Electrek does Norway: So much more than electric cars!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- We recently visited Norway to see firsthand how the country became an electric car paradise. But as it turns out, that's just a small part of the bigger story! You can read more about it on Electrek at: electrek.co/?p...
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Great to see you enjoyed Norway. I see you filmed a bit just a block down from my office in Oslo.
...and yes, I rode my eBike to work today (about 35 minutes each way, and today it was -10 degrees celsius in the morning).
Wow, you must bundle up pretty good to be able to do that. What kind of helmet do you use?
Terrific video ...living up here in Canada we share a similar climate to Norway and seeing Ebikes and Scooters in the snow is very cool :)
Micah, this my favorite videos that you produced and shared...
I think that what has prevented the US from following the Norwegian model is that in the US, special interest groups dictate to politicians what to do in congress. In addition, Norway has a better healthcare system and a better education system. I can go on, but the Theme is about Going Electric.
I do have a car, but I prefer to use my e-bike to do visit my customer base, perform my shopping. As a senior who lives in an extremely hilly area, I wouldn't try to do all of this on a traditional bike. With my second e-bike I can introduce friends to e-biking. There is plenty beautiful areas that are easier to access on a e-bike than by car. For example, in Southern California, there are hundreds of miles of beach bike paths. Riding on the beach bike paths on a e-bike allows one to go further and an appreciate the beauty of the different beaches on the coastline.
Going to an e-bike has allowed me to be better to the environment and maintain my mind and body health.
Better nothing. Not to mention comparing a homogeneous population and a population that is less the. Most states in the US is dumb, go ahead and keep doing it. Cars shouldn't be replaced and unless electric does everything better it has no place as being suggested as main transport. Public transport, no thanks.
@@anmc5315 Reading your comments make me think that you were under the influence of drugs, alcohol or both.
You had wrote "Most states in the US is dumb,". Really? How ironic your choice of words.
🤣😆🤣Thanks for the laughs.
It's fantastic to see what Norway has done with its country and culture , the government of Norway probably looks after it's people a lot better .
When you don't have Shell, Exxon, Mobil, and Chevron applying incredible political pressure to keep the oil and gas flowing to preserve their profits, I would imagine it's much easier for a country to go all in on electric and other sustainable power sources. Breaking the power of big oil will be the biggest challenge in the US.
Actually the government used to run one of the biggest oil companies in Norway when the greatest goods for electric cars was decided.
@@eirikrp82 sounds like the government controls oil and not the other way around.
@@mcslender2965 yes, way better than many other countries that have oil as a main source of income. But then we are also the worlds second biggest exporter of fish after china and that is kind of crazy when you look at the number of population and the size of the two countries.
I think because of our beautiful nature, the fishing industry that was established BEFORE oil, and most people living along the coast preservation of nature became a natural thing and oil company’s wishes second after that. But it’s only a guess.
There are so many people here that gets angry even when government wants to build wind turbines.
The problem in the states is not just politics, it's greedy politicians corrupt by political campaign money. They’re all money whores, most especially Republicans, they’ll the worst of the 2 parties, because they’re the ones who championed the horrible SCOTUS decision of Citizens United.
So the US Supreme Court has become a political arm of the Republican Party, as they have turned themselves into serving the interest of one party only, the Republican Party, and their members have no shame no belief in democracy, the Constitution or the rule of law, as we've seen the utter chaos ensued just in trying to elect a Speaker of the House of representatives. SMFH!
Trouble is these very companies are behind agenda2030 and electrifying everything. Because there are not enough electric batteries to fuel the world, or enough electricity to power them. And batteries only last 5 years.
The companies behind agenda2030 also want digital identities. CBDCs.
I am all for the environment.
But alas, this is a trick to enslave us all. Like the vaccines
Thank You, Micah. Now I want to go to Norway!!
I'd love to see Norway use wireless power/charging for their trams so they can get rid of all those overhead wires. Lead the way Norway!
Some wireless charging is tested in Trondheim the 3. largest city. In Bergen we use the overhead wires to charge and extend the route for the trollybus.
Beautiful shots! 📸 Love the drone shots too ✈️ I really enjoyed this video/ the views! 😍
Really great video and I've spent a lot of time in Norway. Really well done
Well done! One of the best articles from Electrek
Great job on the video Micah! Thanks for making it.
Nice job excellent video and photography. Norway has some unique advantages for electrifying their transport but they are showing the way to the rest of us as to what is possible.
Thank you Micah! That was great. 👍👍👊
Outstanding production values and content.
