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He's a cool dude I remember and he wasn't in the streets like that he used to play 🏀 when he was younger never known him to sell drugs as a youth he was cool with every one
Did your work and bid, but still too green from fascination to shut the fuck and let them talk sometimes. I came from the early parts of your channel where you told your stories. Let them tell theirs.
You really gotta allow your guest to finish telling the stories before cutting them off. He kept trying to tell a story about his friend, but you kept asking questions in between. 🤦♂️
I like the way he asks the questions. He was asking the questions as soon as I thought of them. He is a good interviewer. Gary, however, struggles a lot to express his thoughts, so I believe he did a good job. Hope his book was explained a lot better than his way of talking.
Maaaannnnn, you said it! That is absolutely the most off putting trait about him. I mean here’s this white kid from the west coast, Oregon to be exact, that’s acting as though he knows all there is to know about this hustle life, thug life, gangster life. So he’s listened to rap most his life and watched some movies and now he’s the top gangster? Look how obsessed he is about east coast drug game and culture. How many gangsters and kingpins come out of Oregon? None I’ve heard of. If he’d just humble himself instead of acting as though his listening to rap equated to real experience or knowledge he’d be liked a lot more. But he can’t, he wants to fit in soooo bad and seem so down he acts as if he’s lived that life because he pushed some weed in Oregon to some white kids. Big difference than pushing crack in NYC to D.C. Just chill Johnny. You don’t need to prove yourself.
Yep. It's too much. You see it all the time with these podcasters. No one can just listen. It makes the interviews unwatchable. I unsubbed after listening to about 1/3 of this. Same for Koncrete/Danny Jones. Dude cuts everyone off and rages hard when guests won't agree with him.
I worked alongside Mr Heyward in the same facility on Rikers Island. His book Corruption Officer is a very good read. While much of what Mr Heyward states is true he left out how COs on Rikers are also brutally attacked by inmates. The vast majority of Correction Officers in our facility were outstanding individuals. Mr Heyward made some bad decisions, while he was lucky to only get a two year sentence for cooperating , he still answered for his bad decisions and tells a very compelling life story that many can relate to. While myself being retired for 14 years after working 20 years as a NYC Correction Officer, my personal opinion..Rikers Island is to be FORGOTTEN!!.
Have you ever considered writing a book yourself? I bet you've seen enough crazy shxt working as a correctional officer to fill a book! And it's such a popular genre, books like that tend to sell really well. Just the mention of "Rikers Island" gets people's attention up straight away.
I’m a COII in A Midwest State facility .. dirty co s make rest look bad . No disrespect but we have a lot get caught up. Can’t believe he only got 2 years he s lucky .
My Dad was a Captain at Rikers. He retired in 1994. He was their during the AIDS and crack years of the 80's. Told me and my brother crazy stories. He never brought the job home, and was such a gentleman considering he was around the worst of the worst for 20 years.
Your dad sounds like the man! Only someone truly mentally strong can keep work and home separate (especially that kind of atmosphere) so salute to your pops 🫡
I came across the biggest italian POS criminal cop who treated people like shit, so manipulative with the good cop/bad cop routine which every cop is trained to do everyday which consists of lying and physically intimidating people to get what they want and then they are the first ones to talk about other people needing to be a gentleman to them! Cops, all cops are rude, disrespectful, dishonest, entitled, manipulative and hypocritical POS criminals. Don't Fool yourself, your dad was a POS criminal too especially while he was at work. A lot of them will treat their own family and children with respect but then treat everyone else with entitlement, disrespect and extremely manipulative
This is why I like Ian Bicks podcasts better. He sits back, shuts up and lets the person telling their story, TELL THEIR STORY!! ..he only asks the questions that need to be asked when there’s a break in the story. He doesn’t interrupt them every 2 seconds 😑
You must let your gf get pounded too.. Ian is a lillywhite bltch. Dudes stories are very obviously fake. He was a nobody and he's trying to act like he's in the know. He wasn't.
Thanks for sharing this bc this host gets on my nerves and makes too many side eye comments towards black folks. I’ll check out the other guys RUclips.
Not just the city, the country and especially our Justice system and prison system. Innocent guards being jumped so they can be beaten, stabbed, or even killed. Dirty guards bringing in contraband from something fairly soft like tobacco or electronics, to hard stuff like drugs and weapons. Finally the worst…Evil guards regularly abusing prisoners by destroying their stuff and generally making their lives even more miserable, to beatings and even sexual assaults, torture, and murder. Meanwhile these places are somehow supposed to be rehabilitating the people who committed the crimes that put them there. Smh, broken indeed.
@@bretcappola6904, in New York when politicians ; judges ; celebrities down to Cops/Correction Officers (Police) when they get pinched/convicted they automatically go into PC , there's no getting around that primarily because no Warden is going to assume that liability factor ...
@@Bassman7 that's a defense mechanism,all cons who got some shit with them do stuff like that,cuz they want people to like them when they find out about their past,isn't matt cox a rat too? I'm pretty sure he is,he probably did the same shit
Once a pig always a pig, when he was in the pound he probably hated his celly, hated all the oppressed around him and related better with the pigs that locked him up every night
@@soullessemperor6572 I agree and disagree,there is alot of snakes in the grass, and fake smiles, but after being on blocks with guys 5,6, or even 7 years, I have developed a few friendships and have a few life's that at the very least I remember to send a Xmas card to with some flicks
I'm a retire Correctional administrator from CA, 29 years from the bottom to the top. C/O's who become compromised are basically suckers who get easily played/manipulated by convicts with game. Once compromised, the convicts never let the sucker off the hook.
