger auras, we can make more damage with double t1 fire + lightning flat dmg, rather than double t1 cold + lightning, if u want to get the best possible outcome, then only choice is fire or lightning fractured base and spam deaf atck spd essence till u catch other t1 flat dmg mod
I only use Wrath :) but that makes sense if you're using wrath and anger and explains why many for sale were fire and lightning and not lightning and cold
@@Lolcohol after freeing up precision, u need to get a blizzard crown which crafted by deafening mana reserve essence, socket into it enlighten at least 3 lvl, link sniper mark to lifetap setup, after all u will have enough mana to make work anger + wrath + determ/haste, and enough mana for all other skills, also in this case blizzard crown solves the issues about flat cold dmg that u need for trinity setup to work correctly edit: I forgot, u also need to have sovereignity annoint on your omni to make 3 big aura work correctly
Can you not divine fractured mods anymore? Or what was the reason to divine the 4mod claw to 30% and fracture it then?Just asking in Case of you dont Hit the fracture you Just waste divines.
how come you divined for the 30% attack speed then continued using the same essence? like wouldn't that be pointless since it rerolls back to 28-30 Edit: nevermind i realised if you fractured attack speed u would want 30% lmao
Crafting a mod you don't want before an annul just makes you lose an annul and have to go again if you hit it. The only odds it improves is the odds of you wasting currency.
Hey I play on console and the trade market is barren you can hardly find what you need and if you can it's super expensive do you think you can do crafts that are cheaper to do like under 2 divines cause I currently have 500k monster kills and have only gotten 1 raw Divine drop and have made a total of 6 divines from raw chaos drops and selling stuff on trade console might not have as many players as PC but we still need tips that apply to us not just PC cause I've had to buy currency with real money to even attempt the crafts you do on your channel
Why do you want to fracture so much? Wouldnt it be better if you could change the mod at youre leisure. Especially if youre not completely satisfied with the end result.
It makes the craft 100x easier and cheaper and I'll never not want cold. If I want to change the mod at my leisure I'll get a new base and start fresh:D
@@aryssobral reflect elemental damage is impossible until you have a level 5 Awakened Elemental Damage gem. Decreased Life Regen is really bad if you're doing the Berserk Unique version of the build. There are others that I avoid but those 2 are the ones that "break" the build
Yeah the thing I was trying to figure out was if it was worth going for the annul because getting mods to roll that well a second time might cost more divines than a fracturing orb does
When Cutedog_ "gambles" divination cards, he's actually crafting currency. Whether it hits his stash tab or yours isn't the point. Nothing about this process is crafting anything. How has GGG made people believe this level of gambling is a creative process? Or gaming in general. This is currency deletion. I say this after having just crafted double elevated, triple influenced boots. I could easily sell them for more, but there is no accounting for the time lost. This is determined if you have the time and a durable mouse. I hated Harvest myself because it was too deterministic, but I don't hold any illusion that this gamble is a craft. Multimod is a lazy achievement at best, representative of how little all this matter when you can give up one sixth of your mods and call it an upgrade.
@@Lolcohol I'm a bit offended by your reply. I was literally watching an Omisid cast of words, that you were apart of. I didn't write those for you, but for the people who can't imagine being us. I'm not casual. You aren't either. These words travel beyond those boundries. Dont tell me xd. Lazy asshole. Tell me why I'm wrong ao we can fight the same enemy. Can you tell me?
Watching you absolutely waste all those essences sof zeal was painful. Wrath is the best/easiest way to get prefixews. Also not a fan with videos at the start where you say you dont want to have to upgrade this calw again and going for your end game claw then settling for a multi-mod claw.
Well, wrath is easier but also worse. Wrath is worse than t1 lightning damage and zeal is better than t1 attack speed, so it makes sense to go for zeals if you want to have the better claw
![Crafting a Venom Gyre Claw for Strength-Stacking Replica Alberon Builds [Path of Exile 3.19]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KQzSoZLhLjA/mqdefault.jpg)
using prefix to suffix beast craft at 11:35 would give you a 1/2 instead of 1/3 that u have with a normal annul, and if u do remove the right mod, its around 70% chance to not hit a attack mod, which you can then use the cannot roll attack annul tech on
True!! I should've thought of that. Great call
@@Lolcohol could you do augment lightning with prefixes cannot be changed to garantue lightning res if you hit the craft and make it a 50/50 too?
