I recently began listening classical music, and I can see that exists a whole world of enriching master pieces... It is really amazing how much posibilities you can hear, from XVc to our days... saludos!👋👋👏
Hats off to whoever placed the commercial precisely between the first and second movements. Usually commercials are dumped like a pile of dog crap in the middle of a movement in videos like this. This is the first time I've ever seen an advertiser exercise musical discretion on RUclips.
Wait, the advertisers themselves are the ones who place the ads? I didnt know. I thought that it wa sjust put in there randomly by an algorithm or something.
I started learning this piece when I was 11, and it was so much fun yo learn! It practices both hands very well, and requires good coordination with both hands.
This is just fantastic music to me. It's says so much about being infinitely positive. It's like being mocked by a very beautiful woman possibly a young princess or a game of hide frivolous and seek! The first movement. It has a wonderful sense of elation associated with it. I'd love to play it. I'm getting good enough! I've noticed the middle section has some harmonic progressions and thematic material in common with Hob.50 Movement 1. He must have been a good father figure to many of the figures in the Estherhazy household. Having lived with them for that long as one of the family and having been a prized friend of the father of the house. I think it's evident in the sound that he sees himself a a surrogate father to a favourite pupil or two. Some of the sonatas are tinged with great sadness when they marry and move away too. I see the sonatas as epic poems and a record of the what he was feeling in his relationship with them as a teacher and friend over time. It's so easy to see it as a purely academic and professional thing to play them but they are just written as methods of expressing love and affection between friends, teacher and pupil and never originally intended for worldwide broadcast. I can just picture the scene in my mind of some large palace and all the characters within it who's personalities change over time. I'm a prolific writer, poet and composer too and the beauty of being prolific is seeing how your feelings mature in the music or change in the poetry over time as an assemblage of compositions or writings. I love to attempt to follow in their footsteps by continuing the tradition of writing these lovely Classical sonatas and traditional methods of artistic expression in homage to them as well as for myself. I've written 21 full length sonatas myself and 400 poems plus and it's interesting to analyse how they fit into different emotional phases of my life now I'm older.
Caveat lector: ‘genial’ when used in English by Romance language speakers is a notorious false friend; I agree absolutely that this sonata is ‘geniale’ in Italian, but would suggest that it is not ‘genial’ in English.
Mozart and Haydn are similar in general. It is even said that they had a musical brotherhood and that Haydn would be first violinist in Mozart's string quartets.
Rubix 79 Absolutely disagree; very little of Mozart sounds like Haydn and vice-versa. Apart from using a similar late 18th century musical language, their composition techniques and the music they produced is entirely different - this sonata is 100% Haydn. And in answer to another comment, ‘father’ does not translate well into English.
Bavouzet audibly uses the Bernhard Zinck autograph copy as a source - which is dubious. Maybe the urtext refers back to that too, I don't know... I prefer the first edition published in Haydn's lifetime myself.
Bavouzet’s Haydn is outstanding, offering new insights on every page; very tasteful decoration of the repeats as well. Please stick to the Hoboken numbering of the sonatas - this is Hoboken XVI:37; adding the secondary Landon number (50) serves no purpose other than to cause confusion, especially as here where it is placed first.
@@tnsnamesoralong It’s K for Mozart and Scarlatti, BWV for JS Bach, Hob. for Haydn, and all the rest; to start messing with these universal catalogue systems is uninternational, and causes confusion. Haydn’s sonata Hob. XVI:50 is an entirely different late sonata, written in London.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 * What is your problem? I don't understand. In my video-title you can see: No.50, Hob.XVI/37. You cannot see Hob.XVI/50. nowhere, Another uploaders use No.50 too. * For this Haydn Piano Sonata, there are two catalogue system numbers. At Domenico Scarlatti there are three catalogue numbers: K(irkpatrick), (L)ongo, (P)estelli. Is it impossible accepting: the life is more complex than minimum requiered?