@@thestonedprince Pretty much a no-win situation. You can tell on yourself and get fired, or continue until you get caught, possibly convicted and/or incarcerated. Beat option: Transfer, stay clean and hope nobody tells on you once you're gone. Best option: write them up (report) the same day they ask, then others will know you aren't so dumb. A pension can be well into the millions, be smart.
Knowing that Johnny is from the Pacific Northwest and this cat is from the northeast, it’s interesting hearing them exchange different types of slang but they still know what one another means
I was an inmate on Rikers Island in the 80s and 90s. I have been in HDM, C-76, C-74, C95, C-71 and the Beacon. I knew so many corrections officers, people I grew up with went to school with,it was common. I also got poked in the back with an icepick in HDM ( House of Detention for Men. ) If I had of been thinking I should have sued because my classification was not high enough to be in that building which at the time was the toughest on the Island. Wild times😑😬🤨
@@DBMoshuaare you sure it's not too late to sue? Were you unaware that you shouldn't have been in that building at the time? Because if you were (or if you can say you were unaware) you may still have a case. I'm in the UK, and I know laws vary in different countries, but it might be worth at least looking into it 🤷🏼♀️
I have a friend that became a cop. He still lives on the block. Always protected the fellas when he could. That is a unique person. Was a sincerely good person. Never forgot where he came from. He looks white but he boriqua. They don't make them like that no more. His mom played a big part in that.. im fortunate to call him a friend. His patience was unmatched 😂.
You know that cop that lost his life in that fier in Coney Island was a very good friend of mine him and his father are very good people his dad retired a long time ago
Thank you for this. I must say though.... You really REALLY need to release an uncut/unfiltered version of this. Not sure why you said he can cuss than went ahead and beeped out all his cuss words. Many times, I had to rewind to guess what he was trying to say, and when listening to it in the background, since the floor noise is so low, I couldn't tell if he was pausing his speech, or it was silenced out. This likely isn't going to be monetized anyway; but if so, release both please!! Thank you for this amazing podcast anyhow.
Speaking comfortably versus needed to unnecessarily watch your language. RUclips however demonitizes vid for cussing. Agreed on making a full version available though.
Exactly. Dont know why he needs to censor anyways - people cuss on joe rogan all the time. No issue. Maybe it’s cuz the number of followers or something
Nobody wants to tell their podcast guess that they can't cuss, people cuss without realizing. If you want the guess to express himself in a genuine matter with no distractions then no cussing is the last thing you wanna do
This interview is all over the place.. Gary deff saved this one cuz this guy kept asking questions he already answered so he obviously wasn’t listening and cutting him off in mid conversation.. good topic just gotta listen up and let ‘em speak
Interrupting gets super annoying & a lotta people never finish his videos. He should watch a bit of joe rogan & maybe he’ll learn something cuz it’s really frustrating.
The point of interviews is to hear the guests story. The interviewer is too keep it on track & getting the best story but im thinking some ppl think it's all about them but with a guest to enhance their conversation. It's abit weird tbh.
If ur from the East coast. Everyone knows how notorious this jail is. People have been calling for it to get shutdown for years and years. The inmates rule the jail. Completely understaffed and completely drug ridden.
@diangelo6686 There's a difference between a small town jail torturing 10 inmates and a NYC jail torturing millions over the years it's been open. Neither is right but the small town jail doesn't have the same impact because of the numbers
I like how you give your accounts "on the real". I've been through what you've been through (divorce, child support etc.) I'm from the South Bronx, also we are Brothers... Semper Fi! I'm a subscriber now and your book is on order. Keep doin' what you're doin' and educate these youngsters. Much respect!
Funny thing is I took the test to be a NYC CO during the same period. I even went to the Rikers Island orientation but ultimately opted out. It is fascinating to know what I missed.😥
Im a retired U.S Marine from Harlem also, i grew up on 111th street right around corner from central park, during the 60's and 70's harlem was going through the heroin epidemic this was years before crack, but despite it i had a good childhood all the adults on the block looked out for the kids, everyone knew everyone else, after high school graduation i also enlisted in the marine corps in 1978,
I remember him as a rookie in c-76, I worked and retired (22yrs), I had a great career, yeah it is/was a tough job.......everyday is not tough though, but when it goes down, it goes down.
I worked at Rikers in 1988-1989 as a Plumbing contractor upgrading to higher capacity Hot water heaters. We were in the Open Barracks 60 inmates. The C.Os. were supposed stay w us in the bathrooms while we worked. The Big Mama Female C.O.s would disappear for 2-3 hours at a Clip, leaving us two plumbers alone with 60 inmates Thanks B----. I was 19 Built and a tough Queens kid and my partner was about 40. Two Tours in Vietnam, Tattoos, 1% Biker..also played Pro Football. They call.him PITBULL.He'd give them cigarettes so they liked us....Thank God we Never got attacked . We got friendly with this big Italian C. O. 6 foot 5 325lbs..Former D 1 Defensive lineman...Scarred up fists 👊 as big as Cantelopes. He was cool but LOVED the mayhem and violence. He proudly showed us his multiple scars and stab wounds. He was gleeful, giddy and very proud of this. He said the best part of a week was suiting up for the Goon Sqaud "to break motherF'ing heads!! ." Matt NYC
who out there fought cases, in C-95 AMKC late 90's or early 2000's and remembers officer Palmer? been a long time since i went up in New York but i still remember some of those dudes like yesterday.