@@drschafsz87 even if you wanted to go for lightning res, you could just craft fire/cold res and harvest change it to lightning res making it a permanent mod
@@Lolcohol Man I was almost jumping out of my chair shouting as you did the one thing I was afraid of happening :)
@@useless-sama716 I just thought that way you also get a 50/50 and can safely remove lightning res with cannot roll attack mods craft
New player here who is confused about crafting in POE, really appreciate the detailed breakdown on how to craft end-game gear. Looking forward for more content!
I'd strongly go back to his older videos. As a complete casual player, his videos helped me understand so much. Brilliant channel.
The Reason Attack Speed doesnt show in your POB as a damage increase is because you are looking at the wrong number, Average Damage is the Damage of your Skill per cast? (maybe cast is wrong word) combined dps or any sort of dps will actually count in your attack speed
The true crafting experience in Poe. Start off with only the best intentions of hitting an end game bis claw and end up settling with a multi modded item after an epic currency massacre.
100% accurate haha
ThE vIsioN
in case you don't know. critical strike chance as a mod is not taken into account when calculating EDPS, so it is PoB did not lie, it is better for your dps, but it's not technically more "EDPS" according to how trade calculates it, which doesn't mean they arent worth it, just means its undervalued
He was talking about attack speed, not crit. In which he should have looked at the Full DPS or combined, not the average.
The only claw build that i have played was on sentinel league, i remember paying 20ex for a 900edps claw, it really makes one see how op where recombinators.
even though i dont disagree, these claws have "hits cannot be evaded", which removes the possiblity of having 700+ epds (tripple ele dmg), therefore not really comparable.
Without getting any infinite sums involved, I'll try explaining why crafting before annul is useless and only chugs more annuls. You will keep spending annuls until you hit one of the 3 non-crafted mods. They have an equal chance so it's still 1/3 to annul the right one, exactly equivalent to not having anything crafted. But you have the chance to chug through multiple annuls, which is strictly worse.
never crafted something like this, because the combined crafting mechanics of this game needed to perfect an item, or the sheer knowledge of what method to use is so intimidating and overwhelming, that i just can't get myself to do it.
If you're rolling for t1 lightning damage while spamming essences of zeal, you can search for "vapourising" in the highlight field and it will highlight only t1 lightning damage while you're on essences of zeal. If you're on essences of wrath, you can search for "celebration" in the highlight items field and it will only highlight t1 attack speed.
Makes it a bit easier to roll when you don't have to stop for every single lightning damage or attack speed false alarm.
Does that work now? I've tried that in the past and it didn't highlight but if they added that, that's amazing! Will test later:)
The 7div one didn't have the base crit, which is a lot of damage, 1.5% is the same as the elder affix on chest.
Very good point! I was looking at the APS instead of the base crit. Yeah, that's a massive difference. Good catch
14:34 Path of Exile was correct, PoB is the true PoE endgame
you can also start with fractured 30% as then use fossils, what's tough is hits can't be evaded and T1 ele but what can you do really. Synthesis base and claws corruptions are very strong but they both ruin the lgh. Elevated nearby monsters -%res and take extra ele dmg(9% more multiplier) are great but it makes the craft really hard can try rngjesus add influence mods(shaper has ton) and elevate instead of multi modding then you can also currupt.
Pretty sure bench crafting an extra affix before annulling is an infinite series.
1/4 + 1/16 + 1/64 + 1/256 + 1/1024... = 1/3. Not the play unless you like marginally worse odds and wasting annuls
Brooo, why not beastcraft to remove the prefix? :)
Derped out hard xd
Not using a prefix to suffix on that t1 annul attempt really hurts me :
I think the reason people enchant attack speed is because of whirling blades, it moves faster. That and I guess it feels better.
When you hit t1 fire why didn't you just change fire to lightning with harvest?
when you had t1 lightning damage and you annulled the attack speed but after that you annulled the physical damage instead of the lightning damage would you be able to do prefixes cannot be changed then use a essence of zeal and it would bring back the attack speed?