@@tnsnamesoralong If you do not understand my problem after I explained it, that’s fine. Regarding the Scarlatti catalogues, your point is just silly, and it demonstrates that you do not fully understand the issue. Firstly, Longo was supplanted long ago by Kirkpatrick in the manner that the lira, franc, mark, peseta and all the rest were replaced by the Euro - you don’t see prices listed in two currencies today, and you shouldn’t see Haydn, Scarlatti, or any other composer listed by two catalogue numbers either. Secondly, you appear to be unaware that even Ricordi - the original publishers of the Longo Scarlatti edition - have dropped Longo altogether; the new Ricordi edition use F numbers alongside the K ones, thus instigating yet another new numbering system (that will be used by nobody just like the P numbers). The F numbers are named after the editor, the delightful Emilia Fadini. When I see ‘Haydn Sonata 50’, I do not think of Hob. XVI:37, I think of Hob. XVI:50, and I suggest that is the more common viewpoint around the world.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 I understand: Hoboken catalogue is too old therefore it's fine, Kirkpatrick catalogue is too new therefore it's fine. And I'm silly.
My piano teacher just tasked me with this, because I played sonata in G my Attwood. I don't know what she is thinking! I have only been playing for a little over a year, this is impossible!
I'm from Italy, I brought this sonata to an Exam in October. I thought It was impossible too but If you study it hard you'll do it well... How old are you? Good life bro!!
The third movement is actually rather easy to play but is slightly challenging to play quickly. Overall it’s not too hard though since I’ve pretty much mastered it in less than a week
Very similar to Beethoven's style... Wonder why... 😂 I mean you just look at the start, two slightly different variations of the main theme repeated with a small transition between them in the middle.
The young Beethoven knew Haydn's music well, and Beethoven took composition lessons from Haydn when he (Ludwig) arrived in Vienna. The music of late Haydn and early Beethoven are not all that far apart.
@@hemiolaguy Late Mozart and Middle Period Beethoven are also not that far apart in style. In fact I consider Mozart's late works to be foreshadowing of what is to come with Beethoven. You can see what I mean if you compare Symphony no. 40 in G minor with Beethoven's Fifth. Very similar symphonies they are, even down to the motivic level they are similar to each other.
Caters Carrots Interesting; for myself the sonatas of Mozart and Beethoven are a world apart, totally different keyboard technique and writing for very different instruments just for starters. Additionally, Beethoven’s general composition technique is rather closer to Haydn than it is to Mozart - much more motivic and thematic development for example. Most obviously, Beethoven’s *30* sonatas (sic) - ie all of them except Opus 49 - are one of the greatest achievements in the entire piano repertoire, whilst Mozart’s sonatas on the whole do not represent his greatest music (though some are very fine). Similarly, I can hear very little of Mozart 40 in Beethoven 5 where once again, the tonal journey from c minor to C major via 3rd related keys is pure Haydn - the model for Beethoven 5 is clearly Haydn 95 with its almost identical tonal sequence of 3rd-related movements, and journey from conflict to resolution. Mozart 40 stands as a highly original monument that no composer - Haydn and Beethoven included - ever attempted to emulate. The character of g minor and c minor are entirely different, as indeed is the mood, content, and almost everything else in these two symphonies written about twenty years apart; they have almost nothing in common.
hemiolaguy You’re quite right in all you say; just beware of overstating the importance and influence of the lessons which were focussed on Haydn teaching Beethoven counterpoint from the manual by Fux, and anyway only lasted about 14 months in total.
I neeed answers, this is just mind blowing, the similarities bethween them both are just mind blowing!!!! Edit: I think this came before the two pianos sonata..... I found it was published in "1780 or before" and Mozart's doble piano sonata at 1781.... (Mozart still better btw lol)
John Harrington You are quite right that there is a real antiquated feel about the thickly scored almost Sarabande-type slow movement with its stately French style baroque dotted rhythms and thick chords. Haydn does use baroque forms more than you might suspect, particularly fugues which appear in Symphonies 3, 13, 40, and 70 for example, in a number of string quartets, and even in his baryton trios. Haydn is however 100% a ‘Classical’ composer in response to the other reply to your original point. The rest of this very popular and well-known sonata is quite light weight rococo, and innocent.
A Little Life brought me here
Did you already finish reading the book?
Did you already finish reading the book?
me too!
Me as well, it is very exciting and optimistic.
Same!