Damn spanking a gangsta in front of the gang and saying out loud “ I know your mother “ Is CRAZY WILD that shit will have ninjas clowning you like your moms is for the cops That shit will turn you into king Von
Great books. Thought you might be able to say those things you couldn’t. My time was simple. Survive. I did 9 years 12 years out now. So being out longer then I was in is now a anniversary date! Don’t do it! Life out here is so much better!
I was on the verge of homelessness when hired by corrections. Inmates never bothered me. Many were decent men. Some helped me out. Fellow staff slept with inmates, brought them contraband, helped them escape, and snitched on others. I saw food trays leftover on the delivery cart. Knowing they were being returned to throw out, I grabbed one for myself. A woman manger ratted me out. My supervisor dismissed it. Cops hated us because so many CO's get arrested. Corrections was more racial than in the military. I was happier quitting that schit job than when getting hired. I'm a runner and run 40 miles weekly. On a very hot day, I saw a Rikers CO running while pulling an automobile tire. This was a physical feat like a Rocky Balboa fight. That officer was with ESU. He was very competent, kind, and strong. Good man for the job.
1st time subscriber, who only seen a handful of videos. You have something special going on with this channel: the guests and their stories..... but you've got to let stories be told.
A FEW CORRECTIONS (No pun intended), if I may: For the commenter that took exception to the title of prison "guard," please know that this is the appropriate terminology, since the reality is that none of these people are hired to "correct" any prisoner or any part of the system. They are there to "guard" the prison's security and ensure that its inmates do not escape. Secondly, when a guard just arbitrarily assaults one prisoner just to strike fear into other prisoners, that is called Assault in the first degree. A crime! And remember, Heyward says this was done randomly! Then he spoke about a secret squad of guards who are selected to beat up prisoners on personal vendetttas. These guards used to be an exclusive "white boys club" that took great joy in physically assaulting their predominantly black prisoners. And when the system had to hire more black and brown guards, those new recruits had to prove themselves (like Heyward) by beating up their own childhood friends and neighbors. So are these the people that deserve to be called "correctional " officers?
Yes. They "CORRECTED" the problem(s) that occurred ON THE SPOT! "Corrections Officer" is in fact the "correct" nomenclature for the position because they "CORRECT" issues as they arise. A Prison Guard sounds more like a person "GUARDING THE PRISON" and not the actual inmates.
The shirt is epic!! Lol he fully embraced his lifestyle frfr!! But really makes me believe training day came from a true story. I think i seen the docu about it. Happens more than we will ever know. How else do they think big ass cell phones are getting in?!?! They aint sticking that shit up they ass and getting through a metal detector. Its the officers bringing em in and getting paid for one phone more than they make in a month.
A good interviewer will let the person being interviewed actually finish what they need to say, not cut them off constantly. Please learn from this otherwise u will not progress.
I'm a new subscriber to your channel and let me just say this: There's corruption in every level of high paying law enforcement jobs, especially with corrections and police (NYCDOC, NYSDOCCS and NYPD). Let's keep it real, some people who are in this field are passing the psychological exams with flying colors, and are giving their respective employers a bad name. Corruption has been going on since the beginning of time. Each of these employers needs to change how they screen future employees because this system of corruption is not going anywhere. It's sad on so many levels, and it's really not worth it.
this man is on the money, I'm just a few years younger than him...I'm an 80s kid, I grew up in Brooklyn...no one was talking college it was take this test and take that test CORRECTIONS, MTA, POST OFFICE, SANITATION. (before I get attacked, I am not speaking for EVERY household in the hood) but my family was all about getting that state or city job with a pension and benefits, that was the lottery ticket out of the hood.
He went from the story of FECES TO THE FACE and switched to NOW LET's GET BACK TO YOUR CHILDHOOD!! WTF????? 60 min wouldn't do this....Joe Rogan wouldn't even do this... WTF Happened?
I just commented this about 6 times 😂 his guests are really good but his skills are abysmal & he should watch joe rogan & learn something - a thousand times saying “yea”, constantly interrupting.. comes off as way into himself. Why interrupt every guest? Just dont invite them & interview urself cuz it seems that’s what he’s like. 🫤
*"You're going to see people that you know."* That's what happens when you live in a country that has only 5% of the world's population yet houses 25% of the world's prison population smh! Seeing old friends in jail shouldn't be normal while working as a CO but we're at a point where in some cities/states, a DUI or possession charge means, for some reason, the person must see the inside of a cell for at least a few months. Those places shouldn't be a punishment for minor offenses, they need to be a place where we put people that are actually dangerous! Slowly, it's turned from that into the main place used to house the mentally ill, addicts and petty thieves. Our justice system is so backwards, I've watched addicts go in and out of prison for stuff like sales and seen actual violent felons get probation for their SECOND charge of using a pew pew to hurt somebody. Really?!? I guess a 120lb woman who's been on dope for 15 years and sells to support her habit is more of a risk to the community than a 210lb man who's shown that he'll get a pew pew, legally or illegally plus he's also not afraid to use it either 🤦 I just don't get it, in cities like LA you have to do something extreme to get arrested in 2023 because they just don't have room in the jails and the entire DOC is overcrowded. Meanwhile, other cities are are putting people away for nothing, stuff where there's not even a victim. Is it impossible to find a middle ground? There's gotta be a happy medium where people aren't openly using or intoxicated on every corner of a major city while also not giving violent felons their 20th slap on the wrist either. I had some hope with Oregon and their decriminalization of everything but they couldn't even get that right, instead of using their resources to get people treatment instead of jail, they just made using in public legal, handed them over to the black market and walked away... Yeah, I don't think anybody is surprised THAT didn't work! Just because you can't police your way out of a problem doesn't mean you give up, you figure out how to remove the criminal element and figure out what actually does work ie treatment, replacement therapy, employment, etc. It's been proven to be successful in multiple other countries but like anything, it's only going to work if they do everything correctly!