Essence dont work with Meta mods
Yeah sadly you get an error message on items with meta crafts :( if only we could!
you can't use essences with metacrafts.
additional info, fossils dont respect metamods too
Wait so essences dont work with metamods
on 5:02 that claw was pretty much finished haha, crits there, speeds there. but welp
Oh man... Congrats on the upgrade I guess. At least you can say you crafted it yourself! :D
Hey man if you want the biggest damage upgrade make sure you're crit capped. It's easy more damage and the claw difference will really shine then. Maybe you are and just don't have your brittle ticked in pob but just wanted to give some extra advice that really helped me when I played vg for the first time
Yeah I'm only at 90% with brittle. The build has been doing everything I need it to so I've been a bit lazy with sanding off the rough edges but I'll try get crit capped asap!
hey @lolcohol i have request can u make a video about to craft Dot rings for rf ? i see written guides but i can follow way better when i see it :)
Elemental damage with attacks is more dps but extremely hard to hit
Why do we prefer "Hit's can't be evaded" over another elemental damage? Since we do get precision (many PoBs have it) don't we cap on hit? Is the accuracy needed to hit cap more important than the dmg of T1 / T2 element?
hits cant be evaded saves a lot of passive points and a gem slot, thats huge for endgame min maxing. these extra pasaive points can give double crit multi jewels with %max life for example.
Haha you basically made the exact claw I made last league for my LS Inquisitor haha...
the 7 divine one had no base crit increase thats why it was so cheap :P
Good catch! That's actually a massive damage difference
Crafting another mod before annuling is 100% useless, all it accomplishes is it adds a chance for you to waste an annul.
Say you have 3 mods, 1 you want to remove, 1/3 chance of success, 2/3 chance of failure
You craft another mod, now you have 1/4 chance of success, 2/4 chance of failure, 1/4 chance of hitting your crafted mod.
If you hit your crafted mod, you used an annul, recraft the mod and go again, so the only outcome that matters is the 3/4 chance of you not hitting the crafted mod.
I promise you if I didn't, I get a maths comment saying the opposite 😅
@@Lolcohol But if you do you also get a comment by Raphop anyway. So do the right thing instead and get wrong comments that other readers can laugh at!
What’s that program he’s using to price check while still in game?
Awakened PoE Trade :)
can you make cold dot wand with +2 gem,dot multi,spell damage and aspect of spider ?
Felt the pain in ur voice when u saw that claw up for 7div
Turns out it wasn't so bad! It wad a noble claw which has far worse base crit which is why it was so cheap! Phew.
the annul after the fact had different odds because leech wasnt a valid target anymore...
I know...I was joking lol.
Why is fire damage bad on the claw?
It's not bad but I'm using Trinity and cold and lightning work well together for that (quite complicated to explain in a YT comment). Fire isn't important and hits can't be evaded frees up a lot of pressure on the tree and gear in terms of finding accuracy
@@Lolcohol oh ok i see!! Is it possible to replace voll's devotion helmet with a blizzard crown? If that's the case, what would you craft on it? I know it's hard to beat the kaom's spirit set up with berzerk with the voll's helm, but maybe it's doable!!! 😁
I'm not an expert, but I'm going to assume it's because of Trinity Support. You want 2 elemental types to alternate between doing the highest hit damage or Trinity doesn't work.
@@sharpazn You only need 1 fire roll for Trinity and people usually take mantra of flames for that. Lightning has a high dmg ceiling and cold and a high floor. So your min and max dmg are both boosted while keeping Trinity resonance up with the most dmg output. You can use fire, but it's the 'mid' of the three for dmg and not usually useful unless lacking in other areas.
desnt attack speed have brakepoints ... so small precent might not count
dear lolcohol, because of we using wrath and anger auras, we can make more damage with double t1 fire + lightning flat dmg, rather than double t1 cold + lightning, if u want to get the best possible outcome, then only choice is fire or lightning fractured base and spam deaf atck spd essence till u catch other t1 flat dmg mod
I only use Wrath :) but that makes sense if you're using wrath and anger and explains why many for sale were fire and lightning and not lightning and cold
@@Lolcohol after freeing up precision, u need to get a blizzard crown which crafted by deafening mana reserve essence, socket into it enlighten at least 3 lvl, link sniper mark to lifetap setup, after all u will have enough mana to make work anger + wrath + determ/haste, and enough mana for all other skills, also in this case blizzard crown solves the issues about flat cold dmg that u need for trinity setup to work correctly
edit: I forgot, u also need to have sovereignity annoint on your omni to make 3 big aura work correctly
Can you not divine fractured mods anymore? Or what was the reason to divine the 4mod claw to 30% and fracture it then?Just asking in Case of you dont Hit the fracture you Just waste divines.