Jude is very talented
I was looking for a comment just like yours ! I am currently reading A little life ... And...well you know
incredibly talented
He is incredible
Who?
indeed
00:00 01-Allegro con brio
05:47 02-Largo e sostenuto
08:58 03-Finale. Presto, ma non troppo
Thank you~
thanks
Thanks
Thank you!😊
✅✅✅✅✅
I'm currently on that page in "A LITTLE LIFE"
im now also currently on that page
EXPO
Theme 1 0:00
Transition 0:12
Theme 2 0:26
Neo Chord 0:47
Codetta 0:55
DEV
1st part 2:12
2nd part 2:22
3rd Part 2:29
Nea Chord 2:35
RECAP
Theme 1 2:47
extension 2:57
Transition 3:10
Theme 2a 3:18
Theme 2b: 3:26
Nea Chord: 3:39
Closing Codetta 3:49
Embellishment 3:53
@@MrDog-fk1pd No I just timestamped everything for a class presentation
By nea you mean Neapolitan sixth right?
What was the recap the dev and the other one
I recently began listening classical music, and I can see that exists a whole world of enriching master pieces... It is really amazing how much posibilities you can hear, from XVc to our days... saludos!👋👋👏
An absolutely fascinaiting world waits for you...
Hats off to whoever placed the commercial precisely between the first and second movements. Usually commercials are dumped like a pile of dog crap in the middle of a movement in videos like this. This is the first time I've ever seen an advertiser exercise musical discretion on RUclips.
Wait, the advertisers themselves are the ones who place the ads? I didnt know. I thought that it wa sjust put in there randomly by an algorithm or something.
it's done automatically when the creator uses the chapters feature, you're doing a "hats off" to an AI lmao.
@@Whatismusic123you are pianist?
У меня не было рекламы.
Merci, Jean Efflam! C'est une chance et un bonheur d'écouter les sonates de Haydn avec vous! Avec toute mon admiration. 💚💚💚💚💚
The Largo is beautiful. I wouldn't have pegged it as Haydn if you played it without the other movements.
Recently started playing this masterpiece, I love it!
Same
Jesus that second movement is peak art
I started learning this piece when I was 11, and it was so much fun yo learn! It practices both hands very well, and requires good coordination with both hands.
A little life brought me there
same
1 частина
Г.П 00:00
С.П 00:13
П.П 00:26
З.П 00:56
Початок розробки 02:13
Реприза 02:46
2 частина
05:48
3 частина
Рефрен 8:59
1 епізод 09:30
Рефрен 10:03
2 епізод 10:33
Рефрен 11:16
I was looking for this sonata since I was six (it was in a game on win98), now 20 years later, and as piano-player I found it! Yeah!
Bogu hvala
Massive W
I didn't know the largo, it is impressive.
It like bach
My first ever piano sonata 😍 that was so long ago but it feels like yesterday
PudgeControlsTheWeather, dude me too, that was my first sonata ever
@@anniehlchangyou two are not normal lol. My first was like mozart sonata facile tf
I started with a Mozart Viennese Sonatina...
My first sonatas whole "theme" was like one "motive" from this gorgeous Haydens work
🤩
Now tell me how I’m gonna learn the first tempo for next week
EDIT: I didn't.
EDIT 2: I actually learnt the whole piece
Congrats!!
@@adamchaupiano thanks!
@@lucatia08 How did you learn in such a short amount of time? Also, congrats!
@@henrykwieniawski7233 thank you, I just practiced it every day.
This is never the tempo Haydn wanted. Play it like you think it's the best.
This is just fantastic music to me. It's says so much about being infinitely positive. It's like being mocked by a very beautiful woman possibly a young princess or a game of hide frivolous and seek! The first movement. It has a wonderful sense of elation associated with it. I'd love to play it. I'm getting good enough! I've noticed the middle section has some harmonic progressions and thematic material in common with Hob.50 Movement 1. He must have been a good father figure to many of the figures in the Estherhazy household. Having lived with them for that long as one of the family and having been a prized friend of the father of the house. I think it's evident in the sound that he sees himself a a surrogate father to a favourite pupil or two. Some of the sonatas are tinged with great sadness when they marry and move away too. I see the sonatas as epic poems and a record of the what he was feeling in his relationship with them as a teacher and friend over time. It's so easy to see it as a purely academic and professional thing to play them but they are just written as methods of expressing love and affection between friends, teacher and pupil and never originally intended for worldwide broadcast. I can just picture the scene in my mind of some large palace and all the characters within it who's personalities change over time. I'm a prolific writer, poet and composer too and the beauty of being prolific is seeing how your feelings mature in the music or change in the poetry over time as an assemblage of compositions or writings. I love to attempt to follow in their footsteps by continuing the tradition of writing these lovely Classical sonatas and traditional methods of artistic expression in homage to them as well as for myself. I've written 21 full length sonatas myself and 400 poems plus and it's interesting to analyse how they fit into different emotional phases of my life now I'm older.