I been watching a few versions of your show from different time periods and I gotta say this was the UGLIEST set design ever. Stick with the one you have presently (in mid summer 2024). Perfect
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Johnny you’re not tough Stop acting like you threw hands in prison
He's a cool dude I remember and he wasn't in the streets like that he used to play 🏀 when he was younger never known him to sell drugs as a youth he was cool with every one
Tht was corny why not let him finish his story
Stop interrupting your guests. Let them tell the god damn stories they're there to tell.
Did your work and bid, but still too green from fascination to shut the fuck and let them talk sometimes. I came from the early parts of your channel where you told your stories. Let them tell theirs.
This guy did such a good job looping back to the original story after you ask 10 questions when hes telling the story
I know it made me so mad
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You really gotta allow your guest to finish telling the stories before cutting them off. He kept trying to tell a story about his friend, but you kept asking questions in between. 🤦♂️
Lol foreal I said the same thing
I like the way he asks the questions. He was asking the questions as soon as I thought of them. He is a good interviewer. Gary, however, struggles a lot to express his thoughts, so I believe he did a good job. Hope his book was explained a lot better than his way of talking.
He always steps on his guests. That's why he plateaued. Too worried about hairline not getting better as an interviewer.
Tnx now i dont need to watch it
I hear you..but THATS HIS STLYE!! its more conversational than astraight up boring interview. I like it Matt NYC
Love when Johnny acts like he knows what he’s talking about and his guest has to correct him. At least a dozen times an episode.
Maaaannnnn, you said it! That is absolutely the most off putting trait about him. I mean here’s this white kid from the west coast, Oregon to be exact, that’s acting as though he knows all there is to know about this hustle life, thug life, gangster life. So he’s listened to rap most his life and watched some movies and now he’s the top gangster? Look how obsessed he is about east coast drug game and culture. How many gangsters and kingpins come out of Oregon? None I’ve heard of. If he’d just humble himself instead of acting as though his listening to rap equated to real experience or knowledge he’d be liked a lot more. But he can’t, he wants to fit in soooo bad and seem so down he acts as if he’s lived that life because he pushed some weed in Oregon to some white kids. Big difference than pushing crack in NYC to D.C. Just chill Johnny. You don’t need to prove yourself.
The Johnny Mitchel Show.. where Johnny never lets his guest finish a sentence.
Unwatchable.
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Yep. It's too much. You see it all the time with these podcasters. No one can just listen. It makes the interviews unwatchable. I unsubbed after listening to about 1/3 of this. Same for Koncrete/Danny Jones. Dude cuts everyone off and rages hard when guests won't agree with him.
the worst part is him putting the end of the interview behind a pay wall smh scum
I worked alongside Mr Heyward in the same facility on Rikers Island. His book Corruption Officer is a very good read. While much of what Mr Heyward states is true he left out how COs on Rikers are also brutally attacked by inmates. The vast majority of Correction Officers in our facility were outstanding individuals. Mr Heyward made some bad decisions, while he was lucky to only get a two year sentence for cooperating , he still answered for his bad decisions and tells a very compelling life story that many can relate to. While myself being retired for 14 years after working 20 years as a NYC Correction Officer, my personal opinion..Rikers Island is to be FORGOTTEN!!.
Have you ever considered writing a book yourself? I bet you've seen enough crazy shxt working as a correctional officer to fill a book! And it's such a popular genre, books like that tend to sell really well. Just the mention of "Rikers Island" gets people's attention up straight away.
@chloewright1 or just a podcast or vid re telling some crazy prison stories. I'd watch for sure.
I’m a COII in A Midwest State facility .. dirty co s make rest look bad . No disrespect but we have a lot get caught up. Can’t believe he only got 2 years he s lucky .
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We did a thankless job… we did our best with what we had to work with.
My Dad was a Captain at Rikers. He retired in 1994. He was their during the AIDS and crack years of the 80's. Told me and my brother crazy stories. He never brought the job home, and was such a gentleman considering he was around the worst of the worst for 20 years.
Your dad sounds like the man! Only someone truly mentally strong can keep work and home separate (especially that kind of atmosphere) so salute to your pops 🫡
@robkirby5565 thanks man
I came across the biggest italian POS criminal cop who treated people like shit, so manipulative with the good cop/bad cop routine which every cop is trained to do everyday which consists of lying and physically intimidating people to get what they want and then they are the first ones to talk about other people needing to be a gentleman to them!
Cops, all cops are rude, disrespectful, dishonest, entitled, manipulative and hypocritical POS criminals.
Don't Fool yourself, your dad was a POS criminal too especially while he was at work.
A lot of them will treat their own family and children with respect but then treat everyone else with entitlement, disrespect and extremely manipulative
@@robkirby5565 my ex girlfriend was a guard at rikers...she was crazy...its the same as doing a bid.
Alpha male 😊
I know Gary personally for many years. He's phenomenal at telling his story
Did he tell you about Lonnie ? 😂
This is why I like Ian Bicks podcasts better. He sits back, shuts up and lets the person telling their story, TELL THEIR STORY!! ..he only asks the questions that need to be asked when there’s a break in the story. He doesn’t interrupt them every 2 seconds 😑
Bick stories are more fraudulent than this hosts. He did Club Fed for White Collar crime and pretends like he was in a MAX😂
You must let your gf get pounded too.. Ian is a lillywhite bltch. Dudes stories are very obviously fake. He was a nobody and he's trying to act like he's in the know. He wasn't.