You have never been able to Divine fractured mods - once its fractured, it can't be altered
how come you divined for the 30% attack speed then continued using the same essence? like wouldn't that be pointless since it rerolls back to 28-30
Edit: nevermind i realised if you fractured attack speed u would want 30% lmao
The thing I hate the most about PoE's crafting is PoE's crafting. 😆
Crafting a mod you don't want before an annul just makes you lose an annul and have to go again if you hit it. The only odds it improves is the odds of you wasting currency.
this was a LS claw...now is Venom gyre claw... So sad to see Ls go away
did the same , lost 20 divines. unlucky gg
how would crafting on a modifier give you better chance when annuling? lol the PoE community has some weird ideas
people always undervaluing the critical strike chance on a weapon..
Hey I play on console and the trade market is barren you can hardly find what you need and if you can it's super expensive do you think you can do crafts that are cheaper to do like under 2 divines cause I currently have 500k monster kills and have only gotten 1 raw Divine drop and have made a total of 6 divines from raw chaos drops and selling stuff on trade console might not have as many players as PC but we still need tips that apply to us not just PC cause I've had to buy currency with real money to even attempt the crafts you do on your channel
Admitting to RMT isn't cool, isn't legal, and will get you banned. In fact, just playing the game doing ANY league mechanic will net you divines.
You dont know if that person who was "selling" it for 7 divines would actually sell it, mostly they dont answer back
Why do you want to fracture so much? Wouldnt it be better if you could change the mod at youre leisure. Especially if youre not completely satisfied with the end result.
It makes the craft 100x easier and cheaper and I'll never not want cold. If I want to change the mod at my leisure I'll get a new base and start fresh:D
saw you manually making the item in PoB, you can copy the item in game and paste it in pob if you didn't know, save yourself some time
Yeah you can ctrl+c and ctrl+v but then you have to manually type the different mods you want to test out to compare the differences :(
@@Lolcohol also just finished the video and saw you do it, so learned my lesson, lol
I would rate this a profitable craft. But I just can't.
except it wasnt. at all.
At which level we can start using venom gyre while leveling? Please answer me.
I'm not sure but I'd reach out to CaptainLance or Kobeblackmamba. This was a second build of the league for me so I didn't level it with VG
Kobe did an amazing guide, and his FAQ video can tell you the main elements needed for a smooth swap
@@caioken I will watch It, does venom gyree build play all map mods?
@@aryssobral reflect elemental damage is impossible until you have a level 5 Awakened Elemental Damage gem. Decreased Life Regen is really bad if you're doing the Berserk Unique version of the build. There are others that I avoid but those 2 are the ones that "break" the build
1/4 vs 1/5 25% vs 20%
Yeah the thing I was trying to figure out was if it was worth going for the annul because getting mods to roll that well a second time might cost more divines than a fracturing orb does
@@Lolcohol but you are aiming for 2/4 and 2/5 so 50% vs 40% make sense to annul for the extra 10%
When Cutedog_ "gambles" divination cards, he's actually crafting currency. Whether it hits his stash tab or yours isn't the point. Nothing about this process is crafting anything. How has GGG made people believe this level of gambling is a creative process? Or gaming in general. This is currency deletion. I say this after having just crafted double elevated, triple influenced boots. I could easily sell them for more, but there is no accounting for the time lost. This is determined if you have the time and a durable mouse. I hated Harvest myself because it was too deterministic, but I don't hold any illusion that this gamble is a craft. Multimod is a lazy achievement at best, representative of how little all this matter when you can give up one sixth of your mods and call it an upgrade.
xd
@@Lolcohol I'm a bit offended by your reply. I was literally watching an Omisid cast of words, that you were apart of. I didn't write those for you, but for the people who can't imagine being us.
I'm not casual. You aren't either. These words travel beyond those boundries. Dont tell me xd. Lazy asshole. Tell me why I'm wrong ao we can fight the same enemy.
Can you tell me?
someone needs some grass in their life.
Watching you absolutely waste all those essences sof zeal was painful. Wrath is the best/easiest way to get prefixews. Also not a fan with videos at the start where you say you dont want to have to upgrade this calw again and going for your end game claw then settling for a multi-mod claw.
Well, wrath is easier but also worse.
Wrath is worse than t1 lightning damage and zeal is better than t1 attack speed, so it makes sense to go for zeals if you want to have the better claw
Calm down
Oof this is painful to watch man😅
o/