I think this largo mvt inspired the great largo from Beethoven's Op. 10 No. 3. Both gorgeous.
"It’s going to be all right. I promise you, it will be." :’)
😢 felix
I play this and it’s very beautiful!!! 😍😉😄
Me too 😊❤🎉
This and some morning coffee
Bro ur like 10
Netflix Dovla bro u play Fortnite
What a joyful and lively performance!! Bravo!
4:40 these are very funny and playful sounds, loved It!
Wonderful played. And with small improvisations. I enjoyed every single notes. 😃🎶🎅
Jude is really good at playing piano damn
Help. why am I getting butterflies, a little life brought me here.
Page 103 a little life
Here from A little life
This was played beautifully! So inspiring!!
Beautiful Virtuoso!!
¡Genial Haydn!!
Caveat lector: ‘genial’ when used in English by Romance language speakers is a notorious false friend; I agree absolutely that this sonata is ‘geniale’ in Italian, but would suggest that it is not ‘genial’ in English.
The first movement always reminds me of a troop of jesters.
Great fun playing this work.
That is childhood. I start playing the piano at 9. And my biggest goal was to play this:)
Ja s 8
This is one of my exam piece. Glad to have it !
La primera sonata para piano de Haydn que escuche en la vida, hace como 20 años, aún me encanta
I just came here from A little life 😃✋
same
Bravo!!!
Yeh!!!
I know the first movement is by Haydn, but it sounds very much like Mozart. Anyways, I like it.
Rubix 79 that’s maybe bcs Haydn was Mozart’s teacher. And also it’s same period of classicism. So It can be simillar.
Mazart called Haydn his "father" so......
Mozart and Haydn are similar in general. It is even said that they had a musical brotherhood and that Haydn would be first violinist in Mozart's string quartets.
Rubix 79
Absolutely disagree; very little of Mozart sounds like Haydn and vice-versa.
Apart from using a similar late 18th century musical language, their composition techniques and the music they produced is entirely different - this sonata is 100% Haydn.
And in answer to another comment, ‘father’ does not translate well into English.
first mov's development section is SO good.
Dimi mi se racunar,Mora da je neki kvar+Doci ce mi Dimii car!
Koj kralj
Aj i to da nadem ispod haydnove sonate
@@josipjuric4258 ne sećam se ni sto sam ovo komentarisao
This saved me from failing piano lesson
Delightful!
One of the best, period .
This is very easy
@@bernardetecarneiro9220 probably easier than Impromptus by Schubert, but that's all :))
My piano teacher wanted me to play this, is she trying to kill my fingers?
or make them stronger, one of the two ;)
Lol same
Lol
My tip would be sticking to the suggested fingering!! It only makes sense later
Amazing❤!
😊
This recording makes me lose my self esteem every time I hear it because it’s so fast
i feel like its too fast tbh, trying to learn this atm and oh my days how do people play this fast
@@lottie9121 you can't argue it's not convincing though
Bavouzet audibly uses the Bernhard Zinck autograph copy as a source - which is dubious. Maybe the urtext refers back to that too, I don't know... I prefer the first edition published in Haydn's lifetime myself.
Very good!
Si, señor
anyone else here because of judy🥺
YES :,)
YESSS
Who's judy
@@pauliwiebitte a character from a wonderful and depressing book, who played this song to a really sad kid
One of my favorite books
x0,75 is how fast i can play this piece
same. I need to play this for some online evaluation may 31st.
@@jaeyounglee5410 hope you dont lag ahahah
@@beanos5105 lol thanks. My wifis awful though so i probably will.