@@flipnotrab but that’s not the point. This host interrupts his guests too often. It affects the flow of the conversation.
Thanks for sharing this bc this host gets on my nerves and makes too many side eye comments towards black folks. I’ll check out the other guys RUclips.
This is one of the best interviews of ALL TIME. Hats off to you, Mr. Heyward - your honesty, your integrity, your authenticity.
I was a co on rikers and he’s spot on with everything
i was a correction officer from 1989 to 2007 on rikers this guy is right on the money!!
Ian bick just did a cast with a CO who ran rikers and got shipped up state for 5 years 10 months. Check it out
@@tiffaniflowers3707y would he ? 😂
Praising a Criminal 🙄
I once represented a client who was at rikers who got caught with a machete in rikers. It was brought in by a co and fellow blood. Our city is broken.
Not just the city, the country and especially our Justice system and prison system. Innocent guards being jumped so they can be beaten, stabbed, or even killed. Dirty guards bringing in contraband from something fairly soft like tobacco or electronics, to hard stuff like drugs and weapons. Finally the worst…Evil guards regularly abusing prisoners by destroying their stuff and generally making their lives even more miserable, to beatings and even sexual assaults, torture, and murder. Meanwhile these places are somehow supposed to be rehabilitating the people who committed the crimes that put them there. Smh, broken indeed.
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Bring him for another episode to talk about what happened to him while locked up
Oh ffs that's the part I've been waiting on in this episode. Fuck.
Bet he was fine, cool guys don't get shit
He was probably in protective custody,all that talk about smacking up cons
@@bretcappola6904, in New York when politicians ; judges ; celebrities down to Cops/Correction Officers (Police) when they get pinched/convicted they automatically go into PC , there's no getting around that primarily because no Warden is going to assume that liability factor ...
@@Bassman7 that's a defense mechanism,all cons who got some shit with them do stuff like that,cuz they want people to like them when they find out about their past,isn't matt cox a rat too? I'm pretty sure he is,he probably did the same shit
I love when he slipped up for a second. & referred to the prisoners as the Enemy! B4 quickly correcting himself; The Inmates!🤔🤯😉
😂To be fair every inmate is your enemy so he ain't wrong
Once a pig always a pig, when he was in the pound he probably hated his celly, hated all the oppressed around him and related better with the pigs that locked him up every night
@@soullessemperor6572maybe your enemy, not mine,he was a dirty pig,,way worse than a convict,the cons didn't take a oath
@@bretcappola6904 im not saying your wrong i hate pigs just as much as you just saying no one in prison is your friend no one
@@soullessemperor6572 I agree and disagree,there is alot of snakes in the grass, and fake smiles, but after being on blocks with guys 5,6, or even 7 years, I have developed a few friendships and have a few life's that at the very least I remember to send a Xmas card to with some flicks
It's definitely a high volume facility, but this shyt happens all across the country. Everyday. I could listen to this dude all day.✌️🌲🍄👽🛸💫🌌
I'm a retire Correctional administrator from CA, 29 years from the bottom to the top. C/O's who become compromised are basically suckers who get easily played/manipulated by convicts with game. Once compromised, the convicts never let the sucker off the hook.
What could the C.O do the day he decides he don’t wanna play along ?
@@thestonedprince Pretty much a no-win situation. You can tell on yourself and get fired, or continue until you get caught, possibly convicted and/or incarcerated. Beat option: Transfer, stay clean and hope nobody tells on you once you're gone. Best option: write them up (report) the same day they ask, then others will know you aren't so dumb. A pension can be well into the millions, be smart.
SORRY CAN'T CONTINUE HE JUST KEEPS CUTTING HIM OFF. ILL TRY TO FIND HIS STORY SOME PLACE ELSE.
Knowing that Johnny is from the Pacific Northwest and this cat is from the northeast, it’s interesting hearing them exchange different types of slang but they still know what one another means
Business is always about knowing Each other and trusting eachother😊
That shirt he wearing is straight diabolical
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That shirt is fire! Big meaning.
@@AkronKid330 yea pretty creative
It always ends bad! Remember that before you do something like this dude. No matter where you do it at. IT ALWAYS ENDS BAD!
You must be a Jay Williams fan too
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Definitely one of my favorite interview..got to get his book ASAP
I was an inmate on Rikers Island in the 80s and 90s. I have been in HDM, C-76, C-74, C95, C-71 and the Beacon. I knew so many corrections officers, people I grew up with went to school with,it was common. I also got poked in the back with an icepick in HDM ( House of Detention for Men. ) If I had of been thinking I should have sued because my classification was not high enough to be in that building which at the time was the toughest on the Island. Wild times😑😬🤨
Glad your out...
@@junebuchholtz287 Thank you. Thank you Jesus 🙏😅
@@DBMoshuaare you sure it's not too late to sue? Were you unaware that you shouldn't have been in that building at the time? Because if you were (or if you can say you were unaware) you may still have a case. I'm in the UK, and I know laws vary in different countries, but it might be worth at least looking into it 🤷🏼♀️
@@chloewright1 I'll check out the statute of limitations,but that was a very long time ago. Thanks for your concern and positive input.🫶🙏
You lying ass
I'm not going to lie this officer hooked me up when I was on Rikers island it was like good fellas with him there #realtalk
With the garlic too? 🤪
Cap
I have a friend that became a cop. He still lives on the block. Always protected the fellas when he could. That is a unique person. Was a sincerely good person. Never forgot where he came from. He looks white but he boriqua. They don't make them like that no more. His mom played a big part in that.. im fortunate to call him a friend. His patience was unmatched 😂.