Wow, looks great Micah! Great vid
As a Norwegian citizen, I never really understood the magnitude of our electricification. I haven't travelled a lot, but I assumed the rest of the world had similar infrastructure. We hear about Hyperloops, and magnet trains that works wonders abroad, but to see foreigners praising Norway is absurd to me.
Thank you for filming this video. I sent it to a bunch of my friends in other countries :)
Granted Ive never left the US, but here electric cars are still very much a minority. They are also often a lot more expensive, at least compared to sedans.
Nope, we don't. Not even close. Norway is one of the most advanced countries in the world in EVs and general sustainability.
Yay for Norway!! 🎉
This is beautiful and so perfect. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and the wife. Have great one🍺
This is so beautiful and hope more of the world adopts Norway’s mission and policies.
Nicely done Micah! Great video and look at the future of transportation
Glad you liked it!
It's amazing what Norway has achieved even compared to other European countries, and more so due to the cold. Here in the UK things are slowly changing but the government isn't doing enough and have even removed subsidies for EVs just as people have started buying them. In my city we will be getting some electric buses next year, and all new cars will go ev in 2035 assuming although I expect massive objections as it gets nearer. A lot of people here believe everything they read in the tabloids, so I think progress will unfortunately remain slow. I've been using an ebike for nearly 2 years and have enjoyed it a lot, it still surprises and annoys me how much anti cycling attitude I come across, although I feel things are slowly improving. Keep up the good videos guys 👍
Norway seems nice and reminds me of snow, great experience!
I too think that electric cars/trucks are just a stepping stone in the path back to walking/biking and mass transit. Is their landscaping equipment electric or ICE? Great video. Thanks
And working form home definitely will also help.
Once again, I love your content and where this is going with sustainable transportation. EV Hummers are not the answer. Obviously a spread out population like in rural US will have a hard time with public transportation, but we can at least get started in the cities.
Well, your example of the snowmobile highlights the limitation in the Powersports sector until the battery form factor becomes more energy dense and weighs less to be practical. Otherwise, I am all for going electric. But overall in Europe, there is a totally different culture compared to us.
Hi Micah- Great video! Hats off to Norway for leading the way on how sustainability can work. Such a beautiful place. My wife and I are planning our trip to Norway next July. I'm excited to see the beautiful Fjords and experience all Norway offers (including EVs, bikes, and scooters ;) ). I'm waiting on my Fisker Ocean and can't wait to do my part in contributing to sustainability. One question, though... Did your Reindeer fly...LOL Again, great reporting, videography, and photography! Happy 2023!
Happy to hear you're coming here, but please don't use the fjord cruises as they fill the valleys with diesel smoke and doesn't support the local economy there. renting a car, even an ICE and exploring on your own is so much better IMO :)
@@Sondretheman71 thanks for that great information! We were planning to explore on our own and take advantage of using electric vehicles and hiking!
Norway is gorgeous
Well done. Nice video
Thanks, Darren!
Wow , that is amazing , especially seeing boats and commercial vehicles being used even in the colder climates. What about the snow removal vehicles , have they been converted to electric , very impressive to see. Thanks for sharing this video 🙏👊🍻
Snowremoval vehicles are still Diesel and probably will be have to be worn out first before any electric equipment comes, but excavators, big tipper trucks is something I have seen in traffic, along with busses and delivery cars as shown in the clip. There's a massive snow dump over southern Norway today for the 3rd day. I did see some electric busses having issues on TV.
It's going to take well over a decade before the fossil stuff dies out, unless it's my 26 year old corolla... which still needs time.
@@snoozieboi yeah I believe your right , I mean the biggest means of transportation ie , train, transport trucks and airplanes and boats would be hard to be electric , it's amazing though how far battery tech and equipment has come though , I am amazed at how powerful and effective my battery operated ego snow blower is , plus the lawnmower , I've changed my yard equipment all over to battery , it's been 5 plus years , love it , thanks again for the great guy , was interesting to see , have a great day 👊🍻
@@brianb1179 One huge advantage with electric diggers and excavactors and the trucks that move stuff is that the work becomes so much more silent. So if you live not far from a place where they do work that require big machinery it suddenly becomes a lot more livable without all the noise.
Nice! Love Norway a great country to visit 😊
Great video and content, thanks!
Great video! I recommend you travel to China next for an in depth look at their efforts to go electric.
Great overview Micah! What is the average electric car range there in the subfreezing temperatures?
Its not a problem - we buy the biggest powerpacket for every car.
Well done!
What about the Congolese children mining the metals for these EV batteries?
Not a pickup truck in sight!!!