@@jaeyounglee5410 how old are you? and which grade are you in?
@@beanos5105 im in 10th grade. tbh, im kinda slow compared to everyone else in my studio ┐(´(エ)｀)┌
Jude es muy talentoso entonces
Porque?
Don't listen at 2x speed
sounds like chipmunks in a way
Jude is so amazing
guess i have to read a little life now :¥
Sublime!!
Bavouzet’s Haydn is outstanding, offering new insights on every page; very tasteful decoration of the repeats as well.
Please stick to the Hoboken numbering of the sonatas - this is Hoboken XVI:37; adding the secondary Landon number (50) serves no purpose other than to cause confusion, especially as here where it is placed first.
Hoboken is not too simple, especially for the memory.Landon number is simple, unique and spreaded
@@tnsnamesoralong
It’s K for Mozart and Scarlatti, BWV for JS Bach, Hob. for Haydn, and all the rest; to start messing with these universal catalogue systems is uninternational, and causes confusion.
Haydn’s sonata Hob. XVI:50 is an entirely different late sonata, written in London.
@@elaineblackhurst1509
* What is your problem? I don't understand. In my video-title you can see: No.50, Hob.XVI/37. You cannot see Hob.XVI/50. nowhere, Another uploaders use No.50 too.
* For this Haydn Piano Sonata, there are two catalogue system numbers. At Domenico Scarlatti there are three catalogue numbers: K(irkpatrick), (L)ongo, (P)estelli. Is it impossible accepting: the life is more complex than minimum requiered?
@@tnsnamesoralong
If you do not understand my problem after I explained it, that’s fine.
Regarding the Scarlatti catalogues, your point is just silly, and it demonstrates that you do not fully understand the issue.
Firstly, Longo was supplanted long ago by Kirkpatrick in the manner that the lira, franc, mark, peseta and all the rest were replaced by the Euro - you don’t see prices listed in two currencies today, and you shouldn’t see Haydn, Scarlatti, or any other composer listed by two catalogue numbers either.
Secondly, you appear to be unaware that even Ricordi - the original publishers of the Longo Scarlatti edition - have dropped Longo altogether; the new Ricordi edition use F numbers alongside the K ones, thus instigating yet another new numbering system (that will be used by nobody just like the P numbers).
The F numbers are named after the editor, the delightful Emilia Fadini.
When I see ‘Haydn Sonata 50’, I do not think of Hob. XVI:37, I think of Hob. XVI:50, and I suggest that is the more common viewpoint around the world.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 I understand: Hoboken catalogue is too old therefore it's fine, Kirkpatrick catalogue is too new therefore it's fine. And I'm silly.
here for jude
Came here from shostokovichs concerto for piano and trumpet in which the beginning of this piece is almost 100% quoted
Love the 3rd movement!
Дуже гарне відео
Perfect.
Am I the only one, who thinks of Christmas while listening to the first movement?
And the third?.-
Nope! I do too. And, I, for some reason also think of the Nutcracker ballet dance when I hear this :P
Me too bro
Same here! I feel like New Year's Eve as well
i do too lol
Hello!🐧
Is amazing💓💓💓
Fantasic
Im plaing this right hnow.it's very hard to play~^^
omfg i just started too
@@bernardobortolotto6022 sameee
How hard is it? Harder that the turkish march?
Why everyone is playing this piece?
내 피아노 콩쿨곡.... 오랜만이네
Jedini razumijes ne gasiraj se
It was my last song before i graduated the musical school
I needed to play this at 0.25 speed to actually match my speed
3악장 Rondo
9:29 B주제
10:33 C주제
Anyone else from a little life?
yes
COOL!!!
My piano teacher just tasked me with this, because I played sonata in G my Attwood. I don't know what she is thinking! I have only been playing for a little over a year, this is impossible!
I'm from Italy, I brought this sonata to an Exam in October. I thought It was impossible too but If you study it hard you'll do it well... How old are you? Good life bro!!
The third movement is actually rather easy to play but is slightly challenging to play quickly. Overall it’s not too hard though since I’ve pretty much mastered it in less than a week
Same. I just need to work a bit on the first movement because my technique there is not brilliant
True
50번이 아니라 37입니다
Very similar to Beethoven's style...