You know that cop that lost his life in that fier in Coney Island was a very good friend of mine him and his father are very good people his dad retired a long time ago
Life goes on !
Thank you for this. I must say though....
You really REALLY need to release an uncut/unfiltered version of this. Not sure why you said he can cuss than went ahead and beeped out all his cuss words. Many times, I had to rewind to guess what he was trying to say, and when listening to it in the background, since the floor noise is so low, I couldn't tell if he was pausing his speech, or it was silenced out. This likely isn't going to be monetized anyway; but if so, release both please!!
Thank you for this amazing podcast anyhow.
Speaking comfortably versus needed to unnecessarily watch your language. RUclips however demonitizes vid for cussing. Agreed on making a full version available though.
Exactly. Dont know why he needs to censor anyways - people cuss on joe rogan all the time. No issue. Maybe it’s cuz the number of followers or something
@@StellaAdler_Joe Rogan gets paid up front by Spotify, Johnny gets demonetized for racial/homophobic slurs
What a Story! And why are you showing this Fake story NOW! THIS STORY CAME OUT YEARS PAST! WHY NOW!!!!!
Nobody wants to tell their podcast guess that they can't cuss, people cuss without realizing. If you want the guess to express himself in a genuine matter with no distractions then no cussing is the last thing you wanna do
Ian Bick is the ultimate example of interviewing properly
This interview is all over the place.. Gary deff saved this one cuz this guy kept asking questions he already answered so he obviously wasn’t listening and cutting him off in mid conversation.. good topic just gotta listen up and let ‘em speak
Interrupting gets super annoying & a lotta people never finish his videos. He should watch a bit of joe rogan & maybe he’ll learn something cuz it’s really frustrating.
The point of interviews is to hear the guests story. The interviewer is too keep it on track & getting the best story but im thinking some ppl think it's all about them but with a guest to enhance their conversation. It's abit weird tbh.
This was a good story. I've always heard a lot about riker's island I don't know how that place still stays open seriously
Rikers needs to be closed. That place might be worst jail in the country.
I live 4 states away, and I've heard horror stories. You might be right about that
Def not there are some jails in rural America were they basically torture the inmates
If ur from the East coast. Everyone knows how notorious this jail is. People have been calling for it to get shutdown for years and years. The inmates rule the jail. Completely understaffed and completely drug ridden.
@diangelo6686 There's a difference between a small town jail torturing 10 inmates and a NYC jail torturing millions over the years it's been open. Neither is right but the small town jail doesn't have the same impact because of the numbers
Nah, come down to Alabama
I like how you give your accounts "on the real". I've been through what you've been through (divorce, child support etc.) I'm from the South Bronx, also we are Brothers... Semper Fi! I'm a subscriber now and your book is on order. Keep doin' what you're doin' and educate these youngsters. Much respect!
Funny thing is I took the test to be a NYC CO during the same period. I even went to the Rikers Island orientation but ultimately opted out. It is fascinating to know what I missed.😥
Would u change ur decision ?
Im a retired U.S Marine from Harlem also, i grew up on 111th street right around corner from central park, during the 60's and 70's harlem was going through the heroin epidemic this was years before crack, but despite it i had a good childhood all the adults on the block looked out for the kids, everyone knew everyone else, after high school graduation i also enlisted in the marine corps in 1978,
Free my boys from Harlem smh it’s hard to make it out
One of the top 3 interviews you done
Absolutely insane how everyone goes to prison a bum and comes out a kingpin! Amazing!
Definitely makes you think. It's about the story to raise awareness
MY MAN HEYWARD KOOL CO WHEN I WAS RUNNING THREW THE ISLAND AS A YOUNGIN 💯💯✅💯💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 GOOD INTERVIEW I NEED TO BE NEXT 💯🗣️🗣️🗣️✅✅✅
Gary is full of charisma for sure and a great storyteller , and can only have a bright future .
I remember him as a rookie in c-76, I worked and retired (22yrs), I had a great career, yeah it is/was a tough job.......everyday is not tough though, but when it goes down, it goes down.
Johnny this is your best interview by far great job brother
Sucks the best ones is a brother with a prison story
I worked at Rikers in 1988-1989 as a
Plumbing contractor upgrading to higher capacity Hot water heaters. We were in the
Open Barracks 60 inmates. The C.Os. were supposed stay w us in the bathrooms while we worked. The Big Mama Female C.O.s would disappear for 2-3 hours at a Clip, leaving us two plumbers alone with 60 inmates Thanks B----. I was 19 Built and a tough Queens kid and my partner was about 40. Two Tours in Vietnam, Tattoos, 1% Biker..also played Pro Football. They call.him PITBULL.He'd give them cigarettes so they liked us....Thank God we
Never got attacked . We got friendly with this big Italian C. O. 6 foot 5 325lbs..Former D 1 Defensive lineman...Scarred up fists 👊 as big as Cantelopes. He was cool but LOVED the mayhem and violence. He proudly showed us his multiple scars and stab wounds. He was gleeful, giddy and very proud of this. He said the best part of a week was suiting up for the Goon Sqaud "to break motherF'ing heads!! ." Matt NYC
Your a d i ck
i read his book about 7 years ago it was a very good read couldnt put the book down all your interviews be lit lol salute 💯💯
What’s the book tittle
Gary's stories are too damn good!!
What a fascinating interview.
This mans story is so damn interesting.
Top marks my man for getting him in.
Gary Heyward is speaking the truth about correctional officers and jail life.
Jail-Prison life. Them 2 r completely different !
My mother worked 30 years in corrections in Michigan. The stories she has will always haunt me.