It's a miracle they're still able to buy groceries...
Pickup trucks are pointless unless you are a farmer ;-)
Very cool country 👍🏽
All powered by Norway's huge oil and gas profits 👍
Norways oil and gas profits is a drop in the bucket to for instance USA's oil and gas profits :)
The irony is that Norway built its prodigious wealth on the back of oil.
Did you go to Alta in Finnmark for the sami experience ?
great video!
Why don't you explain the downfalls of driving electric car in a cold climate it's nice to make a perfect picture of everything we have him up in normal lot for St John and they're not very good
Too Cool !
What's the population in Norway?
I have a great bike, how can I get in touch with you.
Send me a notification when you have finished looking at the brilliant picture of Norway. I have lived all my life in Norway and have had an electric car for 5 years. I have sold it and I am looking for a vehicle that uses diesel or petrol.
I've NEVER frozen as much as I did when I owned the electric car. During winter, you have to save electricity to get where you're going. This means that you cannot use the heating system very much. When you don't use heating, you yourself freeze and your breath condenses as water wapor on the inside of the windows. It is more or less impossible to see when it is fogging over and you have to struggle to wipe away the condensation. On the other side of the window, ice forms on the wipers and ice forms on the headlights as there is no spill heat to warm the window / lights to make the ice melt.
The price of electricity has exploded in the recent years, and the benefits we had from driving "for free" through toll stations are gradually being removed. It is now more expensive to charge the car than to buy petrol for a similar car.
In short about owning an electric car: You get a poorer life/driving quality at a higher price and you have constant range anxiety. So if this is something for you, then be my guest and buy yourself an electric car.
That’s the unfortunate reality behind electric cars, especially in such a cold country. And this guy is ignorant of this, or has an agenda.
@@nialtubby That guy wrote that during the energy crisis set forth by Russia when they attacked Ukraine. The prices are much cheaper now and if you charge at home it costs a fraction of fuel.
If Norway can do this, why not Canada?
What a beautiful amazing place and you got to see the Northern Lights. I don't see how they can make everybody go pure electric in the United States. When the technology gets better I think you will be able to charge it while you're going and not just regenerative braking but maybe I'm wrong? I'd like the book but it's a little late on this video oh well
EVs don't work in winter!!1!!11!!!
Norway: hold my reindeer
Wow you say nothing on how much Norway has lost money bc there was no fee's on EV's and last year they were starting to add registration, and taxes to the owners
That actually makes sense if their goal was to promote public transportation and reduce car ownership
Just like TeslaBjorn, travels all over Norway in the winter, does zero skiing. Argh !
That will happen in the U.S. in like...NEVER...too selfish people...corrupt politicians!!!
I wonder how the ev batteries out there hold up in a country that's cold alot of the year
For electric cars with battery heaters it’s no problem but a cold battery pack has reduced output both in power and durability.
That’s why we have the worlds biggest wintertest’s of electric cars. And it tests both driving and charging.
Example: the Hyundai Ioniq 5 has very fast dc charging when hot, but in winter the charging time can be three to four times longer. That’s a problem for someone who wants to go for a long trip in the cold.
See the above comment. Guy says he sold his electric car. Froze in it.
Ice formed. And electricity now Is so expensive that it’s cheaper to run a petrol car.
Electric cars are about enslaving us into 15 minute cities
HI, great video. Show's what is possible. Though it's worth noting that a lot of this was paid for with revenues from North Sea oil and gas(which other european countries didn't use wisely - looking at us the UK here) and some high taxes - not to denigrate what's been done but should be pointed out.
Unfortunately, that is true. However, it's from a different time when everyone were into oil consumption. Today, in Norway, there's a significant political opposition against opening new oil fields, and focus on sustainable options instead.
Great ending about personal vehicles being unsustainable and the end goal being shared electric public transit and micromobility.
It raises the question. Is promoting EVs helping or massively hurting their effort for the end goal. Condition people to invest big money and attention on EV cars only to wish people would stop using them as quickly as they adopted them is counterintuitive to me, and given the large emissions penalties of building out a national fleet of EV and charging infrastructure, it may prove to be the wrong way to move people to the truly sustainable goal.
Not too bright are you? This really is one step at a time! Now tell me how far along is the STATES???
Your looks better with your glasses 😜
Great video! Definitely proves that it can be done if there is the political will! We need to make that transition here in the US!
I thought that ev's are no good in the deep cold?
Says who?
@@tanzesambamitmir Everybody. Makes sense, batteries don't do well in extreme weather, hot or cold. I used to live in the north and had battery issues in the winter, now I live in the deep south and hot weather shortens battery life as well.