Wonder why... 😂
I mean you just look at the start, two slightly different variations of the main theme repeated with a small transition between them in the middle.
The young Beethoven knew Haydn's music well, and Beethoven took composition lessons from Haydn when he (Ludwig) arrived in Vienna. The music of late Haydn and early Beethoven are not all that far apart.
@@hemiolaguy Late Mozart and Middle Period Beethoven are also not that far apart in style. In fact I consider Mozart's late works to be foreshadowing of what is to come with Beethoven. You can see what I mean if you compare Symphony no. 40 in G minor with Beethoven's Fifth. Very similar symphonies they are, even down to the motivic level they are similar to each other.
Caters Carrots
Interesting; for myself the sonatas of Mozart and Beethoven are a world apart, totally different keyboard technique and writing for very different instruments just for starters.
Additionally, Beethoven’s general composition technique is rather closer to Haydn than it is to Mozart - much more motivic and thematic development for example.
Most obviously, Beethoven’s *30* sonatas (sic) - ie all of them except Opus 49 - are one of the greatest achievements in the entire piano repertoire, whilst Mozart’s sonatas on the whole do not represent his greatest music (though some are very fine).
Similarly, I can hear very little of Mozart 40 in Beethoven 5 where once again, the tonal journey from c minor to C major via 3rd related keys is pure Haydn - the model for Beethoven 5 is clearly Haydn 95 with its almost identical tonal sequence of 3rd-related movements, and journey from conflict to resolution.
Mozart 40 stands as a highly original monument that no composer - Haydn and Beethoven included - ever attempted to emulate.
The character of g minor and c minor are entirely different, as indeed is the mood, content, and almost everything else in these two symphonies written about twenty years apart; they have almost nothing in common.
hemiolaguy
You’re quite right in all you say; just beware of overstating the importance and influence of the lessons which were focussed on Haydn teaching Beethoven counterpoint from the manual by Fux, and anyway only lasted about 14 months in total.
Nice
Since Jae min didn’t play the whole song I came here to represent the viewers from Dodosoldollalasol
Me. ✋ I am learning and practicing it now because of Dodosolsollalasol.
Omg can u tell what episode he plays this in
@@rainny3410 the 9th
A W E S O M E I almost thought he was Haydn😂 His ornaments sound so Haydn-ish 4:40 O.O
00:00 - 1 часть
Mozart's sonata for two pianos?
Was Mozart still alive when this came out or has he already written his doble piano sonata?
I neeed answers, this is just mind blowing, the similarities bethween them both are just mind blowing!!!!
Edit: I think this came before the two pianos sonata..... I found it was published in "1780 or before" and Mozart's doble piano sonata at 1781....
(Mozart still better btw lol)
@@maravillaromerojoseadolfo164 thanks for your searching.
The largo sounds like it was composed in the baroque.
Haydn was born in the baroque era. (1732) He was 27 when Handel died.
John Harrington
You are quite right that there is a real antiquated feel about the thickly scored almost Sarabande-type slow movement with its stately French style baroque dotted rhythms and thick chords.
Haydn does use baroque forms more than you might suspect, particularly fugues which appear in Symphonies 3, 13, 40, and 70 for example, in a number of string quartets, and even in his baryton trios.
Haydn is however 100% a ‘Classical’ composer in response to the other reply to your original point.
The rest of this very popular and well-known sonata is quite light weight rococo, and innocent.
すごいンゴ！
Luigi’s Mansion 2 for 7 years old even Leo Muschialli in 2013.
page 103
0:00
0:25
3:58
4:33
5:04
My first sonata. Started @ 9-10 lol
Why is it 1 hour 29 minutes?
나도 이거치고싶은데 선생님은 친구한테 이거주심
(이거 악보보니까...그래..친구야 고생하겠구나^^ㅅㄱ띄)
Being a 12 year old with small hands, this is gonna suck
:I
It is very easy aftrr some practice belive me, i was also 12 when i started this piece
Je vous écris ça une fois pour toutes, je fais le plein depuis quelques jours.
wou!
Who is Jude? 🤔
08'57" Example 3-11
Learning this Because of school
1:53 2:35 good neapolitan 6th example
i came here bc of jude