He seems like a genuinely good dude. And his crime was basically bringing some relieve to the convicts.
Except when he was smacking dudes up
@@bretcappola6904 Except then yes :D
Relief*
Relief? 🤔
@@jimmyjackson2361 lol, relief, what was he blowing them too?
He asked if he could curse
Johnny: "YEAH!😩😄"
*censors it*
who out there fought cases, in C-95 AMKC late 90's or early 2000's and remembers officer Palmer?
been a long time since i went up in New York but i still remember some of those dudes like yesterday.
I remember palmer. C95 reception.
Brother Palmer is gone RIP
It was like that in Cool County Jail.
Fights kick off...
Door opens...
Guards come in and beat anyone within reach brutally.
How can that age ?
That was friggin epic! Mad respect and another job with the city. Only in New York!! 😂😂
Atlanta as well
His shirt (given his background) is elite 🔥🔥🔥
Damn spanking a gangsta in front of the gang and saying out loud
“ I know your mother “
Is CRAZY WILD
that shit will have ninjas clowning you
like your moms is for the cops
That shit will turn you into king Von
Such a good interview.
Allowed the guest to talk
Asked very good question, well structured and built it up
10/10
Did we watched the same interview, bc he kept interrupting idk what u was watching
“We pounded him out” is wild
This interview was all over the place!
Great books.
Thought you might be able to say those things you couldn’t.
My time was simple.
Survive.
I did 9 years 12 years out now.
So being out longer then I was in is now a anniversary date!
Don’t do it!
Life out here is so much better!
Amen . Enjoy life n the beautiful women my G. I don’t kno wat u did but don’t fall back for the devil trap !
I was on the verge of homelessness when hired by corrections. Inmates never bothered me. Many were decent men. Some helped me out. Fellow staff slept with inmates, brought them contraband, helped them escape, and snitched on others. I saw food trays leftover on the delivery cart. Knowing they were being returned to throw out, I grabbed one for myself. A woman manger ratted me out. My supervisor dismissed it. Cops hated us because so many CO's get arrested. Corrections was more racial than in the military. I was happier quitting that schit job than when getting hired.
I'm a runner and run 40 miles weekly. On a very hot day, I saw a Rikers CO running while pulling an automobile tire. This was a physical feat like a Rocky Balboa fight. That officer was with ESU. He was very competent, kind, and strong. Good man for the job.
He reminds me of Carl Winslow from family matters 😂
😂
😂😂😂
"Nobody wants to be a correction officer" so true. Pd, Sanitation, FD are like the golden careers in NYC.
1st time subscriber, who only seen a handful of videos. You have something special going on with this channel: the guests and their stories.....
but you've got to let stories be told.
I gotta get the premium for this and a few others man your podcast is refreshing got me at the edge of my seat all the time
GREAT INTERVIEW 👏 👏 👏
A FEW CORRECTIONS (No pun intended), if I may: For the commenter that took exception to the title of prison "guard," please know that this is the appropriate terminology, since the reality is that none of these people are hired to "correct" any prisoner or any part of the system. They are there to "guard" the prison's security and ensure that its inmates do not escape. Secondly, when a guard just arbitrarily assaults one prisoner just to strike fear into other prisoners, that is called Assault in the first degree. A crime! And remember, Heyward says this was done randomly! Then he spoke about a secret squad of guards who are selected to beat up prisoners on personal vendetttas. These guards used to be an exclusive "white boys club"
that took great joy in physically assaulting their predominantly black prisoners. And when the system had to hire more black and brown guards, those new recruits had to prove themselves (like Heyward) by beating up their own childhood friends and neighbors. So are these the people that deserve to be called "correctional " officers?
Yes. They "CORRECTED" the problem(s) that occurred ON THE SPOT! "Corrections Officer" is in fact the "correct" nomenclature for the position because they "CORRECT" issues as they arise. A Prison Guard sounds more like a person "GUARDING THE PRISON" and not the actual inmates.
There’s always one intellectual douche in the chat. 🤣 remind me of Al Sharpton. 🤨
this makes perfect sense
Production team kudos! whoever you are most docs camera mics dont be on point like this. you really brought this alive. and i subbed
Sound man def did his thing on this one... I was peeping that mic set-up (Shure mics & Roland cables)
He has to do a audio version of the book put it on audible
Why’s the interviewer like so shocked at everything , “right right wooooooowwwwww” 😮
Right, he's laying it on thick. I feel like he's totally uninterested in this guy's story. Sounds and looks so fake
That hair transplant finally starting to look good Johnny.
This guy was in the kalief Browder documentary on Netflix
Another embarrassment to the corrections officers who took an oath…garbage
All of yours C.O are the same. Bleed blue.. well I’ll say it now. You can kiss my ass..
His book is very solid - the latest edition corrects the first edition's grammatical errors.
But did they take out n change n hide info ?
The shirt is epic!! Lol he fully embraced his lifestyle frfr!!
But really makes me believe training day came from a true story. I think i seen the docu about it. Happens more than we will ever know. How else do they think big ass cell phones are getting in?!?! They aint sticking that shit up they ass and getting through a metal detector. Its the officers bringing em in and getting paid for one phone more than they make in a month.
The Rampart precent in LA. That's was the Training Day Story.
Officers Civilians and they drop it off where inmates work and clean
Training day type of cops been around since KKK
FLASHBACKS AS HELL HEAIJG MY MAN HEYWARD TELL THESE STORIES IT WAS CRAZY IN THERE ALARMS BACK TO BACK
2 years? Nah..... He snitched... And I don't blame him for doing so but he should just admit it.