In my opinion EV's are far more comfortable in the cold. Instant heat. Prewarming. I drive a Tesla Model 3 LR - and it's probably the best "winter-car" i have had. And I have had many ICE 4wd's. Amazing traction and generally great to drive in the snow. The battery capasity does take a (small) hit when it's very cold - and the increased resistancy on the roads due to snow and general harsher weather conditions obviously adds to drain the battery faster. During the most taxing conditions we see an increase of approx. 30% energy usage - maybe even a little more when the temperature drops lower than minus 20 celcius - but thats fortunately rare. But most driving (for most people) is not those long cross country trips where you need all that extra battery capasity. Every morning I wake up to a full battery (I charge to 80%). When I return from work and shopping - in wintertime at below 0 Celcius even down to minus 20 C - it still remains 50-60%+ depending on how much I have used the car. And I do work in a different city approx 25 minutes highway drive (@110 km/h) from where I reside. We regulary pack the car with snowboards and skiing equipment and travel to the mountains - 250 km / 3,5 hours drive in all kinds of weather conditions - and we have never had to charge along the road - and the battery has always been above 20% reaching our destination - high up in the mountains where the last stretch can be quite challenging with steep mountainroads (gravelroads - but with tons of snow on top!) Only risk is that the Model 3 is quite low, so there is limits to how deep the snow can be before we depend on proper snow clearing/removal - it has not been a problem so far though. I honestly love the car and will never go back to ICE, unless some really crazy happens and we have no choice. EV = No more frozen fingers at the gas-pump!
@@Trapisto interesting. A Norwegian guy commented he had to sell his ev as he froze in it. And electricity now is so expensive there it’s counter productive.
I’m guesssing teslas are a different breed compared to the average ev.
You need an EV with enough battery power to heat yourself in the winter
Norway uses 33 times less energy than the US I think.
Very few countries have the ability to produce 95% hydro power Norway is also one of the richest nations on the planet so this is more of a dream than a reality for most countries even if the have the best intensions.
Well most european countries are doing it
@@jonasweber9408 And now we just have to figure out how to produce the power in a sustainable way. And if people think wind and solar will do it they need to read more on how electricity on a large scale is produced with massive turbines to maintain the grid frequency. Solar and wind is a good complement, nothing more in the northern parts of the world.
@@Henrik.A Yes and in a time we have to go nuclear europeans are ditching it...
All very well promoting how well the uptake in battery vehicles has been in Norway but the population is minuscule so in real terms the number of new EVs being bought by Norwegians is small since the population is only 5.4 million compared to 67 million people here in the uk and over 33 million cars on uk roads
Diesel cars still account for 39.7% in Norway
Petrol 29.8%
Hybrid 5.1%
Plug in hybrid 6.6%
Pure Electric 18.9%
@@stevensmith662 I think it's more of a representative lab
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Replace cars? Hell no. Yes so much going on about how amazing electric is and yet don't speak the negatives. No I don't want Public transport and no I don't want to limit where and when I go and nope don't want to only charge at home and I want to be able to go from 0 to full in 2 minutes if necessary. Can't have that, then no it's not superior to ICE just another good option for some people. However using Norway with a population of less then most US states isn't some ingenious way to convince those who want nothing to do with electric vehicles. They should only be a choice, try to mandate them and whoever wants that can go get bent. Oh and I like hearing and many other do as well the sound of a vehicle.
Emission-free? It's the electric vehicle con.
Look at ALL the rare earth materials that are mined, and every single lithium battery needs cobalt.
I'm not against EVs but let's at least have an honest conversation....
What does rare earth materials have to do with being emission free? Who says mining rare earth minerals can't be done electric? The future is what we want it to be, you help decide that with your vote, by choosing what you spend your money on and with feedback.
You should stop saying zero emissions or emissions free, that's just wrong. How do you think the vehicles are made? The mines for the resources etc...EVs are part of the solution not "the" solution.
What makes you think that cannot be done using electricity. There is already a shift to electric heavy vehicles like excavators in Norway (Its really nice because they are so silent it doesn't bother people living nearby as much). Nothing happens all at once, you got to go in steps.
propaganda
Norway has made major advances in EV's and adopting sustainable solutions. Unfortunately in the US, the progress is slow thanks to corrupt politicians who are bought by the dirty fossil fuel industry.
EXACTLY! States can't get anything done because of GREED and power...
Norway, expensive and cold... your "range" of enjoyment my vary..
No thank you.