This was.great. This is the second or 3rd time visiting your channel. Hitting the like button
I seen this guy,and heard his story on vlad a couple years ago . He’s a wild man.😂 He seems very genuine.
I’m from the UK and I have heard about Rikers island
This man is a C.O LEGEND
Legend?? Smh
Damn this was a wild story right here. Glad you got yourself together.
it was something different instead of same old stories.thumbs up-
I'm cleaning my house while I'm listening to this and I swear I keep thinking he's interviewing DMX. Sounds just like him at certain points.
A good interviewer will let the person being interviewed actually finish what they need to say, not cut them off constantly. Please learn from this otherwise u will not progress.
I'm a new subscriber to your channel and let me just say this: There's corruption in every level of high paying law enforcement jobs, especially with corrections and police (NYCDOC, NYSDOCCS and NYPD). Let's keep it real, some people who are in this field are passing the psychological exams with flying colors, and are giving their respective employers a bad name. Corruption has been going on since the beginning of time. Each of these employers needs to change how they screen future employees because this system of corruption is not going anywhere. It's sad on so many levels, and it's really not worth it.
this man is on the money, I'm just a few years younger than him...I'm an 80s kid, I grew up in Brooklyn...no one was talking college it was take this test and take that test CORRECTIONS, MTA, POST OFFICE, SANITATION.
(before I get attacked, I am not speaking for EVERY household in the hood)
but my family was all about getting that state or city job with a pension and benefits, that was the lottery ticket out of the hood.
His crossover shirt is wild😂
I can't stop trying to figure it out 😂
Incredible interview!!!! I’m joining patreon to hear the rest !!!! Awesome job!!!! 👏 👏
I thought Johnny done time he sounds like he aint done a day inside 😂😂😂😂
Trust and believe, NYC brothers are on a whole different level . Their brash and confident and street savvy.
He went from the story of FECES TO THE FACE and switched to NOW LET's GET BACK TO YOUR CHILDHOOD!! WTF????? 60 min wouldn't do this....Joe Rogan wouldn't even do this... WTF Happened?
I just commented this about 6 times 😂 his guests are really good but his skills are abysmal & he should watch joe rogan & learn something - a thousand times saying “yea”, constantly interrupting.. comes off as way into himself. Why interrupt every guest? Just dont invite them & interview urself cuz it seems that’s what he’s like. 🫤
Oooh I’m ready for this one. 💪🏼🔥
You won't be smiling when you see Rikers Island .
Facts
Noone smiling on rikers Island
@NEUTRALDROP Hey is that Mooney Dashcam Sr?
"Aint no smiling on Rikers island nikka"-Shampoo
NORE 40 island
He definitely seen a lot of dudes in there from his projects the blood culture was heavy Uptown in 97-2007
*"You're going to see people that you know."*
That's what happens when you live in a country that has only 5% of the world's population yet houses 25% of the world's prison population smh! Seeing old friends in jail shouldn't be normal while working as a CO but we're at a point where in some cities/states, a DUI or possession charge means, for some reason, the person must see the inside of a cell for at least a few months. Those places shouldn't be a punishment for minor offenses, they need to be a place where we put people that are actually dangerous! Slowly, it's turned from that into the main place used to house the mentally ill, addicts and petty thieves. Our justice system is so backwards, I've watched addicts go in and out of prison for stuff like sales and seen actual violent felons get probation for their SECOND charge of using a pew pew to hurt somebody. Really?!? I guess a 120lb woman who's been on dope for 15 years and sells to support her habit is more of a risk to the community than a 210lb man who's shown that he'll get a pew pew, legally or illegally plus he's also not afraid to use it either 🤦
I just don't get it, in cities like LA you have to do something extreme to get arrested in 2023 because they just don't have room in the jails and the entire DOC is overcrowded. Meanwhile, other cities are are putting people away for nothing, stuff where there's not even a victim. Is it impossible to find a middle ground? There's gotta be a happy medium where people aren't openly using or intoxicated on every corner of a major city while also not giving violent felons their 20th slap on the wrist either. I had some hope with Oregon and their decriminalization of everything but they couldn't even get that right, instead of using their resources to get people treatment instead of jail, they just made using in public legal, handed them over to the black market and walked away... Yeah, I don't think anybody is surprised THAT didn't work! Just because you can't police your way out of a problem doesn't mean you give up, you figure out how to remove the criminal element and figure out what actually does work ie treatment, replacement therapy, employment, etc. It's been proven to be successful in multiple other countries but like anything, it's only going to work if they do everything correctly!
It’s the USDOJ as a whole that’s the problem. You couldn’t fathom how deep this shit is it’s wicked
48:05 your mouth being agaped while lookin at another man like that is crazy my boi …this will be the biggest pause of the year …congrats 🎉🎉🎉 ⏸️⏸️⏸️
Let’s start there!😂
How this guy make all that money hustling & making best selling novels & his mom's still in the projects? Smh
Moms n grandmas is 2 women that’s set on living where they made a home at, they not leaving for nothing !
omg Gary can tell stories I can't wait to read the book
These questions are horrible 😫 especially the ones in the middle of a story. Can he finish with out a topic change. Damn.
I been watching a few versions of your show from different time periods and I gotta say this was the UGLIEST set design ever. Stick with the one you have presently (in mid summer 2024). Perfect
Should have just called it, The Kingpin of Rikers Island. Leave the cop/guard off of it. It would have gotten more views, I skipped over it like 10x
I was in rikers from 2004 to 2006 before sent upstate. I used to love the tobacco from OBCC TO THE BOX. I used to move money.
He's told him twice he never left the hood he was still living in the projects but that guy keeps asking him time and time again have them do that